Totally agree mate. Im a cockney but the way many people spoke in that era and earlier and even cockneys was lovely. When some, mostly younger people speak these days i dont even know what they are talking. Even 10 year old kids these days are all ''street'' nonsense. Although ive heard some older people talk like it and its ridiculous. 30 years ago and beyond you spoke like the area you come from. Scouser, brummie, cockney, west country etc etc. As i keep saying, i dont know what is happening to this country and how its happened so quick as well. Everything and all history is getting lost. Regional accents are sadly getting less and less.
Great quality programme from1999, the days when adverts came on at about 15 to 20 min intervals, before digital came along and adverts ruined viewing by coming on after 5 mins, then at 10 min intervals destroying the pleasure of commercial TV viewing completely. 10.20 UK
Good point. Also, today, every documentary has the end credits and music - just when you are reflecting on what you''ve just enjoyed watching - instantly ruined by the channel's presenter going on about future programmes on the channel.
There's worse crimes in this day and people get alot less they stole paper that's it nowadays its computers and stuff I feel sorry for the gaurd pesos get less
No criminal master minds, just ordinary criminals, who each carried out different crimes.. They all balls of steel and gave no fux. Im unsure on them being accused of being the cause of Jim mills death, not nice what they did to him, maybe he got saucy and needed a clump to make him behave,
Ill never get tired watching anything about this train robbery. Im from South Africa, my. Late husband from the UK and he told me about this, fascinating!
Different breed of criminal. When Ronnie Biggs had his stroke and wanted to return to the UK He phoned the yard and asked to speak to slipper. He was told slipper had retired, he explained he wanted to return to the UK and wanted slipper to meet him at the airport. He told them slipper had tried to extradite him from Brazil many times over the years and he thought it was only fair he should finally get his man.
In those days yes they were criminal and certainly sometimes violent but they had strong morals and lived by a code. Definitely a more gentleman villain than the kids of today.
Jailing the robbers in 1964, Mr Justice Edmund Davies told them that "to deal with this case leniently would be a positively evil thing" and duly sent most of them down for 30 years. Yet the previous year the same judge had reduced the sentence on appeal of one Charles Connelly, who had been involved in a robbery in which a van driver in Mitcham, Surrey, was shot dead. Cutting his term from 15 to 10 years, Davies said: "The sentence was excessive." - The Guardian. Listening to them all complaining about the time they got, never thought twice about stealing a great deal of money and using up police time and a great deal of the public funds. This was a different age and there was some justice then but for a murderer to get away with 10 years was ridiculous then and is now.
Back around the time my dad was working at Bedford power station.. He had an accident and had to be driven to the Luton and Dunstable hospital then on home to Kingsbury.. The tea boy on the job was the one who had to take him.. Turned out it was Roy James of the great train robbery gang.. My mum spoke to him thought he was a lovely bloke.. You never know who you'd be working with 😁
I went to my aunts funeral a few years back, to my great surprise, there was Bruce Reynolds , paying his respects? Apparently my Aunt Rene had hidden Bruce for weeks and got him out of the country, after the robbery. He never forgot that kindness and Inside the cover of a book he wrote, is a picture of her.
@@kimmason9935 Yeah Fred was offered a part on the robbery but he turned it down because the year before in 1962. his firm robbed £250.000. in Gold bars.
@@royharrison Not that im bothered if you believe me my surname is Radford and Norman was my Uncle mentioned here books.google.co.uk/books?id=aTetDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT315&lpg=PT315&dq=norman+radford+charlie+wilson&source=bl&ots=vgEwVH5-JT&sig=ACfU3U1k05HbtX0d222q82n3gNl7IVU-_A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN35fG3brvAhVjt3EKHYOBDFcQ6AEwDXoECA8QAw#v=onepage&q=norman%20radford%20charlie%20wilson&f=false
Completely believable to me, I walked through Streatham Cemetry at the bottom of Garrett Lane a few years ago to see if I could find Charlie’s grave, found it almost immediately, sadly it was a little overgrown, I took a few minutes to tidy it up, for no other reason than I had always had a romantic opinion of the Great Train Robbery visiting Bridego Bridge (fair walk from Cheddington station) a couple of years ago.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Class A research project. Special thanks to the train robbers & flying squad for making this documentary possible!!! However I do condemn the thug who physically assaulted engineer mills.
Today in 2023 i would imagine everybody who took part in this film will be long gone and if anything you learn from the film is this ,if ever you commit a crime large or small do so on your own and never tell a soul .
Ronnie Biggs decided to return to the UK on a jet plane escorted by the police and was arrested in-flight.The jet plane landed at RAF Northolt and he was escorted to Belmarsh prison to serve the rest of the sentence.He suffered a stroke while in prison and he got released on compassionate grounds.
