Great video! Retired here.. been using the least expensive Fram oil filter (extra guard now) since high school. Change oil every 3000k and never had a problem. Currently have 357k on my 2002 5.3 Silverado.
😂 so you’ve been doing the BARE MINIMUM required and your engine is still functioning. Wow. 🤦🏻♂️ Does that really mean anything? Your engine could be burning oil and is really dirty inside from the el cheapo filters yet still work just fine.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about No, never the bare minimum Artem... always what's required. Truck does not burn oil.. just been well taken care of, with a great platform to start with. My point being.. never had an issue with Fram oil filters, on regular changes, over the past 50 years. Own many vehicles.. and oil changes/schedules are top priority for me. Your new and not so familiar with all of this I'm thinking??? Best luck!
Great job.. doing an oil change that frequently.. hope it lasts a lot longer. I think it is hard to compare oil filters without having duplicate vehicles with different oil change intervals or filters to really compare
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Do you know what I’m what you’re talking about? Doing an oil change every 1800 miles is way more than the minimum, it’s less than half of what the recommended interval is. That oil was probably coming out pretty clean at that mileage.
Honestly, I change my oil filter with every oil change. I use the 20k filter and oil, but never go over 5k miles between changes. Some may call it a waste of money. However, it's relatively cheap, especially for maintenance care.
Greetings from Germany, I fully agree with you. Changing the engine oil and filter every 5k miles (8k kilomters for us in Europe), is the best you can do to protect an engine and ensure viscosity/lubricarion. Furthermore, if your driving mainly around town, it might be prudent to change the engine oil & filter every 3k miles (a bit less than 5k kilometers). With kind regards, TH
@ryanfelton7385 - it is cheap enough to throw away after only 5k miles of use but you COULD drain it during an OC and run it another 5k because technically, the filter is still perfectly good to go and you’ve only used up 20% of it. 🤷🏻♂️
It is like when your crazy drunk uncle starts during thanksgiving dinner to say that he changes his oil at maximum 3000 miles because of anything more isn't what god intended when he made Adam and Eve.
I'm a fan of the Endurance. Based on the specs and appearance, it seems to be the same as the Amsoil filter with a different paint job and label for 30-40% less money..
Definitely has been proven that it is a match to the Amsoil EAO/EA15K series filters made by Champion labs. Walmart stocks all the Fram Endurance models. That is the only place that carries them so far from my searches. I bought the standard size and the larger filter that fits my Ford. FE3600 and our Jeep GC V6 25k cartridge filter for $12.97 each. My Amsoil preferred account is $17.40, so it really is a wash. Just depends on what oil you want to run. Amsoil has three worthy, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Valvoline Advanced, Valvoline Extended Performance, and Extended Performance High Mileage has all the high additive wear packages and high TBN. I do Blackstone labs oil analysis on my oils when I change them, but I do not do extended oil changes. 5000-7500 maximum regardless what kind of lettuce they are smoking.
@@emed1977 after further inspection, I see the Amsoil filter media is not the same as the fram endurance. The fram endurance is a synthetic and cellulose blend. The Amsoil filter media is exclusively synthetic, so it has higher flow.
Recently changed over to synthetic oil and filter after 20 years of running cellulose fram in my Cummins. My oil pressure is way better at all rpm’s. Thought about getting the amsoil filter but saw endurance and amsoil taken apart in a video. Chose the best bang for the buck.
Great video, I always change my oil @5000 miles with full synthetic oil.I never run conventional oil or synthetic blend. Changing oil at regular intervals with quality oil and quality filters is a sure way to get alot of miles out of your vehicle.
God bless you and thank you for sharing. I have the 98 F150 Essex V6 and 235,000 miles. I use Motocraft 5w20 every eight thousand miles and have driven it 20 years
Good video. Just so you know, the words "Product of USA" does not mean that it was "Made in the USA"! Thanks, Jimmy, for all that you do to keep us informed!
I don't think Fram is saying that with this filtrer you can change the oil in 25k miles intervals. I believe Fram is offer an longer interval for your filtre, not your oil.
😂 right? The point here is the OIL FILTER. Change the oil, but keep the filter going for a second or third oil change before finally replacing it. If the filter can offer you 25,000 miles of FILTRATION, why dump it after only 5k miles of use??? 🤦🏻♂️ You’re throwing away a perfectly good oil filter that still has over 80% life left in it.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about I would change the filter anyway because it contains a good amount of dirty oil. I guess you could remove it and dump most of it out but if you're going to that much trouble you might as well stick a fresh one on there.
The Amsoil EAO, Purolator Boss, and Royal Purple Extended Life all also feature the same white, micro-glass synthetic media. These are all their top level oil filters with the same [extended] service mileage.
people nowadays are the only reason their vehicle has any problems and they tend to blame either the vehicle, the brand of part, or the rust belt. Nevermind that they are the dumbass that thought cutting wires under the hood was a good idea or pressure washing the motor or using fram filters, or turbo/ supercharged engines that the engine wasn't designed to deal with the increased compression or just flat out stupidity when it comes to regular maintenance schedules
@@alanmerritt860 With modern filters that's still practical. Go 3k miles, change just the oil and keep filter installed. Go another 3k miles, change both oil and new filter. Repeat. You'll still only be at 6k for oil filter changes, which is below almost every auto manufacturer service interval these days.
They dont change oil, they change 3 engines in 10 years😂, i have customers like that: every time i put another engine in their car they Say: "this time i wouldnt forget the oil change" then they disappear to come at my garage 2 years later with the engine knocking 😂
this is a common misconception. Doing this or not doing this will make zero difference. maybe in old cars or extreme conditions this might make a difference.
That Fram endurance is a top notch filter, I could tell the second I opened the box, it looks like it's made by Amsoil but less expensive, I'll be going back to Wal-Mart and buy a couple more for my Subie XT. Oh, GM is always going to suggest you buy their AC Delco garbage, they own AC Delco.
