Collecting Addicts Episode 59: Steelies Better Than Alloys, Sleeping in Cars, & Steiner's Stardom

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  • @fpieracc
    @fpieracc 9 місяців тому +16

    Manish's journey lusting after the 456 is simply amazing
    I'm so happy and also sad it may be ending soon

  • @StruggerStrugger
    @StruggerStrugger 9 місяців тому +20

    Loving the new, earlier release time. Thanks for the show.

  • @cerbie70
    @cerbie70 9 місяців тому +24

    I really hope Manish gets this 456. I am an admirer of these cars too. Was very tempted once but rather boringly paid a lump off the mortgage instead.
    Sleeping in cars: A 1980s Fiat Panda. The back seat was just a couple of poles with a piece of cloth between them suspended in the back. Unhook the back seat and lay it down to sleep on. So many times, when I was a student, I went out to the pub and had a skin full and slept in that car in the college car park.

    • @hannes6295
      @hannes6295 9 місяців тому

      Hoovies garage is gonna sale his manual one. That would be a good candidate for Manish

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      i was a homeless teenager in the 80's, cars left open were my hotels :) from memory an Austin Maxi was quite roomy and a Hillman Imp was awful :)

  • @Allankhun
    @Allankhun 9 місяців тому +15

    2 Car garage!
    it's summer of 1987, and you live in Miami, and life is good. You are running a successful business importing flour from South America. Business is so good that money is not a concern, however space is. You only have room for 2 cars. One must be able to carry 3 of your business associates and the relevant equipment needed in the flour selling business. The other car must be something rare, something exotic, something that won't be outshined by anything when you park in front of the nightclub. Both cars should have a correct image for a successful flour importer and distributor.
    Love the podcast, a nice little Friday treat!

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      lol@successful flour importer and distributor. a take on the white powder kingpin i suppose

  • @Andy_T79
    @Andy_T79 9 місяців тому +8

    Loved this week's guest episode with the Man from Delmonte covering for Neil Clifford 👍

    • @gavin18787
      @gavin18787 9 місяців тому

      Thought it was the professor character from jurassic Park at first 😂

  • @sofiadurao312
    @sofiadurao312 9 місяців тому +3

    Harris, you got the lady car thing 100%. Everyone else a little bit miles away from what a modern 50-year-old woman is after. Well done! As a 50-year-old woman who likes to drive and look sensual at the same time, the classic has to be Italian, no other possibility, although the Z8 is a very good option...

  • @clfield2
    @clfield2 9 місяців тому +5

    It was lovely to hear the tone lower at the two car garage...😂

  • @mikerayner5938
    @mikerayner5938 9 місяців тому +1

    Great subjects as always. Chris Cooper. Your Olivia Rodrigo choice was fab. The video is interesting. Her Carly Simon cover is superb. She makes you believe she’s actually been slighted.

  • @jellebouwhuis1213
    @jellebouwhuis1213 9 місяців тому +1

    So happy you picked my 2 cars garage! on to the next! enjoyed it loads!

  • @ChrisDorgan
    @ChrisDorgan 9 місяців тому +3

    The race car air jack system was the first thing I thought of too. Pain in the ass trying to find the strength point to put jack under, or even fit a regular jack under the car to do the simplest thing.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      we should use airbags and mini compressor it feels

  • @davidmychannel7806
    @davidmychannel7806 9 місяців тому

    Probably your best podcast yet. Well done.

  • @gordonsimpson3235
    @gordonsimpson3235 9 місяців тому +7

    Hydraulic built in jacks was quite common on premium 1920's/30's cars.
    Rolls Royce Phantom 111 for example.
    Agree on the topic of steel vs alloy wheels....given the current manufacturer obsession with weight saving to reduce co2 rating....unlikely to happen.
    Sorry to be a pedant Neil, but the sale of former Bristol assets, was at the iconic BOC building in Windlesham, (designed to resemble an Oxygen molecule), NOT at Bristol's factory. This building and its grounds now belong to GMA who have built the new factory in the grounds nearer the motorway.

