one time in high school our kiln malfunctioned, melted/misshaped everyone’s pieces and turned them into a plasticky-glass-like substance. I still have a piece from that batch - it was supposed to be a mug, I jokingly call it the gravy boat now
If you don't have a kiln glazing horror story, are you even a potter? That's amazing. Did you ever figure out the malfunction? Did the kiln stay too hot for too long?
Now im curious how those plasticky glass like warped pieces beyond human comprehension look like; Seeing those pottering Videos here, I am kinda sad how the Pottery course i went to in middle school in germany, didnt actually teach a lot of things that seem so obvious now, like continuous work after the first drying period and and and. We just pottered a lot just by hand + tools, but no spinning weel. It wasnt really guided nor graded, but sad i didnt learn some standard procedures
@@janicerohrssen you could try getting some sort of a micrometer tool that could help you determine if you got the thickness right 🤷🏻♀️ it measures in millimeters 👍 it could be useful
you’ve just made me appreciate my (purchased) porcelain night light SO much more. it was a gift when i was little so i never thought much of it until now i actually do ceramics
Try this: Make the base part with the gray clay, let it dry, then pour in white porcelain slip to create an inner layer. When carving afterwards, you get a color indication for when you've carved almost all the way through.
@@janicerohrssen I truly hope it works (can't test it here for you). If it doesn't - I've seen someone make amazing swirl vases by coning, flattening, then fluting the clay on the wheel and back-filling with a different color. Maybe more difficult, but perhaps one can work a slab into the clay before forming the piece such that the slab ends up forming the inner wall. Whatever you make next, I'm looking forward to it :)
well crikey.. that was nerve-wracking in parts but inspiring throughout.. you must have been so chuffed with the final pot :) .. its 6.30am and this was quite a start to my day.. thanks for the video.. liked and subbed :)
As you know there has been a lot of work to make slip casting porcelain translucent and a really neat technique to make it even thinner than traditional slip casting is normally able to achieve is using is very tiny nylon fibres mixed into the slip. Creating a composite material almost like fibreglass, I’ve yet to try this method but there are plenty of journals and articles about it plus I was tipped off on it by a professor of ceramics at my university. I wonder if you could use that on the wheel to add strength and make the whole thing thinner so the carving is less dicy as well as lessen the warping in the kiln. I’ve not worked with porcelain much and never on the wheel (it’s not my specialty) but I do work in hand sculpture a lot and slip casting a little. So maybe if you are feeling like delving into translucence some more but don’t want to deal as much with porcelain’s melodramatic nature (I love porcelain but heavens it’s like a toddler throwing a tantrum sometimes) you might experiment with nylon or other fibres, as things like cotton burn off in the kiln unlike nylon. I also learned that that it’s much easier to achieve this translucency if you fire the porcelain unglazed. I actually find the ivory white warmth of unglazed porcelain really beautiful but it’s not for everyone and you do lose a lot of the gloss that comes with glazed porcelain admittedly. And incase my tone came off wrong I’m not trying to lecture you I just get really excited about ceramics particularly when people are working in the “path less traveled” and I feel compelled to share any knowledge I’ve pick up over the years. So if the tone comes off haughty just imagine it more like an over excited golden retriever. Very cool work, keep making awesome things with ceramics!! It’s such an amazing and ancient technology that people really don’t appreciate enough especially when one has enough skill to really make it sing or in your case shine
Wow, thank you for the insightful, helpful, kind comment! I would actually love to try working with other porcelain/porcelain composites to see how they would affect the light and thinness of the piece. I also really want to try slip casting - this nylon slip casting you mention is fascinating. Also, love the pun. ✨🥰
Beautiful! I imagine if this becomes more popular, one day this beauty you’ve brought into the world could be a standard seen in lanterns used for festivals of light - rather than the plastic direction they’re going in, imagine how beautiful this would be adorning doorsteps ✨
I have saved this to my “art” playlist. This was absolutely beautiful. But this is the artist’s journey: There are epiphanies and breakthroughs, troughs and peaks. Never let success haunt you: Remember that those successes aren’t what makes you, but you were what made the successes.
I do water etching with thrown Porcelain pieces all the time. I use Shellac as a resist and then wipe away the porcelain with a wet sponge. Add some more shellac to different areas and keep wiping away. This can give you really nice layers of design. You can also carve through the shellac in a final step to put detail in your design.
Watching this process I kept thinking "ah yes, a fellow masochist". Usually I make things way more detailed and complicated than other people think is sensible. But now I see I am not the only one.
The problem is the porcelain and the firing temperature. It doesn't sound like you have much control over thosse two factors since it is not your studio. But look up "Mutton Fat Porcelain". Porcelain doesn't have to be super thin in order to be translucent.
That porcelain looks amazing. Do you know if there's a supplier that sells that in the UK or Taiwan? I couldn't find any in my quick search. Would be interested in trying it.
@JYRCeramics You won't be able to get it unless you somehow source it from China Jingdezhen or Dehua. The artists and manufacturers mix their only porcelain with their own recipes, but generally, for the mutton fat look, they use a mixture of high Kaolin and Boron flux (or other high temp flux) ratio and fire it at cone 10+ temperatures. The flux and high temperature more or less vitrifies the porcelain to the point where the clay body acts as it's own glaze. This is what allows it to achieve the look. Rarely will a community studio allow firings that high because only porcelain and colbat can survive those types of firings. It sounds like you are using cone 6 porcelain, which is probably why you are having such a difficult time. There are some that do advertise themselves as high translucency cone 6 porcelain, but in my experience, they are only marginally better. While your technique isn't perfect, (you can be waaay more aggressive with your trimming) the clay body and firing temp you are working with will ultimately be your limiting factor.
