The one thing I hate about the RE Interceptor 650 is that I don't own one. Something I should perhaps address as it seems to be a good simple machine to work on and personalise without breaking the bank.
Great alternative to a new Royal Enfield 650 is a 40-45 year old Yamaha XS 650. One in top condition ("as New") will now cost about the same as a new RE Interceptor, but the Yamaha Twin is a bit lighter, a bit faster, handles better and will almost certainly be more reliable and last longer. For a do-it-your-selfer, a good running 70s vintage XS650 that's not in "as new" condition can be had for $1,000 to $2,000 and can be restored to top shape for under $4,000.
@@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778 I doubt it will handle better, but your missing the point of the Intercepter, it's heritage and its aimed at bike riders not customers!
I think I have a wood dowel with cracking rubber suckers and a decades old two pot tin of valve grinding paste if things ever get too bad for the Flyer🤣
I've had mine for 3 months now. I've done 4700Km in that time. Just driving it for fun. This is a great bike, even after 3 BMW's. It takes only between 3.55 and 3.7 l/100km. Quite economic I'd say.
@@peterd3215 Suzuki 250 could be one of many bikes ts250 rm250 rmx250 gt250 gsx250 dr250 gn250 just to name a few older ones and the cb500 has run from 1971 -- as a four cylinder then 1993 -2020 as a twin I'm sure the valve check were generous on all of them
Chris Redfield It’s just a check. Doesn’t mean they will always be out of spec. Extremely easy to do anyways. I had a 2016 Ural, and the valves were out of spec ever 1,500-2,500 miles! Now that’s bad
My fixes for the gripes: 1. Replaced all the indicators with LED units. No problem with the mudguards - makes no difference. 2. Servicing is cheap here in Thailand, but I avoid the dealer as they're incompetent fools. 3. I can't see the tank seam when I'm sat on the bike. Try riding it more. 4. I had my side covers powdercoated. 5. I have a custom LED rear light unit that uses the rear fitting, but is much smaller.
Hey, I've been thinking of powder coating the side covers for a while now, but i feel it may interfere with the heat dissipation since I go for longish rides- anywhere from 100-300 miles a day. How has your experience been? Specially in a hot anf humid place like Thailand, which is similar to India in that way. Any issues on that front? Also, if you have a link for the tail light you bought, I'd like to check it out TIA
@@PrateekLalShah Hi Prateek. It makes no difference. Much of the cooling is done via the oil cooler. I've had no problems with the bike in 40deg heat. Go for it!
@@MarmiteTheDog Hey Jason. Thanks for the quick response. This helps a lot. Will definitely get this done as soon as the situation eases a bit. Could you help me out with the tail light you've installed? I've been looking around for an alternative, but seems like most aftermarket solutions I've seen take away from the retro look or are of horrible quality.
I like the " try riding it more" comment. True, some people love the idea of having/owning a motorcycle but don't actually use it. Being a motorcycle owner doesn't automatically make you a motorcycle rider.
The plastics are brilliant, in my opinion. Cheap to fix, rust free, and light. I cant fault this bike, which I find absolutely gorgeous. One of the best looking bikes I've seen since the Ducati 916.
I bought one, June 2019, the first one sold in North Carolina. Only part that I hate; TOO FEW DEALERSHIPS! I have to go 2 hours to get to the nearest one for services.
I'd do the service myself. That's the appeal to me of this bike, pop off the valve covers and adjust your clearance, adjust your chain, change your oil and filter and rock on.
@rchamb9839 I bought mine from a dealership in Raleigh. Would not recommend that place since they apparently do not service them (lots of excuses why they can't). But I had Select Cycle do my service. And will continue to do so. Might even have them check out my '74 CB450K7.
"Hate" is a very strong word, wouldn't "dislike" be better. I keep my Harley street bob in my tiny fort Knox back yard. No room to get at a bit of rust. Even so I'm sure the bike won't crumble to dust anytime soon. On as for my new Monkey Bike I keep it in house locked and chained.
I call mine my "Lolly Bike" - it does everything really well, in fact better than my BMW but that has a fairing and helps in inclement weather. The engine casings take a bit to rub and polish, but then I was doing that on my Triumph in the 70's as well! It corners better, ... it is easier to drop into a corner, has a lower COG than the Beemer, has good brakes for the machine, and great horns! Seat seems fine for me even in 10 hrs riding a day. I don't mind the plastic, keeps the price down and is very functional. Thanks for the vid Andy!!
@@daveinwla6360 It is more commonly used as CoG - 4th on a list where it is 10th on a list for CG behind Coast Guard, Computer Graphics etc. I am an engineer and our training taught us to use CoG. Also used as that in aviation. Also learnt Centre of Buoyancy as well... what have you learnt?
Another enjoyable vid!! Having been brought up on 70's and 80's bikes a fuel tank seam doesn't seem (pun intended) out of place to me. Also, to me the shape of the rear light mimics the Lucas units fitted to many Brit bikes, so IMHO it's quite in-keeping with the style of the Enfield, and was probably the reason why it was chosen.
I disagree I love the styling of the bike but the indicators and rear light seem clumsy. I’ve changed mine for led versions. It gets lots of compliments but happy to accept it’s just my opinion not everyones
I was very grateful for plastic rear mudguard when stationary at a roundabout, and a car driver mis judged the length of their vehicle The resulting low speed contact showed absolutely no damage due to the flexibility of the material....no cracks or marks ! The 3000 mile service interval, although short, is cheap. My local shop charged £68.00 including changing the oil provided by me. I totally agree with the rear light / indicators appearance. Hopefully with a good quality metal polish the aluminium components on the engine should be recoverable. Thanks for another great video, I enjoy them all.
Corrosion on the aluminum crankcase has been a concern for me as well, and it's often had me question the longevity of the motorcycle (I've personally owned my Interceptor 650 for almost a year now, with 2,800 miles on it. First bike, and I wouldnt have it any other way). I actually appreciate the plastic mudguards on mine, since it's one less thing to worry about rust and pitting wise. While doing the valve clearances is quite finicky, it's not exactly difficult or time consuming, (unless your completely new to motorcycle maintenance like myself, then it's just time consuming). When I checked mine, they were spot on, so no adjustment was necessary, though I've heard many owners have needed to loosen them to the correct tolerance. That seam on the tank hasn't quite bothered me either, but I've seen Royal Enfield owners use a plastic sheathing material to cover it as opposed to black tape. To add some negatives to the list though, as someone who has done a 200 mile ride on this retro beauty, the seat is quite uncomfortable over time (I'm 22 years old, and 140 pounds, so that's saying something) but for short cruises, it's absolutely no issue. And while I do not advocate night riding whatsoever, the headlight could definitely be a lot brighter. And while the 650 provides ample power, initial acceleration in comparison to other 650's (so I've heard) can leave a lot to be desired, though it's never bothered me personally. Overall, for the price, it's a superb motorcycle. I can't tell you how many compliments I've recieved for it, and it's an absolute joy to ride. Plain and simple. I expect to be riding it for many years to come.
700 miles in a year? You don't ride it enough. When machines aren't run regularly, the parts that are supposed to be dry get damp and the parts that are supposed to be moist get dry, the cold parts get too warm and the parts that like to be warm never warm up enough. Nothing corrodes engines like underuse, and no amount of caring or cleaning or fussing or protecting will keep rust off an engine as well as just running it 30-60 minutes a day so it can get good and hot.
3000 mile is only a check over, and a general lube of levers foot rests etc, which most owners would do as part of the general routine of owning a motorcycle, you dont need a dealer for this! The services on this bike are so simple 😀
Part of the love for my motorcycles is polishing and maintaining them. Tappet adjustment on these bikes is very easy if u watch a tutorial. The satisfaction knowing youve done it not a bike shop mechanic, for me is intense. Also i know it really has been done. Great channel
@@rl6210 - About the tube tires - have you thought about sealing up the spoke nipples with caulk and 3M tape and going tubeless? There are several good UA-cam videos on how to do it.
