Seriously... Philipp is just the sickest of them all... Any who really understands Ving Tsun would say that. His speed, 100% accuracy, and strengh is overpowered.
Flipjenner27 so are you saying that wing chun must be "no elbows, no knees, no leg control, no groundwork, but only bong sao pac sao and punch every fucking time? you searious? and the other 90% of the program??? this is SHIT
what do you think Ving Tsun is about? to do a big show, play around with your opponent? Philipp uses every chance to hit. and look how focused he is. and that is exactly what it is about. all the rest is just to get the way free for the punch. you want see some show? watch jackie chan, he is funny and does an amazing performance as stuntman ;)
In wing chun you make a person stick to you by being very aggressive in being close quarter, thus forcing bridge contact for trapping, as beautifully demonstrated by Sifu Bayer. His chain punching is superb with him skilfully controlling and attacking.
Wing chun people force close quarter fighting by cutting the ring off with stance work thus forcing bridge contact. Thats when skills from sticky hands come into play.
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Auch wenn ich persönlich nicht viel vom WC/VT etc. halte, muss ich zugeben, das was man den Videos so entlocken kann, scheint für PB zu sprechen. Denn diese Leung Ting Flasche hat das WC vollkommen ins Poser-Abseits gedrängt.
Ich kann dir ehrlich sagen, ich hab WT und WC hinter mir, lerne aktuell in einer Phillipp Bayer Schule. Das ist gar kein Vergleich !!! Alles was ich hier momentan lerne ist auf den Punkt und funktioniert auch im freien Sparring / unter Stress !! Und das beste ist, das hier auf diesen ganzen Sifu und Großmeisternonsens verzichtet wird. Keine Graduierungen, keine Prüfungen, keine egomanischen Narzisten, kein Klamottenzwang oder versteckte Gebühren oder Geheimnisse. Nur Ving Tsun 🙏👊
Some people are so deluded. The arguments are from the playground. How would Wing Chun fare in the street against a world class boxer etc etc etc because if you ever use Wing Chun in the street it will be against Pacquaio or Tyson Fury...Very likely scenario? Yeah right.... it's boring now........
there are many Bayer videos on youtube, but they all show only vingtsun against vingtsun and in chisao situations... no way to find Bayer vs a common street attack... why?
Because the other fights ends quickly ( if the opponent don't now fight style like judo ) or because in this way we can see more than pacsao,punch or only beacause Maybe (i'm not sure )philip don't do MMA
When is Ving Tsun going to be put in a real test to other martial artists? Ving Tsun is all theory and fighting against same fighters. Little sparring, because your teachers tell you that you have to learn the basics and learning your basics may be over 5 years, LOL. There is no grappling, because you guys think you may not need it, but reality is really different, once it goes to the ground against experienced fighter with a bit of boxing knowledge, its over for you.
Alan Orr's MMA Team would be one example and another one would be Qi La La who is fighting with Wing Chun, some Xing Yi and BJJ as a professional MMA fighter. Wing Chun was developed by people living in mountainy areas or who spend a lot of time on boats. It is more focused around striking, but you could argue that the trapping is a kind of grappling where you control your oponent without holding on to him to not risk being controlled or taken off balance by trying to hold on to your oponent. Their are takedowns, but in the area where it was developed, groundifghting was pretty much nonsensical because there was no space for it. It is also a very weird concept to think of combat sports as real fights.
@@jadenmanuelmusic The sad truth is, he is probably not. Most of these people complaining about Wing Chun saw this one video where Xu Xiaodong beat up this on scammer pretending to be a Wing Chun Master and now they all believe that this one video demonstrates that Wing Chun is bullshit because most of them missed the bit about Xu Xiadong challenging not whole styles but specific people who obviously were scammers, to show they were full of shit. Also in all honesty. A professional fighter who usually trains for hours and hours to fight in a ring, obviously will beat the less experienced and trained fighter, in a ring fight, no matter the style.
