Can Israel ignore the pressure? International condemnation swells after Rafah offensive
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- Can Israel ignore the pressure? Young people outraged by the graphic images of the Rafah tent fire that killed dozens of civilians are out in the streets of Paris and Marseille, this as Ireland, Norway and Spain recognise a Palestinian state and international courts mount cases over the war in Gaza.
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Why are only young people outraged? The entire world should be outraged.
That’s what US serviceman Aaron Bushnell was trying to tell us!
I am not young and I am outraged !
Young people are outraged because you are ignorant of History. 1984 book ignorant youth means these are easily manipulated by communist, Marxist other left
Some seniors are also outraged. According to polls, over half of the United States citizens are outraged.
Because they are the easiest to indoctrinate. As you get older your objective thinking kicks in and you have a clearer view of the world. Why do you think the Iranian propoganda machine is targeting social media and universities?
There is no double standard. The US committed war crimes, and we demonstrated against it. However, the U.S. did not bar international war correspondents/press from covering the conflict.
You are blind
As an American, thank you for covering this. The propaganda here is so depressing and our leaders are mostly so terrible.
LoL at the idea that only Isral is singled out
Those 62% young Palestinian men questioned a year ago and having no allegiance, if they are still living after all the recent bombings and 36,000 of their people gone, may now have a different perspective seeing their world shattered and the entirety of Gaza reduced to rubble. John and Jasmine are right, the criticism of the IDF and its actions are fully warranted under international law and from a moral argument too.
1920 was the right time for Palestinians to have their own state. But the English and French had other thoughts.
I despise all the deflections to other wars it's like their best argument besides claiming you're automatically an antisemit for criticizing the politics of a secular state as they love to claim to be.
This old man is playing game in innocent children of Gaza...?
We will never forget..
Palestine too as well world
That’s what US serviceman Aaron Bushnell was trying to tell us!
Thank you, Jasmine el-Gama, for your intelligent and articulate assessment in stark contrast to the cowards still pushing an apologist narrative. Much respect 🤘Well done to John Lydon for pushing back on the arrogant Ekovich guy at the end.
Me: looking....looking...looking. what happened to that $320 million temporary dock MSM???? I don't see it?
MSM: It sank.
Me: How?
MSM: *crickets..
@@stupidminotaur9735 Reality is, that the temporary pier has been damaged because of high sea states / weather conditions ...
Any point you are trying to make?
@@kurtwicklund8901 total waste of Americans taxpayers money
It's a shame but I remember that wind power installations off the coast of Germany faced similar setbacks at first. They are now firmly in place and supplying energy.
@@kurtwicklund8901he doesn’t know that it is being repaired. The news didn’t get to him. What a shame!
@jasmineelgamal I applaud your balanced and sensible thoughts, ideas and responses. Truly the most sense I've heard from anybody in the last 8 months. The zero sum game is so correct, and the idea that recognising Palestine as a state would take the wind out of Hamas, cos that's the last thing they want. Brilliant 👏👌
What Irris Makler said about Palestinians having no regard for 10/7 is false. Watch footage from Al Jazeera, for example, and every single report about 10/7 expresses outrage about the atrocities and the need to bring the perpetrators to justice.
Irris also still believes a lot of the mischaracterization (lies) about what happened in those hours - a lot of people understandably believe the narrative about widespread rapes committed by Hamas (they imagine no one certainly not a western ally state would lie so heinously about something so serious) 🤷♂️ it's Israel's 'super predator' moment against the Palestinians (whites used to do it all the time against blacks in America)
A Palestinian condemning Hamas?
Jasmine el-Gamal is 100% correct. Neither Netanyahu nor Hamas want a two-state solution.
H doesn’t want it but has said they would accept it if it was the decision of a democratic decision made by the Palestinian people.
how on earth is this ekovich a professor anywhere
What a smart woman 👏👏👏
Biden to Izreal: DON’T DON’T Don’t
Izreal: will will will
Haaretz is a good example of Jews who balance security with human rights. It is well worth reading if you are interested in the Middle East.
Because of Gideon Levy still writing in it...
That is correct Sister you are right
Apparently, people forget that Palestinians are ethnically a semitic people
Great conversation! Thank you
Shame on anyone who still supports what Israel is doing.
Shame on anyone who supports Hamas.
@@phil20_20conflating hamas with Palestinians is hypocritical. Palestinians are dying unless to you Palestinians aren't humans
@@phil20_20 Do you think they are mutually exclusive?
@@phil20_20Palestinian kids aren't Hamas you dimwit! You're systematic lies are laughable 😂😂😂
@@phil20_20 Considering what i've heard and read over the months, Israel had backed Hamas into a corner for them to do what they did. Was there another route for them to move towards a sovereign Palestine? All else failed! Even the peaceful way failed, for that, they got a violent response from Israel govt. I refer to the peaceful march for the rights to return a few years ago. So what other options do they have? You and I would do the same. Yes, we would.
the court finally grew some balls... change has stated.. and its very welcome
If eyes were really on Rafah then the world would be aware that Hamas has. been continuing to conduct attacks from Rafah, including rocket strikes on Israel. How could any country ignore that?
