The Worst Of Beauty TikTok - Dodgy Dermatologists, Butter As Primer & K-Beauty Slander! April 2024
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
- TikTok has become an amazing place to-go to stay up-to-date with beauty trends, products, and expert opinions. However, we all also know TikTok can be a minefield of misinformation, and click-bait videos, and now we even have to question if Dr's are who they say they are. From dodgy dermatologists to using butter as a primer, we're diving into the worst beauty TikTok videos for April 2024.
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I can't stand when a "professional" gets politely corrected and instead of conceding and learning from it, they take it personal and immediately double down on their misinformation. Like, science isn't about your ego dude, it isn't about anyone. Instant unfollow when I see that type of behaviour.
Totally agree 💯
It's one thing if you have additional information on the topic, but resorting to "they just want the views" tells me you didn't have much of a leg to stand on. If you're a scientist, you have to learn to take the L.
Yea he was definitely embarrassed.
Their ego can’t 😅😀
Unfortunately egos are par for the course in many aspects of the medical field.
“professionals” on tiktok: your skincare isn’t working because you didn’t triple cleanse, spin in a circle 3 times, and make a sacrifice to the skincare gods
😂😂👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
😂😂😂😂😂
I mean the skincare gods gave me good genes
Lauren knows what's up. I followed their guide of triple cleanse, spinning three times, made a double sacrifice and now my face shines like the sun❤ thankyou girl-queen-pussy-pop
😂😂😂😂
"Dr. Charles is misinterpreting studies, using authority bias and his lab coats...." I just died laughing at this. In his first "I'm on vacay" video, he's lounging in bed and, once he's criticized, the next video has him donning a lab coat and glasses.
And he is sunburned AF! How the hell are we supposed to trust a sunburned dermatologist!?
I would bet a large sum of money that those glasses have lenses with no correction 🤣
@@Sentient_GooseTHIS
@@Sentient_GooseI was once referred to an incredibly suntanned doctor when I relocated to the Miami area. I just couldn’t take him seriously!
A lab coat and glasses ... in what looks like his own kitchen?? LOLOL
Being unteachable in any field, but especially in medicine, is so dangerous. No one can know everything and everyone makes mistakes. Stay humble.
tell that my docs.... urgh
Exactly and new discoveries about the human body are being made all the time so if a doctor is unwilling to accept that it really puts people in danger.
That’s why it’s called a “practice”
THIS ❤
I teach my kids this 😊
I came here to say this! Just because someone was educated in a certain field doesn’t mean they know everything about that thing forever. You need to keep topping up that education, you need to learn from your colleagues, your peers, from new research. Things change and get disproved all the time. It shows a level of arrogance and a touch of ‘do you know who I am’ to ignore any studies done after your diploma.
You know what you call a doctor who graduates at the bottom of their class?
"Doctor"
Lab coat ≠ expert in all things or above being manipulative for views
Apparently you call him Charles
He probably wasn’t bad at school in order to get into Harvard. I think he just feels by going to Harvard he knows it all and he prolly isn’t the best in practice.
Michelle from LMB is the Final Boss for people who post cosmetic BS.
😂
Period
Who is that? Can you tell me their youtube channel name? I don’t use tiktok, sorry.
@@shrxddhu1822 lab muffin beauty
@@shrxddhu1822 she's the one who commented a 😂 on this thread, LabMuffinBeauty here on UA-cam
When Auntie Michelle weighs in on your bullshit tiktok, you effed up big time. We love Auntie Labmuffin 🥰
That just when you have to admit you e made a mistake!
If I hear "I'm a board certified dermatologist" again I'm going to scream 😭 so sick of it, I just swipe up the second they say it.
Me too. I’m tired of this. Every time I listen to this I continue scrolling
Clearly that board needs to reevaluate who they certify
The man passed a fucking test and won’t shut up about it. My dude. I’m a nurse and I assure you, even C students can pass a test. I’ve worked with them.
As a non dermatologist MD, I have second hand embarrassment by that dermatologist thinking he knows more about chemistry than the chemists 🤦♀️
It bothers me how a doctor is devalueing the work of scientists in labs. They went through just as much schooling to make the products he gives in clinic.
Why is he acting as if he discovered the science himself... He just read a scientific article about the experiment.. now hes the expert. Wish i could become an expert by reading essays and articles 🤣
That would be so much cheaper than college.
You should still read the essays! It's always good to have some form of understanding of, well, everything!
