Great video! Retired here.. been using the least expensive Fram oil filter (extra guard now) since high school. Change oil every 3000k and never had a problem. Currently have 357k on my 2002 5.3 Silverado.
😂 so you’ve been doing the BARE MINIMUM required and your engine is still functioning. Wow. 🤦🏻♂️ Does that really mean anything? Your engine could be burning oil and is really dirty inside from the el cheapo filters yet still work just fine.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about No, never the bare minimum Artem... always what's required. Truck does not burn oil.. just been well taken care of, with a great platform to start with. My point being.. never had an issue with Fram oil filters, on regular changes, over the past 50 years. Own many vehicles.. and oil changes/schedules are top priority for me. Your new and not so familiar with all of this I'm thinking??? Best luck!
Great job.. doing an oil change that frequently.. hope it lasts a lot longer. I think it is hard to compare oil filters without having duplicate vehicles with different oil change intervals or filters to really compare
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Do you know what I’m what you’re talking about? Doing an oil change every 1800 miles is way more than the minimum, it’s less than half of what the recommended interval is. That oil was probably coming out pretty clean at that mileage.
It is like when your crazy drunk uncle starts during thanksgiving dinner to say that he changes his oil at maximum 3000 miles because of anything more isn't what god intended when he made Adam and Eve.
Honestly, I change my oil filter with every oil change. I use the 20k filter and oil, but never go over 5k miles between changes. Some may call it a waste of money. However, it's relatively cheap, especially for maintenance care.
Greetings from Germany, I fully agree with you. Changing the engine oil and filter every 5k miles (8k kilomters for us in Europe), is the best you can do to protect an engine and ensure viscosity/lubricarion. Furthermore, if your driving mainly around town, it might be prudent to change the engine oil & filter every 3k miles (a bit less than 5k kilometers). With kind regards, TH
@ryanfelton7385 - it is cheap enough to throw away after only 5k miles of use but you COULD drain it during an OC and run it another 5k because technically, the filter is still perfectly good to go and you’ve only used up 20% of it. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm a fan of the Endurance. Based on the specs and appearance, it seems to be the same as the Amsoil filter with a different paint job and label for 30-40% less money..
Definitely has been proven that it is a match to the Amsoil EAO/EA15K series filters made by Champion labs. Walmart stocks all the Fram Endurance models. That is the only place that carries them so far from my searches. I bought the standard size and the larger filter that fits my Ford. FE3600 and our Jeep GC V6 25k cartridge filter for $12.97 each. My Amsoil preferred account is $17.40, so it really is a wash. Just depends on what oil you want to run. Amsoil has three worthy, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Valvoline Advanced, Valvoline Extended Performance, and Extended Performance High Mileage has all the high additive wear packages and high TBN. I do Blackstone labs oil analysis on my oils when I change them, but I do not do extended oil changes. 5000-7500 maximum regardless what kind of lettuce they are smoking.
@@emed1977 after further inspection, I see the Amsoil filter media is not the same as the fram endurance. The fram endurance is a synthetic and cellulose blend. The Amsoil filter media is exclusively synthetic, so it has higher flow.
Recently changed over to synthetic oil and filter after 20 years of running cellulose fram in my Cummins. My oil pressure is way better at all rpm’s. Thought about getting the amsoil filter but saw endurance and amsoil taken apart in a video. Chose the best bang for the buck.
Good video. Just so you know, the words "Product of USA" does not mean that it was "Made in the USA"! Thanks, Jimmy, for all that you do to keep us informed!
The Amsoil EAO, Purolator Boss, and Royal Purple Extended Life all also feature the same white, micro-glass synthetic media. These are all their top level oil filters with the same [extended] service mileage.
this is a common misconception. Doing this or not doing this will make zero difference. maybe in old cars or extreme conditions this might make a difference.
people nowadays are the only reason their vehicle has any problems and they tend to blame either the vehicle, the brand of part, or the rust belt. Nevermind that they are the dumbass that thought cutting wires under the hood was a good idea or pressure washing the motor or using fram filters, or turbo/ supercharged engines that the engine wasn't designed to deal with the increased compression or just flat out stupidity when it comes to regular maintenance schedules
@@alanmerritt860 With modern filters that's still practical. Go 3k miles, change just the oil and keep filter installed. Go another 3k miles, change both oil and new filter. Repeat. You'll still only be at 6k for oil filter changes, which is below almost every auto manufacturer service interval these days.
They dont change oil, they change 3 engines in 10 years😂, i have customers like that: every time i put another engine in their car they Say: "this time i wouldnt forget the oil change" then they disappear to come at my garage 2 years later with the engine knocking 😂
Having a filter that will hold up and have good flow after 15, 20, or 25 thousand miles would be a really good idea, but I would still go with changing the oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles. I would not be changing my filter every time. Maybe every 2nd or 3rd oil change. "Why?" you may ask. As the filter starts to get dirty it will filter out smaller and smaller particles. As some of the holes get partially plugged it creates some smaller holes that will be able to trap even smaller pieces. This will actually work kind of like a bypass filtration system. You just need to make sure that you have a filter that won't break down, plus will keep a good flow rate even after it is partially plugged.
I asked the same question: Can I just keep the same oil filter if it is rated for 15k miles and just change the oil since I change the oil every 5k. Oil filter company answer is: change the filter at the same time you change the oil.
@@Simple_UA-cam If a person does that, then that just means more sales for that company. If it's good for 15K then there would be no reason to do that, well except to give the oil company more sales.
I don't think Fram is saying that with this filtrer you can change the oil in 25k miles intervals. I believe Fram is offer an longer interval for your filtre, not your oil.