@@StuninRub Yeah, interesting. I think I will try to make it to Jingdezhen in the next few years so maybe I'll find a factory and ship myself some. And yes, we are firing to cone 6. But my new studio in London will fire to cone 9, so I'm excited to try some new porcelains!
Is this how rice grain tea cups are made I hade a few and I loved loved loved them! Unfortunately a few boxes never made it home after it left with the moving company I’m so so so happy you made this video thank you! I loved those cups but omg I love love love this! Thank you 🙏🏻
Je crois que pour les grains de riz,on fait les trous(futurs grains),et c'est la couverte /email,qui nappera et donc bouchera tres finement.Ceci assurera la transparence.😂
Rice grain tea cups are sooooo beautiful. I'm sad with you that some didn't make it in your move. :( But I think for those, they poke the holes all the way out, then fill the small holes with transparent glaze, so slightly different.
@@janicerohrssen Could you combine these techniques? For instance, if you accidentally poke a small hole while carving, could you either 1. Fill it with glaze, or 2. Fill it with slip, depending on the size of the hole? I'm picturing backing the hole with paper, and dabbing very small drops of slip on top until you get the thickness you want. Sorta a combo of slip casting and the rice grain cup method, might make the carving stage slightly less nerve-wracking? Cool video, thanks!
@@simontw8618 Yes! I actually did something like this in this video: ua-cam.com/video/khzcNKqiBWY/v-deo.htmlsi=uRWFvIhLTvjd9Bum. But yes, definitely possible to fix holes if I poke them!
I know absolutely nothing about pottery and watched this enthralled like a NatGeo documentary. Your narration and editing is great and I loved learning about this!
Your work’s stunning! It reminds me of the Lithophane! That’s made from fine Chinese porcelain and features an eye-catching lithophane design. Lithophane is an etched or moulded artwork in thin very translucent porcelain that can only be seen clearly when backlit with a light source, in this case a tealight. The lithophane design is repeated around the whole of the tealight holder. Finished in white and unglazed porcelain this tealight holder comes to life once lit creating a warm and atmospheric light. Your work is glazed
I love pottery. Such an ancient and lasting medium to work with. I dug up and filtered a batch of natural clay from my backyard when I was a kid, and Im teaching it to my kids now. We have an outdoor firepit that I will use as a platform for our makeshift kiln once we make something we want to keep.
Your video was extremely interesting. I've been making luminarias with all kinds of materials (paper, cardboard, plastic, wood) but I haven't created pottery since I studied art in grad school in the 1970s. While watching your efforts I brainstormed dozens of impossible ways to do this. It's too bad that clear glaze doesn't come in stick-on sheets, I thought, so you could carve holes and place those sheets on the inside. Or if there were a way to insert a glass the exact size of the inside, it might fuse to the glaze. Or would it work with smaller designs? But you got there at the end with a remarkable and beautiful result. Your perseverance paid off.
Dang they really just assumed you were done like that. I'd be so mad. You have much more patience than me, and so much skill as well! It looks amazing!
One time an instructor took the covering off of all my unfinished pieces that were going to be Christmas gifts and let them go to bone dry. I hadn't trimmed any of them and had planned to carve them. I was so upset. Had to shop for gifts instead.
This is the first video of yours that I’ve ever watched, and I’m already hooked at 1:44 minutes in. I’m so glad I came across your channel! Fastest subscribe ever.
Victory! Congratulations, it’s gorgeous and you are one heck of an artist. of course, I thought that if a tea light wasn’t bright enough to show through, a small LED could be the way to go. They are much brighter, and in some situations, preferable. You don’t have to worry about leaving fire unattended that way.
Yes, definitely, a small LED would work great. And if I could get the color of the LED to be warmer, that really would capture what I was trying to do here, I think. But there's just something special about a candle 🥰
I know this is really innocuous but I love the way you do your subtitles (personally my fav setting on anything I'm watching). The font, the colors of clay, the slow pacing, the structure of the story-all of it just adds to the video. I rarely find myself as focused on longer videos as I am with yours
That means so much, thank you!! I consider every aspect of the video from the captions (font and size and shadow and time on screen) to the music, and these videos take much, much longer to make than the clay itself, so I really appreciate you watching and your kind thoughts on the cinematography of it! ✨🥰
Beautiful results! I so admire your persistence- love clay, ginkos and delicate celadon porcelains. When I was a child I remember my grandmother had some bowls with a translucent rice grain pattern that seemed extremely special and made a great impression on me. I'm thinking when you were finally able to make the clay do what you wanted, the glaze helped "hold it together". I wish I was still working with clay- I always prefer doing the types of art where I have my hands directly in contact with the materials.
Thank you so much for this meticulous, step-by-step, documentary of your journey. Your skill and patience will take you far in the pottery arts, but your narrative and cinematography will sweep you even higher.
How stunning! I have a little set of Chinese bowls and spoons that I found in a charity shop, and I only realised once I got them home that they have translucent dots that glow when you hold them up to the light. I don't know for sure how it was done, but I think they may be thin areas like on your piece. I knew that ceramic vitrifies at higher temperatures, but I never added up what that meant, that translucent porcelain is a kind of glass.