I work at Walmart in the Auto Care Center and Fram is Walmart's corporate contracted oil filter. We use the COR line which is intended for commercial sales such as an Auto Care Center. They are similar to the Orange box Fram Extra Guard, just without the fancy stencils the Extra Guard has. However, when I have my own vehicles oil changed, I run the Ultra Synthetic filters. I have a 99 Chevy Silverado I bought in 2011, and have run Mobil 1 Synthetic in it for almost that whole time, no engine related issues with that truck. It's solid. I also have a 2006 Dodge Grand Caravan, running the same oil/filter setup in it too. I just bought a 2005 Grand Caravan with a lot of miles and a couple of engine issues. The engine is solid but is throwing a P0016 code, camshaft or crankshaft position sensors not corresponding. I have both sensors but haven't replaced them yet, they are a bit of a chore to accomplish but doable. The previous owner used it as his daily driver, running it about 100 miles round trip every day, and I'm not sure what his service interval was, so I'm going to do a couple short intervals using Marvel Mystery Oil the last few hundred miles to help clean it out. I'm suspecting the variable valve system might be gummed up too, so hopefully this will help clean that up and start it running better. (That can also possibly cause the P0016 engine code). After that I'm going to run the Mobil 1/Ultra Synthetic oil setup I'm using in the other vehicles. Everyone just remember that Fram was the original aftermarket oil filter manufacturer and have been in business for about 100 years now. In this amount of time, they should know what they are doing, so personally, I'm 100% confident in running Fram products. My family has been farming for decades where we ran Fram filters on tractors, trucks, combines and a whole host of self propelled farming equipment, and we have rarely ever had an engine failure, and those that happened were not from a bad Fram filter. My Grandpa even ran the local Gambles Hardware Store and carried Fram filters, and he never had anyone come back with a bad one. So that's a pretty solid track record. Nothing wrong with running a Fram.
Any luck with the Marvel Mystery Oil on your Grand Caravan Danny? My father swears by that stuff. Thinking about giving it a try on my old F150 4.6. 👍🏽
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Still driving it with the MMO but will be changing it in a couple weeks. I suspect it needs a new timing chain and another short duration oil change.
I use the Fram line of filters, and I too change my oil every 3-5,000 miles. Just a note: if you noticed, when you started your engine, it took about 5 seconds to get oil pressure. Thats not good. When changing your oil filter you should fill the filter with oil before you put it on. That way you will get pressure almost immediately. No dry starts. Just a tip from an old timer.
I've never pre filled an oil filter in my life. Didn't even know it was a thing untill I started watching videos on UA-cam. Beside you can't prefill one if it goes on upside down like my 63 dodge dart.
@@alanmerritt860 You can 'prime' a dry filter before starting the engine. Hold down full throttle and try cranking the engine over for 5-10 seconds. This will circulate oil without actually starting the car. Once you learn this trick you never even need to bother prefilling a filter.
I will never use another fram filter. I stopped using fram garbage years ago when I found out just how cheap and poor quality they were made. A little while ago the parts store was out of the normal filter I use for my 2000 jeep Cherokee so I used a Fram ultra guard. Having seen good reviews on them I figured I was safe just this one time. In less than 3,000 miles it started leaking from the seal. I checked and it was tight, but not too tight. So I did an oil change and the seal on the filter had actually gone concave. Lesson learned....don't even use a fram in a pinch. Go find an actual quality filter.
These filters are Amsoil clones made by the same manufacturer for walmart. Other youtubers have cut them open and can confirm they are the same. So they are excellent filters for the money.
why on earth do they rate oil filters by how long you can go between oil changes people who change their own oil are not going to go past 7500 miles i would guess otherwise they would just let dealer do oil changes. I want to know how good is filter at removing particles not rating on mileage.
Absolutely correct. Brand Ranks does his testing exactly as you state. Particle removal at 3 different micron ratings. Total grams of contaminants that it can hold before it reaches 8psi restriction and flow rate psi drop on both hot and cold oil temp. His testing is much more decisive than simple cutting filters open and giving visual observation and reading the mileage rating on the side of the box!!
Jimmy, I always enjoy your videos and I like the way you analyze everything you do! It is a personal preference for different people it’s be my experience on my vehicles like my 1993 Z71 I run wix or AC Delco I’ve done a lot of research and to me “and this is just my opinion “ on any of my vehicles the only oil filters I’ll trust are WIX, K&N, AC delco or Amzoil. But Never Fran again just my opinion for what it’s worth keep your videos coming I love them!👍🏼
FRAM and CHAMP labs are now owned by the same parent company. I think the name is First Products. They have messing around with their product mix over the last few years. The Cartage filter for my 13 Camry, is actually a CHAMP filter but its in a FRAM box. So you dont know whos filter your really getting these days! Purolator filters are made by Mann and Hummel, IMO they are probably better then the FRAM and Champ filters
I use either Wix or AmsOil filters myself. Like oils, it's a matter of personal preference. Oh, and include your wife in more videos, Jimmy! Thanks man!
I mean fram has been proven to be trash for decades the only reason they were popular is because they hired the old guy from breaking bad to lie straight to your face in the commercials
@@Peter_Riis_DK since they decided to used aluminum can thick filters with glued paper filters that would get dissolved by the oil and gas causing the filter pleates to separate between the staples. 🤮
Brand Ranks testing has the Fram Endurance filter as their #3 performing oil filter just behind Purolator Boss and Amsoil. So top performing filter that will do very well at keeping your oil clean.
on my 2006 Yukon with the 5.3 I use the application for 2002. It's a longer filter. I've been using my case of old stock Delco PF 59 or the wix equivalent. Napa GOLD are also good.
Good stuff Jimmy! I agree 100 percent with you about never going 25k miles before changing the oil. Then again, I drive a 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban with a 7.4 (454) and it's all metal... So, 3500 miles is my personal limit. Thanks for sharing. Funny, manufactures usually don't want things to last but I'm sure the bean counters still manage a profit somehow. Can't wait to see what's next.
