Good to see some UA-cam content about tactile feedback. The other approach to this is to have them attached to 2 seperate heel plates. That way you don't have any flex under braking and get good stereo seperation. That's the route I took when I last upgraded my pedals. There's a great (but very long) thread on Race Department about tactile feedback for anyone who's interested looking in to it
Ahh, the flex would drive me crazy. But having a solution where a bass shaker is gradually increasing with brake pressure and adding another level of rumbling when ABS is kicking in, would be fantastic. But I'd rather had that integrated in the pedal set (but not like with this tiny rumble motor like Fanatec, must be something stronger).
Thanks, I'll try to put some dampening in the places where the shakers are installed, the knocking noise they make sometimes irritates me, irritates my wife and my neighbors, lol
I got 2 of these on the back rails and the loud clacking drove me nuts. I found out simvibe sold a modified version that they simply took apart and crammed carpet pad on the end caps. I did the same and it helped greatly but i feel they could still be better. I use simhub to distinguish left and right and can feel the difference after hours and hours of tuning. Definitely gonna try some different mounts.
Thanks for for the info, that's really interesting and useful. Mine clack as well so I have to adjust the settings to zone that out by adjusting the volume and frequency of the effects. I'll definitely try this out, thanks again for sharing.👍
Nice timing! I just got a bunch of these, but am planning to add them to the 8020 near the seat rails. My idea is that they would better isolate the vibrations on the seat vs the rest of the rig and floor (aka, neighbours)
@@kezman82a It went very well actually! I have 8 of these rubber standoffs. They way I placed them was between two pieces of 8020: specifically, above the main frame but under the two pieces that bolt directly to the seat (imagine as if they were seat rails...). Then two Dayton Audio BST-1, each mounted on a small mdf frame that is then bolted under each of these "side rails". So that Daytons are solidly mounted with the seat, but the whole contraption has the standoffs vs the main frame. Tried with and without and definitely a big difference. I had to take out the front part as of right now, because I need to incline my seat forward and have not figured out a way to do this without putting a lot of lateral stress on the rubber standoffs... but I'll eventually figure something out. Sidenote: I also added some Dayton Audio tt-25 directly behind my gas and brake pedal strictly for wheel slip and it is also fantastic for feedback ^_^
Nice one Jez, another good video as usual, looking at that pedal flex it seems fine and probably will give you feedback on your braking force applied could be a valuable gift horse there, Just ordered three 1440p 1ms 27" screens so Santa is coming early for me, I just hope I have enough room I'm my man cave, or I will cry, any ways keep up the good work Jez and Merry Christmas to you and all your subscribers
Do you have them separate or on the same signal? I guess my question is… can you feel the difference between the left and right buttkicker on the pedals ?
Hi - Thanks for all your videos - I find them really helpful and interesting. Do the isolators on the pedal plate have good lateral support when braking ? Was thinking about doing the same as you here - just worried about the flex - have you had any signs of stress on these yet ? I'm using the Sprints, so quite a bit of force used. And would one transducer be sufficient if you can't feel the left and right ? Just one more question for now ... would the NLR V3 need any isolation from the main rig if it had a bass shaker fitted ? And if so, would there be loss of performance / feel in the seat movement ? Thanks in advance.
The isolators are still in perfect condition. The HE Sprints are basically the same as my HE pro's. There is some flex as I showed in the video, but I can't feel that while braking. A single transducer is plenty of tactile, I've have tested that too. The seat mounted to the NLV3 is on a pivot and not fixed so already separated, so isolating the NLV3 won't help with anything. Personally, I didn't find adding a transducer to the NLV3 seat post effective. I would recommend the Realteus Forcefeel or JetPad.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for your reply ! That's good that the anti vibration mounts are holding up well. The flex doesn't look too bad as you say, and you can't feel it when driving. I think I may give this a go. I've got a Buttkicker Gamer 2 on my seat rails of the P1-X at the moment, and I've botched together rubber isolators (the rubber feet that came with the rig) for the moment - I raised the rails and they sit underneath the corner brackets - as the vibrations without the rubbers were just awful. These did help, but I'm looking at similar ones that you have for your pedal plate for this also. I don't think the feet rubbers are the best for anti vibration ! I'm just contemplating getting a NLR V3 - what's your thoughts on the added immersion of this together with the transducers ? The added immersion of the transducers is great and I'm also thinking of a wind sim, but would the effects of the V3 be lost mixed with the others ? Questions, questions, questions : ) Thanks again.
