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Was Peter's vision in Acts 10 about people or food?
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2023
- If you're talking with a "Torah-observant" Christian about the subject of Acts 10 and Peter's vision, they will invariably claim that the vision was only about Gentiles and had nothing to do with food. There are three problems with that. First, the vision was literally about food! God told Peter to eat the animals. Second, on what basis are we willing to allow for a change on the issue of people but not food? That's completely arbitrary. Third, if the vision of the food was solely intended as a metaphor for the Gentiles, well, then Jesus was using a false metaphor. He was essentially saying, "Look, I know in this vision I'm telling you that all food is now clean, but it's not really true. It's just an example I'm using to show you that you can hang out with Gentiles now." No, that is not how God works. And actually, the problem is far deeper than that...
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28 Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. CONTEXT!
When one finds that the gentiles we are trying to reach are the lost tribes then you will realize the gentiles we are trying to reach are not "unclean animals" but clean.
Then said God, Call his name Lo-ammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
Hosea 1:9-11 KJV
As He says also in Hosea: “I will call them My people, who were not My people, And her beloved, who was not beloved.” “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
Romans 9:25-26 NKJV
But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
I Peter 2:9-10 NKJV
The people who are now Yah's people were His people the israelites to begin with. By us preaching to all Nations/Gentiles, the call of Yah will reach to all Israel. Once the fullness of the gentiles come in all Israel will be saved.
But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Matthew 15:24 NKJV
who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
Romans 9:4-5 NKJV
Many are called but few are chosen. The called are the Israelites, those who know they suchs as the Jews and those who don't know they are as they have been lost for generations amongst the gentile. Those who answer the call are the Chosen.
We preach to all Nations so the lost can here and be found.
Shalom.
Context my friend. Connotation, Denotation and context misapplications cause divisions in understanding on both sides. There are other scriptures that portray the opposite and are troubling...so what would be an answer to your dilemma..."sent only to the lost sheep". This is easily solved with logic and clear thinking. Jesus had a job to fulfill first to last and last to first. The gospel was given to literal Israel first...now go further. Paul was sent to the gentiles. Israel rejected and therefore the first became last. The gentiles are accepting and therefore the last becomes first ..to accept. So you see the context of all this matters and an open mind and heart..gets to look at all the contexts. The Torahism causes cognitive dissonance because it contains so much truth, but one little error causes so much division. Yes the Israelites will learn their heritage, yes they will all return but under Yeshua who is God to Jew and Gentile. The New Covenant is above and opens the temple veil to all ..all who accept Yeshua. comment welcome If you watch this guys other videos you will see that after Christ died (who was giving the gospel to the Jews) The apostle Paul went to the gentiles. This video exactly answers the food problem with logic and clear thinking. If it causes cognitive dissonance there is an answer. Yeshua is the entire world's saviour, per the New Testament and clear thinking, such as this video. Its the heart that matters and that lines up with, clear thinking. Its the truth that sets free. Now, it is my opinion that Yeshua and his spirit teach us where we are, however once we learn from it, he will teach us at a new level. Indeed your ideas can be both, personal guidance for where you were and now its time to move to a new ideology and apply the Love of the Saviour to all people imo Even, real gentiles like me and the ones you have a soft heart for, because they have limited knowledge and our conscience tells us so imho. If you need a defense, listen carefully to this brothers other videos. You will get your defense, and from the scriptures.
Europeans are most of the house of Israel out of any other peoples
Peter wondered about the MEANING of the vision...
Exactly, why would he have to wonder if it was about eating!
Hey Rabbi,
Peter thought the same as you, that thus passage was about food!
Then God corrected Peter.
He accepted correction and you should too, or are you going to continue to double down on your error?
Stop calling him Rabbi, he's no righteous teacher of the word of Ha'Shem.