Big pieces of porcelain will be easier to make with very thin walls. They did it in The Netherlands around 1900 at the Rosenburg factory The Hague. They called it egg-shell porcelain. It's world famous and it gained the first prive and the gold medal at the 1900 Universal Exhibition in Paris.
You did a great job at keeping the thickness of the porcelain even on that last one! Maybe in the future try a coil of wadding on the inside to keep the piece up high enough to allow the celadon to drip off onto the shelf, or carve a place that will catch the runoff and pool at the bottom of the lamp. That way you won't get a big flat drip at the bottom like you have in one spot. You did great though! Making your porcelain thin enough to go translucent isn't easy! Oh! Also, try Frost porcelain by Laguna if you haven't yet. It makes the job so much easier!
It's so good! It can also make a nice slip for casting which allows for some super thin walls of an even thickness. I made some hanging lights that way out of a golf ball mold from one of my dad's golf balls. I just used a string of LED lights to connect them to, and they are so pretty. Anyway, that's all. :)
A small helping tip, try using a shop light but (led) so it's not putting off heat and set it in your pottery could help with judging thickness in the clay
This is amazing. What a good piece of work! So detailed and softly made. Incredible. Love to watch master work. If I had a chance I would even buy this work. This is so beautiful
What a wonderful job. I am from Colombia, South America. Our local porcelain has exactly the same characteristics. It is very difficult to make objects with thin walls on the wheel. I congratulate you. To give transparencies I mix it with paper pulp.
Congrats on your finished product, it is very beautiful and I can hear in your voice real commitment to achieve success in your vision and such joy to see it all work out. Well done. I have a question, I'm not a potter but enjoy watching, would the pedals be able to be taped over prior the glaze dunk (possibly leaving those areas thinner and maybe more leaf like) or would that make for an unstable item in the kiln?
Yeah, great question. It is definitely possible, and while I'm not certain, my suspicion is that it wouldn't affect the stability when firing. I don't know that I'd personally love the look, though - because those parts would be very matte compared to the rest of the piece. Interesting potential experiment, though!
Your pottery style and pieces are admirable. I'm not at your level in terms of pottery skills. When I make larger pieces, I always use a torch; it helps a lot to reduce the wall thickness. I look forward to more videos from you. Best regards, Bernhard from Austria"
Thank you so much! I also feel like I have a long way to go with pottery, so we're in the same boat! A torch is always super helpful and so much fun haha 🤍
Beautiful, your persistence has paid off. I love playing with Translucent porcelain as well. We fire to cone around 10, reduction gas kiln. What do you fire to?
Amazing final result! Have you looked at the mutton fat jade porcelain teaware coming out of Dehua? I assume they make it from a mold as you mention to be able to manufacter it, but it's unglazed and very translucent to the point I can the level and color of tea in some peices.
Porcelain has always been super responsive fir me. Im not sure what you're using, but sounds like there's a lack of bentonite in it! Or were you using a porcelaneous stoneware? I tried the PF700 from Valentine clays and it was dreadful, and stained after cone 10 vitrification. It was like trying to work with a low quality earthenware.
Hey Janice, I'm just getting into pottery but I wanted to ask, don't we have to ensure that the side walls of any piece are thick enough so they won't break or crack in the kiln when firing? How do you ensure that this won't happen when making the walls so thin like this, or when carving out a design? Also, if I decide to cut a design through the side walls so there are holes that go through the piece, when firing it, how do I make sure it doesn't crack/break?
Great questions! Usually, cracking has more to do with uneven drying than thickness of walls. And thinner walls are less likely to have uneven drying than thicker ones. The greater fear with thinner walls is warping and collapsing when firing. It mostly depends on the clay and the kiln. If you're firing to Cone 5/6 (lower temps than 9/10), thinner walls are less like to have issues. Different clays, with different amounts of grog, also have different properties when it comes to firing (eg. how much they shrink, etc). If you start with a good beginner clay (like white stoneware that has some grog in it), you'll have fewer problems in firing and can learn how to use clay well. Then you can experiment with clays that are a bit more temperamental, like porcelain. If you need help finding a good beginner clay body, you can ask your local studio or your local clay store and they should have a good recommendation. As for carving, as long as your piece is thick enough (I'd estimate ~5-7mm before firing?), it should be totally fine when firing. Hope that helps!
@@janicerohrssen If you could that would be epic, I was just thinking about a lantern made of clay that used the reflectiveness of the glaze to direct light. now that you mention vertical panes, I wonder if you could make some kind of zoetrope effect with the way flames dance side-to-side. You'd know better than me what is possible, I just dream. ;)
Could you try using a marker to sketch onto the piece? The soft tip shouldn't dent the piece, and the marks should burn away in the kiln, if there's even any left after carving.
🎉 congratulations Janice 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I've only just found your channel and I've got to say it is binge worthy! New subbie! Thanks for sharing your journey so far as I'm just beginning mine; and promptly shattered my shoulder (saved my life, but that is another story 😊) so I cannot do anything major in my clay work but I am enjoying learning so much via YTU 😂 🎨 Art'On 🎨 Ange
That's a great idea! I never considered using calipers to measure the thickness (ones that can measure on both ends simultaneously might work). Thanks for that!
im just curious if you could test the light passage thru the porcelain with a phone light before firing if that would give you any helpful indicator of the thinnness
We have these noodle bowls from the chinese general store and they have these rice shaped translucent spots in it :3 the effects arent very large though so it might have been easier than doing what you're trying to accomplish
I think that might help it not warp while carving... But it would be very hard to feel the thickness so I'd be more likely to go all the way through it, I think. Great suggestion, though.