@@beckstheimpatient4135 yeah totally!! Some essays are super interesting and I like to share the information I read but I never claim them as fact or try and convince people with more knowledge on the subject than me 😂
He didn’t read anything in full, I’m sure. If he did, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. It hurts 😭😭
Guys, these are not essays, they are scientific articles. In an essay you present your own personal opinion or argument, which is a big no-no in science. In scientific articles your own personal opinion or belief is not allowed to interfere with the results, thus it is not expressed.
Essay: "This is what I think about glycolic acid."
Scientific article: "This is what our experiments with glycolic acid show."
"I'm not a scientist, but I've been an influencer for 10 years and this is not good content." Haha, this guy is getting called out from multiple angles 😹😹😹
As someone who has a PhD in genetics, I can tell you that the scientific education in MD programs is SLIM, and the hubris in MD practitioners is STRONG. You won't see me walking into an OR with a scalpel; maybe leave research alone if you don't have training in that field.
Exactly very true…I was going to type that. I have a PhD too and medical doctors do not have scientific education on research methodology and analysis. Only were few who are genuinely interested in research educate themselves.
Another PhD here. Totally agree with you!
I agreee. I’m in stem and my teachers are constantly complaining about the MD program and that they need more deep subjects since they are failing basic stuff they should have covered 💀
In a perfect world MD practitioners should be able to read and analyse new research information at least in our own field. Our work hours don’t include time for this, so we have to use our free time. In such case to carefully analyse one study you need to take hour or few from one or few evenings. The most we usually do, we read conclusions… Some MD maybe don’t do it at all.
Additionally I agree that we use to many buzzwords like scientific, evidence based etc. without having a deep understanding about the study and its methodology.
Also MD’s are very biased. There are lots of treatments Methods ( F.g. all sorts of physical or movement therapies), which lack of evidence based Data, because studies of such treatments are expensive, usually you have a lack of participants and you have to hunt funding from universities or private funds, cause pharmaceutical companies have no interest in funding treatments without medication. Patients experience recovery, colleagues also see good effects, but MD’s just denies such treatments.
You made this point so well. But a lot of people in my generation (I’m in my mid-50’s) consider MDs omniscient. I learned differently when my daughter was an RN on the hospital postpartum floor. She saw a lot of OB docs and pediatricians. One group knew all about pregnant women; one about infants and kids. Neither tried to do the others’ job. Humans are complex creatures. No one can know everything. For this doc to pretend he does is just silly. But will he go for the quintuple back flip…? 😆
Tiktok spreads sooooo much misinformation around skincare 😭 learned some of my best tips on there but also ruined my skincare barrier with the billions of products that were advertised to me everyday
Some of the advice on TikTok is like UA-cam 8 years ago 😭 so much misinformation and outdated views
Biden is banning it for a reason 😂
For real, I’m in esthetician school and my instructor is constantly correcting tiktok misinformation! I’m still trying to decipher what is true or not from my small amount of previous skincare knowledge!
@@JamesWelsh sometimes I wonder why you focus so much on TikTok nonsense when this isn't TikTok...
@@dime.overmatter well misinformation is misinformation, it needs to be corrected. he probably focuses a lot on what's happening on tiktok since a fair bit of common misinformation comes from there.
Thanks for highlighting this issue! Really good point about the disappointing quality of dermatologist content - there are some great posts, but so much is just recycling early 2010s unqualified skincare guru tips. Did NOT know about the makeup thing, going to have to hunt down Robert's video! 🥴
I just came from Jen Luvs video talking about a company who put out a video saying SPF causes cancer and is toxic. So im all riled up and ready to get annoyed by people on tiktok😂😂
The lady who ended up being a chiropractor?!
@JamesWelsh Jen Luv is a UA-cam creator. She covers news in the makeup industry, reviews products and product launches.
@JamesWelsh haha yup! The company is doll10. It's so bad. Their comments are soooo ignorant. My mom has had skin cancer twice so I'm ngl it made me a bit heated
@rockergirl6926 no he was referencing the company who was saying that, not Jen.
@@AKbaby89 Oops! Thanks for clarifying! Sorry @JamesWelsh!
Butter as a primer reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer uses butter to shave, and he discovered that it made his skin feel so nice that he started bathing in butter. He was sitting in a pool of butter on the roof and fell asleep, so when he came back inside Jerry was picturing him as a roasted chicken because he smelled so good 😆
Haha yes!! 😂
YES! I couldn't stop thinking about it. (I think it was Newman, though, who was picturing Kramer as the roast chicken.)
Yup :)
But honestly, this whole greasy, glowy, dewy, shiny skin trend looks exactly like spreading butter over your face.