Through oil analysis, I find my 454TBI can go 7500 miles on Mobil 1 high mileage 10W-30. The parameter that goes out of spec is total dissolved solids. I ignore the timeline and end up changing every 2 years, combined with a Mobil 1 oil filter or K & N. At 173,000 miles now. Since I don't have roller lifters, I add some ZDDP to boost the conc even though the high mile formula has some.
Holding out for the 50k version. J/K. I really wish manufacturers of oils and filters stopped these 15k, 20k, etc, labeled products. It's really giving consumers the wrong idea, considering not one single automaker recommends those intervals on their engines.
I have a 2006 Altima and I always change the oil and filter every 3,000 miles. Could I extend it to 5,000 miles or even more? Probably, but every 3,000 miles puts my mind at ease 😂
Great video only criticism I have is you should use the same filter across the lineup. Part numbers may differ but I think it will give a better comparison
That Fram FE filter is well constructed filter. High quality. I wouldn't go past 7,500 miles on that filter. Not because of the filter, but because of the full synthetic oil. 25,000 miles before a full synthetic oil change is ridiculous to say the least.
From what I gather many an engine has met an early demise from the owner being told they can run 25000 miles and so they don't change the filter along the way, they do drive the vehicle as per the severe service cycle ( short runs, cold weather, stop and go traffic ) and then wonder why their engine blew up !. Situations like this have been going on since the 1970's when synthetic oil came out and someone came up with the brain wave of marketing such insanity of the 25000 mile oil change to sell (con ) over priced oil.
The synthetic new filter threads are the bottom warp so easy making it slip when trying to remove it. I end up having to puncture a hole with screw driver to remove it. I wished they coated the thread with those black stuff.
That "goopy glue" is what stops the oil from passing thru the gaps in the filter. I kno it should be obvious but the filter media goes in out, in out all the way around. This is the first filter in a cartridge style that is actually sealed at both ends forcing all of the oil to be filtered. I do wonder if this is the fram titanium rebranded for walmart, I'll figure that out next oil change
Instead of using the Ac Delco PF46 filter, try the PF61 filter on your truck. It's longer and has more filter media and costs the same as the 46. I showed this to my friend who has a Surburban and now the 61 is all he uses. Easier to screw on and off too.
I am curious what brand that is ( yes I realize this is an older video ) as I have never ran a fram filter on anything myself, mostly fleetguard, a few baldwin, John Deere, Cat, some Purolator, Donaldson ( air filters ) Of course JD and Cat don't make their filters but get them made to their specs. I just think fram did themselves a disservice by building such cheap filters as their standard filter as all demo filter displays at farm dealerships or elsewhere have a fram filter to show what an extreme low end filter looks like inside.
Because fram has a history of causing engine failures and being a dishonest company using very shady marketing practices and their products are trash compared to the competition. They used to say they were the best filters even when oil was dissolving the paper and glue they were using for the filters and having like 1/5th the filter surface area of even the cheapest brands on the shelf
Having a filter that will hold up and have good flow after 15, 20, or 25 thousand miles would be a really good idea, but I would still go with changing the oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles. I would not be changing my filter every time. Maybe every 2nd or 3rd oil change. "Why?" you may ask. As the filter starts to get dirty it will filter out smaller and smaller particles. As some of the holes get partially plugged it creates some smaller holes that will be able to trap even smaller pieces. This will actually work kind of like a bypass filtration system. You just need to make sure that you have a filter that won't break down, plus will keep a good flow rate even after it is partially plugged.
I asked the same question: Can I just keep the same oil filter if it is rated for 15k miles and just change the oil since I change the oil every 5k. Oil filter company answer is: change the filter at the same time you change the oil.
@@Simple_UA-cam If a person does that, then that just means more sales for that company. If it's good for 15K then there would be no reason to do that, well except to give the oil company more sales.
I have been an AC Delco man when it comes to oil filters I switch to Fram and now I'm using wix if you want to cut up oil filters and show the inside of all of them Dr 3 or 4 different brands it might shock you it did me and this is in my 2000 GMC Yukon XL with 368,000 Mi on it❤
Imo, the OG Ultra XG, the best filter of the bunch. Two ply full synthetic wire backed. Unfortunately, First Brands decided to cheapen the media to a thin synthetic layer backed by blended media for support. Price stayed the same. Endurance a good filter, but some applications downsized and ~$4 more than OG Ultra.
What I’m interested in is if using the Fe filter would your oil pressure increase since it says “high-flow” because back then when they use to sell the K&N filters my oil pressure was higher that’s the only reason I used them but I’m still pissed they cost $12.97 like really😒 I get it it’s a royal purple filter at Frams cost but why did they have to get rid of the K&Ns
@@1RoadGarage thanks for your reply on this matter young man 👍😎😁 I've been told that when you get a new one to oil The gasket so it's not going to be a problem with it at the next oil filter change
I think I'll throw my money at the Amsoil filters that cost at least double the Fram filters, but they also go far beyond the industry standards of other filter companies, including Wix.
This is literally the Amsoil filter which is made by Champion labs. Feel free to search here on UA-cam and watch as they cut them open and are literally identical. I am not saying don't use Amsoil oil or filters because it only saves you $5 bucks as a preferred member, but facts are facts. The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum has nearly toppled the Signature series now. But Fram Endurance is Amsoil EAO/EA15K filters.
@@leahlesley1035 Amsoil may only cost $5 more. But there is also the convenience factor of being able to pick up the Synthetic Endurance at your local Walmart vs having to order online and wait to have it shipped to you.
@@sjoeld57or you could follow the instructions or proper installation instead of just mindlessly doing whatever goes on in that hormone driven brain of yours 😂
Nobody is saying 25k for the oil change. It's saying how long the filter outlasts the oil. The additives in the oil are what breaks down. Oil should always be changed from 3k-5k.
I use this endurance Fram. I changed my oil Supertech 20K miles every 6K miles/3mos and replaced the filter every other oil change (12K miles/6 mos). No issues.
