LONG ISLAND RAILROAD : Unique and great and then ....
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Howdy folks,
Welcome to this trip report onboard a Long Island Railroad service bound to Oyster Bay! I was so hyped about this trip and rode the C3 coaches and the DE30AC and it was great, until....
Well enjoy and let me know your thoughts in the comments
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RECORDED IN DECEMBER 2020
Railroad company: Long Island Railroad (MTA)
Train type : EMD DE30AC + 3 coaches
From : Jamaica Station to East Williston
Time : 21 min
Price : €4.99 - $6
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Jamaica station is in the borough of Queens, not Brooklyn. The station is the Long Island Railroad"s major interchange between trains from Manhattan and Lon Island. "Change at Jamaica" is one of those phrases that every New Yorker is familiar with. It's almost like "Mind the Gap" in London. In fact, there was a restaurant in Glasgow called Change at Jamaica, sadly long since closed.
Glasgow Scotland?
Is this some sort of Main line joke I'm too Port Washington branch to understand?
@Nicholas Corell haha
There IS a Brooklyn terminal and there IS a lesser used terminal in Long Island City, in western Queens and there IS, of course, Penn Station in Manhattan (in downtown New York City) but the Jamaica Station that all trains originating in points west goes through (except for the Port Washington Branch) is MOST DEFINITELY in Queens and NOT in Brooklyn!!!!!
@Nicholas Corell : You must be a Z Loser then..
The reason why the C3's are such a cramped bi-level coach is because of the tunnel clearances at New York Penn Station. The tunnel clearance is such that ordinary bi-levels (like the bombardier bi-level that you rode on TRE), cannot fit into Penn Station, and thus the C3's had to fit the clearance at Penn Station while still being high-capacity bi-levels.
Kinda reminds me of the Japan's JR East E-233's bi-level green cars which I would see run through Tokyo station. I am assuming due to the tight clearances and narrow gauge design of Japanese rails would result in the rather cramped bi-level design.
A bilevel train was used in Britain in the 30s but it didn't catch on. Had a curious stepped cabin design to fit two levels into the virgin tight British gauge.
They are still technically too big for Penn Station. They can't go through the Hudson River tubes, not sure about the Empire connection. That's why the NJ Transit bi-levels have the angled top corners. They also can't be used in Grand Central Terminal for the same reason(both current Metro North and soon to be LIRR tracks)
@@mambomta would they fit in Penn if there was a bridge over the river instead of a tunnel under it? What about Superliners?
@@visionist7 Superliners don't have a chance of fitting. Not only are they too tall, they're low floor cars which are incompatible with the High-level platforms used on the Northeast corridor.
@Simply Railway, great video. We hope that we will continue to cooperate in the future.
Hello I love watching your videos! Keep up the good work!
I did not expect such cooperation. I’m a big fan of both channels. Anyone who is not, need to subscribe to Railways Explained.
lmao i got told off by a driver on LIRR for filming last year; there's nothing illegal about filming trains
Heck, you can even film the trains in the DPRK. North Korea. It's legal.
Of course Fan Railer was famously given the bird when he filmed the M9 test train. The conductor went out of his way to do that, going as far as opening the window instead of staying inside. Shame these bad apples give the LIRR a bad reputation.
It may be legal, but it is annoying to those who have to work there. How about I film you washing your car in your driveway? If you say something, I'll just be a typical foamer dick and say "iM sTaNdInG oN pUbLiC pRoPeRtY"
@@michlo3393 . . . and we must NOT annoy. Former? It sounds like you still are.
I've had a couple of experiences of railway staff, although the other way around: One was at Antwerpen Centraal where a driver said he'd seen us previously and would love to see the photos we took (which went on Flickr at the time) and a German train driver who was interested in my taking pictures at Hamburg Hbf & was impressed with my knowledge of both German and how their rail system worked. And the Amtrak & Metra staff I encountered in Chicago were lovely; very chatty and curious as to why I was venturing into the suburbs and not staying downtown! Just a shame you got someone who wasn't like the staff I've met. Certainly a very interesting train in this video; thanks for sharing :D
Meanwhile in Singapore it's, strictly speaking, illegal to film/photograph in our MRT (metro/subway) network; some photographers (including one photographing the area outside a station, while standing on its platform) have been accosted by staff previously who've demanded for their identity cards. However I think it's only strictly enforced when staff are walking around in the station (of which there aren't that many) & see you taking photos/videos; it's not uncommon to find online photos taken in our MRT system
@@lzh4950 In the United States the Supreme Court has already ruled that while one is in a public space, there can be NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. D'accord.