That old guy pronounces common Arabic words so weird. Where is he from? The 1800s?
Kirby says,,"we still dont want to see..." it is not "still' it is a moving red line
Waste of time with the old man.
Jasmine el-Gamal is so correct. Heads of Israeli government have been saying "from the river to the sea" and showing a map of it just being Israel. Even BiBi says it. Western governments have been saying "when the time is right" for years. Same old excuse.
A few points I like to make to one of the speakers.
1. the world was not short of outcry when US attacked Iraq on at best shaky grounds, at worst on a lie. My self included as an American citizen. So no this is outrage on human grounds not due to anti-Semitism. You can't just always hide behind the universal anti-semitism shield and not be held responsible for your actions.
2. After seeing and comparing images of US strikes in Iraq and Israeli strikes in GAZA it's VERY to clear to see Israel simply leveled blocks after blocks while the US targeted building by building, so in fact the US, while by no means perfect, conducted much more targeted strikes and attempted to avoid collective punishment. Unfortunately it also sparked a civil war which lead to 1/4 to half a million deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan over nearly a decade of conflict. If it were up to me Bush Jr. Would be tried in a tribunal for war crimes as should BB and leaders of Hamas, Hamas militants who participated on october 7th and Israeli soldiers who knowingly killed civilians (especially in mass).
steven ekovich is talking nonsense. Palestinians are the most educated in the middle east, even literacy rate higher than Israel. under discrimination Israeli 20% palestinians are 50% of Israels doctors and other medical related hold post. Why Palestinians Are Known as the World’s “Best Educated Refugees”(Colombia university blog)
Amazing interview
My continued question is. Where's the UN in all of this? This brings me back to Bosnia/Serbis where geneside was happening. A UN international peacekeeping force was sent in. Then and only then could peace talks begin. Israeli's and Palestinians will never find peace until BOTH loose control over the other. The UN can make this happen by taking control of all present land occupied by Palestinians. This would eliminate Hamas control, which would please Israeli's and would stop the slaughter of innocent Palestinians by Israel, which would please the Palestinians. Result would bring temporary forced peace. Then, and only then, can talks of more permanent peace.begin.
Too late…😊😅😂❤
Whats a usefull time macron ??? Lip service
From: JAMAICA! Glory To Israel!!!
Israel has plenty of government problems, Hamas agreed to the 1967 borders, but Bibi’s party has for years said there will never be an Israel and have “from the river to the sea” in their own documents, they are way more extreme about that then the Palestinians!
how about Paris bans them from the Olympics to start with before all Africa boycotts it therre is plenty our govts could do easily with not much cost to us but send the warmongers a strong message
Palestinians have been undergoing Oct 7's for 75 years
I think if they can prove Hamas is using the Egyptian border for logistics, then they have just pulled a rabbit out of their hats. It would also imply some level of Egyptian complicity, either through corruption or poor administration.
Is it? The reality is hamas weapons are locally made from stuff found in Gaza. Hamas regularly broadcasts it's factories and where and hows of making their weapons and training all publicly
Of course stuff too comes from outside Gaza just like in any prison anywhere no matter the security level stuff always get through!
Israel blaming it's shortcomings on Egypt is ludicrous! Israel always knew hamas was armed against it yet they still gave it cash
Hms is definitely using the Egyptian border for logistics. How does that change anything?
award- winning journalist
Irris makler: international press wouldn't have made any difference
What a clever woman!
I am disgusted of israel state and VS same lying and not truly intervering. What a sick politic world
Israel has conducted 100s of October 7 prior to October 7. So where was the condemnation for Israel’s illegal brutal occupation of Palestinians?
What? Are you joking? Hamas warned the civilians they tied up and burned alive days in advance, via millions of texts, calls, and pamphlets? I would get to a clock repair shop asap as your moral compass is smashed.
It's a tricky situation. It is probably best to move carefully even if drawing out the conflict for many months. Social media attention is short-lived and needs significant escalation to be sustained. At the current level of military activity it will be waning.
France 24 deserves credit for their coverage of the war in Gazah. They have consistently allowed different parties to present their views and as a result and as a part of this debate I think we saw the potential for a pathway forward - one that would strengthen the voices in civil society on both sides of the conflict that seek peace based on shared values.
Of course the only reasonable and sensible voice here is the only woman.
And the Irish guy... Did you even listen to him.
btw the theory of making 710 a day of independence by recognizing Palestine is a very very interesting theory , it sounds like he KNOWS that it has happened before. Hasn't it ? When was it ? Let me think ... hmmmm... 1948 Nakba ? LOL
how this steven guy is a prof
Why did they call it the rafa tent fire? It was a rafah refugee camp bombing
Netanyahu destroyed Gaza but also he destroyed Israel, there's no coming back from this
100
He's protecting Isreal
Is there coming back from Hamas then? Because Israelis are not Netaniahu and do want to take him down, but I don't see the same on the other side. Cause leader you can get ridd of, but a hateful ideology... it's somewhat harder.
