People complained that this arc was too short in the manga. I for one really liked that Jiren immediately eliminated like half of the contestants. He said from the start that he didn't want to be there and that he just wanted to protect his universe. It doesn't make any sense that he would waste 40 minutes meditating and only like 8 of them actually fighting
It's pretty obvious Jiren has a massive ego in the anime, he talks about his absolute strength as if he could solo everyone in the arena at the same time, when he is finally shown that his strength could be surpassed he immediately tried attacking innocent bystanders in a fit of rage. You can even see through the entire fight he always looks angry when someone genuinely thinks they have a chance at beating him. Jiren, in my opinion, has way more depth than people like to say he has, especially the anime where everyone thinks he is purely a wall Goku has to surpass.
MAN… I love it when goku and Vegeta are resulted in the only option to team up against outrageously strong opponents because it’s cool to know they’re both going all out.
You can tell Toyotaro just wanted this arc to be quick in the manga. While I disagree with people saying this fight is uninteresting, you can definitely feel how little passion was put into it compared to the anime’s ending.
@@AfterDarkk89394 okay seriously WHAT IS TAKING THE ANIME SO LONG? It had better be absolutely banging, episode 130 animation quality at least at this point. Yes I know animating one single episode can take literally years but I am so sick of waiting. I need to see Moro sense Goku’s instant transmission. I need to see Goku and Vegeta vs Gas. I NEED TO SEE MUI VS BEAST!
@@TurgoLBX2510 Pffffffffffft idk but tbf they are also working on other projects too and the working standard in Japan is extremely inhumanely high with low wage which is one of the many reasons on why its delayed
I really wish that they'd left the stuff about Jiren wanting his master's approval in the anime. It would have made 17's wish to revive the eliminated universes even more poignant.
@@tinytitan8807 He's not, in the anime he was a wall with no emotions, he was barely a character to be honest, probably one of the worst DB antagonists i have ever seen
@@vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 "A wall with no emotion"💀👀 Tell me your biased against the anime without telling me your biased against the anime💀just say you like reading pictures over watching animation and it's fine
@@tinytitan8807 Tell me what interesting scenes or character development Jiren had? 90% of The arc He was all about power above everything, then they show his backstory which is painfully mediocre and generic, then after few minutes fighting Goku He starts respecting him and changing his views that He had his entire Life? Garbage ass character, and you're not bringing any argument to convince of the contrary
While I love the anime version more, the manga version is a good description of vegeta’s character arc. He even points out jiren’s selfishness. I will say it, he is better characterized in the manga than the anime
In just this one scene, Jiren was given more characterisation than he ever got in the anime. I don’t get it. Is there really that little communication between the anime studio and the manga studio? Do they not share good ideas when they get them?
Anime was ahead of the manga. How it works is that Toriyama writes basic non detailed plot points and sends it to Toyotaro and Toei. They adapt it, and they fill in their own stuff.
I liked it when Interenstict Goku used the interest-hameha to make the fight a little more interesting. One of the most interesting moments of all time
I thought this arc in the anime was better presented on a visual level, but the manga’s version was better written, consistent, and characterized. Definitely
Definitely disagree writing wise. Anime has so much better and more of the better going for it. While manga definitely has good bits and additions that should be appreciated. it’s just overall awful with sheer amount of inconsistency, left out character, missed opportunities to the power scaling which is even worse than the anime. Kale just bulks up, fights blue goku and golden frieza. Proceeds to fuse and gets beat by gohan? Like that’s stupid. At least when kale doing something to blue goku in anime then fusion needed ultra instinct to make a joke of her. Honestly roshi getting ultra instinct like shit is just dumb, goku and vegeta in anime is at least hinted to be given the training from whis to harness or at least see if ultra instinct is possible or at least some version of it. Really just not great. Honestly I’m a just stop I don’t got the brain power to care anymore. It’s just very disappointing as there is so much good from manga but top is just very disappointing and I wish they could go back and expand it to not only be longer but actually give factions we see more proper justice. Anilaza getting one shot. Think lost stuff with namekians and piccolo. Just disappointing what it could have been.
Manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anime No stupid 20× power up for everyone out of nowhere because the power scale was messed up in the previous arcs, no weaklings staying alive for ages for no reasons at all , no characters going all out in each single fight and recovering their stamina in 5 seconds, no inconsticency between fights (Gohan getting wrecked by some random weak dude using the same technique he has known/seen for 20 years), etc
@@ashanims the Yardrat's power was not the issue, Gohan was not being overpowered in strenght but mostly by the insta-trasmission, a technique that even Frieza easily countered despite having faced it only in his duel against Goku during Resurrection of F Besides, even Frieza was in his base form but that was more than enough to dispose of the "Yardrat" while barely playing with him.
