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  • This footage from 1945, shows a compilation of shots of British and German officers in the last year of World War II including famous British officer Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery.
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    (FILM ID:2155.11)
    Location Unknown / Unclear - Germany.
    German officer talking to British officer on side of road, troops relaxing and army vehicles and tanks are seen in background. Several shots of a group of officers talking on side of road. One is reading a document. Close up shot of a document - one page printed letter.
    Several shots of German officer and escort driving off in a jeep. Group of German officers sits in a car. They hold white flag high in the air.
    Various shots of large group of German and British officer in front of a house. Officers entering house.
    German driver refuelling a car from petrol can. Several shots of British soldiers chatting on and around a tank, the house in background. German officers leaving the house. British interpreter explains them where to go.
    Several shots of German officers lined up in front of Monty's caravan. Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery leaves the caravan to talk to imprisoned officers. Various shots of Monty talking to officers through interpreter. Group of officers looking on. He finishes and leaves, officers walk off to a car. More shots of the officers' encounter with Monty. General Alfred Jodl is in a group of captured German officers.
    Several shots of a group of British and German officers leaving a tent and getting into cars.
    Note: This is probably footage of preparations of German surrender terms.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 169

  • @jinnymudlark1815
    @jinnymudlark1815 7 років тому +94

    Thank you for publishing these historical videos. Australia.

  • @fnln544
    @fnln544 5 років тому +181

    British Pathe, Thank you for sharing your vast archive with the world by the Internet. We get to experience many unique historical shorts.

  • @robinold8633
    @robinold8633 Рік тому +22

    Note the respect they have for each other and the relieve that the war is over

    • @tomortale2333
      @tomortale2333 Рік тому

      buuullshit the german officers dont want to end up in russian hands...they;ve just fooled the brit officers FOOLS

    • @amosrusie3936
      @amosrusie3936 Рік тому +2

      Never should have shown any respect.

    • @makeSX
      @makeSX Рік тому +2

      @@amosrusie3936 soldiers are normal men, war criminals and politicians are not

  • @user-ir3oq4el9t
    @user-ir3oq4el9t Рік тому +4

    Спасибо за информацию.

  • @alanpearson7554
    @alanpearson7554 Рік тому +10

    I believe the tall officer in the British warm at 00:45 is Major General Barber GOC 15th Scottish

  • @madmikemadmike2175
    @madmikemadmike2175 2 роки тому +3

    there is audio of this somewhere on youtube

  • @billstarr7224
    @billstarr7224 11 місяців тому

    It would be great if there was some info on what was happening and who was participating. Any sub titles would help.

  • @user-tb6uj9hz6k
    @user-tb6uj9hz6k Рік тому +3

    Sadly...can't see ....Romel meet Monty !

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks 2 роки тому +25

    no individual soldier personally hated the other. I believe these gentlemen would like to stop at the bar for a drink.

    • @Matthew-hb9ff
      @Matthew-hb9ff 2 роки тому +5

      People forget many USA soldiers and Southern Whites had the same ideology as the Nazi.

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 Рік тому +5

      @@Matthew-hb9ff Not really lol

    • @davidfans5852
      @davidfans5852 Рік тому +2

      @@Matthew-hb9ff wtf

    • @paulritchie5868
      @paulritchie5868 Рік тому

      Not the SS..those bastards deserved to be shot on sight.

    • @bepolite6961
      @bepolite6961 Рік тому +3

      My late friend was a Para. He hated them with a passion! especially the SS. He did until the day he died.

  • @mattg8431
    @mattg8431 Рік тому +5

    The British were just too nice, I bet if it was the other way around and Germans were the winners there wouldn't be any chit chatting

    • @Dryhten1801
      @Dryhten1801 Рік тому +3

      They would be. Look how the Germans treated the occupied channel islands (very well.) The Germans would've been amiable until they started getting massacred in their thousands by Partisan forces.

