It's been said several times here already, but best explanation of keyless works/date wheel assembly I've seen. I've watched numerous videos hoping to address various problems I've needed to solve, and none have come close to the detail given here. Love how you explain what each piece does, and what issues can arise when a given piece is out of alignment or damaged. Super helpful. I'm going to go back to my workbench right now and see if I can get some of my "given up for dead movements" back to life again!
This is an absolutely wonderful lesson. Alex is a natural and gifted teacher. There are many watchmaker videos that disassemble, clean, lubricate, and reassemble. Those videos almost always just say this part goes here and that part goes there. Alex is one of the only watchmakers who takes the next step and tells you WHY this part goes here and WHY that part goes there. He tells you how the movement is supposed to work which is the information you need to troubleshoot when the watch isn’t working. I would love to see a video like this that troubleshoots stem problems on the Seiko NH35/36 movement. IMO when Seiko modified their classic 7s26 to the 4r36 they had to introduce a lot of clunky and unnatural gearing to allow for handwinding.
I've tinkered with lower end automatic Seiko movements quite a bit and never broken a thing. Three days ago I started with my very first ETA 2824-2 clone and messed it up when removing the stem. I was sure is was a goner until I found you excellent video. It took me two hours to get it fixed but more than that, I'm thrilled about your insanely good video of it. Video quality and everything well explained. Cannot be any better. Thanks a lot!
Alex, thank you very much for the tutorial. Just saved a nice Fortis with 2824-2 that I was going to sell for parts but decided to give it a chance. Followed you detailed instructions and here it is working again.
Thank God for this video! I was about to give up on this altogether due to spending hours and hours on a non-winding stem, but it turns out the problem was the yoke spring not tensioning the yoke. All I had to so was apply pressure so the yoke is locking before screwing down
Following your instructions here, I successfully fixed my spoilt 2836. I used a peg wood to poke the stem removal button. It went too far and dislodged the setting lever. It was my first time attempting to do these sort of repairs. Thk u sooooo much!!!!!
❤Wow!! You are my father of Watch making. When you are so good wondering how is George Daniel’s - You said once he is the father of watch making 😳. You mentioning at the end that hoping I learnt a little bit from you is an understatement. Learnt a very key Keyless works mechanism!! Bravo! Thanks a lot 🙏
Wow, another Alex has come to my rescue with a solid gold video! Have dismantled dozens of these 2824 keyless where some have even been disasters and now know why! Golden movements for me 5:08->6:17, 6:32, 17:51->18:09 and especially 18:33 the rounded part facing up! Wished I I knew this.before spending big$$$$ on parts I did not need and worse still did not workI also notice that generic parts do not always mesh when buying replacement! Stems setting levers and even yokes must be genuine if one can get them!! Sir I salute you and a.big Thank you !
wow ,this is and excellent video ,describing each part and its function helps so much ,i actually struggle with with the hands idky you make it look so easy . thank you
Great video. Thank you for making it. I have a stem retention issue going on with both of the ETA 2824-2 I just got. I am totally new and novice but am loving learning and really appreciate this video. I love that you explained what everything is and what it does. I am hopeful after the repairs I will not have to experience the problems again anytime soon.
Thank you for this video! I had a Tudor Prince Oysterdate with an ETA 2824-2 movement where the stem pulled straight out of the case when pulling for time setting. I was able to disassemble the movement and diagnose that the yoke was jumping out of the sliding pinion. Your video was a very straight forward explanation that helped me fix my watch :)
I was having some troubles with the 2824 as in it would not wind the watch, although it would set the date, set the time, but when the stem would be pushed back in, nothing... awesome video for knowing what to hunt for, not just take apart and re-assemble
Thank you for making this video. Just fixed my watch!!! Really thought I had to bury my much loved watch... Will be learning more from you. Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge.
Brilliant video, thank you for laying it out so clearly. Makes it so much easier to understand. It will definitely be my reference video. Really appreciate the time and thought that you into these.
Superb video. I had just started assembling my first watch when after changing the crown and inserting the stem, I noticed it wouldn't change position. Hoping the yoke has just jumped out, but I will wait until my smaller screwdrivers arrive before investigating! My movement is an ST2130, so this video will be very useful indeed!
Great video, thank you for sharing. I bought a Roamer Anfibio with a three piece stem, but looks like the previous owner Jammed a generic stem in there and the winding skips, and the hour setting only work going backwards. This video is going to help me figure out the keyless work in this watch once I get the correct stem, crown and sleeve.
