The small stakes are always rigged. The bigger stakes with real pros arent touched. Thats why u hear poker players say its not rigged. They dont play 1 cent 2 cent. All online casinos are like life, The little guy always gets screwed.
oh yes everybody is studying hard and will not play bad hands. its impossible for people to play poker and get lucky. and if you play poker you should win or its rigged because that guy got rich on online poker and i watched his videos i read a book so i should always be a winning player at every single game winners never have losing streaks. winners can win every single hand. lmao
It’s not rigged, not everything needs a logical explanation lol. It’s .5-$1, people probably just don’t care about the money and are just fking around or drunk 😂
@@Hedonism96I've played a couple million hands and i can tell you none of these poker sites are rigged. You're just bad and you don't understand variance
@@Hedonism96 40bb/100 loool over what sample size? You must be talking about some tiny sample. You're not a winning player, that win rate is entirely unrealistic. You'd need to play so many hands you shouldn't be playing to have that win rate, this is why you lose online.
If he is just goofing around, why not all in preflop? You have the best odds to bingo. This is insanity, no-one on this fucking earth can pull of that call.
Bad calls are normal.. What id love to know is why i cant ever win a god damn coin flip.. For every coin flip I win I lose 20+.. Its fucking ridiculous and its like that on many sites. Get 1-3 outted all day long post flop, but cant hit a 6+ outter like ever.. Variance would make sense if it wasnt so damn 1 sided lol
In the biggest tournament I ever entered it was the bubble of the final table, I was second in chips. I got AA and had a pot with the chip leader. Flop came A 10 8 rainbow. Chip leader shoves, I call. HE HAS 42o. FOUR TWO OFF. Guess what came next? Turn 3, river 5. I threw my laptop on the floor and literally screamed. This site is so disgustingly rigged with bots and they make it so obvious. As I just got screwed in 3 all ins tonight with hands DOMINATING my opponent, I’m officially done with it.
To be completely fair I’ve hit a hand exactly like that… not all in but I was playing super aggressively cause I thought he had nothing and i turned + rivered a straight… and I’m a real person not a bot lol
@@bendathebest3372 it’s different seeing the turn and having an open ended or gut shot straight than literally shoving with the worst possible hand you can have on the board. It was the bubble of the final table too and he was chip leader. Nothing about it makes any sense.. It’s like they almost knew what was coming 🤔 I see it all the time in online games. My last tournament I was pretty deep a guy jammed preflop after a 3-bet and he and the one caller were both pretty deep. It was KK and the caller had 74o. What was the flop? 772. Board ran out clean. How are things like that explainable? We were close to money too
Its for sure rigged. Ive gotten rivered quads over set several times, straight flush over nut flush a few times, back door straight or flush over set several times, and ran every overpair into underpair sets more times than I can count in less than a week. It is rigged for action and bigger pots to take more rake. Idk if they have cheating bots or favored players but having it not be anonymous would be huge for tracking who is making these stupid plays that pay off 100% of the time. I know I'm not the best at poker but im a winning player at plenty of tables and variance cant possibly explain the massive amount of bad beats only happening to me from one source.
ur a losing player then. I play online, and when i get bad beats, i don't blame it on being rigged. poker has variance, its the game u sign up for. all u have to do is master ur emotions, keep a proper bankroll, and find games u can beat, and play them often. simple game
@@patrick-fs2uhThen you are dumb. In online play you are going against fixed-for-rake draws, house bots, player bots, player collusion. You are probably getting fleeced and attribute it all to variance. Save that losing player crap for face to face play, not for an environment in which 8 other people could chat up in Discord and work in tandem to make money.
its poker in general... people seem to think that they are playing a game of poker heads up so when they got a good hand they got a big shot at winning... well when you have 5 to 8 other players at your table atleast one of those hands at the table beats you most of the time unless you got the nuts... chances are somebody in that hand that folded has cards that would have beat you. and when you lose to these hands those people didnt care and made the call with a shit hand that just so happened to be the one that in a live game would usually be folded.... thats the difference in online poker people got more guts from their homes where they are comfortable and can just deposit more
This happens nearly everywhere i guarantee that most if not all real money sites have these players, why would anyone limp call 7 big blinds pre-flop and then call an all in with 23o, i mean he had 2 live cards AND equity to beat you but the fact he had 3 high and called is suspicious to me. i am glad I found your chanel i feel like something weird is going on about online poker for cash and remember it is was not THAT small amount of money that he called with 23o
I'm an ex professional poker player, and I can't win even at the lowest stakes anymore. What the hell is going on? Something happened to online poker back in 2006 already. Since then it's been harder to win, even at the lowest stakes, and currently it's just ridiculous.
all online poker sites will have the same defense if it ever goes to court. "Thats poker." Nowadays i will sit down ad play 3 orbits. if i am card dead, i change tables. otice how every online table always has 1 or 2 seats that hit and win 50% of flops? get off that table and wait for that seat to become open. Wonder why top poker players only make 6BBs/100? Because casinos want everyone to break even. If a software developer like poker tracker can show you where you are calling too much, then a poker software developer that actually deals the cards can absolutely decide witch card to put on the turn or river to generate more rake/revenue for the casino. im ready for the next chapter of online poker. the all-in or fold years to come. Fuck strategy. Good luck on the felts.
I stopped playing online years ago when I learned about HUDs, ghost players, RTA, all that shit. It’s a complete rip off. It’s actually been really great for me because live poker is just so much softer.
I’ve played both roulette and limit holdem on innition and have faced bad beats many times. Flipping a set and sucking out to a straight many times and losing to 7 blacks in a row on roulette. Look up the odds yourself and tell me it’s not a scam. People have so much faith in these sights but there is no way to verify their integrity nor are they regulated by and US laws. There’s nothing stopping them from rigging the games and the stats prove it almost unequivocallly. People win because they play so often and rarely cash out for large amounts. People that play professionally and solidly will tend to lose. Very simple.