@@ashanims if he was stronger at the time then it was not by a huge margin, those 2 characters were more or less on the overall same tier in their base and final forms (note, same tier =/= equal strenght) Ignoring all the inconsistencies in powerscaling and power levels in the anime, especially in the ToP, it has been shown that Frieza "base" form is close to Goku base form (see Resurrection of F). Given that, after training, Gohan SSJ2 was more or less on par with Goku SSJ2 form (see their sparring match before the tournament where they went 100% serious) then Gohan base form = Goku base form = perfect Frieza his (or at least the 3 of them are in the same tier) Moroever, as already said, Frieza was toying with the Yardrat looking guy So even if base Gohan was weaker than base Frieza, he would still be stronger than that pityful level They just did Gohan dirty in that fight for no reason at all; he was supposed to be the brain of the group and they made him lose to someone he should have no issue countering in strenght and, especially, technique
@@amogus948 Frieza has most likely seen and dealt with the Yardrat's abilities before even Ressurection F', whereas Gohan knows of the technique and has seen it before, but does not know it's weaknesses or flaws. It's a lack of experience. I also wouldn't put too much fault on Gohan, seeing as he only started training again recently before the tournament. Even if he reached his peak potential, he didn't have his fighting spirit at its peak since he's been away from training/fighting for so long.
My God no wonder I hear no one talking about this version of the ending, if this was done by prime Toriyama it would have been 10 times better than even the anime
@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate yes but its talked about and gets a few pages. I hate recap movies manga. Its canon to manga thats all that matters. Broly is in every chapter
@@didistone8482 here Vegeta survived still the end (almost) and he violated Jiren with mere words. In Anime he only beat Toppo and was knocked much early.
@@didistone8482 yes. I assumed you are one of those people who will consider only their own arguments as valid. Guess I was wrong. Sorry if I bothered you.
Funny how people are saying this ending is better by defending everything other than the ending it self the story is good doesn't automatically mean the ending is. The ending is absolutely just an extremely toned down version of the anime
The anime made ultra instinct look anything but pure. Why is he going rage mode as Mui? That's like the total opposite of what Mui is. Now for anime only viewers they should see ultra instinct as a anger fueled form. The manga made Mui seem more angelic. As for the ending I didn't like the power of friendship and magic in the anime. Goku and freiza should not be a symbol of trust .. I'm glad they changed it to teamwork in the manga
@@WildFang39 Goku and Freezer weren't a symbol of trust, even if Jiren thought of it that way. It was a symbol of teamwork. A life or death situation. Either they work together or they died. That's exactly what Goku implied to Freezer. And the problem in the manga is that the scene was completely anticlimatic. There was no buildup at all and happened too fast. It was Jiren tossing Vegeta out, goku being almost tossed out, then freezer appears out of nowhere, blasts jiren and toss him out without almost a single word. The anime did the climax so much better no matter how you look at it, even if the rest of the arc was inferior in most ways
The manga is so much better overall. The anime is just dick sucking for goku to sell toys. Vegeta carried this fight, thats why jiren had to sneak knock him out
Except the very end. The climax in the manga sucked hard. The way Jiren is tossed out is anticlimatic and uninteresting. In the anime it was memorable.
The anime was a better presentation of this arc especially how Frieza and Goku teamed up to tackle jiren down out of the ring plus UI giving Jiren a run for his money
This arc is so much better in the anime. Fights were more interesting. Everyone is stronger, Jiren is stronger and was much more menacing. Ultra Instinct was much more powerful, more elusive, and much more hype and overall interesting. Honestly the manga was pretty ass up until Moro. Not that the anime was all the good either. Certainly better than the manga though.
I just discovered today that DBS is divided into anime-only and manga-only content that interprets Toriyama's given plotline individually. I mean now i understand why anime Super's artstyle and plot is so shit compared to the classic dragonball series.