  • @johnbrereton5229
    @johnbrereton5229 Рік тому +4

    An excellent historical record of Field Marshal Sir Bernard Montgomery accepting the Nazi unconditional surrender at Lünberg Heath, nr Hamburg Germany on the 4th May 1945. Finally, after 6 long bloody years of warfare, at last it was over !
    Shame there is no audio though.

    • @anthonyfuqua6988
      @anthonyfuqua6988 Рік тому +1

      Alfred Jodl signed the Official Surrender of all German Armies, Navy, and Luftwaffe on May 8, 1945. May 9 in Russia. Thats why VE Day in Western Europe is different than in Russia.

    • @johnbrereton5229
      @johnbrereton5229 Рік тому +1

      @@anthonyfuqua6988
      Karl Donitz was appointed the Reichs head of state by Hitler before he died. It was Dontiz who authorised the unconditional surrender demanded by Montgomery at Lündberg Heath on 4th May, sending Generaladmiral Von Freidberg to sign the surrender documents. Von Freidberg then travelled to Eisenhower's headquarters at Reims in France but claimed he had no authority to surrender to the Soviets.
      Von Freidberg then asked Donitz to authorise someone else and that's when Alfried Jodl was sent and signed it before midnight on the 8th May and it came into effect on the 9th May. The reason the Soviets end of WW2 is different, is because the Soviet General Alexie Antonov thought this previous staged surrender in Reims seemed like seperate peace deal. So he therefore wanted another official surrender on the 9th May in Berlin. After the war Karl Donitz was tried at Nuremberg and after being found guilty imprisoned a Spandau prison and was released in 1956.
      General Von Freidberg on the other hand was imprisoned by the British and committed suicide on the 23rd May 1945.

    • @anthonyfuqua6988
      @anthonyfuqua6988 Рік тому

      @@johnbrereton5229 I'm aware of all that but as I watched the Russian Victory parade this year, they said the surrender was signed at 11 something P.M. in Germany but it was after midnight in Moscow. They wanted a General to surrender to them but the Russians and Europeans agreed to recognize the May 8th signing as the official surrender.

  • @wackadakka3134
    @wackadakka3134 Рік тому +2

    Admiral von Friedeberg at 3:12 . he committed suicide shortly after

  • @RAJKUMAR-ui8wo
    @RAJKUMAR-ui8wo Рік тому +11

    THIS IS A VIDEO WORTH PRESERVATION FOR POSERITY. ONCE THE WAR IS OVER, THEN THERE DOES NOT EXIST ANY ELEMENT OF PERSONAL ILL-WILL AMONG EACH. DURING THE PERIOD OF WAR, ONE SOLDIER INSTANTLY SHOOTS THE OTHER OUT OF PROFESSIONAL COMPULSION.THIS IS THE MAIN INGREDIENT OF ALL THE WARS .THIS VIDEO SHOWS BOTH BRITISH SOLDIERS/OFFICERS BEHAVING WITH ONE ANOTHER IN AN EXCEPTIINALLY COURTEOUS , AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER. NO PERSONAL RANCOUR OR GRUDGE WITH ONE AND ANOTHER. BEING PROFESSIONAL OFFICERS , THEY ARE UNDER AN OFFICIAL OBLIGATION TO PERFORM THE SPECIFIED DUTIES . THE FULL CREDIT GOES TO THE BRITISH OFFICERS TO FULLY ADHERE TO THE CONCEPT OF EQUALLITY AND TREATING THE ADVERSARY WITH AN ELEMENT OF HONOUR. PERHAPS, DURING THE RELEVENT TIME THERE WAS NO INSTRUMENT AVAILABE WHICH COULD HAVE RECORDED THE PROFESSIONAL CONVERSATION AMONGEST THE BRITISH AND GERMAN OFFICERS. STRANGELY AND CO-INCIDENTLY ALL THE SOLDIERS ARE WEARING LONGCOATS.PERSONAL WORD OF GRATITUDE GOES IN FAVOUR OF THIS CHANNEL WHICH IS DISHING OUT MARVELLOUS AND AUTHENTICALLY WELL RECORDED MOMENTS OF SECOND WORLD WAR. THANKS VERY MUCH.