There are three problems with your suggestion that the vision had nothing to do with food. First, the vision was _literally about food!_ God told Peter to eat the animals. Second, on what basis are you willing to allow for a change on the issue of people but not food? That's completely arbitrary. Third, if the vision of the food was solely intended as a metaphor for the Gentiles, well, then Jesus was using a false metaphor. He was essentially saying, "Look, I know in this vision I'm telling you that all food is now clean, but it's not really true. It's just an example I'm using to show you that you can hang out with Gentiles now." No, God does not use false metaphors.
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots No, it's not Rob, stop repeating yourself. You keep forgetting this verse exists!
"And he said to them, You yourselves are aware how it is not lawful or permissible for a Jew to keep company with or to visit or [even] to come near or to speak first to anyone of another nationality, but God has shown and taught me by words that I should not call any human being common or unhallowed or [ceremonially] unclean."
Acts 10:28 AMPC
@@AusterityTea
Rabbinic Judaism Debunked is a great read. In it you'll find out that the pharisees were replaced by the Rabbi's.
The rabbis created their own doctrine, laws & times. So they're in the ditch
@@qw2ps4 No thankyou, I'm not reading it. I would recommend you actually read the Torah, because Christians have dug themselves a deadly grave with all the doctrines the RCC and her children (protestants) have made: numerous false unbiblical doctirnes such as Trinity, Christmas, Easter, divine antinomian Messiah, and other antinomian practices such as disregarding the true Sabbath for Sunday. All of these are doctrines of man that "Christians" have made. Ew. No thankyou.
I also reccomend you search on youtube for the following
"Rational Approach to the Divinity of the Oral Tradion" by the channel "simpletoremember"
It is an excellent video.
“First the vision is literally about food…” nailed it
Yeah, and Genesis 15:17-21 is about torches and ovens.
Okay Sherlock, Acts 10:28 clearly tells us its NOT about food ....
@@ArchDLuxe
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Nope, missed it by a very long mile.
And he said to them, You yourselves are aware how it is not lawful or permissible for a Jew to keep company with or to visit or [even] to come near or to speak first to anyone of another nationality, but God has shown and taught me by words that I should not call any human being common or unhallowed or [ceremonially] unclean.
Acts 10:28 AMPC
@@AusterityTea to begin with, it was not unlawful for a Jew to keep company with a Gentile. It was however, unlawful for a Jew to eat unclean foods. Just because Peter is quoted doesn’t make it truth. So God wasn’t saying He “cleansed Gentiles” as in made it now lawful. If you read Genesis God tells Abraham that all nations would be blessed through him. God never said what Peter claimed. So what did God cleanse? Well thankfully we have loads of Scripture that confirms it was the animals. Like Romans 14, and Scripture that says before the law Noah could eat “unclean” animals… Genesis 9:1-3
He literally tells you what God was revealing to him if you just read it.
agreed, very powerful
No one mentions that Peter REFUSED to eat the animals THREE TIMES!!! He did not rise up and eat. If it was about FOOD then Peter would have OBEYED GOD and rise up to eat the animals.
And Jesus rebuked Peter for it three times. “What God has made clean, do not call common.”
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRootsHey you just quoted Act 10:28 ... when we found out God had corrected Peter on the interpretation of the dream. Once Peter realized it wasn't about food, he went to the spread the gospel to the gentiles, whom he once considered common & unclean!
@@TheBiblicalRoots Yeshua did not rebuke Peter for not eating unclean animals. Where do you get that from? Are you conflating two stories from two different passages? God didn't rebuke Peter from the sky, which would have been the most expected thing for Him refusing Him outrightly.
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366Rabbi Solberg tends to make his doctrine up a fair bit, not unlike his rabbinic forefathers
@@TheBiblicalRoots God just needs to rebuke once, and Peter learned this from the Son of God himself. By the way, the Lord (the Son of God) said to Peter, what God cleansed call not unclean. Who said it, Yeshua or God, and when did God cleanse the animals if that verse is about animals?