I remember some saying he'll serve about 3 or 4 and It'll probably be In an open prison, I said he'll serve more than that ,the way he made the UK Prison system a laugh for over 30 years Though I didn't think he'd be put In Belmarsh a Max security prison, and I think he served 8 ,But they were never going to be soft on him, he became a superstar and while he was never considered a big time robber he just was lucky or unlucky depending on your view to get a place on the train, over the next several decades many big time gangsters like Freddie Foreman would visit him, and Fred told him not to go home and that they wont be soft on you because you mugged off the Govt but I'd say Ronnie didn't want to die In Brazil, I used to say he'll return home if he's sick and he's going to die he'll come home and die in the UK
Very interesting. thanks for posting this ! Not sure about the ads. David Giniola's hair and Felix the cat. Having watched this, it does go some way to separate truth from fiction after having watched the BBC's two part drama The Great Train Robbery which was broadcast last month:
I remember this like it was only yesterday! It happened just one month before my 13th birthday and of course everyone was talking about it......I mean £2.5 million was a massive sum back then. It was interesting to hear from that Detective that even they thought the sentences extreme. Most people I knew all said the same. It was mainly because the money had been taken from the Post Office so a crime against 'the state' so the judge was determined to use them to send a message out to the proles.....don't mess with the state otherwise you'll get sent down for a very long time. It's ok if your name is Johnson though and you went to Eton!
@@basicdesign1 definitely wouldn’t sound like me I’m not from London. Just not sure why he thinks they would not sound the same? Very strange thing to say
That's what one calls...Pure spite. Reissuing every stolen bank note at a greater cost than the money stolen. Only a Prime minister could come up with that mindless idea. Poor, Harold Wilson...He eventually, and completely, went of his trolley.
That was a helluva lot of money when wages were about 5 a week if you were lucky 'in 1962 money was not the strong point of your life 'just imagine 2 million you could buy anything you wanted airplane Ferrari s anything 'there were hardly any millionaires in 1962 '40 pence would run your car all week you really can't imagine what that amount of money ment 'you would have been classed as super rich 'and maybe one of the most wealthy people in Britain 'whereas a couple of million means nothing today 'your house is likely worth a quarter of a million
Incidentally they never nabbed the old duffer who was supposed to drive the train. I have a strong suspicion they knew who he was but they didn't want to nab him. They didn't want to nab him because he was a looked upon by Joe Public as a bumbling retiree who somehow deserved to get away with it. He did, but are you trying to tell me the government/establishment didn't know who he was? I bet you they did but it was politically convenient to let him slip the net. So as not to upset Joe Public.
The bridge where the robbery Took place is now called Train robbers bridge How sick is that It’s an absolute insult to the Railwaymen of that generation The locomotive class 40 locomotive was D326 Re number 40126 It became at unlucky locomotive It was involved in the crash At coppenhall junction on Boxing Day 1962 while Working the 1.30 (13.30) Midday Scott from Glasgow to Euston in collided with the 4.45 (16.45) Liverpool lime street to Birmingham New Street killing 18 passengers It was also involved in accidents In 1964 And 1965 At Birmingham new street The second man of a train Was electrocuted will trying To repair a damaged windscreen wiper It also collided with an engineers train at monument lane after the brakes failed
The thing I noticed about the GTR and other big robberies is the robbery seems to be the simple part, but the aftermath is when it all goes wrong, 20 years later the security express robbery went smooth but the suspects then fly to Spain and have a picture taken which eventually brought them down.
A very sad Story in the end but it will allways be fascinating to the public during what could go down as the Best Decade of most of our life’s, The swinging 60’s 😊
Saddest aspect to the story was the robbers being inside and their (formerly trusted) friends & family are using the loot as an inexhaustible bag of petty cash. That's gonna scrape your nads if you're doing porridge!
@@paulgabolinscy2502 No, septic is the word Ì wanted to use and your need to correct me on what you percieve as a spelling mistake only enforces my comment on lost subtleties.
The train driver, 58-year-old Jack Mills, was bashed by the gang after they had entered the locomotive's cab from both sides and he tried to fight them off.
Warning- do not watch 'The Great Train Robbery The History Channel' Within minutes you realise it is factually incorrect. Maybe for this reason, comments are disabled on that video.
I said at the time the guard was used and not as bad as they made out. Main consensus by the general public was why haven't they got a box of matches in Scotland the robbers made bloody fools of the govt of the day. Marty Australia
Years ago at a mate’s wedding in Stockport we met by chance Ronnie Biggs daughter and mad Frankie frazer I think they were doing some book deal anyway the sent a bottle of champagne to the bride n groom what a chance meeting
Ronnie Biggs had 3 sons with his first wife Charmaine ( sadly one was killed in a car accident here in Australia as a child ) and another son from his second marriage . No daughter m8 .