@@miata1492 In my country it's more of a nat'l security issue I think, probably after _Jammah Islamiyah_ terrorists were found to have plans to bomb _Yishun_ train station here ~20 yrs ago (perhaps to target USA military personnel who board shuttle buses there to a naval maintenance facility). They were later also found to have plans to fire rockets at Singapore's downtown from neighbouring Indonesia's _Batam_ island, which is only ~20km/12.4mi away
The PATH system that goes between NYC and NJ doesn't allow photography or filming.
Guess that conductor you just encountered was in fact a “Karen”.
Guessing by the "EXCUUSE ME!!!" yeah
“She asked me what I was doing,” and the “She didn’t care, and replied that what I was doing was against the law bla bla bla. She then called her hierarchy for an” Here is an Oopsie for the Conductor: Investigation and possible Legal Action against me” also the “She never apologized to me and grumbled: “What world are we living in now?”” And don’t forget the “Excuse Me” part. All of these examples is meaning that she is an Karen...
Why do these people have jobs like this? She should be scrubbing toilets
@@visionist7 Recall the man of a thousand voices, Mel Blanc? He said on a television show interview many years ago the Bugs Bunny character is basically a New York stinker...
@@TheAdriSun typical LIRR conductors
Jamaica Station is in Queens not Brooklyn
Yes
Nice trip report! I'm sorry that you have to go through what the conductor did. Not everyone is a nice person in NY. You made a couple of minor mistakes with information: 1. Jamaica Station is in Queens, not Brooklyn, and 2. Taking the elevator is an option to get to the platforms but not the only option, as you can walk out of the ticketing office, walk underneath the tracks at street level and you can find your tracks from the various stairwells leading directly up to the platforms. But overall, great trip report!
You can also go to the AirTrain lobby and take the escalators.
the conductors are constantly under threat by bad passengers and being video taped for bad reasons is the norm. 9 out of ten times someone is videoing trying to cause trouble, the job is under threat and they aren't protected by superiors at all. they get punched, spit on, cursed at, drinks thrown at them and recently one conductor was stabbed. very cliche view of NYC without any idea of how things actually are.
As far as I know the EMD DM30AC also supports 3rd rail power. It both diesel powered and 3rd rail which is amazing.
The Electro-diesels are DE30AC, to operate through the East River Tunnel into Penn Station. 400-series numbers but look similar.
The correct designation is DM30 for the 500 series engines
Best trip is the Friday 4:19pm "Cannonball" from Penn Station to Montauk ("The End"). Mostly used be weekenders going to their holiday homes during the summer months.
Hi Simply Railway! As a Long Island native and railfan, I take great pride in the railroad that I classify as my favorite. With that being said, I would like to address a few things mentioned in the video. I will address them in the order mentioned. Firstly, the lack of outlets. While there are outlets on the C3s, there are very few. The reasoning behind this is that these cars were built and commissioned in the fall of '98, where mobile devices were far less common. Secondly, the feeling of being cramped. That is actually by design. The C3 was designed to provide more room for passengers at stations with smaller platforms. Because of those smaller platforms, they have to run smaller trains, but still wanted the capacity. This, we have the C3. And finally, I want to address the conductor. Knowing about her conduct is truly baffling to me, as everyone I have ever interacted with has been professional and courteous. I assure you that encounters like that are rare, though not unheard of. I also highly propose that you take one of the trains out to Montauk as the sights out there are truly stunning, and it will be well worth the fare. Thank you for reviewing the LIRR, and keep making this content.
