Horse having a seizure.
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- My horse Mae having a seizure. She was seizure-free for months. She is under the care of a vet and normally in an arena in case of these episodes. Another horse was exercising and she was put up here in the spare pen. We are once again trying to determine why these are happening. Please note: She did NOT hurt herself. The limping near the end is residual effects. After her seizure completed, she went right back to normal.
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Poor girl ! You feel so helpless !
I’m quite glad to find someone who’s not dumb enough to try and help an animal who is having a seizure, much less a 1,000 pound animal’s seizure.
A lot of horse people I know have tried to “help” the horse, and they end up with broken bones or death because of the horse running straight into them or crushing them.
I’m glad the horse itself is ok, and I’d say you handled it quite well 😊
Multi-Fandomist No kidding! I'd say it's common sense, but it's not so common anymore. Thankfully these episodes happen mostly at feeding time so it's relatively easy to 'predict'. We take precautions, always. Only three people are allowed to handle this mare (besides the vets and their assistants - for whom she misbehaves her worst).
Oh, I bet that's fun to deal with. Though it's good that you at least have time frames for when they happen. Helps with preparation for them. And I hope the vets handle her well, poor baby needs it despite what she may think!
Multi-Fandomist Oh, the vets are SO patient with her. This horse will basically dance with you when on lead. Very respectful. Very responsive. Stays right at you shoulder. Stands for the ferrier. Just add a vet with a syringe and kaplooey... Totally different horse. Her vets are persistent, calm, and knowledgeable so that's a blessing.
That's some damn good vets right there. Though, I wonder if something happened with her and another vet.
Multi-Fandomist Nothing at all out of the normal treatment parameters. NO vet has ever harmed her - we wouldn't have tolerated that. She's like some people who dislike doctors; doesn't like being poked by needles for blood draws. We're thankful for the vets who are patient enough to put up with her 'mare moments'.
Мне так жаль...
Благодарю, что лечите еë. ❤🙏
Aww what a nasty fall she had heartbreaking to watch
Yes, it was hard to watch. :( It was frustrating to be unable to help.
@Kyrah Chavarria you do realize that a fall like that can really injure a horse right? it's not funny
You’re cruel! Hopefully you’ll fall like this with no one to help and you’ll see just what it’s like! I bet you won’t be thinking it’s funny!
Poor baby I hope she is OK
When she went back and over I held my breath. I hope she’s ok!
Natsu Cross I hold my breath every time I watch it. Other than when she has the occasional episode, she's fine. She didn't get a scratch on her. The limping/uneven gait is residual, temporary neurological deficit from the seizure which resolved within minutes and she went right back to eating as if nothing happened. Not a scratch on her. When she feels them coming on, she runs to what she feels is the safest location. Typically she's in a soft arena and she will run right into the center.
Poor sweetie. Tonic clonic are painful-come out of them and whole body hurts from every muscle tensing so hard. Get a migraine and completely exhausted. Here she remains agitated, which is still seizure. Then when she is suddenly calm, she finally came to super tired.
She just wanted a comforting hand when she stood by the fence 😓 poor baby!!
Aw, the poor sweetling. How is she now? Did the vet put her on medication? Hope she's ok
Poor Mae!!! I hope she is better now!! 💜💜
Awww poor Mae, a fall for a horse is not fun.
Thank you I looked this up cause I was recently doing a trail ride where I work and going up a steep embankment, I ensured the horses in front had cleared the embankment. Nearly up the top I feel him losing his footing, I thought he get his feet again... They always do. But no I saw him bash his head on the ground 2 to save himself, then we went over a backwards. I was underneath him for a but, he was dead weight. My Co worker and another rider pulled him me. I walked up the bankment not long after he was conscious again. With a broken eye socket. Thank you I certain he had a seizure, it looked almost identical.. N it did something was weird before that... U kno how u kind become one with the horse your on.. Yes. That's gotta to be what happened.
Poor Girl. Hope she okay. 💜
This broke my heart... We have a horse a pony and a mule and we love them so much. So sorry your horse has to go through these awful things. 😢 hope he’s ok
Poor girl. I hope I never have to see my girl go through this. I’m glad she is ok.
Wow. I have never seen this happend to a horse befor. I hope she is alright :-)
Pia Maria She's fine! Thankfully! It looked bad but after she was finished with her episode, she went right back to eating as if nothing happened. She didn't have a scratch on her.
