Family Ties and Family Lies | E11 E20 | Law & Order

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  • @melissar4612
    @melissar4612 Рік тому +1384

    The fact of the matter is, sometimes parents DO have to cut off support for their grown children, if that support is abetting the child's self-destructuve behavior. Ask any family that has had to cut off an addict family member. It's the hardest thing you'll ever do, and also the ONLY thing that you can do.

    • @jazmynjohnson1060
      @jazmynjohnson1060 Рік тому +92

      I can attest to this from dealing with an addict family member. Cutting them off and forcing them to seek treatment for themselves was super hard to watch, almost made me want to give in just to not see them suffer. But it was the best decision ever and they are leading a sober life now and independent due to that one very hard decision

    • @YolandaAnneBrown95726
      @YolandaAnneBrown95726 Рік тому +60

      Exactly. Went through that with my late brother. Addiction is a destroyer of families.

    • @Caitlynn552
      @Caitlynn552 Рік тому +44

      Same. Had a family member who dealt with drug and alcohol addiction. Their destructive behavior eventually led to their child also getting into drugs as a teen. Many years later, they're both recovering and leading fulfilling lives, helping others out of their destructive paths.

    • @TititoDeBologay
      @TititoDeBologay Рік тому +1

      Facts!

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 Рік тому +14

      @@jazmynjohnson1060is that relay cutting them off? Doesn’t that mean cutting them from the family and never talking to or with them again? Or is it cutting the flow of money that the saying means?

  • @Locktwiste72
    @Locktwiste72 Рік тому +653

    The actress who plays the victim`s sister later appeared as a regular on LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT as one of the senior detectives.

    • @a.e.jabbour5003
      @a.e.jabbour5003 Рік тому +43

      Yeah! Julianne Nicholson. I loved Wheeler! :)

    • @javierpatag3609
      @javierpatag3609 Рік тому +37

      The Law & Order shows are pretty much a Who's Who of future TV and film greats. So many great actors before they made it big were guests in the series.

    • @andrewyoung2796
      @andrewyoung2796 Рік тому +4

      Am i allowed to say i find her beautiful. I was addicted to. Goren

    • @gbonkers666
      @gbonkers666 Рік тому +2

      @@a.e.jabbour5003 Beautiful woman!

    • @doyltruddy902
      @doyltruddy902 Рік тому +1

      she's so hot, or well she was. this was like 30 years ago

  • @DaneOrschlovsky
    @DaneOrschlovsky Рік тому +666

    I feel like the editing team took 45 minutes and made it 12, excellent work 👌

    • @okenwa1983
      @okenwa1983 Рік тому +41

      Feel like? That's exactly what they did.

    • @Beefer-e4j
      @Beefer-e4j 10 місяців тому +12

      That’s- that’s what they did

    • @georgelane6350
      @georgelane6350 5 місяців тому +3

      Completely agree, it's impressive to retain the full story chopping it down this far!

    • @jamesonm.7925
      @jamesonm.7925 4 місяці тому +3

      That's because the actual show sucks.

    • @Carolyn-qd8mj
      @Carolyn-qd8mj 2 місяці тому

      @@jamesonm.7925 I always liked it.

  • @andrewwang8615
    @andrewwang8615 Рік тому +224

    I kept expecting a final twist, like she's really his daughter, and Scott wasn't his son.

    • @ameliarose47
      @ameliarose47 3 місяці тому +2

      Dude I was also expecting that to happen

  • @sylviabanks7700
    @sylviabanks7700 11 місяців тому +147

    The woman that played the Scott’s mom is amazing! I felt her pain and anger. So good!

    • @mikebt2000
      @mikebt2000 8 місяців тому +2

      I keep thinking that I've seen her in similar roles in other episodes of Law and Order.