Although the anime is more flashy and cooler looking, the anime did it all in a very corny way that made me lose interest in the arc. Flashy doesn't equal better. The manga did this arc better. Less time on corny characters that waste the viewers time like those knock off sailor moon girls, characters like kefla aren't soo powerful that UI is needed and instead having her be on level with gohan instead of goku channeling the power of plot, goku overall being a bit less corny than goku in the anime, and a far more realistic outcome where frieza and android 17 make a great plan to win the tournament. Frieza conserving his energy to trick jiren into leaving himself vulnerable by ramming into him in his golden form while 17 stays in the ring to win the tournament is far more interesting than goku and frieza bum rushing jiren while 17 just stands by spamming ki blasts. Ultra instinct is actually used in a better way in arc of the manga than in the anime. Instead of it being a cool transformation that proceeds to become the power of plot every time goku uses it like in the anime, its used properly in the manga. Well....until the moro arc. But that's a different issue on its own. Although the anime does make everything look cooler, it doesn't make it better. I definitely give props for the animation in the anime. Its definitely some of the best animation in modern day anime.
Terrible take but we're all subscribed to our own opinions. Anime ending is simply iconic to the franchise as a whole Edit: so is UI Goku vs kefla, even if Gohan is more fit for that battle
@@demonsdance9328what part about that take is terrible? Do you have any actual criticism or are you just mad because someone likes substance over flashiness?
I agree that the manga version of the arc is better but for different reasons, this arc is set up as a battle royale but how the anime played it; it was all universe vs universe 7. Krillin elimination works better in the manga because he is a warning to everyone that this isn’t a 1v1 scenario this is a battle royale where not being aware of your surroundings can get you taken out. The manga also reinforces something that people sadly take the wrong way, that goku lessons from other masters have never stick(heck Goku only trains instead of resting and playing which is Roshi first lesson). Roshi is there to reminds him of the fundamentals while Jiren is meant to be the ideal form of a martial artist. The big difference is that Jiren is meant to show a route that Goku is heading towards(example being the beginning end of z, just abandoning friends and family just to be the ideal martial artist)
This entire arc in the manga was a bumfest, I watched the anime first before ever reading the manga and when I finally did, the tournament of power in the manga is a complete bumfest, it’s a shit and boring arc with slightly better written characters compared to the anime, but the pacing is absolutely terrible, most side characters serve little to no significance to the development of this arc, its overall just terrible At least in the anime we got to see multiple perspectives and action from characters we haven’t seen in years, the pacing of the arc was also pretty good Kefla getting defeated by ultimate Gohan off all people is so anticlimactic, this whole thing was hot ass, luckily they redeemed super with the Moro and granolah arc, super woulda hit rock bottom if it didn’t
It's a battle royale with one hour time limit, obviously toyotaro can't focus on literally every single fighter, plus Jiren is actually a interesting antagonist, Gohan is a badass, kefla isn't annoying, Ultra Instinct's appearance were much better in terms of writing, not saying the anime's version is inferior, but saying this arc is just bad, is not true.
@@RealShrill that why you need to actually read the manga, Jiren only used enough power to match Roshi however Roshi mastery is above his after getting annoyed he used his regular power and one shot him, Roshi power level is still very weak as stated by one of the tropper literally saying he is ant like, you cant kill in the tournament for one and the other is you should not waste energy if you dont need to thats how Kefla became so weak that even Gohan beat her the reason was due to Kale already drained to almost 0% enough to be beaten by fodders. Jiren literally tells us that power you cant master is useless when Goku was trying to power up even further as he supposely needed more power before roshi told him what kind of nonsense you spouting did you learn that from Vegeta or Frieza. Master Roshi used a martial art technique similar to ultra isntinct in Wuxia is called the selfless or void state is when your mind is nulled of all information allowing for body to move as fast as possible because you arent thinking about useless stuff its inferior to ultra instinct which completely removes the brain link for dodging but still very strong in its own right. Vegeta in chapter 93 of the manga already gave us all we need to know, goku and Vegeta PL has been the same for a long time now the difference between them and Jiren is the Utilization of their own Power level, Saiyans have their power due to Transformation but in doing so but great burden and energy drain happens and more on their bodies meaning its impossible to use ki to their utmost limit, this was already a thing during the Tournament with Champa where using SSJB zapped Vegeta of all of his energy to the point his SSJB was 10x weaker than normal, Vegeta said he lacked something in comparison to Moro, Jiren and the others his power was not the issue the issue itself is that those guys all fight in base state meaning they can utilize their energy to 100% while Goku and Vegeta fight in a state where the body itself is put on severe burden and energy is multiplied.
