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Watch this before compound Cards in your Weapon - Ragnarok PreRenewal
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Hey Ragnarok lovers, today I bring you a guide on Cards stack mechanic. It works in Pre Renewal and Classic. I hope you find it useful and enjoy. So there is also a lot of places to go with one of my favorites Weapon, with Knight and also with Crusader.
00:00 Intro
00:07 Stacking Mechanics
01:15 Asura Chain
01:57 2-2 vs 3-1
02:55 ElementAndRace
03:42 4 equal Cards Stacking
06:34 4 Cards Crusader
08:28 Outro
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The quality of the videos are just insane! I do love your scientific oriented approach with all these graphs, computations, probabilities of farming and expected time etc. One day there will be a whole statistical inference corse based on Ragnarok computations :D
Obrigado por me fazer um jogador melhor mesmo tendo muito pouco tempo para jogar e analisar os aspectos do jogo!! Muito bom seus vídeos.
As most people said already, your videos are incredible !
You take a subject and you go deep, while explaining in a simple and factual way.
Congratulations on this great content about an old game that still has its own fanbase and with little to no updated information !
You got yourself a subscriber :)
I love all your videos man, straight to the point with the information needed.
People always ask me why I use four of the same cards (races or elements) in my weapon, saying it doesnt work. I'm going to send this video to everyone 😂
I dont get it, who was thinking, that the additional cards does not stack. Its just that they dont do the maximum posible dmg. But who cares if they are doing similar hits to kill monster.
This why I always had my Size Weaponns for Hunter. 4 Boned, 4 Titan. For slamm monsters I used double gigantic. So I could switch 3 bows in faster way. But if I needed some special place, I also made some 2-2 bows or even special 2-1-1 Sohee 1 Ds bow.
J'aime beaucoup ta chaine, la qualité de tes vidéos est vraiment bonne tout est très bien expliqué, plus un abonné ! Good job from France
Oye bro, que buenos videos subes :3!
me agrada como explicas con especificaciones, y es que siempre tuve esta clase de dudas haha
te felicito! saludos
Wish u have a great success on this way,
So beneficial for me although i played RO for 10 years❤️
I've just found your channel and I LOVE IT
Me encantan tus vídeos necri! :D muchas gracias por compartir tus conocimientos, he aprendido muchísimo con tus vídeos, tienes mi subscripcion para siempre 🙏🙏
i really like your videos bruh.. it best explains the difference between PVM and PVP effects of cards 😊👍
this video is incredibly helpful, thanks!
Jajaja amigo sos un pato crack, ni yo profundizó tanto en los % de daño para sacarles el 100% de rendimiento, SOS un maestro
Ciência pura. Pure science. Thanks from Brasil.
great video, thanks for the information
Dios, me motivas a jugar! jajaja me gustaria mucho hicieras una guia para subir crusader !! me gusta mucho esa clase
man all your guides are dope
keep it upbro im waiting for ur video every day
muy bien explicado, a sido un honor compartir server contigo y saber que tienes muy buen contenido, saludos Atte Aioria De Leo
Joajaoaj mira donde te pillo phuto xd
Dont even know how did i get here but i love it , missing Ro so much
Excelente video como siempre. 👌🏾
Necri me encantan tus vídeos, hace muchos años que no juego Ro, por recomendación de UA-cam mire tu canal y me gustó mucho la manera en que explicas, podrás hacer una guía de taekwondo y Star gladiator :D
Even if i'm no playing ro actually, this is fun to watch
Thanks! Great video!
Subbed. Well done. Much appreciated.
hermano muchas gracias por tus guías! gracias a ti volvemos al ro jeje
On 1:05, the second formula (on the right) it's the one below:
1+1x(0.2 + 0.2) = 1+0.4 = 1.4
The outcome is the same here, but if the initial damage changes so does the subsecuent damage, as you see later in the video.
yay! a new necri video
Nice video, Necri. Can you do a video about this crusader shield boomerang?
So useful... ty so much
Thank you very much!
Hi Pedro, Nice Videos!