I live for this kind of experimentation to reach an idea that we had at some point. It was awesome to watch. A comment I have to make though. I didn't notice the subtitles until 70% through the video... Then they became a glaring distraction. I think they're better left in the captions tool instead of absolutely baked into the video.
would it work if you d made the leaves as extremely thin as possible and then fill them with transparent glaze? so that it might make the paper thin leaves more stronger but still translucent
yes, i think so! i could paint the celadon glaze over the parts that aren't the leaves and then dip the whole piece in clear. but it would be a lot more work
Thank you so much!! Getting light to shine through will not work for air dry clay, unfortunately. It doesn't have the properties porcelain does to make it work. You could carve holes for it to work!
im sure ur more experienced than i, but in my pottery class we used to spray pieces down and bag them in plastic if they dried too early. that way the next day u can trim wetter clay rather than bone dry
yes, that's exactly what you should do! I could actually have soaked the whole thing then put it in an airtight container for it to re-moisten, but I was in a bit of a rush by that point.
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one time in high school our kiln malfunctioned, melted/misshaped everyone’s pieces and turned them into a plasticky-glass-like substance. I still have a piece from that batch - it was supposed to be a mug, I jokingly call it the gravy boat now
If you don't have a kiln glazing horror story, are you even a potter? That's amazing. Did you ever figure out the malfunction? Did the kiln stay too hot for too long?
Now im curious how those plasticky glass like warped pieces beyond human comprehension look like;
Seeing those pottering Videos here, I am kinda sad how the Pottery course i went to in middle school in germany, didnt actually teach a lot of things that seem so obvious now, like continuous work after the first drying period and and and.
We just pottered a lot just by hand + tools, but no spinning weel. It wasnt really guided nor graded, but sad i didnt learn some standard procedures
You are so good. Persistence always pays off. Pottery is a craft. Some potters turn it into art. You are an artist.
Thank you so much! I love that pottery can be both craft and art. 🤍
at what point does it become an art?
@@hairyballbastic8943 that's a matter of taste
@@janicerohrssen you could try getting some sort of a micrometer tool that could help you determine if you got the thickness right 🤷🏻♀️ it measures in millimeters 👍 it could be useful
Very beautiful pieces though 👍💕😁
you’ve just made me appreciate my (purchased) porcelain night light SO much more. it was a gift when i was little so i never thought much of it until now i actually do ceramics
Yes!! I love that delving deep into a craft can help us appreciate it so much more. 🤍🤍
Try this:
Make the base part with the gray clay, let it dry, then pour in white porcelain slip to create an inner layer. When carving afterwards, you get a color indication for when you've carved almost all the way through.
That is a brilliant idea!! Thanks for contributing it!
@@janicerohrssen I truly hope it works (can't test it here for you). If it doesn't - I've seen someone make amazing swirl vases by coning, flattening, then fluting the clay on the wheel and back-filling with a different color.
Maybe more difficult, but perhaps one can work a slab into the clay before forming the piece such that the slab ends up forming the inner wall.
Whatever you make next, I'm looking forward to it :)
Wouldn't there be issues with shrinkage rates? I work with both stoneware and porcelain and porcelain shrinks ~10% more than the stoneware I use.
well crikey.. that was nerve-wracking in parts but inspiring throughout.. you must have been so chuffed with the final pot :) .. its 6.30am and this was quite a start to my day.. thanks for the video.. liked and subbed :)
wow, what kind words! 🫶🏼🫶🏼 thank you for that!
As you know there has been a lot of work to make slip casting porcelain translucent and a really neat technique to make it even thinner than traditional slip casting is normally able to achieve is using is very tiny nylon fibres mixed into the slip. Creating a composite material almost like fibreglass, I’ve yet to try this method but there are plenty of journals and articles about it plus I was tipped off on it by a professor of ceramics at my university. I wonder if you could use that on the wheel to add strength and make the whole thing thinner so the carving is less dicy as well as lessen the warping in the kiln. I’ve not worked with porcelain much and never on the wheel (it’s not my specialty) but I do work in hand sculpture a lot and slip casting a little. So maybe if you are feeling like delving into translucence some more but don’t want to deal as much with porcelain’s melodramatic nature (I love porcelain but heavens it’s like a toddler throwing a tantrum sometimes) you might experiment with nylon or other fibres, as things like cotton burn off in the kiln unlike nylon. I also learned that that it’s much easier to achieve this translucency if you fire the porcelain unglazed. I actually find the ivory white warmth of unglazed porcelain really beautiful but it’s not for everyone and you do lose a lot of the gloss that comes with glazed porcelain admittedly. And incase my tone came off wrong I’m not trying to lecture you I just get really excited about ceramics particularly when people are working in the “path less traveled” and I feel compelled to share any knowledge I’ve pick up over the years. So if the tone comes off haughty just imagine it more like an over excited golden retriever.
Very cool work, keep making awesome things with ceramics!! It’s such an amazing and ancient technology that people really don’t appreciate enough especially when one has enough skill to really make it sing or in your case shine
Wow, thank you for the insightful, helpful, kind comment! I would actually love to try working with other porcelain/porcelain composites to see how they would affect the light and thinness of the piece. I also really want to try slip casting - this nylon slip casting you mention is fascinating. Also, love the pun. ✨🥰
it helps if you heat the mold slightly and have a hair dryer to pop the slip out
Beautiful! I imagine if this becomes more popular, one day this beauty you’ve brought into the world could be a standard seen in lanterns used for festivals of light - rather than the plastic direction they’re going in, imagine how beautiful this would be adorning doorsteps ✨
Wow, what a beautiful vision!! That would be absolutely amazing.