You can even hear the conductor yell to him “Excuse me” right before he cuts the video
Ha! Well, the "conductor's" attitude is becoming more common . . . unfortunately; and that is why I dislike NYers IN GENERAL. Full disclosure: I am a NYer.
Long time LIRR commuter as well and I was going to say the C3 were from '98 hahaha. Also Yes most conductors are chill people, some or even most of them I'd say would love to be on camera.
@@miata1492 Offense taken
I have never had this kind of problem with any conductors on the LIRR, or even Metro-North. One yard worker in Oyster Bay became suspicious of me once, until I explained my motives for the pictures, and we were pretty cool with one another after that.
Welcome to New York! That was a polite interaction on their scale!
New York, New York, what a horrible place!
@@ronclark9724 have you even been there I’ve gone to New York all my life it’s not a terrible place at all. Just because there’s one annoying conductor doesn’t mean that New York is a terrible place
Not at all actually
My general experience in New York is that people are nicer than average, just very impolite. It only seems mean if you mistake politeness for niceness. I encounter far more dickish people in San Francisco, they're just way more polite about it there. I find the relative lack of passive-aggressiveness in NYC refreshing.
The lirr actually goes pretty far. The montaulk line can take up to 3 hours sometimes!
Welcome to America! I've never been stopped filming on board a train anywhere (although I've been approached on platforms). Another great video.
Seems like LIRR conductors have a problem with being filmed. A few years ago another youtuber called Fan Railer got flipped off by an LIRR conductor while filming.
Here is the video: ua-cam.com/video/amVFWTnltws/v-deo.html
Especially since LIRR put on all social media asking people to get out and capture the new M9 EMU’s
qaz is not a people person any: always putting it's best foot forward. I think the millions of friendly New Yorkers are forced into hiding so that visitors keep moving.
Back in the 60's,the LIRR actually had a Charm School to teach conductors and trailmen, on how to interact with the public! The MTA,definitely should make that type of School mandatory! The JR,in Japan does the same type of thing,and photography is always permitted! That's one reason why there are so many Japanese train videos on UA-cam! Management forgets that the amateurs are there best source of historical photos! One railroad discouraged photography of its trains,and came the time when they wanted a hundredth anniversary book,on the line,there was a paucity of outside photography,and a very thin history resulted,much to the chagrin of the company! You reap,what you sow! Great Video,but you should have ridden to the end of the line,and after Roslyn,you get into the really beautiful area,I know,I lived there for 70 years,and went to the Oyster Fest,in Oyster Bay,and sundry other events! The same goes for the Greenport line(now know as the Ronkonkoma line),and Montauk,as Suffolk County is one of the more overlooked scenic counties in New York! Thank you for your efforts,and Metro-North,has a lot of scenic rides too,as I've also used them in the past! Keep it up,man,it's an education 👏!!! 🚅🚅🚅🚅🚅🚇🚇🚇🚇🚇🚉🚉🚉🚉🚉🦀🦀🦀🦀🦞🦞🦞🦞🦞🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐🦐
Three things are certain in life: death, taxes, and transferring at Jamaica.
Your actually normally not allowed to cross in between cars on LIRR and MTA trains
Ding ding! I'm a tram and I approve this video! Great footage!!
Thats the railroad I grew up on! Awesome to see you review it!
Well, that conductor was just living up to the rest of the worlds stereotypical expectation of what New York City dwellers are really like! On the other hand, Up State New Yorkers that I've run across were really nice and down to Earth people even though they knew I work for an oil company. It sad how the piss poor attitude of one person can have a lasting impression on large groups of people.
They're also allowed guns unlike city dwellers. No wonder the townies are so glum haha
@@visionist7 Incorrect. You can have guns in NYC, just requires a prohibitive amount of paperwork.
Nobody who actually spends any time at all in NYC thinks city people are like that. More likely than not you're going to be completely ignored by anyone and everyone around you in NYC, because everyone has shit to do and somewhere to be and nobody wants to deal with you or your bullshit.
Bravo, Mr. Johnson. By the way, ALL citizens of the US are "allowed" guns. I reside in up-state NY and the paperwork/and other "requirements" here is designed to thwart ANY gun purchase.