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 5 місяців тому +2

      Yes. Maybe the mother is the source of the problem: by never accepting the child's responsibility she teaches him to never do. As someone who has helped drug addicts (we have a group that helps people financially), I don't know how many times the psychologist has told us to stop being an enabler. The mother never accepted that the child had responsibilities, blaming the father and the cosmos and the child learned from her that he was not responsible and decided to become a criminal.

  • @dianagonsalves
    @dianagonsalves Рік тому +341

    When a son points a gun to his head thats when you tell your son sorry and that you love him and have always loved him. Children need that connection and approval...

    • @lizziebkennedy7505
      @lizziebkennedy7505 Рік тому +31

      People don’t become addicted for nothing. Childhood trauma, even garden variety, plays a big role. Chances are he’ll be wanting to know where that love was when he needed it. Be very careful with this.

    • @XSilver_WaterX
      @XSilver_WaterX Рік тому +5

      @@lizziebkennedy7505 Sad to say, but when your rich and connected to the big wigs, all that love is used rags, throwable and changeable. You want love, you got to earn it and make it in the Army! Loyalty to a country is the new love we live in now.

    • @rickraber1249
      @rickraber1249 Рік тому +15

      AND you reach for the gun to stop him from shooting himself! When the kid's about to pull the trigger is NOT the time to start an apology! I also didn't see anything the father needed to apolgize for - they gave him money right up until it was obvious it wasn't helping. And then the kid's mature response was hate and blackmail?

    • @angelaramirez819
      @angelaramirez819 11 місяців тому +6

      But he wasn’t a child, just another rich brat

    • @KhaosChilde97
      @KhaosChilde97 11 місяців тому +12

      @@rickraber1249…having an excessive amount of money and ‘resources’ to lead a ‘successful’ life isnt all a child needs to grow into a stable, confident and happy adult.

  • @Zak6959
    @Zak6959 Рік тому +239

    And then the sister grew up to be a police officer on another law and order if I recall.

    • @Deborahtunes
      @Deborahtunes Рік тому +21

      'L&O Criminal Intent' series...

    • @sanedcab1Mexico
      @sanedcab1Mexico Рік тому +13

      She became Logan's partner!

    • @ChrisCosat
      @ChrisCosat Рік тому +7

      Oh yes. I forgot.

    • @vicj9256
      @vicj9256 11 місяців тому +6

      Detective Megan Wheeler, 24 episodes according to IMDb, and a 5 episode Law and Order miniseries.

    • @redrackham6812
      @redrackham6812 9 місяців тому +2

      She said she realized it was time to get on with her life.

  • @NinetailsYoda01
    @NinetailsYoda01 Рік тому +386

    I always felt for the dad he tried to give his son the tools to be successful and he wasted it but blamed the dad for his actions and so did the mom which is probably why the son turned out the way he did.

    • @lizziebkennedy7505
      @lizziebkennedy7505 Рік тому +64

      Tools for success? What about tools for emotional intelligence, fulfilment, how to manage anger. Too few parents are held accountable for their failure to prepare young ppl via character and the deepest aspects of life. Deadbeat dads come in all income brackets.

    • @joshandabradford8749
      @joshandabradford8749 Рік тому +16

      ​@@lizziebkennedy7505💯

    • @rickraber1249
      @rickraber1249 Рік тому

      The things you describe ARE tools for success - in life. I didn't see any evidence that the father failed the son. I would say the mother did, if she was making excuses for his bad decisions. @@lizziebkennedy7505

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 11 місяців тому +19

      How could the dad teach what he didn't have? Empathy or morals? He was a liar and wanted an innocent girl to take the fall

    • @Midnight0Mistress
      @Midnight0Mistress 10 місяців тому +7

      Even the langage shows that the dad was very self-absorbed.

  • @rickraber1249
    @rickraber1249 Рік тому +201

    That woman was wrong in saying they gave up the right to call him their son. When you have a child who goes off the rails, there are times when you have to let go of them - or kick them out, deny them bail money, refuse to take their abuse. Otherwise, it's just enabling, which doesn't help anybody, especially them. A child reaches an age when they're making their own decisions and you can't change that. You can only decide to go along with their destructiveness, or back away, and hope they eventually grow up. I once heard a wise counsellor say that you can't allow one member of a family to destroy the whole unit.