I bought an Interceptor, last year, but kept it for only 3 months. My own biggest gripe was the position of the foot pegs. Despite a concern on the test ride, I went ahead, anyway, knowing that Tec bike parts were planning to produce an adaptor plate, but couldn't get on with it. I do miss the bike and the T120 I bought to replace it is also far from perfect. It's clear that Triumph load up the "bargain basement" parts, eg: mismatching levers, plastic indicators, assuming that the owner will hastily upgrade. That said, even the cheapest Triumph Roadster, the T100, is around £3000 more than the Interceptor. I think, for the price point, what Royal Enfield has put together is an excellent compromise and leaves the buyer with cash in the bank to customise it, should they wish. I own a Classic 500 and a Himalayan and love how unpretentious they are.
The problem I had was two fold, really. On the one hand, I found the pegs to be just in the line of where I needed to place my legs in order to plant my feet when coming to traffic lights and junctions. I know this is entirely down to one's own personal dimensions, including arm length, and position on the bike. Other riders don't even notice it. On the other hand, and what made using the bike impossible for me, was that I couldn't adjust the gear shift lever sufficiently, in relationship to the peg, to make shifting comfortable. I broke my ankle a few years ago so have issues in the joint but I have to say that none of my other motorcycles, have caused me problems, including the Himalayan and the Classic 500. As I wrote, above, I loved the bike, apart from that one aspect, and may well buy another, if the footpeg issue is successfully resolved.
@@chriskay116 I had that on my Bonneville T100. The footpegs stuck into my ankles when I put my feet down. In the end it was so annoying that I sold it.
Main gripe as far as my wife is concerned is the appalling pillion peg placement. Even though she is only 5'2" tall, sitting on the pillion, her legs are bent at an awkward angle due to the height and positioning of the pegs. Does the exhaust need to be swept up so much apart from aesthetics? Mind you, this is a problem with nearly all bikes these days, and before you say that she should get her own bike, she has a full licence but these days as we are in our 60's prefers to ride pillion.
Very important comment, the bike has suddenly plummeted in my need to buy estimation! A good comfortable pillion position is so important for me, we almost divorced over the uncomfortable pillion on my MotoGuzzi V7 causing me to sell it!!
I think getting it modded will be easy, as here in India I've already seen many mods for the pillion pegs on the 650s, as I'm sure you're aware bikes are important daily transportation and not just weekend getaways over here. Then again, some mods here and there are part of the fun of owning a bike ;)
@@Tubespoet There are peg relocator kits, but raising the pillion would help too -- a custom job, or the Corbin seat with the raised passenger section.
Tube tyres is certainly one major gripe I've had for my Interceptor 650. RE can at least give us an option of alloy wheels because getting the puncture repaired (especially for the rear wheel) is such a mess.
Cast wheels and tubeless tyres was one of the reasons I ended up with a Speed Twin. Plus cleaning, much easier on a cast wheel, I don't love cleaning as much as TMF does :) As far as I can work out spoked wheels should only be on off roady type bikes, apparently cast wheels can crack if they're taken on rough terrain. Spoked wheels can take more abuse. Yes , some people like the spoked look ...
I'm not a hardcore Highway rider or a regular rider... But this seems perfect for a once a fortnight ride Not all about the speed or handling, but this does give that awesome pure riding feel. Simple riding pleasure. That's all I need. Shall be picking up this in chrome in a few months
You've obviously got too much money, if you were like the most of us, you would learn how to do the valves. These are only locknut and screw and are the easiest to work on and if you had to, save yourself some money and feel proud that you have bonded with the bike.
For myself and many others it's a matter of maintaining the factory warranty. If you don't keep up the services being done by a qualified mechanic they can deny a warranty claim, and in my opinion the 3 year warranty on the bike is one of the great things about it.
m messenger is a a fake talks a load of rubbish not a real biker all money not got a clue nice position to be in can't get to the off switch quick enough
Love mine after 12 months. Your reviews led me to buy one. My gripes thus far are the seat, terrible and I replaced, dodgy fuel gauge that never reads full and that's about it. I really love the original pipes and the bike. Keep upright
It's not too hard to do the tappet adjustment yourself. Stuart has a great video on that. I had to install a new saddle, adjustable levers and handlebar risers on mine to get the ergonomics how I like (I am 6'0" and 250lbs), now it's much closer to the Bonneville. I agree though, great bike, lots of fun to ride, and you don't really notice the lack of power when you're out enjoying yourself on the bike. The stock seat is uncomfortable after an hour on the bike. A new saddle is pretty much a must in my opinion.
ok flyer, I'm looking for a Sunday twin..... my everyday ride is a 2022 Honda CB650R... Think for a sunday bike new Honda CB750 Hornet or this Royal enfield Intercepter........ What do you think?
I would say being air cooled the oil would have to work a lot harder than a liquid cooled bike hence the service intervals. Easy enough to do yourself, I would have one in the shed.
@@rl6210 so you found one bike with a longer service interval, 6k is more than adequate considering. Trust me, ride one and you will forgive any short comings it has like plastic indicators. As TMF says, he loves his
Fair point but the Interceptor has an Oil Cooler to aid longevity, plus Oil Tech has advanced so much in recent years the Service Intervals fall well within the potential of the Engine to last a serious Mileage.
The service intervals are 500klms, 10k, 20k, 30k, 40k, 50k & 60k or every 12months, whichever is sooner, this is for valve clearance and oil. Why is everyone saying 3k miles?
@@burtvhulberthyhbn7583 strangely we don't use American owners manual in the UK. Our bikes are every 6000 oil and filter every intermediate 3000 physical check over at dealer. So you'll be at the dealer every 3000 miles.
There will always be something that we would change on our Bikes so its a fair cop that you (TMF) call yours out, some I agree with and others I don't but each to their own. I bought the Interceptor based on your Video posts and I just love it, I was intent on getting it serviced by the dealer that I bought it from who was relatively local but the cost he was charging was far in excess of what I would deem acceptable. So having now done the first service myself I can honestly say its not a problem, it is tricky getting the Rocker cover off but not overly so and the tappets are easy to adjust, I actually did feel a sense of achievement and now know a bit more about "My Bike" than I would have. Keep up the good work and it's a shame you never got to change out the rear light and indicator cluster as this was something I was looking forward to seeing you do.
I've not got 1 but I'm going to defend the RE TMF. I get some of your comments might be a bit tongue in cheek and maybe you were struggling to find 5 things you didn't REALLY like but to me that bike is a breath of fresh air. At under 6k it's GOT to be the best bargain available on 2 wheels so some compromises had to be made. Compare that to it's nearest rival in the Triumph range which is a whisker under 9k so 50% more money. Unlike Triumph RE actually have a real heritage too if that's important to the rider. Anyway what are the mud guards made of on your 16k GS LOL. Regarding the servicing, yes your Speedy might have a MAXIMUM service interval of 10k but it needs servicing once a year anyway so in the grand scheme if things how many Interceptor owners will do more than 3k a year on the RE? Not many I would guess. I know you said the valves need doing every other service but there again it's only a twin so less to do plus I bet it'll be traditional tappets so much simpler to do than if it was bucket and shims like your Triumph so likely to be cheaper? As far as the engine cases are concerned they will be bare aluminium just like the British bikes of yesteryear which it's emulating. You just need to spray the ali covers with something to protect them with something like GT85 or FS 365 etc after every ride/wash and they'll be fine and get the solvol autosol out if they do tarnish. If I was ever going to get a 2nd bike it would be 1 of these that's for sure
Hi Andy, I too love my Interceptor - passed my test in January, and she is just perfect for a newbie like me! Only couple of slight niggles are the bruised shins I get from those pesky footpegs! Also when my Interceptor wants petrol, she wants it NOW!!! Got quite a shock the first time the gauge went from a comfortable 2 bars to flashing empty rather sooner than I'd planned!
we all just used to use the trip meters back in the day didn't we? When it got to 160 or whatever you'd go and refill it whether you thought you needed it or not, or it'd suddenly start to splutter and you'd faff about trying to twist the petrol tap to reserve while still going along.