😂 right? The point here is the OIL FILTER. Change the oil, but keep the filter going for a second or third oil change before finally replacing it. If the filter can offer you 25,000 miles of FILTRATION, why dump it after only 5k miles of use??? 🤦🏻♂️ You’re throwing away a perfectly good oil filter that still has over 80% life left in it.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about I would change the filter anyway because it contains a good amount of dirty oil. I guess you could remove it and dump most of it out but if you're going to that much trouble you might as well stick a fresh one on there.
why on earth do they rate oil filters by how long you can go between oil changes people who change their own oil are not going to go past 7500 miles i would guess otherwise they would just let dealer do oil changes. I want to know how good is filter at removing particles not rating on mileage.
I use the Fram line of filters, and I too change my oil every 3-5,000 miles. Just a note: if you noticed, when you started your engine, it took about 5 seconds to get oil pressure. Thats not good. When changing your oil filter you should fill the filter with oil before you put it on. That way you will get pressure almost immediately. No dry starts. Just a tip from an old timer.
I've never pre filled an oil filter in my life. Didn't even know it was a thing untill I started watching videos on UA-cam. Beside you can't prefill one if it goes on upside down like my 63 dodge dart.
@@alanmerritt860 You can 'prime' a dry filter before starting the engine. Hold down full throttle and try cranking the engine over for 5-10 seconds. This will circulate oil without actually starting the car. Once you learn this trick you never even need to bother prefilling a filter.
I will never use another fram filter. I stopped using fram garbage years ago when I found out just how cheap and poor quality they were made. A little while ago the parts store was out of the normal filter I use for my 2000 jeep Cherokee so I used a Fram ultra guard. Having seen good reviews on them I figured I was safe just this one time. In less than 3,000 miles it started leaking from the seal. I checked and it was tight, but not too tight. So I did an oil change and the seal on the filter had actually gone concave. Lesson learned....don't even use a fram in a pinch. Go find an actual quality filter.
I am curious what brand that is ( yes I realize this is an older video ) as I have never ran a fram filter on anything myself, mostly fleetguard, a few baldwin, John Deere, Cat, some Purolator, Donaldson ( air filters ) Of course JD and Cat don't make their filters but get them made to their specs. I just think fram did themselves a disservice by building such cheap filters as their standard filter as all demo filter displays at farm dealerships or elsewhere have a fram filter to show what an extreme low end filter looks like inside.
Holding out for the 50k version. J/K. I really wish manufacturers of oils and filters stopped these 15k, 20k, etc, labeled products. It's really giving consumers the wrong idea, considering not one single automaker recommends those intervals on their engines.
I work at Walmart in the Auto Care Center and Fram is Walmart's corporate contracted oil filter. We use the COR line which is intended for commercial sales such as an Auto Care Center. They are similar to the Orange box Fram Extra Guard, just without the fancy stencils the Extra Guard has. However, when I have my own vehicles oil changed, I run the Ultra Synthetic filters. I have a 99 Chevy Silverado I bought in 2011, and have run Mobil 1 Synthetic in it for almost that whole time, no engine related issues with that truck. It's solid. I also have a 2006 Dodge Grand Caravan, running the same oil/filter setup in it too. I just bought a 2005 Grand Caravan with a lot of miles and a couple of engine issues. The engine is solid but is throwing a P0016 code, camshaft or crankshaft position sensors not corresponding. I have both sensors but haven't replaced them yet, they are a bit of a chore to accomplish but doable. The previous owner used it as his daily driver, running it about 100 miles round trip every day, and I'm not sure what his service interval was, so I'm going to do a couple short intervals using Marvel Mystery Oil the last few hundred miles to help clean it out. I'm suspecting the variable valve system might be gummed up too, so hopefully this will help clean that up and start it running better. (That can also possibly cause the P0016 engine code). After that I'm going to run the Mobil 1/Ultra Synthetic oil setup I'm using in the other vehicles. Everyone just remember that Fram was the original aftermarket oil filter manufacturer and have been in business for about 100 years now. In this amount of time, they should know what they are doing, so personally, I'm 100% confident in running Fram products. My family has been farming for decades where we ran Fram filters on tractors, trucks, combines and a whole host of self propelled farming equipment, and we have rarely ever had an engine failure, and those that happened were not from a bad Fram filter. My Grandpa even ran the local Gambles Hardware Store and carried Fram filters, and he never had anyone come back with a bad one. So that's a pretty solid track record. Nothing wrong with running a Fram.
Any luck with the Marvel Mystery Oil on your Grand Caravan Danny? My father swears by that stuff. Thinking about giving it a try on my old F150 4.6. 👍🏽
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Still driving it with the MMO but will be changing it in a couple weeks. I suspect it needs a new timing chain and another short duration oil change.
That Fram endurance is a top notch filter, I could tell the second I opened the box, it looks like it's made by Amsoil but less expensive, I'll be going back to Wal-Mart and buy a couple more for my Subie XT. Oh, GM is always going to suggest you buy their AC Delco garbage, they own AC Delco.
These filters are Amsoil clones made by the same manufacturer for walmart. Other youtubers have cut them open and can confirm they are the same. So they are excellent filters for the money.
Great video only criticism I have is you should use the same filter across the lineup. Part numbers may differ but I think it will give a better comparison
@1RoadGarage at one point, they were using deceptive marketing and making sub-par filters. If you're interested, look into some filter testing done a few years ago, and you will see why I come to not trust them as a company. Thanks for the awesome videos. I hope you have a great day.
Because fram has a history of causing engine failures and being a dishonest company using very shady marketing practices and their products are trash compared to the competition. They used to say they were the best filters even when oil was dissolving the paper and glue they were using for the filters and having like 1/5th the filter surface area of even the cheapest brands on the shelf
Jimmy, I always enjoy your videos and I like the way you analyze everything you do! It is a personal preference for different people it’s be my experience on my vehicles like my 1993 Z71 I run wix or AC Delco I’ve done a lot of research and to me “and this is just my opinion “ on any of my vehicles the only oil filters I’ll trust are WIX, K&N, AC delco or Amzoil. But Never Fran again just my opinion for what it’s worth keep your videos coming I love them!👍🏼
FRAM and CHAMP labs are now owned by the same parent company. I think the name is First Products. They have messing around with their product mix over the last few years. The Cartage filter for my 13 Camry, is actually a CHAMP filter but its in a FRAM box. So you dont know whos filter your really getting these days! Purolator filters are made by Mann and Hummel, IMO they are probably better then the FRAM and Champ filters
Instead of using the Ac Delco PF46 filter, try the PF61 filter on your truck. It's longer and has more filter media and costs the same as the 46. I showed this to my friend who has a Surburban and now the 61 is all he uses. Easier to screw on and off too.
