Looks like this lens is currently backordered everywhere BUT if you're interested in purchasing one you should place an order ASAP to get your spot in line for this amazing lens!
What makes these new lenses so "magical" is the shortened flange distance. It may seem like a small shift, but when it comes to optics it's huge. All of that space occupied by a DSLR mirror or the negative space created by an adapter is gone, and the back element is literally millimeters from the sensor. It's a big deal. It means much better sharpness, much better color, just much better optical quality in general… I personally am obsessed with my RF 70-200 2.8 which I upgraded to from the third generation EF version which came out not long ago itself. It's such a wild improvement I'm blown away. Even though that lens is a 2.8 and doesn't let in as much light, it has just as much of the "magic" you speak of. I had a 28-70 2.0 backordered from Canon that I'll never get now, and I'm still on the fence about getting it. I'm actually far more focused on studio lighting and am very strongly considering the 90MP R5s that will be announced soon. But it really was a tossup for me which I'll get next, the RF 85 1.2 DS or the 28-70 2.0… Finally decided it will be this lens… I'm mostly thrilled about you talking about it being super fast focusing. This was one thing I was a little questionable about since it's SO massive. The RF 70-200 2.8 is SO fast focusing it blows my mind. I'm so relieved to hear this one is too!
There was literally one of these left in Australia after Canon burned their factory down, and I was so so lucky to purchase it yesterday. I'm super stoked.
@@MyNameIsKaitlyn - The Canon R5 and R6 bodies have In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) so this makes up for the lens not having image stabilization. I wasn't too worried about the lack of image stabilization because I had been using the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L lens which also has no image stabilization. This new 28-70mm f/2L lens is one stop faster which means my shutter speed could be one stop faster at the same ISO, so even on a body without IBIS (EOS R or EOS RP) this lens is still very functional.
Your videos make so much more sense because many of us do not care in real life about corner sharpness at each and every aperture!! It’s about how it feels, what’s the look and character of the lens, does it make sense financially, is it practical… etc
This lens plus lockdown and 3 young boys and the R5 is godsend - i was able to document all the fun moments with them and create memories that last a lifetime!
You convinced me enough to buy the R6 with the 28-70mm and I can attest that it’s the perfect setup for me. Took a while to get used to the weight but the image quality and convenience outweigh its flaws in my book. Thanks katelyn
I shot my first 2 day job with this lens this week and I didn't even pull my 35 or 85 out of the bag for the entire 2 days. That's something I would have never thought possible. The 28-70 is a gem of a lens and will be part of my kit now for sometime I imagine. I think I'll still keep a 35 and 85 but I reckon all the heavy lifting will be done with the 28-70
Lol. I remember watching your R6 review when you said you didn't "need" an RF lens any time soon. I was like "mmhmm. Wait until she tries the 28-70." Good on you for giving it a try. As attached as you are to your EF85 1.2, just wait until you try the RF version. Just in case you're looking for another business expense.
I probably don't "need" any of my RF lenses but I wanted to give them a shot for education purposes! I own the RF version of the 50 and 85! I just need to test them out so I can make a review!
This lens has lived on my R5 since I got it. It’s massively flexible in events and around the house and it has a certain “character” the 24-70 F2.8 (EF or RF) just doesn’t have. Combined with the technical advantages like you mentioned like autofocus, this lens is the gold standard zoom for Canon still photography i feel. Heavy and costly but very happy with mine too!!
I feel this. I sold my EF 85, 100, 135, and 200 (all L series) to get the RF 70-200. When I was on a 5Diii I felt like I really needed the faster apertures both for focusing confidence and to keep that ISO low, but since I’ve had an R6 I feel like 2.8 is pleeeeenty. Although sometimes I miss having an overkill shallow DOF.
Welcome to the 28-70 club - I have an R6 and that lens lives on my camera body (might as well be welded on) since it is so flexible, fast and sharp. Plus one lens costs less, weighs less, and takes less space in the bag than the lenses it displaces. I would sell my 24, 35, 50 and 85 EF L’s if I didn’t still need them for my cinema bodies.
We did the same thing some 3-4 decades ago, when film photographers started shifting towards zoom lenses. That carried forward to the DSLR era and made the lens trinity a popular choice. But history repeats itself and driven by the bokeh trend, primes becomes fashionable again.
Thanks for the review! I agree all the way. I got the 28-70 2.0L along with my R6 since I had the feel that by definition this lens would set a new standard. And it does indeed. It's worth every penny. I would even say it's downright affordable, since we are talking an industry first that's easily on par with a Zeiss lens optically, and those guys would charge way over 4000 bucks for a piece of kit like this (and people wouldn't even complain). So I actually applaud Canon for making something like this accessible to pretty much any professional shooter. Combined with the R6, it does indeed negate the need for prime lenses (I was a HUGE prime lens shooter, with a 17-40 4.0 L being the only zoom lens in my bag). And that's mainly because of two things: 1) It's super sharp wide open and has pretty much zero CA, whereas on pretty much all prime lenses, even the super premium ones, you would need to stop down a bit anyways to get an image that is really sharp, if not for optical performance, then for the fact that your depth if field get's so super shallow. So as you said, you'd have to need a very specific environment to make a 1.4 work, like detail shots. In my experience, the 28-70 is so good at 2.0, that - apart from test charts in a lab setting, it is pretty much impossible to distiguish the wide open shots from the stopped down ones. 2) The R5 and even more so the R6 are super good in low light, so you don't need an 1.4 aperture to get decent shots in low light conditions. You literally can get away with setting your auto ISO range at 100-10000 and if you are shooting JPEG, you'll be having a hard time even identifying the higher ISO shots by eye. So yes, it's heavy and it costs money, but boy it delivers. And yes, it only works on the RF mount, but that very fact is part of the key to the awsome performance. The much larger mount allows for a significantly closer placement of lens/sensor, hence giving you a much better image. Concerning travel, this lens might even make your bag considerably lighter, since you can leave a lot of other lenses at home. Add to that, that you might not need to buy those lenses in the first place, and there is your price argument gone as well. And in hectic/eratic conditions and dusty/wet environments, NOT having to change lenses while having that "prime" look can be invaluable. Oh, and it's also amazing for video! Currently, I am looking at the (also amazing) RF 70-200 2.8L and I'd like to have a super wide angle lens like the RF 15-35 2.8L. Writing this, with the RF zooms being as good as they are, I don't see myself going back to prime lenses for the foreseeable future. Enough bla bla, I agree, it is a fantastic lens!
I recently bought this lens and I don't really like it. I am going back to my dual camera setup of 85mm and 35mm. I just didn't feel like this lens is worth 3000$ 28mm is a lackluster focal length and 70mm just doesn't cut it for me. The only 2 focal length that works for me with in this lens is the 35mm and the 50mm but at f2 that is equivalent to their cheap nify 50 1.8 and 35mm 1.8. I wanted to like this lens but will be selling it soon. I also wanted to add that I love your videos keep up the great work!!
Really like your videos but when you show photos in these videos it would he helpful to know what settings you were using to shoot some of these gorgeous photos
When I bought my EOS R5 I wasn’t soo much interested in RF lenses due to how heavy they are, until when I accidentally bought RF 85mm f1.2 after checking My images I was left mouth opened. I sold my 16-35 f2.8, 24-70mm f2.8 and I bought the 28-70mm f2 I can tell you I haven’t stopped taking photos since then. Love this lens
I'm in the process of getting an R6 and now that you mentioned this lens I never thought of renting one and given that a try first. Thank you and God bless 🙏
I got the RF 28-70mm f/2L lens a few weeks ago and *I LOVE IT* on my EOS R5 bodies. I debated between this lens and the RF 85mm f/1.2L but I already have the RF 85mm f/2 IS, so the versatility of this lens made more sense to me for now. I'll eventually get the RF 85mm f/1.2L but not until after getting the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm lens, because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens. Glad to see this video because I didn't expect to see you shooting with a zoom, nor would I ever see you actually enjoy shooting with a zoom. But as you say, this lens is definitely magical. I'm really glad I got it and even though it's super expensive, it's very well worth it and I'd do it all over again.
Haha I didn't think I would enjoy it! That has been one of the surprises of the youtube world! We had so many people telling us to try it! And we love it!
Thank u so much for this info Katelyn! I’m in the process of updating my kit and you’ve helped me consider this lens over purchasing new 35 and 50mm prime lenses. I haven’t used a zoom lens for so long! Thank u heaps! Fi
Great Video. I already have the RF 50 f1.2 and RF 85 f1.2, but your video makes me wonder if I should still get the RF 28-70 f2.0? For event, especially indoor with limited space? Will be good to hear your view.
