J-20 China's Answer to the F-22
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- In the 1990s, the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force was looking for a new fifth gen fighter. During the early 2000s a competition was run, known in the West as the F-XX program. The winner of this program was Chengdu, who’s design - the J-20 Mighty Dragon - is now widely recognised as China’s preeminent air superiority fighter. Today, we take a closer look at the design.
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The one thing I have noticed about the Chinese military is that if they are willing to show their new hardware to you on their CCTV channel or Chinese military documentary or even up close, meaning they have already moved on and is in the process of developing their next generation hardware or whatever projects that will surpass the current hardware. Based on how much money the PLA is putting into the R&D, highly likely multiple projects is in the making.
as if that's not true for every other military hardware developer?
@@high-captain-BaLrog China normally play close to the chest, keeping almost everything a state secret, not very transparent about their military projects. Due to everyone having a phone these days, it also become harder for the Chinese to keep everything hidden. Unlike most other nations where the state often disclose limited information of their hardware to their parliament. I think this is just how things work in China I guess. Even thought the public already know about the J-20 project, the Chinese government took a long time to admitting having such a project and the deployment of J-20 also took 2 more years where the PLA has already deployed them.
@@high-captain-BaLrogZumwult be like 👁️👄👁️
@@NightPhoenix.Y hehehe
@@high-captain-BaLrog hehehehehe😊
Although I have watched too many videos on UA-cam about aviation and aircraft but again and again I come to this channel to hear the cool Aussei ascent as well as watch aviation
the narrator has an english accent not australian
This one is English but we have others with an Aussie narrator and of course we have Australian interviews, walk around videos, etc.
Its probably the voice then. But I love this channel, the explanations are great
Americans overhype on low RCS stealth when modern sensors are all passive thermal & laser range-finder with imaging hardware. These can spot & track stealth from up to 70km away on modern EU sensors, and China has even more advanced variants with classified capabilities.
The JF 17 is not better than the J 10 and it is not an equivalent to the F-16 the JF 17 is like the griffin jet from Sweden and the J-10 is like the F-16
And when I say the JF 17 is like the griffin I mean it’s like a budget version It’s almost certain that even though the griffin is a similar weight class to the JF 17 it has better sensor systems
Indeed, so many mistakes in this. One other that that stands out is that DSI is part of the plane in the very first prototype in 2011 rather than something that added later like the video is claiming. I feel his video seems to be summaries of what's on wikipedia and googling without much cross checking and verification. This make fact check when there is no authoritative source and language barrier every difficult.
@@jazz.560 jf 17 is not even better than tejas mk1a
@@shoto3612I mean, one of the aircraft actually exists, so there is that.
Half of the sqadren is down and it is equivalent to tejas 😂
J20 is much better....
Unrelated but it's funny how the PLA mistranslation of 'armed forces' as 'army' has led to the People's Liberation Army Air Force and People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force, with marines deployed via carrier being presumably known as the ridiculous PLANAFA - People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force Army
Correct about the translation of "jun" (军), which originally meant army thousands of years ago but has the meaning "military" in PLA. But people also forget how most air forces started as army corps or branches, for example the USAF at one point was the United States ARMY Air Force (USAAF).
@@DanboShawHe didn't talk about any Chinese words or any "Chinese historical claim" from thousand or million years ago. He talks about English, how the Chinese military uses the English word "Army" in the wrong place.
And your example is incorrect too. USAAF was literally the component of the US Army. That's why it has "Army" in the name.
While the PLA (People's Liberation Army) is not the component of the Army, it's the opposite. PLA is the umbrella of PLA Army (People's Liberation Army Army), PLA Navy (People's Liberation Army Navy), and PLA Air Force (People's Liberation Army Air Force). These are the most f**ked up English I've ever seen.
It should be "Chinese Armed Forces" or "Chinese Military" or "People's Liberation Military" or anything but not People's Liberation Army. 😂
@@nobodyjustme7481 No one here is talking about "historical claims", we are talking about how the English names for China's armed forces were translated.