This is really good stuff!!! I have a 1973 Longines automatic ultra-chron. The crown had become extremely stiff to wind so I used the winding tool (which fits in the crown) and it appears that something may be broken inside as the crown and stem are still attached but its moving freely without resistance. I no longer can set the hands nor the date. The watch itself is running as its an automatic watch but I guess its a matter of time.
Big thanks for the vid, issues and functions described really well. I'm new to this and had an issue with the yoke being dislodged from the sliding pinion, problem solved after watching this.
You good the other channel. That’s awesome. Those videos which, which I am reformatting the presentation, are going to be a longer full service video and on my channel “ It’s about F*****g Time, will be more specific to a single topic. As always, I appreciate you being there my friend.
@@watchrepairtutorials great! On channel AFT I can see how your presentation is different and better from my POV. I prefer voice overs and I like your face to face bits. You look exactly like an older brother of my friend! Good luck with your UA-cam journey!
Thanks a lot for the class, fantastic, ok in my watch the stem just goes out no t lock nor can move the hands now find a place that can fix it Thank you
I believe that the yolk is under the setting lever on my ETA 2836. I know that because I watched your awesome video. This is the second time I accidentally pulled the stem out. Ive never done that to any watch I’ve ever owned as I’m always very careful. Would you happen to know if this Is this a design flaw of the 2836? The first time it happened I sent it in for repair hoping they would fix it. Thank you so much for making such an educational video. I now fully understand what’s happening when pulling out the crown.
Hi Alex, thank you so much for this Video. As a beginner im usually watching your other YT-channel, but now it was time for my 1st self performed watch repair ever. A 2824 had its stem broken while sitting in my watchbox without any external impacts. Your Video was such a great help, without it, i would have not been able tomnperform that task. And it was successfull, i managed to disasamble and reasamble the watch, i lenghthen the new stem and at the end all worked out well. But... It was not that easy to me as it look in these yt videos from you and other watchsmiths. I didnt even know, which is the needed position of the stem when you want to remove it. I had to redo the keyless works about 5 times, as it just didnt work. One time, i inserted the sliding pinion the wron way, but hey, i was working with a stand-loupe with about 2x magnifiying and therefore didnt see to much. After doing it the 5th time, it all worked well. I also had dificulties to reinstall the date disk on the lil spring, and most difficult part for me was to install the hands again. But i kept being patient and kept trying it, even changed the magnification cyclops on the Dial. Well i ve spent around 800 bucks for watchmaking equipment so far, withanother 1300 to go for a microscope and mainspring winders and cleaning agents and oils.... compared with 50 EUR i would have to spent for a watchsmith for this repair, it might sound a bad investment. but i have learned quite a view things and have the tools, to perform the next repairs aswell. Do you rememer the first time you repaired a watch? it feels great.
Hi Alex, another excellent video -full of information and a precise demonstration of the way to achieve the optimum midnight date change. I've been surprised when in other videos the UA-camr accepts having the date change minutes before or after midnight. Do other types movements have a less precise turn-over? As a newbie, my experience is limited but I have had "right at midnight" results with an ETA 9362 quartz movement -but not achieved as elegantly as you've demonstrated here. Cheers, Dave
Well if you think about it, it has more to do with where the hr and minute hand is, right? What determines the hand position. Answer>>>>>>>>>>>>>. its where you put the hands. No matter whether its a instantaneous type of driving wheel or not, there is a point when the tooth of the date wheel falls over the date jumper. When this happens, that's when you set the hr hand position. then you advance the hr hand again and make sure the change happens with the hr hand at 12 and then set the minute hand and advance them 24 hrs and check it again. Even if the date driving wheel takes 3 hrs to click the date wheel over, it will been seen based on where you put the hands.
14:10 if the yoke spring is bend (the front part) can you pull out the stem? Same with 17:00 when it’s not in the position? Thank you for answering! Sadly I think I have this problem with my beloved Maurice Lacroix 1996 les classique date 😢
Awesome video buddy! I have a question if you don’t mind.. do you do any repairs? I have two watches same movement and my stems won’t go back in.. the watch still runs but when I insert the stems it doesn’t run and won’t lock in smh.. is there a way I can get them out to you to fix for me? Do you have a website or email I can reach you at? This video explains what can possibly be wrong but I don’t have the tools and I’m afraid to open my watches up.
Thank you for such a great and detailed video. This helped a beginner like me fix this very issue where I removed the stem to case the movement / dial, but could not get the stem to connect back in (the setting lever jump became dislodged from its position). The good news is, using your video, I was able to get it working again! The bad news is (and I'm sure most can relate), when going to put the screw back in for the setting lever jumper, as I started applying pressure, the screw flung across the room. After crawling on my hands and knees for a good half hour I've come to the conclusion that the screw has entered another dimension lost forever to this world. Wondering if a repair kit exists that contains the various screws for the 2824 movement to assist clumsy people like me (LOL)?