I've done a lot of indoor events at banquet halls and conference rooms where tables made the 24-70 a little challenging. I'm considering the 15-35 f/2.8 to use in those situations.
I had a strong attachment to my 35mm 1.4 mark II. Kept it through my mark IV and kept it when I got the R and then now the R5. I rented the 28-70 2.0 and it blew me away. Sold off the 35, sold my 50 1.2 RF and now only have my 15-35 , 28-70 2.0 and 70-200. 28-70 is now my workhorse literally never comes off! The sharpness is crazy and yes it doesn’t go down to 1.4 BUT.. there’s something unique about this lens in the quality that i can’t figure out yet!
Great video as usual KJ, I've been using the RF 28-70 + R5 on my right side and RF 70-200 F2.8 + R6 on my left with a spider pro dual camera holster shooting hybrid photo video weddings and must say I no longer look at gear online. Another satisfied operator of the 28-70 here. Blessings.
We also made the switch. My wife uses the R5 with this lens for the entire day. I use the R5 with the RF 50 1.2 & RF 70-200. The 70-200 is insanely fast and great for second shooting and hybrid video work. It's been nice going from 9 lenses (between the two of us) to just 3. No swapping, no carrying a ton of gear with us, etc. (the 70-200 is so tiny and light, easily fits in my Holdfast bag that hangs on my Hold Fast Strap) Replaced the 24-70, 35, 50, 85, & 70-200 with this lens for my wife and the 45mp on R5 (gives us a lot of room to crop). If you've ever used the Sigma 85 Art like we did on a DSLR, the R5 and 28-70 is actually relatively the same weight and length. The 28-70 is definitely a bit wider though.
@@KatelynJames One more thing I rarely find any Canon shooters talking about with the R, R5, & R6. If you're a portrait photographer, switch the AF setting under AF in menu, on page 5, in "Initial Servo AF pt".... to the middle selection. It is the small solid box within the larger solid box icon. This allows you to have the typical servo single AF point we're used to with the DSLR so you can move your focus point anywhere you want with the joystick or back of the screen. BUT, once that box is over a face and you half press, it automatically changes to Face/Eye detect on that person's face. This allows you to grab the exact face you want every time. You can also change the focus to maybe the flowers, ring, some other detail, etc. without having to change any settings. Just stop focusing on the person's face and move the box over the object you want to refocus onto. It's the best of both worlds and you'll never be yelling at your camera when it detects the wrong face during a processional, dance, group picture, action shot, etc. You have complete control over who's face you want detected.
@Katelyn James please don’t hate me lol, but I own that 28-70 2.0 lens and I own the 85 1.2 DS + 50 1.2 RF lenses. I have to say, after 8 months of use I tend to use them all! I’ve thought about maybe selling the 50 1.2 but honestly it’s in a class of it’s own. It’s much sharper than the 28-70. Sometimes I just use that prime inside of big 3 pounder.
It would be cool to compare all the 1.8 primes to the f2. Because all the f 1.8’s add up to about the f2 so if the f2 is just better then they should just save for that instead
Amazing review. Its very refreshing to get review from someone who is using the lens in real life compared to a lot of reviewers just reading the specs.
I haven't owned the RF 28-70 f/2.0, but I have held it. It's massive. Don't overlook the RF 24-70 f/2.8. Slightly smaller aperture range, but an equally excellent lens and much easier to handle and travel with. I think I paid about $2300 for that one.
hey Katelyn have question? I'm about to buy new camera I have in mind canon us R or Lumix s1i don't know which is better!! right now I have CANON T3I AND CANON 6D AND MY NEXT I don't know which is better?
Love your channel! I totally feel the “I’m not buying RF lenses right now...” but then slowly it’s like “well maybe I could try one...” haha. I’m hoping to rent the 28-70 to see if it might be a good fit for me. Maybe the only RF lens I’ll need. Thanks for the video! 😊
Love your reviews! I recently purchased the rf 85 2.0 MACRO it is amazing and the price is unbelievable. I was hesitant because it is not a redline- but I will not look back now. And maybe I saved enough to get this or the 70.200:)
I have the RF 85mm f/2 MACRO as well and love it. I will eventually get the RF 85mm f/1.2L but I'm in no hurry for now. My next lens will be the RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS and after that will be the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm f/1.4L because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens. I'd rather keep shooting with my old EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens than spend money on the new RF version because I don't like that the zoom ring requires so many turns to get from 70mm to 200mm.
I rented this lens and it's a great lens. Focus breathing was a bit of an issue. I still don't know if I want to buy this lens, or wait for the inevitable RF 35 1.2 and buy it with the 50 1.2. What would you ultimately suggest? I also own the RF 85 1.2 and it's an amazing lens!
if you can afford the rf 35 1.2 50 1.2 85 1.2 then buy them otherwise buy the cheaper rf prime versions which is what i did. the results are still amazing. i would never bother with a zoom lens if i didn't have to
Goodness, I can’t keep up with the technology, while spending thousands of dollars for my new cameras new lenses , now this comes out. I AM SO BROKE, glad some episode are still with the good old DLSR camera settings 😅 so I keep saving until it’s time for me to upgrade, perhaps in 5 years time 😅
I’ve been hemming and hawing on this lens after I purchased the 50mm 1.2RF for about a week. Well I exchanged the lens today for the 28-70 F2 and it was the right move for me. I shoot mainly couples, maternity and children. As much as I LOVED THE 50 1.2 I can’t believe how great the 28-70 is! So happy I made the choice! Now, off to sell my kidneys.
I have a question. I just recently brought the Rf 50 1.2 for portrait. Do you think I should return it for the 28-70 f2? For right now I only do portrait work but I’ve had my eye on this lens for awhile now..
Really need help with this My Ef 24-70 lens is broken. The repair is around 600€ I mostly use the canon R5 with the adapter and this lens and sometimes my RF 35mm I've been researching and I'd like to know what you think is the best option: Buy canon RF 85mm F2 and the new RF 16mm (since I already have the RF 35mm) or Just buy the RF 24-105 f4 lens (everybody seems to love this lens) The difference between the two options is just 100€ I can't decide between this 2 options. What would you do? Also which lenses do you think have the best quality and durability? Thank you ❤️
It’s fun to see how excited you are about this lens! Have been advocating for it from early on owning it - definitely agree with just about everything you say about it! Completely replaces the 24-70 2.8, and like you said, that’s not a lens that is as loveable to use, while this 28-70 is :)
Just got it today :) looks amazing (and I'm used to using the RF 50mm 1.2, so that says a lot!) and def looks great at full zoom 70mm 2.0, but it really surprised me how beautiful it looks at 28mm 2.0, which definetely has a prime look.. very impressed and excited I can get some much better quality wides as well as 70mm portraits
Do you find using the Mark IV and the R6, being a DSLR and Mirrorless, awkward to switch between during your weddings? We have a Nikon D750 DSLR and are looking to get a Nikon Z6ii mirrorless and we are worried that the DSLR is going to be hard to go back and forth between the two. Or are you only using this Mirrorless camera throughout the wedding day, and the DSLR is sitting in your bag waiting to be used in case something goes wrong with the Mirrorless? Thanks!
It wasn't too bad! We did a wedding where Michael was on a mark 4 and I was on the r6 and that only happened for one wedding! Michael got an r6 that week and it is been super streamlined.
@@KatelynJames Thanks! We just got the z6ii in the other day and are loving the mirrorless experience! Looking forward to starting to do real shoots with it.
Any insight on the 28-70 2.0 and the 24-70 2.8- Other than the obvious aperture- the 24-70 2.8 has image stabilization ans the 2.0 does not- Trying to decide which would be best and for the price point if its worth the extra $$$$. Thanks!!!
I cannot express how much I hate your right now for having this. Its like GOLD at the moment and I have been waiting ages in the UK for this. I am expected to get one in the Autumn after pre ordering this in January. It looks amazing!!!