Good stuff Jimmy! I agree 100 percent with you about never going 25k miles before changing the oil. Then again, I drive a 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban with a 7.4 (454) and it's all metal... So, 3500 miles is my personal limit. Thanks for sharing. Funny, manufactures usually don't want things to last but I'm sure the bean counters still manage a profit somehow. Can't wait to see what's next.
Through oil analysis, I find my 454TBI can go 7500 miles on Mobil 1 high mileage 10W-30. The parameter that goes out of spec is total dissolved solids. I ignore the timeline and end up changing every 2 years, combined with a Mobil 1 oil filter or K & N. At 173,000 miles now. Since I don't have roller lifters, I add some ZDDP to boost the conc even though the high mile formula has some.
Nobody is saying 25k for the oil change. It's saying how long the filter outlasts the oil. The additives in the oil are what breaks down. Oil should always be changed from 3k-5k.
That "goopy glue" is what stops the oil from passing thru the gaps in the filter. I kno it should be obvious but the filter media goes in out, in out all the way around. This is the first filter in a cartridge style that is actually sealed at both ends forcing all of the oil to be filtered. I do wonder if this is the fram titanium rebranded for walmart, I'll figure that out next oil change
Imo, the OG Ultra XG, the best filter of the bunch. Two ply full synthetic wire backed. Unfortunately, First Brands decided to cheapen the media to a thin synthetic layer backed by blended media for support. Price stayed the same. Endurance a good filter, but some applications downsized and ~$4 more than OG Ultra.
I think I'll throw my money at the Amsoil filters that cost at least double the Fram filters, but they also go far beyond the industry standards of other filter companies, including Wix.
This is literally the Amsoil filter which is made by Champion labs. Feel free to search here on UA-cam and watch as they cut them open and are literally identical. I am not saying don't use Amsoil oil or filters because it only saves you $5 bucks as a preferred member, but facts are facts. The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum has nearly toppled the Signature series now. But Fram Endurance is Amsoil EAO/EA15K filters.
@@leahlesley1035 Amsoil may only cost $5 more. But there is also the convenience factor of being able to pick up the Synthetic Endurance at your local Walmart vs having to order online and wait to have it shipped to you.
I’ll stick with Wix. The whole auto system is designed to kill your motor earlier with these fillers and parts of “convenience ” . I’ll stick with Wix every 3,000 miles. It’s all about the micron percentage.
The synthetic new filter threads are the bottom warp so easy making it slip when trying to remove it. I end up having to puncture a hole with screw driver to remove it. I wished they coated the thread with those black stuff.
I have been an AC Delco man when it comes to oil filters I switch to Fram and now I'm using wix if you want to cut up oil filters and show the inside of all of them Dr 3 or 4 different brands it might shock you it did me and this is in my 2000 GMC Yukon XL with 368,000 Mi on it❤
What I’m interested in is if using the Fe filter would your oil pressure increase since it says “high-flow” because back then when they use to sell the K&N filters my oil pressure was higher that’s the only reason I used them but I’m still pissed they cost $12.97 like really😒 I get it it’s a royal purple filter at Frams cost but why did they have to get rid of the K&Ns
@@ChicagoRob2 yeah there not well made there just thrown together to make as many as they can because there supplied at all Walmarts and most auto stores
Cool. I've used the Kirkland full synthetic for the last 20 oil changes (5w-30, 5k mile OCI, OEM filter). My 2006 Matrix has over 213,000k and runs perfect. It's just as good as Mobil 1 IMO. I'm still kicking myself for not buying 5 boxes of the stuff when they were going for $21 (it's now like $37).
With the current car market and Biden-economy, people are running their cars longer and need better maintenance products per buck. Even Amsoil formulated a brand new, high mileage oil for car owners today.
IMHO, Fram can't be trusted for quality. Mobil 1, AMSOIL, K&N, or in emergency AC Delco for me. I really like the 1" hex nut welded on the K&N. However they are for max flow like racing and don't filter as fine of particles. Robust engines like 350 and 454 old school should be fine with them. LS and modern, I don't know how finicky they are.
Yes, words of wisdom. Based on analysis, Blackstone Labs tells me not to go more than 7500 miles per change, and that’s with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W20 and the excellent Denso-manufactured Mazda OEM filter. I go 5000 miles, to keep my oil change combo in the sweet zone.
@@1RoadGarage thanks for your reply on this matter young man 👍😎😁 I've been told that when you get a new one to oil The gasket so it's not going to be a problem with it at the next oil filter change
I'm more interested in the combination of flow and filtration efficiency than capacity. The filter can have a capacity of 35 grams, but if it's restrictive, or letting 25-micron particles through, I'm not going to be a fan.
@@sjoeld57or you could follow the instructions or proper installation instead of just mindlessly doing whatever goes on in that hormone driven brain of yours 😂
I go for K&N oil filter. Had them for every 5k miles on my lifted xB. And they are great. Can’t go wrong. Also made in USA. And they are robust. The body of the oil filter is stronger. Try squeezing it
@@1RoadGarage oh they definitely do. For the price of the K&N oil filter. They are worth it. Also, I know u probably seen my other comment about led lights upgrade. They were one of my favorite from u to review about it. What got my attention is that, u have favored front and rear turn signals. Along with ur brake lights. Why not for the sylvania zevo front and rear turn signals, with a mechanical led flasher relay and zevo brake light bulbs? I think it would be fascinating and interesting to see that ur vehicle Chevy suburban. Would make it look more premium and more fresher look than ever. It just missin its ingredients
@@Peter_Riis_DK the oil filter? Because I’ve been using the same K&N oil filter, and with Castrol edge synthetic oil. This is my 14-15 oil change with K&N oil filter. And I had no issues with them whatsoever. Change them every 5k miles.
