2:15 this part was actually made by motheye not aquarware lmao sorry for late upload lol join the discord server if you wanna submit a clip to appear in the next video: discord.gg/dailydoseofgeometrydash
CBF mod just represents how i thought geometry dash physics when first time playing it. Imo its just makes the game better since there will no disadvantages and smoother gameplay
Not necessarily, correct me if I'm wrong but I think rob won't rate levels it uses cbf or other mods to verify it... If it isn't rated, it can't get added to the demon list.
I’m surprised Rob isn’t allowing CBF, even knowing doggies verifying Grief with it. I didn’t think he was gonna want another “Rate Tidal Wave” situation.
i dont get how people say it'll help them when they are playing insane demons max. hell. 90% of extreme demons don't need cbf to be used. its only for top 50 levels where it actually is useful
@@WasyIuI agree with you that it really is only needed for the top 50 or main list. It might help mobile players like a tiny bit with like ship or something. I don’t know that much about it sense I’m on iOS (icreate pro doesn’t have cbf nor fps bypass) but it might help.
@@WasyIuThing is, it’s not only for accuracy. CBF allows you to be playing on 60 FPS while still reaping the benefits of the mod. This helps players with low-end hardware to play object heavy levels as long as they can run the level at 60 FPS, which is way more convenient than having to run it at 144/240 FPS to play it without delay. It’s objectively a good thing.
Yeah. Except it does change game physics, for the wave as an example. Having that precise input registering gives you more opening to hold / release and makes it easier
i think what he means is ticks per second, a lot of impossible 240/360 2.1 fps frame perfects are now impossible on vanilla 2.2, however cbf makes them possible, however again, cbf is not a vanilla feature, and this is most likely why rob doesn't wanna allow it for verifications
its a misconception that it doesnt change physics it essentially uses physics bypass every time you click i even made a level that detects cbf with like 5 triggers lol
@@xenird it works essentially the same as FPS bypass. The difference is that bypass would also check for collisions every added frames, which could change the game's behavior. Back then people would talk about how much better the physics where with FPS bypass when its biggest upgrade was to open more opportunities to click, this is literally what CBF does. Now I would agree with you, since it doesnt alter collision checking, it should be more consistent. But imo, the sole fact that it opens more opportunities that would be impossible on vanilla otherwise is a good enough argument to claim it does change the physics. Again, take the wave, you can build stuff that is impossible to align with on vanilla. It highlights the issue with this mod.
i REALLY hope this convences Rob to add CBF to the main games otherwise it’s just an even bigger disadvantage to players without mods Not to mention that this is a LITERAL MOD so
@@falkeborg9432 Mobile players still have HUGE disadvantage due to the lack of FPS bypass, which only Steam players have. The difference between 60 hz and 240 hz is WAY bigger than 1000 hz and 8000 hz. The effect is smaller the higher you go. Also, that's a stupid reason in and of itself. The game's limits should not be kept behind just because some platforms are limited.
There's one comment from one random commenter on Doggie's CBF video that I like to quote for situations like these, and it's that it's all cordial and understanding until RobTop says "no" resulting in GD players shitting their diapers and whining on twitter that he said no.
Atleast Robtop trying to make it into the game, he is the type of guy who never ignore some opportunities, and as 60hz player, with knowing how CBF works, it's kinda annoying to know when I'm dead because my mistake and when I'm dead because of frame delay during beating Extreme Demon, yeah I'm beating Extreme Demon in 60hz, i hope CBF will be official soon.
2:38 I basically did this BD as a some sort of "ultra-beginner-guide" on Reddit, explaining not just every phase of making Glow style specifically, but more generalized topics like structuring, colors, contrasts and composition, and then decided to make it into a 'level' where all these phases of making a block can be viewed in order, kinda like a timelapse Btw, thank you Vit for including me in a video again, even with such a simple thing compared to aWotW ❤
I find it very interesting the way you do your designs. I usually do very dark base and then add a 1.9 blending object on top and then smaller details. Yous looks very good though so I’ll take it as inspiration
@@falkeborg9432 I'm not decorating in Glow or anything like that usually, and prefer doing something more complicated like Art and Modern tech. This block is my 2nd attempt at this style, and a very basic one - great to demonstrate the basics, but not good enough for a real level
As a mobile player, yeah cbf could be useful since my potato of a phone can't even play levels without using ldm, but yeah robby toppy saying no to a mod that helps potato devices be in the same field as a 144/240hz player is just plain telling us "lol ur device is crap, go buy a newer one"
@@Icedonot Better hardware will always be better. It completely mmisses the point though. CBF gives an unfaire advantage over people who play the game normally. That's cheating.