The next time you visit such instructors, bring some non-Wing Chun guys to spar with them and see if this kind of sticky-hands is workable on them. Most chunners do not realize it works 'beautifully' because they are all behaving in the same artificial and awkward manner. If a non-chunner were to be in this video, he wouldn't be able to do most of the things you see here because the non-Wing Chun guy wouldn't 'stick' like them.
adrian51gray training tool of what? To produce what result for actual combat? Could you show a video or proof that Wing Chun guys had developed this structure and balance in real combats against non-Wing Chun guys?
i thought its enough someone to eplain the purpose of "chi sao". and as he says in the video (and he agrees to you in that point) : chi sao doesnt work in a fight. its just "sensitiviry" is trained, you react on gaps and so on. personal experience, as a wing chun student: its not about the enemy sticking on me, but myself who is "chasing" the enemy. "closing the gap"/"building a bridge" is even the name of one of the 3 the wing-chun-forms. i hope you see what i mean. (english is not my first language...not even third)
Philipp ist einfach der Beste. Die Energie und Leidenschaft, die er hat, ist unbeschreiblich. Er ist einfach Kämpfer mit Leib und Seele
Seriously... Philipp is just the sickest of them all... Any who really understands Ving Tsun would say that. His speed, 100% accuracy, and strengh is overpowered.
Agreed! This is exactly how wing tsun is supposed to be (at least in my opinion). Philip Bayers speed and structure is absolutely amazing!
Flipjenner27 so are you saying that wing chun must be "no elbows, no knees, no leg control, no groundwork, but only bong sao pac sao and punch every fucking time? you searious? and the other 90% of the program??? this is SHIT
what do you think Ving Tsun is about? to do a big show, play around with your opponent? Philipp uses every chance to hit. and look how focused he is. and that is exactly what it is about. all the rest is just to get the way free for the punch.
you want see some show? watch jackie chan, he is funny and does an amazing performance as stuntman ;)
@MrAkaalis bayer is better..wang not even better then jerry yeung..
Maybe Philip's one hand got lost, but still, he is known as one of the best martial artists. (Wing Chun)
Huge respect.
Great Grand Master Philip Bayer my Friends.
Good Luck in his school
Sifu Bayer does proper chain punching and that is to control and hit. Other wing chun people chain punch without trapping.
Great video. I'd love to get over and train with Sifu Bayer.
Einfach unglaublich !!
Unglaublich gut! 👍👍👍
The greatest!
At 1:12 I am trying to figure out how on earth he manipulates a long pole with one hand and a stump.
I always liked the BGM for this video on Sifu Phillip Bayer
Good speed, impressive.
Respekt. Sehr gutes Meister
Awesome video!
Sehr schönes Video. Macht Spaß
sehr gutes video herr bayer : )
anyone can tell me the difference between philipp bayer and barry lee ving tsun aproach? or is it the same?
Similar. They had the same teacher and they were his two best students
Seriously awesome video. But geez! Is that Charles Manson at 1:38.....??
Challenger draws a razor sharp sword, Philipp takes out a tennis ball and puts it on his nub
In wing chun you make a person stick to you by being very aggressive in being close quarter, thus forcing bridge contact for trapping, as beautifully demonstrated by Sifu Bayer. His chain punching is superb with him skilfully controlling and attacking.
that is why wing chun people can never win against real fighters...
@@KovacsZoltan12 why?
Maby the best ever.
Wing chun people force close quarter fighting by cutting the ring off with stance work thus forcing bridge contact. Thats when skills from sticky hands come into play.
Good value! Would also like to see free sparring
probably one of the best german wing chun instructor including emin boztepe
que tristeza no tener algun maestro del linaje philipp bayer aca en Argentina :(
The legend
I'd like to see him chi Sao with Sam kwok, because kwok only uses amateurs for his demonstrations
True wing Chun master
flawless wing chun
Good editor, especially the bits that were speed-ed up.
Cool intro ;) ( LOGO )
Yes, the best intro (logo) :))
i make in 3D ;)
MASTER PHILIPP BAYER HD
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Ving Tsun Kung Fu video edited from many videos from various trainings and seminars by Kung Fu master Philipp Bayer.
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imprecionante.
my idol
What with his left hand??
It is gone. He lost it before he went to Hong Kong to learn Ving Tsun.
An motorcycle accident in his younger years from what I understand
No, in the military a grenade detonator exploded in his hand.
Auch wenn ich persönlich nicht viel vom WC/VT etc. halte, muss ich zugeben, das was man den Videos so entlocken kann, scheint für PB zu sprechen. Denn diese Leung Ting Flasche hat das WC vollkommen ins Poser-Abseits gedrängt.