This manga is so bad. This manga ruined my life. Why? Coz I know that Anime was far worse. I wish anime adaptation for this insane manga where Jiren and Vegeta are portrayed better. My life is now miserable because of this manga and now my only option is to be a Anime rider and bash the manga. 😭😭😭😂😂😂
The manga’s version of the Tournament of Power was trash. Just like how their version of Super Hero was trash and their version of the Tournament of Destroyers (Universe 6 & 7)
This arc up until the TOP started, did a lot of things better, but quickly derailed. I only like how the female Saiyans were done and Gohan taking on Kefla, even though the fight was sidelined. Everything else was done worse.
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People complained that this arc was too short in the manga. I for one really liked that Jiren immediately eliminated like half of the contestants. He said from the start that he didn't want to be there and that he just wanted to protect his universe. It doesn't make any sense that he would waste 40 minutes meditating and only like 8 of them actually fighting
It's pretty obvious Jiren has a massive ego in the anime, he talks about his absolute strength as if he could solo everyone in the arena at the same time, when he is finally shown that his strength could be surpassed he immediately tried attacking innocent bystanders in a fit of rage.
You can even see through the entire fight he always looks angry when someone genuinely thinks they have a chance at beating him.
Jiren, in my opinion, has way more depth than people like to say he has, especially the anime where everyone thinks he is purely a wall Goku has to surpass.
It wasn't too short, but reading it, you can definitely feel that it was rushed and that Toyotaro was trying to get it over with.
No it wasn’t Jiren it was Kale that wiped out the vast majority of them because she was raging like Broly. Jiren didn’t eliminate much.
Kale did it actually.
Actually it makes a lot of sense.
He would be holding his true power while his minions do the job, killing a lot of useless ppl
Vegeta should have been disqualified for violating the no kill rule. He fucking murdered Jiren without throwing a single attack
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@@truthspreader1996hes talking abt vegeta roasting the shit out of jiren
@@drkae3203 Oh......
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MAN… I love it when goku and Vegeta are resulted in the only option to team up against outrageously strong opponents because it’s cool to know they’re both going all out.
Same i love it
You can tell Toyotaro just wanted this arc to be quick in the manga. While I disagree with people saying this fight is uninteresting, you can definitely feel how little passion was put into it compared to the anime’s ending.
Tbf the manga is still ongoing whereas the anime is taking an extremely long break
@@AfterDarkk89394 okay seriously WHAT IS TAKING THE ANIME SO LONG? It had better be absolutely banging, episode 130 animation quality at least at this point. Yes I know animating one single episode can take literally years but I am so sick of waiting. I need to see Moro sense Goku’s instant transmission. I need to see Goku and Vegeta vs Gas. I NEED TO SEE MUI VS BEAST!
@@TurgoLBX2510 Pffffffffffft idk but tbf they are also working on other projects too and the working standard in Japan is extremely inhumanely high with low wage which is one of the many reasons on why its delayed
They made him rush it because of the Broly movie.
Fax, the Anime just felt like it had so much more to it, while in the Manga it was just a quick arc and onto the next
They almost gave jiren the raditz treatment 😂
I really wish that they'd left the stuff about Jiren wanting his master's approval in the anime. It would have made 17's wish to revive the eliminated universes even more poignant.
The anime came first
@pumpkintank8156 While still being poorly written inconsistent trash, manga always better.
Anime > Manga cry harder
@@DADRB0B55The anime TOP was so much better lmfao what are you on about
@@geox8485delusional animeturd fans lmfao
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I like the fact that Frieza, out of all resorted to teamplay! :-) makes my day!
Say what you will about the manga version, but it made Jiren an actual character.
but he was a character in the anime though😂
Gonna come on here and say he is even more of a Chad
@@tinytitan8807 He's not, in the anime he was a wall with no emotions, he was barely a character to be honest, probably one of the worst DB antagonists i have ever seen
@@vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 "A wall with no emotion"💀👀
Tell me your biased against the anime without telling me your biased against the anime💀just say you like reading pictures over watching animation and it's fine
@@tinytitan8807 Tell me what interesting scenes or character development Jiren had? 90% of The arc He was all about power above everything, then they show his backstory which is painfully mediocre and generic, then after few minutes fighting Goku He starts respecting him and changing his views that He had his entire Life? Garbage ass character, and you're not bringing any argument to convince of the contrary
Vegeta is savage as fuck.
Nah, he's too soft
I love his Speaches and his trash talk against His enemies
I like how the manga played it out. The anime felt like a dinsey movie with the power of friendship 🌈
I prefer the Anime Manga still cool
While I love the anime version more, the manga version is a good description of vegeta’s character arc. He even points out jiren’s selfishness. I will say it, he is better characterized in the manga than the anime
Sure but in the manga you don't get to hear to Vegetas speeches which are like, one of the best things dragon ball has to offer.