It seems the movie 'Buster' (1988) with Phil Collins starring got it very right. The details are spot on.....even the ol' man lighting his pipe! See the movie and also the making of 'Buster'.
@@thevillaaston7811 Even there I think they had it correct. He got a nasty hit on the head (which apparently was not supposed to happen). It shows the driver holding his head as he is shoved into the driver's seat. This after the old coot realizes he knows nothing of modern diesel engines. If not for the guy who squeals to Scotland Yard, they might have pulled this long shot off. I am impressed with both the director's concern for detail and Collins mostly spot-on acting. (not fond of his Mexican dinner scene, but it certainly highlight the 'fish out of water' aspect of the Buster character)
@@rk41gator When it came to the violence inflicted on the train driver, suddenly, the camera was outside of the locomotive cab. However, the film makers portray the people involved, and what they did, it was still a crime.
Blaggers from Southie in Boston ( The Town) left a safe house 🏠 with the dishwasher full forgetting to press "start" ,all doing life no Jamroll.Similar parallel to the farm not getting cleaned up. Be physcho about the small stuff if you're a villain.
Great train robbers and those like krays etc were given sentences that were harsh. Compared to crooks etc like we see today. If crimes that they did were done today they would get lighter sentences
@TFArtemis Excuse but it's like calling the Soviet Union Russia. Not long ago a guy from the Midlands corrected me when I called him English enstead of British.
Mills had two days in hospital for a 6 million pounds robbery and they got 30 years - nowadays they stab you for a watch and don't even go to prison or even kill you for nothing and say they did not mean to and get out after 4 or 5 years max (helped by tricky lawyers) - its happening every week in the UK - interesting progress our justice and legal system has made. The irony is generally speaking people have far more now than they did back then, so what's the reason? It can only be tolerance to crime and making excuse for the criminals. I know thats not a fashionable thing to say these days. I guess its just one of those paradox - the more you give they they will want, it reminds me of that old saying "never give anyone anything, they will only ever hate you for it" - I guess thats why I like these old school criminals at least they were go-getters and took responsibility for their crimes.
Good stuff stable, love the Great Train Robbery, been to the site, and Leatherslade Farm how do you upload videos to here though, I can only upload a 15 segment though I heard to join up meant longer but it takes a long time to load. Is there a fast upload programme on the net the compresses files? Thanks.
Loading takes no longer than down-loading. The load time depends on the size of the file. So a 10 minute size film may load in 120 seconds on middle grade equipment.
My grandad once told me he found bundles off notes and dug a hole then whent back and the railway had remodenised the tracks he said there was over £9.000 he said there was loads off other people found staches them days you keep your mouth shut
It was about robbery, thieving and cheating. Any one can be am underworld sneak thief as it just requires brawn but it takes intelligence to be honest and to know that honest guts are far better than bad guts.
Because the police would be inquiring for witnesses in relation to an arson so any vehicles seen on the roads around the area at the time would be investigated meaning they could've potentially been nicked for something way smaller which would've - by simple logic - exposed the larger crime once they realised those caught in connection with a petty house fire all happened to be career criminals
Never understood that one myself. Last man out the door should have doused the gaff and put a match to it. Most of them would have been rounded up anyway but placing them there would have been a lot harder to prove in a court of law. Mind you, a few of them were well and truly fitted up so the ol bill might have found a way round it anyway. But I could never have put my trust in a dodgy brief cleaning up after me. No way.
When mum and dad were on holiday in London I asked mum if she wanted to buy flowers off one of the Great Train Robbers. Oh yes she said. Off we went to the thames.
Did robbers ever even imagine what problems of hiding bank notes of 2.5 tons (or 3-4 m2)will bring them? If they really split that in 18 quotients it means every guy had to hide 140 kilos or some 200 litres cash somewhere. Not really an easy job to do it very short warning period. In fact they should have had other trusted organization for handle that money hiding and later laundering. In retrospect they really were amateurs in this tricky business.
200 litres is not too much of a problem as long as the Police are not looking at it at close proximity. Clearly it is more than a person can stash in his pockets or in two suit cases. But six suit cases should hold the lot. So it could fit in the boot or a car (as long as the Police are not looking at it at close proximity).
Always nice to have a famous name in the family, wish I had an aunt which was a famous 1950's singer or something like that... Unfortunately, all average Joe's and Mary's here...