@@falkeborg9432 You can only be consistent if you applied this same reasoning to the FPS bypass in 2.1. And no, the FPS bypass was not the same as monitors, for 2 reasons: 1. The bypass was BETTER, because you using it with vsync off gave a less input delay than playing with the equivalent monitor with vsync on. 2. If vanilla GD had a bug where some hardware caused vanilla noclip, would noclip then have to be accepted, according to your logic? See how it makes zero sense to use "hardware vs software" as the basis for determining what is a cheat and what is not a cheat?
Honestly the Click Between Frames mod is great, it levels the advantage people have with 144hz and 240hz monitors and allows for an "even play field". As some people said it's like the FPS bypass thing but 2024
0:40 i have a feeling its gonna be like the click on steps mod. which makes your physics be 240 no matter the fps, so you could be playing on 5 fps and it would be the same as 240
Apart from the right-clicking and the option to change physics, what does CBF do? It changes literally nothing in my GD, except for some momentum bugs in platformer, and the fact that pausing the game clicking the pause button makes the player jump
Why is it that every game that has someone make something related to heaven a near impossible task. Like damn bro if thats how difficult it is to get to heaven then, we all cooked 💀
I bet the reason why they allowed the click between frames mod on the demon list is because it literally breaks every bot. Botting softwares just get broken with click between frames.
It feels like rob doesn’t want cbf added because he didn’t make it. There’s no reason for him not to add exactly how it is but he decided “no I’ll make my own probably worse version of it”
Some perspective i think ppl need is that virtually every other precision-input based game effectively has CBF by default - the input device's poll rate is the limiting factor in precision. GD is actually the weird outlier, only checking inputs as often as FPS/TPS for some reason.
@@onionsans I doubt it's because he had anything against people playing with cbf though, he's gonna change it to that so clearly he has no problem with the concept. There was prolly some circumstances while programming unrelated to all this when he originally made the game that we don't know abt
my guess is that rob will add click on steps, a mod that registers clicks on each physics step instead of each visual frame, making it so low end players have the benefit of being able to play on 60 with higher input polling rate, without giving high end players the benefit of the physics changes
The problem with verifying levels now is that if you use cbf it will be allowed by the demon list however the level won’t actually be able to go on the list until it’s rated and it’s not getting rated bc robtop doesn’t like it
I also found smth interesting In treasure room, if you dont whave enough keys, you will click chests that will require more ane more keys, the gatekeeper face will be confused even more
@@falkeborg9432 There are already less popular demon lists that include unrates but already account for this problem. You can decide for yourself what is worthy and what is not, without blindly following all the decisions of one guy.
Ngl I think that it makes sense for the reason that cbf would be aloud for level verification because it makes certain levels verified with cbf possibly impossible or harder on a device that can’t get the mod
Anyone able to find the source material for the physics based bridge clip at 3:13? while it was submitted by "gaywhamofeet" ive been looking and cant find anyone with that name, and its not clear if they made the bridge or if they were just the one who submitted it to discord.
Hey I’m the person who submitted that clip and on that recording was the level Disillusionment by JiJangs. That bug happened because of a mirror portal at 21% which had a gravity portal attached to it, which caused those weird blue lines to be on the screen in the clip. It only happens rarely though. In the final ship part where the level says Thank You, the frame my cube entered that ship portal this weird blue circle appeared around my character which I think only happens because of those blue lines. When I hit that gravity portal I guess something went wrong in the code which led to me just simply not completing the level. This is very rare and has only happened to me 1 other time. This is not modded, and I play on Mobile 60hz, so I don’t think it was related to FPS.
I think that demonlist allowing cbf will start a divide between levels being rated and being placed on the list. Tidal Wave situation already anoyed so much people. Even the demonlist in their cbf statement said that it's a possibility.