Aww poor baby, I’m glad she’s doing well 😊
Meu Deus 😮
Hope you all find the cause and remedy for this
I pray for may that she is ok
It's too hot out there that can cost siezure heat dehydration no water or food
Guys shes fine okay
( I hope )
I just came across your video…what happened to her did you find out what was causing them?
Poor baby.
Your voice seemed to help, regardless of what you may hear. My voice was always important to my dog, who would ALWAYS try to get to me when he was having am aura. Gabapentin works (sometimes you have to find a manufacturer whose generics are a little purer. That can be a problem.) Try not to change the manufacturer.
Good luck to you.
HARDBAL Thank you! Yes, talking to epileptic animals really help to bring them out. This seizure was actually her worst one and, thankfully, I was there at the right time to video it. I was happy to FINALLY have evidence to show her vet! They've been researching medication options for her, since they confirmed it was an epileptic episode, and conducted a lot of tests to rule out possible causes.
HARDBAL voice actually does not help, having extra sound can worsen a seizure
EW DOGS ARE DUMB
Terrifying!
Poor baby girl :( so scary
Yeh so sad they become part of the family even diazepam calms them down when having seizure and potasium bromide
My yellow lab had cluster, gran mal seizures. He was put on phenabarbatol that completely stopped them. Terrible thing to watch trying to comfort them. Meds didn't slow him down one bit and he had a very active life. Sorry for the illness and hope the vet gets her meds going!
Need to connect paddings to the fence to prevent 🐎's own broken bones and death.
Situation: handled (very well)
the fall omg-
Why were the eyes covered?
Her feet are very overgrown.
Did you ever find the cause? My horse has started the same thing.
How to trying to help her
She goes to you wanting help, you wisely stay out of the way. Poor girl, must be awfully confusing for her not know what's going on 💕🐎
I hope the horse is ok and doing good
Sometimes parasites can cause brain injury or nervous system injuries, but seizures can happen to just about any animal.
Thank you for your input. :) She's dewormed on schedule, fed on schedule (even tried a diverse schedule - didn't work). We took away feed/supplements, slowly added, tried new supplements/feed, etc. Blood tests revealed nothing abnormal. Etc. Etc. Etc. We put her on probiotics and so far - no new episode AND her overall attitude is nicer. We're continuing to monitor her closely and hoping the probios help somehow. If that's the case then we'll scope her - good health begins in the gut.
Interesting! Curious what would cause the seizure from bad gut health. I have a German Shepherd he doesn’t have seizures but curious what I could give him for good guy health as they have sensitive tummies
*gut health I meant
my dog did that same way. we never found out why
Our horse has seizures that look a lot like this. He is under the care of Dr. Steve Reed at Rood and Riddle here in Lexington, KY where he had an MRI done. He was found to have an asymmetry in his brain anatomy which they have seen with other cases diagnosed as epilepsy. He is currently on Gabapentin with good results. Just a note that might be of interest, 10cc of IV Banamine and Dexamethasone (not sure dosage) immediately after these helps them pull out of the after affects much more quickly and has seemed to avert any peripheral episodes. The Gabapentin has allowed our horse to lead a very normal life now. He has been on it for about a year and is thriving. (I have one of his seizures posted on my channel for veterinary use...where it's actually been watched far too many times for apparently no reason since, but if you're interested to see the similarities with your horse, I think you'd be surprised.)
krissbloodstock I will check it out! I put this video up so UC Davis vets could view and to get feedback from others. This info is helpful - thank you!
I saw that video and my horse did the same thing and had a big gash in her leg that bled like crazy. She has since had another one-30 days later as far as we are aware of. I have her on a calmer with her feed right now just to help her. I have a vet coming out. This just started.
Just out of curiosity, is this horse retired now, or still working? My horse just had a seizure in turn out this past weekend and I'm looking for a shred of hope.
@@epinny9319 he's was pretty much reduced to being just a pet this summer after having a few issues, but the move to CBD oil looks like almost a miracle. Time will tell, but he might return to doing more next year. Very excited.
Thank you for this video. My horse has had 2 seizures so far that we are aware of..shes 16 yrs old and I don't believe she has had them before now. What are you doing to help her. Is it epilepsy?