Notoriety as the form of fame is not the sweet peach some gangsters may try to mask themselves behind. A notorious mobster may delude him/herself with delusions of fame resulting from fame due to millions of people talking about him/her. But the talk is not of good. It is considered every one needs to know about them and so: Their evil deeds become known or the villains become famous. But the type of fame is notorious. Such fame as notorious fame is not the sort of fame some criminals actually want hung about their necks as a yoke with which they have to try to live. IE: A Bank robber may not really want every one wanting to know where he is every moment of every day. Nor does he want his face in the front page of the daily news or the Police photographing him for their mug shot album. So notorious fame is not really a friendly fame desired by thieves and crocks. So having no famous notorious arch criminals in the family closest is not a bad thing.
I am always amazed at how good the spoken English was in that era.
Totally agree mate. Im a cockney but the way many people spoke in that era and earlier and even cockneys was lovely. When some, mostly younger people speak these days i dont even know what they are talking. Even 10 year old kids these days are all ''street'' nonsense. Although ive heard some older people talk like it and its ridiculous.
30 years ago and beyond you spoke like the area you come from. Scouser, brummie, cockney, west country etc etc. As i keep saying, i dont know what is happening to this country and how its happened so quick as well. Everything and all history is getting lost. Regional accents are sadly getting less and less.
Aesop said "We hang the petty thrives, but appoint the great ones to high office".
Great quality programme from1999, the days when adverts came on at about 15 to 20 min intervals, before digital came along and adverts ruined viewing by coming on after 5 mins, then at 10 min intervals destroying the pleasure of commercial TV viewing completely. 10.20 UK
Ya wot? There were less ads in 1970! The 90s were for wimps!
Good point. Also, today, every documentary has the end credits and music - just when you are reflecting on what you''ve just enjoyed watching - instantly ruined by the channel's presenter going on about future programmes on the channel.
There's worse crimes in this day and people get alot less they stole paper that's it nowadays its computers and stuff I feel sorry for the gaurd pesos get less
No criminal master minds, just ordinary criminals, who each carried out different crimes.. They all balls of steel and gave no fux. Im unsure on them being accused of being the cause of Jim mills death, not nice what they did to him, maybe he got saucy and needed a clump to make him behave,
Ill never get tired watching anything about this train robbery. Im from South Africa, my. Late husband from the UK and he told me about this, fascinating!
Even the robbers of yesteryear had more education and class than the celebs these days. As a society we have regressed beyond all recognition.
fair comment.
Never a truer word spoken Jack. Take care mate.
Agreed
That’s complete and utter BS. Stop trying to spread shit for thumbs up.
yep
Different breed of criminal. When Ronnie Biggs had his stroke and wanted to return to the UK He phoned the yard and asked to speak to slipper. He was told slipper had retired, he explained he wanted to return to the UK and wanted slipper to meet him at the airport. He told them slipper had tried to extradite him from Brazil many times over the years and he thought it was only fair he should finally get his man.
Definitely oldskool crims indeed
The Era wen a handshake and a man's word meant something ❤❤❤I was born too l8. rare thing now trust a man's promise with a handshake nowadays
@ChopperHilter even though they were criminals, they had respect, that the police were just doing their job. Not like nowadays shooting them.
@@malcolmchadwick4047ye the armed robber was top of the tree back then. this was before the class's A drug dealers took there place
In those days yes they were criminal and certainly sometimes violent but they had strong morals and lived by a code. Definitely a more gentleman villain than the kids of today.
Jailing the robbers in 1964, Mr Justice Edmund Davies told them that "to deal with this case leniently would be a positively evil thing" and duly sent most of them down for 30 years. Yet the previous year the same judge had reduced the sentence on appeal of one Charles Connelly, who had been involved in a robbery in which a van driver in Mitcham, Surrey, was shot dead. Cutting his term from 15 to 10 years, Davies said: "The sentence was excessive." - The Guardian. Listening to them all complaining about the time they got, never thought twice about stealing a great deal of money and using up police time and a great deal of the public funds. This was a different age and there was some justice then but for a murderer to get away with 10 years was ridiculous then and is now.
Thanks for uploading this I missed the first half of it when it aired back in 99 my life can move on now :-)
Lol better late than never Haha
Back around the time my dad was working at Bedford power station.. He had an accident and had to be driven to the Luton and Dunstable hospital then on home to Kingsbury.. The tea boy on the job was the one who had to take him.. Turned out it was Roy James of the great train robbery gang.. My mum spoke to him thought he was a lovely bloke.. You never know who you'd be working with 😁
"At 1:50 we will say 'August 1963' but the fashions were a bit dull then, so we will show some clips from the LATE 60s, nobody will notice!"
Such an interesting program and the narrator has got such a good voice!
