WTF were cops driving Mini Metros for back then???????????? "Being a much more powerful car I lost him down Priory Drive." Er, well, no surprises there. Those cars were a shocking embarassment!
Actually the a series ones like in the crime watch were good cars. You are mixing it up with the k series metro which was a heap. They were also very nippy and just as quick as run of the mill cars back then be they golf's astras escorts.
@@noongourfain A shell suit was fitness wear of the late 80's veey early 90's . Consisted of trousers and jacket. Polyester , brightest colours bordering on hideous. One came into my possession, it was too small for me plus I would never have worn it whatever the occasion . I gave it to my friend Tony 'the lip ' Stevens ( RIP ) . He proudly posed / ponced around in it for months . Bright pastel colours , simply awful, so much so I actually felt guilty gifting it to him . .
From the comments, it seems the baby dumped at the rubbish tip was never identified. You would hope that the enormous progress in DNA technology since 1990 might yet reveal his identity.
@@tristanmorgan852Given it was 1990, I'm certain they would have a DNA profile on record, and perhaps genetic genealogy might eventually provide his name.
About the jolly farmer pub, the only motive they could think was insurance fraud, but the inquiry went nowhere. An appeal was also made on crime month on lwt, let’s hope that surfaced.
Was just thinking if the car in the Laurence Winstanley case had been kept rather than the police allowing it to be scrapped, it could have yielded further clues with the advance of forensic science. Why would whoever killed him want to dispose of the car like that if it did not have something to tell the police.? I was also thinking it would not surprise me if drugs was a factor in this man’s death as it appears from the nature of the violence used on him he had upset someone in the criminal underworld.
Just reading up on it more, the police felt it was definitely a gangland "execution". There's an article on the Daily Mirror website saying they believe he may have been killed by a notorious hitman who's wanted in a number of countries. Can't remember where I read it, but someone said that he had been involved in hiding drugs in car frames for local gangsters and it had all gone wrong.
So many features of these crimes just couldn't really happen now. If someone was ramming a car, the passenger would have called the police and videoed it on their phones / dash cams The criminals would have been caught on a million CCTV cameras.
If you take someone’s life and it’s not accidental or in self defense you should get a long prison sentence. Never less than 20 years. You’ve destroyed the life of the victim and their family, so you should not just serve a few years and then go on and live your life in comfort.
An early 90s reconstruction that has always stuck in my mind since it aired was a bogus policeman who I think abducted a woman. It's very misty but It'll be interestesting to see it again as I remember getting nightmares about it as I was really into all things police as a boy lol even had a toy police peddle car.
I remember the 90s bruv . The villains were proper fellas! It was a crazy time of drugs , banging ya mates bird as he lay asleep downstairs over the balcony while fondling her breasts 😖. Bruv , it was a time where selfish horribleness was proper
Thanks redcard :) Can anyone remember the year/month there was a recon of the murder of an elderly person in which a note was left on the victim's door for a short time saying they had gone on holiday, various people went to the door which was ajar at times but the crime wasn't discovered for some time? Thanks in advance!
Apparently was involved in the import of MDMA and had bought a batch he was refusing to pay for due to the pills been gash. That was the local speculation anyway
There's an interesting article on the daily mirror website about it. Seems he was heavily involved in drugs and got on the wrong side of organiser crime. The article says they believe he was killed by a now notorious hitman who's wanted in several countries.
From what I've read, the police have a very good idea who killed him and why. There's an article on the daily mirror website saying they believe he was the early victim of a man who went in to become a notorious international hitman for organised crime. This man is also said to be an informant to the security services.
Lots of cash, missing periods of time, mysterious phone calls & the way he was murdered points to the drug trade. Either he ripped off the wrong person or messed up a consignment-his car business could have been used to transport them.
@@Oceanbeauty825 It is kinda' disturbing. If you watch a lot of these shows many cases still unsolved. I think it was a bit easier to get away with murder back then.
