DIY: How to Mic Your Amp for Stellar Tone
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2014
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www.premierguitar.com In this studio tutorial, Nashville session guitarist and producer Bryan Clark reveals a handful of proven mic techniques. Hear various configurations of dynamic, large diaphragm, and ribbon mics recorded through a studio console, and compare the tones between different mic types and positions. Explore four essential setups, plus several more advanced options.
Bonus! Hear cool guitars and amps in action (Stratocaster, Telecaster, Les Paul, Collings I-35, 2x10 Fender Vibrolux, 1x12 Ampeg, 1x12 Vox AC15, Marshall JCM800 and 4x10 Marshall cab).
if you want to hear the difference instantly you can use this:
2:07 & 3:00
4:20 & 4:43
6:16 & 6:44
Thanks bud.
I just want want to point out that off axis means something different. The way he moved the microphone is OFF CENTER not off axis. Off axis means that you move the microphone at an angle to the axis of the speaker dust cap (the bump in the middle of the speaker). That way of micing can get a little bit more from a single mic setup, because the mic picks up both the off axis sounds and the sounds directly in front of the mic. My favorite setup is an SM57 with its head pointing at the place where the dust cap meets the cone at a 45 degree angle. This tames the highs because it picks them up from the side, but it's still not as muddy as the center of the cone mantle. Hope this clears things up.
same thought here
Yeah. Off-Axis (for the laymen) would mean that you are not pointing the mic directly at the sound source but the mic is taking a glancing blow, so to speak and picking up more of the room.
45 degrees pointing towards the dust cap or cone?
Yes you are right WTF?
correct.
strat + fender + ribbon was awesome
+deadmoldable Hell yeah!! I was thinking the same thing!!
+deadmoldable hell yeah! i was just going to say that too lol i gotta get me something like that....makes so much more sense instead of jamming a little mic into the speakers grill....seems like you can just eq your amp as usual and plop the ribbon in front...when you use sm57 like mics i feel like i always have to eq again after placement and i hate that!
Thought the same then I checked the price of the Ribbon mic... $1500!
Did the same, lol. The mic is more expensive then the guitar! But wow that sounds buttery.
Sounds like John Mayer's tone
This is the coolest video I've ever seen on how to mic your amp. I'm just starting now recording my VOX AC30 for my next CD and this is holy grail for me. THANKS SO MUCH!!
I have done sound for our portable church and I really like your setup and the way you present information. You truly are a master at your craft which is so technical and informative.
Wow this was a GREAT tutorial! Thank you Bryan. This was so well produced and edited. I really liked getting answers to all the questions I have had for years (not owning most of these mics, nor having the room to do experiments). Moreover, how awesome to HEAR what so many books or online discussions merely talk about.
Bryan you also are a very engaging instructor. Your variety of amps, guitars and mics was the icing on the cake. For a
Quite possibly the best Premier Guitar video ever......great playing, great info, and awesome quality! Thanks
I love the sound of Strat + Fender amp + Ribbon = Tone for days
6:45 is just glorious. Astounding how such a simple setup can sound so full and complete. Close mic setups never sound realistic to me. I love hearing a little room (real room, not plugin reverb) in the guitar tracks, and the figure 8 pattern on the ribbon captures a bit of that without needing a second mic. Definitely my desert island recording setup.
Yeah it sounds good, but there's a spring reverb coming from the amp, which can be confusing. He should've played without reverb at all... THEN, you could actually hear the room sound.
A brilliant video, thanks Bryan. One thing that wasn't mentioned was the distancing of the condenser options (unless I missed it). Cheers, great stuff.
Great microphone and setup demonstrations. I especially loved the sound when you moved the mics back about 3 feet with the strat. Thanks for your professional advice.
Great video! Thanks for showing a variety of mics with a variety of amps and guitars.
Great tutorial! I really enjoy how you described which sounds will be pick up in a certain way for each mic setup. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Hands down best video out there for micing guitars !!! Thank man!!!
Why would you change the amp and guitar when you change mics? That takes away all of the consistency of the example
Exactly.
Just showing examples so you can figure out what you want . I doubt that you could really hear the true sound without being in the room.
When you get a little more experience, you'll also learn that one mike style/placement does not fit all. What sounds good on cleans often sounds harsh on over driven / distortion tones. Since you might be interested in recording more than one thing, this video presented multiple options that all sounded good for their specific application. The only other option would have been to give the comprehensive version where some sounded like shit and others were amazing.
