You are eligible for parole on the date the judge decides. In violent cases often times the sentence (in this case it was 16 years) is the minimum before being eligible for parole. In reality those 16 became 18, that is he had 2 added (possibly for aggravating circumstances). So 18 is the MINIMUM before being even considered for release on parole. On the opposite end, if the crime is light and the circumstances call for leniency then the judge may set the parole early and therefore reduce the sentence. Some people serve as little as a third.
@@PeterLarter81 Well I already felt it was getting too deep so I didn't go in to all the intricacies. However, you are right. I was just trying to simplify a complexed system so it was understandable.
If you get sentenced for a murder they give u mandatory life with a recommended tariff, so he will serve 18 and then go for parole if he gets out after that he's got the rest of his life on probation. And all violent crimes in UK now you have to serve a minimum of 2 thirds before release.
His brother didn't even do it, they put the blades in his rucksack. The whole conspiracy thing here is crazy. 16 years for his mate that wasn't even there is just mental.
You don't get the half time off anymore. It's a lot more complicated these days. Private prisons are a thing over here too. You also have to admit guilt to get time off your sentence.
@@PeterLarter81 his brother got done for a murder. You can’t do half a sentence on a murder charge, you have to spend a minimum 18-20 years before parole is even considered.
Any other crime from manslaughter to below then you do half the sentence inside, then half on license or tag … depending on the crime and risk to the public etc
For murders and high crimes, when you get big sentences you normally have to do the whole thing, it all depends on what the judge says on the day, if he says minimum term of 18 years or 30 years, that’s the minimum they have to do, after they have to ask if they can come out once every year. Some people never come out cuz they are just on badness in jail so they just keep getting denied parole
depending on the the severity of the crime and the judge you get depends on the time you get some ppl serve ten years after taking a life some serve 40,some never come out. bro some would serve 6 years without even being sentenced yet then get they 20 and have to serve it all. its complicated and weird I know lol
He got 18 as part of a joint enterprise there was about 30 of them I don’t even think even did the stabbing he was just in the group of 30 there’s a documentary on the murder happened at a London train station
It's different here for violent crimes and murders. They set what they call a tarrif that you have to serve so he probably got 25years or something with a 18 year tarrif he has to serve that as a minimum.
I rate these guys for really deeping bars, the shit hits the fan bar wasn’t word play that’s a common saying in the UK which means things get messy cos you can imagine if you threw shit at a fan it would leave a mess everywhere, and flushing is just about flushing packs down the toilet when the doors coming off
His brother did the whole sentence and was sentenced the most out of the group because the knife that was used to kill the victim was in his brother's bag
If it's a super violent crime like Murder, and you are an adult you have no chance of doing half on good behaviour, you have to serve the full sentence, which is honestly completely deserved especially in the case with Dave's brother, His brother was 18 at the time when him and and his gang savegely slaughtered an innocent 15 year old kid that was never street or gang affiliated. He was a good kid that really cared about his education. They stabbed him 9 times and stomped on his head numerous times because a girl he had been seeing set him up, lying to the gang and lying to the 15 year old victim, she showed up with a group of actual men from a gang in her area, the fact that these adults were clearly messing with a young girl was super weird to begin with. Dave's brother was the one that did the most stabbing, as the oldest man there, against a little kid. He should never be allowed out.
You only do half the sentence if it’s less that 10 years and it’s your first offence, for a sentence over 10 years for a violent offence you gotta serve the whole thing
Don't know if anyone's answered but there's 2 life sentences in the UK, Natural Life means you ain't coming out till your dead in a box and 2nd a life sentence which carries a tariff which is given by the judge which is your earliest possible release but you have to demonstrate to a parole board your safe to be released at tariff expiry, if refused you usually go before the parole board no longer than every 3 years after prior refusal but could potentially be kept locked up indefinitely if not deemed safe for release, if ever released your not a free man an remain on licence for the rest of your life and can be recalled to prison if probation deem you a risk, speaking personally I'm never allowed to travel abroad or stay at any other address overnight without prior probation approval any and all relationships must be approved be that work or personal, it is a life sentence believe me whether I'm in prison or not. GG's
You can get lifed off and do half your sentence on good behavior, but be relesed on Charges and IPP. IPP is a 99yr license and probation where if you break any laws even nicking a mars bar you get sent straight back to jail, could be little as 3months or 7yrs. You could be in there indefinitely
Dave reactions are the ones trust me
...and it's still my favourite Bl@ckbox ever all these years later. Pure pain and passion.