@@falkeborg9432 ye but Pointercrate is by far the most popular one, and it only ranks rated levels, which only causes problems. When Tidal Wave got verified, players only started to care about it when it got rated so that it can be placed on the list, and they get the ability to submit their records. So many unrated levels like Diabolic Clubstep, despite being verified and having a rate-worthy decoration, are practically unknown solely because they can't be placed on the list. No rate - no placement - and everyone's reaction is as if the level never even existed
@@IlTechnoDashlI Players cared way before it got rated, and that’s mainly the reason it got rated in the first place. While I agree with your other points, including unrated levels would probably make the list a lot more boring since people would start uploading layouts for the list
@@falkeborg9432 my point about Tidal Wave is that when it got verified, people began waiting for its rate before getting to play it. Most of the significant progress and completions began to happen Only after it got rated Well, the purpose of this kind of list is to archive most impressive player achievements, not to highlight levels of specific difficulty, even if global GD community thinks otherwise. I think that it should place everything legitimately completed, including layouts and challenges, to demonstrate WHO has beaten the hardest thing in a game, instead of promoting levels
1:19 imagine 3d printing and a jumpscare comes out as the final result Edit: I also wanna see someone ask rob about click on steps (like cbf but without physics bypass and is on mobile too)
There's some things to note about click between frames being implemented in vanilla. First off is something Rob already mentioned, it might not be viable for all platforms. Click between frames is currently only available on Windows, and there is no guarantee it'll be possible to implement on other platforms (especially iOS, maybe Android). Next is, contrary to what some people seem to believe, Click Between Frames _does_ change physics. Now, it is certainly a much smaller impact than something like TPS bypass but it is worth remembering. It likely isn't a small effort to implement bug-free, but this one, at least, should be entirely doable. An alternative for leveling the playing field would be what qimiko's Click on Steps mod does. That is, change input from being read every frame to every physics step. This is likely easier to implement as this behaviour is a prerequisite for Click Between Frames (ok, they're not technically the same, but my point still stands). Although, this would only level the playing field for those playing on less than 240fps as opposed to elevating the skill ceiling which I think most players actually want.
I swear people are never gonna shut up about this cbf mod. I just see it as an extra tool to improve your input precision similar to the fps bypass situation
I don’t see it similar to fps bypass since you can get the effect of fps bypass with vanilla gd (by using a higher hz monitor). Cbf is something nobody in vanilla could replicate. Yes I do think saying “just get a high hz monitor” is dumb, and is a good reason for fps bypass. But it isn’t comparable to cbf bc of that imo
@@txtronixgd7373 fps bypass basically removes the concept of fps bound inputs, in theory you could get cbf by using a 1000hz monitor, while they dont exist rn they probably will at some point. The biggest difference between fps bypass and cbf is that cbf helps low end hardware way more because you dont need to be able to hit those high fps counts.
As someone who is against CBF, I was also not a supporter of unofficial FPS bypass, because of the same reason: external tools that give an unfair advantage towards players that play the vanilla game should be considered cheating and not be allowed. CBF would be great if it was implemented inside the game itself by RobTop, but until that point it absolutely should not be allowed.
Imo i think the "cbf" rob is adding to vanilla gd will be more like the physics changes in 2.200 to make the game fairer for everyone, only that rob's "cbf at home" will do a much better job at that _(if it turns out well, that is.)_ since it isnt limited to each frame
In my opinion, cbf SHOULD be allowed to the game, and the main reason is that you dont need to buy a super expensive monitor just to have higher frames or even a super expensive pc in general I dont find it to be "cheating" bcs is not like cbf gonna make the level free or something, you also need to be good at the game to feel the advantages
I'm not a GD expert so could someone explain how CBF would change the game's physics ? Doesn't it just allow anybody to click accurately without the need for an incredible PC ?
1:21 im not trying to hate, but i have tried something like that myself with the tartarus first jump but it also has multicolor printing to make the outlines jump out and it's a lot bigger. I wish i could share it in the gd discord but i don't have a high enough rank to post it. Edit: nvm I'll do it in the ddogd server Edit 2: WHY TF DID I COMMENT THIS SHUT UP OLD ME
2:15 this part was actually made by motheye not aquarware lmao
sorry for late upload lol
join the discord server if you wanna submit a clip to appear in the next video: discord.gg/dailydoseofgeometrydash
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Love you pookie
Im glad robtop disaproved it i hope cbf gets deleted and lost forever
Stereo madness
I bet rob just brought cbf from wish or something
LMAOOOO
That's probably what's going to be lol
Just like noclip, at this point just let modders do their thing, they are better than robtop at doing his job for free
@@_Tao__ they might be better, but he still has the final say
@idontevenknow3456cant script at all? Look at the game he made
Every other day: THE (person/feature/level) CONTROVERSY
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GD twitter be like
dumbass intro: hgello everyeroeene edaillty doe of geomety deegghhsnsh
Welcome to the gd community!
yo wsg gpr
Click beetween frames, the official geometry dash PTSD
PTSD from back when using 360 fps was still controversial, ITS THE SAME THING NOW
Robtop: says something that he knows will get everybodys hopes up*
Also robtop: "dont get your hopes up"
At least he is giving a disclaimer now unlike in the past when he just gave false hope without shame
He learn one or two things from getting everyone hopes up with 2.2, he ended up working his ass off for 7 years.
