New Version PS5 Dual Sense Controller Better Thumbsticks and Triggers
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Do you have the new version of the PS5 controller. What are the improvements and how to spot the difference. These controllers are being sold along side the original version which would get stick drift and broken adaptive triggers in as soon as 417 hours of use.
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2:58 Answer is here
The controller that came with my new PS5 Slim ends in “1B” so looks like this is a new generation controller.
I bought one with 1b at the end and it came with drift stick 😢
1b 1a 1c 1d 1f 😂😂😂Everyone gets drifted because Sony wants to sell you more controllers, otherwise it could have easily used the hall effect sensor. But it's not good for him.
Out of 7+ controllers I've bought, at least 3 of them had 'crunchy' sticks right out the box... like something was in it causing it to get 'stuck' and you'd need to force it past that point to get max angle... a slight 'clicking' in it? I'm trying to explain it best I can, but these ones died the quickest...
My ps5 controllers have lasted longer than my ps4 ones...although my ps3 ones are still original and havnt had 1 issue.
400 hours really. When every game nowadays is 50 plus. Can’t believe they thought they could get away with that
Ok very interesting. The main differences seem to be
They used the thumbsticks with the orange pots from another manufacturer (likely polyshine). I know from the ps4 that they used both Alps Alpine RKJXV1224005 (rated for 2 million cycles) and orange Polyshine FR10K (rated for 2 million cycles). They are specced for the same amount of use, and the orange polyshine thumbsticks are actually cheaper. Another notable change is the main board is a 4 layer pcb instead of a 6 layer, and the shell was redesigned to use less internal screws. This strongly suggests that the change was made for cost / assembly / availability of parts reasons and not because the "new controllers are better"
The triggers were slightly redesigned. I would need some more testing and data to confirm if this is actually an upgrade but it is conceivable. I have a BDM-020 controller kicking around that I could take pictures of the triggers the next time I take it apart - but the trigger modules are kind of a hassle to get to and disassemble. Not in a rush to do this lol.
I'd hold off on saying the new controllers are upgraded or better until actual proof comes through. The newer wiis removed the gamecube ports. The newer ps3's removed reverse compatibility. Point being newer does NOT mean better, so I would wait a bit before suggesting the newer version ps5 controllers are actually an improvement to the end user (and not just an improvement to sony's pocketbook)
It's good to hold back excitement and judgement but we should also remember that the series two PS4 controllers fixed a lot of the huge issues with the series one's. Main issue that was solved was the Trigger grommets wore exponentially slower, if not at all, in the series 2 controllers.
I’ve disassembled many of both versions and don’t see how the new versions triggers are any better, but they are built slightly differently, kinda seems to me another “money save” for them as the L2/R2 is hollowed out than before
@@ChummyBoy the triggers from the series 1 PS4 controllers would cut into the grommets over time and reduce the overall travel you could have. This was fixed almost immediately but launch controllers had this issue
I can actually verify what the others are saying. With the slim / pro ps4 controllers (JDM-040,050,055) the back of the trigger where the plastic meets the rubber button has a t shape instead of a line. This should mean more contract on the rubber itself, leading to less wear over time
Mind you any of the slim/pro version PS4 controllers will be at least 3 years newer than the old version controllers, so by the time the newer controllers hit the same age with the same amount of use I'd expect to see similar amounts of wear. I don't know if they made any significant changes to the rubber itself
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
I had pre-ordered the black controller before it came out last year and noticed it was built slightly different... the face buttons seemed a little recessed like they weren't as tall and had less travel distance so they were slightly more sensitive. I actually enjoyed using it a lot more than the white and red ones I have. It just recently started getting the beginning stages of stick drift about a month ago so since it wasn't a year yet it was under warranty and I sent it in to get fixed... I just received it back today and they actually sent me the new model controller (it feels noticeably different and has the A on the end of the model number). The buttons seem taller and "less sensitive" than they used to be, the d-pad feels more clicky and the adaptive triggers feel much better. Also, the black seems more like a two-tone dark grey and darker grey than black, which I actually really like. So maybe it was a blessing in disguise?
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
I bought the controller even though I dont have a console... works great on PC even with adaptive triggers if supported by the game
Did you know that with the launch of the New PS5 Colors and Controls a new version of the control was made (update B) the new code ends with B at the end (CFI-ZCT1WB) there were some internal changes to the control, one of them is about the spring of the kitten
that "new" version you're talking about came out last June. I know cuz I got one last July when they announced it. And they modified the board and the trigger assemblies back then, but did not "beef up" any springs for the triggers, nor did they change the parts for the stick drift. Just letting ya know, it doesn't matter if you are getting BDM-010 or BDM-020, they are no better than one another. They have yet to address the problems they have been in a class action suit about.