@@1969alw Motion and tactile from transducers are different sensations so it's okay they do work together well. I haven't put much thought into adding wind to my set up. It's a different effect too so I don't think anything will get drowned out. It's really about balancing the strength of all the stimuli around you.
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Good to see some UA-cam content about tactile feedback. The other approach to this is to have them attached to 2 seperate heel plates. That way you don't have any flex under braking and get good stereo seperation. That's the route I took when I last upgraded my pedals. There's a great (but very long) thread on Race Department about tactile feedback for anyone who's interested looking in to it
I’m interested! Do you have a link by chance?
Ahh, the flex would drive me crazy. But having a solution where a bass shaker is gradually increasing with brake pressure and adding another level of rumbling when ABS is kicking in, would be fantastic. But I'd rather had that integrated in the pedal set (but not like with this tiny rumble motor like Fanatec, must be something stronger).
I was going to use skate bushings to isolate my seat bracket from the frame. I ordered these rubber mounts to use instead. Thank you
Thanks, I'll try to put some dampening in the places where the shakers are installed, the knocking noise they make sometimes irritates me, irritates my wife and my neighbors, lol
I got 2 of these on the back rails and the loud clacking drove me nuts. I found out simvibe sold a modified version that they simply took apart and crammed carpet pad on the end caps. I did the same and it helped greatly but i feel they could still be better. I use simhub to distinguish left and right and can feel the difference after hours and hours of tuning. Definitely gonna try some different mounts.
Thanks for for the info, that's really interesting and useful. Mine clack as well so I have to adjust the settings to zone that out by adjusting the volume and frequency of the effects. I'll definitely try this out, thanks again for sharing.👍
Nice timing! I just got a bunch of these, but am planning to add them to the 8020 near the seat rails. My idea is that they would better isolate the vibrations on the seat vs the rest of the rig and floor (aka, neighbours)
How did it go? Do you think putting one under/on to the bucketseat would be better/worse?
@@kezman82a It went very well actually! I have 8 of these rubber standoffs. They way I placed them was between two pieces of 8020: specifically, above the main frame but under the two pieces that bolt directly to the seat (imagine as if they were seat rails...). Then two Dayton Audio BST-1, each mounted on a small mdf frame that is then bolted under each of these "side rails". So that Daytons are solidly mounted with the seat, but the whole contraption has the standoffs vs the main frame.
Tried with and without and definitely a big difference. I had to take out the front part as of right now, because I need to incline my seat forward and have not figured out a way to do this without putting a lot of lateral stress on the rubber standoffs... but I'll eventually figure something out.
Sidenote: I also added some Dayton Audio tt-25 directly behind my gas and brake pedal strictly for wheel slip and it is also fantastic for feedback ^_^
@@jpdmiranda thanx for reply! 😁! I will go for the small dayton’s behind the pedals also! 🍻
Thanks for the video, is there a limit in leght of the screw for the female part of the isolator? It digs on the rubber?
Wow, you have two of those big bass shakers on the pedal deck!💪😃
Nice fix buddy, and a merry christmas!🎅👍
🎁Merry Christmas🎁 to you too fella, and congrats on hitting 1k. Nice way to round off the year.
@@SimRacingCorner Thank you so much mate, came a bit unexpected, didn't think I would cross it untill next year.. :D
Do you think if you have one mounted to the cockpit itself one should but isolators on the bottom of the cockpit to isolate it from the floor?