I'd use margarine instead, since I'm vegan... :)
Omg yes! Newman stirring Kramer like a soup! 😂
@@AliceHunter-0827Yes it was definitely Newman in the coffee shop. 😂
Doctors like that guy are some of the worst. The condescension, the ego, the inability to admit mistakes or acknowledge that someone else could know better… Doctors like him don’t listen to their patients or believe their experiences, they believe that what they learned in a couple of lectures over a decade ago means more than the patient’s lived experience. Doctors like him put people’s lives at risk.
I wholeheartedly believe that public misinformation should be ground for losing your licence (with governance to allow for genuine mistakes). Doctors should protect and enhance wellbeing and these influencers encouraging people to pop prescription pills like hair gummies is a genuine menace
Honestly, I hate to say this but that’s how a big portion of most doctors would act if they were corrected even with scientific evidence backing the truth. I don’t even think it’s the content creator portion of it they just think they know more, all the time. I work with doctors every day of all kinds and you won’t be hearing an apology ever. I’m glad and grateful that there is other professionals doing there best to do damage control and minimize the spread of misinformation. Thank you 🙏🏻
yuuup, doctors HATE being corrected
Yea, they are full of themselves. In my country even medical students act like they're superior than others and just the smartest people in the world 🤭
Boy if I tell you how many times I had to literally argue with a doctor about something I knew to be scientifically proven....
Dermas would straight up think they know your skin better than you, go on automatic pilot(acne=extremely harsh treatment, even if you have sensible skin lol) and not listen.
I had one trying her hardest to ignore me when I told her that her 200 euros treatment for my adult acne didn't work, not even an apology, straight up pretending I didn't just say that she wasted my money.
I remember a couple of years ago, during the big wave of Covid in Italy, having some stupid med student insert himself in a discussion I was having with another passenger(who was not wearing a mask, which was obligatory at the time) on a bus, and saying that there are more cases of tuberculosis in our country than Covid, so ppl should not be alarmed. He straight up said he read that "on Facebook", I googled it because it sounded like bullshit and he was so fckn wrong I shut him up for the rest of a 4 hours trip.
This is so true, most doctors have huge egos and hate being corrected or called out, even medical students have this huge God complex, I’m a clinical psychology student and I had to do some classes with medical students and they were insufferable, and my sister is a doctor so I definitely know what you’re talking about 😂
I was breastfeeding my newborn son exclusively when I needed surgery under general anesthesia. My GP said it would be no problem to nurse my son after I woke up from my surgery. However the surgeon told me absolutely not, I had to "pump and dump" for 3 days after any anaesthesia and introduce a bottle to my newborn. I tried to question him. I knew he was wrong but it made him angry. After he left the room the nurse pulled me aside and advised me to ask for a consult with the anesthetist as she was sure the surgeon was wrong. The anesthetist was amazing, he even informed me the hospital had a policy that breastfed babies be brought to patients' bedsides to nurse as soon as they wake up, from any surgery requiring anaesthesia. Everyone was really supportive but it was funny that the surgeon was adamant that he knew best and was not to be questioned.
As a medical student who has worked with doctors for a while now - it is shocking how often the older generation docs have some personal theory of theirs that they preach as gospel and don't accept criticism on, at the same time enough new doctors just blindly listen without fact checking and perpetuate these things. That's how I got into an argument with a derm who said adapalene shouldn't be used longer than 3 months. 😅
@morgianasartre6709 older generation doc are better than you guys. We used to trust them we don't trust you.
Wait, the hospital had a policy that as soon as you wake up from surgery, your newborn is to be brought to you to be breastfed? So the surgeon wasn’t wrong since it’s hospital policy?
@@morgianasartre6709 that’s why I like young doctors. The best doctor I ever had was quite young. Prob mid 30s. His whole approach was completely different from anything I’ve experienced before. He actually seemed like he cared. I think older doctors are jaded or sick of their job or something cuz they all seem to rush through appts and don’t really do anything
@@stancexpunks The surgeon was unaware of the pro breastfeeding policy of the hospital and he had dated pseudoscientific beliefs that breastmilk needs to expressed and discarded for three days after general anaesthesia. Fortunately the surgeon's nurse pointed me in the direction of asking for a anesthetist consult as that is truly their area of expertise, not the surgeon's.
I LOVEEE how the dude put a white coat and glasses on and was like "i know what i am doing" when he didnt😂😂
Yessss that's what I thought. Lol, lemme put on my glasses so I look extra clever.