    • @Tyler-he4pf
      @Tyler-he4pf 8 місяців тому

      I’d say he gave up the right to call him his son when he left him on the street for anyone to find his body. It’s his word against a dead man. Sure it would’ve been a fight to prove his innocence but a good lawyer could argue that his son committed Su*cide to spite the father.

    • @Book_Dragon2562
      @Book_Dragon2562 5 місяців тому +2

      Abandonment is not love.

    • @TheresFuckeryAfoot
      @TheresFuckeryAfoot 5 місяців тому +9

      @@Book_Dragon2562… healthy boundaries is not abandonment

    • @HardcoreLevelingBaka
      @HardcoreLevelingBaka 5 місяців тому +10

      @@Book_Dragon2562I know of a girl who made a false assault allegation against her father because her parents grounded her, her father was arrested and lost his job, her mother who was a teacher was at risk of losing her career because she didn’t report the abuse (abuse that never actually happened)
      The daughter felt absolutely no remorse for ruining her parents reputations, so they made the decision to cut her off and send her to live with her grandmother .
      Kids can’t just do whatever they want and expect their parents to protect them, you can’t enable that type of behavior.

    • @isthatmysatay
      @isthatmysatay 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HardcoreLevelingBakathat is the problem....americans think grounding their kids is sufficient punishment😂😂😂😂

  • @davidshelton7208
    @davidshelton7208 Рік тому +134

    Now that’s how you make an episode 12 minutes.

    • @im_flat
      @im_flat Рік тому +7

      The editing in the beginning as the Detectives were looking for leads was great.

  • @beautifuldreamer7204
    @beautifuldreamer7204 10 місяців тому +47

    Even though it would've destroyed her at the time, her mother really should've told her the truth about Peter not being the father

    • @richardlug6139
      @richardlug6139 3 місяці тому +2

      I thought she said that she did not know for sure who the father was since she was with other men at the same time she was with Peter.

    • @pixie_the_rabbit6833
      @pixie_the_rabbit6833 Місяць тому +1

      @@richardlug6139 She also quite happily accepted money from him, knowing that the chances of him being the father was slim. Possible, but slim. She had been run through by so many guys, she had no idea who the father was. She could so easily have done the swab and submitted it to force paternity and COCS--and her young daughter would not have been the wiser. But she knew that he probably was NOT the biological father and didn't want to lose the voluntary money she had been getting. She was thinking that this schmuck had the money and the motivation to keep giving her money, whereas the other losers did not.

  • @deniseball7764
    @deniseball7764 5 місяців тому +16

    At 8 years of age she the child could have accepted whatever was said - the mother didn't want to admit her background and even in the intervening years never told her the truth ....... started off the destruction

  • @RocketRoketto
    @RocketRoketto 11 місяців тому +22

    Alana's sarcastic face is the best 😂

  • @cche16
    @cche16 10 місяців тому +131

    the dad made everything worse by leaving him there and pretending not to know anything. he should've just reported it as soon as it happened. the affair never would've been exposed and he could've told the police exactly what happened. he probably wouldn't have been charged or received a small punishment for accidental death.

    • @uncletaylorify
      @uncletaylorify 10 місяців тому +9

      I was thinking the same thing. Why hide it if you had nothing to do with it?

    • @bartvance8805
      @bartvance8805 8 місяців тому +4

      Don't forget it was WRITTEN to make the father out to be the bad guy, even thought the evidence show he wasn't.

    • @dgvanz1155
      @dgvanz1155 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@uncletaylorifyReally bad lawyer advice.