That first bank robber bloke where his height was estimated 5’5 to 5’9, even 30 years ago it would have been simple to use the cctv to get an exact height
22:40 Yeah I can see it right now, it's parked outside my house, there's a lady in a huge mustard yellow coat talking to one of them fancy telly cameras!
You will get some nutter come along shortly and tell you she was murdered as she was going to expose a paedophile ring within the BBC Her death was very sad - hopefully the killer gets caught soon
@@chriswaddle4784 her career began as a reporter in her home town of Weston super mare . I would have thought she would have retained that curious investigative nature until her sad demise . She was certainly nobody's fool .
I also remember the brown Cortina pulling away from the police metro and the officer commenting the offender’s car being much more powerful than his own.
See, told you. A crime scene in the 1980s wasn't complete without a Cortina involved somewhere. And a lovely Mk4 example there, the rarest of all Cortinas nowadays (for those that care lol)
I was 5 when this was first aired......it's nostalgic and interesting to see what was going on when I was a nipper. Reminds me of home with the parents. Also I wonder if they discovered what Lawrence's secret life was?
They pretty much know what happened to Lawrence now. It seems he was heavily involved in drugs and had got on the wrong side of organised crime. They believe he was killed in a contract killing. There's an article on the daily mirror website which said the man they believe did it went on to become a notorious hitman for international criminals and is wanted in several countries. They also believe he's an informant to various security services so may be being protected.
Laurence Winstanley... Did he owe money? He was shot in the head. How did the killers get hold of his car and why did they take his car to the scrapyard?
Crime is “rare” than we should imagine - not true, tell that to the rare victims see if they’d think your reasoning is of sound judgment!!! I still enjoy CW UK though!
21.12 - well if he has had reg plates made up they could start looking for someone with the initials n.m.p. and date of birth 20th september. MP was a middlesex suffix.
There were a lot better looking women about back then, even in the North. A posh accent and on tv, people get carried away. Never understood the Jacqui Haynes appeal.
I'm taking it you weren't around in 1990? She's not wearing anything there that wasn't out of the normal in 1990. All that happens is that fashion is circular. What's popular now is essentially retro 1990s.
This show scared the crap out of me as a kid, now I can't stop watching it.
Me too 😂
After showing an hour of all these lunatics that are on the loose he has the nerve to say "don't have nightmares"
It still scares the crap out of me 😢
Me to always went around double checking windows and doors.
haaaaaa
Same here!!
I like the way they always put the right music on for whatever date it was, like Nothing Can Divide Us by Jason Donovan in October 1988.
Haa ha good one that's hilarious 😂👍
I suspect it's part of their ploy to trigger people's memories, music does have a tremendous power to evoke memories of times and places.
@@Compleme_Cunm Absolutely.
Him singing is a crime in itself
… and ‘Not tonight, Kylie, I’ve had one too many lager shandies’
Evening crimewatchers! Welcome to the 90’s 🙌🏻🙌🏻
jnicemint But it was the 1990s. 🙄
@jnicemint Well, most of the cases on this show would have related to the 1980s, to state the obvious.
Evening! X
@@nicolar6461 evening ! Sorry it’s late 😂 x
i miss the 90's, it was my best years
And to think there are a lot of murderers from the 80s and 90s who have served their time and potentially walking amongst us
And could be watching!
Interstat And commenting! 😮
Scary thought
David Drysdale how true ,spooky👿Ms cardiff
@@interstat2222 And reading.. booohooo..
How did he keep a straight face saying, "the Vicar suddenly produced a sawn-off shotgun".
Unintentional, perhaps, but he displayed the comic timing and delivery of a genius
@@Compleme_CunmWere the I.d. sketches done by a five year-old?
@@LANCSKID Think so, the only one who had graduated from crayons to pencil in their class.
Being an expat I hadn't seen this show in 20 years, thanks for the uploads redcard! Going to binge watch
The photo-fits on Crimewatch are unintentionally funny.
Thx redcard crime watch on a dark rainy night😃
WTF were cops driving Mini Metros for back then???????????? "Being a much more powerful car I lost him down Priory Drive." Er, well, no surprises there. Those cars were a shocking embarassment!