I can imagine Paula Dean furiously writing down ideas for butter based makeup after she sees that tiktok 6 months later on Facebook
People don't realize that doctors do get gaps in their education-and they tend to get pissy when corrected.
For example- they don't study nutrition in detail, so when one of them developed a vitamin with about 600% of everything needed daily ("600% that's great and everything you need!") and began pushing it on us nurses, they were doing it without the knowledge that too much of one thing can inhibit another vitamin and or its function, such as calcium inhibiting iron absorption, hugely important because taking iron is hard on stomachs and we should be receiving it via our diet. Too much calcium means we can't absorb enough of what we need.
Too much Vit C can inhibit the absorption of Vit B-12, and the list goes on.
That's not even taking into account fat soluble vs water soluble vitamins, how much/ what vitamins are excreted through urine, etc-so doctors truly are not the fount of all knowledge.
Welcome to the life of a Registered Dietitian, there's a whole job position in most health facilities and beyond because the science of nutrition is THAT complicated.
@rebeccawetzel8414 ❤️ I hear you! Even nurses don't get a lot of education re: nutrition, possibly 2 weeks out of a semester. (Long time ago, so I don't remember. ☺️) thank you for all you do!
@@thesussexbunion, And thanks for all you do also!
He's a young doctor. He hasn't been around that long. A lot of people who are new to their job are more butt holes than older ones. I'm a nurse and I've been treated awefully by doctors who are new to their positions, but the ones who have worked for years are nicer and knows how to listen to the nurse.
Experience is king. The older ones KNOW the more you listen the more you know plus commit less errors. Dunning Kruger effect in action I suppose.
As a pharmacist, I totally agree with you. He's actually worse but I totally agree with you.
A doctor that listens to the nurse, takes them seriously, and respects their position as the one who sees the patient the most, is a good doctor.
Signed, a soon to be qualified nurse
(also if you want night shift doctors to love you forever, if you have to call them to come see a pt offer to make them a brew and some toast. They'll be there in like five minutes)
Not always true. I've recently saw a younger doctor and he was wonderful, he listened to what I was saying and made recommendations and explained why he was making them. My family Dr (he retired last year) was a grumpy old man that seemed prejudiced against women and very opinionated with dated opinions. Don't think that guy had read a medical textbook since he became a Dr, which was probably the 60s. I remember one time he told me to my face that he wouldn't do anything about my insomnia except prescribe me sleeping pills. No tests to see what could be causing it (it is a symptom of many issues) and sleeping pills don't fix the underlying problem and aren't meant for long term use and can really mess people up. I remember leaving his office and crying in my car because he basically told me I was fucked to ever sleep properly. Still suffer from it now but taking magnesium and stopping my birth control pills seem to have helped some.
YOU NEED TO SEE WHY THAT PARTICULAR DOCTOR HAN (not sure if that’s his name but hes a Korean plastic surgeon i think) BLOCKED LABMUFFIN after she called him out! The tea is tea-ing jamessss!
Yeah! I remember myself liking him before but when he responded to lab muffin negatively (i also knew her and highly respect her background), i literally hit the unfollow button.
Oooh I missed this!!
It's dr. Youn I think 🤭
Omg I would’ve unfollowed too!! I’ve seen Michelle debunk herself (about brushing wet hair) so I really trust her integrity. Also she’s never rude, there’s no need to block someone as nice as her. Unless the truth hurts 🙃
What happened?
That person took the phrase"butter face" to a whole new level 😅
I searched for your comment lol
I know there are some actual real ones out there, but I don’t trust or view anyone who claims to be a doctor on social media. There are just too many bad actors.
There are so many people with the Dr title on there that speak out there expertise on purpose. I just found a load of drs who are basically pretending to be derms when they aren’t
I would never want to be treated by a doctor who isn’t willing to learn and triples down on mistakes. Humility please
Also it’s hilarious that to be serious he put on the lab coat AND THEN GLASSES? LOOK HOW SMART YOU ARE WITH YOUR GLASSSSESS.
you're absolutely right to question anybody in a place of authority. nobody is infallible, & often time people in power are not kept in check because those around them are at the very least, misguided as well, & at worst, purposefully corrupting things. be careful, be mindful, do research, stay safe 💕
I like Dr Idriss
@@JamesWelshNow UA-cam has this feature where a doctor can be verified. This should be a norm and the standards should be made public.
Cosmetic chemists breaking out the experiments for proof is so satisfying
When you said he was a Harvard graduate it all clicked….
Wait, do they hand out overinflated egos along with their degrees or something?