This horse was around that age. Never had them when she was young and had them very few and far between so it was hard to pinpoint cause/causes, or even what was happening. This one episode in particular was the worst one she had had up to that point in time. She was kept in a large, sandy arena since she'd fall over during the seizures (I had moved her into the spare pens in order to exercise another horse when she had this seizure). After catching it on video, I was able to show the vets, who said she was epileptic. Owner considered medications, availability, dosages, side effects, etc. When she had two seizures in a week, one a bit worse than this one (took longer for her to come out of it), her owner decided to euthanize her.
Hope she's ok, my dog has these. It's so heartbreaking.
Why is her head covered! That’s seems awful!
It's a fly mask! It keeps a horse's eyes free from flies. The rest of the body can be wiped or sprayed with fly repellent but if any of that gets in eyes it stings. Fly masks are a good thing... She loved wearing hers and would put her face in it whenever it put on. Plus it probably helped protect her eyes from this fall/dirt.
Poor baby. Bless looked painful to me
Cinnamon Cloud star stable Official Thankfully, once it was all over and done with, she showed no signs of soreness (even in the following days) and was her normal piggish self (she loves her food).
That is so sad. Think like a horse, his mustang had a seizure he fell down and couldnt get back up, and he ended up dying, this kinda stuff is heart breaking. 😪
Is she HYPP Positive? So sorry for you and your mare😢😢😢
Bless her heart!!! I love these animals! I wonder if there’s some medication that causes this probably vaccines?
Vaccines do not cause seizures, problems in or on the brain do. Worms, infection, disease, injury, cancer. Not vaccines that prevent worms, disease, infections.
My python has seizures
Aww poor horse you can get medication from veterinary to controll her seizures it's scary to watch uncontrollable it is for her x
Aw, thanks, yes we looked into it and it was very pricey for a horse her size. We weighed the possibility, pros and cons, etc. At first we didn't know what was wrong (Chiropractic problem? Pinched nerve? etc). Someone then told us seizures - never thought thats what it was until I saw her do this. She started having these episodes after she colicked real bad, maybe it's related? Don't know for sure. She went seizure-free for 6 months but then she had a few that were worse than this one, over the span of a week. Since they increased and got worse, we laid her to rest. :(
I have a horse experiencing a similar episodes but without the tremors. I would be curious to know if you have had any progress in diagnosing a cause.
We never made much progress. She went seizure free for 6 months then had 8-10 over 2 weeks. The last episode was worse than the one on this video. It was obvious they were getting worse and increasing in frequency so we decided to put her down.
same here
@Karen Harrison No, they didn't. I don't think the owner could've handled that. =/
Aww, the poor thing. I hope she wasn’t hurt too bad :(
She wasn't hurt at all and fully recovered despite this one being the worst she'd ever had.
Can horses die from a seizure idk much ab horse sowwy :( btw I hope she’s ok!!!
Our horse started having this happen this weekend. How did you get her diagnosed with having seizures? What does she take? How long has she had them? Our vet drew blood to check for EPM. Waiting on results now. After several episodes this weekend, he would just walk it off. Came out of nowhere!
Hi my Arab has seizures too , im not sure if u ride her but dont it could be dangerous , i have retired my horse now , he had one today its will be his 3rd on but went for 12 months with out having one he just goes stiff and falls over front legs out stiff goes on the ground shakes then gets up all scared and worried calling out he comes right pretty fast but i decide it was to much of a risk to ride him anymore .In your video u can clearly see she knew something was coming , i hope she is ok these days .
I'm sorry your horse has them too. :( Yes, we had stopped riding her and limited who handled her after her first one. We tried changing foods, toxicology reports to see if she was being poisoned by something, etc. It was difficult since we felt it was unsafe to haul her anywhere so the vet always had to come out. We kept things routine, fed at the same time every day, tried keeping her in the same environment - I moved her to an old vacant pen to exercise another horse and she had this episode in the video so we stopped that. I think hers were more dramatic than others because she'd try to escape them. When she experienced a string of episodes the following spring, after going so long without them, we decided to put her down.