Actually the a series ones like in the crime watch were good cars. You are mixing it up with the k series metro which was a heap. They were also very nippy and just as quick as run of the mill cars back then be they golf's astras escorts.
Intended for urban crimes. Quite handy for getting through traffic more easily
Love how one of the robbers has a scorpion tattooed on his neck. Great way to blend in and not get caught! Also indicative of wise life choices.🙄
He’s on Facebook
@@ray131262😳 was he caught?
@@skylarblacc1660 don’t know
@@skylarblacc1660yes he was with another fella called raiden
They say tattoos are often indicative of psychological problems
Thank you Redcard, i look forward to watching these every night.
Sue Cook is looking rather splendid in this episode
The thinking mans crumpet
Cookie 🍪 jar
Cookie 🍪 jar
Goodbye mister Columbus
Hot Cookie.
Just got my shell suit on about to click play! 🤟
hahhahhahaaaa :D good one
What's a shell suit? If you don't mind me asking.
I think I guessed! Are you a pearly? Just tell me.
@@noongourfain A shell suit was fitness wear of the late 80's veey early 90's . Consisted of trousers and jacket. Polyester , brightest colours bordering on hideous. One came into my possession, it was too small for me plus I would never have worn it whatever the occasion . I gave it to my friend Tony 'the lip ' Stevens ( RIP ) . He proudly posed / ponced around in it for months . Bright pastel colours , simply awful, so much so I actually felt guilty gifting it to him .
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@@johnniethepom2905 LOL thanks for that! Tell me how did the pants resolve themselves at the bottom? And did the jacket have a hood?
What a joke having a metro as a police car
Lol, ikr. No chance in that thing.
Pinacle of british engineering
Even Regan in Sweeney had a better car in 1970's....
I don’t know why he didn’t signal for him to pullover.
They were small, nimble, and like small rally cars getting round corners, i’d say chasing after big heavy cars, they were the perfect fit.
And into the decade I was born 💪🏽 big up Redcard thanks for all these episodes
Well I feel old now hehe
Watch it at lunchtime with the rest of the slackers and unemployed.
Who cares what decade you were born?
@@zeddeka I do... which is the only thing that matters 👍🏾
@@zeddekaI care! There are actually human people behind these comments you know, so it's nice to not be horrible to them sometimes 🙂
OMG the young child aged one years old found on a tip :( does anyone know if anyone found out who he was? rip little man .
Still unknown and unsolved in 2019
No, I'm in Millom, still unsolved
From the comments, it seems the baby dumped at the rubbish tip was never identified. You would hope that the enormous progress in DNA technology since 1990 might yet reveal his identity.
Would they have kept the samples or would there need to examine the body again? It's very sad
@@tristanmorgan852Given it was 1990, I'm certain they would have a DNA profile on record, and perhaps genetic genealogy might eventually provide his name.
😥
Harrowing indeed
H Samuel sold Rolexes!!!! wtff
Good old David Hatcher. Unless the word ‘mustosche’ is in the script, he seems to be so flustered!!!
He fluffs his lines in every single episode haha, i'm always waiting for it
25:47 THOR was a rapist??!!
The days where you could park directly outside a pub and pop in for a pint 3:00
Fellow Crimewatcher's, good evening.
Why on earth did they scrap Laurence's car?
Yes, forensic evidence destroyed. Crazy.
It wouldn’t be known when the car that was taken to the scrap yard that Laurence was missing
@@09weenic the episode says the cops checked it before it was scrapped. Imagine no one else wanted to do it up
it wasn't a murder enquiry yet.
Probably because someone gave them a brown envelope full of cash
About the jolly farmer pub, the only motive they could think was insurance fraud, but the inquiry went nowhere. An appeal was also made on crime month on lwt, let’s hope that surfaced.
Happy Friday everyone! 🕵🏻♀️
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try getting away from me in this you mutha......lol
Hello
Happy Saturday Compton!