They are visibly a different thumb stick module, and several people have durability tested the versions side by side with minimal failure rate on the newer version. I know what you are referring to but this is a completely different revision/update.
I didn't see a difference while I was replacing the spring, I hope they actually did do something better is what I really am wishing for. I'm tired of replacing the springs, and thought the new model would be different, but one month after getting it, no trigger spring left on my L2... it always goes!
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I'd like to follow up on this, do you have a link to the tests? I know that Polyshine thumbsticks were used before on ps4 controllers, and there wasn't any major improvement or difference in longevity in my personal experience.
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
@@focus_gaming1438 They’re actually not new tech my friend, hall technology was actually Used way back on the Dreamcast controller, I have seen comments of some people saying their DC controller has still held up after 20 years now, which is exceptional and awesome.
Got my dualsense last year watching this video realizing i had the old one sent it in a week later got the new one back
Also to identify the new controllers is the press either trigger and if you see a spring on the inner side it is a new version controller.
I've had people say I'm stupid for changing out my controller for something as simple as color but while I think the 2 tone is pretty nice looking its not fun when I constistently get marks on it from sweat while with my series x controller this is never an issue, also after this video because it has updated and improved internals that will make it last longer
Cobalt blue and volcanic red end in "B" now.
Midnight black also, I want explanation
THIS, along with the fact that overpriced broken games are criminally constantly released (usually without refund), is why I try to wait as long as I can to invest my money, time and energy into these products, which I love when they’re fixed and work well. Makes for a much less disappointing experience.
Most people don’t have the same patience, which is partially why they continue to get away with this crap. Plus, we live in a wonky, corrupt banking and corporate led society that is constantly squeezing us, meting we all lose out, just like how every other industry operates that relies on profit. Things have got to drastically change at the core structure of this bizarre world that we have created for ourselves, before anything will really change.
The only people that should be buying these products straight from launch are the reviewers like your good self who can hopefully afford the unrealistic prices and total disappointment these games and consoles release with.
Cheers Kev. I appreciate your channel and the work you do, even if I am getting a bit bored of the same old memes 😂
I don’t wait for anything . I’m day 1 all day . If everyone thought like you we would have no good games at all . I appreciate the fact that some people have to be more budget connscious and like to take a wait and see approach and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that but In order for you to get that better deal or better product later you need a people like me buy day one. Those are the sales that green light future products. If everyone waited for things to go on sale before purchase or to be fixed as you say it would be a very different gaming world .
@@pmac206 if you can afford the disappointment then fair play. Each to their own. Sadly though things are never going to change overall if enough of the gaming community support broken games being released.
@@pmac206 If anyone thought like him they would have no money to make games 😂
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
My “x” button on the controller makes more noise, the other buttons are more “soft” but my x button is more clicky. Is this normal? (it's with my controller that you got out of the box)
I just got myself a custom PS5 Aim controller. I sent them a message asking that what version my controller is, hoping for the best :D
I reached out about the same inquiry a couple weeks ago and didn't get a response. I hope you get one and if you do let me know, as it's all that's holding me back from ordering one.
@@rufflesish I got answer from them, I made my order in february and they said that it’s the A model (better one)
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
0:14 yoooooo why is nobody talking about this?
So I have 2 Controllers, they’re separate in ID so I have a 1 and A but what I’ve noticed is that the one ending with the 1 which would be the old one has a vibration if I tap it on my palm while the one with the A is dead stiff when I tap it on my palm.
However there’s something curious going on, the one with the 1 which would be the original one has a darker blue indicator light when logging on. The one with the A has more of a light blue when logging in and even the charging orange light is different than too.
In conclusion my 1 controller has better light strip tone than the A one. The A one has the light strips looking dull. Why is that? Also the vibration the controllers have when off. Any and all help would be appreciated.
I have had my ps5 since last summer and can still use 5% dead zone
How many hours on the controller though?
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
I am on the new Carbon Black Edition ending with an A and the left stick started driftig after a little over a year after purchase. For 70€ this is still disgusting.
Love the comedy. Thanks for making thus video entertaining
For the same price point they never change anything that really matters to benefit the consumer for performance, Longevity, or both.