@@ZenithFlame So sorry to read that yup she looked like she knew she was going to have one , and the way she throw on to the ground changing ways was very dangerous for her , did they just start up from know where , was she normal before all that started Ziggy was , first one he had i had been to a show the next day i was lunging him and bang it happened , it was like he died on the spot rolled right over , the other 2 he head went up , yesterdays the same and legs straight and then straight on the ground all stiff , if he has them more and more he too will have to be put down as getting court in a fence wouldnt be good . thanks for the reply .
@@predatornz.5493 yes, they came out of nowhere! I was there when this horse was born. She was totally normal, trained, had a normal life until she was mid-teen. She was in the arena to run freely, started acting weird, and then spun around and went down, legs straight up in the air and shaking. She had them sporadically over the next few years, went a year in between episodes most of the time, even over a year. Then spring a couple years ago she had way too many within the span of a week and the owner made the decision to put her down. Weird thing was, she didn't fight the vet. She hated vets and always fought them before that, so we knew that she was ready to go... It's a terrible thing to have happen to any horse and I truly hope that your Ziggy doesn't get any worse and can have a happy, retired life with no more seizures.
I love NZ, btw, it's beautiful there. Only saw north island, so green. Was planning to see south island this Feb but I think everything will still be shutdown.
Someone had mentioned to us that Mae's seizures could've been cause by too many sugars in her diet and we started feeding her as if she was diabetic (low sugar feeds). Can't say if it helped or not, but it could have since she went so long between seizures.
@@ZenithFlame Ok i feed Ziggy low GI feed , Ziggy had a cancer tumor removed from his head 2 summers ago but his first seizure was 1 year before that , but the tumor was not right in his head , he went to massy to get it all removed it was a fast growing one the video is on my channel of the first removal of it but we had to go deeper to get the rest of it so he went to massy for that . . Lets hope in time the borders open up and COVID just goes up in smoke . Stay safe over there . :) .
I never seen any animal have a seizure before. Heartbreaking. But why was her eyes covered?
Her eyes weren't covered she had a fly mask on so flys will leave her eyes alone but the can see out of it
does she have cushings?
No she didn't have cushings.
@@bczephyr924 ok . was a idea as mine got it around 10 year old.
@@karenharris3183 yes! They can get cushings at almost any age. I knew a horse that was 4 and was diagnosed with it (who knows exactly what age it developed). Crazy huh? You had a good question and I appreciated it. :) Feedback from people makes me think. 👍 It's tool-building in case I'm ever in this situation with my own horses or someone else's.
I have had a horse with cushings and he lived until 28/29, no meds, just regulated feed and supplements, and exercised him.
@@bczephyr924 mine was 31 or so lived good long time . mine had cushings.
@@karenharris3183 I love when they live long. Gives us more time with them!
I’m so sorry you had to put her down... it’s so painful to experience a beloved animal in pain :(
Socially Awkward - Thank you.... The hardest part about it was, she was healthy and happy other than these episodes.
You just got knocked the fuck out man
That is really hard. Did you ever find out why she has them? Could it be controlled? Seizures are really hard to find the cause and in some cases medicate. How are things now? Just remember, this is one of the hardest things to keep a horse safe with and treat.
rhywnn -- We never found the root of the issue. She went seizure-free for 6 months then suddenly increased to 8-10 within a couple weeks earlier this spring. We made the decision to euthanize her because her last one was worse than this one in the video. Prior seizures have been more sedate than the one in the video. It was such a drastic change, from infrequent to very frequent, and the strength increase, that we felt it was best. She was normally a terrible patient for the vet, total brat, but when the day came to put her down, she was well behaved. We think she was ready to go and went peacefully.
ZenithFlame off all the animals I have had to put down, you can always tell they know it is tine. Non are the same but all make complete sense to that animal.
Thank you for sharing this. I am sure it can really help other with horses that have seizures.
ZenithFlame out of curiosity, did you ever feed your horse beet pulp?
@@ZenithFlame My horse just had a seizure in turnout this past weekend, and I'm trying to do all the research I can while waiting for the bloodwork results. Just curious, did they ever do any type of brain scan or imaging to rule out a tumor or other brain abnormalities? My boy is only 6, and I'm absolutely terrified of the prognosis and looking for hope that he can continue to be happy, healthy and in work. Sorry to hear about this horses passing.
@@epinny9319 What were the results of your horses bloodwork? My 7yr old just had a massive seizure tonight. It lasted about 12 minutes!
i’m dying 😂😂😂😂
The evilness in your heart is profound.