@@KatelynJames I have just managed to get one!!! Literally was the last one. I used this twice at two weddings and OMG!!!!! How amazing is this lens!!!!!! Have you got the 15-35mm? Thank you for your videos
If you're "weirdly attached" to your 85 you should try the 85 1.2 DS - I use it on an R5 and it's amazing. Some would argue it might look a bit unnatural ("too smooth"), but I love it. Just note that it's equivalent to a T2.0 (meaning you get the 1.2 blur/bokeh and then some - but the light coming through is "just" that of a F2.0 lens).
similar considerations led me to another decision: RF 24-70 2.8 . Why? -> no IS, better min. close-up, extra 4mm. Weight and also price diff. In my opinion more versatile for almost all scenarios and tasks.. By the way, I'm amazed at how many also professional colleagues I meet on the road with a 24-105 .. for certain tasks maybe unbeatable
I am not a Canon user, but this video was in my feed today so I checked it out.... subbed and looking forward to checking out more of your channel.... Zooms faster than 2.8, while pribably expensive, could totally be a.game changer for a LOT of photographers... I could see a sweet 3 or 4 lens kit, with a 70-200/2.8(50-140 Fujifilm?), a zoom like this one, a single really fast prime like the 85 you speak of, or the 56mm Fuji, and either a super wide zoom, or a single wide-angle prime that is wider than the zoom, say a 16mm-ish ... but some f/2 or possibly faster zooms would be sweet.... this lens may opem the door for others to try similar builds... a 16-50/1.4-2 or something, even with variable aperture, but still faster than 2.8? Or....? The possibilities are endless, but ZOOM lenses faster than 2.8 are something I dream of having someday... they will likely be pricey, BUT, the versatility could offset part of the price, as well as the factor of eliminating 1 or 2, or even maybe 3 primes.... if I could get an f/2 zoom that covered 16-50mm or so, I would likely stop wanting 16mm, 23mm, and 35mm primes...and MAYBE forego the 56mm... if you can't tell, my future camera is likely to be the Fujifilm variety, Pentax just isn't keeping pace and though O have shot K-mount lemses since 35mm film days, I doubt my next body will be a Pentax, looking to mirrorless I think... Thanks for the video, and look forward to seeing more later this weekend... keep shining ...
I'm impressed that you mention more than once the cost and your particular situation because let's be honest, your financial circumstance is not universal. I also noticed you tend to favor highlights that border on "blown out". It's obviously a creative decision but I wondered if you would comment on how you got there.
I'm a Sony shooter but I still enjoy watching your videos. I just got a new 28-70 and love it. My only question for you is why you keep referring to your other camera as a "Mark IV"? Mark indicates a generation not a specific camera. Was it a 5D?
Thanks for the review Katelyn! I am not buying it directly because of it being so expensive for my budget but I will definitely try it out. I loved the shots of your kids that were in the video. Any chance on a future video on shooting active toddlers? Would love to hear your golden tips on this! Regards
I didn't know about this lens i was having my tea as soon as i heard you saying 20-70 F2.0 my eyes literally went 👀 i am planning to shift one of my camera 60D and 5dmarkiii to Canon R6 i am excited not sure about the lenses i might get the canon adapter with dropping ND filter for videos
I'm in love with the 50mm rf 1.2. I usually gravitate towards the 35 and 85mm focal lengths. But the 50mm is just special at 1.2. I end up just bringing the 50mm everywhere I go.
Hi, do you have a video and a comparison of the 24-70mm f2, 50mm f1.2 and 85mm lenses? :) I have a fr 50mm and an ef 35mm, and also a zoom ef 24-70, but I don't use it much because f2.8. But sometimes I had to use it because I was limited in space. And I would like to sell the 35 and the zoom 24-70 and buy the rf 24-70 f2. But I don't know what the difference is then between 50mm and 85mm, whether after buying a new zoom lens it wouldn't be better to sell the 50mm and buy the rear 85. :)
such a great video about this f2 zoom lens. I am not watching your videos in order but i see in a glimps on the next recommended video about the 28-70 possibly replacing the 85? all i shoot these days are my children in my home. switching between 3 prime lens 35/50/85, I'll lose and miss some shots switching lens, no i'm not going to buy 2 bodies for family candid photos. if it can replace fro my style these 3 lens, it'll be a great savings inweight in carrying. I think the f2 should, give me a nice prime like look in the convience of a zoom. or so i hope, i always shoot around f2 anyways. thanks for this video! on the next KJ video!
This video was super helpful thank you ! I have been debating about going mirrorless and if so what lenses to get ... you sold me on this lens! I l have rented the 85 a few times and love it but I can hold off on buying that for now with this lens . Thank you , Thank you , Thank you !
Great review. I agonized over getting this or the RF 24-70 2.8 IS. I ended up going with the 24-70 for it's portability, but I keep thinking about this lens. I'd love to see your review on the RF 85 and RF 50
Hi KJ, Thank you for your review. I am blown away by those really amazing shots !!!! I am considering getting this Lens. I will probably use this lens around the house to take pictures of kids and also probably some landscape photography, waterfalls with ND filter, etc. I know that this lens is heavy but do you feel like your hands get tired after you take 4-5 pictures ? Is it something that can be comfortably taken on a hike ? How big of a deal is it to not have IS ?
Katelyn - Glad you went ahead and got the 28-70 f/2! Back in October I told you it was my favorite RF lens because it can take the place of 3 primes without much compromise! It is a beast of a lens, but does it ever deliver results! I did my daughter's senior photos and they turned out amazing! I have another daughter I will do her senior photos this summer, so that is how I justified some of my purchase of both the R5 and the 28-70 f/2. One thing that might help some people is keeping an eye on the Canon website for that lens factory refurbished. I got my as a refurbished unit and saved over $400! You are at the mercy of them being in-stock, but if someone can be patient it is definitely an option. Thanks for the update and welcome to the RF mount camera and lens club! Who knows, you might even get another R6 for your 2nd camera or dare I say, an R5 and the R6 becomes the 2nd. Best Regards from DadsTalkTech!
Great point about the refurbished, that could be a great option for some! We currently own 2 R6s. We have no plans of buying an R5, we don't need any of the features!
@@KatelynJames Just like you didn't need any of the RF mount lens features... 😉 We've been down the road together before... I get it, but if you haven't seen the images you can produce with the R5 I can assure you that you don't know what you are missing. For example, from a reach perspective, the R5 with the extra resolution you "don't need" would allow you to crop significantly with no loss in details. You may not always need the pixels, but I can tell you when you do and you don't have them there is nothing you can do. Another thing that might seem small, but I can edit photos while others are still transferring images to their computer. The CF Express Cards are lightning-fast and much more durable than SD cards. Yes, the R5 files are larger but the card is fast enough to more than makeup for it. There are many other advantages, but I also understand it is a cost justification issue for your business. Lastly, forgot to mention in my previous post that if you have any problems with the balance with the 28-70 f/2, the battery grip does help a bit with that.
This lens is amazing! I shoot on 2 R6s throughout a wedding day, and this one stays on one the whole time! It is functional for getting ready, ceremony, portraits, and reception. My second R6 usually wears a 70-200 during the ceremony and the RF 85 1.2 during formals. The 28-70 is perfect for family and group photos, and the 85 is just incredible for B&G portraits. The only downside is the weight LOL!
Will a Canon R do well with a 70-200 2.8? I have an R6 with a Sigma 35mm 1.4, and I am wondering about adding another camera, but I can’t afford another R6. Or would you say attach the 70-200 2.8 to my R6 and add the 35mm lens to the Canon R?
@@royaltykidstv I have no experience with the R but my initial thought would be to go with the R6 for the 70-200 and the 35 on the R. The additional in body stabilization in the r6 will help with the longer lens
I'm currently debating between getting this lens and the RF 85 MM 1.2 (Which is my favorite EF lens) for my Canon R5, I don't know if the weight would bother me too much. I love the versatility of it though! If you could only afford either the RF 85mm or the RF 28-70MM which would you pick? Would love to see your review and comparison of of the RF 85 1.2. (85mm is also my favorite focal length
I debated between the RF 28-70mm f/2L and the 85mm f/1.2L and decided on the RF 28-70mm f/2L and have no regrets using it on my R5 bodies. But that's because I already have the 85mm f/2 macro IS, so although I do plan to upgrade my RF 85mm f/2 at some point it made more sense for me to get the RF 28-70mm f/2L. My next lens will be the RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS and then I'll probably go with the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm f/1.4L because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS design.
besides f2.0 i would go with the 24-70L RF.... in Canada the 28-70 is $3900 (ouch) vs $2999 for the 24-70. And is it worth the weight? Na But im sure it serves the purpose for someone. Great video !