@@DanboShaw Lol. Your comment is still there, you talking about your historical Chinese word thousand years ago when no one talked about it. He talks about the English word "Army", where "Army" is not an accurate word to replace "Armed Forces".
Look again into dictionary, Army means the BRANCH of a nation's armed services that conducts military operations on LAND!
That's why:
US Armed Forces = correct!
Japan Self-Defense Forces = correct!
Republic of Korea Armed Forces = correct!
Indonesian National Armed Forces= correct!
People's Liberation Army = WRONG! 😂
@@nobodyjustme7481 I referred to the Chinese word JUN because that is the word in the Chinese name for the PLA, Zhongguo Renmin Jiefang JUN, that is mistranslated as "army" in People's Liberation Army, when it really should be People's Liberation Military or Armed Forces. If you read my comment as an elaboration on the original poster's comment it should have been clear that I was agreeing with it. In other words, you've been arguing when there is no disagreement.
I wish your videos were longer, especially for videos like this about flagship military hardware
They'll depend on the amount of info
Correction, the thermal sensors are not inspired by F-35. It is in fact a Soviet focus, whilst the Americans dropped it and went with active radar. It has only been a decade since US re-focus back on thermal sensors because they got wrecked in F-22 and F-35 duels vs French fighter jets with thermal sensors. US stealth was bypassed easily it shocked the US airforce into action. Hence, Raytheon developed thermal sensor pods for upgrading F-16, F-15 and F-18s, and the design of F-35 incorporates thermal sensors finally. China has very advanced thermal sensors, more more than EU/US because they have been specializing in it from Soviet era.
😊 thank you for your insight
This is nothing to do with the F-22. It only has to be better than the Taiwan F-16s. If and when China decides to re-unify Taiwan, as with Ukraine and Russia, it is unlikely that the US will intervene directly other than put several battalions of Marines on the island to assist with the ground war. This means that the primary opponent to the J-20 will be the F-16. The Chinese are not really interested in attacking the US and don't really care if the J-20 is not at parity to the F-22 or F-35. The J-20 will likely never face US planes in wide scale combat. The financial damage that such a war would have to the US would be insurmountable. Taiwan it not worth direct US involvement, other putting a 3 or 4 MEUs ashore. Clearly the Marines have been redesigning for this purpose for the last 5 years.
Nicely done video, I really wanted to love it and subscribe. But with errors.
Why don't you list the errors? I'm sick of people just saying 'there's errors' but never quantify what those errors are - for the most part they are differing opinions!
J10系列 規格高於 > JF-17 (FC-20)
J20 航電 雷達 EO 有一定水準
匿蹤的話 正面 其餘角度滿迷的 尤其改變前翼舵角時
發動機也滿迷的 WS-15
AL-41F的技術這麼容易就到手了嗎?
al-41f毛子自己都没搞定就被中国虚空偷技术是吧？中国有这能力美国人知道吗😂
某些人终究还是不会信中国可以自研，中国为了发动机研制统筹成立了中国航发集团，WS15这个项目起码进行10多年了，现在开花结果很正常
叫醒他们干啥。@@adassdawdad
The biggest problem for Westerners is the habit of using a few images and lenses to peek into the whole of China, which has led to serious deviations or even complete errors in Westerners' understanding of China. These are actually not the most terrifying. What is frightening is that the sense of superiority established by Westerners since the Industrial Revolution makes them choose to ignore objective facts, subconsciously feeling that they will always stand on the high ground of truth, although sometimes it may seem ridiculous.
这不是因为优越感才选择这么做的，西方很早就理解并把媒体当做武器进行运用，只要媒体宣传一下敌人或者看不顺眼的国家就会发生内乱和动荡，简单而且绝对的低成本，而且被针对的国家根本没渠道申辩，对于掌握全球媒体霸权的美国而言没理由不去使用。中国一直到64的时候才真正意识到有多恐怖，之后才会有90年代国内异常严格的媒体审查制度。但是事务也有两面性，中国90年代后的发展一部分也真要感谢西方媒体，他们孜孜不倦的骗自己老百姓，特别是中国崩溃论和福山的历史终结论，天天宣传中国马上要自己崩了，等着对手自己崩了就行，还搞什么别的针对。同时自己的体制都终结历史了，还改进啥，然后天天不思进取吃老本。然后中国发展到今天这个地步更加不敢宣传了，让老百姓知道中国原来是这样的还不得全去造反，所以无论媒体服务的对象就是国家的统治阶级，新闻无国界，但是记者有国籍。
@@Allen-dh9zs 这就是舆论霸权的可怕之处 他可以轻而易举打破一个国家的正确决策 而不费一枪一弹 中国是唯一一个在全领域挑战美国的国家
Some source for the idea that JF-17 is somehow better than the J-10? Because to me it sounds like a complete nonsense.