I really like the logic used. Definitely the gift of teaching. Ty
First, you continue to deceive your viewers with pretextual views. In Acts 10, start off with an angel visiting a God-fearing man named Cornelius. Then the angel instructs Cornelius to send for Peter. Let's take a minute and examine this call for Peter. Was the revelation that God gave Peter a revelation that he conveyed to Cornelius, that now Peter, being a Jew, can now eat unclean food, or was the revelation about the message of salvation for a God-fearing Gentile being accepted into the flock? Peter did not kill or eat what was revealed to him while in a trance. If he disobeyed God, then why wasn't he rebuked? Second, Peter shed light on the matter that took place; he did not say that God gave him permission to eat pork with Cornelius. What he did say was that God has shown me that I should not call any person profane or unclean.
Hello, Luis! There are three problems with the idea that Peter's vision was only talking about Gentiles. First, the vision was _literally about food!_ God told Peter to eat the animals. Second, on what basis are we willing to allow for a change on the issue of people but not food? That's completely arbitrary. Third, if the vision of the food was solely intended as a metaphor for the Gentiles, well, then Jesus was using a false metaphor. He was essentially saying, "Look, I know in this vision I'm telling you that all food is now clean, but it's not really true. It's just an example I'm using to show you that you can hang out with Gentiles now." No, that is not how God works.
Here's the full explanation of this vision and how it is based on the Torah's teaching about food and people: ua-cam.com/video/RIZyCg-KVyI/v-deo.html
Shalom, RLS
@RLSolberg so according you perspectives its about food and not the message of salvation. Well let's examine the words from God whick Ysehua is revealing to Peter.. According to you, Yeshua is commanding Peter to eat unclean animals that God deemed detestable an an abomination these unclean that God abhor for his people to eat, and you want us to accept that Yeshua suggesting that Peter break God's commanding by eating detestable unclean animals, is that what you want us to believe?
@@TheBiblicalRootsRobert Solberg, maybe you should read what I posted if you want to know what the trance Peter went into was all about according to that passage. The question you should respond to is: why in Acts 15 did Peter not mention that you can eat unclean food?
I have an answer..how do the scriptures and logic and clear thinking go together. With the Spirit. One interpretation solves the problem and allows one's heart, logic and clear thinking to operate together with no cognitive dissonance but the other causes bondage to a law (which was exactly what the old law was given...a tutor). Now some of us have a really good tutor, because we have seen the exactness of the law Moses. So should we place ourselves under that or ..does it make more sense to put our hearts on the scale and him who judges the heart perfectly. I'll take the perfect judge of all hearts...both Jew and Gentile.
Hey Rabbi Solberg,
Just like Rabbinic Judaism where they've literally taken scriptures out of context, added to scripture, and out right changed it to say make it say what they want it to say, you to have invented your own version of Christianity.
Not to say it's all you. Many Christian theologians have followed in the path of these Rabbis and made their own religion too!
Stop calling him Rabbi, he's no righteous teacher of the word of Ha'Shem.
@@AusterityTea😂🐒
@@tbishop4961Very mature.
@@AusterityTea you realize "rabbi" is a term of endearment and not an official title, right?
@@tbishop4961Rabbis are actually there own sect of Judaism!
Rabbinic Judaism Debunked is a very good book telling us how they came into being and the changes they made to Gods commands fulfilling Dan7:25!
It's not a term of endearment, it's quite the opposite!
Nice simple explanation! Thank you!
2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit,which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Brothers and sisters Christ is simple and easy to understand, do not allow yourselves to be deceived. Open up the Bible and read. Be humble, sincere in your learning, ask for help in understanding, you will get it.
understandings can fail but a pure heart will be bothered by evil. The spirit can together with the scriptures figure it out but one without the other can not. (hence stumbling blocks)
“For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.” (Isaiah 66:15-17, KJV)
Can anybody say rapture?
context , if you are in the Law of Moses following or not is symbolized by it. So according to the new covenant the same thing will apply, to those of evil hearts. No longer by what they eat but by their hearts, which the NT example explained...what comes out of the heart imo
The vision was to point out that 'gentiles' who do NOT have the law count too. The Garden is the key.