  • @charlesjames1442
    @charlesjames1442 2 роки тому +3

    Heavy coats in May. A cold Spring that year.

    • @Chilly_Billy
      @Chilly_Billy Рік тому

      Definitely a bad month for the Germans.

    • @stephenkammerling9479
      @stephenkammerling9479 Рік тому

      Cold Spring sounds like Midwest spring in US, especially Chicago and Great Lakes area.

  • @stewartwebb5699
    @stewartwebb5699 Рік тому +4

    Original. No commentary. They need a lip reader tp give some idea in what is being said..Just a thought

    • @olafhenke4614
      @olafhenke4614 Рік тому

      Yes it would be great to know, what's going on there. It doesn't look like a real post war scene, but definitely not as a situation while the war. I think it's some negotiations how to go on in the unclear situation in the North if Germany where the Reich continues for some weeks after the capitulation.

  • @vernonsaayman9741
    @vernonsaayman9741 Рік тому +5

    gen patton then remarked,,we have been fighting the wrong enemy,,

  • @Finglesham
    @Finglesham Рік тому +9

    Excellent. That must be Luneberg Heath. The Germans were so smart their uniforms contrast with Monty's battledress. But he was the winner so could afford to smile a little. Proper salutes, none of this Nazi stuff by then I see.

    • @TheSeoras
      @TheSeoras Рік тому +4

      Yes all except their driver ,who no doubt it never crossed his mind 💁‍♂️

    • @theyangview1898
      @theyangview1898 Рік тому

      Fuggers killed millions of women children and non-combatants
      I would have cap’d their nazty arses

    • @ivortheboneless9306
      @ivortheboneless9306 Рік тому +1

      You mean the very old European nations salute? History lesson required for you, sunshine.

    • @anthonyfuqua6988
      @anthonyfuqua6988 Рік тому +1

      The Wermacht had to be forced to do the Hitler salute after the failed assassination attempt of July 20, 1945. They didnt want to do it in the 1st place.

    • @robsan52
      @robsan52 Рік тому

      Yeah, at the beginning a German officers gives a salute and the NAZI salute to other Germans then quickly looks around..."hope no one saw that!" lol

  • @eddiehooper9741
    @eddiehooper9741 Рік тому +2

    Imagine what the world would be like today if peace was made in 1939 British empire had 70 percent of the world’s oil and didn’t realize it they would really be a superpower and still have the empire 🤷‍♂️

  • @capoxspring3323
    @capoxspring3323 Рік тому

    Check out the mirroring going off here

  • @ivortheboneless9306
    @ivortheboneless9306 Рік тому +2

    No more brother wars.

  • @sledgehammer9739
    @sledgehammer9739 Рік тому

    Be nice if we had a narrative or subtle.

  • @paulfoy4252
    @paulfoy4252 Рік тому +1

    Ich erkenne diese Leute nicht mehr.

  • @filiphlupic1582
    @filiphlupic1582 Рік тому

    I wonder why don’t they use normal effects instead of black and white on their smartphones

  • @crafter170
    @crafter170 Рік тому +2

    Looks like a big Scotsman at the start ....Asking where is the nearest pub no doubt.....

  • @Jeffybonbon
    @Jeffybonbon 2 місяці тому

    Monty was not impressed he knew what they stood for ??

  • @michaelmajor4450
    @michaelmajor4450 Рік тому +13

    I wonder if the British officers were surrendering to the German's they would have been shown the same respect i don't think so

    • @chengkop4113
      @chengkop4113 Рік тому +3

      British were more civilized mentally than german

    • @Dryhten1801
      @Dryhten1801 Рік тому +8

      Eh, probably would have been to be honest. The Germans treated British soldiers well.