JF17 block3 is for sure better than J10 block1.
@@jurajkolnik7335 I believe it's down to how initial block 1 versions had western avionics on the aircraft that made it comparable to the J-10.
Could you please provide subtitles for this video? Thanks. Generated by UA-cam seems not good.
You are kidding right? We spend a lot of time getting the Closed Captions right - if there's an error, let us know.
@@raafdocumentaries Absolutely no, man. ua-cam.com/video/rMB3E13L4C0/v-deo.html ### I mean the video is good, if you can provide subtitles like last, it will be better.
@@raafdocumentariesmaybe he/she is asking for Chinese subtitles 😂
1:59 The JF-17 was not "leaps and bounds" ahead of the J10. The JF-17 was primarily made to be cheap and for the export market, primarily as a joint venture with Pakistan. It's why the PLAAF doesn't use the JF-17 themselves. Pakistan has also purchased the export variant of the J10C which it also largely regards as an upgrade to the JF-17. The JF-17 is designed to be fast , light and most importantly CHEAP to both manufacture and to maintain so that it can be attractive to developing countries. But it lacks the range and payload capacity of the J10 which is why the JF-17 was never adopted by the PLAAF.
JF17 is meant to be the compliment to Pakistani F16. The requirements are, close to F16 effectiveness, cost of mig21, and can be produced by Pakistan locally. Seemingly impossible mission accomplished in around 30 years after numerous changes to requirements. Collaboration partners include all 5 permanent UNSC members. The customer even dropped out once , which almost killed the project. And yet it finally delivered and exceeded expectations. The story is much more interesting than that of the J20s.
But the aircraft is meant to be as cheap as possible not like J10 which goes toe to toe against F16 in performance.
Other than the fact that it doesn't approach 30nyear old F-16 performance, sure. The -17 is a good bird for the money, but it's more like an F-5E in overall aerdynamic performance than an F-16... which lines up with the price more akin to what a modern F-5 would cost.
JF-17: Mach 1.6, combat *range* 900km on internal fuel (with unstated external stores or flight profile), 8x hard points for a total of 8 tons of external stores (including fuel AND missiles or bombs)
F-16: Mach 2, 11 hard points for up to 7.7 tons of external stores. With a combat *radius* in typical air to air configuration of over 900km - note that combat radius is, by definition.
@@geodkyt the airframe, maybe. But even F16 receives upgrade constantly and the F16V is very different than F16A.
The JF17 block III has avionics close to that of the J10s, DSI inlet and can use a large number of air to air and air to ground munitions. You can hardly find anything else in the market with these. In modern air conflicts the results are more and more up to avionics and the missiles. If F5E could shoot AIM120D it would be great value for money, too.
Also for the potential customers it's not just capabilities and unit cost, running costs are important, too. PLAAF is even phasing out the J10s while it is considered highend by Pakistan. Therefore this modernized F5E still makes quite a lot of sense today.
@@user-gc9yh2ic4q it's just not a competitor. Inferior speed, agility, stores, avionics, etc. there's not single item where the JF-17 outmatches current block F-16s
It seems that another type of J20 is being prepared as an accompanying aerial drone, because the Chinese military media has published sea drones on its warships, where the sea drones were tested to form various formations on Chinese warships...
Is Ahoy narrating this?
Modernized J-20B Dragon better then F-22 Raptor, Raptor's Time is Over... cannot accept by US but its FACT.