I agree! But I think he was pairing certain mics going with certain guitars and styles
Brian Knickerbocker isn’t that a complete contradiction of the point of this video 🤣🤣
Great information for a intermediate like myself, truly greatful
The ribbon with the figure 8 picking up the mic and room is such an amazing sound. Gonna have to look into this setup
6:15 Wow! what a great sound! JRS -34 ribbon with a strat sounds incredible!!
That room sounds really good. The Cloud JRS-34 sounds absolutely beautiful.
The best video I've seen on micing guitar cabs yet to he honest.
Killer tips. Thank you. I really like how JRS-34 Ribbon sounds - very natural.
Probably would have helped to have turned off the reverb of the Fender when you were trying to show the room sound.
The most useful and practical explanation! Thank you !
Awesome sounds! Great tutorial!
Excellent tutorial on the things i needed to refresh as well as learn. Thank you
can you do a video on how to afford all that awesome gear please?
epic vid, cool to see how some legendary guitar tones are achieved
Best explanation so far in all the internet! Thank you so much! Got a new subscriber :-)
Super useful and clear tips. Thanks a lot Brian!
Great demo! My 'takeaway' is that there are a ton of possibilities, and that it pays to experiment and have some fun - I like that it's not like a 'training video' as most of the comments seems to want, but shows the potential, with a few ideas/tips/pointers
thanks for sharing your knowledge man! great tips that I'll surely use
Amazing thanks Mann!!! The fender one sounds beautiful
Wow, very invaluable information, thanks Bryan! 🎸 I've been interested in how to help enhance the tone/sound of my guitars with mics. Don't own any mics yet, but definitely learning a lot. So, can't wait to get one and experiment! 🎸
Thanks for a great overview! Very helpful for the home studio recorder!
So helpful man!! Great video thank you!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
The silver face with the Ribbon in front of it sounded amazing, even far away like you had it!
love all the gear featured in the video
Great vid - one thing that wasn't mentioned was the sound of the room he was working in. That is more important than any mic choice you could make. In a lesser room these room sounds would be far less impressive. having said that - I think my fav sound was the ribbon 2 feet in front of the Vibrolux. I would be very happy to get a sound that good. For the record - my room doesn't sound like that!
pleasant tones with the mics further from the cone. been concentrating on close techniques and sort of felt i've not been achieving what i want to hear. inspired me to get those mics further away from the cone and experiment - cheers
That strat sounds so amazing.
thats some very nice information, thank you!
Great video!
Thank you.
Awesome video! You covered a lot of ground without overwhelming with info. Although, I do believe the folks below are correct in regards to "off axis" and "off center" terminology.
GREAT video! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the advice! Video well done!
excellent demonstration
That ribbon mic sounds amazing!
Best video i'v seen on this topic.
Great video!
Thank you for a great video. You don't babble and what you do say is very informative - supplemented with great examples.
Great video. Thanks
Bands take note! This is how you do it... thanks for sharing this Bryan, keep up the good work.
awesome video! thanks!!
I like the Vox and the Tele
6:34 the holy light shines into his studio
Great vid. Do more please!
Nice playing, Bryan!
Thanks. I like your last piece of advice.
Very helpful, thanks! I've always been curious about the microphone preamps everyone uses. that seems to matter as well.
This video really explains these techniques with considerable ease, thanks! I've been meaning to find out about micing. Also, can you explain phasing in more detail? I've heard my friends talking about it, but it's all a blur.
Thanks, it was very nice explaind.
Really helpful! Ribbon seems like the way I'm guna go.
After watching this video, I do not know why people use other mic other than a Ribbon mic. Better than the sound of the mic on the amp, that makes every guitar (of the same type) sound the same. Thanks for the video. Now I know how I want to record.
That's a great tutorial, thanks.
very clear! thanks!
Thanks Bryan!
Great vid.
Thanks, great tips🎸🎸🎸
Should have used the same guitar and riff for every mic example
love it, thank you
Wow! Sweet tone, man! Thanks for the advice! Our Covetous Providence
Good vid, thanks!
very informative and clarifying ..
Fantastic!!
Great tutorial and examples!