Some of their older stuff had issues, but the newer Fram Ultra Syn filters are great. People who've done actual side-by-side teardowns really like them.
I kinda love these oil change “debates”. I’m somewhere around 20,000 miles since my last oil change in my ‘00 Suburban. I do check it fairly regularly, and it still isn’t too dark. It’s still got quite a “honey” look to it, and not far off maximum. I have been doing the same with my S10 Blazers. 30,000 miles and I thought it was definitely time to change it. It was a little darker than new oil, but definitely not what I would call bad. I think it could have done another 5,000, but no more really. All three vehicles use the same 5w30 fully synthetic from a national chain here in the UK. While it’s probably best practice to change at 3-5k, it’s practically unheard of in the circles I frequent. When people have asked how often I’m supposed to change the oil, they’re shocked at how short it is. Most people I know drive cars where service intervals are recommended at between 20 and 40 thousand miles. I’ve seen only once some oil that looked like sludge or treacle on the inside of an engine, and that was on a Ford where it literally hadn’t been changed in 100,500 miles. The service book backed this up. It had gone in for its first service at 500 miles, and never returned.
Great video! Retired here.. been using the least expensive Fram oil filter (extra guard now) since high school. Change oil every 3000k and never had a problem. Currently have 357k on my 2002 5.3 Silverado.
😂 so you’ve been doing the BARE MINIMUM required and your engine is still functioning. Wow. 🤦🏻♂️
Does that really mean anything? Your engine could be burning oil and is really dirty inside from the el cheapo filters yet still work just fine.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about No, never the bare minimum Artem... always what's required. Truck does not burn oil.. just been well taken care of, with a great platform to start with. My point being.. never had an issue with Fram oil filters, on regular changes, over the past 50 years. Own many vehicles.. and oil changes/schedules are top priority for me. Your new and not so familiar with all of this I'm thinking??? Best luck!
Great job.. doing an oil change that frequently.. hope it lasts a lot longer. I think it is hard to compare oil filters without having duplicate vehicles with different oil change intervals or filters to really compare
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Do you know what I’m what you’re talking about? Doing an oil change every 1800 miles is way more than the minimum, it’s less than half of what the recommended interval is. That oil was probably coming out pretty clean at that mileage.
That works for the application. There are filters that are light years better but, if you’re only going 3000 miles then it will work.
Three things to never discuss in polite company: Religion, Politics, Oil Filters and Oil. 😂
lifeless you are
How dare you bring up oil filters!
It is like when your crazy drunk uncle starts during thanksgiving dinner to say that he changes his oil at maximum 3000 miles because of anything more isn't what god intended when he made Adam and Eve.
Crash safety offered by older vehicles, that's a BS hiding to nowhere. (Old cars obviously aren't safe)
I talk about them all the time. Especially oil filters ! 😊
Honestly, I change my oil filter with every oil change. I use the 20k filter and oil, but never go over 5k miles between changes. Some may call it a waste of money. However, it's relatively cheap, especially for maintenance care.
Greetings from Germany,
I fully agree with you.
Changing the engine oil and filter every 5k miles (8k kilomters for us in Europe), is the best you can do to protect an engine and ensure viscosity/lubricarion.
Furthermore, if your driving mainly around town, it might be prudent to change the engine oil & filter every 3k miles (a bit less than 5k kilometers).
With kind regards,
TH
@ryanfelton7385 - it is cheap enough to throw away after only 5k miles of use but you COULD drain it during an OC and run it another 5k because technically, the filter is still perfectly good to go and you’ve only used up 20% of it. 🤷🏻♂️
As the saying goes, oil is cheap, engines are not!
It's a shame there's so many people buying into the extended interval BS
@@jankington216 I am a firm believer in, don't trust anyone trying to sell you something ;)
I'm a fan of the Endurance. Based on the specs and appearance, it seems to be the same as the Amsoil filter with a different paint job and label for 30-40% less money..
Definitely has been proven that it is a match to the Amsoil EAO/EA15K series filters made by Champion labs. Walmart stocks all the Fram Endurance models. That is the only place that carries them so far from my searches. I bought the standard size and the larger filter that fits my Ford. FE3600 and our Jeep GC V6 25k cartridge filter for $12.97 each. My Amsoil preferred account is $17.40, so it really is a wash. Just depends on what oil you want to run. Amsoil has three worthy, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Valvoline Advanced, Valvoline Extended Performance, and Extended Performance High Mileage has all the high additive wear packages and high TBN. I do Blackstone labs oil analysis on my oils when I change them, but I do not do extended oil changes. 5000-7500 maximum regardless what kind of lettuce they are smoking.
There have been some videos where they opened them up, and they were exactly the same.
@@emed1977 after further inspection, I see the Amsoil filter media is not the same as the fram endurance. The fram endurance is a synthetic and cellulose blend. The Amsoil filter media is exclusively synthetic, so it has higher flow.
The boys have a new toy to play with good goody now let's get on with the show
Recently changed over to synthetic oil and filter after 20 years of running cellulose fram in my Cummins. My oil pressure is way better at all rpm’s. Thought about getting the amsoil filter but saw endurance and amsoil taken apart in a video. Chose the best bang for the buck.
350,000 miles on my 2005 chevy 6.0 Vortec using Fram Ultra and SuperTech 5w30 Full Synth every 7.5k miles - why fix what ain't broke ....
It was the bypass valve that was chincy on frams. Still looks the same causing it to not filter
The high end Frams can't be beat. Best efficiency/micron ratings by far. Ultra or Endurance are new best filters.
Good video. Just so you know, the words "Product of USA" does not mean that it was "Made in the USA"! Thanks, Jimmy, for all that you do to keep us informed!