7th comment down and already found the 🤡
@@StikkzzNo doubt commenting from a bot farm in West Taiwan 😂
@@Stikkzz you’re the clown kid. If you don’t see truth. You can only improve if you realize that you’re falling behind
It took them 28 years before their WS-15 engine became acceptable to their air force just like it took Indians 30 plus years to design and build their Tjas and their tanks.
answer : "hello..."
是的，j-20根本不是一架飞机，它主要由“爱”和“想象力”以及些许的巧克力组成，所以大可不用担心
You mean tofu
@zxt5148 Why do you want to use something unique to China? Don't you have the words?
@@user-ce6el8tt6e building things out of tofu is unique to China.
The f-22 has been discontinued and the j20 will be updated continuously.
Source material for this airframe is nothing but a guess.
Good content, as always, ignore those cry baby comment from who knows where ..
u got ur facts all wrong . . . the JF-17 is in no way better than the J-10E not even close . . . the JF-17 is plagued by problems & flawed design since it's very inception . . . current JF-17 operators are having a hard time operating the JF-17 due to it's appalling unreliability . . . whereas the J-10E (Block III) multi role air dominance fighter is on a whole new level altogether . . . it'd be wise to retire the JF-17 airframe for good & replace it with J-10E . . . the Chengdu J-20B stealth multi role interdictor strike fighter will eventually replace the Shenyang J-11B multi role air superiority fighter . . . due to limited space inside the J-20s internal weapons bay it won't be able to accommodate large air-to-surface missiles & guided munitions . . . word is that a navalized carrier borne Chengdu J-20M stealth multi role fighter interceptor is in the works . . . it'll feature folding wings & reinforced airframe for daunting carrier operations . . . it'll be powered by (112 kN) WS-15 afterburning turbofan engines . . . the carrier borne J-20M will operate from Type 03 & Type 04 class stealth (CATOBAR) aircraft carrier . . .
👍👍👍
The J-10 shi ts on the JF-17 😂
Sorry, the answer is incorrect.
Watching from a country in East Africa, that wants Ruto gone.
@@vickomen3697 saws
Sawa
Why people always think it's F22 Vs J20 or J10 Vs F16. Guys, it's F22 Vs the contested airspace which may include the J20, surface to air missiles, early warning radars and so many other factors. US has been developing their planes for ages. Has lots of data on what the environment will be like. What does China have? Have they ever been in a war in this recently? J20 looks stealthy, maybe even fly stealthy but can it handle a contested airspace is a tale that no one can tell unless there is a war. Then there is the factor of squadron and tactics all adding dimensions to the play. US conducts regular exercises with AF of other nations honing their own skills while learning from others. Can anyone compare the electronic warfare suites of these planes? Yes they made the damn planes. That's not all that goes into something that can get the job done.
The Chinese have 6 thousand years of military experience fighting in wars and peace, while western monkeys were still poking their butts in caves, fact is many military books were written by the Chinese, so yeah US has no chance of winning against the US none whatsoever 😂
@@okb_v1 Very good point
Nice cope
Lol when the us entered their first war with an airforce they were the most succesful without any succes.war experience dies with the veterans
Usa does not have any experience contesting a peer competitor in a disputed airspace, let alone one where they are completely at a disadvantage, like having to fight vs multiple layers of Chinese radars and anti air missiles just off their coast.
2:00 "The JF-17 a fighter leaps and bounds ahead of the J-10" Aaaaand I'm done...
I think he meant better than J-10
@@MossadDid911 And that's exactly the issue.
The JF-17 a light fighter, meant to be cheap and easier to produce by Pakistan, still pretty much a MiG-21/J-7 family member.
The J-10 meanwhile is an older domestic program, it's better in many dimensions but indeed received DSI later (due to being older) and by western standard isn't as "good" as the JF-17, because the JF-17 electronics and ergonomics were designed for a force already used to operate the F-16, while the J-10 was designed for a force with a very different modus operandi and training.
While it would be false to say the J-10 is better than the JF-17, it's even more false to claim the JF-17 is more advanced than the J-10, or that it was intended to replace it.
@@ethancampbell2422 sorry I meant J-7
@@MossadDid911 In that case, without a doubt indeed.