    • @gentle846
      @gentle846 7 місяців тому +3

      @@uncletaylorify guilty and unwillingness to accept responsibility that he was partly response for the sons suicidal thoughts and actions

    • @jaynehogue2459
      @jaynehogue2459 5 місяців тому +1

      He isn't her father so stop blaming men for what women do wrong. Extortion is illegal and immoral and not a good look

  • @krisaaron5771
    @krisaaron5771 10 місяців тому +124

    Parents who exhibit destructive behavior shouldn't be surprised when their children mirror the same behaviors!
    My mother remained in a verbally abusive, emotionally violent relationship with my father for 50+ years. Neither of my parents could understand why I picked men who were just like dear old Dad and became as venomous as Mom, when Dad wasn't around to hear her explode in rage.
    Too often we marry what we know, and who do we know more about than the people who raised us? I was a lonely, angry kid who believed she was the worst person on earth. If illegal drugs had been a big deal back then I probably would have taken them.

    • @francostevo9939
      @francostevo9939 8 місяців тому +2

      I fail to understand why people choose specific partners of how they grew up with that kind of figure they grew up around or why behavior had to be mirror such actions.
      As someone who was abused, I don’t abuse women or slap them around.

    • @antmagor
      @antmagor 8 місяців тому +2

      @@francostevo9939 that’s one of two ways that it can go. Some see their parents behavior and vow to be better. others see the hypocrisy of the parents and figure well the parents don’t care why should I. Mind you it doesn’t excuse their behavior, those individuals have to take responsibility at some point. Nobody suggesting these parents exonerate the bad behavior of the children, merely that they’re culpable.

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 8 місяців тому +1

      @@francostevo9939 I don't know why we marry what we know, only that so many of us do. Good on you for not passing on what you learned as a child to your own children!!
      I tried to do the opposite (of what my mother did to me) to my own kids, but too many times I slipped back into abusive behavior. I've never forgiven myself for doing that & will carry the shame to my grave.

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 5 місяців тому

      Yes, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Neither parent was abusive. The father decided to stop being an enabler. The mother find everybody responsible but the child who became a criminal man. If she had told to him: "it's not your father it's you" the child would be alive.

    • @TheresFuckeryAfoot
      @TheresFuckeryAfoot 5 місяців тому +1

      Parents were also once children who viewed their parent’s behaviors and those parents were once children who were affected by their parents and so on for millennia.
      You can keep blaming them or you can acknowledge where the patterns came from And also accept responsibility for yourself & learn to choose differently.

  • @Jamiesonlindley
    @Jamiesonlindley 8 місяців тому +38

    I feel like that brother and sister reveal was under duress or whatever. They’re both yelling at her and not allowing her to answer questions until she’s in hysterics. Surely that’s not good.

    • @tifadreamers
      @tifadreamers 8 місяців тому +9

      that part bothered me the most. was it really necessary to keep yelling at her like that? she wasn't even a suspect. sometimes they overdramatize these things when if you compare them to crime documentaries shared on YT, this kind of yelling isn't going to get you anywhere. it seems more like they're coercing her into saying "okay I did it"

    • @obliviouz
      @obliviouz 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tifadreamersUh, no she absolutely was a suspect. They thought she killed him because they had an argument about her getting an abortion.

  • @hazeleyees
    @hazeleyees Рік тому +58

    Genealogy can be complicated.

    • @deepdays9068
      @deepdays9068 Рік тому +8

      But they’re just blue quality pants 👖

    • @hazeleyees
      @hazeleyees Рік тому +3

      @@deepdays9068 😂👍

    • @rhuephus
      @rhuephus Рік тому +1

      or lack thereof

  • @laksitamochtar
    @laksitamochtar 10 місяців тому +13

    This is the kind of editing we loveee🎉

  • @Melina-fi3sc
    @Melina-fi3sc Рік тому +39

    The daughter that was being interrogated was a detective on Law & Order: Criminal Intent 😂😂😂

    • @JeremyRobbins-h7m
      @JeremyRobbins-h7m 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes she was...
      A fire 🔥 actress 👍

    • @andromedafan
      @andromedafan 3 місяці тому

      Also a lawyer on Ally McBeal.