  • @roryoconnor5917
    @roryoconnor5917 9 місяців тому

    Manish you get it! Excellent choice of The Rainbow by Talk Talk. Big love.

  • @kevincoombs7348
    @kevincoombs7348 9 місяців тому +12

    Sleeping in Cars. In '70 my girlfriend and I drove from Southville Bristol to St Ives Cornwall. In my Austin Healey Sprite mk2. Pre motorways in the SW, we "slept" somewhere in Devon and definitely never again. However in 2 weeks my GF will be my wife of 50 years, so she wasn't put off (me)...

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +2

      a perfect test for a wife imo lol

  • @vokstar
    @vokstar 9 місяців тому +9

    The speed rule in Australia is 3% over, that is fine and dandy but when they introduced that rule, the Australian standard for accuracy for speedos was 5%...

    • @alechall7082
      @alechall7082 9 місяців тому +2

      Massachusetts is 20%. I can't imagine getting pulled over for doing 75 in a 65 or 30 in a 25. It would just never happen. Though our speed limits are much lower than the UK, for example.

    • @kevrobierts8235
      @kevrobierts8235 9 місяців тому

      ​@@alechall7082 alloy wheel anyday

    • @vokstar
      @vokstar 9 місяців тому +1

      @@alechall7082 It's dumb because you can get done for speeding when overtaking. The only funny thing about it is I have it on good authority when they changed the fix speed cameras to 3% over in one place, a hell of a lot of cop cars got busted.

  • @JB-xd9dr
    @JB-xd9dr 9 місяців тому

    Chris. You describe so well finding the right position to sleep in a car! Brilliant :)

  • @maximusdecimus111
    @maximusdecimus111 9 місяців тому

    Neil with a couple of unappreciated all timers in this... 'Fred again' killed me off.
    Also, snazzy hat and cutlers as always Mr Clifford. The man is a style icon.

  • @TP-3000
    @TP-3000 9 місяців тому +6

    I am so happy that Manish has found his Lola!

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      its a boy! haha

    • @drewwrobel564
      @drewwrobel564 9 місяців тому

      @@PazLeBon Lola by the Kinks?!??? But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man and so is Lola

    • @jackiechan8840
      @jackiechan8840 9 місяців тому +2

      Chris needs to do a video on it with Manish at some point.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +1

      @@drewwrobel564 no lol that lola deffo a fella, likethe car hahhahaha

  • @kesannaidoo7801
    @kesannaidoo7801 9 місяців тому +1

    Listening to this while waiting for my friend to arrive with a tow rope because my NB MX-5 has sprung a sudden coolant leak on my way to work. Lovely

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +1

      nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... at least be cheap as chips to repair the little devil

  • @newguyoz
    @newguyoz 9 місяців тому

    Best of luck with the car purchase Manish. I hope this starts a fantastic journey of Ferarri ownership for you and plenty of driving stories to come on the pod.

  • @EdgeRowing
    @EdgeRowing 9 місяців тому +1

    You guys crack me up every time! keep the nonsense coming!

  • @townsjim
    @townsjim 9 місяців тому +1

    Love Harris' social commentary in the first segment 👍🏻

  • @ChrisDorgan
    @ChrisDorgan 9 місяців тому +1

    Edwards two car garage monologue had me absolutely wetting myself!

  • @LüksSosyalizm
    @LüksSosyalizm 9 місяців тому

    Two car garage intro was quite a positive change from the usual, it very quickly made me realise why the usual is the usual 😅

  • @user-of-petrochemicals
    @user-of-petrochemicals 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the Breitling Emergency Mr Clifford !

  • @stephenlord3851
    @stephenlord3851 9 місяців тому +2

    Missed out the best steel wheels - Lotus Elan S2 with chrome hub cap, or later models with knock offs

  • @timc924
    @timc924 9 місяців тому

    "Cruise -control on an old shitter", is spot-on. Driving an awful lot as I do in old motors and modern's in town and on the motorway, CC has saved my license, my livelihood and my sanity.