Just bought an FJR1300 for long distance touring and looking for a second bike for the trips into town at the weekend. Think I’ve just found it thanks to your review. Very informative as usual. Well done 👍
I agree, but only for the 'middle range'... when it reaches the lower blocks, it's more accurate. And when the last block starts blinking, it always at the same quantity, when one can still drive for +50km. Approx 3lts left in the tank. Is OK for me.
I think as most people have said to some degree this bike was built to a price point and once reached anything not done was finished to the old, cheap as chips method. But I think the important stuff was where the money got spent and the rest, well it gives you years of pleasure to change and tinker. The after market goodies are brilliant and you can alter most of your gripes with alternatives and have great fun doing it. I was surprised the chain guard didn’t get a mention with the plastic stuff. Great set up you have for doing some serious mods for the future.
My additions... standard seat is uncomfortable for me and many. Peg position just seems to get in the way... but you get used to it quickly. Final and biggest gripe - comparing it to bikes nearly twice the price!!
Andy these videos are brilliant! And wow ! The numbers speak for themselves. Superb channel. I used to own a a few bikes; KTM450 EXC, ZX6R and then an R1! Alas - planes took the fun budget. Hopefully room for both one day. Keep up the excelllent content. Very engaging!
I just took the Interceptor out for a test ride. I was quite impressed by the power, I took it to about 70mph and didn't get it into final gear. I live in a country where the average bike engine is 125cc, so it felt like a rocket. If you are just using it on public roads, I don't see how anyone could call it a "little engine".
Damn I see these everyday at my job lol, they are cool to look at, but the KTM’s and Aprilias are a sight to see (thank god I work at a KTM/Aprilia/Royal Enfield Dealership👌🏾)
Just bought one of these. Added a pair of slip-ons and the DNA kit. Can't wipe the smile off my face. I love, love, love this bike. A plethora of affordable upgrades if the itch ever arises makes it a winner for me. The geometry of these bikes is superb. After a lifetime of series of Triumph twins (Thruxtons, Bonny's Scramblers and truck loads of modifications and upgrades) These Enfield's are leaps and bounds better balanced and engineered. The RE team have really nailed it. If you want the perfect blank canvas for a custom, I can't think of anything better new or used on the market to start with. Make what you want of it or keep it standard and just enjoy it is. It's a brilliantly designed and engineered, usable "riders" motorcycle that you don't need to get all precious about.
Here's a reality check concerning chrome plated plastic turnsignals aka blinkers....they ain't nothing new. The 70's Lucas units were the same deal. Only difference was they were screwed onto steel stalks . And they broke just as easily then as they do now.
@@Ian-xt1mb In my mind, the value is much higher than the price you pay, which is what he was trying to say, I believe. I also own a BMW R1200RT, which has great value but also a higher price!
@@RE650NZGraeme I also have a BMW, a K1200R. Value and price have different meanings - fact! "Value is not made of money, but a tender balance of expectation and longing."
@@Ian-xt1mb and it is personal - what one feels is value, another treats as crap. I am an engineer and appreciate several design features on the RE650 that make me feel very warm about it - the cam follower rollers for one, the ease of adjusting the tappets, the high torque at low revs, the fuel economy is brilliant, the very low COG, - all things I place Value on, also the lovely engine sound - it could be louder but that is a matter of choice and additional funds - your preference. I will upgrade later. For my mind it has great value for money. I think you may be confusing Quality and Value.
I've had my interceptor since October 2019. Love almost everything about the bike & if I had to pick a couple of things that seem a bit off it would be these: 1. Fuel gage taking a while to give an accurate reading. You can be riding for 5 or so mins at full bars and then it suddenly drops down to 2. This means I have to rely on knowing how many miles I can get out of a full tank, which isn't the end of the world but makes the gauge kind of pointless. 2. The seat seems quite slippery! Maybe this is just because it's relatively new, or maybe it's my choice of trousers, but I find myself sliding backwards on it quite often. 3. When I first got the bike I found the footpeg position a bit awkward when putting my foot down, but I soon got used to it & don't have any issues anymore. p.s TMF, have you polished those TEC silencers? They're looking good!
Mr TMF when comes to home bike maintenance you're a bit of a wimp, but fair play, if you've got the money to pay for jobs to be done then why not? Your RE valve clearances are screw and locknut. You would probably spend time more getting to the point where you can get the rocker clover off and putting it all back together after, than doing the the job itself. The thing I hate about the RE is not having one.
I bought my Interceptor 650 last October and it’s now done 1500 miles. There’s no corrosion on it at all, despite having been ridden through the winter, but I washed it after every ride. It cost less than £6k so I can live with the plastic parts. My £8k Triumph Street Cup also has plastic mudguards! As other people have also pointed out, the 3k mile service is only a check up and no big deal. Like you, I absolutely love the bike and have no regrets about buying it. The only gripe I had was the uncomfortable stock seat but I bought the Continental touring seat which is much better and looks good on the bike, too.
I've ridden similarly to yourself through the winter. But when any of my bikes are covered in ACF 50 I don't wash them much in the winter. When they are washed in the spring they look fantastic.
Lol, I spent the day watching videos about the RE bikes (Interceptor and Continental GT), which is rare since I don’t have a bike and started watching bike videos 2 days ago, and you uploaded this 25 minutes ago. A great video to watch at 1:40am. This probably will be my first motorcycle, so thanks a lot for the info!
Don’t be put off by me - these are fabulous fun bikes and top value - I have loads more videos on my channel on the bike....watch those if you’re in research mode....
Must admit I never noticed the tank seam on mine so not a problem personally. The back end is fugly as you say but I find most are, even with Tail Tidies. Indicators are somewhat out of place on a retro but we must have them I guess. The plastic used is a big plus for me, no corrosion and won't dent. As another poster said, I found the seat cover slippery so had it recovered by Bootleg Seats in Preston, a company I have used for almost all my bikes www.bootlegbikeseats.com. Huge difference and got custom logos too. I come from the era when polishing cases with Solvol Autosol was the norm and very satisfying to do so don't know if cases corrode as regularly polish them. Similarly with valve clearances, easy to do Andy, honestly. Out of interest have checked mine twice so far and no adjustment required. Thanks for posting.
@@karlosh9286 I would not trust those comments. There a too many that have never even seen the bike and complain about rust because they have a prejudice towards anything manufactured in either China or India.
Yep. You get what you pay for. I recommend you take a look at the CB1100EX from Honda. Metal parts, wonderful seamless tank, long service interval and no corrosion. It does have a dodgy rear light though... Oh, and a lovely four cylinder air-cooled engine! I bought mine at 6 months old with a few hundred miles - for the price of a RE plus a few extras. And here she is... i.postimg.cc/0j0jwRpR/IMG-6307-2.jpg
Nice bike apart from the low power output. The engine in these is strangulated and is capable of putting out much more. Shame really. It should be putting out around 110 hp easily and still give you plenty of low down punch. It would make the bike more exciting to ride as well.
@@fyorbane Not sure I can agree, but I guess it depends on what you want the bike for. To me, this is a bike for a relaxing ride rather than for screaming from corner to corner. For those purposes it has plenty of mid-range power. I do admit though - 88hp is not a massive amount from an 1140cc motor.
Hi TMF, The service intervals are very short (the same on the Himalayan) especially doing the valves every second service. That would make me think twice before buying one. The rest I could live with. Thanks for posting 👍🏍🎥. Cheers.
@@STEVIEBSA it's only a check and adjust if necessary, not always do you have to adjust them, it may only be one or two certainly not all of them unless they were done wrong at some point. Mine needed one on the first service but it was so close I almost left it. The service intervals on 99% of cars and bikes is always too long, I've never serviced anything according to the book, my car's get new oil at 5k and bikes are done every 1500-2000 depending on how many miles I do in that year. I flush the brake fluid every year as well. Most service items can we bought cheep if you buy larger quantities and shop around then do it yourself. People always seem to moan about paying £30-50 to change the oil then spend £600-1000 on exhaust which makes them no quicker and brag about how many bhp it gave them, just remember a dirty air filter will rob bhp
@@rich.dodd1 totally agree,many people will think this is like a service with bucket n shims where as its a simple task to do at home . adjustment will be less necessary as time passes but if you look through the comments people are seeing a problem that's not there and are being put off buying a cracking bike .