As one quite familiar with LIRR, the bi-level coaches used with diesel equipment come in conjoined pairs. One of the two has a toilet, also a driver cab for push-pull operation. About the conductor, this is New York. One cannot expect British civility in the Big Apple! Finally it’s shame you alighted a East Williston. The ride continues to Oyster Bay through some lovely Long Island North Shore scenery.
LIRR daily commuter here, I loved the video, and I have a few minor points 1) C3 are late '90s stock and new rolling stock (te M9s) have plugs, and I'm certain the C3 replacement will as well, BUT there are actually a few secret plugs on correct C3s and M7s that are easy to miss but handy in a pinch. 2) that conductor is definitely not indicative of everyone who works on the railroad; I've had way more good than bad. 3) About half of the LIRR diesels are duel mode (diesel and third rail for Penn Station service), including the one you were on. 3) maybe I am just too often of a commuter, but freight is not a rare sight, ESPECIALLY where you filmed just east of Jamaica; there are always empty cars there. Both the NYA and LIRR move "freight" on the line, and with all the track work it's even more common. What is somewhat rare is seeing NYA actually on the move with GP38s and a longish consist.
"Unique and great and then..." is a quintessential Long Island feeling. You even took my line!
If you ever revisit and do a full commuter experience from Penn Station to a terminus, I'd recommend the Long Beach line; the station's right on the main drag, and you can walk down to the boardwalk & beach in 3-5 minutes. Very popular local destination in the summer.
Sorry about the conductor; Long Islanders just aren't used to people paying much attention to us. (I'd probably be a little curious what you were up to myself, to be honest.)
Out of all the people you had to meet on the railroad you met the one conductor that doesn't belong on it... You deserve better...
Two things I would point out about your conductor, one of which is a response to @qaz is not a people person. First, NYC and the surrounding counties are very compact, so privacy is a luxury, especially filmed. Second, the MTA put a lot of stringent no-media laws in place after 9/11, with the worry that the footage could be used by a terrorist cell to identify and exploit targets. In your case, it sounds like your conductor was a Karen.
It's a public location. End of story. There would be more security cameras within 100feet filming you than this dude on a train. You have more police, more army, bigger secret service (in fact more than one) than Nazi Germany had. I hardly think a dude with a camera on a train is invading anyone's 'luxury’ space.
There is no security benefit from banning people from filming in public. If you ban people from openly filming, then bad actors can easily film secretly with hidden cameras. Unless you intend to search everyone for hidden cameras, then banning filming only hurts honest people.
Banning filming inside secure areas where you can check people for cameras makes sense, but unenforceable bans only serve to harass people who mean no harm.
@@xr6lad Well it's not that simple. Your technically not allowed to film on Port Authority property. That includes PATH trains, the airports some of the bridges and tunnels and the World Trade Center. They can arrest you. They are allowed to do it because they have their own police and are a public authority and don't receive taxpayer money.
@@rrrglynn the MTA isn't a PA agency. In fact, agencies within the PANYNJ don't even like people who work for the MTA. And they don't cooperate very well either.
@@goobthe3rd I know that the MTA isn't part of the PA. I was replying to "It's a public location. End of story." That's not a valid assumption. I'm fully aware you can film on MTA and city property.
Unfortunately the LIRR C3 coaches and DE/DM30ACs were built pre-technology. And after the year 2000 EMD stopped using those parts so the Units can not be updated
Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.
now the LIRR should investigate why their conductor was slacking off and not doing her job........ Great video btw. Waiting for Penn Station-Montauk...
everyone should take the ride out to Montauk at least once, fantastic scenery out on the East End of Long Island
I may be biased (probably because I’ve taken Metro North a lot more) but the LIRR is not too bad. Taking the LIRR during a snowstorm is pretty bad.
Also, filming on the LIRR is perfectly fine. Ignore any train crew that tell you that you’re not allowed. Same thing goes with Metro North and the Subway.
yea really you can't film trains, what is this the Soviet Union or something. The train crew can boot you off though so be nice
@@rochesterjohnny7555 the same can be said in the subway. I was harassed by some train operators saying I couldn't film.