💔😢 may i know why you covered his/her eyes ?
Keeps flies off.
Is she okay my uncle has horse's and a pig and 2 goats and 5 ducks
She recovered just fine after this episode and others that followed. She was always closely monitored, within view from the house. Her episodes increased dramatically from rarely (once to twice a year which made it difficult to diagnose) to twice a week (which made her extra dangerous). We made the decision to humanely euthanize her. It appeared to me that she could never leave the soft sandy arena where she normally stayed. I had moved her to the unused pen to exercise another horse in the arena and then this episode happened. Not a day goes by that I don't miss her. My family and I owned her mom and raised this horse from birth.
I think its great that your uncle has horses and other animals. We have horses, dogs, cats, chickens, pigs, sheep, cattle, and one really old, cranky turkey who begs for table scraps. Animals are awesome! I love animals; domestic and wild. It's very important to take care of them the best we can!
I think you should call the vets straight away when you see what’s happening
I absolutely did afterwards but most important (since she had been seen prior for the same thing), I had to film this to have something to show them.
@@bczephyr924 ahh I see I feel bad for her :( hope she live because sometimes seizures can kill horses because I seen a video from one of my youtubers that I subbed to which is called Think like a horse and he has an old gelding called Mr T short for Tanner and one day (Think like a horse uploaded the video of him having a seizure so I don't know if I should say one day) Tanner had a seizure before the owner which is think like a horse could bring him into the trailer to the vets because Mr T was acting weird not normal before he had the seizure and while he was having a seizure the owner said he will have to shoot him (sad right?) and as he came back with the gun (he lives in America so and America doesn't ban guns in which they probably should so there's no more gun shooting in America) Tanner was already dead sadly :( so I hope she live in which I think she will!
Ride it
How old is he
Omg that was sooooo sad is she ok?!?!?!
She recovered just fine after this episode. She didn't have a scratch on her. But, the following spring her episodes increased in frequency and the decision was made to put her down.
Oh that’s sad that you will have to put her down...😭😭😭
It wasn't easy :( I watched her being born, played with her, cared for her. I miss her, and even miss the awful whinny she had.
My horse ate ryegrass and died yesterday, we noticed change in behavior and her being unusual so we called the vet, that day she had a seizure and died in the vet hospital...
I am so sorry for your loss. =(
Did the vet say it was mycotoxins/endophytes? How sad... We changed our horse's feed numerous times to rule out toxins. It can be so tricky... It took us a long time to adjust feeds, eliminate possible contaminants, to see if that worked. It seemed to help a little, but then she got worse (seizure frequency increased) so we put her down.
ZenithFlame What killed her was something she ate in her paddock, we have been using the same feed on different horses because of how good it is and how much it has helped them for over 3 years now. It is sad when something like this happens, it is hard to believe that ur horse will die until they actually end up passing away. Even though I knew she was dead I for some reason didn’t believe it for a day and a bit.
@@easyequine3827 Never pinpointed the exact cause. All her bloodwork came back as normal every time. It's a big question mark still which is why we took a while before jumping to euthanasia. Having an unknown cause of these episodes still bothers us. :(
I am so so sorry
Do you know why she has seziures? My horse has started having them now and my vet is talking to a specialist... I really dont want them to be chronic....
We never got a full answer except she might've "just been epileptic". Blood tests revealed nothing, no leads. They also weren't frequent which probably made it more difficult. We changed feed and supplements, eliminated things, etc and she still had them occasionally (maybe once or twice a year). When the episodes increased in frequency we decided to put her down. :( I hope the best for your horse. I'm curious, are your horse's episodes are this bad? I'm also curious what your vet and specialist say about them.
@@ZenithFlame I havent seen her do them, but shes had 2 days where shes had them, one was a few weeks ago and today she had to spread out episodes. I havent seen them myself... usually someone else is there and tells us (then we rush to the barn and shes fine... but we go to the barn twice a day). I have been there when one happened. I didnt want to see it, knowing there was nothing I could do. My heart dropped hearing her back into the walls and collapse. But it doesnt seem as major as this one, but she does circle around, running into things. Tonight her seizure consisted of her doing the weird thing with her lip and tilting her head. I can barely take this anymore. Shes a rescue (she was neglected) and its been problem after problem. We can manage but I want her to live the rest of her life problem free. We can afford treatment and such but we arent made out of money. I'm afraid its not looking too good. I dont want to have to put her down but unfortunately that might be what we would have to do...