Agreed but he seems less Arragont in the Manga and more of a good Person/Fighter but i do like him in the Anime as well
In just this one scene, Jiren was given more characterisation than he ever got in the anime.
I don’t get it. Is there really that little communication between the anime studio and the manga studio? Do they not share good ideas when they get them?
Manga came after the anime
Anime was ahead of the manga. How it works is that Toriyama writes basic non detailed plot points and sends it to Toyotaro and Toei. They adapt it, and they fill in their own stuff.
I liked it when Interenstict Goku used the interest-hameha to make the fight a little more interesting. One of the most interesting moments of all time
I thought this arc in the anime was better presented on a visual level, but the manga’s version was better written, consistent, and characterized. Definitely
Definitely disagree writing wise. Anime has so much better and more of the better going for it. While manga definitely has good bits and additions that should be appreciated. it’s just overall awful with sheer amount of inconsistency, left out character, missed opportunities to the power scaling which is even worse than the anime. Kale just bulks up, fights blue goku and golden frieza. Proceeds to fuse and gets beat by gohan? Like that’s stupid. At least when kale doing something to blue goku in anime then fusion needed ultra instinct to make a joke of her. Honestly roshi getting ultra instinct like shit is just dumb, goku and vegeta in anime is at least hinted to be given the training from whis to harness or at least see if ultra instinct is possible or at least some version of it. Really just not great. Honestly I’m a just stop I don’t got the brain power to care anymore. It’s just very disappointing as there is so much good from manga but top is just very disappointing and I wish they could go back and expand it to not only be longer but actually give factions we see more proper justice. Anilaza getting one shot. Think lost stuff with namekians and piccolo. Just disappointing what it could have been.
@@Wolfbroa it makes sense but you have to think? Nah, every page its inconsistent
Both are good and have ups and downs
Manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anime
No stupid 20× power up for everyone out of nowhere because the power scale was messed up in the previous arcs, no weaklings staying alive for ages for no reasons at all , no characters going all out in each single fight and recovering their stamina in 5 seconds, no inconsticency between fights (Gohan getting wrecked by some random weak dude using the same technique he has known/seen for 20 years), etc
Tbf with that Gohan part, it was a base gohan trying to conserve his strength. 😅
@@ashanims the Yardrat's power was not the issue, Gohan was not being overpowered in strenght but mostly by the insta-trasmission, a technique that even Frieza easily countered despite having faced it only in his duel against Goku during Resurrection of F
Besides, even Frieza was in his base form but that was more than enough to dispose of the "Yardrat" while barely playing with him.
@@amogus948 I'd say Frieza's base form is stronger than Gohan's so it would make sense for him to be able to keep up and overpower the Yardrat.
@@ashanims if he was stronger at the time then it was not by a huge margin, those 2 characters were more or less on the overall same tier in their base and final forms (note, same tier =/= equal strenght)
Ignoring all the inconsistencies in powerscaling and power levels in the anime, especially in the ToP, it has been shown that Frieza "base" form is close to Goku base form (see Resurrection of F).
Given that, after training, Gohan SSJ2 was more or less on par with Goku SSJ2 form (see their sparring match before the tournament where they went 100% serious) then Gohan base form = Goku base form = perfect Frieza his (or at least the 3 of them are in the same tier)
Moroever, as already said, Frieza was toying with the Yardrat looking guy
So even if base Gohan was weaker than base Frieza, he would still be stronger than that pityful level
They just did Gohan dirty in that fight for no reason at all; he was supposed to be the brain of the group and they made him lose to someone he should have no issue countering in strenght and, especially, technique
@@amogus948 Frieza has most likely seen and dealt with the Yardrat's abilities before even Ressurection F', whereas Gohan knows of the technique and has seen it before, but does not know it's weaknesses or flaws. It's a lack of experience. I also wouldn't put too much fault on Gohan, seeing as he only started training again recently before the tournament. Even if he reached his peak potential, he didn't have his fighting spirit at its peak since he's been away from training/fighting for so long.
I like that unlike the anime, Jiren didn't break character. He remained cool and stoic, just like everyone wanted him to in the Anime...
Anime ending for the win definitely. Goosebumps all over.
In both the anime and manga they all struggled against Jiren, he was the strongest no doubt
My God no wonder I hear no one talking about this version of the ending, if this was done by prime Toriyama it would have been 10 times better than even the anime
The manga is better overall
@@IGiveHonestReviews The manga doesn't include DBS Broly therefore is pure coal
@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate um? Yes it does?