    • @hartmutwrith3134
      @hartmutwrith3134 Рік тому

      77 years ago and you still belive in propaganda. Very sad. I presume you have never been in our country, had never longer conversations with German aborigines like me, etc.

    • @coling3957
      @coling3957 Рік тому +3

      @@Dryhten1801 except the at least 2 occasion in 1940 when rear guard British troops were captured and executed by SS troops.. about 200 in total. and that was when the Germans were winning!

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 Рік тому +1

      @@Dryhten1801 your knowledge of history is lacking my friend

  • @CarlosAlfredoGutierrezSerey

    Operación Impensable in the making

  • @paulritchie5868
    @paulritchie5868 Рік тому +18

    At that point ..as Patton said,we should rearm the German army ,turn it east and put the Russians out of Europe and back into their wilderness…🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💂‍♀️

    • @blueburp7766
      @blueburp7766 Рік тому

      And he was right ; not the russians but communism

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 Рік тому

      Then watched all our troops die as the Russians pushed us back to the channel!

    • @tomortale2333
      @tomortale2333 Рік тому

      NOOO WE NEEDED THE RUSSIANS...SEE HOW THEY TOOK BERLIN AWAY FROM HITLER.../THEY LOST 30 MIL SOLDIERS...GB RUSSIA

    • @blueburp7766
      @blueburp7766 Рік тому +2

      @@tomortale2333 Of course , but why did they lose so many people ? Who destroyed the red army before the german invasion ?

    • @davidcollins1323
      @davidcollins1323 Рік тому +1

      Payton was so right about this , the British and American forces with what was left of the Wehrmacht as a fighting force would have been formidable against the Russians

  • @richardl772
    @richardl772 Рік тому +4

    This looks like the surrender at Lüneburg Heath…..

  • @marchenne1004
    @marchenne1004 Рік тому

    Je constate que certains officiers allemands salut avec le salut hitlériens……… même battus …… incroyable mais je ne sais pas si Hitler était déjà mort ………

  • @stubi1103
    @stubi1103 Рік тому +10

    The world we all live in today is the result of the Allied victory and the defeat of the German people in 1945.
    Everyone may make up their own mind about what I mean by that...

    • @eddiehooper9741
      @eddiehooper9741 Рік тому

      Seems like a simple thing to make peace re arm sit back and let the Germans eventually invade Russia and let them both bleed each other dry seems like common sense really

    • @46FreddieMercury91
      @46FreddieMercury91 Рік тому +1

      And the result of WW1

    • @stubi1103
      @stubi1103 Рік тому

      @@46FreddieMercury91 I absolut agree, both wars were turnings points in our history !

    • @stevewoodward7850
      @stevewoodward7850 Рік тому

      Not the German people but the German Nazis....

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg Рік тому

      Read about how the American élite through their top men running W. Germany saw to it that their counterparts who'd set up and funded (and profited from) the Nazi regime and its slave labour machine got off scot-free and kept their assets, while the British found themselves bankrupted and dictated to by their U.S. ally under the terms of a long-term bailout loan: the post-war trials and hangings amounted to a token setting of accounts (many of the seriously-guilty [of murders] were soon out of prison after their life-sentences were abbreviated in the early '50s.

  • @giancarlofilacchione7371
    @giancarlofilacchione7371 Рік тому +2

    Addirittura da Montgomery!
    Simpatico, l'inglese con gli occhiali.

  • @user-xw9if1nu8q
    @user-xw9if1nu8q 15 днів тому

    The respect was mis-placed - these generals are being treated like royalty by bowing and scraping British officers.

  • @lewwer9707
    @lewwer9707 Рік тому +2

    Proszę jakie obrazki wszyscy zachowują się jak starzy dobrzy przyjaciele zamiast tych hitlerowców powinni z miejsca rozstrzelać

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 Рік тому +1

      The Commonwealth tried to fight an honourable war, not random murdering of prisoners

    • @Hauke69
      @Hauke69 Рік тому +1

      Yes, we know Poles and Czech can be pretty cruel and killing indifferently in revenge.