@ It was Friday when I wrote that 2 years ago.
Happy Monday Compton!
Was just thinking if the car in the Laurence Winstanley case had been kept rather than the police allowing it to be scrapped, it could have yielded further clues with the advance of forensic science. Why would whoever killed him want to dispose of the car like that if it did not have something to tell the police.?
I was also thinking it would not surprise me if drugs was a factor in this man’s death as it appears from the nature of the violence used on him he had upset someone in the criminal underworld.
I assume purely because the cops were going to be looking for it.
i thought that perhaps he had been leaned on to do resprays/false reg. nos. etc., for criminals but had refused or knew too much.
More likely stolen cars.
Just reading up on it more, the police felt it was definitely a gangland "execution". There's an article on the Daily Mirror website saying they believe he may have been killed by a notorious hitman who's wanted in a number of countries. Can't remember where I read it, but someone said that he had been involved in hiding drugs in car frames for local gangsters and it had all gone wrong.
So many features of these crimes just couldn't really happen now. If someone was ramming a car, the passenger would have called the police and videoed it on their phones / dash cams The criminals would have been caught on a million CCTV cameras.
This is why this country started using so much cctv in the first place, it was not a safe place
If you take someone’s life and it’s not accidental or in self defense you should get a long prison sentence. Never less than 20 years. You’ve destroyed the life of the victim and their family, so you should not just serve a few years and then go on and live your life in comfort.
Again,many thanks for the upload and my nightly fix...
Brilliant. Been looking forward to this.
An early 90s reconstruction that has always stuck in my mind since it aired was a bogus policeman who I think abducted a woman. It's very misty but It'll be interestesting to see it again as I remember getting nightmares about it as I was really into all things police as a boy lol even had a toy police peddle car.
Wayne Couzins just did the same thing in 2021, but this can't be the one you saw, as it was thirty years ago.
Always listen to your mother..dont flash your cash!
Rip to the poor baby 🙏 xx
I remember the 90s bruv . The villains were proper fellas! It was a crazy time of drugs , banging ya mates bird as he lay asleep downstairs over the balcony while fondling her breasts 😖. Bruv , it was a time where selfish horribleness was proper
I'm from Millom where the baby on the tip was found. .. It's now 2021 and it's still unsolved
My naturist club,Lakeland outdoor is in millom, nowadays I think we're the tip was is toilets and rugby club and cafe now,. Sad case that was.
Fantastic !!! my Friday fix some retro crimewatch .
Those girls are probably in their 50's now
First evening Crimewatch UK viewers 👍😁
love these old crimewatch i only allow myself 1 show a week as dont want to end lol
Thanks redcard :) Can anyone remember the year/month there was a recon of the murder of an elderly person in which a note was left on the victim's door for a short time saying they had gone on holiday, various people went to the door which was ajar at times but the crime wasn't discovered for some time? Thanks in advance!
Cat L That was January 1989, the murder of Harry Howell.
thank you! It felt like ages since I'd watched it so I was searching through much earlier episodes.
30 years plus later and we are still fixated with true crime. Now via netflix.
And UA-cam obviously ;)
12.50am, the rain hitting the window. Let's see if I can make it to the end lol
They're worth watching for the photo fits alone! Haha
Yes, thankfully no longer drawn by five year-olds.
Best part of the day. Feet up, e cig, kid sleeping. Crimewatch
And a beer.
@@1977Futre correct!
Lawrences murder still not been solved even now in 2018.
Highly suspected he was involved in drugs and up to his neck in debt with it
J C I think the detective on the show knew Laurence Winstanely’s dodgy background but didn’t want to specifically say . Very sad case though
Apparently was involved in the import of MDMA and had bought a batch he was refusing to pay for due to the pills been gash. That was the local speculation anyway
@@robdean704did any names circulate?
There's an interesting article on the daily mirror website about it. Seems he was heavily involved in drugs and got on the wrong side of organiser crime. The article says they believe he was killed by a now notorious hitman who's wanted in several countries.