Ich kann dir ehrlich sagen, ich hab WT und WC hinter mir, lerne aktuell in einer Phillipp Bayer Schule. Das ist gar kein Vergleich !!! Alles was ich hier momentan lerne ist auf den Punkt und funktioniert auch im freien Sparring / unter Stress !! Und das beste ist, das hier auf diesen ganzen Sifu und Großmeisternonsens verzichtet wird. Keine Graduierungen, keine Prüfungen, keine egomanischen Narzisten, kein Klamottenzwang oder versteckte Gebühren oder Geheimnisse. Nur Ving Tsun 🙏👊
So true.
good tha's!!
Lol My Master ist The Student of him
Hay
The big part in this video are saying that philip has sticky hand, but I met him and i can say for sure he hasn't
Sieht gut aus vielleicht aber bringt sehr wenig bzw nichts alleine schon wie angegriffen wird
Some people are so deluded. The arguments are from the playground. How would Wing Chun fare in the street against a world class boxer etc etc etc because if you ever use Wing Chun in the street it will be against Pacquaio or Tyson Fury...Very likely scenario? Yeah right.... it's boring now........
there are many Bayer videos on youtube, but they all show only vingtsun against vingtsun and in chisao situations... no way to find Bayer vs a common street attack... why?
Because the other fights ends quickly ( if the opponent don't now fight style like judo ) or because in this way we can see more than pacsao,punch or only beacause Maybe (i'm not sure )philip don't do MMA
Wing chumps 😂🤣😅
When is Ving Tsun going to be put in a real test to other martial artists? Ving Tsun is all theory and fighting against same fighters. Little sparring, because your teachers tell you that you have to learn the basics and learning your basics may be over 5 years, LOL. There is no grappling, because you guys think you may not need it, but reality is really different, once it goes to the ground against experienced fighter with a bit of boxing knowledge, its over for you.
Wth is with u people go take some wing chun classes and stfu..
Where is the grappling in boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, karate, taekwando...?
Alan Orr's MMA Team would be one example and another one would be Qi La La who is fighting with Wing Chun, some Xing Yi and BJJ as a professional MMA fighter.
Wing Chun was developed by people living in mountainy areas or who spend a lot of time on boats. It is more focused around striking, but you could argue that the trapping is a kind of grappling where you control your oponent without holding on to him to not risk being controlled or taken off balance by trying to hold on to your oponent.
Their are takedowns, but in the area where it was developed, groundifghting was pretty much nonsensical because there was no space for it.
It is also a very weird concept to think of combat sports as real fights.
@@jadenmanuelmusic The sad truth is, he is probably not. Most of these people complaining about Wing Chun saw this one video where Xu Xiaodong beat up this on scammer pretending to be a Wing Chun Master and now they all believe that this one video demonstrates that Wing Chun is bullshit because most of them missed the bit about Xu Xiadong challenging not whole styles but specific people who obviously were scammers, to show they were full of shit.
Also in all honesty. A professional fighter who usually trains for hours and hours to fight in a ring, obviously will beat the less experienced and trained fighter, in a ring fight, no matter the style.
The next time you visit such instructors, bring some non-Wing Chun guys to spar with them and see if this kind of sticky-hands is workable on them. Most chunners do not realize it works 'beautifully' because they are all behaving in the same artificial and awkward manner. If a non-chunner were to be in this video, he wouldn't be able to do most of the things you see here because the non-Wing Chun guy wouldn't 'stick' like them.
***** Sticking hands and sparring are two different things. Sticking hands is only a training tool for training your balance and structure etc.
adrian51gray training tool of what? To produce what result for actual combat? Could you show a video or proof that Wing Chun guys had developed this structure and balance in real combats against non-Wing Chun guys?
*****
there is a guy on youtube called "Master wong". he made some videos abou sticky-hands. ("chi sao")
just type in "master wong why do chi sao"
Stefan B that is called demonstration. Did he spar with anyone?
i thought its enough someone to eplain the purpose of "chi sao". and as he says in the video (and he agrees to you in that point) : chi sao doesnt work in a fight. its just "sensitiviry" is trained, you react on gaps and so on.
personal experience, as a wing chun student: its not about the enemy sticking on me, but myself who is "chasing" the enemy. "closing the gap"/"building a bridge" is even the name of one of the 3 the wing-chun-forms.
i hope you see what i mean. (english is not my first language...not even third)