You are eligible for parole on the date the judge decides. In violent cases often times the sentence (in this case it was 16 years) is the minimum before being eligible for parole. In reality those 16 became 18, that is he had 2 added (possibly for aggravating circumstances). So 18 is the MINIMUM before being even considered for release on parole. On the opposite end, if the crime is light and the circumstances call for leniency then the judge may set the parole early and therefore reduce the sentence. Some people serve as little as a third.
@@Ecstasio you serve a 3rd to get to Dcat (open prison) you don’t get out after no 3rd of a sentence
@@PeterLarter81 Well I already felt it was getting too deep so I didn't go in to all the intricacies. However, you are right. I was just trying to simplify a complexed system so it was understandable.
@@Ecstasio it only because that was the earliest I could go to one , peace ecstasio
Always comes on at an afters
The fact dave wrote this at 16 blows my mind. Btw shout out yous most man don’t catch some of these bars
A kid way ahead of his time don’t see that these days
If you get sentenced for a murder they give u mandatory life with a recommended tariff, so he will serve 18 and then go for parole if he gets out after that he's got the rest of his life on probation. And all violent crimes in UK now you have to serve a minimum of 2 thirds before release.
correct and as I said tho depending on the severity of the crime and the judge too
And he won't get his 1st parole more than likely
The fact that was one of the biggest cases of its time them boys were made examples of
His brother didn't even do it, they put the blades in his rucksack. The whole conspiracy thing here is crazy. 16 years for his mate that wasn't even there is just mental.
“Our moneys” (Armani’s) clean the visions never cloudy so know what “I’m on clear” (moncler) you trappin for designer🔥
The goat in action , Dave was goated from young fam
Meech gang
real recognise real potter a 🐐 fr
dave will always be an amazing lyrical artist, i love him sm and he has accomplished so much and im proud of him and the man he has become today.
Bro you been on the yayo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dave is a true poet and musician. He is UK's 2pac or Kendrick!
Streatham represent 👊
Unicorn- Unique Corn bar is SICK! And the designer bar. Armani(Our money) and I am on clear(Moncler).
You don't get the half time off anymore. It's a lot more complicated these days. Private prisons are a thing over here too. You also have to admit guilt to get time off your sentence.
No you don’t fam , who said that ?
@@PeterLarter81 his brother got done for a murder. You can’t do half a sentence on a murder charge, you have to spend a minimum 18-20 years before parole is even considered.
Any other crime from manslaughter to below then you do half the sentence inside, then half on license or tag … depending on the crime and risk to the public etc
@@Crobbo93825 yea tha what I was saying , I ain’t long finished a 5 and I only done 2 and half
@@Crobbo93825 yea it a tariff then and it rare to get your first parole hearing
His other blackbox freestyle is fire too, it’s on his own page
People seems to catch the Moncler bar wrong, he's saying "know what i'm on clear" like "don't misunderstand me"
For murders and high crimes, when you get big sentences you normally have to do the whole thing, it all depends on what the judge says on the day, if he says minimum term of 18 years or 30 years, that’s the minimum they have to do, after they have to ask if they can come out once every year. Some people never come out cuz they are just on badness in jail so they just keep getting denied parole
depending on the the severity of the crime and the judge you get depends on the time you get some ppl serve ten years after taking a life some serve 40,some never come out. bro some would serve 6 years without even being sentenced yet then get they 20 and have to serve it all. its complicated and weird I know lol
He got 18 as part of a joint enterprise there was about 30 of them I don’t even think even did the stabbing he was just in the group of 30 there’s a documentary on the murder happened at a London train station
It's different here for violent crimes and murders. They set what they call a tarrif that you have to serve so he probably got 25years or something with a 18 year tarrif he has to serve that as a minimum.