I had A-K and flop came A-K-9, I bet like 7000 chips and somebody raised it upto 12,000 so i go all in (about 140,000) and i get snap called. He turns over 2-3 and guess what comes out? 2-2. He can't be bluffing coz he would have been the one going all in first to scare me off, i'm literally betting 7000 and he's raising me another 5000 for me then to go all in, surely at that point he has to fold. Even if he had been sitting with a 9 or something he should be folding never mind a 2-3 🤣
@@davidbickel6737 888 it was, this was like 4 years ago maybe longer. Had other ones like that but that's the one what stood out and will always remember 😂 It also seems to be the players who turn you over like that are the ones who never put any comments or anything up. Like when you bet and someone folds they sometimes write "fish" in the comment bit? But like the hand i'm talking about they never ever seem to chat or anything, like if that was me calling an all in with 2-3 and i hit 2-2 i would be saying something in the comment box about it. I'v been using ladbrokes poker the past while and seems to be not too bad but now and again in mostly the lower stakes tournaments you get alot of shoddy calls and all ins that end up winning but that's probably down to the fact it's a small stakes tournament and after 1-2 hours you start to get a bit bored and your already maybe guaranteed your buy in back or slightly more so take a risk and either hit and double up at least or your out and still got something back?
If a video game like Mario kart can manipulate superstar and red vs green turtle shells to make the game play more fun, you think a computer random generator can not manipulate percentages to keep money on the site using house bots... How can you prove it . Yeah they can say RNG is regulated and inspected, but what about a super user accounts that can change names and change outcomes when ever they want.
I play Bovada pretty much all day, every day and I have noticed two things: the more I am making deposits, the luckier I seem to get in poker hands. I have been the person catching straight bullshit with runner runners that NEVER happen in real life (I've played poker 10+ hours / daily for the past 20 years, holiday and weekends included the majority of the time. I was in prison for 9 of those years so give me a break ~ it's how I make a good living for my myself, wife and 2 kids). So, naturally I have altered my style of play having adapted to their algorithms. I Will sometimes call enormous pots for a gutshot straight or a higher pair that I wouldn't even consider calling at a real poker table. Its hard to give transparent tips for "when" to do this, since I really don't even know myself but the caveat is that sometimes you "do" know. Comes with practice and adapting to an environment with rules and walls while blind, is the analogy I give. Or like chess, if you're proficient you come across situations in which you know the correct move to make, as the situation and danger for alternatives sits somewhere in your memory bank, so you do what your intuition screams is the right thing to do. Asked to explain why? Forget about it.... you just knew, right? Same thing, and I've grown to love the audacity of the algorithms used by Ignition and Bovada poker servers , even though I still get royally screwed from time to time as well. The other thing I have noticed was actually given to me in the form of a graph I came across that an engineer had created using his own data from tens of thousands of games on Ignition and it applied to the poker room as well as the casino and can be summed up thusly: as time and play within the site mature, the amount of return initially grows exponentially, comes to a peak, and then gradually falls at a linear pace. To make this truism work for you and not against you, it is vital to switch up consistently the games, limits, casinos themselves (even using Cafe Casino for your slots play sporadically but never slots.lv as they as scumbag pricks, like the evil one of the lot). And even take a break altogether for at least 45 days if you find you have reached a point of continual deposits with practically no withdrawals or none altogether.
Is bovada worth playing? I'm trying to find how to play online poker for real money. I'm a pretty good player and am looking for small stakes to medium sized stakes, maybe $50-$100 games to start with. I live in KY a state that doesn't have online real money poker. Really wanting to try my hand at it cause I think I could make a little bit of money.
@@mrsinister8943Its all RIGGED man‼️ just play small stakes for practice online. Online poker use to be legit, and man o' man that was FUN‼️ I sat there all day on my laptop and played 2 to 3 tables at a time. The card shuffling is whats fake; the RNG decides whats going to come out on the board depending on whos in the hand.
What a Hero call coming from 3/2. I’m brain dead. I’ve seen crazy stuff, but not like that. Now idk if his finger slipped on accident or that was intentional but I think that is flat out rigged. It’s always the RIVER more or less.
It happened to me! I got a full house and the top player had all in for $42k and I won and only collected $10 from the table in chips. The guy then uses an animation to dash cash at me. When I look for that animation as well it’s no where to be found for me.
@@PaulPena-kq2zd I was offered 2k a month to coach MJ Gonzolez students, but I turned it down cause he isn’t a Christian and I kept feeling horrible around him I used to be pretty close friends with him If you don’t know MJ he was at the table when Patrik broke the record for biggest pot ever won I actually was TOO invested into poker (not too little). I wish I didn’t waste so much of my life studying that game
I play on Ignition and win, I play on ACR and win. Of course we lose sometimes but the people who complain and bad beats, stop it. I know like 10 people that make a living playing online, me included. Is it fun nooooo, study study study. You must know preflop ranges, VPIP ranges or the calling ranges. Identify the player pool, passive, loose passive, tight, aggressive, Regs....and go to war
If you saw my win/loss with premium hands you would not be inclined to say such a thing. As an experienced cash game player who studies regularly and knows the odds, I can tell you that ignition most certainly creates bad beats so that gamblers and other fish keep playing and they get more rake. All you have to do is compare ignition hand stats to theoretical probabilities to see it’s a scam.
@@jackbauer5239How good is your studying tho? How deep do you get? Plenty of people say they study yet don't know the first thing about using combinatorics in range building and blockers/anti blockers
bovada is a scam, i just played a hand POCKET aces, player 4 raises me 4.67$ i reraised 9$ i had aces, he has K5 OFF SUIT, turn is 4 5 6. i go all in 56$ he calls and hits a 5 on the turn.
(I will never read a reply) All the sites are dodgy. Stop giving false hope. India sites, Aussie sites, South American sites, they all figured out what they can legally get away with. The ONLY thing they have to 'legally' do is prove they can RNG shuffle the deck once. After that, they can hand out any cards they want to any players. This is why you see so many crazy flops followed by runner runners in online poker that are supposed to be 2-8% chances but happen in around 70% of hands.
Funny how many people think it’s legit because it lets them win sometimes. I found out the hard way with Bovada and Betsonline. It has proven to me that it cheats but I still have the urge to play it lol
Also would like to note that they limped at first the other person raised seven they may have hoped for a fold. You could have called and hit a straight and youd of won that hand if it was rigged for the 23 theyd of dominated you as well
It's not rigged here. But this isn't a lot of money. Imagine when playing these stakes that everyone's range starts at 72o because nobody cares about this kind of money. It was just a suck out. Happens in live poker too. Just not as frequent. But that 3% will hit when these people play it.
hahahhhaha not at all.. you realize most online players are recreational right... not winning players... not pros... they play for fun in hopes to win money...
its your hand vs many other hands.. in this case with 5 other players its you vs 5 every single hand....so the odds are against you so you have to make better decisions and realize you will have fish who dont care always a huge chance atleast one of the hands at the table even if they folded has your hand beat when you dont hit the nuts...