Chengdu j20 mighty dragon
Not a bad looking jet, shouldn't be taken lightly.
Haven’t you ever noticed that ANYTHING made in China LOOKS good, but never is?!?
@@mikestewart4752 Oh yeah. But, that's an easy mindset to get caught up in.
@@mikestewart4752 Go ahead, take them as fkn stoopid... good luck.
@@wildhareonthegulfofmexico3539 I understand what you’re saying for sure. 👍
@@mikestewart4752 Right on, no doubt..
Lego f35…..
1. More and more people are comparing J20 with F22, which is the biggest compliment to J20.
2. F22 has no experience in fighting J20, neither the United States nor China.
Because it's china's top fighter. That's all. It has orders of magnitude greater RCS than the F-22, while being less maneuverable, and with inferior engine and avionics
@@Shadowboost F22如果有优势，美国空军会把它的生产线都停了吗？事实上美国人最好的飞机是F35。
@@chaoschaos4286 F35只有在电子通信，和传感器上对比F22有优势，其它不行
J20>F22>F35>J35>SU57>J16>EVERYTHING ELSE
Hahahaha. Tell me you are Chinese without saying you are Chinese.
@@alihanaydogdu6158同样是中国人赞同这个排序。让你们睁开眼接受事实是一个漫长的过程，很高兴正在发生。
@@Fairtrade911 Copy Libration Army
Their is a 3rd party radar scattering CAD simulation done on Aircraft 101. Without RAM coatings, they compared all 3 F-35, J-20, and Su-57 low observable LO characteristics through their shapes/geometry alone.
In a 20x20deg frontal aspect, "J-20 RCS is higher than F-35A RCS through the frequency range (approximately 3.5 times in X-band, 1.5 times in VHF band), it still has much better RCS characteristic when compared to Su-57.”
So in geometry alone without the RAM coatings, a 3.5 times difference would translate to 37% difference in detection range in the X-band which is pretty significant. Even with RAM coatings of the same level used on F-35 or F-22, J-20 is still less stealthy by 37%. But obviously their will still be a substantial difference in RAM coatings. So F-35 definitely has the “first look, first shoot, first kill” and even a 2nd shot in beyond visual range BVR.
So its F35C>F22>F35A>F35B>J20>SU57>F15>EVERYTHING ELSE
@@johnsilver9338 真的无语了，多看点公开资料，J20的表面隐身同时用了三种不同技术，这个是在媒体公开介绍过的。比F22 35随时需要刮腻子强太多了。
另外F35就不要吹隐身了，它就是一架无限妥协的飞机，发动机妥协，外形妥协，升级空间受到大量制约。比如升级大功率相控阵雷达居然会面临电力不够的尴尬局面😂😂😂😂
最后随着美国和中国的脱钩，🇺🇸的军备妥善率直线下降，原来美国总说用了中国的零件出的问题，现在不用中国的零件了，F35不是掉海，就是断腿. 已经是帝国的黄昏了
Is it a real stealth aircraft or fake?
no one has data on any stealth planes to prove it.... otherwise that someone will be in prison
Their is a 3rd party radar scattering CAD simulation done on Aircraft 101. Without RAM coatings, they compared all 3 F-35, J-20, and Su-57 low observable LO characteristics through their shapes/geometry alone.
In a 20x20deg frontal aspect, "J-20 RCS is higher than F-35A RCS through the frequency range (approximately 3.5 times in X-band, 1.5 times in VHF band), it still has much better RCS characteristic when compared to Su-57.”
So in geometry alone without the RAM coatings, a 3.5 times difference would translate to 37% difference in detection range in the X-band which is pretty significant. Even with RAM coatings of the same level used on F-35 or F-22, J-20 is still less stealthy by 37%. But obviously their will still be a substantial difference in RAM coatings. So F-35 definitely has the “first look, first shoot, first kill” and even a 2nd shot in beyond visual range BVR.
@@johnsilver9338
Su-57 is not a stealthy aircraft.
Also the stealth characteristics of the F-35 is way more than it's shape. It composite material construction reflects very little radar and it's radar absorbent paint material attenuates radar signals.