CBF mod just represents how i thought geometry dash physics when first time playing it. Imo its just makes the game better since there will no disadvantages and smoother gameplay
Play platformer with it
2:15 THAT'S MOTHEYE NOT ME 😭
BRO
Imagine 💀
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@@DailyDoseOfGeometryDash123 💀
Yay doggie can verify grief!!
Edit: I’ve started a war in the comments
Robtop wont rate cbf verifications so maybe not
@@dammmmyy technically he can but it just won't be rated
@@Cynderace unless he beats it with the robtobs version of cbf
Not necessarily, correct me if I'm wrong but I think rob won't rate levels it uses cbf or other mods to verify it... If it isn't rated, it can't get added to the demon list.
@@gdstar6917 true
Quickly reminder:
Even if you made a level hard as fuck.
It would never give more star than clutterfunk
😞😞😞😞
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Tbh clutterfunk one of the hardest levels in the game, arguably harder than stereo madness or even back on track
best thing about this comment is the fax and the rhyme
@@Palemis your joking right
And toe
For anyone wanting to use the Aerial Gleam NCS song it uses a 50900 ms offset if you add it using the Auto NONG mod
CBF: I make the game generally more accurate and responsive allowing for the player to have more control and awareness of how they play.
Robtop: No.
I mean he did framelock the game to 240 soo...
CBF is a third party addon in a third party mod loader though
Because it’s an external mod making the game easier. It’s a cheat.
@@falkeborg9432robtop fucked up the physics with 2.2, making the game harder
@@ZerolinGD No it made every level’s physics consistent across all devices
I’m surprised Rob isn’t allowing CBF, even knowing doggies verifying Grief with it. I didn’t think he was gonna want another “Rate Tidal Wave” situation.
Lmao real
To be honest, this mod is actually very helpful for levels. I hope Rob really integrate CBF into the game.
exacly
i dont get how people say it'll help them when they are playing insane demons max. hell. 90% of extreme demons don't need cbf to be used.
its only for top 50 levels where it actually is useful
@@WasyIuI agree with you that it really is only needed for the top 50 or main list. It might help mobile players like a tiny bit with like ship or something. I don’t know that much about it sense I’m on iOS (icreate pro doesn’t have cbf nor fps bypass) but it might help.
@@WasyIuThing is, it’s not only for accuracy. CBF allows you to be playing on 60 FPS while still reaping the benefits of the mod. This helps players with low-end hardware to play object heavy levels as long as they can run the level at 60 FPS, which is way more convenient than having to run it at 144/240 FPS to play it without delay. It’s objectively a good thing.
@@WasyIunot true at all lol
Hi nobody this isn't your daily piece of algebra jump
0:38 cbf was made specifically so that it DOESN'T change the games physics, and robs never said thats the reason why lmao
Yeah. Except it does change game physics, for the wave as an example. Having that precise input registering gives you more opening to hold / release and makes it easier
i think what he means is ticks per second, a lot of impossible 240/360 2.1 fps frame perfects are now impossible on vanilla 2.2, however cbf makes them possible, however again, cbf is not a vanilla feature, and this is most likely why rob doesn't wanna allow it for verifications
its a misconception that it doesnt change physics
it essentially uses physics bypass every time you click
i even made a level that detects cbf with like 5 triggers lol
@@w1llrgYeah. Except that's not changing the physics. That's just adding more ticks per second without changing the physics.
@@xenird it works essentially the same as FPS bypass. The difference is that bypass would also check for collisions every added frames, which could change the game's behavior.
Back then people would talk about how much better the physics where with FPS bypass when its biggest upgrade was to open more opportunities to click, this is literally what CBF does.
Now I would agree with you, since it doesnt alter collision checking, it should be more consistent. But imo, the sole fact that it opens more opportunities that would be impossible on vanilla otherwise is a good enough argument to claim it does change the physics. Again, take the wave, you can build stuff that is impossible to align with on vanilla. It highlights the issue with this mod.
i REALLY hope this convences Rob to add CBF to the main games otherwise it’s just an even bigger disadvantage to players without mods
Not to mention that this is a LITERAL MOD so
geode is free, just saying
@@Quacomoleythat's irrelevant because either way ios users wouldn't have access to it
@@corozon Yeah, as an iOS mobile player myself it’s so sad but true.