  • @lyndalamb3221
    @lyndalamb3221 6 місяців тому +9

    These cops were really mean in the way they talked to his "sister".

    • @LAKnightAuthor
      @LAKnightAuthor Місяць тому

      Cops are always either cruel & vicious or manipulative & cruel.

  • @TheSDB13
    @TheSDB13 Рік тому +19

    Hey it's Detective Megan Wheeler from Criminal Intent

  • @MrGabeanator
    @MrGabeanator 10 місяців тому +7

    Not the last time that actor would play a crazy father on this show

  • @lizziemckee3204
    @lizziemckee3204 10 місяців тому +7

    The lawyer for the dad is the baker in the original cast of into the woods on Broadway

  • @Deborahtunes
    @Deborahtunes Рік тому +11

    I forgot about that little twist at 5:09...

  • @TheMan750
    @TheMan750 Рік тому +27

    3:06 Lenny sure does

  • @p_b2222
    @p_b2222 Місяць тому

    This episode was tough, because it was just tragic all around. From the parents having to see their son go through addiction, to the woman desperately trying to find her Dad and any other family,, to the Dad having to live with the burden of seeing his son commit. It's really sad

  • @krystalk8105
    @krystalk8105 Рік тому +23

    Parent issues really mess ppl up… geesh

  • @TheKrispyfort
    @TheKrispyfort 9 місяців тому +14

    Don't lie to your kids about who sired them.
    It's a stupid move.
    If you don't know or are unsure just fess up.
    Mandatory paternity DNA testing at birth on the public purse.
    All affected parties involved have the right to that peace of mind.
    Men listed as "father" on the birth certificate should be allowed to obtain a paternity test without the mother's knowledge let alone consent.

  • @bailysbeads2057
    @bailysbeads2057 Рік тому +9

    It's Detective Wheeler.

  • @andrewyoung2796
    @andrewyoung2796 Рік тому +7

    A nod to Anatomy of a murder
    Barney quill was what?
    My father

  • @SalznPfeffer658
    @SalznPfeffer658 Рік тому +14

    Rude flatmate, taking $ to pay the rent then kicking him out. Hypocrite

    • @myownlilbubble
      @myownlilbubble Рік тому +16

      If the roommate had been covering the victim's share for a couple of months.......she have every right...

    • @SalznPfeffer658
      @SalznPfeffer658 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@myownlilbubblewas that the actual case in the episode?
      If not, still a hypocrite.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 6 місяців тому

      ​@@SalznPfeffer658
      Wrong.

    • @SalznPfeffer658
      @SalznPfeffer658 6 місяців тому

      @@TheBatugan77 nah. I'm right.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 5 місяців тому

      Nice dog picture.
      I like how English people call an apartment a flat.

  • @user-sy6fj2bm1z
    @user-sy6fj2bm1z 7 місяців тому +2

    There’s helping and there’s enabling. There’s a difference.

  • @voxorox
    @voxorox 11 місяців тому +4

    Objection. Leading the witness.

    • @Egilhelmson
      @Egilhelmson 10 місяців тому +2

      Police during interrogation have the right to lead witnesses.

  • @teodorusdikypermadi
    @teodorusdikypermadi Рік тому +9

    A liar father and ties up in one case are bad combination

  • @kylewilson2819
    @kylewilson2819 Рік тому +35

    This show has some SERIOUSLY messed up morals. If a Parent’s support is keeping their child addicted or is keeping them from becoming their own person, they are OBLIGATED to cut that support off. So no, the father was NOT in the wrong. The mother was enabling her son and is far more responsible for his death than his father was.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 11 місяців тому +10

      And yet the father lied and was willing to let someone else take the fall

    • @tifadreamers
      @tifadreamers 8 місяців тому +2

      father still lied. neither parent was in the right.