Because of all the problems and poor results I'm getting on my R5 with my Tamron and Sigma lenses, I'm seriously considering getting this RF 28-70. My primes are 35, 50, 85, and 105. For most of what I shoot, I think this 28-70 could successfully replace at least the 35 and 50, and maybe even the 85.
buying this lens has been one fo the best decisions I have made when it comes to glass... never loved the 24-70 f2.8... I had it just to close the gap of the 16-35, to the 70-200.... Now when I travel I only take the 28-70 and 70-200.
Thank you for the great review.. You guys are so lucky in the states. The lens in Australia is nearly $5000. You really have to be earning good money as a professional photographer to justify such a mammoth cost like that. At this stage I’m about to look to purchase the RF 85mm.. But I cannot afford the red ring. Even the cheaper 85mm RF lens in Australia is $2000. But I am definitely going to save up for this lens based on your review because like you stated in your review it really is like shooting with a prime. Some of the soft backgrounds while maintaining a sharp focal point was just incredible. Well done. ✌🏻
Today was like christmas day! I received my R6 and boy am I glad I bought it. What an upgrade to my 5D mark III. My first RF lens will be the RF 28-70 f/2.0. Not sure when it will be delivered but I guess it would be a second christmas day feeling when it does. For now I'll do with the EF 24-70 and 70-200 using the adapter. Any lens recommendations for wide angle shots?
Well, I've taken the first step to getting closer to an active hobbiest, I purchased the MacBook Pro! My first Mac! Twice the price I wanted to spend lol. I'll be ready for your courses soon!!!! With the 28-70,, do you find no image stabilizer a problem or is that more for video? So excited to dive into photography! You inspired me to make it finally happen!!
This was so helpful and I would love to see more about your RF lenses! I have the R6 camera and RF 50mm lens. I am trying to decide which lens to buy next. Should I get the RF 85mm? Or RF 28-70mm?
I have an RF 85mm f/2 as well as the 50mm f/1.2 for my R5. I rarely use the 85mm, lol, but it actually has a party trick up its sleeve, that it works as a semi-macro.
Battery Grip is essential for balance. Was the first lens I bought with my eos r a year ago. I now have an r5 as a primary and an R6 as my backup. 28-70 stays on the 5 70-200 stays on the 6 mostly. The grip helps soooo much!
I support heavier lenses by using my left hand under the lens for support of the entire weight so I’ve never felt the need to add even more weight to the body with a battery grip.
Welcome to the RF (28-70 + 85) L club. :) The 85 1.2 is hard to beat when you want to step below f2. Have you tried Leica Q2? it‘s slow but it feels REALLY nice.
That is a BEASTY lens! Thanks for this great video! Something I'm worried about moving to the R6 is feeling the need to buy all new lenses instead of using the adaptor ring!
You can TOTALLY use the adapter and EF lenses and get amazing results. You do not need RF lenses to shoot professionally. This lens is just SO unique, nothing like this has ever existed from Canon before!
@@KatelynJames Thats so good to hear! Its just the niggling thought I'll have thinking "you should probably get RF lenses now" haha! I've only just bought the 50mm 1.2 and the 16-35, both EF. Terrible decision to make before then buying an R6 ha! You have definitely sold me on this 28-70!
There’s one more RF mount magic lens... the 70-200 2.8L. I thought for sure I was going to get an 85 and 135 prime, but got the RF 70-200 2.8 instead. OMG. No, it’s doesn’t go down to 1.2, 1.4, or 2.0, but if you can step back just a little further and punch it out to 150-200 wide open... man... total magic. It’s also very good at 70-135. You could literally have just two lenses, the 28-70, and 70-200.
Great video! I have been entertaining the idea of ordering this lens since the RF 35mm L is taking so long to come out. How do you like the lens on the wider end, specifically 28mm-35mm?
I have a question... I am retiring from my photography business as a sole business owner as I can't do photography like I used to do my Rheumatoid Arthritis. I have a Mark III and was thinking of selling my camera, yet I am afraid to sell it as my 20-year-old daughter said she might want to take up photography. My question is would it be better to just have her take over my camera to begin, Or be better off to sell my camera and start her on something less expensive. I am not familiar with the R6 so I don't know if it is more expensive than the Mark canons. Thank you!
I recently pulled the trigger and upgraded from an RP to an R6, a large part due to your previous review of it. I am so glad I did, because It has been an absolute dream to use. Now I just need to save up to buy a lens like this. I have been obsessed with fast zooms ever since I picked up a 18-35mm F1.8 and then later a 50-100mm f1.8 for my old crop sensor camera. But $3000 is just so much money for a lens, especially for someone who doesn't do this for a living. Honestly right now I am leaning more towards the 28-70 f2.8 as a compromise, but it's still fairly expensive. Part of me thinks if I'm already spending $2,300 what's another $700... But realistically $700 is still a lot of money.
Glad you're loving the R6! Yes it's a tough decision. The 24-70 is definitely not cheap by any means. It really comes down to how often you prefer to shoot at 2.0 and if it's worth the extra money for that additional stop of light!
Looks like this lens is currently backordered everywhere BUT if you're interested in purchasing one you should place an order ASAP to get your spot in line for this amazing lens!
What makes these new lenses so "magical" is the shortened flange distance. It may seem like a small shift, but when it comes to optics it's huge. All of that space occupied by a DSLR mirror or the negative space created by an adapter is gone, and the back element is literally millimeters from the sensor. It's a big deal. It means much better sharpness, much better color, just much better optical quality in general… I personally am obsessed with my RF 70-200 2.8 which I upgraded to from the third generation EF version which came out not long ago itself. It's such a wild improvement I'm blown away. Even though that lens is a 2.8 and doesn't let in as much light, it has just as much of the "magic" you speak of.
I had a 28-70 2.0 backordered from Canon that I'll never get now, and I'm still on the fence about getting it. I'm actually far more focused on studio lighting and am very strongly considering the 90MP R5s that will be announced soon. But it really was a tossup for me which I'll get next, the RF 85 1.2 DS or the 28-70 2.0… Finally decided it will be this lens…
I'm mostly thrilled about you talking about it being super fast focusing. This was one thing I was a little questionable about since it's SO massive. The RF 70-200 2.8 is SO fast focusing it blows my mind. I'm so relieved to hear this one is too!
There was literally one of these left in Australia after Canon burned their factory down, and I was so so lucky to purchase it yesterday. I'm super stoked.
Do you not find this too heavy for all-day weddings to carry around when you shoot with 2 bodies?
Does it not having image stabilization effect your images?
@@MyNameIsKaitlyn - The Canon R5 and R6 bodies have In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) so this makes up for the lens not having image stabilization.
I wasn't too worried about the lack of image stabilization because I had been using the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L lens which also has no image stabilization. This new 28-70mm f/2L lens is one stop faster which means my shutter speed could be one stop faster at the same ISO, so even on a body without IBIS (EOS R or EOS RP) this lens is still very functional.
Experience as a photography is better to me than a tech reviewer that doesn't do photography so I love these videos from you.
Glad you like them!
Your videos make so much more sense because many of us do not care in real life about corner sharpness at each and every aperture!! It’s about how it feels, what’s the look and character of the lens, does it make sense financially, is it practical… etc
Thanks for watching!
This lens plus lockdown and 3 young boys and the R5 is godsend - i was able to document all the fun moments with them and create memories that last a lifetime!
So fun! Glad you are liking it!
You convinced me enough to buy the R6 with the 28-70mm and I can attest that it’s the perfect setup for me. Took a while to get used to the weight but the image quality and convenience outweigh its flaws in my book. Thanks katelyn
Love it! Thanks for sharing!!
I shot my first 2 day job with this lens this week and I didn't even pull my 35 or 85 out of the bag for the entire 2 days. That's something I would have never thought possible. The 28-70 is a gem of a lens and will be part of my kit now for sometime I imagine. I think I'll still keep a 35 and 85 but I reckon all the heavy lifting will be done with the 28-70
Definitely! I can't get rid of my 85 quite yet but maybe the 50 and 35!
Lol. I remember watching your R6 review when you said you didn't "need" an RF lens any time soon. I was like "mmhmm. Wait until she tries the 28-70." Good on you for giving it a try. As attached as you are to your EF85 1.2, just wait until you try the RF version. Just in case you're looking for another business expense.
I probably don't "need" any of my RF lenses but I wanted to give them a shot for education purposes! I own the RF version of the 50 and 85! I just need to test them out so I can make a review!
This lens has lived on my R5 since I got it. It’s massively flexible in events and around the house and it has a certain “character” the 24-70 F2.8 (EF or RF) just doesn’t have. Combined with the technical advantages like you mentioned like autofocus, this lens is the gold standard zoom for Canon still photography i feel. Heavy and costly but very happy with mine too!!