    • @theoraclerules5056
      @theoraclerules5056 Рік тому

      @@Hauke69 They (Czechs, Poles, Slovaks etc.) had many more entirely justifiable grounds to hold grudges, resentment & reasons to avenge themselves against the Germans. They had lost countless millions of their butchered fellow-compatriots & the Nazis had already invaded & occupied their respective countries by then for the previous five or six years!

    • @sandraobrien8705
      @sandraobrien8705 Рік тому +1

      The antipathy would have been present to somee degree natirally, they are just showing manners.

    • @Hauke69
      @Hauke69 Рік тому

      @@theoraclerules5056 countless millions?

  • @kennethlange6157
    @kennethlange6157 Рік тому +1

    But the war have not ease the hatred for one another.I met a Briton and when I introduced my name card to him,he told me off!!! I don't like & deal with Germans & he tore up my name card.Very rude gesture.

    • @woodenseagull1899
      @woodenseagull1899 Рік тому

      Just put it down to " English humour "! After all, just accept you are the vanquished. ...You sure that's not a made-up story by the way?

    • @stephenkammerling9479
      @stephenkammerling9479 Рік тому

      There's always those who believe in "blood guilt," holding future generations guilty for what happened in the past.

    • @FlangipanSausage
      @FlangipanSausage Рік тому

      I can tell you for certain there's a lot of admiration for Germany in the UK, no one person defines an entire nations perception of another. Respect from GB. 🙂

  • @andyniblock43
    @andyniblock43 Рік тому +2

    Apart from Hitler, we have a lot in common with our German friends

  • @mariopadillo4886
    @mariopadillo4886 Рік тому

    German were very Snappy !

  • @shirleybalinski4535
    @shirleybalinski4535 2 роки тому +1

    Did these German officers ever get their hands dirty?

    • @ahmadmorsy1561
      @ahmadmorsy1561 Рік тому +3

      Could say the same about the British tbh

    • @triplehernan5155
      @triplehernan5155 Рік тому +4

      136 German generals died in WW2.

    • @Dryhten1801
      @Dryhten1801 Рік тому +4

      @@ahmadmorsy1561 Well, I didn't know about the second, but in the first world war you were more likely to die as an officer than a soldier.

  • @giancarlogarlaschi4388
    @giancarlogarlaschi4388 Рік тому

    Most of Germans were Educated People and spoke English.

    • @woodenseagull1899
      @woodenseagull1899 Рік тому +2

      Yet, committed the most Heinous crimes, humanity has ever experienced.....There must have been something wrong with the German education system, at time.....!!!!

    • @46FreddieMercury91
      @46FreddieMercury91 Рік тому

      Britain and Germany were practically cousins until WW1.

  • @andyoncam1
    @andyoncam1 4 роки тому +64

    At 1:45 a (junior?) officer gives a Nazi salute. Perhaps old habits died hard in that man but I hope the habit was stamped on very quickly, and that German officers were told in no uncertain terms that such displays were not acceptable.

    • @ScorchedEarth-cd5cl
      @ScorchedEarth-cd5cl 2 роки тому +2

      be quiet fool

    • @shirleybalinski4535
      @shirleybalinski4535 2 роки тому +1

      Old habits die hard!!

    • @Wotsitorlabart
      @Wotsitorlabart Рік тому +8

      @@shirleybalinski4535
      I think he is actually pointing to the rear of the car - the other officer at the back on the right collects what looks like a file.

    • @pseudonym745
      @pseudonym745 Рік тому +2

      Definitely pointing at sth.