I'm not sure exactly what it is about his voice, but everything he touches turns to magic.
Just been told the voice is that of a bloke called Nigel Anthony. He always adds a wonderful atmosphere to documentaries.
@@jupitersailing I thought it could be the actor Nigel Anthony???
I went to my aunts funeral a few years back, to my great surprise, there was Bruce Reynolds , paying his respects? Apparently my Aunt Rene had hidden Bruce for weeks and got him out of the country, after the robbery. He never forgot that kindness and Inside the cover of a book he wrote, is a picture of her.
She will have hidden him for freddie foreman then I expect as it was freddie that put him to ground and arranged passage out by all accounts
Wasn't Freddie foreman offered a part on the robbery? I'm sure I heard he knocked it back due to other jobs
Foreman admits to most things, anything to raise a few Bob.
Tell me her name so I can get her nicked as an accomplice to the crime after the fact.
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@@kimmason9935 Yeah Fred was offered a part on the robbery but he turned it down because the year before in 1962. his firm robbed £250.000. in Gold bars.
I must stress, and I cannot stress this strongly enough, that the robbery involved no actual loss of train or trains.
I must stress, and I cannot stress this strongly enough, that your post does not involve the use of your one and only brain cell.
@@spamskanal It's from a famous Peter Cook comic sketch. ua-cam.com/video/MUrhdIxTJSA/v-deo.html
spamskanal Dumbo
@@spamskanal dickwad
@@spamskanal prick
Charlie wilson was my dads first cousin, i remember him coming round in a V8 rover when i was young.
Bull
Course he was lol
@@royharrison Not that im bothered if you believe me my surname is Radford and Norman was my Uncle mentioned here books.google.co.uk/books?id=aTetDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT315&lpg=PT315&dq=norman+radford+charlie+wilson&source=bl&ots=vgEwVH5-JT&sig=ACfU3U1k05HbtX0d222q82n3gNl7IVU-_A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN35fG3brvAhVjt3EKHYOBDFcQ6AEwDXoECA8QAw#v=onepage&q=norman%20radford%20charlie%20wilson&f=false
I believe you as it would be a very random thing to claim if it were not true!
Completely believable to me, I walked through Streatham Cemetry at the bottom of Garrett Lane a few years ago to see if I could find Charlie’s grave, found it almost immediately, sadly it was a little overgrown, I took a few minutes to tidy it up, for no other reason than I had always had a romantic opinion of the Great Train Robbery visiting Bridego Bridge (fair walk from Cheddington station) a couple of years ago.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Class A research project. Special thanks to the train robbers & flying squad for making this documentary possible!!! However I do condemn the thug who physically assaulted engineer mills.
Gordon Goody looks like the sort of well dressed chap you would meet at a cricket club , Lol :)
Nice ruse.
Today in 2023 i would imagine everybody who took part in this film will be long gone and if anything you learn from the film is this ,if ever you commit a crime large or small do so on your own and never tell a soul .
Nice to see a famous German TV mini series about the robbery (at 3:45 and later) in this fine documentary. It's legendary in Germany!
@MyMediaArchive Das Grosse Train Robbery, probably..........
Die Gentlemen bitten zur Kasse❤❤❤
Thank you for this great video!
Being that I am on the other side of the pond , I really enjoyed the commercial breaks as well as the program.
i remember most of them from 21 years ago being british :)
Jack Mills the Driver was hurt very badly and was never the same again. Violent men.
Thanks. That was well worth watching 👍
really very interesting! thanks for the upload !
RIP John Mills...never recovered....
R dids
hear hear , and david whitby too
Exaggeration
I wish I was walking past that telephone box at that time
and needed to make a quick phone call 😂 🇬🇧
A great documentary and the adverts are fun to watch to...
Ronnie Biggs decided to return to the UK on a jet plane escorted by the police and was arrested in-flight.The jet plane landed at RAF Northolt and he was escorted to Belmarsh prison to serve the rest of the sentence.He suffered a stroke while in prison and he got released on compassionate grounds.
I remember some saying he'll serve about 3 or 4 and It'll probably be In an open prison, I said he'll serve more than that ,the way he made the UK Prison system a laugh for over 30 years Though I didn't think he'd be put In Belmarsh a Max security prison, and I think he served 8 ,But they were never going to be soft on him, he became a superstar and while he was never considered a big time robber he just was lucky or unlucky depending on your view to get a place on the train, over the next several decades many big time gangsters like Freddie Foreman would visit him, and Fred told him not to go home and that they wont be soft on you because you mugged off the Govt but I'd say Ronnie didn't want to die In Brazil, I used to say he'll return home if he's sick and he's going to die he'll come home and die in the UK
`They aprecciate our silence, and thats good enough for me` spoken by a true gentleman.