2:34 bro💀💀
Mine's the original spec. Just got myself a starlight blue. Dpad down got ash in it and in the left analogue, too. 🔥🔥🔥
Ur hilarious I subscribed just cause u got good attitude
Are you going to do a review on the aim v2 ps5 controller? Just ordered one and have yet to see an in depth review anywhere
The OG controller have stiffer R2/L2 triggers, the new one is much looser? Anyone noticed? I picked up a new controller and I noticed how loose the L2/R2 trigger is.
I bought a GOW Ragnarok PS5 bundle recently. Man the controller feels more cheaply made than the old one with my original PS5. Plastic weight and triggers feel like cheap molds
2:50 ignore me lol
Great video how can I tell if I have the bdm 020 or 030?
I want to extremerize it 😊.
My PS5 slim I have two controllers and it's FCC ID AK8CFIZCT1B IS THAT THE UPDATE CANT SONE INE TELL PLEASE?
@Gamer Heaven how do I buy a bdm-30 I have all the kits to install on it and burned my pcb board and cant find one anywhere please help me out
I have right thumb stick drift so constantly looking down. Going to check if my other 1 is like that too. But anyone have experience with the new galaxy controllers. Like are they worth buying being more durable then the Gen 1?
So hex gaming controller is good & new no stick drift / broken paddles?
Great vid. Just got the A revision since my launch pad got some drift and spring broke. I replaced the spring but nothing you can do about drift
Noticed that my purple is lighter than the white that came with the console
So with the new version how long would it take to get stick drift bc I just picked up an updated controller from the old one having stick drift
Probably about the same mount of time. The issue is with the fact that the pots wear out, which both the old and new sticks are suceptable to. Best advice is keep the controller (and your hands) super clean - the cleaner the controller is, the longer it will last.
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
My ps5 came with the updated version controller.
Just received my scuf FPS controller today and this video ruined my day 😭 how's your scuf controller holding up?
It’s still working great. It should be fine man, even the older dual sense was hit and miss, for example I have never experienced stick drift or trigger failure even on my original controller that came with the console a year ago
I've had my scuf for a month of daily use, no problems yet. You won't have to worry about the spring failing on it if you got the FPS model, just hope the trigger switches last. Hopefully on their FPS model, they still use omron switches. I modded my white scuf reflex with omron short triggers. Nice controller! How do you like the triggers on it?
@@ControllerSupported thank you both, very reassuring haha! The triggers are incredible and so is the grip! Real game changer. How did you find doing that mod? Was it easy or should I not bother doing it to my other controllers?
yow my ps5 controller is the japenesse version so the back is kinda different i cant seem to see the cfi number? does anyone have a japanesse one if so how will you know if youre controller is the new one or not.
@@tinoyleonor637 is it not an official one?
I just emailed aim hopefully they are using the new version
I thought v2 had to have a 2 after the letters?
I have the new controller but it's has stick drift maybe I'm a extreme gamer😢
I had original one that didn’t even break but Sony did 25 pounds off all controllers got galactic blue it seems much lighter then my white controller I noticed it straight out of the box I’m trying to figure it out few people online have mentioned but no website officially mention that new colours are lighter is it the lighter plastic or motors etc
That’s odd, the first two I bought I ended up having to send back due to spring breaking. They are now coded with “A” indicating they sent newer ones? Well, I bought two black controllers because I’m an idiot and spent $160 to have all black, yet only ONE of the two have the “A” meaning the one black one is older model? Assumed the newer colored ones are all revised but guess not.
Bro them galaxy colors are so whack💀 i just completely destroyed my p5 controller trying to take it apart to clean it cuz i had INSANE stick drifts. Gonna be buying a new controller here soon at gamestop and imma use ur advice and check the back for that letter A at the end
Purple one is actually nice in person. Has a light metallic finish under the light. It’s Better than the pink blue and “red” for sure
What about Id “cfi zct1w” is this 2nd version? Or 1st ?
This also apply for the Edge?
I'm using cfi-zct1j....is it the newer version?
i have the A version; is it bdm 10 or 20 or 30 version ?
i wanna know too
I bought a scuff since they do maintenance on their controllers
I bought my PS5 from Walmart but the controller doesn’t have any FCC number. The model is CFI-ZCT1J and it has drift issue. Is it a new version or old? The Sony website don’t show this model at all. Very confusing.
Just see the manufactureing month and year on the box , make sure it from 2022
Look up hall effect joysticks - this is the design-tech solution that has been gaining attention and should be offered more and more as part of or as replaceable option going forward
Same issue.😐
Lol the new potentiometer is the same as the bdm1 from looks. Both orange.