Well, dear Cenk, you wouldn’t dare to talk in your country , as you do in America. Criticising the President and his wife? No way.
It is absurd to suggest there won’t be any Palestinians left.
So some pic got shared by people & bots and it becomes a real issue?
Ironic coming from a pro-Israeli bot
The entire world is against the Israeli regime, every single country has massive protests , so yes you have a real issue
Isral hasn’t shown its capable of decent governance.
We should all be well past condemnation by now.
Disempower Netanyahu. He's unhinged.
Seriously.
Stop this Rhetoric as both sides suffer, this anger me so much. Why do they keep saying equal side suffer, WHERE does Israelis suffer how can they even its equal
Can a foreign ethnic group purchase 25 % of European land & eventually claim that part of Europe as their own & claim a new nation state there. If you accept this you will also have to accept what Russia is doing in Ukraine. This is still ongoing in parts of Jerusalem.
The difference is that earlier there was not much social media and the atrocities of the western media was politically filtered and lots of people- were kept in the dark.
What you guys thought is not difficult to make a Palestine state , there is already state hood existing, they need same support when Israel was got ,
This is a right time to recognize and go ahead
The problem here is America standing firmly behind a rogue state blinded by its own suffering and past trauma or indifferent to an enemy they wish to erase.
#Alleyesonrafah
The anger about Gaza death and injury is nothing to do with antisemitism. And people who argue this are pretty much deluding themselves wilfully, or if they actually do believe this they are wrong.
The US should stop supplying Hms with weapons.
Likkud has the slogan "From the River to the Sea" ... but that's not recognised by most as being a call for ethnic cleansing ...
Well, they ignore basic human decency and compassion so they can probably ignore just about anything else.
From the RIVER To the SEA!!! Palestine will be free
It s a non sens, if others committed crimes and got any with it, then Israel have the right to commit this crime ?
Ecovich... LoL
Only path forward is 2 states solution, negotiated between the two parties.
apologists' framing ...and clearly send in the blue hats (UN).
Didn’t Ezrah arrest arab-Israyliz who reported images of Rafah ?
you invited a guy from the american university. Good job
Jasmine it’s ok for you to say because you are not Israelis
The purple shirt guy is an absolute clown. Thinks he understands apartheid? His points are absolutely terrible.
It both can and will - Oct 7 and tunnelers = no red lines or laws that limit
They will eventually give in to the pressure but before that they will first lose this war HAMAS.Apparently they are losing so many soldiers in GAZA and receiving many critically and permanently injured soldiers.Then they will give in.
2:17 I always hate this guest. He's always smacking his mouth which is unnerving. Someone needs to tell him to stop it.
That AI thumbnail is really ugly
Why do this old man keep saying fire took place... they freking bomb rafah.
The internet wasn't as widespread as it is now during the other wars. Now everyone has Camaras and uploads instantly to the web. It isn't that it is Isreal, it is the times of the internet and instant visibility of what is happening.
The arguments these devils make now a days can not hold water. Reminds me of a song, their is a hole in the bucket dear Lisa, dear Lisa, a hole in the bucket, dear Lisa, a hole. Everyone knows they are lying, only this generation is the wisest in history, even the poorest people on earth are wiser than the wisest people in power. This is the fair truth of it. Students and sometimes faculty are wiser than those who run universities. The rich and powerful have all become blithering idiots. Defending the indefensible. Here is why...
Titus 1:15 "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled."
Yes it will continue to ignore the pressure coz it is spineless shameless war criminal
I want to hear opinions. If Israel hypothetically had a choice, would they prefer Palestinians to live in Gaza or the West Bank? What would benefit Israel? They can only choose one.
If France doesn't recognize Palestine as a state, then how can flying a Palestinian flag be punished as brandishing a flag from a different country? If anything, it would be akin to flying, say, a rainbow flag. The hypocrisy is painful.
Yes! USA will support Israel no matter what! This is all a show
Of course they can, they're inhuman.
It was a targeted attack.
does a video on western double standard on isreal vs russia
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Israel! ignore Hamas and concentrate on Twitter trends.
It’s ALWAYS Antisemitism, it’s NEVER Israel’s own actions. Give me a break 🙄
There needs to be freedom, self determination and justice for the Palestinian people. They have endured 75 years of brutal occupation and barbaric treatment by Israelis. Until then, there will never be peace
Never again! _er..._
Can Israel afford stop fighting for its survival? This is the first question. How can you be so out of touch to turn the question into a debatable issue? It is the second question. Because Hamas made it very clear Israel had no such option.
Fake.
28:47
Is there a policy for the terrorist?
We will never forget. We will never forgive. Long live palestine.
Glory To Israel!!!
Spain norway no more NATO
Your turn is coming Europe and America
did Macron call for a Kanak state