I play on BetMGM, but I often play while doing other shit…laundry, picking up the room, etc. One night I was carrying my son to his bed because he fell asleep in the car, and I accidentally hit the call button to an all in and it was similar to this. I had nothing and sucked out, but the call was a mistake (aka misclick). He could also be drunk, not know the rules, etc. Variance is a real thing. Anyway, anyone convinced all online poker is rigged (I used to think so too) just doesn’t understand bankroll management, and probably just not a good player. I have turned $100 into over $3,600 in a little over a month, slowly moving up the stakes. I can at least attest to BetMGM online poker not being rigged!
23 off can be a winning hand you dont know the persons mental state at the time they made the move. Could of been tilting. They could just be a gambler who has money to blow…
@@davidbickel6737 Jokerstars is just as bad. I had AA. Flop comes A 3 8. Rainbow!!!!! No suited cards on board. I do the unthinkable. Reverse psychology. Of course I'm supposed to check, let him fire off a bluff, etc. I shove my whole stack deep in a tournament. 20 remaining from 1500 entrants. I literally pushed with top set because I wanted to see what this accused "bot" or rigged player would do. People had been swearing in the chat box as the player had been wiping out opponent after opponent, with junk or miracle cards. I shove with top set, to my astonishment....the bot called with 6 high!!!!! They had a 6 5 offsuit???? Absolute rags. The turn and river fall immediately and of course a 2 and a 4 hit, giving them the straight. Unbelievable!! I analyzed this over and over. I came to the conclusion that the only reason the play looked so impossible was because of how I played it by shoving all in. Even if they assumed I was bluffing, they had a 6 high with a backdoor straight draw. The rigged player or site assumed I would check the flop, allowing him the free turn to make it more feasible to call a bet, if i was to fire an all-in after the turn. At least it might look believable for someone to call an all-in with a gutshot. Who would call? A donk of course. Than the river would have come giving them the straight. It would have been disguised because of how low the board was, and he called my big raise preflop. I exposed the site by jamming my whole stack after the flop and the house bot immediately called. A snap call, with 6 high and no flush possible. 100% proof of a known outcome of the cards. Remember, online poker was shut down in the U.S.....for obvious reasons.
@@kingcarriere8323 CRAZY story. Pretty much the same idea as this, impossible calls and then "luckily" catch on the river. I cancelled my Bovada account after the one you're seeing here.
@@kingcarriere8323hahahahahahahhahahahaha thats not why online poker was shut in states. You guys are stupid to think it's rigged. You're just bad. Learn to play profitably and work on your mental game.
Eveeytime one of those players jumps into the table im the guy who makes this call with ace high knowing im good bc of the way there playing and i swear to god its like they always hit there trash hand its sad really
He matched Player one. Player one went all in with less chips so player three with more chips called his push. It wouldn't need to show is zero balance since he would call the other guys all in
Ignition poker ? Well how did the withdrawal go for you ? I flipped 25 into 750 on the slots in ignition but when I went to withdraw wouldn't give me option for card only crypto an it was only 9 bucks I dont get it
Maybe he was done playing and just intended on throwing away the rest of his cash and got lucky on the river. Some donkeys will commit to a bluff even tho they have absolute rags and most of the board is out there. People play weird man lol that's it
Losing players always say onlines rigged because they expect a lucky win against a bunch of fish who will call with trash hands... you want people to fold shittier hands a little more often play high stakes...
I have mixed feelings.. yes sometimes it feels like no matter what i do I always get beat on the river, on the other hand ive won tournaments with several thousand people for several thousands of dollars, so, I dunno
Apparently if someone had hundreds of rounds you played poker they can use ai to play exactly like u.... And now there's wesbites selling big time poker players data. Scary
this what happened, you folded before flop, then seat 3 vs seat 6. seat 6 did not pair the board but seat 3 did, there you go, sometimes you need to use %1 of your brain.
It 100% is rigged. No one is playing high stakes. Thats a clear sign. Another sign is out of the supposed 20k people online, somehow you can't find a game or you play with same players.... Hmm.
@@danieltendies300At other sites i noticed it too. always the same fuckin people. partypoker for example: left down corner 6000 people online, then you go to search a room and 24 people plays 5/10 cents and the others too. how??? Im not a pro, but when i go to my local poker room in the city i mostly win. I tryed out all the poker sites online. First i register, make a 10 dollar deposit, i make it to 50-100 dollars under 2-3 days in 5/10 cents rooms. I make a withdrawal and after that THE BAD BEATS COME! ALWAYS! My favourite was on BWIN(last 3 dollars) : I have 33, next to me raises preflop, other one calls, me call, flop comes: 3, 8, 5. I go all in(tried to get a cash out), other 2 players calls. player 1: 88 player 2: J5 offsuit! The turn: J The river: J So the fuckin program made everybody to call the allin. And the third person was the house bot who knew the end. And you can say it can happen, or he was a fish and had luck, but NO! it happens too often. I count the chances, know which hands i have to fold preflop etc. and i can not win after the withdrawals in cash game. GGPoker is my last chance for online poker, every other site put me on blacklist just because i made withdrawals. And thats the reason why the sites deleted chat, so players cannot speak about the house bots luck at the table....
@@szokimondour8384What is your bb/100 live? I bet you don't know. You're not a winning player live or online. You just realise your lack of skill faster online as higher volume etc. Online is no different to live, it will just expose your flaws faster. Same reason Hellmuth can't win online, because he is a losing player riddled with bad strat
wtf am I missing? He ended up w 2 pair which a straight still beats… right?? Either way he bluffed in position which was a good bluff at a bad time imo
Exacty. Nothing weird here. Just someone who maybe thought "fuck it I'm done for the night" and threw what he had left in the pot. 🤷🏽♂️ Some people just commit fully to a bluff even if they are miles behind- and they do it for this reason. Suck out on the river lol
Online poker just has higher variance do to more hands being played per hour and it creates more opportunities to cheat. Plus some people dont play seriously
This happens to everybody everyday when you lose with 3of kind aces to 64 off suit and they make back door flush come give me a shout or when they constantly win 2% on me 90% of the time
Looks like just a bluff to me. The the guy who raised preflop was pretty much saying he had AK AQ ect. The guy with 32 read it and when the 10 came he bluffed it out but buddy called and gut unlucky on the river it happens all the time.