    • @Book_Dragon2562
      @Book_Dragon2562 5 місяців тому

      There is a line between not enabling and full on abandonment. He crossed that line.

    • @pixie_the_rabbit6833
      @pixie_the_rabbit6833 Місяць тому

      @@Book_Dragon2562 You can't help people, who don't want to be helped. Dad could not help him. He had tried repeatedly to help his son. The son was going to end up dead one way or another.

  • @RSOFT92
    @RSOFT92 Рік тому +37

    FYI:
    The Sister (Jessie Lucas) is played by Julianne Nicholson. She also played "Kat" in "Storm of the Century" (by Stephen King), which is where i recognised here from.
    Some might also now her as "Esther Randolph" from Boardwalk Empire.

    • @joymcclendon7525
      @joymcclendon7525 Рік тому +4

      She was also in, Osage County, with Julia Roberts. ☮️

    • @RSOFT92
      @RSOFT92 Рік тому +4

      @@joymcclendon7525 Together with the great Meryl Streep (also played in "The Devil Wears Prada").

    • @shahrimahmad1772
      @shahrimahmad1772 Рік тому +2

      Sure she was great in Osage County but check out her performance in Flannel Pajamas. You can thank me later.

    • @moniqueuu8777
      @moniqueuu8777 Рік тому +7

      And a detective on Law and Order: Criminal Intent.

    • @shawnuel
      @shawnuel Рік тому

      @@moniqueuu8777 Yup. The L&O people must have liked her guest spots. Julianne also played Marilyn Monroe's mother in last year's, Blonde

  • @bartvance8805
    @bartvance8805 8 місяців тому +6

    The father was being the best father he could be when he cut him off. Aiding and abetting a self-destructive habit is no solution. They have to want to change and that usually means after they hit a low point, and then do the work in rehabilitation. the father here is a saint, the mother couldn't stop mothering a physically grown man. A tragedy all around, but the father was right at every stage of this drama.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 6 днів тому

      Was he? I mean considering how the son turned out and hiw he had an affair, believed he had a daughter, then magically the gun went off twice killed his son?

  • @shayd1984triton
    @shayd1984triton Рік тому +19

    Who is the actress who played the mother of this murder victim? She played other characters on the show.

    • @RebekahCurielAlessi
      @RebekahCurielAlessi Рік тому +5

      Deirdre O'Connell I think...

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Рік тому +13

      Many guest performers and a few regulars have played multiple roles within the L&O universe.

  • @trevormillar1576
    @trevormillar1576 10 місяців тому +7

    He's my brothet. Not my lover!"
    Guess she's not from the South, then.

  • @tbam73
    @tbam73 Рік тому +17

    I wish she was this good on Criminal Intent

    • @dragonzord18
      @dragonzord18 Рік тому +18

      Thought she was good, especially having Chris Noth as her partner

    • @TheMan750
      @TheMan750 Рік тому +16

      @@dragonzord18 I thought she was good too, gave balanced out Logan’s character, and she’s was the more serious one between her and Nichols

    • @joshandabradford8749
      @joshandabradford8749 Рік тому +2

      Lol..she's alright

    • @derrickcox7761
      @derrickcox7761 Рік тому +1

      Police must contain their emotions...or quit.

  • @deborahpolk1854
    @deborahpolk1854 Рік тому +6

    Julianne nicholson sister, mother played by Deirde O'Connell

  • @tbam73
    @tbam73 11 місяців тому +9

    Carmichael eye rolled the entire time on the show, bahaaaa

    • @Mugiwara2k
      @Mugiwara2k 9 місяців тому

      I like Angie Harmon as an actress but I hated her character on this show, easily my least favorite ADA. She was just way too b*tchy and mean.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 5 місяців тому

      I was just noticing that she seems supercilious and smug.
      And I was thinking the actress herself! - haha - but maybe I have her mixed up with her character...