  • @DRRCreations
    @DRRCreations 9 місяців тому +1

    I've lived in Cornwall my whole life, I've belonged to several car clubs for decades and actively search out car events to go to and I haven't ever heard of the Lands End Trial! I really wish car groups would actually advertise things! 🤷‍♂🤪...............Also thanks for another fantastic episode! 👌😁

  • @tshegosepeng458
    @tshegosepeng458 9 місяців тому

    Edward's 2-car Garage presso was fantastic 😂

  • @MrThrustSSC
    @MrThrustSSC 9 місяців тому

    Spirit Of Eden really is one of, if not the best album ever in my opinion. Manish!

  • @thenewvoice8
    @thenewvoice8 9 місяців тому +1

    I love Cruise Control! The adaptive one is the best. I just sit and let it do its thing on the long drives up the Hume Hwy. Mind you, I love playing the No Breaking game with the old cruise control, just see how long you'd be able to travel without having to touch the break and turn it off.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      ive owned my old bmw foryearrrrs and always been scared to use the cruise control incase it breaks something :/

  • @Miggy2j
    @Miggy2j 9 місяців тому

    Bring on the 456 Manish! I can't wait to hear more about it 👏

  • @EdgeRowing
    @EdgeRowing 9 місяців тому

    Manish - your car choices were gorgeous

  • @rustyabandoned5561
    @rustyabandoned5561 9 місяців тому

    I’m from Australia and have slept in cars on many an interstate road trip but I distinctly remember sleeping in an rental Escort van touring England and Scotland in 1997 for 2 weeks and also in my own 80 pound Vauxhall Cavalier Sri in the same year. Loved that car

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +1

      dude, if it aint cold n wet it dont count :)

  • @zn9861
    @zn9861 9 місяців тому +2

    What a nice way to wake up

  • @JB-xd9dr
    @JB-xd9dr 9 місяців тому

    Big supporter of the micro nap. Do it often. Quick tip. With an iPhone, just hold down the Siri button and say how long you want to nap and it sets the timer. Just so much simpler than having to go via the actual times/alarm settings etc

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      it usually takes me about 4hours to fall asleep even when knackered

  • @johnking9754
    @johnking9754 9 місяців тому

    RE Sleeping in a car: Did you know that in a Honda Element and the mid-80’s Civic station wagon, if you take the front headrests off, the seats recline flat to line up perfectly with the rear seats, and the rear seat backs recline to make a nice bed. Slept a few nights on camping trips when the weather was shit.

  • @paulgr333
    @paulgr333 9 місяців тому

    I love a micro nap in my car! 15-20 minutes early afternoon a couple of times a week. Brilliant reboot. Been doing it for decades

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      lol so thats 40,000 hours sleeping in a car , too funny :)

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 9 місяців тому

    Another great episode. you always make my day , when are you adding some Moto GP talk 😊😅. Gunther is working more now that he is not team principle 😂😂😂

  • @Silver3ides
    @Silver3ides 9 місяців тому

    Yr 2000'ish .... Myself and a security guard had great fun trying to get a pigeon out of Bristol Cars , Concorde Road , Patchway one Sunday afternoon .. It was setting the alarm off .. 1st time i'd ever seen Dodge Viper there on the ramps to ! .. really old school place.. . 'Gert lush' as us Bristolians say .

  • @NewCastleIndiana
    @NewCastleIndiana 9 місяців тому

    2:17 cruise control. Invented by the BLIND engineer, Dr. Teetor in Hagerstown, Indiana near where I grew up.
    Coincidentally last night was the movie premiere in Hagerstown, Indiana of the movie documentary about him. One of the guys that works for me went to it.
    One of the red race cars that I see at Goodwood has a black oval decal fixed to the side for perfect circle piston rings. That was the company that he founded. A lot of my family, including myself work there.

  • @patrickandrews7631
    @patrickandrews7631 9 місяців тому

    I once owned a 1994 Buick Park Avenue and the drivers seat was ideal for napping, would fold nearly flat.

  • @rolo6477
    @rolo6477 9 місяців тому

    @ManishPandey top music choice 👍

  • @andygtv
    @andygtv 9 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone listen to the music bit at the end?