The endurance is VERY good filter ! The wire backed media indicates this filter can last a long time
This new Fram filter is $10.00 cheaper than the Amsoil and is made with the same exact components.
Yea… because it’s FRAM and Walmart. They do whatever they want. 🤷🏻♂️
I typically buy an Amsoil EA15K13 for $10.35 each, or about $2.65 LESS than the Synthetic Endurance.
The Amsoil EAO, Purolator Boss, and Royal Purple Extended Life all also feature the same white, micro-glass synthetic media. These are all their top level oil filters with the same [extended] service mileage.
Top tip. When your oil filter is oriented as shown, fill it with oil before installing. Gets the oil pressure up faster.
Good call.
You can also add a good slug of oil in the ones mounted sideways to help filling. New oil on the gasket and wipe old oil off the mounting flange.
@@latrogeniwile58
Not quite a "good slug", or you'll spill most.
this is a common misconception. Doing this or not doing this will make zero difference. maybe in old cars or extreme conditions this might make a difference.
@@icarris1
Why? You need to explain your claim as it contradicts common sense.
Anyone who reuses oil filters after an oil change needs to educate themselves. Or start Savin money for their next vehicle.
people nowadays are the only reason their vehicle has any problems and they tend to blame either the vehicle, the brand of part, or the rust belt. Nevermind that they are the dumbass that thought cutting wires under the hood was a good idea or pressure washing the motor or using fram filters, or turbo/ supercharged engines that the engine wasn't designed to deal with the increased compression or just flat out stupidity when it comes to regular maintenance schedules
Years ago that's what was recommended. Oil filter every other oil change.
@@alanmerritt860 With modern filters that's still practical. Go 3k miles, change just the oil and keep filter installed. Go another 3k miles, change both oil and new filter. Repeat. You'll still only be at 6k for oil filter changes, which is below almost every auto manufacturer service interval these days.
They dont change oil, they change 3 engines in 10 years😂, i have customers like that: every time i put another engine in their car they Say: "this time i wouldnt forget the oil change" then they disappear to come at my garage 2 years later with the engine knocking 😂
@@gillespriod5509 lolol
Fram ultra synthetic are great filters.
You can use canola oil and a napkin just change it on time.Fram #1 oil filters of all time.100 years gong strong 💪.
Having a filter that will hold up and have good flow after 15, 20, or 25 thousand miles would be a really good idea, but I would still go with changing the oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles. I would not be changing my filter every time. Maybe every 2nd or 3rd oil change. "Why?" you may ask. As the filter starts to get dirty it will filter out smaller and smaller particles. As some of the holes get partially plugged it creates some smaller holes that will be able to trap even smaller pieces. This will actually work kind of like a bypass filtration system. You just need to make sure that you have a filter that won't break down, plus will keep a good flow rate even after it is partially plugged.
You really know your stuff keep up the good work
I asked the same question: Can I just keep the same oil filter if it is rated for 15k miles and just change the oil since I change the oil every 5k. Oil filter company answer is: change the filter at the same time you change the oil.
@@Simple_UA-cam If a person does that, then that just means more sales for that company. If it's good for 15K then there would be no reason to do that, well except to give the oil company more sales.
I don't think Fram is saying that with this filtrer you can change the oil in 25k miles intervals. I believe Fram is offer an longer interval for your filtre, not your oil.
😂 right? The point here is the OIL FILTER.
Change the oil, but keep the filter going for a second or third oil change before finally replacing it.
If the filter can offer you 25,000 miles of FILTRATION, why dump it after only 5k miles of use??? 🤦🏻♂️
You’re throwing away a perfectly good oil filter that still has over 80% life left in it.
Isn't the oil what lasts longer than filters?
@I_know_what_im_talking_about I would change the filter anyway because it contains a good amount of dirty oil. I guess you could remove it and dump most of it out but if you're going to that much trouble you might as well stick a fresh one on there.
Just use the EXCELLENT Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. Cant beat it. I run 2 oil changes thru it w/excellent results. 💯
Atleast what Fram is saying on the box is actually correct on what's in the filter
why on earth do they rate oil filters by how long you can go between oil changes people who change their own oil are not going to go past 7500 miles i would guess otherwise they would just let dealer do oil changes. I want to know how good is filter at removing particles not rating on mileage.
I use the Fram line of filters, and I too change my oil every 3-5,000 miles. Just a note: if you noticed, when you started your engine, it took about 5 seconds to get oil pressure. Thats not good. When changing your oil filter you should fill the filter with oil before you put it on. That way you will get pressure almost immediately. No dry starts. Just a tip from an old timer.
I've never pre filled an oil filter in my life. Didn't even know it was a thing untill I started watching videos on UA-cam. Beside you can't prefill one if it goes on upside down like my 63 dodge dart.
We need to suggest a test of oil filters to mr. Project Farm.
Project farm is a fantastic channel!
@@alanmerritt860 You can 'prime' a dry filter before starting the engine. Hold down full throttle and try cranking the engine over for 5-10 seconds. This will circulate oil without actually starting the car. Once you learn this trick you never even need to bother prefilling a filter.
@@cup_and_cone it's not something I'm really concerned about.
I will never use another fram filter. I stopped using fram garbage years ago when I found out just how cheap and poor quality they were made. A little while ago the parts store was out of the normal filter I use for my 2000 jeep Cherokee so I used a Fram ultra guard. Having seen good reviews on them I figured I was safe just this one time. In less than 3,000 miles it started leaking from the seal. I checked and it was tight, but not too tight. So I did an oil change and the seal on the filter had actually gone concave. Lesson learned....don't even use a fram in a pinch. Go find an actual quality filter.
"Ultra guard" doesn't exist, bud.