1:49 wait what is this?
an early 2000s photoshop job that fooled a lot of people (even to this day it seems).
@@WangGanChang almost wyvern like
@@skij99 AC！
The can’t produce a good afterburner engine but we are suppose to believe it has super cruise? hahaha
@@markever234 read up on the “WS-15” power plant, please. 💔
@@jason_sleekIt will take them to WS-3,482 before they make one that doesn’t melt. The Chinesium is shabby beyond belief. 🤦
@@mikestewart4752 keep living in the stone ages
Chinese engines lack longevity yes, but not thrust - Their latest WS15 low bypass engines perform just short of medium bypass F135's
@@isaacomole9527 I guess we will see 👍💀
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plastic tennis court
J20🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪🇨🇳💪
LOL
it's a swedish design, flygsystem 2020, the chinese stle our designs
china steals it so you dont hv it. get it!
Lol
looks awesome
It looks like a copy of the Mig 144, even the specifications are similar.
It is not China's answer to the F-22. That thing is a long range interceptor designed to get close enough to US aerial tankers and command and control aircraft and hit them with very long range air to air missiles. It handles like a pig but it does not need to be maneuverable for its mission. It isn't very stealthy but betting than most 4th gen aircraft.
At the most I put it in the category with the ex maybe👎
Name a single source that lists that as being the J-20s purpose. It is officially classed as a multi-role fighter.
@@voidtempering8700 I can't really tell you that.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 I know, because that is not what it was designed for. It can fulfill that purpose if their is a reason to, because it is multi-role air superiority fighter.
nor is the F22 it haven't seen war just ballons
all the image and videos were fake. no use at all, keep laughing
That thing is lwhat you get when you order an F-22 from Temu. It doesn't work.
The new best fighter in the world
The J20 could fly circles around a F22 but not likely it would get close to it because it would blast the F22 out of the sky with its ultra long range hypersonic missiles .
The F22 pilot wouldn’t know what hit him
Yeah right. Most likely it would blow up itself before the F22 would come close.
You can't shoot down what you can't see. F-22 RCS when it is configured for contested airspace is literally the size of a bumblebee, and the stealth performance is biased towards the higher frequencies *necessary* for a fire control lock.
And before people pop in with it - it is *publicly admitted* by the USAF that F-22 and F-35 aircraft flying in peacetime areas, or even "non contested airspace" combat missions, routinely fly with radar *augmentors* installed, so that search radars can actually *see* them for traffic control. We have not yet deployed either bird to a high threat contested airspace, which means the only folks who have seen them in their "wartime" RCS configuration are friendly allied forces (amd not even all of them, becayse we often fly our fighters handicapped in joint exercises because it's better training for *our* pilots to not have all their usual advantages).
The J-20 has a much larger RCS, primarily because if the canards (canards which are only required because Cheng-du can't make it stable without them, because they don't have the experience and skill with dynamically unstable, computer controlled aircraft).
The ranges claimed by Chinese long range air to air missiles is:
A. Marketing hype, unverified by anyone else. And, much as other customers of Chinese military hardware, almost certainly don't represent reality.
B. Even if they weren't exaggerated, represent a purely *theoretical* range that assumes a perfect interceot setup where the target is solidly locked up (see above for RCS). In other words, even if the ranges are true, they represent something asking to being able to down a civilian airliner or a military transport flying completely clueless.
In contrast, the USAF (especially since the AIM-4 and early AIM-7 in Vietnam) routinely *understates* missile performance, and the AIM-120D has been *in active service* for ten years now, with an *admitted* live fire tested range in excess of 100 miles against a "non compliant target" (probably something like a QF-16 being flown by a drone operator... note in US service, these exercises generally involve a bet of a case of beer between the drone crews and the air crews, just to encourage maximum effort all around).