@@IGiveHonestReviews There is no manga adaptation of DBS Broly
@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate yes but its talked about and gets a few pages. I hate recap movies manga. Its canon to manga thats all that matters. Broly is in every chapter
Vegeta never used Gamma burst flash in anime. Sad
Ya cause it's just final flash
@@ultimatepikachu3106it’s a stronger version, sort of how the super kamehameha is a stronger variant than normal kamehameha
It looks ugly the way he bends his hands...
Matter of oppinion@@truthspreader1996
@@ultimatepikachu3106 Prove it, it's not stronger.
The anime had way more passion and epic scene compared to the manga
Vegeta and Jiren are better portrayed in Manga.
@@playmobilegamescodm Jiren, absolutely. Vegeta? Nah I disagree, he showed more motivation, heart, selflessness and depth in the anime.
@@didistone8482 here Vegeta survived still the end (almost) and he violated Jiren with mere words.
In Anime he only beat Toppo and was knocked much early.
@@playmobilegamescodm To each his own I guess
@@didistone8482 yes.
I assumed you are one of those people who will consider only their own arguments as valid.
Guess I was wrong. Sorry if I bothered you.
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Why did it seem like everyone is more nicer in the manga
Funny how people are saying this ending is better by defending everything other than the ending it self the story is good doesn't automatically mean the ending is. The ending is absolutely just an extremely toned down version of the anime
The anime made ultra instinct look anything but pure. Why is he going rage mode as Mui? That's like the total opposite of what Mui is. Now for anime only viewers they should see ultra instinct as a anger fueled form. The manga made Mui seem more angelic. As for the ending I didn't like the power of friendship and magic in the anime. Goku and freiza should not be a symbol of trust .. I'm glad they changed it to teamwork in the manga
@@WildFang39 Goku and Freezer weren't a symbol of trust, even if Jiren thought of it that way. It was a symbol of teamwork. A life or death situation. Either they work together or they died. That's exactly what Goku implied to Freezer. And the problem in the manga is that the scene was completely anticlimatic. There was no buildup at all and happened too fast. It was Jiren tossing Vegeta out, goku being almost tossed out, then freezer appears out of nowhere, blasts jiren and toss him out without almost a single word. The anime did the climax so much better no matter how you look at it, even if the rest of the arc was inferior in most ways
dayum that was interesting
Top but its actually in 40 minutes
The anime is better in my opinion but keep grinding bro💯💪🏾
anime has a gud ending while manga is ongoing tbf
L take
@@IGiveHonestReviews No W take
@@tinytitan8807 Uninstall yourself
Yeah I like how the show ended better
I wonder if this could be expanded if they put their minds at it
Dam.. jiren is an animal in the manga.. but the anime did them all justice!!!!!!! See what i did there?
So it basically kinda ended the same but really with more Frieza being Frieza and Vegeta lasting longer
Ended the same, just with the fight being completely different. Frieza and Goku in the anime felt more like an actual battle and final fight.
Jiren is my favorite character, he should've won the tournament but the plot armor was too strong
There was no plot armor.
Why is it not playing evanescence
never thought about it tbh
4:58 what.
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Thank you
In the anime is for kids manga is for real mans😈
Very good. Didn't need to be flashy either 😊
I liked this way better than the anime
why is the text from right to left?
Thats Manga for u
Japanese is written from right to left which is why most if not all mangas are written that way.
so much interesting going on in the comments well that is interesting.
Interesting indeed.
Man that was interesting
i still think vegeta should’ve won the tournament. Like let him get 1 MAJOR WIN PLS. and he couldn’t even keep his word like come on
What word?
@@jasonone8726His word to cabba
@@jasonone8726the promise to cabba
@@jasonone8726 he said he will win for cabba
@@Fazbearingtonthe3rd That was in the anime.
Why the hell they just simply used potara and ended the fight real quick??
Vegeta : "blah blah blah pride blah blah prince of all saiyans blah blah i would rather die than fighting along with kakarot." :DDDD
@arkk89394 didnt he learn his lesson when it comes to pride
Because they could potentially…both get knocked off at the same time
@@AfterDarkk89394😂
They had no Potara's to use. It would've been unsatisfying anyway.
3:49 Gyattt
I don't read the manga, but is Gamma Burst Flash a new move, or what he usually calls Final Flash in the manga?
i think its Final Flash and galick gun combined
Gamma Burst Flast was first shown the Goku Black arc manga. It's replaced the Final Flash in this version.