Well for snipers 3-1 Compbow is doing more dmg than 2-2. Its very similar but with 160+ Dex its doing more. All depends on : if the 2% are more than 5 atk flat.
In genreall 2-2, 3-1 Combos are great choice. But you have to consider in mind, that if you oneshot things with 4 size cards or 4 race cards, you can use the weapons in alot of different places. Like you mentioned in your video.
Before doing weapons, you need to calc the number of hits you are doing. Simple as it is.
I love the special Sohee oneshot bow with : 2 Dranilar, 1 Strouf 1 Skellworker + 10 compbow. This used to be extrem nice in classic. Cause oneshotting sohee, instead of doing 1 DS and 1 AutoAtack is a big diff. You are doing 30% more kills per hour. Means you getting at least 1 Muffler more per hour on 1x.
Yep. It also depends on your str/dex bonus and some skills have a aspd modifier so losing 10 str and 40 agi may be worth it on some builds.
excelent video as always /scissors
it is the same i guess for daggers on assasins? i always used 7 of the same cards, for versatility. great video, new sub here
Buenísimos videos, podrías hacer una guía de Rush leveling con Job classes no tan metas, como Ninja, Star Gladiator ??
you can use tamruan card in your shield to get more damage.
Noice guide
Another great video as usual. Thanks for posting this necri.
my take on this is if you want to min max your farm on a specific mobs 2-2 all the way
but you if you farm different mobs at the same time go for 4
great videos as always!
I Love ur channel. Keed doing vídeos plz.
Nice video! At the end it's irrelevant, just put the cards that you have in your equip and it will be fine :), but how about % critical damage? Like the paper card is it worth stacking?
Thanks!
you are the best
Excelente 👌
Nice videos, Can you do one about Wizard?
PLEASEE make a video teaching how to farm in odin's temple with LK !!!
Manito, funniest thing about your knight videos, is that waaay back in the day ppl thought I was crazy for getting a lot of INT on a knight; and nowadays you proved it's amazing XD always made sense, knights get a huge benefit on HP items from skills, so u dont need high VIT when leveling, just enough to make stuns bearable. INT is crazy since your skills are very cheap, and with our 92 STR we can carry a lot of honeys and whatnot, no wonder I see u putting 60+ int on some of ur knights.
Love ur videos buddy, cheers from Brazil.
The int depends on what you are looking for. For a pvm build, a bit of int will be handy, you'll lose a bit of survivability or dmg and gain more space to cast your spells. But If you are focusing on pvp/woe a build with int will be terrible, you shouldn't be able to enter any guild (unless it's a mob guild), and in pvp you'll fall behind someone with a better build.
Puedes hacer una guía así con tipos de arma y armamos de mob? Por ejemplo fuuma shurikens dagas etc?
Ice pick fire endowed is also good in sleeper
Buenísima explicación siempre es un tema saber que Card o no poner .. aveces el mínimo daño puede tener más opciones ... Pregunta el chain mail para ir a Thor está encantado? O es solo con porcellio Card ?
Hey, gracias por tu comentario amigo!! El Chain Mail solo lleva la Card, no tiene encantamiento.
Please make tutorial for pre renewal lord knight / knight equipment build for magma dungeon 2..
So maybe 2 paper cards, and 2 mobster card would be better, than 4 paper cards on assassin crit?
Or it would be better if the weapon have size or race damage modifiers combined with it?
thx so much , for guide, can u explaine about shield bumerang and shield chain, why paladins use bumerang ?
Yeah, I think I will make a guide about this very soon
thanks necri for your clear explaination, my question is : how about abysmal knight card? does it count as race or size or something else? and how we utilize it with another type of card?
a little late but:
Abysmall is neither size nor race, so being a different effect would make it multiplicative. I'm not math savy, so idk if it would be better to have 2x abysmal and 2x elemente/race or even a 1x 1x 2x setup.
Hello Necri, I'm curious about stacking in three slotted [3] level 2 or 3 weapon. Currently I'm building specific weapon for succubus and Incubus farm. Do you have something in mind?