Cool. I've used the Kirkland full synthetic for the last 20 oil changes (5w-30, 5k mile OCI, OEM filter). My 2006 Matrix has over 213,000k and runs perfect. It's just as good as Mobil 1 IMO. I'm still kicking myself for not buying 5 boxes of the stuff when they were going for $21 (it's now like $37).
I'm more interested in the combination of flow and filtration efficiency than capacity. The filter can have a capacity of 35 grams, but if it's restrictive, or letting 25-micron particles through, I'm not going to be a fan.
I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of those. I narrowed my choice to those two filters and decided to go with the Endurance. After doing some research it’s basically an Amsoil filter for half the cost. It filters a little better than the Boss as well
Depending on the vehicle model, some have the bypass valve integrated into the filter mount area so it’s not needed inside the filter itself. A Chevrolet 305 would be a good example of this but many modern cars have a similar setup.
@1RoadGarage at one point, they were using deceptive marketing and making sub-par filters. If you're interested, look into some filter testing done a few years ago, and you will see why I come to not trust them as a company. Thanks for the awesome videos. I hope you have a great day.
I’ll stick with Wix. The whole auto system is designed to kill your motor earlier with these fillers and parts of “convenience ” . I’ll stick with Wix every 3,000 miles. It’s all about the micron percentage.
80 to 90 percent of engine wear occurs at startup. So, flow is just as important as micron size. Pushing for a lower micron size (20 or lower) requires more restrictive medium thus reducing flow..A white blood cell is 25 micron. Your engine, you be the judge.
The sad part about this is that there will be a lot of dumb ppl that r gonna fall for the 20k miles filter change. Don’t do it. You will regret it. I guarantee u some ppl will Change the oil and not the filter.
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Great video! Retired here.. been using the least expensive Fram oil filter (extra guard now) since high school. Change oil every 3000k and never had a problem. Currently have 357k on my 2002 5.3 Silverado.
😂 so you’ve been doing the BARE MINIMUM required and your engine is still functioning. Wow. 🤦🏻♂️
Does that really mean anything? Your engine could be burning oil and is really dirty inside from the el cheapo filters yet still work just fine.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about No, never the bare minimum Artem... always what's required. Truck does not burn oil.. just been well taken care of, with a great platform to start with. My point being.. never had an issue with Fram oil filters, on regular changes, over the past 50 years. Own many vehicles.. and oil changes/schedules are top priority for me. Your new and not so familiar with all of this I'm thinking??? Best luck!
Great job.. doing an oil change that frequently.. hope it lasts a lot longer. I think it is hard to compare oil filters without having duplicate vehicles with different oil change intervals or filters to really compare
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Do you know what I’m what you’re talking about? Doing an oil change every 1800 miles is way more than the minimum, it’s less than half of what the recommended interval is. That oil was probably coming out pretty clean at that mileage.
That works for the application. There are filters that are light years better but, if you’re only going 3000 miles then it will work.
Honestly, I change my oil filter with every oil change. I use the 20k filter and oil, but never go over 5k miles between changes. Some may call it a waste of money. However, it's relatively cheap, especially for maintenance care.
Greetings from Germany,
I fully agree with you.
Changing the engine oil and filter every 5k miles (8k kilomters for us in Europe), is the best you can do to protect an engine and ensure viscosity/lubricarion.
Furthermore, if your driving mainly around town, it might be prudent to change the engine oil & filter every 3k miles (a bit less than 5k kilometers).
With kind regards,
TH
@ryanfelton7385 - it is cheap enough to throw away after only 5k miles of use but you COULD drain it during an OC and run it another 5k because technically, the filter is still perfectly good to go and you’ve only used up 20% of it. 🤷🏻♂️
As the saying goes, oil is cheap, engines are not!
It's a shame there's so many people buying into the extended interval BS
@@jankington216 I am a firm believer in, don't trust anyone trying to sell you something ;)
Three things to never discuss in polite company: Religion, Politics, Oil Filters and Oil. 😂
lifeless you are
How dare you bring up oil filters!
It is like when your crazy drunk uncle starts during thanksgiving dinner to say that he changes his oil at maximum 3000 miles because of anything more isn't what god intended when he made Adam and Eve.
Crash safety offered by older vehicles, that's a BS hiding to nowhere. (Old cars obviously aren't safe)
I talk about them all the time. Especially oil filters ! 😊
I'm a fan of the Endurance. Based on the specs and appearance, it seems to be the same as the Amsoil filter with a different paint job and label for 30-40% less money..
Definitely has been proven that it is a match to the Amsoil EAO/EA15K series filters made by Champion labs. Walmart stocks all the Fram Endurance models. That is the only place that carries them so far from my searches. I bought the standard size and the larger filter that fits my Ford. FE3600 and our Jeep GC V6 25k cartridge filter for $12.97 each. My Amsoil preferred account is $17.40, so it really is a wash. Just depends on what oil you want to run. Amsoil has three worthy, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Valvoline Advanced, Valvoline Extended Performance, and Extended Performance High Mileage has all the high additive wear packages and high TBN. I do Blackstone labs oil analysis on my oils when I change them, but I do not do extended oil changes. 5000-7500 maximum regardless what kind of lettuce they are smoking.
There have been some videos where they opened them up, and they were exactly the same.
@@emed1977 after further inspection, I see the Amsoil filter media is not the same as the fram endurance. The fram endurance is a synthetic and cellulose blend. The Amsoil filter media is exclusively synthetic, so it has higher flow.
The boys have a new toy to play with good goody now let's get on with the show
Recently changed over to synthetic oil and filter after 20 years of running cellulose fram in my Cummins. My oil pressure is way better at all rpm’s. Thought about getting the amsoil filter but saw endurance and amsoil taken apart in a video. Chose the best bang for the buck.
Great video, I always change my oil @5000 miles with full synthetic oil.I never run conventional oil or synthetic blend.
Changing oil at regular intervals with quality oil and quality filters is a sure way to get alot of miles out of your vehicle.
350,000 miles on my 2005 chevy 6.0 Vortec using Fram Ultra and SuperTech 5w30 Full Synth every 7.5k miles - why fix what ain't broke ....