Plastic don’t go rusty , better plastic than cheap chromed metal parts , that’s how I view it , it’s a cheap good value for money 💰 compromise has to be made I guess , as they are way cheaper than triumph by a long chalk ,,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Andy I have an Interceptor (bought July 19) and agree with most of what you said especially the fugly rear light. I also love the bike and thankfully not seen signs of corrosion so I will keep an eye out. Great vid as always 👍
My old Honda 500/4 many years ago (back in the 70's) we used to change oil & filter, adjust tappets check and adjust plugs and points, whether it needed it or not every 5000k. That machine in the background looks like an implement of torture
One thing I really love about this bike it is highly customizable platform so all these little niggles are really replaceable and easy to remedy with better quality aftermarket parts, you can really make it yours. Service interval do it yourself even valves easy nut adjustment. Learn it and save money in the long run. Simple and enjoyable bike that how it should be. Price is right. One more thing I think bike looks really nice 🙂. That how it should be bike with lovely engine in it that produces enough power and torque that sound great. Nothing else needed to hapiness just an open road.
The fuel indicator is also all over the place! It'll sometimes be on full and then 1/3 the next ride depending on the weather. Best if you just tack it in the trip meter and fuel up near the 200km mark
i thought i'd love it because my ducati doesnt have a gauge, only a low fuel warning. but the gauge on the re650 is absolute garbage. i've gotten the gauge to start blinking as early as only 90km on the odometer and i for sure know theres more fuel in there. i just have no idea how much. other times, the gauge just completely jumps around. one moment its at 3 bars, then the next its at like 7 bars.
Guess what, I just got a call from the RE informing me that the motorcycle is ready and can be picked later today. I got the notification of your video around about the same time, also I had booked the same model (Baker Express) in March and I'm getting it now as it got stuck due to lockdown. :) Cheers from India!
Yes your right. About the rust. Got a GT650. Don't even want to ride it when raining. We can but we have to wash and dry it at once to prevent rusting.
You're playing Devil's Advocate here! Like you, I love my Interceptor, but bought the black one, so the tank seams aren't an issue. Personally, I wanted to make my bike look as retro as possible, so the rear light (like a Lucas 564, only bigger) was fine, but the indicators were changed to Lucas pattern units to match. The plastic mudguards are rust-free, but you can change them to alloy ones for about £200, which you will then have to polish with Solvol Autosol or similar, when you're doing the engine casings - all part of keeping a modern retro bike looking good. No, my biggest gripe ( like many other owners) is those wide rider footpegs that just seem to get in the way when you stop.
I have to totally disagree with this, I think they are both great, the front could do with being a bit stiffer but apart from that I can't see them jumping out as shortcomings. I've been carving the bends 2 up and not an issue in sight. The cheap indicators, seat cover, peg positions, keys and some of the chrome work are only things I will look into.
I do agree with you on the plasticky feel. But, I think that's one of the ways to keep the weight down. Surprised that you need to haul your bike to the SC every 3k miles. We have service intervals of 10k km here in India.
The one thing I hate about the RE Interceptor 650 is that I don't own one. Something I should perhaps address as it seems to be a good simple machine to work on and personalise without breaking the bank.
Same here
Yeap, me too! :)
Great alternative to a new Royal Enfield 650 is a 40-45 year old Yamaha XS 650. One in top condition ("as New") will now cost about the same as a new RE Interceptor, but the Yamaha Twin is a bit lighter, a bit faster, handles better and will almost certainly be more reliable and last longer. For a do-it-your-selfer, a good running 70s vintage XS650 that's not in "as new" condition can be had for $1,000 to $2,000 and can be restored to top shape for under $4,000.
Agree plan to buy as a second bike in the future. It's just great and the price is unbelievable.
@@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778 I doubt it will handle better, but your missing the point of the Intercepter, it's heritage and its aimed at bike riders not customers!
‘I hate the service intervals of 3,000 miles’. ‘I’ve only done about 700 miles on the bike...’ 😆
I think I have a wood dowel with cracking rubber suckers and a decades old two pot tin of valve grinding paste if things ever get too bad for the Flyer🤣
Hilarious.
I've had mine for 3 months now. I've done 4700Km in that time. Just driving it for fun. This is a great bike, even after 3 BMW's. It takes only between 3.55 and 3.7 l/100km. Quite economic I'd say.
I have heard that only the first service is at 3k then after that 6k is recommended.
Service intervals are 6,000 miles, he read the handbook wrong.
Service intervals are 6000mls oil and valve clearances etc. The 3000 mile is a check over which most owners will do themselves.
Valve clearances every 6k doesn't give me much faith in the engine
@@peterd3215 Suzuki 250 could be one of many bikes ts250 rm250 rmx250 gt250 gsx250 dr250 gn250 just to name a few older ones and the cb500 has run from 1971 -- as a four cylinder then 1993 -2020 as a twin I'm sure the valve check were generous on all of them
Does say about being checked at 600miles but after that its every 8,000miles
@@chrisredfield3240 it's only a check and adjust if necessary, not you have to adjust everyone every 6k.
Chris Redfield It’s just a check. Doesn’t mean they will always be out of spec. Extremely easy to do anyways. I had a 2016 Ural, and the valves were out of spec ever 1,500-2,500 miles! Now that’s bad
My fixes for the gripes:
1. Replaced all the indicators with LED units. No problem with the mudguards - makes no difference.
2. Servicing is cheap here in Thailand, but I avoid the dealer as they're incompetent fools.
3. I can't see the tank seam when I'm sat on the bike. Try riding it more.
4. I had my side covers powdercoated.
5. I have a custom LED rear light unit that uses the rear fitting, but is much smaller.
Hey,
I've been thinking of powder coating the side covers for a while now, but i feel it may interfere with the heat dissipation since I go for longish rides- anywhere from 100-300 miles a day. How has your experience been? Specially in a hot anf humid place like Thailand, which is similar to India in that way. Any issues on that front?
Also, if you have a link for the tail light you bought, I'd like to check it out
TIA
@@PrateekLalShah Hi Prateek. It makes no difference. Much of the cooling is done via the oil cooler. I've had no problems with the bike in 40deg heat.
Go for it!
@@MarmiteTheDog Hey Jason. Thanks for the quick response. This helps a lot. Will definitely get this done as soon as the situation eases a bit.
Could you help me out with the tail light you've installed? I've been looking around for an alternative, but seems like most aftermarket solutions I've seen take away from the retro look or are of horrible quality.
I like the " try riding it more" comment. True, some people love the idea of having/owning a motorcycle but don't actually use it. Being a motorcycle owner doesn't automatically make you a motorcycle rider.
Can you please share a link of the LED kit you installed on your bike?
The plastics are brilliant, in my opinion.
Cheap to fix, rust free, and light.
I cant fault this bike, which I find absolutely gorgeous.
One of the best looking bikes I've seen since the Ducati 916.
All of the issues are nothing, given the price of the product
I agree, I'd rather have plastic mudguards than metal ones for all the reasons you've already given.
@@GK1976A me too and I've got one, plastic is staying
These 5 things dont bother me at all
I agree,, must be an English thing, ha ha halo from Ireland
I counted at least 10 motorcycle jackets in the background. You must have a very understanding wife TMF :)
You should see indoors!
No he's just got too much money.
@@stevepalmer5670 Good for him.
Understanding wife for putting up with such a nut!
He's got 10 differant types of weather ☁️🌡️
I bought one, June 2019, the first one sold in North Carolina. Only part that I hate; TOO FEW DEALERSHIPS! I have to go 2 hours to get to the nearest one for services.
Yikes!
@@TheMissendenFlyer The US is huge mate. Sparse dealers means sparse service!
I'd do the service myself. That's the appeal to me of this bike, pop off the valve covers and adjust your clearance, adjust your chain, change your oil and filter and rock on.
@rchamb9839 I bought mine from a dealership in Raleigh. Would not recommend that place since they apparently do not service them (lots of excuses why they can't). But I had Select Cycle do my service. And will continue to do so. Might even have them check out my '74 CB450K7.