Advancements in forensics. Scrapping Winstanley's car was a bad move.
From what I've read, the police have a very good idea who killed him and why. There's an article on the daily mirror website saying they believe he was the early victim of a man who went in to become a notorious international hitman for organised crime. This man is also said to be an informant to the security services.
The first case ... is so sad ..
Aye, Laurence Winstanley's murder is still unsolved.
He was brutally murdered, was most likely drugs related.
just a young lad too :(
+BlytheWorld1972 I don't think it was drugs more like a affair cos on the night 2 women ring up saying there know way he was killed
Lots of cash, missing periods of time, mysterious phone calls & the way he was murdered points to the drug trade. Either he ripped off the wrong person or messed up a consignment-his car business could have been used to transport them.
Evening all.. Brilliant again redcard74
Happy New Year / decade fellow CW fans! 🎉 Hope you all got door chains and everything you wanted for the holiday...
I want to find out what happened with Lawrence Winstanley.
Same here. Just had a look on Google and it seems the case is still unsolved.
@@Oceanbeauty825 It is kinda' disturbing. If you watch a lot of these shows many cases still unsolved. I think it was a bit easier to get away with murder back then.
What a joke having a metro for a police car.
Even Regan had a better car in 1970's in The Sweeney 😂
You’d need something a bit tasty in case you need to chase someone!
@@Lushgirl81 for chasing people, small and nimble cars are better
Now they have rainbow cars
The woman in the jewellery reconstruction was in the Jean Bradley case
That first bank robber bloke where his height was estimated 5’5 to 5’9, even 30 years ago it would have been simple to use the cctv to get an exact height
22:40 Yeah I can see it right now, it's parked outside my house, there's a lady in a huge mustard yellow coat talking to one of them fancy telly cameras!
wow, some many fascinating cases.
Fiat Strada cabriolet very nice car rare as hens teeth now
Jheez the photo fit of that creep trying 2 abduct the girls.. I'm about to have nightmares!!
the girl on her way back to school in leyland was my brothers girlfriend at the time
I’m sure nick will reassure you
@@danmccauley80 Was he caught?
@@johnrollins8346 no unfortunately he never was
Brilliant! Thanks Redcard.
Sue looks nice in her purple jumper luv her Posh voice wonderful Sue
A very fine woman, indeed.
Sigh I hate these sex offenders
evening all time for crimewatch 1990 now
Evening all!
Who would have thought Jill Dando would have been a victm of this show such a brillent reporter
You will get some nutter come along shortly and tell you she was murdered as she was going to expose a paedophile ring within the BBC
Her death was very sad - hopefully the killer gets caught soon
She wasn't a reporter, she was a presenter.
@@chriswaddle4784 her career began as a reporter in her home town of Weston super mare . I would have thought she would have retained that curious investigative nature until her sad demise . She was certainly nobody's fool .
I also remember the brown Cortina pulling away from the police metro and the officer commenting the offender’s car being much more powerful than his own.
See, told you. A crime scene in the 1980s wasn't complete without a Cortina involved somewhere. And a lovely Mk4 example there, the rarest of all Cortinas nowadays (for those that care lol)
Back in the good old days when police cars were shite & cop shops stayed open all night-rather than closing at dinnertime.
I think we're close to the karen price reconstruction episode
I was 5 when this was first aired......it's nostalgic and interesting to see what was going on when I was a nipper. Reminds me of home with the parents.
Also I wonder if they discovered what Lawrence's secret life was?
They pretty much know what happened to Lawrence now. It seems he was heavily involved in drugs and had got on the wrong side of organised crime. They believe he was killed in a contract killing. There's an article on the daily mirror website which said the man they believe did it went on to become a notorious hitman for international criminals and is wanted in several countries. They also believe he's an informant to various security services so may be being protected.
Drugs always take you down literally someday rather sooner than later
Laurence Winstanley... Did he owe money? He was shot in the head. How did the killers get hold of his car and why did they take his car to the scrapyard?