@davidbickel6737 uhhh yea... its been a couple weeks since i watched this vid but that's what happened right ... buddy bluffed. Raised with 3 2 right? then got beat on the river?
That's not a bluff That's an all in call That's what that is and nothing more question is what and who it is or what their using end of story Any id what RTA stands for its a program so bad it's as bad as seeing hole cards sites say they can detect it that's a lie it can be run on another computer a pro youtube as proven this
He didn't shove with 23o.. even worse he bet & called a shove... could be a miss click but then again if it's being recorded it must be happening a lot XD
I won $1k last night on bovada and I made some crazy calls against players with 23o. They caught 2 pair and shoved. I had a pocket pair and the board paired. I felted a few players shoving pre with dumb crap. I had like pocket 8 and person shoves pre and I call they end up showing AJo and don't catch anything just the way the game goes someday but you definitely gotta make some crazy calls against all those loose rec players
So dude was trying to bluff and got lucky. Why did homie call with ace high on that board? What do they beat? What redraw did they really have. If it was rigged why would you have flopped a straight and scooped both of them? Lol
what do they beat? they guy with 32 limped his hand, SB raised over limpers to 7bb which is fairly high, he was just trying to stack the fish, now in the FLOP you got a fairly small SPR against a guy who is most likely playing 60-90% of the deck lol, your hand has way more than 50% equity against this kind of player on any flop to ever exist and you barely need 30% equity to commit yourself and thats almost the equity he has with AQ against something like AJ . This is absolutely standard play against limping fishes.
I punt the most on all sites except ignition....but I was in a big tourney and called with pocket 3's so it's not scam because I hit nice at cash tables the way I play
The small stakes are always rigged. The bigger stakes with real pros arent touched. Thats why u hear poker players say its not rigged. They dont play 1 cent 2 cent. All online casinos are like life, The little guy always gets screwed.
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Not many true cash game pros play online! Where is Ivey,Helmut, Daniel only plays bc he is sponsored!
Bro acting like ppl are going to play .50 cent stakes like a wsop 😂😂😂
oh yes everybody is studying hard and will not play bad hands. its impossible for people to play poker and get lucky. and if you play poker you should win or its rigged because that guy got rich on online poker and i watched his videos i read a book so i should always be a winning player at every single game winners never have losing streaks. winners can win every single hand. lmao
It doesn’t matter.., if it was 0.5 0.2 cents.., that call isn’t explainable
@@notnot6749u dont know the game 😊
Forget the money, Nobody calls that
It ain't .50 cent it's over $50 on a call with nut low. Nobody plays like that.
It’s not rigged, not everything needs a logical explanation lol. It’s .5-$1, people probably just don’t care about the money and are just fking around or drunk 😂
Same thing has happened to me . I’ve heard they got bots in there which makes them a lot of money .
@@Hedonism96Bovada is soooo evil👹they pay pieces of sh-t to go on UA-cam and lie for them to suck beginners in who are curious about online poker.
@@Hedonism96I've played a couple million hands and i can tell you none of these poker sites are rigged. You're just bad and you don't understand variance
@@Hedonism96 40bb/100 loool over what sample size? You must be talking about some tiny sample. You're not a winning player, that win rate is entirely unrealistic. You'd need to play so many hands you shouldn't be playing to have that win rate, this is why you lose online.
If he is just goofing around, why not all in preflop? You have the best odds to bingo. This is insanity, no-one on this fucking earth can pull of that call.
Bad calls are normal.. What id love to know is why i cant ever win a god damn coin flip.. For every coin flip I win I lose 20+.. Its fucking ridiculous and its like that on many sites.
Get 1-3 outted all day long post flop, but cant hit a 6+ outter like ever.. Variance would make sense if it wasnt so damn 1 sided lol
In the biggest tournament I ever entered it was the bubble of the final table, I was second in chips. I got AA and had a pot with the chip leader. Flop came A 10 8 rainbow. Chip leader shoves, I call. HE HAS 42o. FOUR TWO OFF. Guess what came next? Turn 3, river 5. I threw my laptop on the floor and literally screamed.
This site is so disgustingly rigged with bots and they make it so obvious. As I just got screwed in 3 all ins tonight with hands DOMINATING my opponent, I’m officially done with it.
Wow, what a gross hand. It certainly makes you wonder...
To be completely fair I’ve hit a hand exactly like that… not all in but I was playing super aggressively cause I thought he had nothing and i turned + rivered a straight… and I’m a real person not a bot lol
@@bendathebest3372 it’s different seeing the turn and having an open ended or gut shot straight than literally shoving with the worst possible hand you can have on the board. It was the bubble of the final table too and he was chip leader. Nothing about it makes any sense..
It’s like they almost knew what was coming 🤔 I see it all the time in online games. My last tournament I was pretty deep a guy jammed preflop after a 3-bet and he and the one caller were both pretty deep. It was KK and the caller had 74o. What was the flop? 772. Board ran out clean. How are things like that explainable? We were close to money too
@@trevor3575 I mean that could happen live too, it’s poker lol
Idk I hit a one outer on a guy the other day lol
Its for sure rigged. Ive gotten rivered quads over set several times, straight flush over nut flush a few times, back door straight or flush over set several times, and ran every overpair into underpair sets more times than I can count in less than a week. It is rigged for action and bigger pots to take more rake. Idk if they have cheating bots or favored players but having it not be anonymous would be huge for tracking who is making these stupid plays that pay off 100% of the time. I know I'm not the best at poker but im a winning player at plenty of tables and variance cant possibly explain the massive amount of bad beats only happening to me from one source.
Happened the same to me lately
on line poker is rigged. fuck this. i am so happy to not deal with this shit anymore...