@@EmL-kg5gnFrankly, yes. Harvard is alllll about their prestige and they never let you forget it.
it's funny how harvard students think they're superior their grades are actually inflated. they're just insufferable.
Never trust a 'professional' who can't admit they were mistaken and can't be educated by other professionals who know more than he does about certain subjects. He's not a cosmetic chemist, so when cosmetic chemists tell him he is wrong (politely at that) about a chemistry topic, he should be humble enough to listen and learn a thing or two; it would only make him good at his job.
I do wonder if professionals, like derms, spreading misinformation will end up having to deal with consequences via the medical license boards. If they give this advice in office and then it results in damage, they can deal with potential consequences (such as limitations to their license, suspension or losing their license). It is very dangerous to give medical advice outside of a medical setting, as a professional, especially when it's not accurate.
Edit to add:
Btw, I completely agree that those that give accurate info, without sensationalizing stuff, are great... Derms, cosmetic chemists, estheticians, and fellow skincare enthusiests have all educated me so much on skincare. But not all people that claim to be educated and professional meet both of those qualifications, which also being able to communicate their knowledge effectively with an online audience.
There needs to be some form of regulation in place. Regarding the kind of information that’s been given out. It’s fine enough to say ‘this is not medical advice’ but to then go on and spew BS or recommend medications is…odd right?!
@@JamesWelsh yes, I agree. There are already regulations on what medical professionals can give advice on in office, ethically, but I doubt they expand to online advice and content currently. (One of the many ways that regulations are severely behind societal needs.) But also, not all docs are spectacular, and unfortunately many don't stop to double check info that they read in school but may have misremembered when discussing just out of their specialty or didn't stay up to date on. (Honestly, I will always trust a professional that will stop to double check their knowledge and/or bias, and that is willing to say they were wrong, WAY more than someone who claims to know way more than you.)
They certainly would in the UK! Even if just in training, there's a really strong regulatory framework - tbh its almost too strong in some cases (in my experience)
@@JamesWelsh I can only speak for Canada. On paper, the regulatory bodies expect MDs to uphold a standard of care, but they definitely haven't caught up to the reality of social media. They've had trouble pursuing MDs who spread dangerous c0v!d misinformation, let alone skincare advice. Elon Musk is paying the legal bills for one of them
C's get degrees lol--as a woman in a STEM career field, I don't think it's a coincidence that the first couple of chemists who corrected him were women and he melted down about his authoriTAH, doing the whole bit with his coat and whipping off those glasses. soooo common.
This reminds me of one Christmas when me (then a student, now biologist) and my mum (a chemist) got into an argument with my aunt's bf. He claimed that the pH scale went from 0 to 7 and 0 was neutral. He refused to give in even after we told him our qualifications. We had to shove a Wikipedia article in his face for him to shut up.
And then we blame the sephora kids for what they do in a world of adults doing such claims
I think that’s all over TikTok-which is why I don’t have it :)
seriously
Weird, I apply my serums, moisturizer, and sunscreen immediately after glycolic acid and it still exfoliates the shit out of my face. It's almost as if this guy needs to go back to skin school.
Through getting higher education I’ve kinda realised that most of these people are goofy 💀 there’s so much to learn it’s one of those “ the more you know the less intelligent you feel”
That video on the kill cover foundation sent me when I saw it. and people do this all the time. "oh no, the super dewy light coverage foundation that comes in three shades doesn't look good on me, a super-oily skintype who wants full coverage in a different shade!!" why'd you buy it, bestie? "mm actually I didn't like this serum for drying out your oils, cause it just made my dry skin worse" or "actually the ceramide facial oil just made my oily t-zone even worse" what did you think would happen??? literacy is important y'all
When you started with ”he quadrupled down” I thought you were joking… hilarious 😂
I hate how some people will double and triple down on their misinformation instead of just listening!
Butter girl is definitely taking the piss
Dr Mike also did a video calling out that derm telling everyone to take the same medication every day, said it could actually be lethal for some people with existing conditions to take the medications he listed. Scary thought that viewers might act before fact checking and could become seriously unwell.
It's a good thing it's prescription at least, so hopefully the doctor who people would try to get it from would at least check for those conditions. Still, so irresponsible to do recommendations like that. Nothing works for every single person on the planet, certainly not medications, which are meant for the treatment of a specific condition. Medication has side effects even when used correctly and for its proper purpose, then it's just a case of benefits vs potential harm, absolutely insane to tell people to risk those side effects just because.