Bro and the abysmal knight is the same effect with 3 abysmal in lunakaligo ? or I should to use 2 abysmal and another card ? great video men bro
Hey bro. If you're making a Lunakaligo for an specific racial/element. Let's say 2 AKs and 1 Strouf Card will make more damage on Wounded Morroc than 3 AKs.
3 AK is decent if you want to kill any MVP but not for compete against a Champion with a more specialized gear.
Necri, have you ever experimented with the scalpel[3]? I keep getting them when leveling my knight on pre-renewal servers but always quit before i ever really dived into carding them.
Hey bro, Scalpel is great, it has better ATK but it is only for transcendent class
What if i am an asura champ and I wanted to deal the most dmg against kiel is it better to go 2 ak + pecopeco egg lunakaligo or triple liberation?
Grande Necri, como siempre tus vídeos son como una biblia para el RO. Ojalá poder encontrar algún buen server en los que poder ponerlos en práctica... ¿No sabrás por casualidad alguno que esté por abrir o que sea estable hoy día?
P.D.: Echo de menos tus dibujos en el Paint con los que introducías los vídeos :'(
¡¡¡ Sigue así !!!
Yo tengo uno que tiene un mes abierto, pero es un server muy niche con poca gente literal 24 on los fines de semana, es más que nada unnserver para estar con tus amigos y así, si te interesa te lo mando
Hi, i do believe that, if you want to keep the versatility of a 4 identical carded weapon (like 4 hydra on a pike), you can replace one of the race or elemental card by a zipper bear card. You deal more damage and still have all your versatility. And honestly, if your pierce consume 10 sp instead of 9 you will never notice the difference. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i do believe it work everywhere because of the low damage of lvl 1 weapon.
I have tested this using a calculator and the zipper bear card is worse in any attempt to emulate it.
@@RafaelROUNDUP no calculator works 100% right.
Zipper is worse
The way Zipper works makes it unsufferable when you do mob train, it drains 1 sp for each attack you made - lets say you use BB on 4 mobs which hits each mob 2 times you end up spending BB + 8 sp, for lvl 10 BB thats 22+8=30 sp which is alot for a kni. (For pierce it migth increase +3 not 1, but i am not sure on this, never tested it)
Necri,
Ninja Magic build and gears please please.
this is so informative i didnt know
what server are you playing at pre-renewal? great guides and videos.
Hey bro, thanks for your comment. I'm not playing currently, but I'll be back soon. I made this guide in my own homemade server with default Pre-re set.
I wonder if this works for boned infiltrator vs bloody infil.
Me gusta como explicas que lo ideal es combinar cartas pero en tus guías simplificadas de leveo/farmeo al final es irrelevante y stackeas 4 cartas del mismo tipo para oneshotear un mob
Interesting
i didn't know a crusader could farm bio3 amazing
Subscribed! Please make vid re: renewal server
Do you have renewal videos for LK?
How about abysmal card combos?
Can i use 4xvadon instead for pasana.. and which is better all around, lance or Halberd[2]
Hey bro,
Yeah, Vadon x4 have the same damage than Hydra x4 against Pasanas. Pike is still the best option for knts because low damage Weapon have more consistent damage.
ahh if only thsi come like 20 years ago xD
hi necri.
is it better to maximize peco riding skills than spear mastery?
please answer my question
many thanks
take both
Hey bro. Yeah, I usally don't take spear mastery at max, so I can max Bowling, Pierce and Spear Boomerang. Peco skills are mandatory.
how about mvp monster?
All in all we should sacrifice a bit of damage for more flexibility
what if i put sword guardian card for bowling bash ? any build LK for bowling bash ?
It would be great, since it is a skill based increase, it works multiplicatively. I don't use that card in guides because it is very hard to get, but it is insanely good.
hay excepción para las abysmal? o pueden funcionar 4 juntas?
Funcionan correctamente juntas, pero para competir MVPs no te recomendaría jugar 4 abysmals. El arma dependería del MVP que quieras matar y de tu personaje.
This is a multiplication.
When u stacked different factors, it will be multiplied because when u had 20% damage to others, then u put another different 20%, and the previous 20% will be multiplied to the new 20% as output damage.