It's not just bovada.. it's every single online poker site
because Satan is a cheater.
ur a losing player then. I play online, and when i get bad beats, i don't blame it on being rigged. poker has variance, its the game u sign up for. all u have to do is master ur emotions, keep a proper bankroll, and find games u can beat, and play them often. simple game
@@patrick-fs2uhThen you are dumb. In online play you are going against fixed-for-rake draws, house bots, player bots, player collusion. You are probably getting fleeced and attribute it all to variance. Save that losing player crap for face to face play, not for an environment in which 8 other people could chat up in Discord and work in tandem to make money.
@@patrick-fs2uhthere is a bad bot problem in all online poker. Acr is a prime example of that it's going on at every site tho
its poker in general... people seem to think that they are playing a game of poker heads up so when they got a good hand they got a big shot at winning... well when you have 5 to 8 other players at your table atleast one of those hands at the table beats you most of the time unless you got the nuts... chances are somebody in that hand that folded has cards that would have beat you. and when you lose to these hands those people didnt care and made the call with a shit hand that just so happened to be the one that in a live game would usually be folded.... thats the difference in online poker people got more guts from their homes where they are comfortable and can just deposit more
This happens nearly everywhere i guarantee that most if not all real money sites have these players, why would anyone limp call 7 big blinds pre-flop and then call an all in with 23o, i mean he had 2 live cards AND equity to beat you but the fact he had 3 high and called is suspicious to me. i am glad I found your chanel i feel like something weird is going on about online poker for cash and remember it is was not THAT small amount of money that he called with 23o
because these are online recreational players not professionals who are not going to follow guidelines that you want them to follow so you can win...
U folded the nuts lmao
98 off nuts preflop?
Learn the game before talking
@@Blackacat1234he folded the nuts at the time? Wym
Even if he folded at the end 10 J was nuts this hand buddy
@@user-li5im5bx8m JJ was nuts
ALL online poker is a 100000% scam.....
I'm an ex professional poker player, and I can't win even at the lowest stakes anymore. What the hell is going on? Something happened to online poker back in 2006 already. Since then it's been harder to win, even at the lowest stakes, and currently it's just ridiculous.
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Lmao bovada and ignition have the softest tables ever
You re bad and everyone has gotten better since then. I used to print money in 2007 and I was bad lol. Used to win 1000s every day. It was insane
Looooooool
all online poker sites will have the same defense if it ever goes to court. "Thats poker." Nowadays i will sit down ad play 3 orbits. if i am card dead, i change tables. otice how every online table always has 1 or 2 seats that hit and win 50% of flops? get off that table and wait for that seat to become open. Wonder why top poker players only make 6BBs/100? Because casinos want everyone to break even. If a software developer like poker tracker can show you where you are calling too much, then a poker software developer that actually deals the cards can absolutely decide witch card to put on the turn or river to generate more rake/revenue for the casino. im ready for the next chapter of online poker. the all-in or fold years to come. Fuck strategy. Good luck on the felts.
You have no concept of what random means. Or what software can do. Get educated and good luck
ur the one who needs education hes very much correct do your homework before commenting bud@@mikesaddi
@@Blisyb I work in software development, I know what I am talking about, BUD. Show me evidence of rigged software instead of bad beat stories
Goes to court? HAHA. It's an unregulated site operating out of the caribbean. good luck getting them "to court"
Yea if its online the absolutely can make everyplayer a bot .....lol
I stopped playing online years ago when I learned about HUDs, ghost players, RTA, all that shit. It’s a complete rip off. It’s actually been really great for me because live poker is just so much softer.
I’ve played both roulette and limit holdem on innition and have faced bad beats many times. Flipping a set and sucking out to a straight many times and losing to 7 blacks in a row on roulette. Look up the odds yourself and tell me it’s not a scam. People have so much faith in these sights but there is no way to verify their integrity nor are they regulated by and US laws. There’s nothing stopping them from rigging the games and the stats prove it almost unequivocallly. People win because they play so often and rarely cash out for large amounts. People that play professionally and solidly will tend to lose. Very simple.
The people that go on UA-cam saying Bovada is legit are paid by Bovada to lie to people.
If it’s not rigged by the site, there are bot Farms running crazy amount of players.
Bovada is by far the worst
online poker sucks and they who say, o no u are just bad player are full of bullsh...This dogs like this one here in live poker have no chance.
Do you know any websites?
I had A-K and flop came A-K-9, I bet like 7000 chips and somebody raised it upto 12,000 so i go all in (about 140,000) and i get snap called. He turns over 2-3 and guess what comes out? 2-2. He can't be bluffing coz he would have been the one going all in first to scare me off, i'm literally betting 7000 and he's raising me another 5000 for me then to go all in, surely at that point he has to fold. Even if he had been sitting with a 9 or something he should be folding never mind a 2-3 🤣
UGH!!!! What site was that?
@@davidbickel6737 888 it was, this was like 4 years ago maybe longer. Had other ones like that but that's the one what stood out and will always remember 😂 It also seems to be the players who turn you over like that are the ones who never put any comments or anything up. Like when you bet and someone folds they sometimes write "fish" in the comment bit? But like the hand i'm talking about they never ever seem to chat or anything, like if that was me calling an all in with 2-3 and i hit 2-2 i would be saying something in the comment box about it. I'v been using ladbrokes poker the past while and seems to be not too bad but now and again in mostly the lower stakes tournaments you get alot of shoddy calls and all ins that end up winning but that's probably down to the fact it's a small stakes tournament and after 1-2 hours you start to get a bit bored and your already maybe guaranteed your buy in back or slightly more so take a risk and either hit and double up at least or your out and still got something back?
don’t gamble online, simple. waste of time, waste of money, & your odds of losing are increased substantially. much easier to rig online than IRL
It's amazing how many people miss the point a Straight beats 2pair, but 2pair "won" the hand.
U miss the point, he folded the straight pre-flop.
Better question is why didnt u call? But yea its rigged n they also stole my credit card info n made a bunch of charges on it. Stay away from bovada
are you serious?
@@Nick-vp9gb this guy
why would you use a credit card?? crypto always.
@@ABRYZZ not gonna give crypto to a shady f*cking a** site. No thx
Def don’t use credit cards lol
If a video game like Mario kart can manipulate superstar and red vs green turtle shells to make the game play more fun, you think a computer random generator can not manipulate percentages to keep money on the site using house bots... How can you prove it . Yeah they can say RNG is regulated and inspected, but what about a super user accounts that can change names and change outcomes when ever they want.