@DillonMeyer it is a new move.
Wow! that was really interesting.
Honestly I find the manga version better and it makes more sense to me power level wise
idc what yall say but i prefer the manga a lot better
Crazy how Toei’s adaptation was way better, when they usually have trash writing.
Wow, interesting to say the least…
Why cant they let Vegeta win? They seriously let 17 and Freeza win over Vegeta?
Unfortunately but at least Vegeta got some spotlight here fighting alongside goku and showing off new moves like gamma flash burst😔
@AfterDarkk89394 yeah, they just HAD to give Vegeta an L! Incredible!
17 Winning is definitely the main part of Toriyama's Napkin outline.
really.... that's interesting
I prefer this
This yall goat
The manga is so much better overall. The anime is just dick sucking for goku to sell toys. Vegeta carried this fight, thats why jiren had to sneak knock him out
Except the very end. The climax in the manga sucked hard. The way Jiren is tossed out is anticlimatic and uninteresting. In the anime it was memorable.
@@Hunter-u7q its ok to be wrong
The anime was a better presentation of this arc especially how Frieza and Goku teamed up to tackle jiren down out of the ring plus UI giving Jiren a run for his money
Doesnt audience know who is in and who is out because outed fighters join the audience?
So much better then the anime
Have to disagree there
Not even close.
me when i lie
Absolutely not
fuck no lmfao
This arc is so much better in the anime. Fights were more interesting. Everyone is stronger, Jiren is stronger and was much more menacing.
Ultra Instinct was much more powerful, more elusive, and much more hype and overall interesting.
Honestly the manga was pretty ass up until Moro.
Not that the anime was all the good either. Certainly better than the manga though.
black arc was x10 better than anime, and TOP overall was slightly better in the anime even tho had major flaws like infinite stamina and filler fights
This arc? Maybe, but the whole series until top? Sorry, but disagree, manga is more better
@@RagingBlazeBloodBaka I personally think the DBS manga is ass so I disagree. But it’s fine. It’s just a difference of opinion.
Idc what yall say the anime wins this one 🔥
I just discovered today that DBS is divided into anime-only and manga-only content that interprets Toriyama's given plotline individually. I mean now i understand why anime Super's artstyle and plot is so shit compared to the classic dragonball series.
Worse than that, the manga isnt much better since toyotaro is not that good at writing. Toryama chose him purely for his art, not his writing
Although the anime is more flashy and cooler looking, the anime did it all in a very corny way that made me lose interest in the arc. Flashy doesn't equal better.
The manga did this arc better. Less time on corny characters that waste the viewers time like those knock off sailor moon girls, characters like kefla aren't soo powerful that UI is needed and instead having her be on level with gohan instead of goku channeling the power of plot, goku overall being a bit less corny than goku in the anime, and a far more realistic outcome where frieza and android 17 make a great plan to win the tournament. Frieza conserving his energy to trick jiren into leaving himself vulnerable by ramming into him in his golden form while 17 stays in the ring to win the tournament is far more interesting than goku and frieza bum rushing jiren while 17 just stands by spamming ki blasts.
Ultra instinct is actually used in a better way in arc of the manga than in the anime. Instead of it being a cool transformation that proceeds to become the power of plot every time goku uses it like in the anime, its used properly in the manga. Well....until the moro arc. But that's a different issue on its own.
Although the anime does make everything look cooler, it doesn't make it better. I definitely give props for the animation in the anime. Its definitely some of the best animation in modern day anime.
Terrible take but we're all subscribed to our own opinions. Anime ending is simply iconic to the franchise as a whole
Edit: so is UI Goku vs kefla, even if Gohan is more fit for that battle
@demonsdance9328 I just ask what really makes the anime of this arc iconic? Besides the animation.
What a horrible opinion but you are entitled to it
@@demonsdance9328what part about that take is terrible? Do you have any actual criticism or are you just mad because someone likes substance over flashiness?
I agree that the manga version of the arc is better but for different reasons, this arc is set up as a battle royale but how the anime played it; it was all universe vs universe 7. Krillin elimination works better in the manga because he is a warning to everyone that this isn’t a 1v1 scenario this is a battle royale where not being aware of your surroundings can get you taken out.