Totally agree!
I feel this. I sold my EF 85, 100, 135, and 200 (all L series) to get the RF 70-200. When I was on a 5Diii I felt like I really needed the faster apertures both for focusing confidence and to keep that ISO low, but since I’ve had an R6 I feel like 2.8 is pleeeeenty. Although sometimes I miss having an overkill shallow DOF.
Thanks for sharing!
Welcome to the 28-70 club - I have an R6 and that lens lives on my camera body (might as well be welded on) since it is so flexible, fast and sharp. Plus one lens costs less, weighs less, and takes less space in the bag than the lenses it displaces. I would sell my 24, 35, 50 and 85 EF L’s if I didn’t still need them for my cinema bodies.
It hasn't come off my camera since October! I bought the RF 50mm and RF 85mm and have taken ZERO shots with either 🙈
We did the same thing some 3-4 decades ago, when film photographers started shifting towards zoom lenses. That carried forward to the DSLR era and made the lens trinity a popular choice. But history repeats itself and driven by the bokeh trend, primes becomes fashionable again.
Thanks for the review! I agree all the way.
I got the 28-70 2.0L along with my R6 since I had the feel that by definition this lens would set a new standard. And it does indeed. It's worth every penny.
I would even say it's downright affordable, since we are talking an industry first that's easily on par with a Zeiss lens optically, and those guys would charge way over 4000 bucks for a piece of kit like this (and people wouldn't even complain). So I actually applaud Canon for making something like this accessible to pretty much any professional shooter.
Combined with the R6, it does indeed negate the need for prime lenses (I was a HUGE prime lens shooter, with a 17-40 4.0 L being the only zoom lens in my bag). And that's mainly because of two things:
1) It's super sharp wide open and has pretty much zero CA, whereas on pretty much all prime lenses, even the super premium ones, you would need to stop down a bit anyways to get an image that is really sharp, if not for optical performance, then for the fact that your depth if field get's so super shallow. So as you said, you'd have to need a very specific environment to make a 1.4 work, like detail shots. In my experience, the 28-70 is so good at 2.0, that - apart from test charts in a lab setting, it is pretty much impossible to distiguish the wide open shots from the stopped down ones.
2) The R5 and even more so the R6 are super good in low light, so you don't need an 1.4 aperture to get decent shots in low light conditions. You literally can get away with setting your auto ISO range at 100-10000 and if you are shooting JPEG, you'll be having a hard time even identifying the higher ISO shots by eye.
So yes, it's heavy and it costs money, but boy it delivers. And yes, it only works on the RF mount, but that very fact is part of the key to the awsome performance. The much larger mount allows for a significantly closer placement of lens/sensor, hence giving you a much better image.
Concerning travel, this lens might even make your bag considerably lighter, since you can leave a lot of other lenses at home. Add to that, that you might not need to buy those lenses in the first place, and there is your price argument gone as well. And in hectic/eratic conditions and dusty/wet environments, NOT having to change lenses while having that "prime" look can be invaluable. Oh, and it's also amazing for video!
Currently, I am looking at the (also amazing) RF 70-200 2.8L and I'd like to have a super wide angle lens like the RF 15-35 2.8L. Writing this, with the RF zooms being as good as they are, I don't see myself going back to prime lenses for the foreseeable future.
Enough bla bla, I agree, it is a fantastic lens!
Wow thanks for sharing this is so good!! Thanks for watching!
I recently bought this lens and I don't really like it. I am going back to my dual camera setup of 85mm and 35mm. I just didn't feel like this lens is worth 3000$ 28mm is a lackluster focal length and 70mm just doesn't cut it for me. The only 2 focal length that works for me with in this lens is the 35mm and the 50mm but at f2 that is equivalent to their cheap nify 50 1.8 and 35mm 1.8. I wanted to like this lens but will be selling it soon.
I also wanted to add that I love your videos keep up the great work!!
I would love a review on the 85mm and the 50mm RF
We'll add it to the list for our next filming session!!
Seconded! Would love your thoughts on the 50mm RF 1.2 from a wedding photographer’s perspective. 🙂
They are amazing! Lol
Really like your videos but when you show photos in these videos it would he helpful to know what settings you were using to shoot some of these gorgeous photos
You should check out KJ All Access
When I bought my EOS R5 I wasn’t soo much interested in RF lenses due to how heavy they are, until when I accidentally bought RF 85mm f1.2 after checking
My images I was left mouth opened. I sold my 16-35 f2.8, 24-70mm f2.8 and I bought the 28-70mm f2
I can tell you I haven’t stopped taking photos since then. Love this lens
Such an amazing lens! Thanks for watching!
I'm in the process of getting an R6 and now that you mentioned this lens I never thought of renting one and given that a try first. Thank you and God bless 🙏
Thanks for watching!
I got the RF 28-70mm f/2L lens a few weeks ago and *I LOVE IT* on my EOS R5 bodies. I debated between this lens and the RF 85mm f/1.2L but I already have the RF 85mm f/2 IS, so the versatility of this lens made more sense to me for now. I'll eventually get the RF 85mm f/1.2L but not until after getting the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm lens, because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens.
Glad to see this video because I didn't expect to see you shooting with a zoom, nor would I ever see you actually enjoy shooting with a zoom. But as you say, this lens is definitely magical.
I'm really glad I got it and even though it's super expensive, it's very well worth it and I'd do it all over again.
Haha I didn't think I would enjoy it! That has been one of the surprises of the youtube world! We had so many people telling us to try it! And we love it!
Thank u so much for this info Katelyn! I’m in the process of updating my kit and you’ve helped me consider this lens over purchasing new 35 and 50mm prime lenses. I haven’t used a zoom lens for so long! Thank u heaps! Fi
Thanks for watching!
This lens never comes off our R5, absolutely love it
It's the best!
Perfect timing with this video! Yes please review the 50 & 85!!
Thanks for watching! We'll add it to the list for our next filming session!
Great Video. I already have the RF 50 f1.2 and RF 85 f1.2, but your video makes me wonder if I should still get the RF 28-70 f2.0? For event, especially indoor with limited space? Will be good to hear your view.
We love the 28-70!
I've done a lot of indoor events at banquet halls and conference rooms where tables made the 24-70 a little challenging. I'm considering the 15-35 f/2.8 to use in those situations.
I had a strong attachment to my 35mm 1.4 mark II. Kept it through my mark IV and kept it when I got the R and then now the R5. I rented the 28-70 2.0 and it blew me away. Sold off the 35, sold my 50 1.2 RF and now only have my 15-35 , 28-70 2.0 and 70-200. 28-70 is now my workhorse literally never comes off! The sharpness is crazy and yes it doesn’t go down to 1.4 BUT.. there’s something unique about this lens in the quality that i can’t figure out yet!
Agree! There is something so special about this lens.
Great video as usual KJ, I've been using the RF 28-70 + R5 on my right side and RF 70-200 F2.8 + R6 on my left with a spider pro dual camera holster shooting hybrid photo video weddings and must say I no longer look at gear online. Another satisfied operator of the 28-70 here. Blessings.
That is an awesome set up!
We also made the switch. My wife uses the R5 with this lens for the entire day. I use the R5 with the RF 50 1.2 & RF 70-200. The 70-200 is insanely fast and great for second shooting and hybrid video work. It's been nice going from 9 lenses (between the two of us) to just 3. No swapping, no carrying a ton of gear with us, etc. (the 70-200 is so tiny and light, easily fits in my Holdfast bag that hangs on my Hold Fast Strap) Replaced the 24-70, 35, 50, 85, & 70-200 with this lens for my wife and the 45mp on R5 (gives us a lot of room to crop).
If you've ever used the Sigma 85 Art like we did on a DSLR, the R5 and 28-70 is actually relatively the same weight and length. The 28-70 is definitely a bit wider though.
Wow that is amazing!! We need to try the 70-200
@@KatelynJames One more thing I rarely find any Canon shooters talking about with the R, R5, & R6. If you're a portrait photographer, switch the AF setting under AF in menu, on page 5, in "Initial Servo AF pt".... to the middle selection. It is the small solid box within the larger solid box icon.
This allows you to have the typical servo single AF point we're used to with the DSLR so you can move your focus point anywhere you want with the joystick or back of the screen. BUT, once that box is over a face and you half press, it automatically changes to Face/Eye detect on that person's face. This allows you to grab the exact face you want every time. You can also change the focus to maybe the flowers, ring, some other detail, etc. without having to change any settings. Just stop focusing on the person's face and move the box over the object you want to refocus onto.