I play Bovada pretty much all day, every day and I have noticed two things: the more I am making deposits, the luckier I seem to get in poker hands. I have been the person catching straight bullshit with runner runners that NEVER happen in real life (I've played poker 10+ hours / daily for the past 20 years, holiday and weekends included the majority of the time. I was in prison for 9 of those years so give me a break ~ it's how I make a good living for my myself, wife and 2 kids).
So, naturally I have altered my style of play having adapted to their algorithms. I Will sometimes call enormous pots for a gutshot straight or a higher pair that I wouldn't even consider calling at a real poker table. Its hard to give transparent tips for "when" to do this, since I really don't even know myself but the caveat is that sometimes you "do" know. Comes with practice and adapting to an environment with rules and walls while blind, is the analogy I give. Or like chess, if you're proficient you come across situations in which you know the correct move to make, as the situation and danger for alternatives sits somewhere in your memory bank, so you do what your intuition screams is the right thing to do. Asked to explain why? Forget about it.... you just knew, right? Same thing, and I've grown to love the audacity of the algorithms used by Ignition and Bovada poker servers , even though I still get royally screwed from time to time as well.
The other thing I have noticed was actually given to me in the form of a graph I came across that an engineer had created using his own data from tens of thousands of games on Ignition and it applied to the poker room as well as the casino and can be summed up thusly: as time and play within the site mature, the amount of return initially grows exponentially, comes to a peak, and then gradually falls at a linear pace.
To make this truism work for you and not against you, it is vital to switch up consistently the games, limits, casinos themselves (even using Cafe Casino for your slots play sporadically but never slots.lv as they as scumbag pricks, like the evil one of the lot). And even take a break altogether for at least 45 days if you find you have reached a point of continual deposits with practically no withdrawals or none altogether.
Is bovada worth playing? I'm trying to find how to play online poker for real money. I'm a pretty good player and am looking for small stakes to medium sized stakes, maybe $50-$100 games to start with. I live in KY a state that doesn't have online real money poker. Really wanting to try my hand at it cause I think I could make a little bit of money.
@@mrsinister8943Its all RIGGED man‼️ just play small stakes for practice online.
Online poker use to be legit, and man o' man that was FUN‼️ I sat there all day on my laptop and played 2 to 3 tables at a time. The card shuffling is whats fake; the RNG decides whats going to come out on the board depending on whos in the hand.
@@mrsinister8943You're not good. Get that idea out of your head before you go in disillusioned
What a Hero call coming from 3/2.
I’m brain dead. I’ve seen crazy stuff, but not like that. Now idk if his finger slipped on accident or that was intentional but I think that is flat out rigged. It’s always the RIVER more or less.
Ya actually a misclick is the only argument here good point.
It happened to me! I got a full house and the top player had all in for $42k and I won and only collected $10 from the table in chips. The guy then uses an animation to dash cash at me. When I look for that animation as well it’s no where to be found for me.
“If it’s rigged they are doing a horrible job!” Says every reg I talk to
Right which would amount to zero I'm guessing.
@@PaulPena-kq2zd I was offered 2k a month to coach MJ Gonzolez students, but I turned it down cause he isn’t a Christian and I kept feeling horrible around him
I used to be pretty close friends with him
If you don’t know MJ he was at the table when Patrik broke the record for biggest pot ever won
I actually was TOO invested into poker (not too little). I wish I didn’t waste so much of my life studying that game
@@PaulPena-kq2zd v1d on my ch33333333333nnnnnnellll of 2k nl
LOL
Oh yeah? You ain't got recipts on that, so quit cappin as the kids say.
Huh? I’m on hendon mob
Yea ignition def be scamming!
I play on Ignition and win, I play on ACR and win. Of course we lose sometimes but the people who complain and bad beats, stop it. I know like 10 people that make a living playing online, me included. Is it fun nooooo, study study study. You must know preflop ranges, VPIP ranges or the calling ranges. Identify the player pool, passive, loose passive, tight, aggressive, Regs....and go to war
If you saw my win/loss with premium hands you would not be inclined to say such a thing. As an experienced cash game player who studies regularly and knows the odds, I can tell you that ignition most certainly creates bad beats so that gamblers and other fish keep playing and they get more rake. All you have to do is compare ignition hand stats to theoretical probabilities to see it’s a scam.
How much have you won exactly?
@@jackbauer5239How good is your studying tho? How deep do you get? Plenty of people say they study yet don't know the first thing about using combinatorics in range building and blockers/anti blockers
bovada is a scam, i just played a hand POCKET aces, player 4 raises me 4.67$ i reraised 9$ i had aces, he has K5 OFF SUIT, turn is 4 5 6. i go all in 56$ he calls and hits a 5 on the turn.
Robbi called with j4
American sites are dodgy as fuck. over in Europe we have colluding
GG poker is the worst site out there. so much cheating.
(I will never read a reply) All the sites are dodgy. Stop giving false hope. India sites, Aussie sites, South American sites, they all figured out what they can legally get away with.
The ONLY thing they have to 'legally' do is prove they can RNG shuffle the deck once. After that, they can hand out any cards they want to any players. This is why you see so many crazy flops followed by runner runners in online poker that are supposed to be 2-8% chances but happen in around 70% of hands.
Am I crazy? Is there any rational explanation for this? Please comment and let me know your thoughts...
This is not that weird he just bluffed. But is a scam. Only with the high rake for what?
Hey Def rigged don't play online in any websitr
Yeah, he sucks and you’re pissed about it because you flopped a straight. Just be happy he’s at the table.
You suck at poker
@@ignaciosavi7739 LOL! You're probably right but I'm not sure how you gleaned that from this video!
People don’t realize that .5/1 is way harder than all WSOP events under 1.5k lmao
Playing cards online is the buy dumbest shot to do
Oh shit he folded lol, makes even less sense.
Funny how many people think it’s legit because it lets them win sometimes. I found out the hard way with Bovada and Betsonline. It has proven to me that it cheats but I still have the urge to play it lol
Also would like to note that they limped at first the other person raised seven they may have hoped for a fold. You could have called and hit a straight and youd of won that hand if it was rigged for the 23 theyd of dominated you as well
It's not rigged here. But this isn't a lot of money. Imagine when playing these stakes that everyone's range starts at 72o because nobody cares about this kind of money. It was just a suck out. Happens in live poker too. Just not as frequent. But that 3% will hit when these people play it.