All good and nicely explained. However how do you remove the movement from the case, when the stem does not come out despite unscrewing the set lever screw? Thanks for your tip and or suggestions.
Sometimes you have to pull the crown in and out to free it up. It the setting lever is rusted or the screw is stripped, you just have to figure out how to get to it.
@@alexhamilton9566 Thanks, the crown does only pull out like a spring and when turning it, the winding is engaged. When it's pulled back the hands can be set. Just the opposite as usual.🤣
@@watchrepairtutorials It's a AS 1430 I was able to remove the movement by unscrewing the crown. Parts are dirty and some rust. Thanks your video it did help.
Hello Alex :) Nice video, it help me with my first assemble. I am trying to restore a vintage pocket watch and when i´m winding the watch the crown doesn´t stop. Like i wind it 20 times at it seems it jumps...What could that be? Thank you.
EXCELLENT video!! So well described logical easy to follow. I have a Valjoux 7750 on which the winding crown slips freely in all three positions, I cant wind it, i can set the time if I pull it with some force while turning the crown. Before it started to slip, it did turn harder than normal I thought as with some more resistance than normal. I'm thinking the square part of the winding stem is worn or the winding pinion. Could you give me your opinion? Also, Is the major winding and setting operation similar to the 2824? Would really appreciate you help if possible.... ;))
First I would say that I probably would wind it if that much force is required as many parts can be damaged and that's not a cheap movement to service. The keyless works is also different that what you see in the 2824. If I had to guess based off what you said, I would say that the winding pinon is worn or the crown wheel is loose or a combination of the two. It sounds like it is in need of a service.
Have a Miyota 840N, when I go to oush thebstem back in, the hands jump several hours. Can't get it to run. Fear there is a problem where the stem comes in.
Isn’t there a fault with this movement where if the stem is not in the time set position before you remove it, then it will not go back in.I understand that the Foreign version included the fault in their copy as well. Illuminating as usual!!👍 I did one with a day function and it was a nightmare at my skill level.
I’m not really a proponent of this theory. I think what it comes down to is a part either being worn or a Part was manufactured of tolerance a little bit and enough people read that and all of a sudden it’s built-in fault in all the movements. I’ve seen the problem very few times in this movement. I think it’s more probable that it’s an issue that people loyal to Seiko perpetuate.
Hello Alex, Thanks for an informative video. Today I found a problem with my own mechanical watch stem. The crown/stem only winds and allows for time adjustment (no date function). Although the watch wound fine, when I pulled the crown to correct min/hour hands, the stem came completely out of the watch. I can refit it by loosening/tightening the small retaining screw, but upon trying to move to the time adjust position, the same thing happens and the stem pulls completely out. Is this a similar problem to what you showed us in this video with parts perhaps slipped out of position? Thank you, Alex
The pin on the setting lever that fits in the slot on the stem is either not tightened down enough or the pin is worn sufficiently allowing the setting lever pin to pull out. If you remove the dial this would be a pretty easy to determine what the problem is
@@watchrepairtutorials Hello again Alex, Just to let you know I took the watch (ever so carefully!) apart today. Once I removed the face I could see that the setting lever's pin had jumped out of the notches of the setting lever jumper. I don't know how it got into that position but I gently pushed it back to engage the pin again into one of the notches. Fortunately I didn't need to disassemble further to do this. It's thanks to seeing your video that I had the confidence I could tackle this so thank you for taking the time to create it. In doing the repair, I noticed there are no seals on the stem or crown so I've ordered some to fit. Can I ask you, when removing the stem next time, should I start off with the crown fully pushed in (winding position) or fully out (hand adjust position) before I loosen the retaining screw for the stem or does it not matter. Thanks again, Alex
I have a Hamilton watch 8482 and the winding stem is pushed all the way in an on every UA-cam video I see when it’s all the way pushed in it ticks when you spin it and mine does not tick when I spin it … please help me I can’t find any ANY information to help
So anytime you are looking to remedy a problem with a watch movement, you need to first start with which movement it has inside it. I am also not sure I fully understand the issue. Is the problem, when the stem is pushed all the way in, the Watch does not run? What do you mean when you say, it doesn’t tick when I spin it. What are you spinning?