It's the best of both worlds and you'll never be yelling at your camera when it detects the wrong face during a processional, dance, group picture, action shot, etc. You have complete control over who's face you want detected.
@Katelyn James please don’t hate me lol, but I own that 28-70 2.0 lens and I own the 85 1.2 DS + 50 1.2 RF lenses. I have to say, after 8 months of use I tend to use them all! I’ve thought about maybe selling the 50 1.2 but honestly it’s in a class of it’s own. It’s much sharper than the 28-70. Sometimes I just use that prime inside of big 3 pounder.
Great point! Excited to play with the 85!
It would be cool to compare all the 1.8 primes to the f2. Because all the f 1.8’s add up to about the f2 so if the f2 is just better then they should just save for that instead
Amazing review. Its very refreshing to get review from someone who is using the lens in real life compared to a lot of reviewers just reading the specs.
Thanks!
- WoW! The color of your hair is BEAUTIFUL!!! The video was good too.
Thank you so much!!
I just bought a Sony A73, this actually makes me want to switch back to Canon, I love your images!
We love it!!
Canon is amazing!
I think you've presuaded me Katelyn. 👍 Good review, I have seen many, but I think I was waiting for this one.
Hope you like it!
I haven't owned the RF 28-70 f/2.0, but I have held it. It's massive. Don't overlook the RF 24-70 f/2.8. Slightly smaller aperture range, but an equally excellent lens and much easier to handle and travel with. I think I paid about $2300 for that one.
Yes the 24-70 is a great option, especially if you need IS. I prefer the look of the 2.0 personally but both are great options!
hey Katelyn have question? I'm about to buy new camera I have in mind canon us R or Lumix s1i don't know which is better!! right now I have CANON T3I AND CANON 6D AND MY NEXT I don't know which is better?
I'm not familiar with the Lumix! Sorry
Love your channel! I totally feel the “I’m not buying RF lenses right now...” but then slowly it’s like “well maybe I could try one...” haha. I’m hoping to rent the 28-70 to see if it might be a good fit for me. Maybe the only RF lens I’ll need. Thanks for the video! 😊
Glad it was helpful! I would rent it for sure!
Love your reviews! I recently purchased the rf 85 2.0 MACRO it is amazing and the price is unbelievable. I was hesitant because it is not a redline- but I will not look back now. And maybe I saved enough to get this or the 70.200:)
I have the RF 85mm f/2 MACRO as well and love it. I will eventually get the RF 85mm f/1.2L but I'm in no hurry for now. My next lens will be the RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS and after that will be the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm f/1.4L because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens. I'd rather keep shooting with my old EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens than spend money on the new RF version because I don't like that the zoom ring requires so many turns to get from 70mm to 200mm.
Good choice!
i have that lens too the 85 2.0 and i also got the 50 1.8 and the 800mm f11 all amazing lenses. the rf 100-400 is extremely disappointing though
I bought the same Combo , Canon R6 + RF 28-70 f2 , I love it
It's such a great combo! That's super smart! I love my 85mm too much to not use it on a wedding day!
This! 28-70 and 85 is a wicked combination 😍
@@DanielFazzari yeah same this thing + 70-200 seem just perfect for events and portraits. Throw in the 851.2 for specialized portraits and I’m set.
I rented this lens and it's a great lens. Focus breathing was a bit of an issue. I still don't know if I want to buy this lens, or wait for the inevitable RF 35 1.2 and buy it with the 50 1.2. What would you ultimately suggest? I also own the RF 85 1.2 and it's an amazing lens!
It depends on the use! I am a fan of the zoom lens right now!
if you can afford the rf 35 1.2 50 1.2 85 1.2 then buy them otherwise buy the cheaper rf prime versions which is what i did. the results are still amazing. i would never bother with a zoom lens if i didn't have to
Goodness, I can’t keep up with the technology, while spending thousands of dollars for my new cameras new lenses , now this comes out. I AM SO BROKE, glad some episode are still with the good old DLSR camera settings 😅 so I keep saving until it’s time for me to upgrade, perhaps in 5 years time 😅
You and me both!
😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve been hemming and hawing on this lens after I purchased the 50mm 1.2RF for about a week. Well I exchanged the lens today for the 28-70 F2 and it was the right move for me. I shoot mainly couples, maternity and children. As much as I LOVED THE 50 1.2 I can’t believe how great the 28-70 is! So happy I made the choice! Now, off to sell my kidneys.
Ha! Great choice, you're going to love it!
I have a question. I just recently brought the Rf 50 1.2 for portrait. Do you think I should return it for the 28-70 f2? For right now I only do portrait work but I’ve had my eye on this lens for awhile now..
We do love the 28-70. Maybe rent it and try it!
Really need help with this
My Ef 24-70 lens is broken. The repair is around 600€
I mostly use the canon R5 with the adapter and this lens and sometimes my RF 35mm
I've been researching and I'd like to know what you think is the best option:
Buy canon RF 85mm F2 and the new RF 16mm
(since I already have the RF 35mm)
or
Just buy the RF 24-105 f4 lens
(everybody seems to love this lens)
The difference between the two options is just 100€
I can't decide between this 2 options. What would you do?
Also which lenses do you think have the best quality and durability?
Thank you ❤️
Thanks for watching!
It’s fun to see how excited you are about this lens! Have been advocating for it from early on owning it - definitely agree with just about everything you say about it! Completely replaces the 24-70 2.8, and like you said, that’s not a lens that is as loveable to use, while this 28-70 is :)
I love it!
Just got it today :) looks amazing (and I'm used to using the RF 50mm 1.2, so that says a lot!) and def looks great at full zoom 70mm 2.0, but it really surprised me how beautiful it looks at 28mm 2.0, which definetely has a prime look.. very impressed and excited I can get some much better quality wides as well as 70mm portraits
So glad that I came across your channel today. Katelyn, you are so awesome. Your content is so informative.
Thanks so much Roger!! Welcome!!
Love this! I have the R6 with RF28-70mm 2.0 but using the battery grip with it definitely helps the weight distribution and grip!
Great point, I could definitely see that helping with overall balance!
@@KatelynJames I never thought a lens would be able to be so versatile. Never leaves the camera!
Just received this lens. (After 3 months on backorder.)
KJ, I concur! It's magical!
You are gonna love it!
Do you find using the Mark IV and the R6, being a DSLR and Mirrorless, awkward to switch between during your weddings?
We have a Nikon D750 DSLR and are looking to get a Nikon Z6ii mirrorless and we are worried that the DSLR is going to be hard to go back and forth between the two. Or are you only using this Mirrorless camera throughout the wedding day, and the DSLR is sitting in your bag waiting to be used in case something goes wrong with the Mirrorless? Thanks!
It wasn't too bad! We did a wedding where Michael was on a mark 4 and I was on the r6 and that only happened for one wedding! Michael got an r6 that week and it is been super streamlined.
@@KatelynJames Thanks! We just got the z6ii in the other day and are loving the mirrorless experience! Looking forward to starting to do real shoots with it.
Any insight on the 28-70 2.0 and the 24-70 2.8- Other than the obvious aperture- the 24-70 2.8 has image stabilization ans the 2.0 does not- Trying to decide which would be best and for the price point if its worth the extra $$$$. Thanks!!!
2.0 is worth it!!
I have a Sony but I use 24-70 alllll the time. I don’t like prime lenses much. Love the flexibility of that lens and it works for almost everything.
Thanks for watching!
I cannot express how much I hate your right now for having this. Its like GOLD at the moment and I have been waiting ages in the UK for this. I am expected to get one in the Autumn after pre ordering this in January. It looks amazing!!!
It really is amazing!!
@@KatelynJames I have just managed to get one!!! Literally was the last one. I used this twice at two weddings and OMG!!!!! How amazing is this lens!!!!!! Have you got the 15-35mm? Thank you for your videos
If you're "weirdly attached" to your 85 you should try the 85 1.2 DS - I use it on an R5 and it's amazing. Some would argue it might look a bit unnatural ("too smooth"), but I love it. Just note that it's equivalent to a T2.0 (meaning you get the 1.2 blur/bokeh and then some - but the light coming through is "just" that of a F2.0 lens).
Thanks for watching!
similar considerations led me to another decision: RF 24-70 2.8 . Why? -> no IS, better min. close-up, extra 4mm. Weight and also price diff.