Yes I loved that share class
Very interesting. thanks for posting this ! Not sure about the ads. David Giniola's hair and Felix the cat. Having watched this, it does go some way to separate truth from fiction after having watched the BBC's two part drama The Great Train Robbery which was broadcast last month:
Nine more years later I can tell you that I enjoyed the ads too - real nostalgia. I was ten years old at the time of the robbery and remember it well.
What an absolute superb robbery .what a total fuck up afterwards
. . . forgot abt. David Ginola advertising his 'L'Oreal' perfect curly locks lol, thanks for the adverts ! ;-D
I wish Dan hadn't dared, if the above is all that's floating through the seeming vacuum of his 'mind'.
My brothers wifes second cousins sister doesn't know anyone who took part in the robbery either.
My brothers wifes second cousins sister does !
I remember this like it was only yesterday! It happened just one month before my 13th birthday and of course everyone was talking about it......I mean £2.5 million was a massive sum back then. It was interesting to hear from that Detective that even they thought the sentences extreme. Most people I knew all said the same. It was mainly because the money had been taken from the Post Office so a crime against 'the state' so the judge was determined to use them to send a message out to the proles.....don't mess with the state otherwise you'll get sent down for a very long time. It's ok if your name is Johnson though and you went to Eton!
Is anyone surprised that the police fitted a man up for a crime he didn't commit.
It would be worse than havin' the filth breathin' down your Gregory over a bit of fenced Tom!!!!
'Mickey Keyole? Naw, he was a good bloke, ol' Mickey.' Those two villans are clearly liying.
How well spoken the people were at 5.16 if you were to do the same again nowadays they would not sound so elegant!
No? So if you did the same to someone from the exact same location, they wouldn’t sound the same? Why is this?
@@jackgower3606 because they would sound like you do and not like he does.
@@basicdesign1 definitely wouldn’t sound like me I’m not from London. Just not sure why he thinks they would not sound the same? Very strange thing to say
That's a hell of a v neck on Gordons jumper
A cricket jumper I believe
That's what one calls...Pure spite. Reissuing every stolen bank note at a greater cost than the money stolen. Only a Prime minister could come up with that mindless idea. Poor, Harold Wilson...He eventually, and completely, went of his trolley.
I hope when the cops found the "Anglia" they realised it was actually a Prefect.
A really true crime of the century. To bad they all didn't live happily ever after.
Loved this story a good watch
That was a helluva lot of money when wages were about 5 a week if you were lucky 'in 1962 money was not the strong point of your life 'just imagine 2 million you could buy anything you wanted airplane Ferrari s anything 'there were hardly any millionaires in 1962 '40 pence would run your car all week you really can't imagine what that amount of money ment 'you would have been classed as super rich 'and maybe one of the most wealthy people in Britain 'whereas a couple of million means nothing today 'your house is likely worth a quarter of a million
True
Did they ever find out who the Royal Mail Employee was who TOLD them which train to target
Incidentally they never nabbed the old duffer who was supposed to drive the train. I have a strong suspicion they knew who he was but they didn't want to nab him. They didn't want to nab him because he was a looked upon by Joe Public as a bumbling retiree who somehow deserved to get away with it. He did, but are you trying to tell me the government/establishment didn't know who he was? I bet you they did but it was politically convenient to let him slip the net. So as not to upset Joe Public.
The bridge where the robbery
Took place is now called
Train robbers bridge
How sick is that
It’s an absolute insult to the
Railwaymen of that generation
The locomotive class 40 locomotive was D326
Re number 40126
It became at unlucky locomotive
It was involved in the crash
At coppenhall junction on
Boxing Day 1962 while
Working the 1.30 (13.30)
Midday Scott from Glasgow to
Euston in collided with the
4.45 (16.45) Liverpool lime street to Birmingham New Street killing 18 passengers
It was also involved in accidents
In 1964 And 1965
At Birmingham new street
The second man of a train
Was electrocuted will trying
To repair a damaged windscreen wiper
It also collided with an engineers train at monument lane after the brakes failed
Great Documentary!
The thing I noticed about the GTR and other big robberies is the robbery seems to be the simple part, but the aftermath is when it all goes wrong, 20 years later the security express robbery went smooth but the suspects then fly to Spain and have a picture taken which eventually brought them down.
A very sad Story in the end but it will allways be fascinating to the public during what could go down as the Best Decade of most of our life’s, The swinging 60’s 😊
The advert with Burning spears " do you remember the days of slavery"
Saddest aspect to the story was the robbers being inside and their (formerly trusted) friends & family are using the loot as an inexhaustible bag of petty cash. That's gonna scrape your nads if you're doing porridge!