Is the 200watt amp enough for both of these ? Or do you have a different amp?
200 watt app is more than enough.
Nice one Jez, another good video as usual, looking at that pedal flex it seems fine and probably will give you feedback on your braking force applied could be a valuable gift horse there, Just ordered three 1440p 1ms 27" screens so Santa is coming early for me, I just hope I have enough room I'm my man cave, or I will cry, any ways keep up the good work Jez and Merry Christmas to you and all your subscribers
Thanks as always, and a very Merry Christmas to you Dave. Sounds really great, I'd love to go triples one day or a 49"er. Space being the factor too.
It micmics the pedal flex of a broken firewall spot weld common on the subaru wrx ha
Mate would this trick work with my seat? I have exactly the same situation but just replace the pedals with a seat.
I don't see why not, as long as you pick some heavier duty rubber mounts to carry the weight.
Could it have been fixed by just using one? Can you just use one? Don’t know this product! Do they even come as a pair? I guess they probably do.
Do you have them separate or on the same signal? I guess my question is… can you feel the difference between the left and right buttkicker on the pedals ?
They are not separated signals. They are too close to make a difference in a stereo configuration.
Hi - Thanks for all your videos - I find them really helpful and interesting. Do the isolators on the pedal plate have good lateral support when braking ? Was thinking about doing the same as you here - just worried about the flex - have you had any signs of stress on these yet ? I'm using the Sprints, so quite a bit of force used. And would one transducer be sufficient if you can't feel the left and right ? Just one more question for now ... would the NLR V3 need any isolation from the main rig if it had a bass shaker fitted ? And if so, would there be loss of performance / feel in the seat movement ? Thanks in advance.
The isolators are still in perfect condition. The HE Sprints are basically the same as my HE pro's. There is some flex as I showed in the video, but I can't feel that while braking.
A single transducer is plenty of tactile, I've have tested that too.
The seat mounted to the NLV3 is on a pivot and not fixed so already separated, so isolating the NLV3 won't help with anything. Personally, I didn't find adding a transducer to the NLV3 seat post effective. I would recommend the Realteus Forcefeel or JetPad.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for your reply ! That's good that the anti vibration mounts are holding up well. The flex doesn't look too bad as you say, and you can't feel it when driving. I think I may give this a go.
I've got a Buttkicker Gamer 2 on my seat rails of the P1-X at the moment, and I've botched together rubber isolators (the rubber feet that came with the rig) for the moment - I raised the rails and they sit underneath the corner brackets - as the vibrations without the rubbers were just awful. These did help, but I'm looking at similar ones that you have for your pedal plate for this also. I don't think the feet rubbers are the best for anti vibration !
I'm just contemplating getting a NLR V3 - what's your thoughts on the added immersion of this together with the transducers ? The added immersion of the transducers is great and I'm also thinking of a wind sim, but would the effects of the V3 be lost mixed with the others ?
Questions, questions, questions : ) Thanks again.
@@1969alw Motion and tactile from transducers are different sensations so it's okay they do work together well.
I haven't put much thought into adding wind to my set up. It's a different effect too so I don't think anything will get drowned out.
It's really about balancing the strength of all the stimuli around you.
@@SimRacingCorner OK - thanks for your input. It’s time to tinker ! Keep up the great content 👍🏼
Do you have a link for those brackets?
I bought the ButtKickers 2nd-hand with the brackets so I don't know where they came from.
@@SimRacingCorner ok cool
@@SimRacingCorner I just ordered the pro I’ll let you know how it works out with the new amp
Can you feel the difference between left and right through this setup? 👍
No, the vibrations spread across the entire plate.
Are you Jez Quigley off of Coronation Street?
Not the last time I checked. I'm much nastier than him.
@@SimRacingCorner I'm actually Steve McDonald's dad and I am nastier than you so I am Quigley you big fool.