@@watchrepairtutorials I’m not a expert or anything lol im just saying the thing that’s on the right side of the watch that moves the hands and where you wind it at to start the second hand to move it…
My hamilton can wind but I hear no clicking sound when I wind my watch up and also when winding it up it doesn't take long for a "full" wind... can someone please explain...😊
@watchrepairtutorials I don't know really but my watch is running ... but only when I go and wind my watch up that is when it gets weird and when I turn the crown the other (anticlockwise) then I feel and hear the gear engaging
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Thanks a lot for your video, i managed to solve one of my problem with a PT5000 (the stem was not locking). Can you help me with a date change problem please? I don't know what is wrong (in video here: ua-cam.com/video/DyrxxrJMwkU/v-deo.html)
I have a SEIKO seikomatic Weekdater Diashock 35 Jewels 6218-8950 Automic Watch which cannot be manually wound, the Day Date cannot be advanced manually, andthe HACK does not function, but the DAY-DATE advances at midway.. Wher can I get it fixed?
Working on a Scuba Dude and wouldn't ya know it almost done, go to put the stem in sure enough it won't stay. Betting its the setting lever cuz it won't depress anymore. Gotta take a break and a breath. Russkies and their pesky wobble stems...😡🔧🪛
I am assuming that this is a manual wind watch you are talking about. A manual wind watch will stop when the mainspring is fully wound, unlike an automatic watch that’s also hand winds. The mainspring in an automatic watch slips inside the barrel once a certain amount of torque has been reached. Does that answer your question?
@@watchrepairtutorials The watch Im having this issue with is a 2824 clone so I thought it wasn't supposed to lock after a full wind. Maybe its just defective. Thanks tho
@@drunkdriver If you are winding it and the resistance is such that it feels like you need to stop winding< it sounds like the bridle is not slipping and yes that is defective.
It's been said several times here already, but best explanation of keyless works/date wheel assembly I've seen. I've watched numerous videos hoping to address various problems I've needed to solve, and none have come close to the detail given here. Love how you explain what each piece does, and what issues can arise when a given piece is out of alignment or damaged. Super helpful. I'm going to go back to my workbench right now and see if I can get some of my "given up for dead movements" back to life again!
This is by far the best ETA keyless works video I’ve seen.
This is an absolutely wonderful lesson. Alex is a natural and gifted teacher. There are many watchmaker videos that disassemble, clean, lubricate, and reassemble. Those videos almost always just say this part goes here and that part goes there. Alex is one of the only watchmakers who takes the next step and tells you WHY this part goes here and WHY that part goes there. He tells you how the movement is supposed to work which is the information you need to troubleshoot when the watch isn’t working. I would love to see a video like this that troubleshoots stem problems on the Seiko NH35/36 movement. IMO when Seiko modified their classic 7s26 to the 4r36 they had to introduce a lot of clunky and unnatural gearing to allow for handwinding.
I have it in the list but it will probably be on my other channel, watchrepairtutorials
Thank you very much for these explanations, I repaired my movement thanks to you.
Best instructions and explanations on 2824 keyless works I've seen
I've tinkered with lower end automatic Seiko movements quite a bit and never broken a thing. Three days ago I started with my very first ETA 2824-2 clone and messed it up when removing the stem. I was sure is was a goner until I found you excellent video. It took me two hours to get it fixed but more than that, I'm thrilled about your insanely good video of it. Video quality and everything well explained. Cannot be any better. Thanks a lot!
Alex, thank you very much for the tutorial. Just saved a nice Fortis with 2824-2 that I was going to sell for parts but decided to give it a chance. Followed you detailed instructions and here it is working again.
You are the MAN! Nice Job.👍
Thank God for this video! I was about to give up on this altogether due to spending hours and hours on a non-winding stem, but it turns out the problem was the yoke spring not tensioning the yoke. All I had to so was apply pressure so the yoke is locking before screwing down
I really appreciate your detailed lesson, many thanks from Romania!
Following your instructions here, I successfully fixed my spoilt 2836. I used a peg wood to poke the stem removal button. It went too far and dislodged the setting lever. It was my first time attempting to do these sort of repairs. Thk u sooooo much!!!!!
Excellent job my man. Glad I could help
❤Wow!! You are my father of Watch making. When you are so good wondering how is George Daniel’s - You said once he is the father of watch making 😳.
You mentioning at the end that hoping I learnt a little bit from you is an understatement. Learnt a very key Keyless works mechanism!! Bravo! Thanks a lot 🙏
Wow, another Alex has come to my rescue with a solid gold video! Have dismantled dozens of these 2824 keyless where some have even been disasters and now know why! Golden movements for me 5:08->6:17, 6:32, 17:51->18:09 and especially 18:33 the rounded part facing up! Wished I I knew this.before spending big$$$$ on parts I did not need and worse still did not workI also notice that generic parts do not always mesh when buying replacement! Stems setting levers and even yokes must be genuine if one can get them!! Sir I salute you and a.big Thank you !