God bless you and thank you for sharing. I have the 98 F150 Essex V6 and 235,000 miles. I use Motocraft 5w20 every eight thousand miles and have driven it 20 years
This new Fram filter is $10.00 cheaper than the Amsoil and is made with the same exact components.
Yea… because it’s FRAM and Walmart. They do whatever they want. 🤷🏻♂️
I typically buy an Amsoil EA15K13 for $10.35 each, or about $2.65 LESS than the Synthetic Endurance.
@kimmillard94where??????45
Both are made by Champion Labs
Good video. Just so you know, the words "Product of USA" does not mean that it was "Made in the USA"! Thanks, Jimmy, for all that you do to keep us informed!
It was the bypass valve that was chincy on frams. Still looks the same causing it to not filter
The high end Frams can't be beat. Best efficiency/micron ratings by far. Ultra or Endurance are new best filters.
I don't think Fram is saying that with this filtrer you can change the oil in 25k miles intervals. I believe Fram is offer an longer interval for your filtre, not your oil.
😂 right? The point here is the OIL FILTER.
Change the oil, but keep the filter going for a second or third oil change before finally replacing it.
If the filter can offer you 25,000 miles of FILTRATION, why dump it after only 5k miles of use??? 🤦🏻♂️
You’re throwing away a perfectly good oil filter that still has over 80% life left in it.
Isn't the oil what lasts longer than filters?
@I_know_what_im_talking_about I would change the filter anyway because it contains a good amount of dirty oil. I guess you could remove it and dump most of it out but if you're going to that much trouble you might as well stick a fresh one on there.
You should have pre-filled that new oil filter before installing onto the engine.
And why didn’t you compare to a ToughGuard as well?
The Amsoil EAO, Purolator Boss, and Royal Purple Extended Life all also feature the same white, micro-glass synthetic media. These are all their top level oil filters with the same [extended] service mileage.
Anyone who reuses oil filters after an oil change needs to educate themselves. Or start Savin money for their next vehicle.
people nowadays are the only reason their vehicle has any problems and they tend to blame either the vehicle, the brand of part, or the rust belt. Nevermind that they are the dumbass that thought cutting wires under the hood was a good idea or pressure washing the motor or using fram filters, or turbo/ supercharged engines that the engine wasn't designed to deal with the increased compression or just flat out stupidity when it comes to regular maintenance schedules
Years ago that's what was recommended. Oil filter every other oil change.
@@alanmerritt860 With modern filters that's still practical. Go 3k miles, change just the oil and keep filter installed. Go another 3k miles, change both oil and new filter. Repeat. You'll still only be at 6k for oil filter changes, which is below almost every auto manufacturer service interval these days.
They dont change oil, they change 3 engines in 10 years😂, i have customers like that: every time i put another engine in their car they Say: "this time i wouldnt forget the oil change" then they disappear to come at my garage 2 years later with the engine knocking 😂
@@gillespriod5509 lolol
The endurance is VERY good filter ! The wire backed media indicates this filter can last a long time
Top tip. When your oil filter is oriented as shown, fill it with oil before installing. Gets the oil pressure up faster.
Good call.
You can also add a good slug of oil in the ones mounted sideways to help filling. New oil on the gasket and wipe old oil off the mounting flange.
@@latrogeniwile58
Not quite a "good slug", or you'll spill most.
this is a common misconception. Doing this or not doing this will make zero difference. maybe in old cars or extreme conditions this might make a difference.
@@icarris1
Why? You need to explain your claim as it contradicts common sense.
That Fram endurance is a top notch filter, I could tell the second I opened the box, it looks like it's made by Amsoil but less expensive, I'll be going back to Wal-Mart and buy a couple more for my Subie XT. Oh, GM is always going to suggest you buy their AC Delco garbage, they own AC Delco.
Atleast what Fram is saying on the box is actually correct on what's in the filter
I work at Walmart in the Auto Care Center and Fram is Walmart's corporate contracted oil filter. We use the COR line which is intended for commercial sales such as an Auto Care Center. They are similar to the Orange box Fram Extra Guard, just without the fancy stencils the Extra Guard has. However, when I have my own vehicles oil changed, I run the Ultra Synthetic filters. I have a 99 Chevy Silverado I bought in 2011, and have run Mobil 1 Synthetic in it for almost that whole time, no engine related issues with that truck. It's solid.
I also have a 2006 Dodge Grand Caravan, running the same oil/filter setup in it too. I just bought a 2005 Grand Caravan with a lot of miles and a couple of engine issues. The engine is solid but is throwing a P0016 code, camshaft or crankshaft position sensors not corresponding. I have both sensors but haven't replaced them yet, they are a bit of a chore to accomplish but doable. The previous owner used it as his daily driver, running it about 100 miles round trip every day, and I'm not sure what his service interval was, so I'm going to do a couple short intervals using Marvel Mystery Oil the last few hundred miles to help clean it out. I'm suspecting the variable valve system might be gummed up too, so hopefully this will help clean that up and start it running better. (That can also possibly cause the P0016 engine code). After that I'm going to run the Mobil 1/Ultra Synthetic oil setup I'm using in the other vehicles.
Everyone just remember that Fram was the original aftermarket oil filter manufacturer and have been in business for about 100 years now. In this amount of time, they should know what they are doing, so personally, I'm 100% confident in running Fram products. My family has been farming for decades where we ran Fram filters on tractors, trucks, combines and a whole host of self propelled farming equipment, and we have rarely ever had an engine failure, and those that happened were not from a bad Fram filter. My Grandpa even ran the local Gambles Hardware Store and carried Fram filters, and he never had anyone come back with a bad one. So that's a pretty solid track record. Nothing wrong with running a Fram.
Any luck with the Marvel Mystery Oil on your Grand Caravan Danny? My father swears by that stuff. Thinking about giving it a try on my old F150 4.6.
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@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Still driving it with the MMO but will be changing it in a couple weeks. I suspect it needs a new timing chain and another short duration oil change.