  • @andrewenserro3185
    @andrewenserro3185 Рік тому +24

    So was it the father that killed him or did the victim commit suicide?

    • @gabrielbecze5753
      @gabrielbecze5753 Рік тому +33

      There was a struggle, the father tried to wrestle the gun away from his son and it went off.

    • @asecretone
      @asecretone Рік тому +5

      Yes.

    • @houndsofvalor
      @houndsofvalor Рік тому +13

      I still don’t believe the father in this clip. Is that really what happened? “The gun went off twice.” Wasn’t it a revolver?

    • @dryb3301
      @dryb3301 Рік тому +19

      Guns usually go off "twice" "accidentally"

    • @derrickcox7761
      @derrickcox7761 Рік тому +2

      @@houndsofvalor the script was a lie.

  • @FullTimePatient37
    @FullTimePatient37 Рік тому +8

    I'm watching but I don't understand anything.. anybody else?

    • @pixie_the_rabbit6833
      @pixie_the_rabbit6833 Місяць тому

      Dad had banged that girl's mother years ago. The girl's mother had been through by so many men that she had no clue who the father was. One day, she saw his photo in the newspaper, and the girl (8 at the time) saw her looking intently at the photo; so the girl asked, "Is that my father." Mom told her it was. Mom also got the brilliant idea to ask that guy for hush money, which he did provide as he was able. Mom knew chances were slim that he was the father, so she never pursued getting the DNA test. Why risk losing that money? The girl grew up and tried to contact the man. She was able then to contact the guy's son. The girl and the guy's son (who hated his dad) did a paternity test using the son's DNA. IT WAS NOT A MATCH. Guy was NOT the father; but the man's son and the girl hatched a plot to BLACKMAIL HIM, because he guy didn't know about the paternity test. When the man showed up, I think he somehow figured out that she wasn't his child and that it was a shakedown. The son then put a gun to his own head. The man tried to stop him, but failed. THE MAN HAD LOVED HIS SON, BUT COULD NOT SAVE HIM. Not through his many attempts to help him previously, and NOT WHEN HE KILLED HIMSELF.

  • @marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780

    Everything getting very fishy in this case

  • @Forensource
    @Forensource Рік тому +2

    Me and Julio down by the school yard.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 5 місяців тому

      I love that song.
      Paul Simon is great.

  • @a.e.jabbour5003
    @a.e.jabbour5003 9 місяців тому

    Always one of my favorite episodes. So many twists and turns, so emotional, so intense. Just a top shelf episode all around.

  • @pixie_the_rabbit6833
    @pixie_the_rabbit6833 Місяць тому

    Dad should have come clean about the affair ages ago. He was NOT the girl's biological father, but he should have told his wife. That said, Mom was WRONG. They both loved their son and had tried repeatedly to help him. What they refused to do was to keep enabling behavior that would destroy him. The son REFUSED TO BE HELPED! He was, in fact, a criminal, who killed himself. He would have ended up dead, even if his father had cleared up the paternity and had been honest with his wife and son. The girl's mother is also a CRIMINAL. She and other women like her, who lie about paternity should be prosecuted and punished. Her daughter KNOWINGLY LIED AND BLACKMAILED that man. She definitely should get a little time for that.

  • @sistakia33
    @sistakia33 2 місяці тому

    The mother should have told the truth in the beginning! Okay, maybe you can’t tell an eight year old, but by age twelve she is old enough to know the truth! I spent my entire life looking for my father because my mother couldn’t or wouldn’t tell me the truth. 😢

  • @YeshuaKingMessiah
    @YeshuaKingMessiah 8 місяців тому +2

    Gave up that right??
    No, ma’am; u did. By wanting to continue aiding n abetting him in his problems. A parent quickly cuts the source feeding the harm to their child.

  • @jaushabakkas8127
    @jaushabakkas8127 5 місяців тому +1

    No you would not understand, He and I is brother and sister, well lady, why you didn't tell that right away? what's up with all this lies and avoid to answer

  • @Harry-bn5mp
    @Harry-bn5mp Рік тому +4

    Is not that the girl who plays princess Margaret?

