AvP is soo underappreciated. The practical effects in a CGI generation were effective. The pacing is solid and has somewhat of a Jurassic Park vibe in the first act. Many comic references were brought to life without copying the exact story of the original source material. Set peices were consistent and fun to look at. Characters served their purpose without being annoying. Scar was the coolest predator and I loved the team up with Alexa because it reveals how complex Youtja can be. Predator movies always depict human carnage as the predators' achievement but this movie took a chance on something different and I happened to love it.
I was born in the late 80s and was raised on the Aliens and Predator movies and comics. I was absolutely pumped for AVP and it was the first time I’d ever followed the production of a movie. It was definitely disappointing, but not as bad as some made it out to be.
@@jalenikezeue4114 I think AVPR had the best Predator since the og. The characters were really terrible and they filmed it way too dark to see what was going on.
AVP on the PlayStation 3 is a criminally underrated and overlooked game. The first AVP was disappointing, but I'd rather rewatch than any recent Alien or Predator film.
GREAT vídeo. I think personally that AvP doesn't get enough praise & recognition. Starting with the historical success of the DARK HORSE breakthtough comic book series.
I've never understood the hate AvP the movie got from some fans, its bloody great!! It's my third favourite Predator movie behind Predator and Predator 2 and my third favourite Aliens movie behind Alien and Aliens. It also shows how back then they did 'strong women' the right way. No men were put down by Lexa and the guys hold their own, even the bad ones. It's so weird how days politics in Hollywood want more diversity and strong female representation and yet ... well, they've always had that as shown by this movie and a ton of others
Great movie IMO, my brother and I would play this but in the arcade rooms at we just didn’t know this was from those movies we were like 7 and 8 yrs old, man good memories, awesome breakdown on stepping of the blood we wouldn’t know why we died in the game, now I know 😅
The comics & games were MASTERPIECES, then Paul "franchise killer" Anderson said "Nope, its been too good for too long." Then put it down like a sick pet. Then fox said "Hey lets make sure they NEVER ask for another movie!" (Just do a movie based on the comics and have the colonel marines)
Although I liked the movie at the time, I still didn't love it. I had read the Noguchi AvP novel and found it to have many parallels, the book was better. Most of the characters were bland as you said, Sanaa Lathan wasn't super charismatic but I still liked her. I hated the beefy and immobile Predators. The oversized wrist blades and shoulder cannons were also goofy. The one idea that I LOVED was Grid. It gave the Aliens personality rather than them just being instinctive drones. Grid wanted revenge.
I hope and pray that FOX makes a reboot of the movie taking place 20 light years from Earth on an unknown planet in orbit around a star in the constellation of Orion.
Didn’t care for it when it came out…. Thought it was meh…. And no violence was a turn off…. Grown to appreciate the production design, I like the extended version which does a little more “characterization”
the dude doesnt even know what he wants out of his own alien franchise or terminator, so much so that the prequel alien movies are now non cannon.thank god they got scrapped. the mf also killed off john connor in the dumbest way as well
I liked the first, if it was my trilogy, part 2 would be about the hybrid on the ship while it on autopilot heading home. It would fight and takeover the ship during the movie and making even more alien hybrids. Part 3 would be the shipful of alien hybrids landing on the predators homeworld for the massive final war.
I’m sorry, but how did the beginning of aliens versus predator Requiem negate the ending of the last film? It literally starts right up where the last film left off and continues onward.
I never had a problem.with AVP other than the pg-13 pull but otherwise i felt it was more by the books to the point and as far as the "cardboad" characters wats the draw? The fight between the aliens and the predator aliens there was really no need for character development thats not the draw. The critics were ridiculous.
:Fun Fact: They screwed Celtic pred and the preds. And the pg13 was a mistake. The AVP designs (longer dreads and butfer preds were dope. Love Celtic's mask. Glad "Scarface" from "Concrete Jungle" has a similar.
Why do so many people jump on the bandwagon that AVP for the Jaguar is really good? I swear half of the people/youtubers who hype it have never even played the game. It's awful, very simplistic level design which is comparable the original 'Wolfenstein 3d' slow, clunky boring movement and not satisfying to play any character and just running on a crappy game engine. I had a Jag on release and got AVP when it was released. I believed the hype and was very disappointed. Within two evenings Doom was back in the console, and i traded AVP.