One of the best explanations I’ve seen online. Thank you for posting. I’m sure I’m refer back to this over again!!
wow ,this is and excellent video ,describing each part and its function helps so much ,i actually struggle with with the hands idky you make it look so easy . thank you
Great video. Thank you for making it. I have a stem retention issue going on with both of the ETA 2824-2 I just got. I am totally new and novice but am loving learning and really appreciate this video. I love that you explained what everything is and what it does. I am hopeful after the repairs I will not have to experience the problems again anytime soon.
Thank you for this video! I had a Tudor Prince Oysterdate with an ETA 2824-2 movement where the stem pulled straight out of the case when pulling for time setting. I was able to disassemble the movement and diagnose that the yoke was jumping out of the sliding pinion. Your video was a very straight forward explanation that helped me fix my watch :)
Man that’s great to hear. Thanks for letting me know. 👌Alex
I was having some troubles with the 2824 as in it would not wind the watch, although it would set the date, set the time, but when the stem would be pushed back in, nothing... awesome video for knowing what to hunt for, not just take apart and re-assemble
Thank you for making this video. Just fixed my watch!!! Really thought I had to bury my much loved watch... Will be learning more from you. Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge.
I don’t know if you are aware of my other channel which is more tutorial based. Check it out. “It’s about Time”
@@watchrepairtutorials Will do! Realised I didn't lubricate the keylessworks components. Is it necessary?
@@stanleews oh yea. It’s not going to stop the watch, but it puts additional torque on the stem and will cause wear.
Brilliant video, thank you for laying it out so clearly. Makes it so much easier to understand. It will definitely be my reference video. Really appreciate the time and thought that you into these.
Thank you for the video excellent coverage of this movement keyless works.
Superb video. I had just started assembling my first watch when after changing the crown and inserting the stem, I noticed it wouldn't change position. Hoping the yoke has just jumped out, but I will wait until my smaller screwdrivers arrive before investigating! My movement is an ST2130, so this video will be very useful indeed!
Very cool. I would love to hear what you discover as the problem.
Mis-aligned yoke, just as in your video! Happy to report it now changes between positions and winds normally! Thank you so much for the vid! Phew!
@@chrisairey877 nice job man. Glad I could help a little bit.
WOW dude, beautiful, explicit and straight to the object.
Perfect 👍
Great video, thank you for sharing. I bought a Roamer Anfibio with a three piece stem, but looks like the previous owner Jammed a generic stem in there and the winding skips, and the hour setting only work going backwards. This video is going to help me figure out the keyless work in this watch once I get the correct stem, crown and sleeve.
Perfect. I am glad I could help.
This is meticulously done. Gives me added appreciation.
Thanks my friend
What a fantastic video for such a complex topic. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
This is really good stuff!!! I have a 1973 Longines automatic ultra-chron. The crown had become extremely stiff to wind so I used the winding tool (which fits in the crown) and it appears that something may be broken inside as the crown and stem are still attached but its moving freely without resistance. I no longer can set the hands nor the date. The watch itself is running as its an automatic watch but I guess its a matter of time.
No being able to set the date will be an issue, Right?
Absolutely perfect, thank you so much.
Excellent video ! It has to be saved !
Awesome! Absolutely fixed my movement. Thank you!
This is exactly what I needed
This is exactly what I needed to know! Thank you for posting..
A great video Alex. Thank you for the information. Explains a lot. Thank you
Brilliant! Sortd out my problem for me. Soooo clear! Thank you!
Thank you very much. I respect craftsmen.
When my watch is wound, the rotor rotates together. Please address this issue as well.
Big thanks for the vid, issues and functions described really well. I'm new to this and had an issue with the yoke being dislodged from the sliding pinion, problem solved after watching this.
I’m glad you found it helpful. Alex.
Thanks Alex, clearly explained! Some of those trouble shooting tips were great!
You good the other channel. That’s awesome. Those videos which, which I am reformatting the presentation, are going to be a longer full service video and on my channel “ It’s about F*****g Time, will be more specific to a single topic.
As always, I appreciate you being there my friend.
@@watchrepairtutorials great! On channel AFT I can see how your presentation is different and better from my POV. I prefer voice overs and I like your face to face bits. You look exactly like an older brother of my friend! Good luck with your UA-cam journey!