    • @petermortimer6303
      @petermortimer6303 Рік тому +1

      @@Wotsitorlabart He might be but the officer walking into the picture from the left at 1:21 and 1:24 definitely gives the fascist salute

  • @johnwilliamknox7156
    @johnwilliamknox7156 Рік тому +10

    I wonder how many of these english would of fought the Germans if they knew how Not so great britain would end up!!!!!

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 Рік тому +3

      If you're referring to Britain's structural decline, that can be traced back to the 1890s, when Germany and the USA became industrial powers and began investing in futuristic industries while Britain continued to depend on the textile industry. World War Two just showed that the British Empire was a paper tiger as Britain was unable to defend it, as shown very amply by the Ceylon raid and the retreat of the Royal navy from the pacific.

  • @Ah01
    @Ah01 Рік тому +8

    Montgomery was a dilettante for an officer. Never won anything without a desicive anvantage in material and troops. Any granny from a market square would have accomplished the same, with similar odds given.

    • @keithmoore5224
      @keithmoore5224 Рік тому +7

      that’s how you win with better training more material fire power and planning jussi raty put your brain in gear just saying

    • @Ah01
      @Ah01 Рік тому +5

      @@keithmoore5224 yes, if a general happens to be on the side with infinitely better resources. But the world history is still filled with examples of military genius beating the odds.
      (No need for personal insults, so won't give you ones, have a nice day, if possible.)

    • @coling3957
      @coling3957 Рік тому +14

      extremely naive. Monty was a personally courageous soldier who'd been severely wounded in ww1 and lain in No Man's Land all day until his men could rescue him after dark ( by his own orders not to risk themselves in the light ) .. he knew how to train and prepare troops and to use their advantages. the Allied troops were not fanatics like the Axis or eager to throw their lives away for a madman. he knew that in 6 years UK could not afford to take the losses the newly arrived Americans could afford, or the sort of butcher's bill the Soviet commanders expected... there is no point winning a war if all your troops are dead

    • @Ah01
      @Ah01 Рік тому +2

      @@coling3957 Not questioning his personal courage, his leadership on the other hand was stuff like Op Market Garden....
      (And, understand the need to have british tales of heroism, though the americans and russians made all the difference, not UK or France. )

    • @Ah01
      @Ah01 Рік тому +1

      @@alasdairmmorrison74 You're right in that, but the cold war proved which two were the real superpowers. And, dritte reich would have been a real handfull for UK without US providing the industrial capacity and USSR the manpower. Germans still outproduced the brits clearly in 1944, but that made no difference because US outproduces all. In 42, the gap was even greater.

  • @pogmothoin1342
    @pogmothoin1342 Рік тому +1

    Sure they were chummy, the English were referred to as Gentlemen Nazis after all.

    • @freebornjohn2687
      @freebornjohn2687 Рік тому +5

      WTF are you talking about??

    • @pogmothoin1342
      @pogmothoin1342 Рік тому

      @@freebornjohn2687 Let me rephrase, the upper crust English the aristocracy were deeply aligned with the Nazis a lot of this was through bloodlines,the likes of Sir Arnold Wilson MP Lord Mkount Temple, Sir John Simon, yes and even Winston Churchill wrote laudatory remarks about Hitler ther are so many Lords, Ladies, Dukes and Earles and last but not least the former king Edward Vlll. simply said the down to earth bloke was not, still that saying was used whether people like it or not. Yours a Freeborn man of the traveling people

    • @glynnwright1699
      @glynnwright1699 Рік тому +3

      @@freebornjohn2687 Irish at a guess. At the same time these events were taking place the Irish government was scuttling to the German embassy to sign the condolence book marking Hitler's suicide.

    • @wackadakka3134
      @wackadakka3134 Рік тому

      potato eater

    • @freebornjohn2687
      @freebornjohn2687 Рік тому

      @@glynnwright1699 Ireland's neutrality didn't help it their relationships with the US and Europe after the war.

  • @frixux
    @frixux 3 місяці тому

    Many dead to be friends at the end ,,,