I use the Fram line of filters, and I too change my oil every 3-5,000 miles. Just a note: if you noticed, when you started your engine, it took about 5 seconds to get oil pressure. Thats not good. When changing your oil filter you should fill the filter with oil before you put it on. That way you will get pressure almost immediately. No dry starts. Just a tip from an old timer.
I've never pre filled an oil filter in my life. Didn't even know it was a thing untill I started watching videos on UA-cam. Beside you can't prefill one if it goes on upside down like my 63 dodge dart.
We need to suggest a test of oil filters to mr. Project Farm.
Project farm is a fantastic channel!
@@alanmerritt860 You can 'prime' a dry filter before starting the engine. Hold down full throttle and try cranking the engine over for 5-10 seconds. This will circulate oil without actually starting the car. Once you learn this trick you never even need to bother prefilling a filter.
@@cup_and_cone it's not something I'm really concerned about.
I will never use another fram filter. I stopped using fram garbage years ago when I found out just how cheap and poor quality they were made. A little while ago the parts store was out of the normal filter I use for my 2000 jeep Cherokee so I used a Fram ultra guard. Having seen good reviews on them I figured I was safe just this one time. In less than 3,000 miles it started leaking from the seal. I checked and it was tight, but not too tight. So I did an oil change and the seal on the filter had actually gone concave. Lesson learned....don't even use a fram in a pinch. Go find an actual quality filter.
"Ultra guard" doesn't exist, bud.
@@xXJLNINJAXx well excuUuuUse me for having it wrong. Ultra synthetic, the gold piece of crap "BUD"
The lower end Frams are quantum levels inferior to the Endurance in construction and performance. This one is of the highest quality.
These filters are Amsoil clones made by the same manufacturer for walmart. Other youtubers have cut them open and can confirm they are the same. So they are excellent filters for the money.
why on earth do they rate oil filters by how long you can go between oil changes people who change their own oil are not going to go past 7500 miles i would guess otherwise they would just let dealer do oil changes. I want to know how good is filter at removing particles not rating on mileage.
Absolutely correct. Brand Ranks does his testing exactly as you state. Particle removal at 3 different micron ratings. Total grams of contaminants that it can hold before it reaches 8psi restriction and flow rate psi drop on both hot and cold oil temp. His testing is much more decisive than simple cutting filters open and giving visual observation and reading the mileage rating on the side of the box!!
Jimmy, I always enjoy your videos and I like the way you analyze everything you do! It is a personal preference for different people it’s be my experience on my vehicles like my 1993 Z71 I run wix or AC Delco I’ve done a lot of research and to me “and this is just my opinion “ on any of my vehicles the only oil filters I’ll trust are WIX, K&N, AC delco or Amzoil. But Never Fran again just my opinion for what it’s worth keep your videos coming I love them!👍🏼
FRAM and CHAMP labs are now owned by the same parent company. I think the name is First Products. They have messing around with their product mix over the last few years. The Cartage filter for my 13 Camry, is actually a CHAMP filter but its in a FRAM box. So you dont know whos filter your really getting these days! Purolator filters are made by Mann and Hummel, IMO they are probably better then the FRAM and Champ filters
You can use canola oil and a napkin just change it on time.Fram #1 oil filters of all time.100 years gong strong 💪.
I use either Wix or AmsOil filters myself. Like oils, it's a matter of personal preference. Oh, and include your wife in more videos, Jimmy! Thanks man!
I mean fram has been proven to be trash for decades the only reason they were popular is because they hired the old guy from breaking bad to lie straight to your face in the commercials
@@infernaldaedra
Who proved that - for decades?
I’ve had 2 wix leak. Amsoil is the exact same filter as the new Fram at 2x cost lol
@@Peter_Riis_DK since they decided to used aluminum can thick filters with glued paper filters that would get dissolved by the oil and gas causing the filter pleates to separate between the staples. 🤮
@@infernaldaedra
That's not the question. But thanks. 😘
Brand Ranks testing has the Fram Endurance filter as their #3 performing oil filter just behind Purolator Boss and Amsoil. So top performing filter that will do very well at keeping your oil clean.
on my 2006 Yukon with the 5.3 I use the application for 2002. It's a longer filter. I've been using my case of old stock Delco PF 59 or the wix equivalent. Napa GOLD are also good.
Good stuff Jimmy! I agree 100 percent with you about never going 25k miles before changing the oil. Then again, I drive a 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban with a 7.4 (454) and it's all metal... So, 3500 miles is my personal limit. Thanks for sharing. Funny, manufactures usually don't want things to last but I'm sure the bean counters still manage a profit somehow. Can't wait to see what's next.
Through oil analysis, I find my 454TBI can go 7500 miles on Mobil 1 high mileage 10W-30. The parameter that goes out of spec is total dissolved solids. I ignore the timeline and end up changing every 2 years, combined with a Mobil 1 oil filter or K & N. At 173,000 miles now. Since I don't have roller lifters, I add some ZDDP to boost the conc even though the high mile formula has some.
Just use the EXCELLENT Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. Cant beat it. I run 2 oil changes thru it w/excellent results. 💯
Holding out for the 50k version. J/K.
I really wish manufacturers of oils and filters stopped these 15k, 20k, etc, labeled products. It's really giving consumers the wrong idea, considering not one single automaker recommends those intervals on their engines.
I would never wait that long. I wonder what they could use as a marketing term/phrase instead??
I'm pretty sure some European cars with oil life monitors can go 20,000 or more miles between oil changes.
I have a 2006 Altima and I always change the oil and filter every 3,000 miles. Could I extend it to 5,000 miles or even more? Probably, but every 3,000 miles puts my mind at ease 😂
Mine too
if using a synthetic can easily do 5k and makes it easier to keep track of
@@ajamesc55 Most definitely, I still just do it at 3,000 miles. Idk why, but it’s cheap enough and I kinda enjoy doing it 😂
Send a sample to Blackstone Labs - based on their analysis, they will tell you what the ideal interval should be.