It would be worse than havin' the filth breathin' down your Gregory over a bit of fenced Tom!!!!
The Train due to arrive at Platform 1. .Has been Delayed ,Due to Leafs on the line
hahaha Nice one Pat. I bet the septics that have commented here have missed the subtlety in that.
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@@paulgabolinscy2502 No, septic is the word Ì wanted to use and your need to correct me on what you percieve as a spelling mistake only enforces my comment on lost subtleties.
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Tea leaf = theif? lol
Police fitting people up? You're having a giraffe!
Where are the rest of this series episodes
The train driver, 58-year-old Jack Mills, was bashed by the gang after they had entered the locomotive's cab from both sides and he tried to fight them off.
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R.I.P Bruce Richard Reynolds, a true legend, gne but never forgotten xx
He was a bit of a dick actually. Breaking into people's houses and tieing them up, stealing their dosh and making a right mess.
Wow, im more interested in these old adverts. Nostalgia or what!
Slipper of the yard was a tough man, those flying squad boys would give you a few digs when they lifted you
Fascinating stuff
Just put it back on too watch adverts ..nowt on telly .
Warning- do not watch 'The Great Train Robbery The History Channel' Within minutes you realise it is factually incorrect. Maybe for this reason, comments are disabled on that video.
Are you saying that Ancient Aliens weren't responsible for the robbery?
@@Its-uu8ht no, only twats like you ..
@@wayneandrews9298 Whooosh!
Never got the one that got away..
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I said at the time the guard was used and not as bad as they made out. Main consensus by the general public was why haven't they got a box of matches in Scotland the robbers made bloody fools of the govt of the day. Marty Australia
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Yes there are no free lunches unless
Your an MP a different kind of robber
Years ago at a mate’s wedding in Stockport we met by chance Ronnie Biggs daughter and mad Frankie frazer I think they were doing some book deal anyway the sent a bottle of champagne to the bride n groom what a chance meeting
Ronnie Biggs had 3 sons with his first wife Charmaine ( sadly one was killed in a car accident here in Australia as a child ) and another son from his second marriage . No daughter m8 .
not biggs daughter it was wisbys .
wow such a high density reply...
It seems the movie 'Buster' (1988) with Phil Collins starring got it very right. The details are spot on.....even the ol' man lighting his pipe! See the movie and also the making of 'Buster'.
Spot on.....apart from the attack on train driver.
@@thevillaaston7811 Even there I think they had it correct. He got a nasty hit on the head (which apparently was not supposed to happen). It shows the driver holding his head as he is shoved into the driver's seat. This after the old coot realizes he knows nothing of modern diesel engines. If not for the guy who squeals to Scotland Yard, they might have pulled this long shot off. I am impressed with both the director's concern for detail and Collins mostly spot-on acting. (not fond of his Mexican dinner scene, but it certainly highlight the 'fish out of water' aspect of the Buster character)
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When it came to the violence inflicted on the train driver, suddenly, the camera was outside of the locomotive cab.
However, the film makers portray the people involved, and what they did, it was still a crime.
@@thevillaaston7811 Robbing trains is a crime, but at least no one was killed.
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R.I.P buster edwards ❤️
Slipper looks like an old Martin Kemp.
out off all of dem ,,bruce renolds had a boss life ,
The biggest crime was the plastic surgeon that made Ronnie Biggs look like... Ronnie Biggs
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At the time the farm was 27 miles from the bridge. What it's moved since?
The bridge got a new job and relocated?
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They found a short cut 😂
Blaggers from Southie in Boston ( The Town) left a safe house 🏠 with the dishwasher full forgetting to press "start" ,all doing life no Jamroll.Similar parallel to the farm not getting cleaned up.
Be physcho about the small stuff if you're a villain.
At 27:35 Liverpool tea chest to the left of monopoly game at leatherslade Farm.
Within 12 hours Scotland yard knew the names of all 12 robbers!
Great train robbers and those like krays etc were given sentences that were harsh. Compared to crooks etc like we see today. If crimes that they did were done today they would get lighter sentences
@TFArtemis Excuse but it's like calling the Soviet Union Russia. Not long ago a guy from the Midlands corrected me when I called him English enstead of British.
Mills had two days in hospital for a 6 million pounds robbery and they got 30 years - nowadays they stab you for a watch and don't even go to prison or even kill you for nothing and say they did not mean to and get out after 4 or 5 years max (helped by tricky lawyers) - its happening every week in the UK - interesting progress our justice and legal system has made. The irony is generally speaking people have far more now than they did back then, so what's the reason? It can only be tolerance to crime and making excuse for the criminals. I know thats not a fashionable thing to say these days. I guess its just one of those paradox - the more you give they they will want, it reminds me of that old saying "never give anyone anything, they will only ever hate you for it" - I guess thats why I like these old school criminals at least they were go-getters and took responsibility for their crimes.