I really didn't like AvP when it came out , now I really like it, it has its issues but it's a good fun ride that rips along at a non stop pace. AvPR is just awful , the story and script is unforgivably bad but I may have a better opinion if I could see what looks like some great SFX completely hidden, why is it so damn dark. big fan of most of the games especially the Capcom arcade game
Requiem is better than people give it credit for! One of countless things AvP1 did horribly was the predators looked like rubbish (fat blokes in suits had never been more obvious) and the action was all so cartoony CG esp with the aliens defying all physical logic. Requiem corrects all this with practical fx and actual gore. All those exaggerated claims of it being supposedly too dark are only a few moments and that's it! Of cos the humans all were horrible so they were the one thing that brought Requiem down... not tht you'd go to a AvP film to watch humans anyhow! Action was where Requiem excelled!
thank you, yeah how does it negate AvP ending? it literally takes place right after... and then Wolf has to clean up the mess in Requiem... Sure Requiem has it's "problems" but I think it was a better attemp at an AvP
@@erikarnold6853 basically everyone's problems with the movie come from it being poorly lit. If that was corrected I'm sure it would give the film a new life
We could have had some great AvP movies had they not ruined it be setting them on Earth present day. Dark Horse comics did amazing work with several stories set in the movies universes. They should have set them in the future timeline. I thought the movies were ok, but they were letdowns in a lot of ways.
Can we please get a good Alien/Pred flick in me life? It's gotta not be that hard. But they failed both times. I mean Freddy/Jason worked well enough. You don't need Ripley or Dutch to make it work. Can there even be another great Alien or Predator solo movie in the 21st century? Well Predators was alright, and the independent shorts of both are mostly fine, but the 2 together? Someone PLEASE!
I loved both Aliens & Predator as a kid, but as an adult, I don't think Predator has aged well. I don't think its anywhere near as good as what people say it is. I don't like the creature & find it is too cheesy. Likewise, I also loved the AvP games, but these days they don't hold up. The PC AvP game from 1999/2000 was scary as hell at the time, but playing it today is frustrating. I like to play as the marines, & aliens just mindlessly fly at you very fast & endlessly respawn. It is frustrating when there is no reload button, so you can't reload between action. If you have about 30 rounds or so left, its a waste to just use it all up at nothing just to have a new magazine. I also didn't like how it was a solo experience. You had no marines with you. I remember when AvP 2 was being made, previews would say you were in a squad like in the movies. Boy was I let down when as soon as you enter the facility, it "conveniently" caves in just after you enter. The other contrived situations making you only be solo was also annoying (like everyone being too scared to go & rescue that other marine, or being thrown in prison & have to escape by killing human enemies, which become the only enemy nearly until the rest of the game). AvP 2010 I didn't care for at all. Every marine you met died quickly. There was no squad aspect like the Cameron movie, so it was horribly dated. The first level or two was effective, but once the generic robots that blow up appear it became crap. I actually liked Colonial Marines. It should have been better, but it did get a lot of things right. The look (the blueish hues & designs of things) & sound design captured the feel of Cameron's film, which the AvP games, especially 2010, never bothered to do. The movie environments were perfectly recreated, & I loved having a motion tracker to equip, as opposed to a generic radar (Isolation showed the idea works). I liked being part of a squad, something that the previous games didn't bother to do. I also loved playing as the movie marines in online. While I did like the game, I do NOT like or support what Pitchford & Gearscum did. I have never bought another game from them again. Aliens Dark Descent is also fantastic, & also perfectly captures the ambiance of Cameron's film. I don't think the AvP crossover was a good idea at all. The Alien franchise is vastly superior to the derivative Predator franchise, & they should have stayed separate. These movies, however, are just as brilliant as the originals compared to Ridley Hack's prequel garbage.
I have three problems with the AVP films. First, putting it on Earth in the modern day removes humans as a genuine contender. Second, in the games humans were represented by Marines and were a genuine threat to both creatures. Third, they on-screen killed kids. That turns me WAY off as kids are sacred and untouchable. Offscreen deaths of kids are acceptable, and still plenty disturbing; but kids are not to be shown getting screwed up.
Its a movie i actually don't hate. But its another generic styles anderson flick. Another "Oh i saw the first movies now I'm an expert." Thing. With RE and monster hunter i think he watched 10 minutes of streams and decided he knew everything. The slow start where he tries development and fails mostbof the cast is the same way he failed RE. Only Anderson trope missing is Mila. I think this was before they got married maybe
What I find odd about these movie creatures... is they both had 2 decent movies each... and then a string of complete bilge. They've had more movies that have been total shit than good movies, yet for some reason they've endured. For comparison, Star Wars is the same, 2 decent movies, 1 half decent, and 6 terrible ones and a string of boring TV shows, and after 50 years is finally starting to die off... yet both the Aliens and Predators, after the same time of near 50 years, still have an unwavering fan base.