@@rochesterjohnny7555 they can boot you off, but they can't stop you from just taking the next train.
So wonderful to see a segment on my old commuter line. The LIRR was always a different world from the NYC subway system. Perhaps you could do one on the South Shore line. Thanx for sharing!
Jamaica station is in Queens, NY. In fact, the quite interesting thing that could have got you confused is that 1 stop away from Jamaica is in Brooklyn, East New York toward Atlantic terminal
Recording trains (aka railfanning) is perfectly legal. The transit employees who seriously think that railfanning is illegal and attack people for it just blow my mind. These people don’t live in reality 😂
Transit employees in NYC are generally a horrible lot. The union ensures they can never get fired despite their atrocious attitude.
I hope you will do a voiceover as soon as posible, because I miss all the nice video trying to read the subtitles
Great video! I used to commute every day from Roslyn (two stops after East Williston) to New York. Very cool to see the reaction of a "guest" to the Oyster Bay line!
You don’t actually need to use the elevators in Jamaica. If you continue to go south on Sutphin Blvd, after the ticket office, there are stairs leading to every platform. Much quicker. Same for going from the Airtrain to the subway, go down the escalator and under the LIRR tracks and you’ll get to the subway much faster.
Yeah, but climbing the stairs is tiring. I always take the elevators or the escalators on the AirTrain side.
You wanted a New Yorker to apologize??!! Hahahahahahaha. New Yorkers do not apologize old chap.
They do apologize, they just don't apologize when they don't mean it.
Great video as always. Suggestion, try Metro North!! Go to New Haven and get some great pizza!!
or a burger at Louie's Lunch!
New Haven has some nice pizza but anyone who claims it's better than NY pizza or that Frank Pepe's isn't trash is delusional.
I would recommend you take a trip along the Hudson River, Amtrak's Empire service train. It's a great train for traveling into Upstate NY.
Also the ticket prices are also not bad (for amtrak).
Or the Adirondack from Montreal
Commuters On The LIRR know how to sleep on the trip and never miss their stop home lol .. takes a few years to master it but don't need an announcement from the Conductor. Those that know, know lol
It helps if you live near the last stop.
Your case with the conductor is absolutely same with common cases in Indonesia. Here, if you take a photo or videography, the station security will chase you. Then, they'll ask for deleting all you've taken before.
It's okay to ask a permission before, if you're planning to publish it on UA-cam. But in Indonesia, you'll still be chased, even if you take it just for a private collection.
Sorry for ruin your plan to try Indonesian trains, but that's the common issue. So just be careful.
Same in the Philippines and even one time I visited Dar es Salaam, Tanzania... I was there for a transportation conference! Guards armed with semi-automatic weapons came over when I took photos of the bus rapid transit station and watched over me as I deleted the photos from my phone. Even in Boston, I was warned by a train operator that the transit police were being called on me for my 'illegal' photography of trains. 🙃
@@Roboboy To be fair, if you're in the USA, and they get a call : "Someone is shooting the train" , they aren't thinking pictures.
@@nanderv savage
Plan on trying the Michigan high speed line between Chicago and Detroit? Supposed to go over 100 mph in some areas
Many great trips on the LIRR went via Jamaica. Busiest train station in New York after Penn Station and Grand Central
Sorry you had an unpleasant experience with a conductor.
Thanks Thibault.😀😀💚💚
I know this railroad. My mom used to take it in to the city every day before the pandemic hit
my experience on LIRR was definitely more positive, but last time I was in NY was 2016, took the train from Ronkonkoma to Penn station and the train was busy but clean. That trip was on a M7. That style of seat is used on pretty much all silverliner style trains like the M3s and M7s and even the Hyundai-Rotem Silverliner 5s used by SEPTA and RTD in Denver, pitch is a little snug but you figure they need to cram a lot of people on there during rush hours and most trips on those trains are typically less than 30 minutes..
That conductor is what Bostonians would call “a New Yorker” (implying they are rude and arrogant).