@@ZenithFlame and I'll keep you updated on any results, the blood tests showed nothing.
@@ZenithFlame oh no. Im sorry to hear that.
How’s the horse now? I see you posted about her 2 years ago.
You are a good mom to the horse
Have you guys figure why she having them
Alli Kyunghee Turner --- We never figured out why. She went seizure-free for 6 months and then she had a sudden increase to 8-10 within a couple weeks. The last one she had was worse than the one in the video which was a far cry from her more sedate ones. We made the decision to euthanize her. We would've liked to have figured it out 100% but we didn't want to risk her hurting herself if she had an episode harder than her last one. She didn't hurt herself with the last one, she got up and walked away just fine, but we could tell her seizures were getting worse. The 'cluster' of seizures told us it was time.
is she ok? The horse is ok?
Melissa Coludrovich Yes! She came out of it just fine, not even a scratch, and went right back to eating after it finished. We still have her too and she hasn't had another seizure since.
Poor baby 😞 she’s like “Mom help me!”
Amber Pettit It's hard not being able to. We're still exploring treatment options and keeping a close eye on her. She's kept only in the arena or large round pen now.
Amanda B DONT SAY THAT YOU IDIOT THINK ABOUT OTHERS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT I TOLD You! YOU HAVE NO HEART FOR THE POOR HORSE DO YOU!
It hurts the animal if you try to physically help them during a seizure. And trying to help a 1,000 pound animal while it’s having a seizure? You’re sure to get crushed and killed by accident from the horse.
Pore thing doas he have eney sezure meds
Try a paded room
Why was the horse's eyes covered? Maybe that's why he was freaking out? Don't know much about horses.
Lilliz91 horses eyes are usually covered to protect them from flies and this horse wasn’t freaking out, she was having a seizure which is involuntary and is due to a medical issue and had nothing to do with the covered eyes
Обалдеть Спасибо ;)
Lilliz91 It is over the horses eyes to keep the flies away and it is not because of it since they see perfectly fine with it and it was a seizure.
Lilliz91 its a fly mask. The horse can see it protects their face from bugs.
Feed her some Burdock root
Poor thing that's not funny
No ones laughing
It might be rabies u need to check
It’s a fucking seizure
This is funny
Hopefully this horse has been put down
Why would you "hope" something as sad as that? It's like me hoping your dog got put down after it got hip dysplasia. It's messed up to hope for heartache and death. I love animals and would never say that to their owner or someone who cared for and about them.
If you read the comments, you would've learned that she was euthanized the following spring.
OMG HELP THE DAMN HORSE
Brigette H,R Ya, sure! Let me hold up 1,300 lbs and restrict her convulsions. That'll turn out well for all of us. 🙄 *applause*
Common sense lesson for the day: You do NOT go near a horse when it's having a seizure. Hope that'll help you live longer.
Unbelievable...
You are aware that after the video and AFTER the seizure, I fully examined her AND the vet was called. Not only is it common sense that you don't go near a horse that does this, but the vet also said STAY AWAY until she's finished.
THE PERSON CANT YOU DUMBASS
l bozo + 11 pound horse
put the horse down stop being cruel
If you read the comments... She was euthanized over a year ago. Cruelty would be killing her without trying to get a diagnosis. If your dog has bloody sneezing fits, you take it to the vet to try and HELP the dog. You don't just walk in and have the vet euthanize the dog because it sneezes so hard, blood gets everywhere in your house. If you do, you shouldn't own animals!!! If you love animals - YOU TRY to help them, figure out what's wrong and treat it. We tried, because we loved her, still do. We owed her that much and we do what we can for ALL our animals. As I hope everyone would. Her episodes were very infrequent. Due to the infrequent nature, it was difficult to diagnose. When her frequent episodes became more frequent, the decision was made to euthanize since they jumped to 8 episodes over 2 weeks and also became more violent than this one in the video. This video was the longest, most violent she had had out of all of them up until the clusters at the end.
Every animal deserves a chance when going through something difficult. Be kind.
Omg. You fucking dumbass. The person did -.-