In my opinion more versatile for almost all scenarios and tasks.. By the way, I'm amazed at how many also professional colleagues I meet on the road with a 24-105 .. for certain tasks maybe unbeatable
Thanks for watching!
I just bought Canon 90d. I have kit lens 18-135 but would you recommend another lense for wedding and boudoir. Thank you
A 50mm is a great place to start!
70mm is snoozarific compared to 85 or 90 for a portrait! It seems only L has figured out that 28 to 90 is the sweet spot for a standard zoom
Thanks for watching!!
I am not a Canon user, but this video was in my feed today so I checked it out.... subbed and looking forward to checking out more of your channel....
Zooms faster than 2.8, while pribably expensive, could totally be a.game changer for a LOT of photographers... I could see a sweet 3 or 4 lens kit, with a 70-200/2.8(50-140 Fujifilm?), a zoom like this one, a single really fast prime like the 85 you speak of, or the 56mm Fuji, and either a super wide zoom, or a single wide-angle prime that is wider than the zoom, say a 16mm-ish ... but some f/2 or possibly faster zooms would be sweet.... this lens may opem the door for others to try similar builds... a 16-50/1.4-2 or something, even with variable aperture, but still faster than 2.8? Or....? The possibilities are endless, but ZOOM lenses faster than 2.8 are something I dream of having someday... they will likely be pricey, BUT, the versatility could offset part of the price, as well as the factor of eliminating 1 or 2, or even maybe 3 primes.... if I could get an f/2 zoom that covered 16-50mm or so, I would likely stop wanting 16mm, 23mm, and 35mm primes...and MAYBE forego the 56mm... if you can't tell, my future camera is likely to be the Fujifilm variety, Pentax just isn't keeping pace and though O have shot K-mount lemses since 35mm film days, I doubt my next body will be a Pentax, looking to mirrorless I think...
Thanks for the video, and look forward to seeing more later this weekend... keep shining ...
Thanks for watching!
The byes at the end! Haha, you guys are the BEST! Thank you for your input, as always!
You're the best!
I'm impressed that you mention more than once the cost and your particular situation because let's be honest, your financial circumstance is not universal. I also noticed you tend to favor highlights that border on "blown out". It's obviously a creative decision but I wondered if you would comment on how you got there.
Clearly a subjective choice, but yeah. Some shots I'm thinking, "just dial down the exposure a notch so we can see some detail."
Thanks for watching! I should do a video on this! I get a lot of questions about it!
My local Photo store just received a new single RF 28-70 f2 L. Serial number in the 280's.
These things are so scarce. It is now mine.
Awesome!!
Thanks for video! Do you have thoughts on the 24-70 2.8 RF? Is it significantly better than the 24-70 EF?
I want to know too!
Thanks for watching!
I'm a Sony shooter but I still enjoy watching your videos. I just got a new 28-70 and love it. My only question for you is why you keep referring to your other camera as a "Mark IV"? Mark indicates a generation not a specific camera. Was it a 5D?
yes 5d mark iv!
Katelyn, thank you very much! ❤
Thanks for the review Katelyn! I am not buying it directly because of it being so expensive for my budget but I will definitely try it out. I loved the shots of your kids that were in the video. Any chance on a future video on shooting active toddlers? Would love to hear your golden tips on this! Regards
This lens is perfect shooting young kids running around because you can use insane shutter speed.
Thats a great idea!
Thanks for the advise 👌
I didn't know about this lens i was having my tea as soon as i heard you saying 20-70 F2.0 my eyes literally went 👀 i am planning to shift one of my camera 60D and 5dmarkiii to Canon R6 i am excited not sure about the lenses i might get the canon adapter with dropping ND filter for videos
Thanks for watching!
I'm in love with the 50mm rf 1.2. I usually gravitate towards the 35 and 85mm focal lengths. But the 50mm is just special at 1.2. I end up just bringing the 50mm everywhere I go.
Thanks for watching!
that thing is even sharp at 1.2.. it def looks nice!
Katelyn, do you use your old 85mm lens with an adapter for your R6 or do you recommend buying the new R6 85mm lens? Thank you.
We just got the rf 85 but I haven't used it enough!
Was wondering how you like that compared to your older 85 prime. Thank you!
Love to see you doing a comparison between the two 85 prime especially considering that's your signature lens.
Katelyn I would LOVE to see more videos on your family photography!
More to come!
Hi, do you have a video and a comparison of the 24-70mm f2, 50mm f1.2 and 85mm lenses? :) I have a fr 50mm and an ef 35mm, and also a zoom ef 24-70, but I don't use it much because f2.8. But sometimes I had to use it because I was limited in space. And I would like to sell the 35 and the zoom 24-70 and buy the rf 24-70 f2. But I don't know what the difference is then between 50mm and 85mm, whether after buying a new zoom lens it wouldn't be better to sell the 50mm and buy the rear 85. :)
such a great video about this f2 zoom lens. I am not watching your videos in order but i see in a glimps on the next recommended video about the 28-70 possibly replacing the 85? all i shoot these days are my children in my home. switching between 3 prime lens 35/50/85, I'll lose and miss some shots switching lens, no i'm not going to buy 2 bodies for family candid photos. if it can replace fro my style these 3 lens, it'll be a great savings inweight in carrying. I think the f2 should, give me a nice prime like look in the convience of a zoom. or so i hope, i always shoot around f2 anyways. thanks for this video! on the next KJ video!
We love the 28-70 for family stuff around the house!
This video was super helpful thank you ! I have been debating about going mirrorless and if so what lenses to get ... you sold me on this lens! I l have rented the 85 a few times and love it but I can hold off on buying that for now with this lens . Thank you , Thank you , Thank you !
Glad it was helpful!
I've always used primes primarily. But the convenience of a really good zoom is very very nice
It really is!
Great review. I agonized over getting this or the RF 24-70 2.8 IS. I ended up going with the 24-70 for it's portability, but I keep thinking about this lens. I'd love to see your review on the RF 85 and RF 50
That'll be coming next month!
I’m debating between RF 24-70 & RF 28-70 too, how’s your experience with the RF24-70? Is it good too?
@@sylvoniaa I can’t complain at all about the 24-70. It is the best 24-70 I’ve ever used!
Beautiful video. I am nearly there in buying this lens. If I may ask what are the other RF glass you like to use in combination with 28-70?
We have the 50 and the 85 currently
Hi KJ, Thank you for your review. I am blown away by those really amazing shots !!!! I am considering getting this Lens. I will probably use this lens around the house to take pictures of kids and also probably some landscape photography, waterfalls with ND filter, etc. I know that this lens is heavy but do you feel like your hands get tired after you take 4-5 pictures ? Is it something that can be comfortably taken on a hike ? How big of a deal is it to not have IS ?
No it is not that heavy for me... I have used it for most of a wedding day!
The Samyang RF 85 1.4 is hot 🔥 if you want an rf that isn’t too expensive and is pretty lightweight.
Thanks for sharing!
Katelyn - Glad you went ahead and got the 28-70 f/2! Back in October I told you it was my favorite RF lens because it can take the place of 3 primes without much compromise! It is a beast of a lens, but does it ever deliver results! I did my daughter's senior photos and they turned out amazing! I have another daughter I will do her senior photos this summer, so that is how I justified some of my purchase of both the R5 and the 28-70 f/2.
One thing that might help some people is keeping an eye on the Canon website for that lens factory refurbished. I got my as a refurbished unit and saved over $400! You are at the mercy of them being in-stock, but if someone can be patient it is definitely an option.
Thanks for the update and welcome to the RF mount camera and lens club! Who knows, you might even get another R6 for your 2nd camera or dare I say, an R5 and the R6 becomes the 2nd.
Best Regards from DadsTalkTech!
Great point about the refurbished, that could be a great option for some! We currently own 2 R6s. We have no plans of buying an R5, we don't need any of the features!
@@KatelynJames Just like you didn't need any of the RF mount lens features... 😉 We've been down the road together before...
I get it, but if you haven't seen the images you can produce with the R5 I can assure you that you don't know what you are missing. For example, from a reach perspective, the R5 with the extra resolution you "don't need" would allow you to crop significantly with no loss in details. You may not always need the pixels, but I can tell you when you do and you don't have them there is nothing you can do.
Another thing that might seem small, but I can edit photos while others are still transferring images to their computer. The CF Express Cards are lightning-fast and much more durable than SD cards. Yes, the R5 files are larger but the card is fast enough to more than makeup for it.