When Michelle chimes in, you really stepped in it! 😂😂😂😂
In defiance I’ve just applied my THE ORDINARY GLYCOLIC ACID immediately after washing my face. mwha ha ha 😝
I just saw a reel last night about using this glycolic acid followed by a thick moisturizer for KP on the arms, and ofc there were people talking about “deactivation” of the acid in the comments!! This type of misinformation is so harmful and pervasive! Thanks for using your platform to talk about this.
I am using the Ordinary Glycolic acid for years now and I've never experienced any issues with it (I have sensitive skin) and I am using it sometimes on my damp skin and put skincare products over it almost immediately.
My skin always feels so smooth.
This Dr. Charles guy gives me grifter vibes.
Have you ever sprayed it on your scalp? I want to try it but worried about my hair lol
@@kayblossom8505 Wow, I've never thought about that.
But I think it would be best to use a cleansing shampoo, just to be safe.
I mean, I am not sure about the amount to apply and my scalp is sensitive as well, I just don't want to "gamble".
@@The_Catnip I get you
Loved this long discussion, the MD roast was priceless 😂 And shout out to Lab Muffin, that's my girl!!!
sorry.. butter as primer? 😭
😭😭😭
It must smell lovely 🤢😂
The break outs😰 I know that in some cultures use ghee as a moisturizer but butter as a primer…
@@memonos ghee would be pretty similar to coconut oil, right? i can get behind that one
but i can’t see butter work even remotely as a primer.. i’m assuming she’s not being serious but you just never know 😭
Probably the same type of person who uses baby wipes to clean their face 😱
As an esthetician, dermatologists like this GET ON MY LAST NERVE! They tout their medical degree and use it as a trump card. It’s wack-a-doodles like that man who make my job harder because I have to work 10x harder to debunk their LIES all because they somehow got a medical degree.
It goes both ways. I’ve seen estheticians spout nonsense too.
Who in the UK can afford a tub of butter that big?! She's melting money hunny
If you have 500-1000ml of water on your face during your skincare routine, your biggest concern should be how you fell into the sink and getting out before you drown.
That experiment Ava Perkins did with the pH and dilution was so interesting! Never have I been more convinced that what I know is ✨️limited✨️ 😂 Edit: and Lab Muffin about buffer systems! Very cool!
He should've just admitted that he was wrong.. that would've been less embarrassing.
James, your videos are consistently amazing, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be included. Your support for science communicators is commendable ❤. The increasing use of authority by medical experts on social media is becoming problematic. My advice to everyone is to remain critical and always ask, "What is your actual expertise in this field?" When you encounter an expert discussing topics beyond their area of expertise.
Thank you for your service. There is so much misinformation on SM,i appriciate people with real expertise weighing in.
@@mheuman 🤗🤗 always a pleasure
Just because you have a lab coat or a piece of paper that says “insert title here” doesn’t mean you can’t do your own research on skincare treatments/devices and protocols used. But when you have been called out; accept the constructive criticisms.. own it and move on. I respect someone like James valued opinion. Because he’s been doing deep dives, using products & disclosing all honesty for years. Why do you think James & Robert have a huge following. Because they don’t sugar coat 💩 and call it candy 🍫 Virtually sending big bear hugs from Portland, Oregon 💐🫶🏼💐
I’ve noticed this really gross pattern of so-called professionals denouncing affordable and effective skincare as being harmful or ineffective. Why can’t normal people have nice skin as well?
I just learned that interpretating is an actual word! It's British English. This is why the internet is beautiful and can bring people closer. I would have thought someone was mispronouncing it, and I would have looked so uneducated. Thank you, James! 💜💜💜
I'm a licensed pharmacist and have been trained how to compound medicine for patients. The stuff derms want us to throw together is WILD. Most of them can't be taught
I LOVE Korean cushion make up. I have tried A LOT of western brands that don't work for me, both in color and texture. Finding the Korean type was a revelation for me. I am not Asian, but I have fair skin. My skin is also dry.
Korean makeup in general is great for natural beauty lovers, because the standard there leans much more heavily towards natural makeup being the preference. It's just ridiculous to say all cushion foundations suck when they're all different, just like foundations in other markets.
I’m about to graduate from esthetician school and as people probably know, these schools don’t teach much, but one thing we learned real quick was how to neutralize an acid peel, and babe it ain’t with water😂😂
Oh no, the butter thing made me feel sick 😮 I also don't believe she does this! I was waiting for her to say it was a prank
To get an MD the number of chemistry classes he would have had to take, I just don’t understand how he can be that wrong. You learn this in general chemisty!!!