Its such a triumph to finally see the end results! I'm so happy to see your dedication here.
Thank you!! I love aiming for hard things and trying again and again until I get it just right. 🤍🤍
I have saved this to my “art” playlist. This was absolutely beautiful. But this is the artist’s journey: There are epiphanies and breakthroughs, troughs and peaks. Never let success haunt you: Remember that those successes aren’t what makes you, but you were what made the successes.
Wow, thank you so much for those kind words! And love those thoughts about the artist's journey. 🫶🏼🫶🏼
WOW! What an accomplishment! I'm so glad you didn't give up. :)
Me too! Thanks for your kind words! 🫶🏼
If you decide to pursue this further, you might find water engraving to be a good option. Beautiful work so far.
Oooo! I'm unfamiliar with the technique, but it looks quite fun! I would definitely like to try it! Thank you for the suggestion! 💖
I do water etching with thrown Porcelain pieces all the time. I use Shellac as a resist and then wipe away the porcelain with a wet sponge. Add some more shellac to different areas and keep wiping away. This can give you really nice layers of design. You can also carve through the shellac in a final step to put detail in your design.
Watching this process I kept thinking "ah yes, a fellow masochist". Usually I make things way more detailed and complicated than other people think is sensible. But now I see I am not the only one.
We're all in this together
The problem is the porcelain and the firing temperature. It doesn't sound like you have much control over thosse two factors since it is not your studio. But look up "Mutton Fat Porcelain". Porcelain doesn't have to be super thin in order to be translucent.
That porcelain looks amazing. Do you know if there's a supplier that sells that in the UK or Taiwan? I couldn't find any in my quick search. Would be interested in trying it.
@JYRCeramics You won't be able to get it unless you somehow source it from China Jingdezhen or Dehua. The artists and manufacturers mix their only porcelain with their own recipes, but generally, for the mutton fat look, they use a mixture of high Kaolin and Boron flux (or other high temp flux) ratio and fire it at cone 10+ temperatures. The flux and high temperature more or less vitrifies the porcelain to the point where the clay body acts as it's own glaze. This is what allows it to achieve the look. Rarely will a community studio allow firings that high because only porcelain and colbat can survive those types of firings. It sounds like you are using cone 6 porcelain, which is probably why you are having such a difficult time.
There are some that do advertise themselves as high translucency cone 6 porcelain, but in my experience, they are only marginally better. While your technique isn't perfect, (you can be waaay more aggressive with your trimming) the clay body and firing temp you are working with will ultimately be your limiting factor.
@@StuninRub Yeah, interesting. I think I will try to make it to Jingdezhen in the next few years so maybe I'll find a factory and ship myself some. And yes, we are firing to cone 6. But my new studio in London will fire to cone 9, so I'm excited to try some new porcelains!
Is this how rice grain tea cups are made I hade a few and I loved loved loved them! Unfortunately a few boxes never made it home after it left with the moving company I’m so so so happy you made this video thank you! I loved those cups but omg I love love love this! Thank you 🙏🏻
Je crois que pour les grains de riz,on fait les trous(futurs grains),et c'est la couverte /email,qui nappera et donc bouchera tres finement.Ceci assurera la transparence.😂
Rice grain tea cups are sooooo beautiful. I'm sad with you that some didn't make it in your move. :( But I think for those, they poke the holes all the way out, then fill the small holes with transparent glaze, so slightly different.
@@janicerohrssen Could you combine these techniques? For instance, if you accidentally poke a small hole while carving, could you either 1. Fill it with glaze, or 2. Fill it with slip, depending on the size of the hole? I'm picturing backing the hole with paper, and dabbing very small drops of slip on top until you get the thickness you want. Sorta a combo of slip casting and the rice grain cup method, might make the carving stage slightly less nerve-wracking?
Cool video, thanks!
@@simontw8618 Yes! I actually did something like this in this video: ua-cam.com/video/khzcNKqiBWY/v-deo.htmlsi=uRWFvIhLTvjd9Bum. But yes, definitely possible to fix holes if I poke them!
I know absolutely nothing about pottery and watched this enthralled like a NatGeo documentary.
Your narration and editing is great and I loved learning about this!
Wow, thank you! Appreciate those very kind words! 🤍🤍
Your work’s stunning! It reminds me of the Lithophane! That’s made from fine Chinese porcelain and features an eye-catching lithophane design. Lithophane is an etched or moulded artwork in thin very translucent porcelain that can only be seen clearly when backlit with a light source, in this case a tealight. The lithophane design is repeated around the whole of the tealight holder. Finished in white and unglazed porcelain this tealight holder comes to life once lit creating a warm and atmospheric light. Your work is glazed
Lithophane is gorgeous!! They make some incredible designs!
I love pottery. Such an ancient and lasting medium to work with. I dug up and filtered a batch of natural clay from my backyard when I was a kid, and Im teaching it to my kids now. We have an outdoor firepit that I will use as a platform for our makeshift kiln once we make something we want to keep.
Wow!! That is so cool!! I love that you can just dig up clay and turn it into art. Thanks for sharing! Hope you make something you love soon!