They knew it was coming and knew it would win
hahahhhaha not at all.. you realize most online players are recreational right... not winning players... not pros... they play for fun in hopes to win money...
That guy was tilted and didn’t care about his money anymore is the explanation lol
its your hand vs many other hands.. in this case with 5 other players its you vs 5 every single hand....so the odds are against you so you have to make better decisions and realize you will have fish who dont care always a huge chance atleast one of the hands at the table even if they folded has your hand beat when you dont hit the nuts...
I play on BetMGM, but I often play while doing other shit…laundry, picking up the room, etc. One night I was carrying my son to his bed because he fell asleep in the car, and I accidentally hit the call button to an all in and it was similar to this. I had nothing and sucked out, but the call was a mistake (aka misclick). He could also be drunk, not know the rules, etc. Variance is a real thing.
Anyway, anyone convinced all online poker is rigged (I used to think so too) just doesn’t understand bankroll management, and probably just not a good player. I have turned $100 into over $3,600 in a little over a month, slowly moving up the stakes. I can at least attest to BetMGM online poker not being rigged!
Betmgm is regulated
Looks like a chip dump to me. Where is the scam?
The guy with the 3/2 was probably thinking that it would make everyone fold.
23 off can be a winning hand you dont know the persons mental state at the time they made the move. Could of been tilting. They could just be a gambler who has money to blow…
Holy shit! This is worse then the robbi incident! Can't think of any logical reason to make that call!
Huge call with 3 high and no outs. Shadiest thing I've ever seen in 20 years of playing online (and I've seen A LOT of shady stuff)
@@davidbickel6737 Jokerstars is just as bad.
I had AA. Flop comes A 3 8. Rainbow!!!!! No suited cards on board. I do the unthinkable. Reverse psychology. Of course I'm supposed to check, let him fire off a bluff, etc. I shove my whole stack deep in a tournament. 20 remaining from 1500 entrants. I literally pushed with top set because I wanted to see what this accused "bot" or rigged player would do. People had been swearing in the chat box as the player had been wiping out opponent after opponent, with junk or miracle cards. I shove with top set, to my astonishment....the bot called with 6 high!!!!! They had a 6 5 offsuit???? Absolute rags. The turn and river fall immediately and of course a 2 and a 4 hit, giving them the straight. Unbelievable!!
I analyzed this over and over. I came to the conclusion that the only reason the play looked so impossible was because of how I played it by shoving all in. Even if they assumed I was bluffing, they had a 6 high with a backdoor straight draw. The rigged player or site assumed I would check the flop, allowing him the free turn to make it more feasible to call a bet, if i was to fire an all-in after the turn. At least it might look believable for someone to call an all-in with a gutshot. Who would call? A donk of course. Than the river would have come giving them the straight. It would have been disguised because of how low the board was, and he called my big raise preflop. I exposed the site by jamming my whole stack after the flop and the house bot immediately called. A snap call, with 6 high and no flush possible. 100% proof of a known outcome of the cards.
Remember, online poker was shut down in the U.S.....for obvious reasons.
@@kingcarriere8323 CRAZY story. Pretty much the same idea as this, impossible calls and then "luckily" catch on the river. I cancelled my Bovada account after the one you're seeing here.
@@kingcarriere8323hahahahahahahhahahahaha thats not why online poker was shut in states.
You guys are stupid to think it's rigged. You're just bad. Learn to play profitably and work on your mental game.
Real scam ,they use algo for draw and
Eveeytime one of those players jumps into the table im the guy who makes this call with ace high knowing im good bc of the way there playing and i swear to god its like they always hit there trash hand its sad really
he could just be bluffing & got lucky. It happens in live poker too. dont play online to win $ they are all rigged
You can't bluff when someone else shoves LOL
@@PaulPena-kq2zd pretty sure that girl Bluff Called Garrett
I’ve made bad choices and have been bailed out before
You have to be all star level 3 or higher to win
He matched Player one. Player one went all in with less chips so player three with more chips called his push. It wouldn't need to show is zero balance since he would call the other guys all in
I just turned 40$ to 250 on ig casino in poker, doesn’t seem rigged to me
Ignition poker ? Well how did the withdrawal go for you ? I flipped 25 into 750 on the slots in ignition but when I went to withdraw wouldn't give me option for card only crypto an it was only 9 bucks I dont get it
I would love for a real person to show me winning stats i dont think those people are out there
Maybe he was done playing and just intended on throwing away the rest of his cash and got lucky on the river. Some donkeys will commit to a bluff even tho they have absolute rags and most of the board is out there. People play weird man lol that's it
In the same night I lost kings full of 6s to quad 6s. And Ace high flush to straight flush. All on River I quit
All in bovada, seen my boy lose aces full of kings to quad 4s in real life though. That’s the worst I’ve ever seen
Losing players always say onlines rigged because they expect a lucky win against a bunch of fish who will call with trash hands... you want people to fold shittier hands a little more often play high stakes...
How did you react when you realized you would have flopped a straight?
lol thats why you don't play micro stakes. Too many fishes. You need to play higher stakes like $200 or above.
I have mixed feelings.. yes sometimes it feels like no matter what i do I always get beat on the river, on the other hand ive won tournaments with several thousand people for several thousands of dollars, so, I dunno
Apparently if someone had hundreds of rounds you played poker they can use ai to play exactly like u.... And now there's wesbites selling big time poker players data. Scary
this what happened, you folded before flop, then seat 3 vs seat 6. seat 6 did not pair the board but seat 3 did, there you go, sometimes you need to use %1 of your brain.
It 100% is rigged. No one is playing high stakes. Thats a clear sign. Another sign is out of the supposed 20k people online, somehow you can't find a game or you play with same players.... Hmm.
Very insightful. Greedy corrupt fk'in sites!!
How do you know if you’re playing with the same players if it’s anonymous on this site?
@@danieltendies300At other sites i noticed it too. always the same fuckin people. partypoker for example: left down corner 6000 people online, then you go to search a room and 24 people plays 5/10 cents and the others too. how???