Everybody is stuck on the idea of eating an 'apple' being the cause of our ruin... that 'tree' represents a 'person', and that we should 'see them' as for what they are... Temples of the God's spirit and no more. If we judge the person - by seeing the abominable image in them... we are in error... God is 'working' there also... baptizing with fire, to free them of their bonds, via faithful wounds and even scouraging - thus by HIS stripes, THEY (we) are 'healed'.
We HAD TO eat of that tree in order to DIE that we could LIVE and live life to the FULL, and full of choices that a MORAL COMPASS allows one to have (and use) 'judgement'.
Man is appointed 'once' to die (God appointed that time - in the day we eat of it) and then... viola!! The 'judgement'. This then is when the GREAT TRIBULATION began - a looong loooong time ago.
A 'lamb' takes away 'sin' because it has NOT SINNED but only done the perfect works. God has provisions all throughout the OT for forgiveness and repentence (Jeremiah 18:7-10 is one of and even says... the 'any time' will do.)
Jesus was NOT supposed to, nor needed to be executed (1 Cor. 2:8), as this 'once to die verse' is the mystery from the foundations of the earth.
Isaiah: "So shall he sprinkle many nations; The Kings shall shut their mouths at him: For 'that' which had not been told them shall they see; And 'that' which they had not heard shall they consider."
And in your 'hearing and seeing' (this)... this prophecy has been fulfilled.
Gimme a call. Let us settle the matters - ALL of them. 😊
Shalom.
“And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” (Acts 10:28, KJV)
I do not read anywhere in here about food.
wait you don't see thus all foods are now clean? look into it
@peterhook2258 It is not in the bible. It is in the codex sinaiticus.
If you look in the Greek that comes from Antioch, you will not be able to find this.
@@peterhook2258
Wait, what is Jesus definition of food!??
Look into it!
What's the excuse for God telling us in leviticus to deny ourselves, and do no work on the tenth day of the seventh month, calling it a "permanent regulation" twice.
He even said, "both the citizen and the foreigner living with you"
Leviticus 16:29-31
that was a law to whom the covenant was given. That people who did not follow that covenant realized the loss of it for a reason , including teaching that laws and following them do not equal righteousness. Now Christ fulfilled that law perfectly and the temple veil is rent for all who follow him. The teacher (tutor ie Torah) is still a sacred teacher but now to be applied to matters of the heart (clean and unclean). Connotation, Denotation and Context matter. The spirit can navigate it but the knowledge and understanding of man alone..can not.
@peterhook2258 That is false. I literally stated that it says "the citizen and the foreigner"
Matthew 5:17 THROUGH 20
Also, how are you gonna say that it no longer stands when the most high called it "permanent regulation"
@@JamezEd1tz the foreigner that dwelt among them..this is a "law" . So if you live in mexico and they have laws, you follow them because it is there law, or you leave. The law was for Israel and those who dwelt "among" you in community not those who do not dwell among you. Notice that..context
@@peterhook2258 okay, so ignore the most high calling it permanent, and ignore the scripture I gave you
@@peterhook2258
So Israel ended up in captivity, they were sold into slavery and some were even killed, all for not following God's commands.
Now we have Christians saying don't follow Gods commands because we don't need to because of Jesus.
Don't worry God forgives you when you don't follow His commands!
Why do Christians believe they can get away from judgement for doing the same as Israel?
Like somehow God has more than one law!
That's something that boggles my mind!
Robert Solberg, it appears that many of your followers lack interest in your topic because they are not commenting as in the past; another way of putting it, you are causing mental weariness among your followers due to your repetitious videos.
Good point
he is still reacing many. trust me
"So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him and said, 'You went into the house of uncircumcised men and ate with them.'"
~ Acts 11 : 2ff
Literally about eating food.
Rabbi Solberg
Rabbinic Judaism Debunked is a book that shows how the Rabbis came into being and how they consequentially changed God's doctrine fulfilling Dan7:25!
You sir are promoting the same type of ideology!