Good stuff stable, love the Great Train Robbery, been to the site, and Leatherslade Farm how do you upload videos to here though, I can only upload a 15 segment though I heard to join up meant longer but it takes a long time to load. Is there a fast upload programme on the net the compresses files? Thanks.
Loading takes no longer than down-loading. The load time depends on the size of the file. So a 10 minute size film may load in 120 seconds on middle grade equipment.
20:47…. Badly hurt….
22:06 couldn’t of been that hurt then if he was able to operate the train…
My grandad once told me he found bundles off notes and dug a hole then whent back and the railway had remodenised the tracks he said there was over £9.000 he said there was loads off other people found staches them days you keep your mouth shut
Whatever happened to David Boal, the son of William Boal?
They’d have problems today with precise railway timetables and strikes etc!
The first guy caught was the informant.
it wasnt about brains,it was about guts
It was about robbery, thieving and cheating. Any one can be am underworld sneak thief as it just requires brawn but it takes intelligence to be honest and to know that honest guts are far better than bad guts.
that fella who gets interviewed hes one cool man that ,,,also the female is fit laa
Does crime pay, according to the criminals houses the answere is a big yes.
Been to the bridge where it happened
Me too in 2017 it has a strange atmosphere to it. You notice that ?
Why didn't they just simply put a match to the house as they left.
Because the police would be inquiring for witnesses in relation to an arson so any vehicles seen on the roads around the area at the time would be investigated meaning they could've potentially been nicked for something way smaller which would've - by simple logic - exposed the larger crime once they realised those caught in connection with a petty house fire all happened to be career criminals
Never understood that one myself. Last man out the door should have doused the gaff and put a match to it. Most of them would have been rounded up anyway but placing them there would have been a lot harder to prove in a court of law. Mind you, a few of them were well and truly fitted up so the ol bill might have found a way round it anyway. But I could never have put my trust in a dodgy brief cleaning up after me. No way.
Someone who worked at Brian Fields legal firm was supposed to burn it down but didn't do it and was never heard from again.
When mum and dad were on holiday in London I asked mum if she wanted to buy flowers off one of the Great Train Robbers. Oh yes she said. Off we went to the thames.
I bet they even talked like gangsters too.. Myeh coppers. You'll never get me alive, see
paint goes dry ?yeah maybe after 5 years ! goody and boles were definetly fitted up ! and the poppy another era before the 50s!
These guys were well trained,they stayed on track, but unfortuneatly there was no light at the end of the tunnel !!
Nice one lol 😂
They were just no good at reading the signals coming from the police
With a 30 year stretch a piece , there wasn't much light at the end of the tunnel .
Did robbers ever even imagine what problems of hiding bank notes of 2.5 tons (or 3-4 m2)will bring them? If they really split that in 18 quotients it means every guy had to hide 140 kilos or some 200 litres cash somewhere. Not really an easy job to do it very short warning period. In fact they should have had other trusted organization for handle that money hiding and later laundering. In retrospect they really were amateurs in this tricky business.
200 litres is not too much of a problem as long as the Police are not looking at it at close proximity. Clearly it is more than a person can stash in his pockets or in two suit cases. But six suit cases should hold the lot. So it could fit in the boot or a car (as long as the Police are not looking at it at close proximity).
The owner of Leatherslade Farm has applied for permission to demolish the farmhouse and build a 'red brick' house there in its place. 2022.
Always nice to have a famous name in the family, wish I had an aunt which was a famous 1950's singer or something like that... Unfortunately, all average Joe's and Mary's here...
Notoriety as the form of fame is not the sweet peach some gangsters may try to mask themselves behind. A notorious mobster may delude him/herself with delusions of fame resulting from fame due to millions of people talking about him/her. But the talk is not of good. It is considered every one needs to know about them and so: Their evil deeds become known or the villains become famous. But the type of fame is notorious. Such fame as notorious fame is not the sort of fame some criminals actually want hung about their necks as a yoke with which they have to try to live. IE: A Bank robber may not really want every one wanting to know where he is every moment of every day. Nor does he want his face in the front page of the daily news or the Police photographing him for their mug shot album. So notorious fame is not really a friendly fame desired by thieves and crocks. So having no famous notorious arch criminals in the family closest is not a bad thing.
Would have liked to see this but can't hear it ???? Why do you do that??? Can always turn it down can't turn it up .... By ...
It was doomed to failer..from the start..
I agree. From very start. Far from "masterplan".