@@corozon well android or ios objectively playing and trying to beat really hard levels on mobile is near impossible
@@Quacomoleymost mods are, doesn’t make them okay to use. No one is saying the game is now pay to win or something.
No one going to talk about how hard this beat goes? 2:06
3:25 they really said "Man, I don't feel like it"
I hope whatever robtop makes will solve the issue that CBF solved in the first place. People having different gameplay based on framerate.
Probably not since polling rates are not the same.
@@falkeborg9432 Mobile players still have HUGE disadvantage due to the lack of FPS bypass, which only Steam players have. The difference between 60 hz and 240 hz is WAY bigger than 1000 hz and 8000 hz. The effect is smaller the higher you go.
Also, that's a stupid reason in and of itself. The game's limits should not be kept behind just because some platforms are limited.
There's one comment from one random commenter on Doggie's CBF video that I like to quote for situations like these, and it's that it's all cordial and understanding until RobTop says "no" resulting in GD players shitting their diapers and whining on twitter that he said no.
1:39 MOM LOOK IM IN A VIDEO!!
Nice
Congrags
Congregalions
I'm happy for you
"Hello everyone, this is your daily dose of top comme-"
*Gets hit with metal bat*
3:05
Isn’t that just a more scuffed version of the wave game mode?
thats what im saying bro
it's a groan tube i think
@@naterhythmoooooooowaaaaaa aaaaaaawoooo
@@NebulazDoesStuff uuuuuuiaa
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Actually I think it's also upside down wave
Atleast Robtop trying to make it into the game, he is the type of guy who never ignore some opportunities, and as 60hz player, with knowing how CBF works, it's kinda annoying to know when I'm dead because my mistake and when I'm dead because of frame delay during beating Extreme Demon, yeah I'm beating Extreme Demon in 60hz, i hope CBF will be official soon.
i mean, isn't delay a part of GD at this point though? we've been dealing with it for 10 years, even with cbf there's some delay, it's complicated
The delay with cbf means u got a bad mouse, go get a sayodevice or a better mouse @@rodmentor9601
You're on 60hz but how many fps? I'm a 60hz player too but I play on 120fps (I can't get higher fps).
@@briangonzales1162 higher fps only is for visual comfort
120fps player basically means 120hz player. There might be a slight difference, but still.@@briangonzales1162
1:46 bangeeeerrrrr
What song is that?
@@NinjaShark0109my heart by different heaven I think
The BEST song for "MINECRAFT MOBS IN REAL LIFE 😱😱😱" videos
What is the name of the level ?
It's hard to understand his accent
@@Razlboyyy aerial gleam
1:32 ah yes the feared time travelers
2:38 I basically did this BD as a some sort of "ultra-beginner-guide" on Reddit, explaining not just every phase of making Glow style specifically, but more generalized topics like structuring, colors, contrasts and composition, and then decided to make it into a 'level' where all these phases of making a block can be viewed in order, kinda like a timelapse
Btw, thank you Vit for including me in a video again, even with such a simple thing compared to aWotW ❤
I find it very interesting the way you do your designs. I usually do very dark base and then add a 1.9 blending object on top and then smaller details. Yous looks very good though so I’ll take it as inspiration
@@falkeborg9432 I'm not decorating in Glow or anything like that usually, and prefer doing something more complicated like Art and Modern tech. This block is my 2nd attempt at this style, and a very basic one - great to demonstrate the basics, but not good enough for a real level
1:38 my guy got abducted by an invisible UFO ☠😭👾
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1:32 why are people showing a real clip and then ai generating more of the video with fnaf sfx
I'm gonna either model Tidal Wave, or the Dash spider next. Havent decided yet
dash spider makes more sense imo
Dash Spider!1!1!!1!1
good news to all the dash spider people, I did model and print the dash spider yesterday. Maybe it'll get in to ddogd. Tidal Wave is next
2:15 if THAT is what the top one will be I hope it stays top one for a while
As a mobile player, yeah cbf could be useful since my potato of a phone can't even play levels without using ldm, but yeah robby toppy saying no to a mod that helps potato devices be in the same field as a 144/240hz player is just plain telling us "lol ur device is crap, go buy a newer one"
It makes the game easier than playing on a 240hz monitor.
It. Gives. An. Unfair. Advantage. Towards. People. That. Play. The. Game. How. It's. Meant. To. Be. Played.