I do wonder how much chemistry is part of a derms education 🧐
Depends where he is, some places you can do an MD straight out of high school without prior science study.
Ok just saw he went to Harvard he definitely should have done some Chemistry lol
It's honestly kind of scary to me that I dermatologist doesn't know how skin care works...
like I understand that they are not a chemist but if you don't have a fundamental understanding of how products affect the skin and work how can you possibly call yourself a Doctor who specializes in skin?
The switch between the two stories is so funny to me & both are ridiculous! Once the butter story started & I saw her put the butter on her face, I got the shivers because ugh it looks gross
The “mmm I sawr it inna study, you’re just trying to get views” had me dying 😂😂😂
as a pale af person a lot of asian brands cushions are better shade matches than i find in western beauty because we like to make things for more warm tones/have an orange tint
that being said, it is a bit disheartening that they aren't even making tones for the people they even have in asia because they are so obsessed with whitewashing and most koreans aren't even using their shade but most cushions i found to be my holy grails when it comes to foundations ngl and you're right that a lot of people are only going w/ western beauty standards when it comes to things
this is also why i prefer east asian contours because they tend to be actually more gray in tone (like a contour should be) versus the western default of 'orange'
different things work for different people, shocker lol
we all like different finishes, we all have different skin types, skin tones etc. even my own brother is total opposite to me
As a PhD, I despise it when MD's and other doctors spread misinformation. They give all doctors a bad name, and they are the reason there is so much mistrust within the medical and psychological communities.
This derm tantrum-ing is hilarious 🤣 and yes hon, you're right he's 12 🤭
Aaaand what did butter do so wrong to this woman??whyyyy not eat it??it belongs to the mouth not under makeup!!! 😭
Love Michelle and her content. I like to imagine the creators suddenly hearing boss music whenever she posts a video debunking their misinformation.
The person using the butter actually made me feel ill when she was rubbing it on her face and eating it. And like you say, it’s quite difficult to wash off when it gets on your skin. It feels gross.
The way you and Robert have synchronized video topics today is fabulous - twinsiiies 👯♀️
This is why I watch James he tells the truth and debunks the ridiculousness and gives reference to the facts he gives 💜🖤💜🖤💜🖤
I am a doctor.. but damn some doctors do think that they know everything and have answers to all problems.. WHICH IS NOT TRUE AT ALL!!
Is there any evidence that guy is who/what he says he is? Because even I know the difference between neutralizing an acid vs. diluting it.
I believe there is. It just appears he can’t handle others knowing more than him!
“Threw his toys out of the Priam…” 🤣🤣🤣
Hi! I am a product safety toxicologist for one of the largest consumer goods companies in the world. I just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to you and Robert both, for always providing TRUSTWORTHY, quality content... and always making a point to defer to experts where applicable. This is why the experts love your content and follow you too!
Dr charles MD vs the science community is like the nerd version of the kendrick vs drake beef
Thank you! Misinformation can be everything from annoying to dangerous. Before believing anyone, I check their ‘references’. Is that person actually who they present themselves to be? Reputation amongst peers? Does what they say make scientific sense? What is their motivation? (Clout, self promotion of products, money, etc). Just because it’s online doesn’t mean it’s true. 😂
The reaching into the butter with her hands made me cringe so bad like YOU COULD HAVE STILL COOKED WITH THAT what are you doing 😂
Tiktok content is just what youtube was few years ago... people saying drinking lemon water or eating garlic will "clear" your skin, putting plasters on face will remove wrinkles and so on and on 😂
Also i love dr Idrs ❤
Voices of reason. Exactly. And there are too few of them. Thank you for being one of them. We appreciate you and thank you for your integrity.
Thank you James for always coming in clutch just when we need you the most! Much love from North Carolina 💜🖤💜
I study sciences with quite an overlap with medical practice and the following is very important to understand:
Doctors don't ALWAYS have the firm*est* grasp on the in depth science behind what they're doing. They don't have to. Their priorities lie different. They oftentimes NEED to consolidate with specialists for clinical chemistry, metabolic chemistry etc. to get an educated opinion and elaboration about what these numbers mean.
This is normal and having this communication competency is very important for your general doctors.
I think what is happening with this guy is that he's a dermatologist and generally speaking he's not confronted with his patients life being at stake, so he diluted himself into thinking that he doesn't need anybody else and that he's a polymath to a higher degree than doctors in general already are.
I'm not a cosmetic chemist or in the industry at all, so I really have no idea. But it seems illogical to me that the companies creating these products aren't taking human error into account.