  • @bitterbeauty711
    @bitterbeauty711 2 місяці тому

    Julianne Nichols. Loved her in Mare of Easttown

  • @lctamoya
    @lctamoya 8 місяців тому

    Wicked man

  • @fouadal-saied9483
    @fouadal-saied9483 7 місяців тому

    Dont remember you 💙💯 💙

  • @ladyweasellou3367
    @ladyweasellou3367 10 місяців тому +7

    NEVER EVER enable an adult (child, grand child, siblings, etc) because it is best for the rest of the family and will escalate/help the person in bad situation.

  • @Mageroth
    @Mageroth 7 місяців тому

    Girl really needed her Daddy!

  • @arielg7000
    @arielg7000 Рік тому +2

    😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @GlennAustin829
    @GlennAustin829 7 місяців тому +1

    That guy ginger looked like Seth green and chuck Norris had a baby

  • @heidiq9520
    @heidiq9520 10 місяців тому +12

    Her mother’s fault was sleeping around and getting pregnant and then lying about the father .. made her child grow up having mental issues !!!

    • @capers72424
      @capers72424 10 місяців тому +8

      Her father slept around, too, while a married man. That screws a kid up, too.

  • @cathylanders6377
    @cathylanders6377 11 місяців тому +1

    😢

  • @RocketRoketto
    @RocketRoketto 11 місяців тому +1

    The makeup on the short haireed redhead in the restaurant is not it

  • @swastikausa
    @swastikausa 11 місяців тому +4

    julianne is so beautiful. jonathan cake is a lucky man.

  • @jameshay4589
    @jameshay4589 Рік тому +3

    TW: dizziness

  • @romelladasratt888
    @romelladasratt888 7 місяців тому

    Sesame Street precinct

  • @lakeyakeo8503
    @lakeyakeo8503 Рік тому +2

    🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰❤️

  • @emilythomson418
    @emilythomson418 9 місяців тому

    Is the daughter Brianna chicken fry in a wig ?

  • @joshuaengleman1131
    @joshuaengleman1131 Рік тому

    # 328!!!!
    WHOOOOOOO.... DOGGY!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 Рік тому +4

    Wishy Washy Liberalism

  • @Anonymous-xk2hg
    @Anonymous-xk2hg Рік тому +20

    I notice that in the comments no one is holding the girls mother accountable for lying to her daughter! There are a lot of people that hate their fathers who are actually not their fathers at all! # mandatory DNA TEST AT BIRTH!

    • @MsLogjam
      @MsLogjam Рік тому

      And mandatory parenting classes beginning in junior high. A boy who's had to change a few diapers is less likely to complain about using a condom. Funny, this happened to Bill Cosby as well. In his case the girl hit him up for money right after his son was killed back in the nineties. She thought hush money would be quickly forthcoming but he was so grief-stricken over his son that he didn't care what people said and he helped law enforcement set up a sting operation to arrest her.

    • @TheKrispyfort
      @TheKrispyfort 9 місяців тому +4

      Agree. Mandatory parental DNA testing at birth and paid for by the public purse

  • @RickField-u5e
    @RickField-u5e Рік тому +7

    So the Father Marvin Gayed his own Son.

  • @Anonymous-xk2hg
    @Anonymous-xk2hg Рік тому +9

    Update, where are all the feminist! No one is holding the mom accountable, SHE LIED, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 9 місяців тому +5

      You do know this is fiction, right?

    • @TheKrispyfort
      @TheKrispyfort 9 місяців тому

      ​@@davidhoward4715you do know that the stories are inspired by actual events.
      Paternity fraud is a serious issue

    • @isthatmysatay
      @isthatmysatay 3 місяці тому

      An angry BO smelling lesbo must have rej3cted you😂😂😂😂