Saved me buying another movement 👍🏻 thanks a lot for this great vid
Thats awesome. Thanks Henry
🥰🙌 You, sir, are a gift to us all ❤️
excellent video. one of the most educational, simply explained for viewer's understanding. many thanks and please keep them coming!
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you
Thanks a lot for the class, fantastic, ok in my watch the stem just goes out no t lock nor can move the hands now find a place that can fix it Thank you
thank you, I think this gives me a fair understanding of why I cannot hack the time on my watch 😢
I believe that the yolk is under the setting lever on my ETA 2836. I know that because I watched your awesome video. This is the second time I accidentally pulled the stem out. Ive never done that to any watch I’ve ever owned as I’m always very careful. Would you happen to know if this Is this a design flaw of the 2836? The first time it happened I sent it in for repair hoping they would fix it. Thank you so much for making such an educational video. I now fully understand what’s happening when pulling out the crown.
Ha! Brilliant! Just fixed my watch!!! Thank you!
Bloody hell, you're a life saver.
Some good tips there but it would have been better if you had shown where to put oil/grease and how much of what type. Thanks.
Perfectly explained!
Another nice video sir! Thank you for taking the time to do these.
Thanks man.
Very informative…one simple question, why not set the seconds hand at midnight with the hour and minute hand?
Fantastic video! Thank you!
This video is exactly what i needed. Thank you good sir.
You are most welcome
Hi Alex, thank you so much for this Video. As a beginner im usually watching your other YT-channel, but now it was time for my 1st self performed watch repair ever. A 2824 had its stem broken while sitting in my watchbox without any external impacts. Your Video was such a great help, without it, i would have not been able tomnperform that task. And it was successfull, i managed to disasamble and reasamble the watch, i lenghthen the new stem and at the end all worked out well. But...
It was not that easy to me as it look in these yt videos from you and other watchsmiths. I didnt even know, which is the needed position of the stem when you want to remove it. I had to redo the keyless works about 5 times, as it just didnt work. One time, i inserted the sliding pinion the wron way, but hey, i was working with a stand-loupe with about 2x magnifiying and therefore didnt see to much. After doing it the 5th time, it all worked well. I also had dificulties to reinstall the date disk on the lil spring, and most difficult part for me was to install the hands again. But i kept being patient and kept trying it, even changed the magnification cyclops on the Dial.
Well i ve spent around 800 bucks for watchmaking equipment so far, withanother 1300 to go for a microscope and mainspring winders and cleaning agents and oils.... compared with 50 EUR i would have to spent for a watchsmith for this repair, it might sound a bad investment. but i have learned quite a view things and have the tools, to perform the next repairs aswell.
Do you rememer the first time you repaired a watch? it feels great.
Of course I remember and still get an adrenaline rush when I fix a hard problem.
Good luck and hope to see you again
Great video. Thank you so much!
Thank you brother
You helped me alot! Thank you so much
How much would a service like this cost trouble shooting when only a symptom is known but not the actual cause just yet? Thanks great video!
cant thank you enough saved me a lot of money!
¡¡ GOOD JOB !!! LEARN A LOT; 👍 THANKS.
Thanks man
Thank you so much, it was a great video.
If you're having 2824 keyless works issues your troubles are over - you found this video.
Hi Alex, another excellent video -full of information and a precise demonstration of the way to achieve the optimum midnight date change. I've been surprised when in other videos the UA-camr accepts having the date change minutes before or after midnight. Do other types movements have a less precise turn-over? As a newbie, my experience is limited but I have had "right at midnight" results with an ETA 9362 quartz movement -but not achieved as elegantly as you've demonstrated here. Cheers, Dave
Well if you think about it, it has more to do with where the hr and minute hand is, right?
What determines the hand position. Answer>>>>>>>>>>>>>. its where you put the hands.
No matter whether its a instantaneous type of driving wheel or not, there is a point when the tooth of the date wheel falls over the date jumper. When this happens, that's when you set the hr hand position. then you advance the hr hand again and make sure the change happens with the hr hand at 12 and then set the minute hand and advance them 24 hrs and check it again.
Even if the date driving wheel takes 3 hrs to click the date wheel over, it will been seen based on where you put the hands.
@@watchrepairtutorials Got it! Thanks for the reply👍
14:10 if the yoke spring is bend (the front part) can you pull out the stem? Same with 17:00 when it’s not in the position? Thank you for answering! Sadly I think I have this problem with my beloved Maurice Lacroix 1996 les classique date 😢
Awesome video buddy! I have a question if you don’t mind.. do you do any repairs? I have two watches same movement and my stems won’t go back in.. the watch still runs but when I insert the stems it doesn’t run and won’t lock in smh.. is there a way I can get them out to you to fix for me? Do you have a website or email I can reach you at? This video explains what can possibly be wrong but I don’t have the tools and I’m afraid to open my watches up.