For example, ur damage is 1, then if u had 20% to fire an element monster the dmg output will be 1.2. And then if u add another factor, for example, 20% to formless, the dmg will be 1.2 times 1.2 so u have a final 1.44.
If it is added, u will have 40% dmg, and the dmg output will be 1.4
Againts fire element monster type formless.
So in conclusion, balancing the factor that multiplies the damage is better.
That's what he was saying in the video lol
Boss anong card po ung NSA chain mail
No caso de usar 4 the paper para aumentar o dano crítico é a mesma matemática?
Sim
Poderia me ajudar com status pvp de lord 99/70 de spiral,armas e cartas por favor
Sir what about 3 abysmal and 1 minorous?? Or 2-2 better on MVP?
Most MVP are large, so it's almost the same between both options (unless you're talking about monk/champion). But if you want to kill some that aren't large, you'll lose much power using 2-2.
@@gustavo.paixao Thanks
What server do you play on?
Wait so a Peco egg(.20) a Kaho(.20) kaho(.20) = 68% more dmg.
A Peco egg(.20) a Kaho(.20) Worker Skeleton (.15 +5atk) = 65.6% more dmg +5atk.
+ knocker on head (+5% formless)
Why does the second do more damage on a sleeper chain vs sleepers than the first? is the 5 atk that massive with investigate? i would need 99 base str to one shot with the first card combo but only 93base str to one shot with the second.
i just tell you this one in one of your video because i just watch you take 4 same cards slotted on your weapon
Bro can you give me example weapon for mvp for 99/50 spear knight with no AK and stats please? mvps like // OH OL EDDGA ML OSIRIS DOPPEL DRAKE // thank you man
hi sir necri did you also play Alfheim RO server?? i hope your in. ^^,
im confused I though cards where not taken into acount for shield boomerang
Hey bro, Shield Boomerang always take the bonus from the cards. It ignores the base ATK of your weapon and the elements, but the cards are taken into account.
Great one! How do I get Cross Shield?
Hey bro, if you can't buy it, it is easy to get with a LK, mobbing the Morroc spawns like this:
ua-cam.com/video/8V1ZF-_55QM/v-deo.html&
En cuál server juegas? me dieron hartas ganas de entrar! :D
Hola amigo, ahora mismo no ando jugando, pero planeo volver pronto :P
best cards for a critical assassin
Hey bro! Did you tried soldier skeleton cards and Rogue Treasure? I think they are enough for making a decent critical assassin.
hi can you share your skill point investment?
Welcome bro, there is the build:
Spear Mastery 1
Pierce 10
Spear Boomerang 5
Two-Hand quicken 10
Auto counter 5
Bowling Bash 10
Riding 1
Cavalry Mastery 5
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Total: 47 skill points (job level 48)
Maxing spear mastery is not worthy compared to the points you can use in other active skills to be more versatile, because this build is focused on spaming skills 24/7, and spear mastery ATK doesn't get multiplied in skill damage formula, so it doesn't make any serious difference.
The remaining 2 points, I frequently assign 1 for spear stab and 1 for spear mastery, which give you a few advantage in some cases.
Lods gawa ka renewal knight to lk
la pregunta final sería en un item de 4 slots, cuando elegir 3 cartas iguales y 1 diferente vs 2 cartas iguales y 2 diferentes jaja
ohh.. so weapon with 4 card slots is still the best way to go for huh.. looks like this still stand true.. I'm so poor that I'm only using Eden EQ now though.
sorry i just follow you Where can I download the server you are playing on?
Hey bro, welcome! I'm not playing currently but i have plans of coming back soon.
I'm waiting for you.
Has un tutorial en español Bro
For itens just haver 3 slots best for me is 3x card element like gladius (3) or bastard sword (3), cause Stack with no penalityrs at 50% more damage. Just losing 10% damage but with low coast ;), on pre renewall, or better is a strong weapon with 2 slots? Like a Claymore (2) ir katana (4)?
Man, look the vídeo, you dont lose 10% damage with 3 cards, there is no penality, its Just mix cards do more damage but 3 of same cards Will do 60% more damage.