@rchamb9839I'm thinking of buying an int as well, best of both worlds.. and because I think they're cool. 🤔
"Hate" is a very strong word, wouldn't "dislike" be better.
I keep my Harley street bob in my tiny fort Knox back yard. No room to get at a bit of rust. Even so I'm sure the bike won't crumble to dust anytime soon. On as for my new Monkey Bike I keep it in house locked and chained.
I keep my monkeys chained in my basement😜
I call mine my "Lolly Bike" - it does everything really well, in fact better than my BMW but that has a fairing and helps in inclement weather. The engine casings take a bit to rub and polish, but then I was doing that on my Triumph in the 70's as well! It corners better, ... it is easier to drop into a corner, has a lower COG than the Beemer, has good brakes for the machine, and great horns! Seat seems fine for me even in 10 hrs riding a day. I don't mind the plastic, keeps the price down and is very functional. Thanks for the vid Andy!!
sorry for the dumb question, but what does COG mean?
@@Marcellodelivera Center of Gravity ;)
@@Marcellodelivera - It's normally abbreviated as "CG", and it usually coincides with Center of Mass.
@@daveinwla6360 It is more commonly used as CoG - 4th on a list where it is 10th on a list for CG behind Coast Guard, Computer Graphics etc. I am an engineer and our training taught us to use CoG. Also used as that in aviation. Also learnt Centre of Buoyancy as well... what have you learnt?
@@RE650NZGraeme - My training has been in physics and civil aviation - both U.S.-based.
The cool thing is that you can do your own valve adjustments, they're a piece of cake!
I actually like the rear lamp and don’t object to the chrome plated plastic indicators. It helps keep the price down.
Another enjoyable vid!!
Having been brought up on 70's and 80's bikes a fuel tank seam doesn't seem (pun intended) out of place to me. Also, to me the shape of the rear light mimics the Lucas units fitted to many Brit bikes, so IMHO it's quite in-keeping with the style of the Enfield, and was probably the reason why it was chosen.
Agree, there are also plenty of rubberised seam trims on the market that may last longer and look better than insolation tape
I disagree I love the styling of the bike but the indicators and rear light seem clumsy. I’ve changed mine for led versions. It gets lots of compliments but happy to accept it’s just my opinion not everyones
Had a 2003 Gsx1400 which shared the same tank design.
Maybe it's easier to mass produce.
Prone to chipping then rust.
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I was very grateful for plastic rear mudguard when stationary at a roundabout, and a car driver mis judged the length of their vehicle The resulting low speed contact showed absolutely no damage due to the flexibility of the material....no cracks or marks !
The 3000 mile service interval, although short, is cheap. My local shop charged £68.00 including changing the oil provided by me.
I totally agree with the rear light / indicators appearance. Hopefully with a good quality metal polish the aluminium components on the engine should be recoverable.
Thanks for another great video, I enjoy them all.
Corrosion on the aluminum crankcase has been a concern for me as well, and it's often had me question the longevity of the motorcycle (I've personally owned my Interceptor 650 for almost a year now, with 2,800 miles on it. First bike, and I wouldnt have it any other way).
I actually appreciate the plastic mudguards on mine, since it's one less thing to worry about rust and pitting wise.
While doing the valve clearances is quite finicky, it's not exactly difficult or time consuming, (unless your completely new to motorcycle maintenance like myself, then it's just time consuming). When I checked mine, they were spot on, so no adjustment was necessary, though I've heard many owners have needed to loosen them to the correct tolerance.
That seam on the tank hasn't quite bothered me either, but I've seen Royal Enfield owners use a plastic sheathing material to cover it as opposed to black tape.
To add some negatives to the list though, as someone who has done a 200 mile ride on this retro beauty, the seat is quite uncomfortable over time (I'm 22 years old, and 140 pounds, so that's saying something) but for short cruises, it's absolutely no issue. And while I do not advocate night riding whatsoever, the headlight could definitely be a lot brighter. And while the 650 provides ample power, initial acceleration in comparison to other 650's (so I've heard) can leave a lot to be desired, though it's never bothered me personally.
Overall, for the price, it's a superb motorcycle. I can't tell you how many compliments I've recieved for it, and it's an absolute joy to ride. Plain and simple. I expect to be riding it for many years to come.
I'm in Kenya and I've never seen any royal enfield mechanics here so shold the valve clearing service be a concern if I'm to get the bike?
700 miles in a year? You don't ride it enough. When machines aren't run regularly, the parts that are supposed to be dry get damp and the parts that are supposed to be moist get dry, the cold parts get too warm and the parts that like to be warm never warm up enough. Nothing corrodes engines like underuse, and no amount of caring or cleaning or fussing or protecting will keep rust off an engine as well as just running it 30-60 minutes a day so it can get good and hot.
Noted.
Very true! That especially applies to vintage motorbikes and automobiles👍
3000 mile is only a check over, and a general lube of levers foot rests etc, which most owners would do as part of the general routine of owning a motorcycle, you dont need a dealer for this!
The services on this bike are so simple 😀
Part of the love for my motorcycles is polishing and maintaining them. Tappet adjustment on these bikes is very easy if u watch a tutorial. The satisfaction knowing youve done it not a bike shop mechanic, for me is intense. Also i know it really has been done. Great channel
Thank you Michael!
Agree ! ...this is part of the fun owning a bike like this. The tube tires my main complaint
@@rl6210 - About the tube tires - have you thought about sealing up the spoke nipples with caulk and 3M tape and going tubeless?
There are several good UA-cam videos on how to do it.
I bought an Interceptor, last year, but kept it for only 3 months. My own biggest gripe was the position of the foot pegs. Despite a concern on the test ride, I went ahead, anyway, knowing that Tec bike parts were planning to produce an adaptor plate, but couldn't get on with it.
I do miss the bike and the T120 I bought to replace it is also far from perfect. It's clear that Triumph load up the "bargain basement" parts, eg: mismatching levers, plastic indicators, assuming that the owner will hastily upgrade. That said, even the cheapest Triumph Roadster, the T100, is around £3000 more than the Interceptor. I think, for the price point, what Royal Enfield has put together is an excellent compromise and leaves the buyer with cash in the bank to customise it, should they wish.
I own a Classic 500 and a Himalayan and love how unpretentious they are.
I find the footrests just under my feet, I don't really know were else they could have put them.
A lot of people seem to mention the foot pegs, is it a shorter leg thing? I have never noticed it in 1500 miles.
The problem I had was two fold, really. On the one hand, I found the pegs to be just in the line of where I needed to place my legs in order to plant my feet when coming to traffic lights and junctions. I know this is entirely down to one's own personal dimensions, including arm length, and position on the bike. Other riders don't even notice it. On the other hand, and what made using the bike impossible for me, was that I couldn't adjust the gear shift lever sufficiently, in relationship to the peg, to make shifting comfortable. I broke my ankle a few years ago so have issues in the joint but I have to say that none of my other motorcycles, have caused me problems, including the Himalayan and the Classic 500. As I wrote, above, I loved the bike, apart from that one aspect, and may well buy another, if the footpeg issue is successfully resolved.
@@chriskay116 I had that on my Bonneville T100. The footpegs stuck into my ankles when I put my feet down. In the end it was so annoying that I sold it.
REH owners are not only unpretentious, but waay cool. 😎
Your garage is bigger than my house 😂
It's about priorities. Small house, big garage, more motorcycles and more time to go riding. 😆
Looks bigger than it is cause of that irritating fisheye lens setting.
There’s a house on the internet. One bedroom one bathroom garage for 18 cars. Shame it’s in America
Main gripe as far as my wife is concerned is the appalling pillion peg placement. Even though she is only 5'2" tall, sitting on the pillion, her legs are bent at an awkward angle due to the height and positioning of the pegs. Does the exhaust need to be swept up so much apart from aesthetics? Mind you, this is a problem with nearly all bikes these days, and before you say that she should get her own bike, she has a full licence but these days as we are in our 60's prefers to ride pillion.