Thank you for such a great and detailed video. This helped a beginner like me fix this very issue where I removed the stem to case the movement / dial, but could not get the stem to connect back in (the setting lever jump became dislodged from its position). The good news is, using your video, I was able to get it working again! The bad news is (and I'm sure most can relate), when going to put the screw back in for the setting lever jumper, as I started applying pressure, the screw flung across the room. After crawling on my hands and knees for a good half hour I've come to the conclusion that the screw has entered another dimension lost forever to this world. Wondering if a repair kit exists that contains the various screws for the 2824 movement to assist clumsy people like me (LOL)?
They are out there.
Hi sir, I found watch from my grandfather s desk and would like to wear it but its not running would you like to feature it ?
Superb explained thanks for your very helpfull educational video
I am glad it helped
very nice video hai aur bhi mujhe setting pahuncha abhi ka
Dude! Keep this up!
I will. Thank you Justin
All good and nicely explained. However how do you remove the movement from the case, when the stem does not come out despite unscrewing the set lever screw? Thanks for your tip and or suggestions.
Sometimes you have to pull the crown in and out to free it up. It the setting lever is rusted or the screw is stripped, you just have to figure out how to get to it.
@@alexhamilton9566 Thanks, the crown does only pull out like a spring and when turning it, the winding is engaged. When it's pulled back the hands can be set. Just the opposite as usual.🤣
@@queenofscots839 Sounds like a mess. What movement is this?
@@watchrepairtutorials It's a AS 1430 I was able to remove the movement by unscrewing the crown. Parts are dirty and some rust. Thanks your video it did help.
Quick question Omega Seamaster 1994 I turn the crown and it spins back I no it should not do that any idea's Thanks
Check the click.
Thank you this very interesting Video
Thanks
Hello Alex :) Nice video, it help me with my first assemble. I am trying to restore a vintage pocket watch and when i´m winding the watch the crown doesn´t stop. Like i wind it 20 times at it seems it jumps...What could that be? Thank you.
EXCELLENT video!! So well described logical easy to follow.
I have a Valjoux 7750 on which the winding crown slips freely in all three positions, I cant wind it, i can set the time if I pull it with some force while turning the crown. Before it started to slip, it did turn harder than normal I thought as with some more resistance than normal. I'm thinking the square part of the winding stem is worn or the winding pinion. Could you give me your opinion? Also, Is the major winding and setting operation similar to the 2824? Would really appreciate you help if possible.... ;))
First I would say that I probably would wind it if that much force is required as many parts can be damaged and that's not a cheap movement to service.
The keyless works is also different that what you see in the 2824.
If I had to guess based off what you said, I would say that the winding pinon is worn or the crown wheel is loose or a combination of the two.
It sounds like it is in need of a service.
Have a Miyota 840N, when I go to oush thebstem back in, the hands jump several hours. Can't get it to run. Fear there is a problem where the stem comes in.
Isn’t there a fault with this movement where if the stem is not in the time set position before you remove it, then it will not go back in.I understand that the Foreign version included the fault in their copy as well. Illuminating as usual!!👍 I did one with a day function and it was a nightmare at my skill level.
I’m not really a proponent of this theory. I think what it comes down to is a part either being worn or a Part was manufactured of tolerance a little bit and enough people read that and all of a sudden it’s built-in fault in all the movements. I’ve seen the problem very few times in this movement.
I think it’s more probable that it’s an issue that people loyal to Seiko perpetuate.
Duly noted. Thanks.
Hello Alex, Thanks for an informative video. Today I found a problem with my own mechanical watch stem. The crown/stem only winds and allows for time adjustment (no date function). Although the watch wound fine, when I pulled the crown to correct min/hour hands, the stem came completely out of the watch. I can refit it by loosening/tightening the small retaining screw, but upon trying to move to the time adjust position, the same thing happens and the stem pulls completely out. Is this a similar problem to what you showed us in this video with parts perhaps slipped out of position? Thank you, Alex
The pin on the setting lever that fits in the slot on the stem is either not tightened down enough or the pin is worn sufficiently allowing the setting lever pin to pull out.
If you remove the dial this would be a pretty easy to determine what the problem is
@@watchrepairtutorials Thank you for the feedback. Appreciate the help.