To leave such little margin for error in any skincare product seems ridiculous to me.
Damn, sh*t got real in this video 🙌🏽👏🏽 thanks for posting these! The misinformation out there is wild.
Omg yes. I was about to about to make a video about why I am soooooo tired of influencers saying "BRUTALLY HONEST REVIEW"- like, there is a way to be direct when you are speaking, but the unnecessary harshness (that is often unfounded on anything specific or unique to their singular experience or preferences) like.... 😑 the product probably is for someone, even if its not you- and its more accurate (and impressive) to be able to speak about who else it may be for
Also, I just love this video so much. Thank you, James.
I've seen some of his crap on UA-cam, and I just dismissed it. I love that you're calling this schmuck out, not discrediting his doctor of skin, but how dare he come for a chemist like okay!! Sit down 'Dr.'
I remember my father laughing at Dr Oz walking out in his scrubs, and we all see the crap he tries to push. Stay your profession in the office and off social media. Cheers ❤
There is a history of using lard or tallow as a base for (cheap) face powder, usually by the poorer classes who couldn't afford the cold creams or pomatums of the day. Lard or tallow, not butter, and it seems to be something people used out of necessity or desperation when they couldn't afford anything else. Haven't tried it myself, may do at some stage just to see what it's like, but yeah definitely not the same as slathering on butter as a primer. Just use a proper cold cream if you're going to do that, it basically does the same thing and it's a heck of a lot safer for your skin.
Tallow can make a good moisturiser so I could see that as an option but butter seems like a greesy mess
@@shelby6 I have a cold cream/moisturiser that was recreated from the Regency era that uses lard as one of its ingredients, and I find it so soothing and nourishing to use as a night cream or just an additional winter moisturiser. Haven't tried Tallow, but have heard some good anecdotal reports. Butter on the other hand, yeah hello grease city!
I think tallow balms have been making a comeback in popularity in recent years! Makes sense to use tallow or lard, it’s just a pure fat like plant oils. But I’m pretty sure butter goes rancid real quick, especially if warm… like on your skin 😭
It was used by actors to remove make up. Cut half a block of lard in hal put in a bowl over a pan of water, when melted remove and beat with a fork to whip it up. Leave overnight in the bowl. Next day drain any remaining liquid if any. Add a few drops of rose geranium oil(the original way) or rose,or lavender oil. Beat to. In the oil. Pot and leave to set, if some oil surfaces beat in the pot and leav Use to remove make up. Dont use a lot. Remove make up again with it. Wash face or use rosewater as a toner.
@claireeyles7560 I have written a regency or Georgian recipe for an actors make up remover. It uses half a block of lard, approx 4oz. It would have to be used quickly in warm weather due to it being in unstable natural fat. I've tried it, it is good. I keep mine in the fridge. I use it as eye make up remover for waterproof mascara.
When she smears it on her face then eats it … ew
Rather good video today, Janes. Thanks!
Love these deep dives!
5:02 the problem I ha e seen on tiktok mostly is that so many ppl will see someone claim something, doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. They will then make a video stating the same thing with no research on it, then more ppl will parrot it. Misinformation is unfortunately then spread so fast that ppl then belive the wrong thing so firmly that they refuse to listen to reason.
I've had to deal with a few ppl like that in the comments of different subject videos
A lot of people like to hide behind fancy titles and lab papers, but can't back a damn thing up when asked. I've seen so many people trying to use studies to prove a point that is *disproven* by that very study. It's ridiculous 🙄
Loved this video so much and really needed it today love you james ❤
Thank you for the heads up 😁
I mean....you can't go from one frame saying you love butter for that dewy, glowy look and then cut to a face full of matte make-up. These are different goals. Licking the extra butter off a finger kind of clinched it as a troll tactic, though. (Also, even with the benefit of the doubt, this is something you do when you're young. The idea of slathering butter on my face just sounds unpleasant.)
I know chemistry is "not his area of expertise," but in the US, you generally need to have studied both chemistry and biology before going into any medical studies, including dermatology. And as a consumer, I would expect that any doctor I go to see would have at least a basic understanding of any other science that is relevant to their field. Science does not exist in isolation, and different fields overlap quite a bit. Chemistry is very important to how our bodies work, including our skin. And it's not as if the information he was getting wrong was particularly difficult or obscure. As Lab Muffin pointed out, this is high school-level stuff.
Amazing video James💜💜💜💜
You look great, James!!❤
Love that this video made me immediately buy the glycolic acid toner lol 🎉