@@xXJLNINJAXx well excuUuuUse me for having it wrong. Ultra synthetic, the gold piece of crap "BUD"
The lower end Frams are quantum levels inferior to the Endurance in construction and performance. This one is of the highest quality.
everything looks chintzy to me. compared to another brand i like
I am curious what brand that is ( yes I realize this is an older video ) as I have never ran a fram filter on anything myself, mostly fleetguard, a few baldwin, John Deere, Cat, some Purolator, Donaldson ( air filters ) Of course JD and Cat don't make their filters but get them made to their specs. I just think fram did themselves a disservice by building such cheap filters as their standard filter as all demo filter displays at farm dealerships or elsewhere have a fram filter to show what an extreme low end filter looks like inside.
Holding out for the 50k version. J/K.
I really wish manufacturers of oils and filters stopped these 15k, 20k, etc, labeled products. It's really giving consumers the wrong idea, considering not one single automaker recommends those intervals on their engines.
I would never wait that long. I wonder what they could use as a marketing term/phrase instead??
I'm pretty sure some European cars with oil life monitors can go 20,000 or more miles between oil changes.
I work at Walmart in the Auto Care Center and Fram is Walmart's corporate contracted oil filter. We use the COR line which is intended for commercial sales such as an Auto Care Center. They are similar to the Orange box Fram Extra Guard, just without the fancy stencils the Extra Guard has. However, when I have my own vehicles oil changed, I run the Ultra Synthetic filters. I have a 99 Chevy Silverado I bought in 2011, and have run Mobil 1 Synthetic in it for almost that whole time, no engine related issues with that truck. It's solid.
I also have a 2006 Dodge Grand Caravan, running the same oil/filter setup in it too. I just bought a 2005 Grand Caravan with a lot of miles and a couple of engine issues. The engine is solid but is throwing a P0016 code, camshaft or crankshaft position sensors not corresponding. I have both sensors but haven't replaced them yet, they are a bit of a chore to accomplish but doable. The previous owner used it as his daily driver, running it about 100 miles round trip every day, and I'm not sure what his service interval was, so I'm going to do a couple short intervals using Marvel Mystery Oil the last few hundred miles to help clean it out. I'm suspecting the variable valve system might be gummed up too, so hopefully this will help clean that up and start it running better. (That can also possibly cause the P0016 engine code). After that I'm going to run the Mobil 1/Ultra Synthetic oil setup I'm using in the other vehicles.
Everyone just remember that Fram was the original aftermarket oil filter manufacturer and have been in business for about 100 years now. In this amount of time, they should know what they are doing, so personally, I'm 100% confident in running Fram products. My family has been farming for decades where we ran Fram filters on tractors, trucks, combines and a whole host of self propelled farming equipment, and we have rarely ever had an engine failure, and those that happened were not from a bad Fram filter. My Grandpa even ran the local Gambles Hardware Store and carried Fram filters, and he never had anyone come back with a bad one. So that's a pretty solid track record. Nothing wrong with running a Fram.
Any luck with the Marvel Mystery Oil on your Grand Caravan Danny? My father swears by that stuff. Thinking about giving it a try on my old F150 4.6.
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@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Still driving it with the MMO but will be changing it in a couple weeks. I suspect it needs a new timing chain and another short duration oil change.
That Fram endurance is a top notch filter, I could tell the second I opened the box, it looks like it's made by Amsoil but less expensive, I'll be going back to Wal-Mart and buy a couple more for my Subie XT. Oh, GM is always going to suggest you buy their AC Delco garbage, they own AC Delco.
These filters are Amsoil clones made by the same manufacturer for walmart. Other youtubers have cut them open and can confirm they are the same. So they are excellent filters for the money.
New filter has way to much glue on the filter material
I'm fine with ACDelco. They've never given me an issue.
Great video only criticism I have is you should use the same filter across the lineup. Part numbers may differ but I think it will give a better comparison
Fram lost my trust years ago.
What happened?
@1RoadGarage at one point, they were using deceptive marketing and making sub-par filters. If you're interested, look into some filter testing done a few years ago, and you will see why I come to not trust them as a company. Thanks for the awesome videos. I hope you have a great day.
Who in their right mind is going to use one filter over 25,000 miles.....
I always use Wix on my 63 Dart, and my 17 Trax.
Most auto channels use Wix including racers.
Because fram has a history of causing engine failures and being a dishonest company using very shady marketing practices and their products are trash compared to the competition. They used to say they were the best filters even when oil was dissolving the paper and glue they were using for the filters and having like 1/5th the filter surface area of even the cheapest brands on the shelf
Jimmy, I always enjoy your videos and I like the way you analyze everything you do! It is a personal preference for different people it’s be my experience on my vehicles like my 1993 Z71 I run wix or AC Delco I’ve done a lot of research and to me “and this is just my opinion “ on any of my vehicles the only oil filters I’ll trust are WIX, K&N, AC delco or Amzoil. But Never Fran again just my opinion for what it’s worth keep your videos coming I love them!👍🏼
FRAM and CHAMP labs are now owned by the same parent company. I think the name is First Products. They have messing around with their product mix over the last few years. The Cartage filter for my 13 Camry, is actually a CHAMP filter but its in a FRAM box. So you dont know whos filter your really getting these days! Purolator filters are made by Mann and Hummel, IMO they are probably better then the FRAM and Champ filters
Not Impressed to be Honest for their highest end Filter.
Look at Whip City Wrencher’s review of the Microgard Select. Superb construction and no sloppy glue.
Instead of using the Ac Delco PF46 filter, try the PF61 filter on your truck. It's longer and has more filter media and costs the same as the 46. I showed this to my friend who has a Surburban and now the 61 is all he uses. Easier to screw on and off too.
Good stuff Jimmy! I agree 100 percent with you about never going 25k miles before changing the oil. Then again, I drive a 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban with a 7.4 (454) and it's all metal... So, 3500 miles is my personal limit. Thanks for sharing. Funny, manufactures usually don't want things to last but I'm sure the bean counters still manage a profit somehow. Can't wait to see what's next.