No notes on whether AIM-174 (an air launched SM-6 missile) is going to be approved for F-22, but in air launched mode it is quite capable of "well in excess of 200 miles", and the holistic engagement system the Navy developed for.it as the SM-6 means you don't actually need a fire control radar lock to shoot *just as accurately* - it can use fused sensor data where NONE of it approaches "fire control quality" to create a synthetic lock... that doesn't even register as a fire control lock on the target (because there is no radar lock on the target until the missile is in terminal mode). Oh, and it is capable of termianlnintercept of ballistic missiles moving at hypersonic speeds... because the US Navy has shot down exactly those types of targets (in fact, they've shot dowm exoatmospheric ballistic missiles in their terminal hypersonic phase). It would, however, have to be carried externally or on a "missile truck" platform like an F-18E or F-15EX.
The AIM-260 is reportedly already in production, is about the size of the AIM-120D with apparently twice the range (becayse the USAF doubled the range safety standoffs in NOTAMs for AIM-260 firings, as opposed to AIM-120D firings), and fits inside the F-22 weapons bay (which was a mandatory requirement). It is expected to replace the AIM-120D entirely in US service in the next few years.
This isn't Ace Combat or DCS, bro. Keep dreaming
Their is a 3rd party radar scattering CAD simulation done on Aircraft 101. Without RAM coatings, they compared all 3 F-35, J-20, and Su-57 low observable LO characteristics through their shapes/geometry alone.
In a 20x20deg frontal aspect, "J-20 RCS is higher than F-35A RCS through the frequency range (approximately 3.5 times in X-band, 1.5 times in VHF band), it still has much better RCS characteristic when compared to Su-57.”
So in geometry alone without the RAM coatings, a 3.5 times difference would translate to 37% difference in detection range in the X-band which is pretty significant. Even with RAM coatings of the same level used on F-35 or F-22, J-20 is still less stealthy by 37%. But obviously their will still be a substantial difference in RAM coatings. So F-35 much more F-22 definitely has the “first look, first shoot, first kill” and even a 2nd shot in beyond visual range BVR.
reminds me like UK empire changed to US empire. now China
Mikoyan Project 1.44 is the J- 20.
MIG sold the blueprints to China after Mig lost the Stealth fighter competition to the Sukhoi Bureau which the result was Su -57 .Mig Bureau sold the “Mikoyan 1.44” to the Chinese and they remodelled getting the J-20
@@ARSAMES007 Absolutely not.
Mikoyan refutes that..
@@ARSAMES007 nonsense. It doesnt even look alike. Engine intakes are different. Only thing similar is the canards.
Wala Namang ibubuga yan SA F-22 YAN NG AMERIKA syaka walang experience Yang j-20 ng china
J-20 is NOT even as stealthy as F-35.
The J20's outrages the F35 range all the best for the pilots of the F35 trying to find the J20 be4 getting blown out of the skies 😂
@@stuartemmanuel3735 Having more range doesn't make J-20 stealthy at all. F-35 much more F-22 will always find it first and shoot it down.
j 20 is ass. f35 is a light year ahead
Western people think they are superior then other eastern countrys 😂 all the best
Yeah keep believing the western news lol 😂😂
J20>J35>F22>F35
Their is a 3rd party radar scattering CAD simulation done on Aircraft 101. Without RAM coatings, they compared all 3 F-35, J-20, and Su-57 low observable LO characteristics through their shapes/geometry alone.
In a 20x20deg frontal aspect, "J-20 RCS is higher than F-35A RCS through the frequency range (approximately 3.5 times in X-band, 1.5 times in VHF band), it still has much better RCS characteristic when compared to Su-57.”
So in geometry alone without the RAM coatings, a 3.5 times difference would translate to 37% difference in detection range in the X-band which is pretty significant. Even with RAM coatings of the same level used on F-35 or F-22, J-20 is still less stealthy by 37%. But obviously their will still be a substantial difference in RAM coatings. So F-35 definitely has the “first look, first shoot, first kill” and even a 2nd shot in beyond visual range BVR.
So its F35C>F22>F35A>F35B>J20>SU57
@@johnsilver9338J35在竞标中输给了J20,中国有足够的专家去判断哪种气动布局更出色。另外，J20有双座版本，它可以指挥更多的隐身无人机协同作战。
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Its basically an old Russian design that Russia didn't want. Beyond that, China's Achilles heel (as was Japan's) is its lack of native Iron and Oil. During a long term conflict, China's dependance on 3rd parties such as Russia, could well back fire. Especially when considering that Russia is anything but a stable and reliable world partner.