I happened across your video randomly and I've got to say that is some brilliant work! Beautiful and such perseverance too. Keep up the good work! ❤
Thank you so much! 🤍🤍
Exquisite piece ❤
Also, masterful video editing to show the challenge and drama of the process 😊
Thank you so much! For both of those comments!! 🥰💖
Your video was extremely interesting.
I've been making luminarias with all kinds of materials (paper, cardboard, plastic, wood) but I haven't created pottery since I studied art in grad school in the 1970s. While watching your efforts I brainstormed dozens of impossible ways to do this. It's too bad that clear glaze doesn't come in stick-on sheets, I thought, so you could carve holes and place those sheets on the inside. Or if there were a way to insert a glass the exact size of the inside, it might fuse to the glaze. Or would it work with smaller designs?
But you got there at the end with a remarkable and beautiful result. Your perseverance paid off.
It turned out so gorgeous, and your persistence is inspiring
Thank you!! So glad you appreciate it! 🥰🥰
Dang they really just assumed you were done like that. I'd be so mad. You have much more patience than me, and so much skill as well! It looks amazing!
They do so much for me, it's hard to get upset. And thank you so much! 🤍
One time an instructor took the covering off of all my unfinished pieces that were going to be Christmas gifts and let them go to bone dry. I hadn't trimmed any of them and had planned to carve them. I was so upset. Had to shop for gifts instead.
wow this is beautiful! and so cool to see the process :)
Thank you so much! Glad you appreciate the process!! 💖💖
This is the first video of yours that I’ve ever watched, and I’m already hooked at 1:44 minutes in. I’m so glad I came across your channel! Fastest subscribe ever.
🫶🏼✨🥰 grateful for you!
Victory! Congratulations, it’s gorgeous and you are one heck of an artist. of course, I thought that if a tea light wasn’t bright enough to show through, a small LED could be the way to go. They are much brighter, and in some situations, preferable. You don’t have to worry about leaving fire unattended that way.
Yes, definitely, a small LED would work great. And if I could get the color of the LED to be warmer, that really would capture what I was trying to do here, I think. But there's just something special about a candle 🥰
I really like the style of this video. A very informative and relaxing watch. Thanks for sharing your journey towards glass-like porcelain!
So glad you enjoyed it!
I know this is really innocuous but I love the way you do your subtitles (personally my fav setting on anything I'm watching). The font, the colors of clay, the slow pacing, the structure of the story-all of it just adds to the video. I rarely find myself as focused on longer videos as I am with yours
That means so much, thank you!! I consider every aspect of the video from the captions (font and size and shadow and time on screen) to the music, and these videos take much, much longer to make than the clay itself, so I really appreciate you watching and your kind thoughts on the cinematography of it! ✨🥰
It’s a beautiful piece. I like the premise of the craft.
Thank you very much! 🤍
Beautiful results! I so admire your persistence- love clay, ginkos and delicate celadon porcelains. When I was a child I remember my grandmother had some bowls with a translucent rice grain pattern that seemed extremely special and made a great impression on me. I'm thinking when you were finally able to make the clay do what you wanted, the glaze helped "hold it together". I wish I was still working with clay- I always prefer doing the types of art where I have my hands directly in contact with the materials.
Thank you so much! I love how pottery can have such generational and emotional impact.
Incredible work. Thank you very much for sharing it. I have never made pottery but I understand all the passion invested behind it...❤
Incredible and underrated ceramic channel.
Thank you so much!!
Congatulation for your patience. It did worth all the work. ❤
Thank you so much!! 😊
Congratulations! Your effort was not in vain, in the end you succeed and get this impressive piece of clay/glass 😊
Hehe thank you so much!
Fun project details, I really liked learning about your tests and the final product. You have a lot of skills to create great things!
Thank you so much for those kind words!!
The time & work you put into it proved to be well worth the effort. ❤
Thank you so much! 🤍
It’s absolutely stunning!!! And your patience is to die for!!! ❤
Thank you so much for this meticulous, step-by-step, documentary of your journey. Your skill and patience will take you far in the pottery arts, but your narrative and cinematography will sweep you even higher.
Wow, thank you so much for these incredible words! They mean a lot, as the narration and cinematography take even longer than the pottery process. 🫶🏼
How stunning! I have a little set of Chinese bowls and spoons that I found in a charity shop, and I only realised once I got them home that they have translucent dots that glow when you hold them up to the light. I don't know for sure how it was done, but I think they may be thin areas like on your piece. I knew that ceramic vitrifies at higher temperatures, but I never added up what that meant, that translucent porcelain is a kind of glass.
I think that's Rice Grain Porcelain! Such beautiful things 🤍
This was beautiful. I'm glad your patience and hard work paid off. I don't think I could have this much patience and steady hands😅
Thank you so much! It definitely requires a lot of patience! But worth it!
Big pieces of porcelain will be easier to make with very thin walls. They did it in The Netherlands around 1900 at the Rosenburg factory The Hague. They called it egg-shell porcelain. It's world famous and it gained the first prive and the gold medal at the 1900 Universal Exhibition in Paris.
thats so cool thanks for the info!!
I love the sound of "egg-shell porcelain." Would love to get my hands on some to experiment with!
Your videos are amazing too but your comments are all so thoughtful and nice too. ❤
I have THE BEST comments section of anyone on UA-cam, truly. I'm so lucky and grateful for you all. 🤍🤍
all of the pieces are stunning! so cool to watch your process!
Thank you so much! 🫶🏼 So glad you like them!
Incrível, ficou lindo, fiz cerâmica uma época e nunca pensei nisso, adorei.
Thank you so much!! 💖
Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your process.