Thats hilarious considering Bostonians or "Massholes" have the same connotation here. Wonder why both cities kinda think of each other negatively lol.
@@helloworldstein Geographic rivalry I guess. Although honestly, I've noticed New York to be objectively more "authoritarian" in the sense of more asshole cops and more people with a little bit of power (especially when it's trivial in the larger hierarchy, like a train conductor) that go extra steps to figuratively show their cock around with power. I feel Bostonians who are cops (somewhat), transit officers and conductors, etc,, despite definitely being rude and cold, don't have the same hard-on for abusing power that their New York counterparts do. And honestly, I bet a lot of New Yorkers themselves hate the entitled, authoritarian, hard-on nature of those with trivial power in their city. E.g., New York cops, even cops of color, will relentlessly harass Asian immigrants who don't speak English for some minor driving infraction to the point of physical violence and anger because they want that power rush (this actually happened in southern Brooklyn btw, I saw it), whereas Boston cops will just sit by lazily for minor driving infractions, or perhaps apathetically and contemptfully pull someone over. New York has this authoritarian, power-trip vibe about it that I don't feel in Boston. Perhaps I'm wrong or haven't seen enough examples, but Thibault's experience here is very, very much in line with New York's authoritarian hard-on (and no, I don't say that out of some whacko libertarianism either).
I hope you consider the Metro North trip from Grand Central Terminal to Poughkeepsie on the Hudson Line. Beautiful views of the Hudson River and you can stop in Beacon where I live!
Amazing video! When COVID has passed, have you thought of taking VIA Rail’s Canadian service? It goes all the way from Toronto to Vancouver over 4 days using classic 1950s Budd equipment.
Of course...
Lol pitiful
Just one correction... (5m21s mark) All current LIRR trains (including the old M1's coming back into service) have a power outlet (more than one actually). Instead of just a few at the door seats (or at the door seats and mid car), the M9's have ones at every seat.
I think you meant to say "Every train *seat* should have a power outlet"?
Regardless, sadly, no, the M9's are not replacing all of the older rolling stock.
Anyway, cool vid!
LIRR Bi Level coaches built by Kawasaki Rail Car, Inc., not by Bombardier. 7:24 time mark of the video clearly shows Kawasaki tag left side of the door.
Great video man. Glad you enjoyed the ride. Some conductors can be very ignorant though & other conductors are super nice.
The conductor elicited very poor customer service. She probably won’t last very long at her job, or any job, with that type of behavior. Glad her supervisor was involved. You should write a letter informing the powers to be about your negative experience and how several thousand of your viewers got to see LIRR’s poor customer service. I bet you will DEFINITELY get a formal written apology then! Love your videos! Don’t be discouraged. Keep them coming!
6:27 in hong kong, the Tung Chung line and Airport Express trains can go up to 135kmh with a top speed of 140kmh
Believe me, the transit in NYC is way cheaper that taxis and Uber/Lyft. You could end up paying twice, or even three times as much to ride a taxi instead of commuter rail.
Should add the patented Jeff Marshal Window Elbow Test.TM to your many seat checks! lol
Nice video! Fun fact....those locomotives were built by EMD at the Super Steel Plant in Scotia, New York. The Plant is long gone.
Wow that conductor was a real Karan
I forgot to mention that I think all of your videos are really excellent. You review trains in the USA for what they are. It's not Europe or Asia, but it is getting better.
Jamaica also has connections to the NYC subway and the JFK air train.
Jamaica is in QUEENS, not Brooklyn. The C3 Coaches are designed that way to fit into the East River Tunnels and the confines of the Penn Station tracks and platforms. The LIRR tried bi-level designs as far back as the late 1930's and 1940's. The idea is to get people from here to there quickly and as comfortably as possible given the normal passenger load.
Thank you for this video! I like it very much. Thumbs up and Like1274
I have taken the LIRR to Montauk, LOVE IT.
Only 30% of electrified railways in the UK are third rail, therefore the majority 70% are supplied by overhead electricity.