@@simo_viewer_pr9030the game is already unfair to low end devices, cbf would literally reduce this among top play
@@Icedonot Better hardware will always be better. It completely mmisses the point though. CBF gives an unfaire advantage over people who play the game normally. That's cheating.
@@falkeborg9432 You can only be consistent if you applied this same reasoning to the FPS bypass in 2.1. And no, the FPS bypass was not the same as monitors, for 2 reasons:
1. The bypass was BETTER, because you using it with vsync off gave a less input delay than playing with the equivalent monitor with vsync on.
2. If vanilla GD had a bug where some hardware caused vanilla noclip, would noclip then have to be accepted, according to your logic? See how it makes zero sense to use "hardware vs software" as the basis for determining what is a cheat and what is not a cheat?
Honestly the Click Between Frames mod is great, it levels the advantage people have with 144hz and 240hz monitors and allows for an "even play field". As some people said it's like the FPS bypass thing but 2024
3:28 - when you put too high fps
0:40 i have a feeling its gonna be like the click on steps mod. which makes your physics be 240 no matter the fps, so you could be playing on 5 fps and it would be the same as 240
Apart from the right-clicking and the option to change physics, what does CBF do? It changes literally nothing in my GD, except for some momentum bugs in platformer, and the fact that pausing the game clicking the pause button makes the player jump
1:31 oh no the time travelers got wulzy too o_o
1:50 yooo that fire bro
Why is it that every game that has someone make something related to heaven a near impossible task. Like damn bro if thats how difficult it is to get to heaven then, we all cooked 💀
lol
0:04 Hello!
1:52 song name plz i forgot :(
Woo doo doo doo doo (du du du du, du du du) woo doo doo dooo doo
My ❤️!! By different heaven I think
No its bike rides by the green orbs @@khuzaimaZahid
@@superr72What?
@@ianeonzdumbass it’s Different Heaven & EH!DE - My Heart [NCS Release]
2:15 "I'm tired of hell themed levels, why can't there be a heaven themed level?"
I bet the reason why they allowed the click between frames mod on the demon list is because it literally breaks every bot. Botting softwares just get broken with click between frames.
I can’t stop watching these videos, they’re so addictive.
At this point we should just take GD away from Rob so he can't keep ruining it
I wonder what doggies gonna do abt that
He's still going to beat it
It feels like rob doesn’t want cbf added because he didn’t make it. There’s no reason for him not to add exactly how it is but he decided “no I’ll make my own probably worse version of it”
he's lazy and doesn't care about the community
What is the song in 1:50 ?
Different Heaven and Eh!de - My Heart
I now have a list of things about RobTop that I don't like.
That list only has one thing right now.
Based.
1:46 I hope one day a top player uses my replacement song to beat aerial gleam lol
I heard a guy named fusion435 did it lol
Song name?
@@RandomGuy-7778 EH!DE - My Heart
Some perspective i think ppl need is that virtually every other precision-input based game effectively has CBF by default - the input device's poll rate is the limiting factor in precision. GD is actually the weird outlier, only checking inputs as often as FPS/TPS for some reason.
Pretty good point for no-CBF
@@onionsanshow is that a point AGAINST cbf?
@@DOG_EATER_1887 because it shows that it was robtop's personal decision to not have the game run like CBF, therefore it is clearly not allowed
@@onionsans I doubt it's because he had anything against people playing with cbf though, he's gonna change it to that so clearly he has no problem with the concept. There was prolly some circumstances while programming unrelated to all this when he originally made the game that we don't know abt
@@DOG_EATER_1887 robtop has spoken against CBF. The implemented CBF will likely be nothing like the CBF used now
my guess is that rob will add click on steps, a mod that registers clicks on each physics step instead of each visual frame, making it so low end players have the benefit of being able to play on 60 with higher input polling rate, without giving high end players the benefit of the physics changes
That's nice, but still not good enough.
The problem with verifying levels now is that if you use cbf it will be allowed by the demon list however the level won’t actually be able to go on the list until it’s rated and it’s not getting rated bc robtop doesn’t like it
2:05 yo that goes harddddd
I also found smth interesting
In treasure room, if you dont whave enough keys, you will click chests that will require more ane more keys, the gatekeeper face will be confused even more
I hope the cbf issue finally makes the demonlist allow unrated levels when doggie verifies grief with cbf and rob doesnt rate it
Thing is, then a lot of layouts would be made which imo would make the list more boring
@@falkeborg9432 There are already less popular demon lists that include unrates but already account for this problem. You can decide for yourself what is worthy and what is not, without blindly following all the decisions of one guy.