How far away from the grille cloth did you pleace the SM57? Also, in the 2nd SM57 clip, did you place the mic at the mid-cone position, between the dust cap and the side edge of the speaker? All the tones sounded sweet, but the 2nd SM57 was my personal favorite.
good work fellah,,,,
great video
How about another vid demonstrating different miking techniques on recording vocals? :)
I'd love to hear the j12 with the les paul cranked. Love those amps! Thanks!
Have one also. Quite underrated.
Nice tones
Thank you for the video, the JRS sounds great. Would you recommend it for horns? (Sax,Trumpet)
This is a nice primer for micing cabs... As others have mentioned the mic is not off-axis.
Guitar and amp consistency would have yielded more information but man that ribbon setup sounded nice
Could you please do a video explaining the basic concept of setting gain , input , and volume levels when recording clean and distortion guitar tracks ? I just can't get good tracks without what sounds like digital distortion. Like something between the guitar and interface input is being overdriven with too high a signal. I record with medium output guitar pickups , MOTU 24/96 interface , Sure 57 , 15 watt tube amp , Vintage 30 speaker 1x12 closed speaker cab , high quality cables throughout, Sonar X3 , and medium quality monitors. Hope you have some suggestions for me. Thanks and have a great weekend. : )
room mic in omni is a great idea. gonna try that in my living room.
Interesting tip with the flashlight ... thx!
Anything + JCM800= 🔥
I ran into the problem that my mic stand was to high to reach my cabinet. never thought about flipping the mic upside down. thanks for that idea
nice tritone substitutions on the blues at the end
Hi Bryan, thanks for this info. My Fender Mustang III has a 3.5 mm headphone jack. instead of putting a mic in front of the amp, what If I unplug that xlr cable from the mic, then use a Stereo 3.5mm Male Headphone to XLR Male converter, plugged to the mustang's headphone jack and then plug the other end to the mic cable, plugged directly to the mixers mic input. Would this work? and how would be the sound setting in the mixer, Treble, Bass, Gain, Mids? Thanks.
Strat+Vibrolux+Ribbon = Goooooooooood!!
I have a question about recording with camcorders. I find when I hear when amps are at certain sound levels and they are emulated versus non-emulated sound and sounds artificial, why does it sound muddy is it cause of the camcorder methods sounding cheap or is it because people should use mics to emulate the sound, which works better?
I can't change the phase. Any suggestions. Using Shure 58A beta dealio with an Audio Technica condenser AT2035 on a Univox 60's 1x12...very clean...just boost and compressor pedal with a Strat...I only recorded this quick lead with it but it sounded shockingly good. Neck pickup...who knows? Great work on video, way cool descriptions. perfectly presented. thanks
oh. no computer access, recording on Porta studio. I know about old school changing pin on cable...i guess I'll try that...the lead sounded so out of phase, i actually liked it. Not sure if I'd like the whole LP like that but, it blew my head off.
They sell this mic holder that holds two mics together. Supposed to keep them in phase being same distance.
Sounds great. What mic pres do you use?
The Strat with the Fender amp and the ribbon mic sounds awsome! But the Marshall with the SM57 could sound better. I have heard much better sounding miked Mashalls. Probably it's the 4x10 that sounds bad?
Dude, If you are able to hear 22 khz,
tell me what planet you're from!
I was very surprised to find out that the majority of people don’t
Is the Reverb on that Fender on with the "near room" mic position?
He made it look so easy! I'm running a strat through a blues junior, mic'd with an AKG D5 and into a Focusrite 2i2 interface. When recorded it doesn't sound warm, full or anything like what I hear from my amp, plus loads of single coil pickup noise :/
Ben Schiavi Try moving the mic away from the centre. Record a little bit, move the mic again, record then listen to the two and see what the difference makes.
So, What volume should the amp be or to better word it, how loud? like, talking volume, yelling volume, volume that makes the surroundings vibrate, the volume of a drum kit? and then what should the microphone gain be according to that ?
I want that strat tone at 6:17. Are they special pickups? What amp? Great playing!
PJ Jackson A Fender Silverface Vibrolux Reverb is the amp, as far as settings, I just hear rolled off treble and low presence (If your amp has that) and guitarwise, I don't hear any special pickups, (I don't know much about single coil and fender amps, I'm a metal player) just that he's almost certainly using a neck pickup with the tone knob rolled a bit back, and as you can see his mic is placed kinda far away from the amp.