Ookok thanks for the info ... definitely helpful
I rate these guys for really deeping bars, the shit hits the fan bar wasn’t word play that’s a common saying in the UK which means things get messy cos you can imagine if you threw shit at a fan it would leave a mess everywhere, and flushing is just about flushing packs down the toilet when the doors coming off
U one of them smarter American reaction channels. Most of them don’t even catch bars and just overreact. 🔥
Dave is world class. On a different level. End of..
For murder you don’t do half a sentence in uk you do full
Sentence for a murder
Murder is 25... earliest release date is 18 years
His brother did the whole sentence and was sentenced the most out of the group because the knife that was used to kill the victim was in his brother's bag
On murders it’s a minimum term, so 18 year minimum, they can keep you longer if you are deemed a risk
If it's a super violent crime like Murder, and you are an adult you have no chance of doing half on good behaviour, you have to serve the full sentence, which is honestly completely deserved especially in the case with Dave's brother,
His brother was 18 at the time when him and and his gang savegely slaughtered an innocent 15 year old kid that was never street or gang affiliated. He was a good kid that really cared about his education.
They stabbed him 9 times and stomped on his head numerous times because a girl he had been seeing set him up, lying to the gang and lying to the 15 year old victim, she showed up with a group of actual men from a gang in her area, the fact that these adults were clearly messing with a young girl was super weird to begin with. Dave's brother was the one that did the most stabbing, as the oldest man there, against a little kid. He should never be allowed out.
over here its X ammount to life> so his brother got 18 years minimum to serve before parole ect.
like sj got 21 to life so he can get parole after 21 years
Best blackbox and it’s a 16 year olds first studio track haha
You only do half the sentence if it’s less that 10 years and it’s your first offence, for a sentence over 10 years for a violent offence you gotta serve the whole thing
Don't know if anyone's answered but there's 2 life sentences in the UK, Natural Life means you ain't coming out till your dead in a box and 2nd a life sentence which carries a tariff which is given by the judge which is your earliest possible release but you have to demonstrate to a parole board your safe to be released at tariff expiry, if refused you usually go before the parole board no longer than every 3 years after prior refusal but could potentially be kept locked up indefinitely if not deemed safe for release, if ever released your not a free man an remain on licence for the rest of your life and can be recalled to prison if probation deem you a risk, speaking personally I'm never allowed to travel abroad or stay at any other address overnight without prior probation approval any and all relationships must be approved be that work or personal, it is a life sentence believe me whether I'm in prison or not. GG's
no half sentence ... most probs went NG ..... so u do full sentence if u get found guilty ...... dave is cold ... proper MC
Anything under 10 years you do half over 10 ¾ so do 14 if he good
Serve full term for murder
If it’s under 10 you do half anything else you gotta ride that
Hence uk rappers say get 10 do 5 for the hand ting
You can get lifed off and do half your sentence on good behavior, but be relesed on Charges and IPP.
IPP is a 99yr license and probation where if you break any laws even nicking a mars bar you get sent straight back to jail, could be little as 3months or 7yrs. You could be in there indefinitely
Brother potter payper best? I’ve never heard anyone who knows anything about uk music say that in life😂 n all I do is listen to music
😭😭 bro tried to slip in potter payper, I'm dead 😂
Potter paypers your favourite rappers favourite rapper🥱
Pulling strings from up in Highdown...... HMP highdown Is a YO Prison 'Youth offenders'
I think you only get half time for good behaviour if your sentence is under 10 years might not be right though
From what I want from rap this is his best, also my top 3 is bam bam Snap Capone and Dave and potter number 3