  • @PrinceBarin77
    @PrinceBarin77 9 місяців тому

    Happy Friday! And Horizon by Artbat. Absolute banger 👏

  • @angeloah
    @angeloah 9 місяців тому

    Great one gents, thanks.

  • @Joan082010
    @Joan082010 9 місяців тому

    Last time I slept overnight in my car was at the Nurburgring. Drove 4h from Belgium to attend the Collecting Cars cars and coffee. Drove there the evening before so I’d be on time. Took my brother along.
    The morning I looked through my mails to see were the event would take place, to then find an email in my spam that said the event was annulled 😂. Went to the bike races instead, luckily great weather…. Ended up with a sunstroke 🙈.
    But still a great weekend and way less horrible than the story of Mannish.

  • @harveyellman-brown4855
    @harveyellman-brown4855 9 місяців тому

    Button butler voiced by Chris Harris made my morning 👏🏻

  • @gordonsimpson3235
    @gordonsimpson3235 9 місяців тому +25

    Chris H, I don't know why you are giving Edward a hard time while he sets the scene for the Cote d'Azure scenario....the last thing us subscribers need is for this podcast to be PC!
    How about a mint condition M-B 280-3.5 SE Cab, Navy Blue with cream hide for our middle aged Boulevard cruiser

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +1

      pc is what we make it imo

    • @simoncoppingongoogle850
      @simoncoppingongoogle850 9 місяців тому +2

      Give Edward a brake...
      He's a
      Man of the people 😂😂😂😂

    • @harvinmahal
      @harvinmahal 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought pc was a computer...?

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому +1

      @@harvinmahal thats just silly, obviously a police constable

  • @ToneFuentes
    @ToneFuentes 9 місяців тому

    Edward's two car garage was epic! 😂😂😂😂

  • @davidruddick3346
    @davidruddick3346 9 місяців тому +1

    Agree with Manish,I tried to read Gunther Steiner’s book and in the end gave up!

  • @andrewhurstcars
    @andrewhurstcars 9 місяців тому +2

    Neil has gone Thomas Crown Affair style this week.
    Park Lane used to be 40mph limit going up and 30mph going down, until 2020.

  • @jjperera3389
    @jjperera3389 9 місяців тому

    I love cruse control as well helps with long motor way journeys

  • @studiolezard
    @studiolezard 9 місяців тому

    Love the R2D2 joke. Clever and quick.

  • @PakdbyCellpak
    @PakdbyCellpak 9 місяців тому +1

    Cote d’Azure cars - Aston Martin Rapide AMR for the commute / Mercedes SLR McLaren Convertible for cruising the Boulevards

  • @perryshill2982
    @perryshill2982 9 місяців тому

    I was on a speed awareness course recently and I brought up that 22mph in London would get you points and a fine as it is 10% over the speed limit. I drive in London in second gear. If I put it into 3rd before you know it you are doing 26-28mph. Is that a ban ?

  • @bustertyke
    @bustertyke 9 місяців тому +1

    Them vauxhall steelies were also on some sxi and sri nova’s got some somewhere.

    • @jblack5323
      @jblack5323 9 місяців тому

      I do prefer the turbine alloy wheels that came on the GTE though

  • @Gson-cx8uk
    @Gson-cx8uk 9 місяців тому

    I recommend TM ( transcendental meditation) to all. 20 minutes regular meditation can have an extraordinary impact. Same effect 5 hours sleep

  • @johnslater2488
    @johnslater2488 9 місяців тому +2

    105 series Alfas, have these also

  • @stuartsmith5308
    @stuartsmith5308 9 місяців тому +1

    Starting to daydream - Steels on a McLaren F1, Nissan GT-R, Ferrari F40, Lamborghini Countach, Rolls Royce Phantom

  • @vincentkr3w
    @vincentkr3w 9 місяців тому

    Absolutely loved this episode! Like all the ones that came before, but just a little more. It was a notch more sexy. Neil's Panama hat is to blame!