Because you think Gods changed His laws you'll have to contend with the scriptures that tell us God is the same & that He never changes!
I don't see an issue. God is the same. He will give a law that we will fail at so that we see his mercy and goodness and appreciate it. And come to know its only his mercy that ultimately matters above all to those who follow him. Exactly the same, forever.
@@peterhook2258
I see alot of people say similar things like you have.
But like you most pass over deuteronomy 30:11 where it says it's not too difficult!
It tells us it's not in heaven, it's not across the ocean, but it's very near....that it's in your heart!
So you see it was a heart issue with Israel & like Israel it's a heart issue with the rest of the population!
Their hearts not right!
Gods not gonna force you to love Him. Hes not going to force you to follow His commands.
You have to do it with gladness. You have to rejoice in His ways.
You have to shed this rabbinic Christianity that rabbi Solberg preaches and embrace biblical Judaism which is what Jesus taught!
Shalom
Jesus could have just as easily let down a sheet full of Gentiles & said "Hey Peter! Have a dinner party!" Peter: "No, Lord, I have never dined with Gentile scum!" 21st-Century Torahites: "Jesus is clearly teaching here about keeping kosher dietary laws!" 🙅♀️🤷♀️🤦♀️
He could have done the same with John in Revelation or better yet, He could have done it in regard to His parables. However, this is not what was done
@RLSolberg the basis you demand in point #2 is Peter's expess application (Acts 10:28b). I'm fairly confident that if you can find Peter making a similar statement about food, almost every Torah-adherent Christian stands ready to agree that the vision is also "about" food. The only problem for you is that the Bible never records such a statement.
And yet, the vision was _literally_ about food. ;-)
RLS
@RLSolberg I would draw a distinction between "about" food and "of" food. Joseph dreamed "of" the sun, moon, and 11 stars bowing, but it was undeniably "about" his father, mother, and brothers. This is a subtle but important distinction, especially when dealing with dreams/visions within scripture. An unwillingness to admit as much shows ignorance or bias. For my part, I doubt you are ignorant.
@@TheBiblicalRootsApparently you need to be spoon-fed the verse he referenced.
"And he said to them, You yourselves are aware how it is not lawful or permissible for a Jew to keep company with or to visit or [even] to come near or to speak first to anyone of another nationality, but God has shown and taught me by words that I should not call any human being common or unhallowed or [ceremonially] unclean."
Acts 10:28 AMPC
@@TheBiblicalRootsactually gentiles would bury their dead in their homes which is why the Jew would not eat with them as it would cause ritual impurity. Had nothing to do with food everything to do with purity and those practices had started changing around that time.
@@ArchDLuxe Hi, Arch! There are three problems with your suggestion that the vision had nothing to do with food. First, the vision was _literally about (of) food!_ God told Peter to eat the animals. Second, on what basis are you willing to allow for a change on the issue of people but not food? That's completely arbitrary. Third, if the vision of the food was solely intended as a metaphor for the Gentiles, well, then Jesus was using a false metaphor. He was essentially saying, "Look, I know in this vision I'm telling you that all food is now clean, but it's not really true. It's just an example I'm using to show you that you can hang out with Gentiles now." No, God does not use false metaphors.
RLS
The books of acts is 100% fan fiction. Building theology based on it is insane
The book of Acts is 100% the Word of God. Building theology based on it is imperative.
@@TheBiblicalRoots It's not scripture along the line as the Tanakh, none of the NT is. Building theology based on the NT while disregarding entirely the Tanakh is extremely dangerous.
@@TheBiblicalRoots
It's not imperative to build your doctrine on it. This clean food doctrine you've invented is just like the rabbis, not based on biblical truth!
@@qw2ps4 if you know the creator, everything else is just opinion
@@tbishop4961
Psalm 2:12
You best do homage to The Son lest He become angry and you perish!
1 John 2:23
If you deny The Son you don't have The Father!
The one who confesses The Son has The Father.
The Father & Son are a package deal you canNOT have one without the other because you'll perish!