Great video only criticism I have is you should use the same filter across the lineup. Part numbers may differ but I think it will give a better comparison
Fram ultra synthetic are great filters.
They always claim high mileage for filters but you should always go by what the manufacturer recommends
That Fram FE filter is well constructed filter. High quality. I wouldn't go past 7,500 miles on that filter. Not because of the filter, but because of the full synthetic oil. 25,000 miles before a full synthetic oil change is ridiculous to say the least.
From what I gather many an engine has met an early demise from the owner being told they can run 25000 miles and so they don't change the filter along the way, they do drive the vehicle as per the severe service cycle ( short runs, cold weather, stop and go traffic ) and then wonder why their engine blew up !. Situations like this have been going on since the 1970's when synthetic oil came out and someone came up with the brain wave of marketing such insanity of the 25000 mile oil change to sell (con ) over priced oil.
Sweet, Impact gun rated filters 💪
I'm fine with ACDelco. They've never given me an issue.
The Amsoil filter is the Synthetic Endurance in a different package..check it out..
The synthetic new filter threads are the bottom warp so easy making it slip when trying to remove it. I end up having to puncture a hole with screw driver to remove it. I wished they coated the thread with those black stuff.
That "goopy glue" is what stops the oil from passing thru the gaps in the filter. I kno it should be obvious but the filter media goes in out, in out all the way around. This is the first filter in a cartridge style that is actually sealed at both ends forcing all of the oil to be filtered. I do wonder if this is the fram titanium rebranded for walmart, I'll figure that out next oil change
Instead of using the Ac Delco PF46 filter, try the PF61 filter on your truck. It's longer and has more filter media and costs the same as the 46. I showed this to my friend who has a Surburban and now the 61 is all he uses. Easier to screw on and off too.
why would you buy a filter recommended by the manufacturer but not follow the recommended oil filter change inervals?
everything looks chintzy to me. compared to another brand i like
I am curious what brand that is ( yes I realize this is an older video ) as I have never ran a fram filter on anything myself, mostly fleetguard, a few baldwin, John Deere, Cat, some Purolator, Donaldson ( air filters ) Of course JD and Cat don't make their filters but get them made to their specs. I just think fram did themselves a disservice by building such cheap filters as their standard filter as all demo filter displays at farm dealerships or elsewhere have a fram filter to show what an extreme low end filter looks like inside.
I always use Wix on my 63 Dart, and my 17 Trax.
Most auto channels use Wix including racers.
Because fram has a history of causing engine failures and being a dishonest company using very shady marketing practices and their products are trash compared to the competition. They used to say they were the best filters even when oil was dissolving the paper and glue they were using for the filters and having like 1/5th the filter surface area of even the cheapest brands on the shelf
Having a filter that will hold up and have good flow after 15, 20, or 25 thousand miles would be a really good idea, but I would still go with changing the oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles. I would not be changing my filter every time. Maybe every 2nd or 3rd oil change. "Why?" you may ask. As the filter starts to get dirty it will filter out smaller and smaller particles. As some of the holes get partially plugged it creates some smaller holes that will be able to trap even smaller pieces. This will actually work kind of like a bypass filtration system. You just need to make sure that you have a filter that won't break down, plus will keep a good flow rate even after it is partially plugged.
You really know your stuff keep up the good work
I asked the same question: Can I just keep the same oil filter if it is rated for 15k miles and just change the oil since I change the oil every 5k. Oil filter company answer is: change the filter at the same time you change the oil.
@@Simple_UA-cam If a person does that, then that just means more sales for that company. If it's good for 15K then there would be no reason to do that, well except to give the oil company more sales.
I have been an AC Delco man when it comes to oil filters I switch to Fram and now I'm using wix if you want to cut up oil filters and show the inside of all of them Dr 3 or 4 different brands it might shock you it did me and this is in my 2000 GMC Yukon XL with 368,000 Mi on it❤
Imo, the OG Ultra XG, the best filter of the bunch. Two ply full synthetic wire backed. Unfortunately, First Brands decided to cheapen the media to a thin synthetic layer backed by blended media for support. Price stayed the same. Endurance a good filter, but some applications downsized and ~$4 more than OG Ultra.
I have on a 25k mile oil filter; I change my engine oil at 8k. Why shouldn’t I leave the oil filter on for another 8k miles?
Super filter great video ❤
What I’m interested in is if using the Fe filter would your oil pressure increase since it says “high-flow” because back then when they use to sell the K&N filters my oil pressure was higher that’s the only reason I used them but I’m still pissed they cost $12.97 like really😒 I get it it’s a royal purple filter at Frams cost but why did they have to get rid of the K&Ns
New filter has way to much glue on the filter material
Not Impressed to be Honest for their highest end Filter.
Look at Whip City Wrencher’s review of the Microgard Select. Superb construction and no sloppy glue.
Why not change the oil every 3,000 - 5,000 miles and the filter at 25,000 miles? Makes less oil filters in the landfill.
The question of the day is do you still have to oil The gasket on this new style of oil filter by fram
I just leave the used oil on the flange from removing the previous filter. Not sure if that’s recommended though 🤔
@@1RoadGarage thanks for your reply on this matter young man 👍😎😁 I've been told that when you get a new one to oil The gasket so it's not going to be a problem with it at the next oil filter change
For some reason, the Synthetic Ultra looks better to me.
what was that thing wrapped around your filter at the end?
I think I'll throw my money at the Amsoil filters that cost at least double the Fram filters, but they also go far beyond the industry standards of other filter companies, including Wix.
Where do you buy them?
@@1RoadGarage You'd have to buy them online, because I haven't actually found them anywhere in retail stores haha.
@@NothingMuchHereToSayFram endurance is an amsoil filter. That was proven recently 😂 and for way cheaper!
This is literally the Amsoil filter which is made by Champion labs. Feel free to search here on UA-cam and watch as they cut them open and are literally identical. I am not saying don't use Amsoil oil or filters because it only saves you $5 bucks as a preferred member, but facts are facts. The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum has nearly toppled the Signature series now. But Fram Endurance is Amsoil EAO/EA15K filters.