The manga also reinforces something that people sadly take the wrong way, that goku lessons from other masters have never stick(heck Goku only trains instead of resting and playing which is Roshi first lesson). Roshi is there to reminds him of the fundamentals while Jiren is meant to be the ideal form of a martial artist. The big difference is that Jiren is meant to show a route that Goku is heading towards(example being the beginning end of z, just abandoning friends and family just to be the ideal martial artist)
Gyatt fhat was interesting.
This entire arc in the manga was a bumfest, I watched the anime first before ever reading the manga and when I finally did, the tournament of power in the manga is a complete bumfest, it’s a shit and boring arc with slightly better written characters compared to the anime, but the pacing is absolutely terrible, most side characters serve little to no significance to the development of this arc, its overall just terrible
At least in the anime we got to see multiple perspectives and action from characters we haven’t seen in years, the pacing of the arc was also pretty good
Kefla getting defeated by ultimate Gohan off all people is so anticlimactic, this whole thing was hot ass, luckily they redeemed super with the Moro and granolah arc, super woulda hit rock bottom if it didn’t
It's a battle royale with one hour time limit, obviously toyotaro can't focus on literally every single fighter, plus Jiren is actually a interesting antagonist, Gohan is a badass, kefla isn't annoying, Ultra Instinct's appearance were much better in terms of writing, not saying the anime's version is inferior, but saying this arc is just bad, is not true.
This make appreciate so much the anime.
This was so bad
This was much better
That wasn't interesting at all.
Better than the anime
@@ninjarld You can't be serious...
@@didistone8482 the manga corrected some things like kefla being able to contend with ui sign goku in the anime is ☠️☠️ levels of powerscaling
@@didistone8482 the manga corrected some things like kefla being able to contend with ui sign goku in the anime is ☠️☠️ levels of powerscaling
@@RealShrill that why you need to actually read the manga, Jiren only used enough power to match Roshi however Roshi mastery is above his after getting annoyed he used his regular power and one shot him, Roshi power level is still very weak as stated by one of the tropper literally saying he is ant like, you cant kill in the tournament for one and the other is you should not waste energy if you dont need to thats how Kefla became so weak that even Gohan beat her the reason was due to Kale already drained to almost 0% enough to be beaten by fodders.
Jiren literally tells us that power you cant master is useless when Goku was trying to power up even further as he supposely needed more power before roshi told him what kind of nonsense you spouting did you learn that from Vegeta or Frieza.
Master Roshi used a martial art technique similar to ultra isntinct in Wuxia is called the selfless or void state is when your mind is nulled of all information allowing for body to move as fast as possible because you arent thinking about useless stuff its inferior to ultra instinct which completely removes the brain link for dodging but still very strong in its own right.
Vegeta in chapter 93 of the manga already gave us all we need to know, goku and Vegeta PL has been the same for a long time now the difference between them and Jiren is the Utilization of their own Power level, Saiyans have their power due to Transformation but in doing so but great burden and energy drain happens and more on their bodies meaning its impossible to use ki to their utmost limit, this was already a thing during the Tournament with Champa where using SSJB zapped Vegeta of all of his energy to the point his SSJB was 10x weaker than normal, Vegeta said he lacked something in comparison to Moro, Jiren and the others his power was not the issue the issue itself is that those guys all fight in base state meaning they can utilize their energy to 100% while Goku and Vegeta fight in a state where the body itself is put on severe burden and energy is multiplied.
This manga is so bad.
This manga ruined my life.
Why?
Coz I know that Anime was far worse.
I wish anime adaptation for this insane manga where Jiren and Vegeta are portrayed better.
My life is now miserable because of this manga and now my only option is to be a Anime rider and bash the manga. 😭😭😭😂😂😂
The manga’s version of the Tournament of Power was trash. Just like how their version of Super Hero was trash and their version of the Tournament of Destroyers (Universe 6 & 7)
Huh? The Superhero manga version improved on the movie. 😂
You Only know the word trash? That's just sad
The anime had a much better ending, I think the db anime is better than the manga anyway
Anime ended off tbf
Manga still ongoing
Anime way better especially how vegeta got eliminated
Yeah, it was lame, but at least he didn't get beaten up. 😂
Ay for all the things manga does better, I think this isn’t one of them…
This arc up until the TOP started, did a lot of things better, but quickly derailed. I only like how the female Saiyans were done and Gohan taking on Kefla, even though the fight was sidelined. Everything else was done worse.
So bad. Wow. It's actually insane
So Jiren is a weakling in the manga............go figure.
Well that was anticlimactic manga only scrubs really be hyping this trash up more than the anime? 😂
This arc is a gigantic bore for the most part. Anime version craps all over it
Don't like it
Anime was better