I love the fact that he goes out of his way to make these SICK intros
It feels like ever since 2.2 released there has been controversy after controversy
Ngl I think that it makes sense for the reason that cbf would be aloud for level verification because it makes certain levels verified with cbf possibly impossible or harder on a device that can’t get the mod
as someone who cannot play above 60fps without screen tearing (which is annoying and makes the game like unplayable) click between frames good
As a 60hz player I get horrible tearing on 60fps but barely no tearing on 120fps lol
0:01 my best intro
Anyone able to find the source material for the physics based bridge clip at 3:13? while it was submitted by "gaywhamofeet" ive been looking and cant find anyone with that name, and its not clear if they made the bridge or if they were just the one who submitted it to discord.
That was me and I made the bridge using advanced follow triggers and my username is gaywhamofeet idk why you can't find me
3:29 I think that’s due to fps because the higher the fps the faster it takes for the cube to stop moving
Hey I’m the person who submitted that clip and on that recording was the level Disillusionment by JiJangs. That bug happened because of a mirror portal at 21% which had a gravity portal attached to it, which caused those weird blue lines to be on the screen in the clip. It only happens rarely though. In the final ship part where the level says Thank You, the frame my cube entered that ship portal this weird blue circle appeared around my character which I think only happens because of those blue lines. When I hit that gravity portal I guess something went wrong in the code which led to me just simply not completing the level. This is very rare and has only happened to me 1 other time. This is not modded, and I play on Mobile 60hz, so I don’t think it was related to FPS.
I think rob has misunderstood how cbf works. It literally doesn't affect the physics at all. Only allows you to click between frames
2:17 “one of the best” I think you meant the best
I think that demonlist allowing cbf will start a divide between levels being rated and being placed on the list. Tidal Wave situation already anoyed so much people. Even the demonlist in their cbf statement said that it's a possibility.
Level placements on the demonlist shouldn't have been tied to a level's rating in the first place imo
There is already a list that has unrated levels
@@falkeborg9432 ye but Pointercrate is by far the most popular one, and it only ranks rated levels, which only causes problems. When Tidal Wave got verified, players only started to care about it when it got rated so that it can be placed on the list, and they get the ability to submit their records. So many unrated levels like Diabolic Clubstep, despite being verified and having a rate-worthy decoration, are practically unknown solely because they can't be placed on the list. No rate - no placement - and everyone's reaction is as if the level never even existed
@@IlTechnoDashlI Players cared way before it got rated, and that’s mainly the reason it got rated in the first place. While I agree with your other points, including unrated levels would probably make the list a lot more boring since people would start uploading layouts for the list
@@falkeborg9432 my point about Tidal Wave is that when it got verified, people began waiting for its rate before getting to play it. Most of the significant progress and completions began to happen Only after it got rated
Well, the purpose of this kind of list is to archive most impressive player achievements, not to highlight levels of specific difficulty, even if global GD community thinks otherwise. I think that it should place everything legitimately completed, including layouts and challenges, to demonstrate WHO has beaten the hardest thing in a game, instead of promoting levels
ok maybe not cbf but how about cb lag spike cause I always die during those
Finally you using my intro, thx lmao
The demon list unbanned Click between frames mod
no shit sherlock
Doesn’t change that only non-modded verifications count
1:19 imagine 3d printing and a jumpscare comes out as the final result
Edit: I also wanna see someone ask rob about click on steps (like cbf but without physics bypass and is on mobile too)
There's some things to note about click between frames being implemented in vanilla. First off is something Rob already mentioned, it might not be viable for all platforms. Click between frames is currently only available on Windows, and there is no guarantee it'll be possible to implement on other platforms (especially iOS, maybe Android). Next is, contrary to what some people seem to believe, Click Between Frames _does_ change physics. Now, it is certainly a much smaller impact than something like TPS bypass but it is worth remembering. It likely isn't a small effort to implement bug-free, but this one, at least, should be entirely doable.
An alternative for leveling the playing field would be what qimiko's Click on Steps mod does. That is, change input from being read every frame to every physics step. This is likely easier to implement as this behaviour is a prerequisite for Click Between Frames (ok, they're not technically the same, but my point still stands). Although, this would only level the playing field for those playing on less than 240fps as opposed to elevating the skill ceiling which I think most players actually want.