@@leahlesley1035 Amsoil may only cost $5 more. But there is also the convenience factor of being able to pick up the Synthetic Endurance at your local Walmart vs having to order online and wait to have it shipped to you.
I was wondering" you don't fill' your filters with oil, before you put em' on ?🤔
Yeah. Did you see how long it was before his oil pressure came up after he started the engine? 😮
did you know that some filters you cant prefill and on Caterpillar in all of their service manuals they say NOT to prefill the oil filter.
@@rickmoulton6337 For the past 50 years I've pre filled my oil filters, and so far......👌👍.
@@sjoeld57or you could follow the instructions or proper installation instead of just mindlessly doing whatever goes on in that hormone driven brain of yours 😂
@@sjoeld57 only takes a few seconds
Hows this compare to titanium
I'm surprised you don't experiment with pulling filters on every system. I'm looking to put a coolant filter in
The Endurance filter flows 3 times as much oil as most other filters while removing even more dirt.
I don’t care what they say. I’m not going anywhere near 25k miles before and oil change. Doesn’t matter I won’t go over 5k and the oil gets changed 👍
Nobody is saying 25k for the oil change. It's saying how long the filter outlasts the oil. The additives in the oil are what breaks down. Oil should always be changed from 3k-5k.
I use this endurance Fram. I changed my oil Supertech 20K miles every 6K miles/3mos and replaced the filter every other oil change (12K miles/6 mos). No issues.
So I’m supposed to change my oil but not the filter?
Wish they would have included the grippy stuff.. That really made it a lot easier to take off AND put on.
The entire outside of the filter has grippy stuff. I installed one on my car two days ago.
I was just reading about the new micro glass technology. It seems to be only in high end filters now.
Cool. I've used the Kirkland full synthetic for the last 20 oil changes (5w-30, 5k mile OCI, OEM filter). My 2006 Matrix has over 213,000k and runs perfect. It's just as good as Mobil 1 IMO. I'm still kicking myself for not buying 5 boxes of the stuff when they were going for $21 (it's now like $37).
Every once in a while it goes on sale for about $30. That’s for 10 quarts! Cheap.
I've been using the full synthetic Rural King branded oil. It seems to do great and is the cheapest oil you can find.
it sucks the price doubled just like that =(
I just found out my oem honda filters ive been using since day one are made by fram.
I'm more interested in the combination of flow and filtration efficiency than capacity. The filter can have a capacity of 35 grams, but if it's restrictive, or letting 25-micron particles through, I'm not going to be a fan.
They ran the test that you would like to see and it is impressive its on tube look it up you will like the results
@@samuelhomer8885, I'm wondering if it's the same filter as the Purolator Boss and Wix XP.
Well...which is better? Fram synthetic endurance, or Purolator Boss?
I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of those. I narrowed my choice to those two filters and decided to go with the Endurance. After doing some research it’s basically an Amsoil filter for half the cost. It filters a little better than the Boss as well
Why is there no bypass valve? Should that be a concern?
Depending on the vehicle model, some have the bypass valve integrated into the filter mount area so it’s not needed inside the filter itself. A Chevrolet 305 would be a good example of this but many modern cars have a similar setup.
Hey anyone notice that the none of the Fram haven a oil bypass valve if the oil filter gets clogged no bypass valve to allow engine to still get oil
Bypass valves depend on intended application. Some newer engines and many older engines (like a SBC) have the bypass valve on the engine itself.
How many microns filtration 20, 25??
I’m gonna ask Scotty about refilling ur oil filter before putting it on. Just saying
What's the thickness of the can
Fram lost my trust years ago.
What happened?
@1RoadGarage at one point, they were using deceptive marketing and making sub-par filters. If you're interested, look into some filter testing done a few years ago, and you will see why I come to not trust them as a company. Thanks for the awesome videos. I hope you have a great day.
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why not compare different fram filters for the same car?
Brand Ranks released a video just like this, it was pretty cool
Who in their right mind is going to use one filter over 25,000 miles.....
I’ll stick with Wix. The whole auto system is designed to kill your motor earlier with these fillers and parts of “convenience ” . I’ll stick with Wix every 3,000 miles. It’s all about the micron percentage.
WIX is great
80 to 90 percent of engine wear occurs at startup. So, flow is just as important as micron size. Pushing for a lower micron size (20 or lower) requires more restrictive medium thus reducing flow..A white blood cell is 25 micron. Your engine, you be the judge.
What about change the oil filter every other oil change sounds great
I seriously doubt any filter will reduce fuel dilution. It would be nice if the marketing would get honest with micron capabilities.
Is that an oil filter magnet on the side of that OF? If so what type is it?
You guys are a very cute couple! Keep the videos coming! Great video.
Wix filters caused hydraulic failures on our cat and John deere excavators and switched to Baldwin filters and problems solved.
Is it cardboard or some kind of fabric?
No matter what I still change my oil at 3 to 5 k
Is this the same as Amsoil?
Yes.
I run K&N and pennzoil in my 03 suburban z71
they should use the new standard for testing like the cybertruck see if it is bulletproof for driving through riots.
CONSULT WITH THE WHIP CITY WRENCHER!!! On another point: Will that one compete the PUROLATOR Boss??? Doubt it.
If i have to choose 1, quality oil or quality filter I would choose quality oil everytime. Even if that meant using a Fram filter..
Good point
Rather use this one than a AC Delco
This endurance is identical to the Amsoil
Interesting video
These filters replaced the K&N filters at my local Walmart.
The sad part about this is that there will be a lot of dumb ppl that r gonna fall for the 20k miles filter change. Don’t do it. You will regret it. I guarantee u some ppl will Change the oil and not the filter.
Mayby it's for people who change oil but only the filter every other time.
The Fram Synthetic Endurance has the same exact components as the Amsoil Filter. They look like both came out from the same factory.
They do, both made by Champion, exactly the same.
What is the problem? Change oil and filter max per 5.000 miles. End of story. These insane extended filters and oils are just to destroy your engine.