The moment producers decided for it to take place on Earth, it was so over. So called "creative masterminds" when a story isn't centered on their personal fanfics
AvP is soo underappreciated.
The practical effects in a CGI generation were effective.
The pacing is solid and has somewhat of a Jurassic Park vibe in the first act.
Many comic references were brought to life without copying the exact story of the original source material.
Set peices were consistent and fun to look at.
Characters served their purpose without being annoying.
Scar was the coolest predator and I loved the team up with Alexa because it reveals how complex Youtja can be. Predator movies always depict human carnage as the predators' achievement but this movie took a chance on something different and I happened to love it.
The first AVP was awesome.
Great movie ❤
It was ok
One of the best movies ever made. One of my favorite movies of all time. Watched this as many times as star wars 😂❤
This movie was and is awesome. It did not disappoint in the theater and it’s so much fun on the rewatch.
I was born in the late 80s and was raised on the Aliens and Predator movies and comics. I was absolutely pumped for AVP and it was the first time I’d ever followed the production of a movie. It was definitely disappointing, but not as bad as some made it out to be.
Same.
I totally hated AVP requiem Nobody is gonna care about bunch of teenagers Or an ex-con they just want to see two legendary Monsters Duke It Out
There were some nice-looking Alien and Predator effects but the Human element of the movie was such a letdown.@@jalenikezeue4114
@@jalenikezeue4114 I think AVPR had the best Predator since the og. The characters were really terrible and they filmed it way too dark to see what was going on.
@@lindseykipp191 yeah what was that All about
AVP on the PlayStation 3 is a criminally underrated and overlooked game. The first AVP was disappointing, but I'd rather rewatch than any recent Alien or Predator film.
I was a master at Pred, and couldn'tbe beat, BUT ALIEN WAS unfairly OP!
Ridiculously op
Capcom game Avp
Masterpiece
Avp the capcom arcade game is so underrated. One of the best capcom games ever made, then again I had avp on my Atari jaguar and loved it
GREAT vídeo.
I think personally that AvP doesn't get enough praise & recognition.
Starting with the historical success of the DARK HORSE breakthtough comic book series.
the capcom beat'em up is still one of the best. the Jaguar AVP was pretty cool for its time
Ha! I got me an emulator…. Have a great time playing that Capcom game!
I've never understood the hate AvP the movie got from some fans, its bloody great!! It's my third favourite Predator movie behind Predator and Predator 2 and my third favourite Aliens movie behind Alien and Aliens.
It also shows how back then they did 'strong women' the right way. No men were put down by Lexa and the guys hold their own, even the bad ones. It's so weird how days politics in Hollywood want more diversity and strong female representation and yet ... well, they've always had that as shown by this movie and a ton of others
I feel the same way, I really enjoyed A v P very much, it's one of my favorite in the franchise. But to each his own I guess.
PG13
Great movie IMO, my brother and I would play this but in the arcade rooms at we just didn’t know this was from those movies we were like 7 and 8 yrs old, man good memories, awesome breakdown on stepping of the blood we wouldn’t know why we died in the game, now I know 😅
Glad I got to see this in theaters as a teen. Even though it's goofy, it was a great time and sooo sick haha
I Remember They Played The Trailers And Tv Promos On Alien Vs Predator Non-stop Back In 2004.
1:11 was both my favorite
I thought it was pretty good, and loved the ancient alien conspiracy to make the cross over
AvP for Jaguar was way ahead of it's time.
The comics & games were MASTERPIECES, then Paul "franchise killer" Anderson said "Nope, its been too good for too long." Then put it down like a sick pet. Then fox said "Hey lets make sure they NEVER ask for another movie!"
(Just do a movie based on the comics and have the colonel marines)
The first AVP is good for what it is.
i never thought that the AvP movie was as bad as it's reputation
I always thought this and Requiem were good for what they attempted ❤plus you get to see the original Charles BISHOP Weyland
One of my favorites!
Monolith's AVP2 from 2001 was my fav
Although I liked the movie at the time, I still didn't love it. I had read the Noguchi AvP novel and found it to have many parallels, the book was better. Most of the characters were bland as you said, Sanaa Lathan wasn't super charismatic but I still liked her. I hated the beefy and immobile Predators. The oversized wrist blades and shoulder cannons were also goofy. The one idea that I LOVED was Grid. It gave the Aliens personality rather than them just being instinctive drones. Grid wanted revenge.