Very important comment, the bike has suddenly plummeted in my need to buy estimation! A good comfortable pillion position is so important for me, we almost divorced over the uncomfortable pillion on my MotoGuzzi V7 causing me to sell it!!
I think getting it modded will be easy, as here in India I've already seen many mods for the pillion pegs on the 650s, as I'm sure you're aware bikes are important daily transportation and not just weekend getaways over here. Then again, some mods here and there are part of the fun of owning a bike ;)
@@Tubespoet There are peg relocator kits, but raising the pillion would help too -- a custom job, or the Corbin seat with the raised passenger section.
@@jah1138 Thanks for that, it seems achievable so I'll visit a dealer in the New Year and have a sit on it
Tube tyres is certainly one major gripe I've had for my Interceptor 650. RE can at least give us an option of alloy wheels because getting the puncture repaired (especially for the rear wheel) is such a mess.
Good point!
Cast wheels and tubeless tyres was one of the reasons I ended up with a Speed Twin. Plus cleaning, much easier on a cast wheel, I don't love cleaning as much as TMF does :)
As far as I can work out spoked wheels should only be on off roady type bikes, apparently cast wheels can crack if they're taken on rough terrain. Spoked wheels can take more abuse.
Yes , some people like the spoked look ...
I'm not a hardcore Highway rider or a regular rider... But this seems perfect for a once a fortnight ride
Not all about the speed or handling, but this does give that awesome pure riding feel.
Simple riding pleasure. That's all I need.
Shall be picking up this in chrome in a few months
Outtakes are very brave and make you human - Much respect - A great guy, a brilliant channel - Keep um coming
Thank you John!
You've obviously got too much money, if you were like the most of us, you would learn how to do the valves. These are only locknut and screw and are the easiest to work on and if you had to, save yourself some money and feel proud that you have bonded with the bike.
For myself and many others it's a matter of maintaining the factory warranty. If you don't keep up the services being done by a qualified mechanic they can deny a warranty claim, and in my opinion the 3 year warranty on the bike is one of the great things about it.
m messenger is a a fake talks a load of rubbish not a real biker all money not got a clue nice position to be in can't get to the off switch quick enough
@@MrJulianneave
That's tosh, if you use the correct parts from the manufacturer, you see if they cannot do a warranty claim. Read the law.
@@dieterlewry5138
Haven't laughed so much in a long time.
He'd make a good TV presenter blue Peter etc.
Love mine after 12 months. Your reviews led me to buy one. My gripes thus far are the seat, terrible and I replaced, dodgy fuel gauge that never reads full and that's about it. I really love the original pipes and the bike. Keep upright
Great fun aren't they John....
All in, still an incredible value and fun to ride!
Another great video, loved the bloopers at the end. Take care and stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
That service interval thing is a myth. You occasionally have to check stuff is tight, if the valves get noisy run them down. That’s about it.
So jealous of your garage mate. Not just what's in it but how big it is and how you have it set out. Proper job 👍
Glad you like it Nick - I spend a lot of time in there....
If you was a rich Ponce you could have a garage like that ass well.
It's not too hard to do the tappet adjustment yourself. Stuart has a great video on that. I had to install a new saddle, adjustable levers and handlebar risers on mine to get the ergonomics how I like (I am 6'0" and 250lbs), now it's much closer to the Bonneville. I agree though, great bike, lots of fun to ride, and you don't really notice the lack of power when you're out enjoying yourself on the bike. The stock seat is uncomfortable after an hour on the bike. A new saddle is pretty much a must in my opinion.
ok flyer, I'm looking for a Sunday twin..... my everyday ride is a 2022 Honda CB650R... Think for a sunday bike new Honda CB750 Hornet or this Royal enfield Intercepter........ What do you think?
Interceptor…
Service intervals are very poor..... not had any issues with corrosion.....yet ....but I’m with you, my Continental GT is a keeper....👌
Thanks TMF for your comments. You have definitely “knocked the bloom off the rose” for me.
Oh dear!!
I would say being air cooled the oil would have to work a lot harder than a liquid cooled bike hence the service intervals. Easy enough to do yourself, I would have one in the shed.
.? Honda CB1100EX has 8,000 mile intervals
@@rl6210 so you found one bike with a longer service interval, 6k is more than adequate considering.
Trust me, ride one and you will forgive any short comings it has like plastic indicators.
As TMF says, he loves his
Fair point but the Interceptor has an Oil Cooler to aid longevity, plus Oil Tech has advanced so much in recent years the Service Intervals fall well within the potential of the Engine to last a serious Mileage.
It's not air cooled. It's air/oil cooled that's why it has to run high spec race oil. Which is £40 for 4 litres.
The mileage doesn't matter when you've only done 700 miles in a year servicing will be time based!
Beautiful motorcycle! Love the bloopers!
Glad you like them!
Looks a great bike Andy, i could suffer all the gripes except that 3000 mile service, far too short.
The service intervals are 500klms, 10k, 20k, 30k, 40k, 50k & 60k or every 12months, whichever is sooner, this is for valve clearance and oil.
Why is everyone saying 3k miles?
@@rich.dodd1 Eer because that's what the UK service schedule says!
Hey mister read your owners manual. Oil and filter changes every 6,000 miles not 3K.
Page 119 of my USA/California owners manual.
@@rich.dodd1 no kidding.
Page 119 of my USA/California owners manual.
@@burtvhulberthyhbn7583 strangely we don't use American owners manual in the UK. Our bikes are every 6000 oil and filter every intermediate 3000 physical check over at dealer. So you'll be at the dealer every 3000 miles.
There will always be something that we would change on our Bikes so its a fair cop that you (TMF) call yours out, some I agree with and others I don't but each to their own. I bought the Interceptor based on your Video posts and I just love it, I was intent on getting it serviced by the dealer that I bought it from who was relatively local but the cost he was charging was far in excess of what I would deem acceptable. So having now done the first service myself I can honestly say its not a problem, it is tricky getting the Rocker cover off but not overly so and the tappets are easy to adjust, I actually did feel a sense of achievement and now know a bit more about "My Bike" than I would have. Keep up the good work and it's a shame you never got to change out the rear light and indicator cluster as this was something I was looking forward to seeing you do.
That rear light is going don’t you worry about that!
I've not got 1 but I'm going to defend the RE TMF. I get some of your comments might be a bit tongue in cheek and maybe you were struggling to find 5 things you didn't REALLY like but to me that bike is a breath of fresh air. At under 6k it's GOT to be the best bargain available on 2 wheels so some compromises had to be made. Compare that to it's nearest rival in the Triumph range which is a whisker under 9k so 50% more money. Unlike Triumph RE actually have a real heritage too if that's important to the rider. Anyway what are the mud guards made of on your 16k GS LOL. Regarding the servicing, yes your Speedy might have a MAXIMUM service interval of 10k but it needs servicing once a year anyway so in the grand scheme if things how many Interceptor owners will do more than 3k a year on the RE? Not many I would guess. I know you said the valves need doing every other service but there again it's only a twin so less to do plus I bet it'll be traditional tappets so much simpler to do than if it was bucket and shims like your Triumph so likely to be cheaper? As far as the engine cases are concerned they will be bare aluminium just like the British bikes of yesteryear which it's emulating. You just need to spray the ali covers with something to protect them with something like GT85 or FS 365 etc after every ride/wash and they'll be fine and get the solvol autosol out if they do tarnish. If I was ever going to get a 2nd bike it would be 1 of these that's for sure
Well done TMF, I enjoyed that, thanks. That corrosion is a bit of a worry though
the possible rusting/bad treatment of the chrome around the engine ( engineguards?) is the only really bad thing in my list ...
Glad to see you are keeping the weight off despite the cookies and the lockdown. Ride safe, from the colonies.
Cheers Jeffrey - it's a lifestyle thing (and Hobnobs are strictly a weekend treat!) :0)
‘Trusty royal enfield’ is a term i never thought id hear 😂
LOL. Did you feel the ground shake? :-)
I just ordered mine, so I do trust them
@@nitrogary1324 good for you gary! Thanks for sharing!