Sanest coment here
Do 60hz phones even register inputs more often than 60hz?
Ge said he'll be adding his own version of cbf which (hopefully) will be on all platforms. Maybe more similar to cos
@@falkeborg9432 most do, yeah.
So if doggie verifys grief with cbf robtop won’t rate it even if it’s the new hardest level?
Yea
Rob doesn’t care how hard it is
If this channel was made in 2014-2015, it would be the FPS bypass controversy instead
3:10 who knows the name of this song?
I swear people are never gonna shut up about this cbf mod. I just see it as an extra tool to improve your input precision similar to the fps bypass situation
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I don’t see it similar to fps bypass since you can get the effect of fps bypass with vanilla gd (by using a higher hz monitor). Cbf is something nobody in vanilla could replicate.
Yes I do think saying “just get a high hz monitor” is dumb, and is a good reason for fps bypass. But it isn’t comparable to cbf bc of that imo
@@txtronixgd7373 fps bypass basically removes the concept of fps bound inputs, in theory you could get cbf by using a 1000hz monitor, while they dont exist rn they probably will at some point.
The biggest difference between fps bypass and cbf is that cbf helps low end hardware way more because you dont need to be able to hit those high fps counts.
The thing is fps bypass has an equivalent: better hardware. Cbf doesn’t. It gives an advantage over ALL vanilla players.
As someone who is against CBF, I was also not a supporter of unofficial FPS bypass, because of the same reason: external tools that give an unfair advantage towards players that play the vanilla game should be considered cheating and not be allowed. CBF would be great if it was implemented inside the game itself by RobTop, but until that point it absolutely should not be allowed.
cbf the most controversial mod and then u get me: cbf making literally no difference to my playing
2:05 is really catchy idk why
hello everyone this is your weekly controversy of cbf...
Imo i think the "cbf" rob is adding to vanilla gd will be more like the physics changes in 2.200 to make the game fairer for everyone, only that rob's "cbf at home" will do a much better job at that _(if it turns out well, that is.)_ since it isnt limited to each frame
In my opinion, cbf SHOULD be allowed to the game, and the main reason is that you dont need to buy a super expensive monitor just to have higher frames or even a super expensive pc in general
I dont find it to be "cheating" bcs is not like cbf gonna make the level free or something, you also need to be good at the game to feel the advantages
Frames are locked at 240 lol there's no need for expensive monitor
It bypasses the 240tps limit which limits high end pcs
I'm not a GD expert so could someone explain how CBF would change the game's physics ? Doesn't it just allow anybody to click accurately without the need for an incredible PC ?
Well, Robtop did rate How To Clutterfunk, so you never know!
I see where rob is coming from but I still think he is making a bad choice.
By adding it to the game?
1:21 im not trying to hate, but i have tried something like that myself with the tartarus first jump but it also has multicolor printing to make the outlines jump out and it's a lot bigger. I wish i could share it in the gd discord but i don't have a high enough rank to post it. Edit: nvm I'll do it in the ddogd server Edit 2: WHY TF DID I COMMENT THIS SHUT UP OLD ME
rob top just ain’t paying attention to the community
He answered the question, so yes he is
@@onionsans bro i meant like the community wants it but he just won’t allow it like bro, JUST ADD CBF ALREADY GOD DAMN.
@@CIG_AND_FORTSI so you're saying that since robtop disagreed with a bunch of people, he is ignoring them?
@@onionsans technically yes
@@CIG_AND_FORTSI that logic is ridiculous
1:46 level name?
2:15 If that gets mythic there goes my streak of beating all mythical levels.
1:48 what is the name of the song?
Different heaven - My heart
@@IlTechnoDashlI thanks
What is the 1:51 song called
accession to heaven obj count be like 3 mil
I subbed just because of what you did to aerial gleam lmao
i realized if you can click between frames, you will continue to see the exact fps you set it at, put the in/output will be as infinite fps.
Ascension to Heaven is genuinely one of the best levels ever
0:35 Wait didn't everyone say cbf didn't change physics?
It doesn't
It makes some impossible jumps possible, which in my opinion is cheating
@@falkeborg9432 hardest?
@@falkeborg9432its not an opinion its a fucking fact
2:40 that song 😭😭
The golden trap remix is fire 🔥
Hello! This is your daily dose of Geometry Jump
That intro is amazing lmao
The song's called my heart btw
I dont mind click between frames, cause it doesn't affect me (im on mobile, and my hardest is only nc)
i don't think cbf really affects more easier levels, especially on mobile