There are many other advantages, but I also understand it is a cost justification issue for your business.
Lastly, forgot to mention in my previous post that if you have any problems with the balance with the 28-70 f/2, the battery grip does help a bit with that.
This lens is amazing! I shoot on 2 R6s throughout a wedding day, and this one stays on one the whole time! It is functional for getting ready, ceremony, portraits, and reception. My second R6 usually wears a 70-200 during the ceremony and the RF 85 1.2 during formals. The 28-70 is perfect for family and group photos, and the 85 is just incredible for B&G portraits. The only downside is the weight LOL!
Totally Agree!
Will a Canon R do well with a 70-200 2.8? I have an R6 with a Sigma 35mm 1.4, and I am wondering about adding another camera, but I can’t afford another R6.
Or would you say attach the 70-200 2.8 to my R6 and add the 35mm lens to the Canon R?
@@royaltykidstv I have no experience with the R but my initial thought would be to go with the R6 for the 70-200 and the 35 on the R. The additional in body stabilization in the r6 will help with the longer lens
@@jimmygrayphoto thank you
You totally sold me. I work with dogs a lot and I'm thinking this is the lens I upgrade to. I'm getting the R6 on Tuesday!!!
2 years later and you’re about to make me buy this lens
I'm currently debating between getting this lens and the RF 85 MM 1.2 (Which is my favorite EF lens) for my Canon R5, I don't know if the weight would bother me too much. I love the versatility of it though! If you could only afford either the RF 85mm or the RF 28-70MM which would you pick? Would love to see your review and comparison of of the RF 85 1.2. (85mm is also my favorite focal length
If you only can buy one for now... the rf28-70mm! Later add rf85mm!
I debated between the RF 28-70mm f/2L and the 85mm f/1.2L and decided on the RF 28-70mm f/2L and have no regrets using it on my R5 bodies.
But that's because I already have the 85mm f/2 macro IS, so although I do plan to upgrade my RF 85mm f/2 at some point it made more sense for me to get the RF 28-70mm f/2L.
My next lens will be the RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS and then I'll probably go with the (soon to be announced) RF 135mm f/1.4L because I don't like the new RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS design.
I think I would recommend the 28-70 at this point!
besides f2.0 i would go with the 24-70L RF.... in Canada the 28-70 is $3900 (ouch) vs $2999 for the 24-70. And is it worth the weight? Na But im sure it serves the purpose for someone. Great video !
I have one. It's Magical. Truly. It simply NAILS the shot.
Totally agree!!
Because of all the problems and poor results I'm getting on my R5 with my Tamron and Sigma lenses, I'm seriously considering getting this RF 28-70. My primes are 35, 50, 85, and 105. For most of what I shoot, I think this 28-70 could successfully replace at least the 35 and 50, and maybe even the 85.
Thanks for watching!!
buying this lens has been one fo the best decisions I have made when it comes to glass... never loved the 24-70 f2.8... I had it just to close the gap of the 16-35, to the 70-200.... Now when I travel I only take the 28-70 and 70-200.
Love it!
I am about to purchase R6 and just searching for the right lenses thanks for your honest review
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the great review.. You guys are so lucky in the states. The lens in Australia is nearly $5000. You really have to be earning good money as a professional photographer to justify such a mammoth cost like that. At this stage I’m about to look to purchase the RF 85mm.. But I cannot afford the red ring. Even the cheaper 85mm RF lens in Australia is $2000. But I am definitely going to save up for this lens based on your review because like you stated in your review it really is like shooting with a prime.
Some of the soft backgrounds while maintaining a sharp focal point was just incredible.
Well done. ✌🏻
Thanks for watching!! Yeah the conversion for Australia is rough.
Today was like christmas day! I received my R6 and boy am I glad I bought it. What an upgrade to my 5D mark III. My first RF lens will be the RF 28-70 f/2.0. Not sure when it will be delivered but I guess it would be a second christmas day feeling when it does. For now I'll do with the EF 24-70 and 70-200 using the adapter. Any lens recommendations for wide angle shots?
So exciting!!
Well, I've taken the first step to getting closer to an active hobbiest, I purchased the MacBook Pro! My first Mac! Twice the price I wanted to spend lol. I'll be ready for your courses soon!!!! With the 28-70,, do you find no image stabilizer a problem or is that more for video?
So excited to dive into photography! You inspired me to make it finally happen!!
This was so helpful and I would love to see more about your RF lenses! I have the R6 camera and RF 50mm lens. I am trying to decide which lens to buy next. Should I get the RF 85mm? Or RF 28-70mm?
Coming soon!
I have an RF 85mm f/2 as well as the 50mm f/1.2 for my R5. I rarely use the 85mm, lol, but it actually has a party trick up its sleeve, that it works as a semi-macro.
Battery Grip is essential for balance.
Was the first lens I bought with my eos r a year ago.
I now have an r5 as a primary and an R6 as my backup. 28-70 stays on the 5 70-200 stays on the 6 mostly. The grip helps soooo much!
Good point!
I support heavier lenses by using my left hand under the lens for support of the entire weight so I’ve never felt the need to add even more weight to the body with a battery grip.
I have the R6 with the RF28-70! Thank u for this video!
Welcome to the RF (28-70 + 85) L club. :) The 85 1.2 is hard to beat when you want to step below f2. Have you tried Leica Q2? it‘s slow but it feels REALLY nice.
The 85 review is next!
That is a BEASTY lens! Thanks for this great video! Something I'm worried about moving to the R6 is feeling the need to buy all new lenses instead of using the adaptor ring!
You can TOTALLY use the adapter and EF lenses and get amazing results. You do not need RF lenses to shoot professionally. This lens is just SO unique, nothing like this has ever existed from Canon before!
@@KatelynJames Thats so good to hear! Its just the niggling thought I'll have thinking "you should probably get RF lenses now" haha! I've only just bought the 50mm 1.2 and the 16-35, both EF. Terrible decision to make before then buying an R6 ha!
You have definitely sold me on this 28-70!
There’s one more RF mount magic lens... the 70-200 2.8L. I thought for sure I was going to get an 85 and 135 prime, but got the RF 70-200 2.8 instead. OMG. No, it’s doesn’t go down to 1.2, 1.4, or 2.0, but if you can step back just a little further and punch it out to 150-200 wide open... man... total magic. It’s also very good at 70-135. You could literally have just two lenses, the 28-70, and 70-200.
We keep hearing about it!
Awesome...I am saving my money for this...I bought my R6 recently. Thank you ...YOU are amazing.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!!
I rented this lens once and I felt like I was doing an arm workout all day 😅
FOR REAL!!! HAHA
So what you’re saying is it’s saving you money on the gym membership you don’t need? 😆
We have the same lense habit. This is so much helping. Thank you. but, having a hard time finding this lense
Happy to help! hope you get one soon!!
Great video! I have been entertaining the idea of ordering this lens since the RF 35mm L is taking so long to come out. How do you like the lens on the wider end, specifically 28mm-35mm?
It is amazing!
I have a Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 and am curious if the canon RF 50mm f/1.2 is significantly better? I'd love to see a video comparing the two!
Thanks for watching!
I have a question... I am retiring from my photography business as a sole business owner as I can't do photography like I used to do my Rheumatoid Arthritis. I have a Mark III and was thinking of selling my camera, yet I am afraid to sell it as my 20-year-old daughter said she might want to take up photography. My question is would it be better to just have her take over my camera to begin, Or be better off to sell my camera and start her on something less expensive. I am not familiar with the R6 so I don't know if it is more expensive than the Mark canons. Thank you!
I think giving her the Mark III would be a great place to start!
I recently pulled the trigger and upgraded from an RP to an R6, a large part due to your previous review of it. I am so glad I did, because It has been an absolute dream to use.
Now I just need to save up to buy a lens like this. I have been obsessed with fast zooms ever since I picked up a 18-35mm F1.8 and then later a 50-100mm f1.8 for my old crop sensor camera. But $3000 is just so much money for a lens, especially for someone who doesn't do this for a living. Honestly right now I am leaning more towards the 28-70 f2.8 as a compromise, but it's still fairly expensive. Part of me thinks if I'm already spending $2,300 what's another $700... But realistically $700 is still a lot of money.
Glad you're loving the R6! Yes it's a tough decision. The 24-70 is definitely not cheap by any means. It really comes down to how often you prefer to shoot at 2.0 and if it's worth the extra money for that additional stop of light!
Congrats on that lens! I see nothing but amazingness from every review I've seen...
I love it!