@@watchrepairtutorials Hello again Alex,
Just to let you know I took the watch (ever so carefully!) apart today. Once I removed the face I could see that the setting lever's pin had jumped out of the notches of the setting lever jumper. I don't know how it got into that position but I gently pushed it back to engage the pin again into one of the notches. Fortunately I didn't need to disassemble further to do this. It's thanks to seeing your video that I had the confidence I could tackle this so thank you for taking the time to create it.
In doing the repair, I noticed there are no seals on the stem or crown so I've ordered some to fit. Can I ask you, when removing the stem next time, should I start off with the crown fully pushed in (winding position) or fully out (hand adjust position) before I loosen the retaining screw for the stem or does it not matter.
Thanks again,
Alex
you are my hero 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I have a Hamilton watch 8482 and the winding stem is pushed all the way in an on every UA-cam video I see when it’s all the way pushed in it ticks when you spin it and mine does not tick when I spin it … please help me I can’t find any ANY information to help
So anytime you are looking to remedy a problem with a watch movement, you need to first start with which movement it has inside it.
I am also not sure I fully understand the issue.
Is the problem, when the stem is pushed all the way in, the Watch does not run?
What do you mean when you say, it doesn’t tick when I spin it. What are you spinning?
@@watchrepairtutorials I’m not a expert or anything lol im just saying the thing that’s on the right side of the watch that moves the hands and where you wind it at to start the second hand to move it…
THANKS
13:04 Thanks for the info
My hamilton can wind but I hear no clicking sound when I wind my watch up and also when winding it up it doesn't take long for a "full" wind... can someone please explain...😊
Does the watch run?
Yes my watch is still running
@@nicholasolifant9538 what problem is this causing.
@watchrepairtutorials I don't know really but my watch is running ... but only when I go and wind my watch up that is when it gets weird and when I turn the crown the other (anticlockwise) then I feel and hear the gear engaging
👍👍👍 🇧🇷
3:35 the keylessworks looks like a smug bunny
Now ger the tools and sit and do it ,,, with the video infornt 🙂
mujhe chabi setting nahin aati ho chabi nikal kyon jata hai ise iska Hindi mein batao
molto bravo e istruttivo mi chiamo ALEXanche io fai per favore altri video su revisione di 2824-2 grazie ciao
OK Alex, cosa devi sapere sull'ETA 2824 ?
Grazie ALEXvorrei lo smontaggio e il rimontaggio dettagliatodeleta2824specie del pignone scorrevole e bascula grazie molto istruttivo e preciso sto traducendo tutte le tue lezionigrazie eciao da ITALIA@@watchrepairtutorials
@@appollonialessioappolloni9377 Hai bisogno della scheda tecnica?
Si se possibile ma del movimento PT5000 come faccio a trovare il tuo GOOGLE DRIVE @@watchrepairtutorials
@@appollonialessioappolloni9377 Per quanto ne so non ci sono schede tecniche su nessun movimento cinese
Hindi mein video nahin samjha sakte kya aap sar please
Thanks a lot for your video, i managed to solve one of my problem with a PT5000 (the stem was not locking). Can you help me with a date change problem please? I don't know what is wrong (in video here: ua-cam.com/video/DyrxxrJMwkU/v-deo.html)
I have a SEIKO seikomatic Weekdater Diashock 35 Jewels 6218-8950 Automic Watch which cannot be manually wound, the Day Date cannot be advanced manually, andthe HACK does not function, but the DAY-DATE advances at midway.. Wher can I get it fixed?
try to locate a local watchmaker first. If there are none near you there are many online.
Working on a Scuba Dude and wouldn't ya know it almost done, go to put the stem in sure enough it won't stay. Betting its the setting lever cuz it won't depress anymore. Gotta take a break and a breath. Russkies and their pesky wobble stems...😡🔧🪛
Thanks for the tutorial. The stem in my watch will not turn clockwise once the movement is fully wound, do you know what the issue is? thanks
I am assuming that this is a manual wind watch you are talking about. A manual wind watch will stop when the mainspring is fully wound, unlike an automatic watch that’s also hand winds. The mainspring in an automatic watch slips inside the barrel once a certain amount of torque has been reached.
Does that answer your question?
@@watchrepairtutorials The watch Im having this issue with is a 2824 clone so I thought it wasn't supposed to lock after a full wind. Maybe its just defective. Thanks tho
@@drunkdriver If you are winding it and the resistance is such that it feels like you need to stop winding< it sounds like the bridle is not slipping and yes that is defective.
Very informative…one simple question, why not set the seconds hand at midnight with the hour and minute hand?