  • @LarsAgerbk
    @LarsAgerbk 9 місяців тому +1

    55:39 Haas is currently in front of Williams, Sauber(Kick) and Renault(Alpine). In 2018 they finnished 5th. and if it hadn't been for the catastrophic first race in Melbourne that saw both cars leave the pit with loose wheels - forcing both cars to DNF. And Grosjeans shenaningans, they would have ended 4th. Best-of-the-rest.
    I remember when Magnussen switched from Renault to Haas in 2017. A Danish journalist had asked the other teams about Guenther Steiner. Apparently he was seeen as a bit of a clown.
    I think Guenther should be respected for establishing Haas F1 Racing, more than running Haas F1 Racing. Komatsu seems to be a better team leader but I don't think he would be able to create a new F1 team like Guenther did. Yes Haas is composed of mainly Ferrari bits. While this may not be a good thing on its own. I certaintly commend Guenther for finding a loophole in the regulations and running with it.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      "saw both cars leave the pit with loose wheels - forcing both cars to DNF." lolololololol

    • @Jay-ww4ru
      @Jay-ww4ru 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes and that incident gave the win to Vettel.

  • @stephenpowling
    @stephenpowling 9 місяців тому

    Neil saying it was Fred Again who Edward was taking a call from made me giggle.

  • @NerfHerdsman
    @NerfHerdsman 9 місяців тому +3

    Been listening since the beginning and love every episode but would the 60th episode be a good time to tax deduct some local recording mics?

  • @adriansimon6679
    @adriansimon6679 9 місяців тому

    Original Dunlop steel wheels, or those Alfaholics steels. Love them both.

  • @MattyI971
    @MattyI971 9 місяців тому

    Congrats Manish 😁

  • @LouisMills-b8c
    @LouisMills-b8c 9 місяців тому

    When Dr Manish gets his 456 can we have an episode with the 5 of you sat in it. Yes I know it’s a 4 seater, but I’m sure you could make it work.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      can stick monkey in the glovebox

  • @akadanielmaia
    @akadanielmaia 9 місяців тому +1

    SL 300 wheels are amazing too

  • @kenphillips5221
    @kenphillips5221 9 місяців тому

    Brilliant!

  • @duncangwhyte
    @duncangwhyte 9 місяців тому

    One of the "benefits" of driving an EV, is on a long run having to sit for 30-60 mins or something, and being able to have a wee nap. One of reasons I have the tech pack on my Ioniq 5, with the fully reclining seats. Glorious.

  • @ia6718
    @ia6718 9 місяців тому

    13.40 manesh face when everyone talking about bean flicking

  • @tahirsaid6993
    @tahirsaid6993 9 місяців тому

    I'm actually really surprised that Chris hasn't visited a Barber in 20 odd years.
    You are looking very sharp indeed.
    You know as a fellow hairy bloke, living in a warm climate in Kenya, I visit the barber weekly for a beard trim and monthly for a haircut.
    Next time on your travels try an Indian head massage.
    It's not a naughty thing.

  • @gregidour7315
    @gregidour7315 9 місяців тому +1

    well done Manish, you somehow also managed to get it out

  • @MiniEggs1999
    @MiniEggs1999 9 місяців тому

    Do you think the BMW 550e will be the basis of the firstBMW Alpina?

  • @simonpotts4552
    @simonpotts4552 9 місяців тому

    timely. just driven to Algarve solo via Caen ferry. hadn’t booked hotel then of course couldn’t find one where i would trust leaving 4 cycles on back of car. so 2x overnight sleeps for an hour or so. all good but now rather wiffy

  • @Jay-ww4ru
    @Jay-ww4ru 9 місяців тому +1

    CH gets the two-car garage wrong. How could the lady want to be seen in a soccer mom's car? Although it's a great colour combo, it's still wrong too utility. Also, she already had a Range Rover, presumably an SV with 575hp V8. So DB12 is the correct call, DB12 + Blower Bentley. Where do I sign up?

  • @justinschultz4325
    @justinschultz4325 9 місяців тому

    I love a good nap. It could be at home, in a car, on a plane, etc.