My controller is without id number is it the new version
I just bought a PS5 and extra controller from Wal-Mart. The one that came with the console has much smoother feeling thumbsticks. The model numbers are the same, but the logos on the bottom are different. Where do I buy one that would ship with a console vs one in a box because I promise you it IS different
I don’t think you can get them without buying a new console. I bought a second white controller around when the console first came out from Walmart and it felt so much worse
@@proggz39 I know exactly what you mean. Over time mine now feel more or less the same. I don't know if the bad one broke in and got better or if the good one broke in and got worse, but it's not noticeable anymore. When I first got it I could close my eyes and pick the better controller by feel
My controller ends with 1B can someone explain if this is new or old
New
The black and white ps5 controller and I believe the red one as well originally released with 1 at the end of the model number. While the other colors originally released as 1A and then the white, black and red ones were eventually updated with the current hardware which is 1A. The only reason I knew this is because I had the black dualsense when it originally came out and it was just a 1 at the end but then later on when I bought another black one I noticed it had a hardware update become it had 1A like the rest of the current new models.
The OG controller have stiffer R2/L2 triggers, the new one is much looser? Anyone noticed? I picked up a new controller and I noticed how loose the L2/R2 trigger is. Did you notice this? My OG have stick drift but the R2/L2 is working while my new controller broke much faster, it has stick drift and R2/L2 issues...
@@roblox21242 yes I notice it and the reason is because the coils used in the triggers/bumpers are bigger meaning they Aren’t as tight.
@@roblox21242 because the new controllers have bigger coils then the original ones. Smaller coils = tighter bumpers/ triggers while it’s the opposite for Bigger coils.
@@j.swwervo4586 is this a good thing? because this is my third controller, the second controller that i got was very loose too and it had major R2/L2 issues and it would randomly trigger other skills when i play ff14. while i dont have this issue with my og controller, my og controller have stick drift issues only, but my second controller have stick drift, R2/L2 issues and would randomly trigger other actions in game. I saw this happening with the brand new controller that i got this weekend during the target sale. it looks like its already defective :(
@@roblox21242 well usually it’s suppose to be better since the adaptive trigger features don’t become defective with the bigger springs/coils but for the trigger/bumpers overall it could be a issue which wasn’t evaluated by Sony.
My buttons r sticking and that has never happened to any controller I've ever owned. Wtf Sony. 2 months after I get it also.
hey man, since you are a Destiny fan, which controller you would say suits it best? for ps5.
You speak too much . Just show damn controller
My ps5 is bought on 28 april 2022 and my serial numbers ends with A so do i get the newest one?
what if my controller FCC ID ends with 1 B
its the latest version
Hey AK40Kevin, I have a white and black controller with originally CID#, and 1 black controller with the new number, I know you basically said its a long shot, but where would we g to contact sony about potentially replacing these original CID controllers? Thanks in advance for your time, I absolutely love love LOVE your videos and the way you do them! Hilarious!
Hey buddy, If you go onto the PlayStation US site, and search warranty they should have an automated system you can make a claim. I luckily haven't needed to make any hardware claims with Sony. Glad you like the videos man, I will keep them coming.
Who makes the best ps5 controller ? Hell you got all of them. Lemme know bro.
For me the buttons on black controller is worst
Sir it’s called “Mid Night Black” 🤦🏾♂️
Yay for A
1a 1??
1A I'm good
that's not exactly true my Black controllers both have 1 at the end meaning it should have the smaller weak L2 and R2 spring Only it Dosn't they both have the New bigger and stronger spring i know since i bought the new springs to replace them when i opened them and measured the springs they were the same Only mine white controller that i got with the console with 1 had the old weak springs and from what i can tell theres different Tumbsticks in the old and new Revision of dualsense some have blue potentiometers some have yellow and others are Green theres an Alps chart showing what controllers have what analog thumbsticks why controllers with 1 would have the new spring and sticks cause Sony is Not about to throw all the shells they made that have the old FCC ID very simple really
Well shit i have the old one 😠😠
Take forever to get to the point....
if it has a smaller but also capital "B"
CFI-ZCT1W B
and on the smaller many letters says:
CONTAL PY: 2023-05-I-0322 IC: 409B-CFIZCT1B F43900EL714127170 MADE IN CHINA
IFT S2SOCF23-19666 ANATEL: 08316-20--06223
FCC ID: AK8CFIZCT1B
?what version is it?
I’m wondering the same.
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