China actually does have oil and used to export it before it became a giant manufacturing base. It's one of the reasons why Japan invaded China in WWII. In fact Chain ranks no. 6 in the world in terms of oil production. The issue is it ranks no.2 in the world in terms of oil consumption so it consumes more than it produces so it has to import even more, but if a conflict were the arise, oil production would almost certainly be prioritised towards military use.
@@DairyCat And that was my point... China uses far more oil and iron than it can locally produce. Hence any invasion of Taiwan or conflict with other world powers will see China's economy and military get squeezed. Its super-fighters are kind of useless if the means to produce, maintain and fuel them suddenly is no longer available.
@@4DCResinSmoker Lol, China produce 370 million ton of iron ore in 2023, and they produced 4.6 billion ton of coal the same year, what can’t they build with that?
Just because China import just as much does not mean they do that when it’s war, if it’s a major war and war time prod gun starts they will stop building skyscrapers and cars, and then they don’t need to import coal and Iron.
Don’t listen to much in what they say on FOX
@@4DCResinSmoker 中国国土广阔，资源丰富，中国有石油和天然气以及各类矿产，但是中国经济和人口对这些需求太大了，如果是应对军事中国资源是够的，但民用就非常不足了。
所以中国一直和中亚国家，俄罗斯 和中东国家，伊朗等资源国关系好，修建了很多管道和铁路通往这些国家
中国和日本不一样，中国是一个陆地大国，和许多资源国接壤
This is a joke😂 its not even a stealth fighter jet
Die J20 ist eher Generation 3+....sie ist nicht wendig...sie hat keine Tarnkappen und massive Schwerpunktprobleme
Turkish program is a lot faster than China
Kaan 2011’de başladı. 13 yılda geldiği nokta bu.
@@toxichuman208 this is about the length of the program.
J-20 program has started in the early 90s.
There are 200+ J20s flying and it is in serial production.
KAAN is still in the testing phase
@@sidharthcs2110 J-20 program started in the 90s, Kaan program recently started. You are failing to understand the difference between speed and date.
@@bastadimasta The KAAN R&D project was launched in 2010. Why are you lying. 14 years ago, was it recent? The prototype has all been test flown, is it a plan that was only recently launched?
50 cent army: 📈📈📈📈📈
@@ridhobaihaqi144 cringe indog, your country cant even build aircraft 😂😂😂
copy of the f35
👍👍 And likely a BAAAD copy, much like most Made in Chiggity garbage.
@@mikestewart4752 And most likely it would blow up itself. Can't trust Chinese quality.
@@williamho1976 lol, fires missiles and wings fall off, plummets straight into the ocean killing more fish. 👍👍 Well done Chiggity. 🤦
@@mikestewart4752 They may be only good for killing fish 😄
@@williamho1976 Them iPhones be looking pretty good for cheap Chinese quality. Them Volkswagen cars manufactored in China also don't look have bad.
China's answer to the F22 should be: "I apologize for my behavior, it won't happen again".
J for JUNK™️
True.
F35(Crash 35😂😂
F for fart, get it
@@19447427 👈 Even has to copy jokes 🤦
@@mikestewart4752 an other angry loser
Chin propaganda , they do not have the high American aviation technology .....
junk
No matter how high tech nor equipped with the sharpest and latest state of the art technology this J-20 had..
Still it's made in CHINA!
Exactly.
@@williamho1976 Same industry bring back soil form far side of Moon, That's enough.
@@tomcatkewell How do you know its real? It is all CGI! How can you believe that? Anything from CCP is fake.
@@tomcatkewellYou sure about that mate
Yes, sounds like Boeing's product is perfect.
Absolutely not.
中国PL-15/17空射导弹被人严重低估了，这是致命的错误。
Give me a break. China has never made any jet that they haven't stolen from Russia. So we are supposed to believe they built some fifth Gen to compete against the 30+ year old perfected raptor? Yea right ☠️
CCP are delulu with their own propaganda.