  • @ColinCarFan
    @ColinCarFan 9 місяців тому +2

    Guenther is no hero for me but he fulfilled his role realistically as he continually found the funds to keep a budget team in Formula 1 - Gene Hass did not take the same bankrolling approach as Stroll.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      indeed the opposite

  • @MrAjjm65
    @MrAjjm65 9 місяців тому +1

    Steel wheels look great - until they start to rust. The steelies on my old RAV4 looked fab until they started rusting at the edges. And once the rust started, there was no stopping it! I have a fear that the wonderful white steelies on the new Defenders will look a bit grotty in a few years time…

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      should be cheap to replace tho

  • @Brisk275
    @Brisk275 9 місяців тому +2

    Steel wheels - Voxorl/Opel Polish drifter spec 5 spoke ?16”s? from Insignias and Zafiras etc are far better than most of their alloy wheels.

  • @weartobegin
    @weartobegin 9 місяців тому

    It's 2004, and you get invited to the Autocar Sideways Challenge - you have to take one modern car (1995- 2004) and one 1975 or older. What are you taking?

  • @SapphireSamC
    @SapphireSamC 9 місяців тому

    Classic convertible!?! Tolman edition 205 Gti Cabriolet! To get down to the south of France - Original Audi RS2 Avant. A perfect pair!

  • @f1jr724
    @f1jr724 9 місяців тому

    Brilliant

  • @tranquilitybase7860
    @tranquilitybase7860 9 місяців тому

    Having time with little Chris 😅

  • @trisbonky
    @trisbonky 9 місяців тому

    Mr Cooper. Please straighten up your pictures on your wall. Many thanks.

  • @jjperera3389
    @jjperera3389 9 місяців тому

    It’s around 5mph above the speed limit… for the cameras

  • @weaksignal8009
    @weaksignal8009 9 місяців тому

    Gordon's alfaholic is a Zagato Junior

  • @gregidour7315
    @gregidour7315 9 місяців тому

    well done Edward, you managed to get it out

  • @trophman
    @trophman 9 місяців тому

    If you’ve ever been a salesperson on the road, a micro nap is essential. I have deployed many, many times.

  • @franciscomarques3571
    @franciscomarques3571 9 місяців тому

    About the steelies, an an ax gt looks so much better with the steelies than with the alloy wheels that the majority have

  • @removebeforeflight62
    @removebeforeflight62 9 місяців тому

    How did y’all miss the Alfa Romeo steel wheels of the 70s?

  • @markseabrook5279
    @markseabrook5279 9 місяців тому

    I’m disabled and so drive with hand control for anything under 20 mph & cruise control for anything above.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      why not cruise control at 20? just wondering. just cos usually stop start traffic?

  • @smcdetailing7921
    @smcdetailing7921 9 місяців тому

    I thought I saw the Sausage at Motor Racing medics the other day. I see all sorts of scruffs coming and going for their race medicals (Chris Harris included). As I am opposite them on that business park.

  • @martynrobertson8528
    @martynrobertson8528 9 місяців тому

    Triumph GT6 Mk III steels. Perfect

  • @tikkathreebarrels
    @tikkathreebarrels 9 місяців тому

    Manish kinda proposes that Gunther Steiner is like any Prime Minister of the current generation: successful through self-promotion.

  • @frankyork5808
    @frankyork5808 9 місяців тому +2

    Who stole Chris Coopers eye brows?

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 9 місяців тому

      he said he went to he barbers.. haha

  • @nobass_stub1394
    @nobass_stub1394 9 місяців тому

    I near bloody died crying with laughter listening to Neil Clifford's Bullshit description of a Micro Nap.
    Sorry Neil you're wrong because once you go bald or grey it's called a Grandpa Nap mate!!!

  • @elcasho
    @elcasho 9 місяців тому

    I love how Chris is embarrassed by Edwards innuendo. And then minutes later Chris says "tits" haha

  • @barneyrubble9309
    @barneyrubble9309 9 місяців тому

    you still have the 10% rule but the 2mph addition is going.
    It used to be 10%+2mph its now either 10%+1 or just 10% so 22 in a 20 is a nickable offence.!

  • @zealouscoma
    @zealouscoma 9 місяців тому

    Please can we have a video or more time on Manishs car