@@jackgambino2687 can't wait
@@nitrogary1324 hope you enjoy it
Hi Andy, I too love my Interceptor - passed my test in January, and she is just perfect for a newbie like me! Only couple of slight niggles are the bruised shins I get from those pesky footpegs! Also when my Interceptor wants petrol, she wants it NOW!!! Got quite a shock the first time the gauge went from a comfortable 2 bars to flashing empty rather sooner than I'd planned!
we all just used to use the trip meters back in the day didn't we? When it got to 160 or whatever you'd go and refill it whether you thought you needed it or not, or it'd suddenly start to splutter and you'd faff about trying to twist the petrol tap to reserve while still going along.
@Paul Boobier luckily old British bikes would usually break down before running out of fuel.
@@caspianprince having that reserve tap made all the difference though.😉
Buy some feeler gauges. Valve clearances should be simple on and ancient design like that.
Just bought an FJR1300 for long distance touring and looking for a second bike for the trips into town at the weekend. Think I’ve just found it thanks to your review. Very informative as usual. Well done 👍
This would make a brilliant 2nd bike alongside the mighty FJR....
The one thing I hate about my interceptor is false fuel indicator
I agree, but only for the 'middle range'... when it reaches the lower blocks, it's more accurate. And when the last block starts blinking, it always at the same quantity, when one can still drive for +50km. Approx 3lts left in the tank. Is OK for me.
eric droesbeke of course that’s manageable
I think as most people have said to some degree this bike was built to a price point and
once reached anything not done was finished to the old, cheap as chips method. But I
think the important stuff was where the money got spent and the rest, well it gives you
years of pleasure to change and tinker. The after market goodies are brilliant and you
can alter most of your gripes with alternatives and have great fun doing it. I was
surprised the chain guard didn’t get a mention with the plastic stuff. Great set up
you have for doing some serious mods for the future.
Stay tuned!
My additions... standard seat is uncomfortable for me and many. Peg position just seems to get in the way... but you get used to it quickly. Final and biggest gripe - comparing it to bikes nearly twice the price!!
My misses does all the maintenance, she gets free beer when we go to the pub. Sharing is the basis of a relationship.
The rear light looks just as it should in my book - reminds me of the real thing from the sixties ! : )
Andy these videos are brilliant! And wow ! The numbers speak for themselves. Superb channel. I used to own a a few bikes; KTM450 EXC, ZX6R and then an R1! Alas - planes took the fun budget. Hopefully room for both one day. Keep up the excelllent content. Very engaging!
Coming from you that means a lot Ben - thank you!
I just took the Interceptor out for a test ride. I was quite impressed by the power, I took it to about 70mph and didn't get it into final gear.
I live in a country where the average bike engine is 125cc, so it felt like a rocket. If you are just using it on public roads, I don't see how anyone could call it a "little engine".
Great review....I like plastic mud guards but not keen on plastic indicators....stay safe...thanks for sharing
Damn I see these everyday at my job lol, they are cool to look at, but the KTM’s and Aprilias are a sight to see (thank god I work at a KTM/Aprilia/Royal Enfield Dealership👌🏾)
Just bought one of these. Added a pair of slip-ons and the DNA kit. Can't wipe the smile off my face. I love, love, love this bike. A plethora of affordable upgrades if the itch ever arises makes it a winner for me. The geometry of these bikes is superb. After a lifetime of series of Triumph twins (Thruxtons, Bonny's Scramblers and truck loads of modifications and upgrades) These Enfield's are leaps and bounds better balanced and engineered. The RE team have really nailed it. If you want the perfect blank canvas for a custom, I can't think of anything better new or used on the market to start with. Make what you want of it or keep it standard and just enjoy it is. It's a brilliantly designed and engineered, usable "riders" motorcycle that you don't need to get all precious about.
Here's a reality check concerning chrome plated plastic turnsignals aka blinkers....they ain't nothing new. The 70's Lucas units were the same deal. Only difference was they were screwed onto steel stalks . And they broke just as easily then as they do now.
I enjoyed it - learned and laughed. And there... you have it. Cracking bike!
All reflected in the price of the machine!!….rightly or wrongly, like my old dad always said...you pay for what you get son.
Indeed - and the RE is outstanding value for money....
@@TheMissendenFlyer You are confusing value with price!
@@Ian-xt1mb In my mind, the value is much higher than the price you pay, which is what he was trying to say, I believe. I also own a BMW R1200RT, which has great value but also a higher price!
@@RE650NZGraeme I also have a BMW, a K1200R. Value and price have different meanings - fact!
"Value is not made of money, but a tender balance of expectation and longing."
@@Ian-xt1mb and it is personal - what one feels is value, another treats as crap. I am an engineer and appreciate several design features on the RE650 that make me feel very warm about it - the cam follower rollers for one, the ease of adjusting the tappets, the high torque at low revs, the fuel economy is brilliant, the very low COG, - all things I place Value on, also the lovely engine sound - it could be louder but that is a matter of choice and additional funds - your preference. I will upgrade later. For my mind it has great value for money. I think you may be confusing Quality and Value.
Great video but love the out takes these days keep up the good work.
Cheers Richard, will do!
I've had my interceptor since October 2019. Love almost everything about the bike & if I had to pick a couple of things that seem a bit off it would be these:
1. Fuel gage taking a while to give an accurate reading. You can be riding for 5 or so mins at full bars and then it suddenly drops down to 2. This means I have to rely on knowing how many miles I can get out of a full tank, which isn't the end of the world but makes the gauge kind of pointless.
2. The seat seems quite slippery! Maybe this is just because it's relatively new, or maybe it's my choice of trousers, but I find myself sliding backwards on it quite often.
3. When I first got the bike I found the footpeg position a bit awkward when putting my foot down, but I soon got used to it & don't have any issues anymore.
p.s TMF, have you polished those TEC silencers? They're looking good!
Actually no - they’re brushed finish so wouldn’t take to polishing....
That's what trip meters are made for. Never trust a fuel gauge on an any bike.
The black tape on the tank seam is a clever touch, I was weaned on 60's Triumphs and admire the clean look of the classic fuel tanks.
Yes I don’t know why manufacturers can’t do that anymore it seems…
Mr TMF when comes to home bike maintenance you're a bit of a wimp, but fair play, if you've got the money to pay for jobs to be done then why not? Your RE valve clearances are screw and locknut. You would probably spend time more getting to the point where you can get the rocker clover off and putting it all back together after, than doing the the job itself. The thing I hate about the RE is not having one.
I bought my Interceptor 650 last October and it’s now done 1500 miles. There’s no corrosion on it at all, despite having been ridden through the winter, but I washed it after every ride. It cost less than £6k so I can live with the plastic parts. My £8k Triumph Street Cup also has plastic mudguards! As other people have also pointed out, the 3k mile service is only a check up and no big deal. Like you, I absolutely love the bike and have no regrets about buying it. The only gripe I had was the uncomfortable stock seat but I bought the Continental touring seat which is much better and looks good on the bike, too.
I've ridden similarly to yourself through the winter. But when any of my bikes are covered in ACF 50 I don't wash them much in the winter. When they are washed in the spring they look fantastic.
I cant believe your still telling everyone the service is every 3000 miles.
According to RE it is every 6k miles....
I’m test riding one tomorrow here in Dubai. I thing I noticed when I sat on it in the showroom was how hard the seat was!
Enjoy!
Packet of Hob Nobs whilst filming = Bad person. Send the packet to me and I'll save your soul. ;-)
Thanks for the offer (and for watching until the end!)....
Lol, I spent the day watching videos about the RE bikes (Interceptor and Continental GT), which is rare since I don’t have a bike and started watching bike videos 2 days ago, and you uploaded this 25 minutes ago. A great video to watch at 1:40am. This probably will be my first motorcycle, so thanks a lot for the info!
Don’t be put off by me - these are fabulous fun bikes and top value - I have loads more videos on my channel on the bike....watch those if you’re in research mode....