It seems he was somehow involved in drugs, and that it was a contract killing
They made a tiny Fiat into a cabriolet ! Waaah !
Hey CrimeWatchers how are you? Xx
All good here thanks, how's u?
Radiant, Sir, radiant. 🤵♂️
Stepping in to my CWUK era now. Scary days ahead.....
Rachel Nickell, Stephanie Slater, Stephen Lawrence, Colin Ireland, Claire Tiltman.
Also getting close to a new face on the show. www.policeoracle.com/news/files/file274.jpg
Year I was born, like the look of England in this era 👍🇬🇧
Shame about the 1 year old who lost his life on a rubbish tip. RIP little man
Who cares what year you were born? Why do you feel the need to tell us? As someone who lived through that era, it was fairly grim in many ways.
@@zeddeka why so harsh only my opinion
That’s not the flag of England, that’s the flag of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧. England’s flag is 🏴
@@09weenic I know that I tried to put an England flag in the comment but for some reason wasn't on there.
5 months till im born lol
your kicking!
Scrapping the car was MORONIC
Everyone knows who killed him Lawrence winstanley same person who killed graeme boardman in Spain
We know it’s probably the same person but no name is public… do you know?
@@craigtitusfitness2249 there's an article on the daily mirror website about it. Quick to Google.
Crime is “rare” than we should imagine - not true, tell that to the rare victims see if they’d think your reasoning is of sound judgment!!! I still enjoy CW UK though!
I'm lovin it Friday nite in sorted
Love your pp gave you a 👍👍up
Gutted I think I've watch them all.
Watch them again...😊
24:58-sounds like somebody has a whip.
i heard that!, a cooper is getting spanked
Pretty sure I've seen that vicar on King of The Hill
I’d slap that lady robber into a spell if she tried to hold that pea shooter on me.
The drums!
Bit o Jason Donovan n the Hollies
No, thanks.
bring on the 90s
1990 looking like 1980
ed wright I agree!!
The country was pretty grim up until the late 90s. Grey, post industrial, quite desolate.
@@zeddeka the north west pretty much still the same 😂
those were the thatcher years.
@@zeddeka but better in a way without the internet and phones
Metro was like a goose fart in the wind compared to the ripper of the Granada
25:37 looks like ron perlman in beauty and the beast
21.12 - well if he has had reg plates made up they could start looking for someone with the initials n.m.p. and date of birth 20th september. MP was a middlesex suffix.
sue was some looker😊
Fox
Average at best
@@jamiemccabe6322 aye Jacqui Haynes was much tidier
@@09weenic hames
There were a lot better looking women about back then, even in the North. A posh accent and on tv, people get carried away. Never understood the Jacqui Haynes appeal.
Anyone rember the old lady attacked in a country road from behind witness by farmers in tractor
Did the female bank robber ever get found?
Woweeree Sue.. 😮😮
Laurence whinstanley still unsolved
i had a white astra sri just like that
Wot an it never got nicked and burnt oout. 🇬🇧👍😁
@@andrewdaley3081 no :)
The fashion sense of the robber at 39:30 was 30 years ahead of its time. In 1990 she will have looked quite conspicuous, in 2020 not so much!
Alberto facemask though.... proves its a conspiracy 😁
I'm taking it you weren't around in 1990? She's not wearing anything there that wasn't out of the normal in 1990. All that happens is that fashion is circular. What's popular now is essentially retro 1990s.
Did they ever catch the man in the car?
no the girl he tried to abduct in leyland was my brothers girlfriend at the time
@@danmccauley80 Awful that he wasn't caught.
@@ajs41 I reckon if that police car in the chase wasn't a shitty metro then this outcome could have been very different
They always had the right ethnicity
Nonces mostly white, all others mostly black and brown
Evidence gone there..
Mustosh…….will he ever pronounce it correctly 😂
30:05 sorry i laughed. "The vicar produced a sawed off shotgun,and threatened the couple."
25:40 😂😂😂😂
Raoul Moult before he transitioned.
THOR and his giant Hammer...🤨
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