Im not a pro, but when i go to my local poker room in the city i mostly win. I tryed out all the poker sites online. First i register, make a 10 dollar deposit, i make it to 50-100 dollars under 2-3 days in 5/10 cents rooms. I make a withdrawal and after that THE BAD BEATS COME! ALWAYS!
My favourite was on BWIN(last 3 dollars) : I have 33, next to me raises preflop, other one calls, me call, flop comes: 3, 8, 5. I go all in(tried to get a cash out), other 2 players calls.
player 1: 88
player 2: J5 offsuit!
The turn: J
The river: J
So the fuckin program made everybody to call the allin. And the third person was the house bot who knew the end.
And you can say it can happen, or he was a fish and had luck, but NO! it happens too often. I count the chances, know which hands i have to fold preflop etc. and i can not win after the withdrawals in cash game. GGPoker is my last chance for online poker, every other site put me on blacklist just because i made withdrawals. And thats the reason why the sites deleted chat, so players cannot speak about the house bots luck at the table....
@@szokimondour8384What is your bb/100 live? I bet you don't know. You're not a winning player live or online. You just realise your lack of skill faster online as higher volume etc. Online is no different to live, it will just expose your flaws faster.
Same reason Hellmuth can't win online, because he is a losing player riddled with bad strat
@@szokimondour8384 💯. I left Bovada 7 years ago.
wtf am I missing? He ended up w 2 pair which a straight still beats… right?? Either way he bluffed in position which was a good bluff at a bad time imo
Player 3 called an all in raise with 3 high. He didn't bluff, he CALLED. Then caught his pair on the river.
I don't know I just dump like this sometimes 😂
Exacty. Nothing weird here. Just someone who maybe thought "fuck it I'm done for the night" and threw what he had left in the pot. 🤷🏽♂️ Some people just commit fully to a bluff even if they are miles behind- and they do it for this reason. Suck out on the river lol
@@SwazNasty But people don't do that when they have over 100 BBs. It's when they're down to their last 15 or 20.
Online poker just has higher variance do to more hands being played per hour and it creates more opportunities to cheat. Plus some people dont play seriously
This happens to everybody everyday when you lose with 3of kind aces to 64 off suit and they make back door flush come give me a shout or when they constantly win 2% on me 90% of the time
How did he win with 32? didnt he had a straight he only had 2 pair
Looks like just a bluff to me. The the guy who raised preflop was pretty much saying he had AK AQ ect. The guy with 32 read it and when the 10 came he bluffed it out but buddy called and gut unlucky on the river it happens all the time.
A bluff is only a bluff when you're the one raising, not when you're calling. 🥴
@davidbickel6737 uhhh yea... its been a couple weeks since i watched this vid but that's what happened right ... buddy bluffed. Raised with 3 2 right? then got beat on the river?
That's not a bluff That's an all in call That's what that is and nothing more question is what and who it is or what their using end of story Any id what RTA stands for its a program so bad it's as bad as seeing hole cards sites say they can detect it that's a lie it can be run on another computer a pro youtube as proven this
Why are you playing less than 100bbs
He didn't shove with 23o.. even worse he bet & called a shove... could be a miss click but then again if it's being recorded it must be happening a lot XD
He’s bluffing the hand you folded…
Most of the time bluffing refers to betting to get someone to fold, not calling a massive raise with 3 high.
@@davidbickel6737 its a calling bluff pretty useful sometimes, same for the folding bluff
Honestly both plays were donkey plays so one of the donkeys had to win the pot
Lmao
Aq play is somewhat standard
Yesterday flop 865,i had 74 it was a £5 fast forward game guess what other man had?Yep 7 and 10 .Sick rigged crap😂ps I lost my £5😢
He got 7 high ,why u got mad
Thats y u always see the flop in most cases
See people lay in bed with there bluff all day just part of the all in pre flop he probably didn't expect to get called and got lucky.
U had a str8 and fold. That guy won with a Pair . He went all in cuz he’s a fish
You simply flopped before you saw the cards??? Like what
You Folded The Nuts 😒 explain That
I would call if I was drunk
Really drunk
To be fair, you could have called 😂
Bro just mad because he fold on straight card lol
I won $1k last night on bovada and I made some crazy calls against players with 23o. They caught 2 pair and shoved. I had a pocket pair and the board paired. I felted a few players shoving pre with dumb crap. I had like pocket 8 and person shoves pre and I call they end up showing AJo and don't catch anything just the way the game goes someday but you definitely gotta make some crazy calls against all those loose rec players
I do her online cashed out alot
Bet
So dude was trying to bluff and got lucky. Why did homie call with ace high on that board? What do they beat? What redraw did they really have. If it was rigged why would you have flopped a straight and scooped both of them? Lol
what do they beat? they guy with 32 limped his hand, SB raised over limpers to 7bb which is fairly high, he was just trying to stack the fish, now in the FLOP you got a fairly small SPR against a guy who is most likely playing 60-90% of the deck lol, your hand has way more than 50% equity against this kind of player on any flop to ever exist and you barely need 30% equity to commit yourself and thats almost the equity he has with AQ against something like AJ . This is absolutely standard play against limping fishes.
Lol people punt off all the time on ignition, so who knows.
There's punts when you're bluffing big with nothing. CALLING huge with a completely unconnected hand is something very different...
@@davidbickel6737 it's micro stakes relax. Dude just punted.
@@davidbickel6737 it's micro stakes relax. Dude just punted.
I punt the most on all sites except ignition....but I was in a big tourney and called with pocket 3's so it's not scam because I hit nice at cash tables the way I play
@@gregorysims5390 This dude didn't call with pocket threes. He called with literally 3 high.
it's very weird . very suspicious
Online Poker all Site is RIGGED 😅😅😅😅😅
you fold that hand :0
Probably multi accounting attempting to chip dump to himself
The all in was from a fish and he got lucky. Nothing more
Wait WTF, did i just witness a pair of 3's beat a Straight?
He folded the straight for some reason
@@mmarioescareno Yeah, folded 9/8 off pre flop to a 7x bet. I'm crazy that way!
@@davidbickel6737what hand did the player with the 3s make?
You folded a flop straight lol wtf you mean😂
Bruh lmmfao , this is poker
Chip dumping.
Looks like misclick tbh
It's called "alcohol"
why hommie get in AQ high lol
He had a blocker
Lmao