You did a great job at keeping the thickness of the porcelain even on that last one! Maybe in the future try a coil of wadding on the inside to keep the piece up high enough to allow the celadon to drip off onto the shelf, or carve a place that will catch the runoff and pool at the bottom of the lamp. That way you won't get a big flat drip at the bottom like you have in one spot. You did great though! Making your porcelain thin enough to go translucent isn't easy! Oh! Also, try Frost porcelain by Laguna if you haven't yet. It makes the job so much easier!
Thank you for those suggestions!! Will definitely consider them for the future. I really want to try Laguna Frost.
It's so good! It can also make a nice slip for casting which allows for some super thin walls of an even thickness. I made some hanging lights that way out of a golf ball mold from one of my dad's golf balls. I just used a string of LED lights to connect them to, and they are so pretty.
Anyway, that's all. :)
A small helping tip, try using a shop light but (led) so it's not putting off heat and set it in your pottery could help with judging thickness in the clay
Thanks for sharing that tip!
Incredible piece! This is the type of stuff you could do a PhD thesis on
If I were in school for ceramics, I would LOVE to do a thesis on this. Or something along the lines of clay bodies, light, and glazes.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 fantastic work!
that's some pretty cool stuff there! way to innovate!!
Thank you! Cheers! ✨
Was mesmerised by the process while finishing off my crochet project at the same time. Amazing work, made me want to get back to sculpting & pottery!
I used to love knitting while watching a show or commuting, so love that you watched my video while you finished your project! 🤍
This is amazing. What a good piece of work! So detailed and softly made. Incredible. Love to watch master work.
If I had a chance I would even buy this work. This is so beautiful
Wow, thank you so much for those generous words! Really appreciate the love. 🤍
What a wonderful job. I am from Colombia, South America. Our local porcelain has exactly the same characteristics. It is very difficult to make objects with thin walls on the wheel. I congratulate you. To give transparencies I mix it with paper pulp.
Oh, that's a great idea! Thanks for sharing! 🤍
Wow, amazing! 😱🎉 incredible how you have to go by intuition alone on how thin the petals are. Awesome work 🙌🏼
Right?! If someone knows a better way, please let me know! And thank you very much!
Congrats on your finished product, it is very beautiful and I can hear in your voice real commitment to achieve success in your vision and such joy to see it all work out. Well done. I have a question, I'm not a potter but enjoy watching, would the pedals be able to be taped over prior the glaze dunk (possibly leaving those areas thinner and maybe more leaf like) or would that make for an unstable item in the kiln?
Yeah, great question. It is definitely possible, and while I'm not certain, my suspicion is that it wouldn't affect the stability when firing. I don't know that I'd personally love the look, though - because those parts would be very matte compared to the rest of the piece. Interesting potential experiment, though!
Beautiful, thanks for sharing this journey with us!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching it!
I wonder if this will work on other type of clay. Time to find out! Thank you for bringing inspiration to all of us
Your pottery style and pieces are admirable. I'm not at your level in terms of pottery skills. When I make larger pieces, I always use a torch; it helps a lot to reduce the wall thickness. I look forward to more videos from you. Best regards, Bernhard from Austria"
Thank you so much! I also feel like I have a long way to go with pottery, so we're in the same boat! A torch is always super helpful and so much fun haha 🤍
That is stunning! So glad you stuck with it....failed your way to success! Kudos!
Yes!! And thank you!
so cool i wish i could make this magical of a piece. thank u!!!
Amazing, absolutely beautiful! Congratulations, that was a hard thing to pull off.
Thank you!! ✨✨
Beautiful, your persistence has paid off. I love playing with Translucent porcelain as well. We fire to cone around 10, reduction gas kiln. What do you fire to?
Thank you! This was to cone 6. My new studio fires to cone 8/9, and I definitely notice a difference.
such a great and inspiring process to watch!
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing final result! Have you looked at the mutton fat jade porcelain teaware coming out of Dehua?
I assume they make it from a mold as you mention to be able to manufacter it, but it's unglazed and very translucent to the point I can the level and color of tea in some peices.
I had not seen that! It looks really interesting! Not sure how to buy the raw porcelain, though?
I loved being told as a child to achieve something similar, you put rice grains in the porcelain and that burns away leaving a transparent design.
Yes!! Those designs are so beautiful!
Thank you for sharing your vision and thoughts on your processes. Congratulations on achieving your goal. The result is exquisite!!
thank you!!
Porcelain has always been super responsive fir me. Im not sure what you're using, but sounds like there's a lack of bentonite in it!
Or were you using a porcelaneous stoneware? I tried the PF700 from Valentine clays and it was dreadful, and stained after cone 10 vitrification. It was like trying to work with a low quality earthenware.
Beautiful! thank you for posting. I love this
Thanks for watching! 💖
this is absolutely gorgeous
thank you so much! 🥰
Ha! I have too been doing this exact same thing as I also make candles and wanted to make my own vessels that glow the images with the light 🫠
Amazing! I hope you get the results you're looking for!
WOOOO!! i was so excited to see this video in my feed. congrats on making it work, it looks lovely!!!
Hope you enjoyed it!!! 🤍🤍
😊😊😊 LINDO...lindo....perfeito...você é incrível! Adoro a transparência! Amei...obrigada.
Do Brasil 🇧🇷 São Paulo ❤
Muito obrigada!!
You have a lot of patience. I would give up trying to do it behind a potter's wheel and try another way, like casting into plaster molds.