The C3 rail cars are built by Kawasaki Rail Car not Bombardier Transportation. It's Jamaica, Queens not Brooklyn.
Another great report! Sounds like the typical East Coast hospitality haha.
Let's not involve the entire East Coast: perhaps the typical NYCity hospitality.
Let's not involve the entire East Coast: perhaps the typical NYCity hospitality.
btw that CONDUCTOR IS WRONG. As long as you you don't use a tripods you can film. I had to point that out to them all the time
Oh god… I ride this branch often, 3-5 times a week and I recognized this conductor just by her voice. I guess she only works on the Oyster Bay Branch, but she by far my least favorite conductor to get. She is always impatient and annoying. She’ll often ask for my ticket after she had already taken it, demand I get up and move all my stuff forward a car to exit even through there’s still 10 minutes to the last stop, and will pick fights over tiny rules (can’t have my backpack on the seat beside me cause other passengers may want to sit, meanwhile the train is 90% empty).
You got Unlucky dude.
I might be one of the few people who doesn't like the rebuilt Jamaica station. The old station was easy to get to the tracks. From the street level, you walk up to the point where you could not only walk to the platforms but get a snack or go to a nice sized newsstand and buy papers magazines or other goodies. As for disabled people, they could have had the elevators go to the platform levels.
I’ve always felt the Long Island Railroad was/is the most expensive train system for passengers per mile in the US. However, I have no stats to back my claim
Jamaica Station is actually in Queens.
Why didn't you go all the way to Oyster Bay? You are in E Williston just off the main line?
Welcome to the United States. :) Seriously, when I visited Germany back in 2004, the train crew didn't give a darn when I filmed my ride and the interior on board an ICE using a Hi-8 camcorder as long as I didn't bother anybody. This conductor who confronted you, IMO, was just acting entirely personally and not within her job duties as long as you weren't bothering anybody when filming this.
LOVELY
this is the only railroad I'm familiar with (other than Atlanta's commuter rail system, MARTA), so this is so weird to watch this as a trip review. I remember going to the Hicksville station with my parents to ride into their jobs in the City on "Take Your Daughter to Work Day" back when I was a kid.
MARTA is a the equivalent of a subway.
@@AVeryRandomPerson it's kind of a hybrid. The outer stations are not in the city of Atlanta. It's similar in that sense to WMATA or BART.
Great Video btw 💪
Did you know the line is electric to east Williston? They run an electric train the NYC that starts in East Williston in the morning Rush
I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. :)
I’m really sorry about your experience with the rude conductor or the mta, in major cities like New York, a lot of people are paranoid someone will attack transit systems or the city again. It’s really just paranoia
It's not even that. Some transit employees just power trip and have a superiority complex.
Apparently, Long Island Railroad was unfriendly Railroad.
For me NJ Transit was friendly Railroad because I took NJT 1610 to Hoboken Terminal but stopping at Wood-Ridge
The C3s were built by Kawasaki, not Bombardier
There IS a Brooklyn terminal and there IS a lesser used terminal in Long Island City, in western Queens and there IS, of course, Penn Station in Manhattan (in downtown New York City) but the Jamaica Station that all trains originating in points west goes through (except for the Port Washington Branch) is MOST DEFINITELY in Queens and NOT in Brooklyn!!!!!
The Long Island Railroad does not begin at Jamaica Station. And Jamaica is NOT in Brooklyn.
Lovely video but so sad about the experience with that grumpy conductor. As you say she should have at least apologised for her attitude. Great job from you though as always and glad you won the day ☺️
1) The newer M9’s have outlets at almost every seat. However, they can’t run on the diesel branches (Oyster Bay, Montauk, Greenport, Port Jefferson east of Huntington)
2) A year ago, I was taking LIRR pics at Penn when I got harassed by the cops. Welcome to the club.
3) The Oyster Bay branch is the red headed stepchild of the LIRR. Outside of rush hour, trains run every 2 hours. The best branch in terms of service is the Babylon.
You should do an njt review. The trains have similar rolling stock and run at high speeds like lirr. Hoboken rail terminal and some of the njt stations are very cool as well.