My childhood favorite avp game was the side scroller on snes
I hope and pray that FOX makes a reboot of the movie taking place 20 light years from Earth on an unknown planet in orbit around a star in the constellation of Orion.
Didn’t care for it when it came out…. Thought it was meh…. And no violence was a turn off…. Grown to appreciate the production design, I like the extended version which does a little more “characterization”
Dude how do you upload so much so often
It baffles me that Cameron thought avp is a bad concept
the dude doesnt even know what he wants out of his own alien franchise or terminator, so much so that the prequel alien movies are now non cannon.thank god they got scrapped. the mf also killed off john connor in the dumbest way as well
I liked the first, if it was my trilogy, part 2 would be about the hybrid on the ship while it on autopilot heading home. It would fight and takeover the ship during the movie and making even more alien hybrids. Part 3 would be the shipful of alien hybrids landing on the predators homeworld for the massive final war.
CHEECH AND CHONG NEXT PLEASE 🌠
I’m sorry, but how did the beginning of aliens versus predator Requiem negate the ending of the last film? It literally starts right up where the last film left off and continues onward.
Why does some of the footage of Jaguar AVP look so similar to Alien: Trilogy from the PS1 in 1995?
Call me crazy but I didn't hate the movie. Even bought it on dvd.
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I never had a problem.with AVP other than the pg-13 pull but otherwise i felt it was more by the books to the point and as far as the "cardboad" characters wats the draw? The fight between the aliens and the predator aliens there was really no need for character development thats not the draw. The critics were ridiculous.
:Fun Fact: They screwed Celtic pred and the preds. And the pg13 was a mistake.
The AVP designs (longer dreads and butfer preds were dope. Love Celtic's mask. Glad "Scarface" from "Concrete Jungle" has a similar.
Please do a video about AVPR!
Why do so many people jump on the bandwagon that AVP for the Jaguar is really good? I swear half of the people/youtubers who hype it have never even played the game. It's awful, very simplistic level design which is comparable the original 'Wolfenstein 3d' slow, clunky boring movement and not satisfying to play any character and just running on a crappy game engine.
I had a Jag on release and got AVP when it was released. I believed the hype and was very disappointed. Within two evenings Doom was back in the console, and i traded AVP.
Would very much like to see videos on
French Lieutenants Woman
The Omega Man
Near Dark
Please do Escape from new York ❤
I really didn't like AvP when it came out , now I really like it, it has its issues but it's a good fun ride that rips along at a non stop pace. AvPR is just awful , the story and script is unforgivably bad but I may have a better opinion if I could see what looks like some great SFX completely hidden, why is it so damn dark. big fan of most of the games especially the Capcom arcade game
You mean to tell me you didn’t enjoy the alien killing evil jocks?
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@jazzyblade1631 I completely agree
AvP was barely above mid. AvPR was as you said awful. From the acting to the production. Awful.
Requiem is better than people give it credit for! One of countless things AvP1 did horribly was the predators looked like rubbish (fat blokes in suits had never been more obvious) and the action was all so cartoony CG esp with the aliens defying all physical logic. Requiem corrects all this with practical fx and actual gore. All those exaggerated claims of it being supposedly too dark are only a few moments and that's it! Of cos the humans all were horrible so they were the one thing that brought Requiem down... not tht you'd go to a AvP film to watch humans anyhow! Action was where Requiem excelled!
Requiem isn't a "mess" nor does it negate the ending from it's predecessor.
If you think so care to tell us how
thank you, yeah how does it negate AvP ending? it literally takes place right after... and then Wolf has to clean up the mess in Requiem... Sure Requiem has it's "problems" but I think it was a better attemp at an AvP
@@erikarnold6853 basically everyone's problems with the movie come from it being poorly lit. If that was corrected I'm sure it would give the film a new life
LOL and nobody is going to mention what looks like a giant Xenomorph dong at 3:52 which was repeated again at 5:13?
We could have had some great AvP movies had they not ruined it be setting them on Earth present day. Dark Horse comics did amazing work with several stories set in the movies universes. They should have set them in the future timeline. I thought the movies were ok, but they were letdowns in a lot of ways.