I love wheel throwing. 🥰 But I would love to play with molds in the future.
Really lovely video :) thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!! Really appreciate the comments 🤍🤍
It’s alive !! She created a magical piece..is giving people hope and to know to never give up if you believe in something do it
Yes!! Always push for what you believe is possible, even if incredibly difficult!
Hey Janice, I'm just getting into pottery but I wanted to ask, don't we have to ensure that the side walls of any piece are thick enough so they won't break or crack in the kiln when firing? How do you ensure that this won't happen when making the walls so thin like this, or when carving out a design? Also, if I decide to cut a design through the side walls so there are holes that go through the piece, when firing it, how do I make sure it doesn't crack/break?
Great questions! Usually, cracking has more to do with uneven drying than thickness of walls. And thinner walls are less likely to have uneven drying than thicker ones. The greater fear with thinner walls is warping and collapsing when firing.
It mostly depends on the clay and the kiln. If you're firing to Cone 5/6 (lower temps than 9/10), thinner walls are less like to have issues. Different clays, with different amounts of grog, also have different properties when it comes to firing (eg. how much they shrink, etc). If you start with a good beginner clay (like white stoneware that has some grog in it), you'll have fewer problems in firing and can learn how to use clay well. Then you can experiment with clays that are a bit more temperamental, like porcelain. If you need help finding a good beginner clay body, you can ask your local studio or your local clay store and they should have a good recommendation.
As for carving, as long as your piece is thick enough (I'd estimate ~5-7mm before firing?), it should be totally fine when firing.
Hope that helps!
Congratulaciones to your accomplishment! Bravo!
Thank you so much! ✨
Congratulations! This is so cool
Thank you so much! 🤍
Absolutely stunning 😍
Thank you! Cheers!
I wonder if you could make a hooded lantern type piece and polish/facet the insides to direct light from a flame.
Ooo that's interesting. So more vertical panes instead of designs?
@@janicerohrssen If you could that would be epic, I was just thinking about a lantern made of clay that used the reflectiveness of the glaze to direct light. now that you mention vertical panes, I wonder if you could make some kind of zoetrope effect with the way flames dance side-to-side. You'd know better than me what is possible, I just dream. ;)
Absolutely amazing! I love listening to your process
Thank you so much! 🥰
Could you try using a marker to sketch onto the piece? The soft tip shouldn't dent the piece, and the marks should burn away in the kiln, if there's even any left after carving.
🎉 congratulations Janice 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I've only just found your channel and I've got to say it is binge worthy! New subbie! Thanks for sharing your journey so far as I'm just beginning mine; and promptly shattered my shoulder (saved my life, but that is another story 😊) so I cannot do anything major in my clay work but I am enjoying learning so much via YTU 😂
🎨 Art'On 🎨
Ange
Wow, thank you so much!! I hope your shoulder heals well and fully soon! Sending love 🫶🏼🫶🏼
This is so amazing 🥲
Incredible!
Amazing. And you could make a tool to mesure the thickness of your walls for better repeatability. 👍
That's a great idea! I never considered using calipers to measure the thickness (ones that can measure on both ends simultaneously might work). Thanks for that!
im just curious if you could test the light passage thru the porcelain with a phone light before firing if that would give you any helpful indicator of the thinnness
No, unfortunately. I talk briefly at 15:03 about why that doesn't work
@@janicerohrssen ah
It's lovely!!!
1:23 A smash and a yell. At 2x speed, it sounds like the noise for throwing potion bottles in Minecraft.
hahaha
We have these noodle bowls from the chinese general store and they have these rice shaped translucent spots in it :3 the effects arent very large though so it might have been easier than doing what you're trying to accomplish
I love those Rice Grain Porcelain designs.
Would it help at all to have a cylinder inside the jar while carving so that you are less likely to rupture while carving?
I think that might help it not warp while carving... But it would be very hard to feel the thickness so I'd be more likely to go all the way through it, I think. Great suggestion, though.
Super beautiful ❣️😍
Thank you! Cheers!
I live for this kind of experimentation to reach an idea that we had at some point. It was awesome to watch.
A comment I have to make though. I didn't notice the subtitles until 70% through the video... Then they became a glaring distraction. I think they're better left in the captions tool instead of absolutely baked into the video.
Yes, it feels so good to strive for something and then achieve it. Glad you appreciated that journey!
would it work if you d made the leaves as extremely thin as possible and then fill them with transparent glaze? so that it might make the paper thin leaves more stronger but still translucent
yes, i think so! i could paint the celadon glaze over the parts that aren't the leaves and then dip the whole piece in clear. but it would be a lot more work
Does that work in air dry clay?? Btw your work is genius it's stunning and looked so elegant ❤
Thank you so much!!
Getting light to shine through will not work for air dry clay, unfortunately. It doesn't have the properties porcelain does to make it work. You could carve holes for it to work!
@@janicerohrssen oh i see, thank you for your response 😊
Beautiful. ❤
Beautiful work. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much!!
That's so cool!!!
absolutely stunning!
That's amazing! Also, the work on that second one wasn't wasted: you could just put a string of LED lights inside of it.
That is a wonderful idea! I hadn't considered that and will definitely do it! Thanks! ✨
im sure ur more experienced than i, but in my pottery class we used to spray pieces down and bag them in plastic if they dried too early. that way the next day u can trim wetter clay rather than bone dry
yes, that's exactly what you should do! I could actually have soaked the whole thing then put it in an airtight container for it to re-moisten, but I was in a bit of a rush by that point.