Through oil analysis, I find my 454TBI can go 7500 miles on Mobil 1 high mileage 10W-30. The parameter that goes out of spec is total dissolved solids. I ignore the timeline and end up changing every 2 years, combined with a Mobil 1 oil filter or K & N. At 173,000 miles now. Since I don't have roller lifters, I add some ZDDP to boost the conc even though the high mile formula has some.
why would you buy a filter recommended by the manufacturer but not follow the recommended oil filter change inervals?
I don’t care what they say. I’m not going anywhere near 25k miles before and oil change. Doesn’t matter I won’t go over 5k and the oil gets changed 👍
Nobody is saying 25k for the oil change. It's saying how long the filter outlasts the oil. The additives in the oil are what breaks down. Oil should always be changed from 3k-5k.
The Endurance filter flows 3 times as much oil as most other filters while removing even more dirt.
That "goopy glue" is what stops the oil from passing thru the gaps in the filter. I kno it should be obvious but the filter media goes in out, in out all the way around. This is the first filter in a cartridge style that is actually sealed at both ends forcing all of the oil to be filtered. I do wonder if this is the fram titanium rebranded for walmart, I'll figure that out next oil change
Imo, the OG Ultra XG, the best filter of the bunch. Two ply full synthetic wire backed. Unfortunately, First Brands decided to cheapen the media to a thin synthetic layer backed by blended media for support. Price stayed the same. Endurance a good filter, but some applications downsized and ~$4 more than OG Ultra.
I think I'll throw my money at the Amsoil filters that cost at least double the Fram filters, but they also go far beyond the industry standards of other filter companies, including Wix.
Where do you buy them?
@@1RoadGarage You'd have to buy them online, because I haven't actually found them anywhere in retail stores haha.
@@NothingMuchHereToSayFram endurance is an amsoil filter. That was proven recently 😂 and for way cheaper!
This is literally the Amsoil filter which is made by Champion labs. Feel free to search here on UA-cam and watch as they cut them open and are literally identical. I am not saying don't use Amsoil oil or filters because it only saves you $5 bucks as a preferred member, but facts are facts. The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum has nearly toppled the Signature series now. But Fram Endurance is Amsoil EAO/EA15K filters.
@@leahlesley1035 Amsoil may only cost $5 more. But there is also the convenience factor of being able to pick up the Synthetic Endurance at your local Walmart vs having to order online and wait to have it shipped to you.
I’ll stick with Wix. The whole auto system is designed to kill your motor earlier with these fillers and parts of “convenience ” . I’ll stick with Wix every 3,000 miles. It’s all about the micron percentage.
WIX is great
The synthetic new filter threads are the bottom warp so easy making it slip when trying to remove it. I end up having to puncture a hole with screw driver to remove it. I wished they coated the thread with those black stuff.
Why not change the oil every 3,000 - 5,000 miles and the filter at 25,000 miles? Makes less oil filters in the landfill.
I have on a 25k mile oil filter; I change my engine oil at 8k. Why shouldn’t I leave the oil filter on for another 8k miles?
they should use the new standard for testing like the cybertruck see if it is bulletproof for driving through riots.
No matter what I still change my oil at 3 to 5 k
Rather use this one than a AC Delco
This endurance is identical to the Amsoil
Wix filters caused hydraulic failures on our cat and John deere excavators and switched to Baldwin filters and problems solved.
Wish they would have included the grippy stuff.. That really made it a lot easier to take off AND put on.
The entire outside of the filter has grippy stuff. I installed one on my car two days ago.
What about change the oil filter every other oil change sounds great
I have been an AC Delco man when it comes to oil filters I switch to Fram and now I'm using wix if you want to cut up oil filters and show the inside of all of them Dr 3 or 4 different brands it might shock you it did me and this is in my 2000 GMC Yukon XL with 368,000 Mi on it❤
What I’m interested in is if using the Fe filter would your oil pressure increase since it says “high-flow” because back then when they use to sell the K&N filters my oil pressure was higher that’s the only reason I used them but I’m still pissed they cost $12.97 like really😒 I get it it’s a royal purple filter at Frams cost but why did they have to get rid of the K&Ns
I wouldn't install any fram on any of my own vehicles let alone my customer vehicles
I’ve seen cut-open Frams with collapsed center-core louvers and glue slop all over the filter media.
@@ChicagoRob2 yeah there not well made there just thrown together to make as many as they can because there supplied at all Walmarts and most auto stores
Cool. I've used the Kirkland full synthetic for the last 20 oil changes (5w-30, 5k mile OCI, OEM filter). My 2006 Matrix has over 213,000k and runs perfect. It's just as good as Mobil 1 IMO. I'm still kicking myself for not buying 5 boxes of the stuff when they were going for $21 (it's now like $37).
Every once in a while it goes on sale for about $30. That’s for 10 quarts! Cheap.
I've been using the full synthetic Rural King branded oil. It seems to do great and is the cheapest oil you can find.
it sucks the price doubled just like that =(
With the current car market and Biden-economy, people are running their cars longer and need better maintenance products per buck. Even Amsoil formulated a brand new, high mileage oil for car owners today.
Well...which is better? Fram synthetic endurance, or Purolator Boss?
IMHO, Fram can't be trusted for quality. Mobil 1, AMSOIL, K&N, or in emergency AC Delco for me.
I really like the 1" hex nut welded on the K&N. However they are for max flow like racing and don't filter as fine of particles. Robust engines like 350 and 454 old school should be fine with them. LS and modern, I don't know how finicky they are.
I'm surprised you don't experiment with pulling filters on every system. I'm looking to put a coolant filter in
Won't run it more than 7500 miles max, with synthetic oil.
Yes, words of wisdom. Based on analysis, Blackstone Labs tells me not to go more than 7500 miles per change, and that’s with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W20 and the excellent Denso-manufactured Mazda OEM filter. I go 5000 miles, to keep my oil change combo in the sweet zone.