Would have been funny if it was directed by the other Wes Anderson, the one who did Rushmore and Moonrise Kingdom😂😂😂😂😂
Can we please get a good Alien/Pred flick in me life? It's gotta not be that hard. But they failed both times. I mean Freddy/Jason worked well enough. You don't need Ripley or Dutch to make it work. Can there even be another great Alien or Predator solo movie in the 21st century? Well Predators was alright, and the independent shorts of both are mostly fine, but the 2 together? Someone PLEASE!
The xeno skull in Predator is cool but it doesn’t make sense. Xenos don’t have bones.
The AVP movies are terrible. Especially when you see the comics. How they screwed this up who knows.
Pronounced SA-NEYE LAY-THAN
We need other alien Vs Predator Moive that introduce The Other world life Forms Or The owlf For short set in 1960 in black and white
I forgot Alien is based in the future. So how TF AVP 2 makes sense🤣
I loved both Aliens & Predator as a kid, but as an adult, I don't think Predator has aged well. I don't think its anywhere near as good as what people say it is. I don't like the creature & find it is too cheesy.
Likewise, I also loved the AvP games, but these days they don't hold up. The PC AvP game from 1999/2000 was scary as hell at the time, but playing it today is frustrating. I like to play as the marines, & aliens just mindlessly fly at you very fast & endlessly respawn. It is frustrating when there is no reload button, so you can't reload between action. If you have about 30 rounds or so left, its a waste to just use it all up at nothing just to have a new magazine.
I also didn't like how it was a solo experience. You had no marines with you. I remember when AvP 2 was being made, previews would say you were in a squad like in the movies. Boy was I let down when as soon as you enter the facility, it "conveniently" caves in just after you enter. The other contrived situations making you only be solo was also annoying (like everyone being too scared to go & rescue that other marine, or being thrown in prison & have to escape by killing human enemies, which become the only enemy nearly until the rest of the game).
AvP 2010 I didn't care for at all. Every marine you met died quickly. There was no squad aspect like the Cameron movie, so it was horribly dated. The first level or two was effective, but once the generic robots that blow up appear it became crap.
I actually liked Colonial Marines. It should have been better, but it did get a lot of things right. The look (the blueish hues & designs of things) & sound design captured the feel of Cameron's film, which the AvP games, especially 2010, never bothered to do. The movie environments were perfectly recreated, & I loved having a motion tracker to equip, as opposed to a generic radar (Isolation showed the idea works).
I liked being part of a squad, something that the previous games didn't bother to do. I also loved playing as the movie marines in online. While I did like the game, I do NOT like or support what Pitchford & Gearscum did. I have never bought another game from them again.
Aliens Dark Descent is also fantastic, & also perfectly captures the ambiance of Cameron's film.
I don't think the AvP crossover was a good idea at all. The Alien franchise is vastly superior to the derivative Predator franchise, & they should have stayed separate. These movies, however, are just as brilliant as the originals compared to Ridley Hack's prequel garbage.
I have three problems with the AVP films. First, putting it on Earth in the modern day removes humans as a genuine contender. Second, in the games humans were represented by Marines and were a genuine threat to both creatures. Third, they on-screen killed kids. That turns me WAY off as kids are sacred and untouchable. Offscreen deaths of kids are acceptable, and still plenty disturbing; but kids are not to be shown getting screwed up.
Paul W.S. Anderson used to be a decent director
Now he's the worst director working today
Its a movie i actually don't hate. But its another generic styles anderson flick. Another "Oh i saw the first movies now I'm an expert." Thing. With RE and monster hunter i think he watched 10 minutes of streams and decided he knew everything. The slow start where he tries development and fails mostbof the cast is the same way he failed RE. Only Anderson trope missing is Mila. I think this was before they got married maybe
Geeee-ger nor guy-ger
What I find odd about these movie creatures... is they both had 2 decent movies each... and then a string of complete bilge.
They've had more movies that have been total shit than good movies, yet for some reason they've endured.
For comparison, Star Wars is the same, 2 decent movies, 1 half decent, and 6 terrible ones and a string of boring TV shows, and after 50 years is finally starting to die off... yet both the Aliens and Predators, after the same time of near 50 years, still have an unwavering fan base.
Bro absolutely butchered that woman’s name. 😅 That says a lot
The butchering of Sanaa Lathan’s name should result in jail time 😂 not a native English speaker or not, all it takes is a google search.
The moment producers decided for it to take place on Earth, it was so over. So called "creative masterminds" when a story isn't centered on their personal fanfics
Disappointed you butchered my childhood crush’s name damn!