The C3s and M9s were built by kawisaki
I live in nyc. Was born and raised here even though I’m still young. Jamaica is in Queens. Also I use the subway soon might start use commuter rail as I might move out to Long Island how does it work because I’m use to the same train on a line coming every few minutes. Like 2min on some lines. 4min on other so how does it work
Very new review, I like the third rail it’s not a thing we have in north west England
A little bit more information (in the words of John Cleese - not to put too fine a point on it . . .) - the locomotive pulling your train, No. 506, is one of the LIRR's dual-mode engines (see Wikipedia's DM30AC article - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_DE30AC_and_DM30AC). It likely ran using third-rail power to around Fordham St. beyond East Williston, then using its diesel prime mover onward to Oyster Bay. These trains *can* run all the way into Penn Station from non-electrified territory, though not many actually do. Nice job, and sorry about that jerk conductor. I hope that was a one-off for her . . .
hi Jamaica station is Queens ,not Brooklyn.
Haha that conductor is probably not supposed to sit on the passenger seats and was afraid she got caught out by your camera... Pathetic =)
@Simply Railway:Good video as always!! I'm glad your filming in my neck of the woods!! Sorry that you have to encounter the conductor on the LIRR🙄🙄🙄 Like many said here some still operate under 9/11 mentality That people filming are somewhat helping terrorists. It's absurd. And some just want to annoy people with cameras. I see a lot of rail fans at filming on the Subway and even on commuter rail like the LIRR and Metro North. I work for the Subway as a train operator. I do see a lot of you guys everyday. I am not going to interfere or bother you while you're filming but I do have a word of warning do not interfere with the employees jobs and don't enter places where you're not supposed to be!! Other than that enjoy your time here in New York. I think you want to be coming back from more videos from here if you want!! Stay safe and hope to see you around!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😀😀😀
In care no one has mentioned it Jamaica station is in Queens, not Brooklyn
your treatment on board is typical, although I did hold my breath while watching your filming the Jamaica hub, because I was hounded for filming their facility, which had you refused then they could've arrested you to prosecute..even Montreal too..that whole tidier-world spiel doesn't fly well over here either ;)
Some conductors don't get it; this one sleeping car attendant appeared for 1 second in my shot and told me it was illegal to film him despite being in a public area; great video though
Well that conductor is just how New Yorkers are. RIP
Officially the MTA does not ban videotaping on LIRR or Metro-North property but there is history of conductors and MTA Police telling people to stop filming. I'm not sure why they still tell people to stop when officially it is permitted….
Jamaica Station is in Jamaica Queens not Brooklyn. That would be the LIRR Atlantic Av Terminal @ Flatbush Av Bklyn
Usually the LIRR staff will allow you to film, there are only a few like what you encountered. There is one guy who makes LIRR videos all the time and one particular conductor always argues with him and tells him to stop filming lol
It's depend on the person for sure.
You should make a complaint against that jobsworth conducter to LIRR. Maybe that will make her change her tune. 🙄
It won't...
@@necroslair very true.
The commuter railroads serving the New York Metropolitan area are functional but neither comfortable nor efficient. You should do a video on taking them between New York City and Philadelphia. It's a real bargain in price when compared to Amtrak but of course takes longer and involves a change of trains in Trenton NJ. I bought a round trip senior fare from New Jersey Transit in NYC, and changed to SEPTA in Trenton, no problem. But on the way back the SEPTA conductor out of Philadelphia made a big deal about my not having what they considered valid ID for a senior fare, as if the price difference of a few dollars was going to break the railroad! She 'let it go' this time. I researched it and pre COVID you could get a senior fare ID at the transit center in Philadelphia on Market St, no matter what state you lived in. That seems to have been suspended for now. My point to all of this is that Ms. Conductor really enjoyed wielding her power. I guess I should take it as a compliment that I don't look 65 years old!
Metro North, especially the New Haven Line, is quite comfortable and efficient. Not sure what you are talking about. The train is always faster than driving. The seats on the M7 and M8 stock are perfectly decent for trips up to two hours.