It costs less than $5, why do you need it to last forever. 👍
The question of the day is do you still have to oil The gasket on this new style of oil filter by fram
I just leave the used oil on the flange from removing the previous filter. Not sure if that’s recommended though 🤔
@@1RoadGarage thanks for your reply on this matter young man 👍😎😁 I've been told that when you get a new one to oil The gasket so it's not going to be a problem with it at the next oil filter change
If i have to choose 1, quality oil or quality filter I would choose quality oil everytime. Even if that meant using a Fram filter..
Good point
I was just reading about the new micro glass technology. It seems to be only in high end filters now.
I run dino oil and the cheapest framm filter. I run 1000000 miles no problems yet
25k is way to many miles
It’s the same as the royal purple filter and a few bucks cheaper.
I'm more interested in the combination of flow and filtration efficiency than capacity. The filter can have a capacity of 35 grams, but if it's restrictive, or letting 25-micron particles through, I'm not going to be a fan.
They ran the test that you would like to see and it is impressive its on tube look it up you will like the results
@@samuelhomer8885, I'm wondering if it's the same filter as the Purolator Boss and Wix XP.
I was wondering" you don't fill' your filters with oil, before you put em' on ?🤔
Yeah. Did you see how long it was before his oil pressure came up after he started the engine? 😮
did you know that some filters you cant prefill and on Caterpillar in all of their service manuals they say NOT to prefill the oil filter.
@@rickmoulton6337 For the past 50 years I've pre filled my oil filters, and so far......👌👍.
@@sjoeld57or you could follow the instructions or proper installation instead of just mindlessly doing whatever goes on in that hormone driven brain of yours 😂
@@sjoeld57 only takes a few seconds
I just found out my oem honda filters ive been using since day one are made by fram.
Interesting video
How many microns filtration 20, 25??
You guys are a very cute couple! Keep the videos coming! Great video.
Mayby it's for people who change oil but only the filter every other time.
Oil filters are cheap enough I'd never consider running a filter for 6,000 miles let alone 25,000
He got sponsored and he sold us
I literally wrote in big bold letters, twice, that it’s not sponsored. Sorry you missed that.
What's the thickness of the can
I go for K&N oil filter. Had them for every 5k miles on my lifted xB. And they are great.
Can’t go wrong. Also made in USA. And they are robust. The body of the oil filter is stronger. Try squeezing it
Heard good things about those. I’ve used them once or twice as well.
@@1RoadGarage oh they definitely do. For the price of the K&N oil filter.
They are worth it.
Also, I know u probably seen my other comment about led lights upgrade. They were one of my favorite from u to review about it.
What got my attention is that, u have favored front and rear turn signals. Along with ur brake lights.
Why not for the sylvania zevo front and rear turn signals, with a mechanical led flasher relay and zevo brake light bulbs?
I think it would be fascinating and interesting to see that ur vehicle Chevy suburban. Would make it look more premium and more fresher look than ever.
It just missin its ingredients
@@toyotabrony
How do you know they’re great?
@@Peter_Riis_DK the oil filter?
Because I’ve been using the same K&N oil filter, and with Castrol edge synthetic oil. This is my 14-15 oil change with K&N oil filter. And I had no issues with them whatsoever. Change them every 5k miles.
@@toyotabronyyou could use a potato and say they are great. Do you have any data?
I would use it but definitely not 25K miles. Maybe 8-9K
The Fram Synthetic Endurance has the same exact components as the Amsoil Filter. They look like both came out from the same factory.
They do, both made by Champion, exactly the same.
CONSULT WITH THE WHIP CITY WRENCHER!!! On another point: Will that one compete the PUROLATOR Boss??? Doubt it.
These filters replaced the K&N filters at my local Walmart.
I run K&N and pennzoil in my 03 suburban z71
FK FRAM! They violated my trust for many years and will never see another dollar from this guy! Napa Gold for the win!
why not compare different fram filters for the same car?
Brand Ranks released a video just like this, it was pretty cool
Ultra synthetic is garbage after 4 months I changed my frame filter and the synthetic media was coming apart! I went right back to Mobil one filters!
Thanks
You look like the Dad from Family Ties
thank you for this tutorial
and such a pretty lady !
What is the problem? Change oil and filter max per 5.000 miles. End of story. These insane extended filters and oils are just to destroy your engine.
Fram sucks! Wix only
Seriously though, what makes you say that?
Some of their older stuff had issues, but the newer Fram Ultra Syn filters are great. People who've done actual side-by-side teardowns really like them.
@@1RoadGarage Suckered... Watch some vids comparing them to wix
Hey anyone notice that the none of the Fram haven a oil bypass valve if the oil filter gets clogged no bypass valve to allow engine to still get oil
Bypass valves depend on intended application. Some newer engines and many older engines (like a SBC) have the bypass valve on the engine itself.
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The cardboard ends contribute heavily to adding sludge, the fibers break down and flow into the oil passages. Avoid these at all costs.
Is that an oil filter magnet on the side of that OF? If so what type is it?
I kinda love these oil change “debates”. I’m somewhere around 20,000 miles since my last oil change in my ‘00 Suburban. I do check it fairly regularly, and it still isn’t too dark. It’s still got quite a “honey” look to it, and not far off maximum. I have been doing the same with my S10 Blazers. 30,000 miles and I thought it was definitely time to change it. It was a little darker than new oil, but definitely not what I would call bad. I think it could have done another 5,000, but no more really. All three vehicles use the same 5w30 fully synthetic from a national chain here in the UK. While it’s probably best practice to change at 3-5k, it’s practically unheard of in the circles I frequent. When people have asked how often I’m supposed to change the oil, they’re shocked at how short it is. Most people I know drive cars where service intervals are recommended at between 20 and 40 thousand miles. I’ve seen only once some oil that looked like sludge or treacle on the inside of an engine, and that was on a Ford where it literally hadn’t been changed in 100,500 miles. The service book backed this up. It had gone in for its first service at 500 miles, and never returned.
Is it cardboard or some kind of fabric?
BAD TESTS ???? NEED TO TEST THE SAME MODEL/TYPE OF VEHICLE..... TEST APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON??????
medium, not media