Must admit I never noticed the tank seam on mine so not a problem personally. The back end is fugly as you say but I find most are, even with Tail Tidies. Indicators are somewhat out of place on a retro but we must have them I guess. The plastic used is a big plus for me, no corrosion and won't dent. As another poster said, I found the seat cover slippery so had it recovered by Bootleg Seats in Preston, a company I have used for almost all my bikes www.bootlegbikeseats.com. Huge difference and got custom logos too. I come from the era when polishing cases with Solvol Autosol was the norm and very satisfying to do so don't know if cases corrode as regularly polish them. Similarly with valve clearances, easy to do Andy, honestly. Out of interest have checked mine twice so far and no adjustment required. Thanks for posting.
Oh no. As soon as you mention Kate Beckinsale my poor man brain immediately couldn’t concentrate on your usual excellent video content....
Mmmm what a lady eh? The mind boggles...
Thats why i decided on a triumph.I have looked at others second hand corrosion seems to be a problem
I'd heard about rusty Enfields. I was considering one instead of a Triumph (that I eventually got). The corrosion thing did put me off.
@@karlosh9286 I would not trust those comments. There a too many that have never even seen the bike and complain about rust because they have a prejudice towards anything manufactured in either China or India.
Stuart Fillingham's channel did an episode on the myth of RE corrosion, and how to protect all bikes from it.
That was very helpful, thanks.
Yep. You get what you pay for. I recommend you take a look at the CB1100EX from Honda. Metal parts, wonderful seamless tank, long service interval and no corrosion. It does have a dodgy rear light though... Oh, and a lovely four cylinder air-cooled engine! I bought mine at 6 months old with a few hundred miles - for the price of a RE plus a few extras. And here she is... i.postimg.cc/0j0jwRpR/IMG-6307-2.jpg
that is a stomper of a bike Much better than a RE
Fabulous!
Beautiful bike, pity Honda don't bring this model into Australia
Nice bike apart from the low power output. The engine in these is strangulated and is capable of putting out much more. Shame really. It should be putting out around 110 hp easily and still give you plenty of low down punch. It would make the bike more exciting to ride as well.
@@fyorbane Not sure I can agree, but I guess it depends on what you want the bike for. To me, this is a bike for a relaxing ride rather than for screaming from corner to corner. For those purposes it has plenty of mid-range power. I do admit though - 88hp is not a massive amount from an 1140cc motor.
I went and saw one of these in a shop for the first time yesterday. I'm having one, they look absolutely ace!
Told you they were good!
Those rear lights really do need to go, they spoil a beautiful machine.
Shut up Meg
I sourced mine of ebay. Small led rear light using the original brackets. Light should be around 80 mm wide and about £25
Great video yours is in the best colours looks fantastic stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks 👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer Black is the best colour.
Hi TMF,
The service intervals are very short (the same on the Himalayan) especially doing the valves every second service. That would make me think twice before buying one. The rest I could live with.
Thanks for posting 👍🏍🎥.
Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
Screw and locknut. No special tools and simple to do. Many tutorials online
slightly more difficult than adjusting your chain 😊
@@STEVIEBSA it's only a check and adjust if necessary, not always do you have to adjust them, it may only be one or two certainly not all of them unless they were done wrong at some point. Mine needed one on the first service but it was so close I almost left it.
The service intervals on 99% of cars and bikes is always too long, I've never serviced anything according to the book, my car's get new oil at 5k and bikes are done every 1500-2000 depending on how many miles I do in that year. I flush the brake fluid every year as well. Most service items can we bought cheep if you buy larger quantities and shop around then do it yourself.
People always seem to moan about paying £30-50 to change the oil then spend £600-1000 on exhaust which makes them no quicker and brag about how many bhp it gave them, just remember a dirty air filter will rob bhp
@@rich.dodd1 totally agree,many people will think this is like a service with bucket n shims where as its a simple task to do at home . adjustment will be less necessary as time passes but if you look through the comments people are seeing a problem that's not there and are being put off buying a cracking bike .
Solvol Autosol for polishing your engine covers worked in the 70's and still does today.
Exactly what I used to do mine....
Plastic don’t go rusty , better plastic than cheap chromed metal parts , that’s how I view it , it’s a cheap good value for money 💰 compromise has to be made I guess , as they are way cheaper than triumph by a long chalk ,,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Excellent narration style.
Thank you kindly!
Andy I have an Interceptor (bought July 19) and agree with most of what you said especially the fugly rear light. I also love the bike and thankfully not seen signs of corrosion so I will keep an eye out. Great vid as always 👍
Cheers Andy - yes great fun bike aren’t they...will be gutted if that corrosion gets worse though....
My old Honda 500/4 many years ago (back in the 70's) we used to change oil & filter, adjust tappets check and adjust plugs and points, whether it needed it or not every 5000k. That machine in the background looks like an implement of torture
One thing I really love about this bike it is highly customizable platform so all these little niggles are really replaceable and easy to remedy with better quality aftermarket parts, you can really make it yours. Service interval do it yourself even valves easy nut adjustment. Learn it and save money in the long run. Simple and enjoyable bike that how it should be. Price is right. One more thing I think bike looks really nice 🙂. That how it should be bike with lovely engine in it that produces enough power and torque that sound great. Nothing else needed to hapiness just an open road.
The fuel indicator is also all over the place! It'll sometimes be on full and then 1/3 the next ride depending on the weather. Best if you just tack it in the trip meter and fuel up near the 200km mark
i thought i'd love it because my ducati doesnt have a gauge, only a low fuel warning. but the gauge on the re650 is absolute garbage. i've gotten the gauge to start blinking as early as only 90km on the odometer and i for sure know theres more fuel in there. i just have no idea how much. other times, the gauge just completely jumps around. one moment its at 3 bars, then the next its at like 7 bars.
What's wrong with plastic mudguards? At least they won't corrode and are light weight, they look ok as well.
Definitely agree. The quality issues are a deal breaker to me, especially the engine cases.
Well it is a cheap bike….
Guess what, I just got a call from the RE informing me that the motorcycle is ready and can be picked later today. I got the notification of your video around about the same time, also I had booked the same model (Baker Express) in March and I'm getting it now as it got stuck due to lockdown. :) Cheers from India!
Have fun and congrats!
Yes your right. About the rust. Got a GT650. Don't even want to ride it when raining. We can but we have to wash and dry it at once to prevent rusting.
There were complaints on the foot peg positioning as well. Good to know it's not a problem in ur case.
No I soon got used to it....
Some valid points there TMF especially service intervals/valve clearances,but on the plus side chocolate hobnobs,clearly a man with taste.👍🏻
I like to think so!
The Only thing I hate about this is, how do I not own one of these. Pretty soon I will, Thanks for yet another wonderful Video.
What bike is that again?
Thank you. Got worked up about buying one, but cannot live with a 3000 mile service interval.
Booked the Interceptor Baker Express yesterday, can't wait
Had to look up Laboutin after the crocks comment 👌, never stop learning!
You're playing Devil's Advocate here! Like you, I love my Interceptor, but bought the black one, so the tank seams aren't an issue. Personally, I wanted to make my bike look as retro as possible, so the rear light (like a Lucas 564, only bigger) was fine, but the indicators were changed to Lucas pattern units to match. The plastic mudguards are rust-free, but you can change them to alloy ones for about £200, which you will then have to polish with Solvol Autosol or similar, when you're doing the engine casings - all part of keeping a modern retro bike looking good. No, my biggest gripe ( like many other owners) is those wide rider footpegs that just seem to get in the way when you stop.
Yes I noticed that at first but quickly got used to it - like these others not really a major issue...
Great points . Got an RE and overall agree - I would add the tires and suspension as the most serious shortcoming .
I have to totally disagree with this, I think they are both great, the front could do with being a bit stiffer but apart from that I can't see them jumping out as shortcomings. I've been carving the bends 2 up and not an issue in sight.
The cheap indicators, seat cover, peg positions, keys and some of the chrome work are only things I will look into.
Another good videoTMF
Nice looking bike and great value for money, if I had room for another bike it would be a retro and would definitely consider the RE. Thanks TMF.
Same me
I do agree with you on the plasticky feel. But, I think that's one of the ways to keep the weight down. Surprised that you need to haul your bike to the SC every 3k miles. We have service intervals of 10k km here in India.
I think India doesn't get the 3yr warranty right?