The Kent State Massacre: When the National Guard Murdered Students
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Nice Job on talking about the Dark Side of American History from The Vietnam War to WACO and Oklahoma City Bombing I thank you for giving a international look at American History and Politics.
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Another even that I would love you to cover is the Dayton Ohio riots. My dad use to tell me that he was Dayton for his dads funeral when the riots broke out and he watched the shadows from the flames danced on his wall.
a few stones ye all it takes is one wrong hit and your dead. you play stupid games you win stupid prices cant say i feel sorry for idiots
My grandma was an old fashioned lady. She never raised her voice or cussed etc. My Dad said the only time he ever heard her yell at his Dad was the day Kent State occurred and his Dad made some comment about the dirty hippies deserving it or something and that was the day my refined lady like grandma said some things to him that weren't very lady like at all. Get em grandma!
Dad is the logical one. Those morons went and brainwashed each other and got involved in something that they didn't understand exactly like they do today. Ask the modern group of hippies what a woman is and they go radio silent. Ask them if it's okay to chemically castrate their child and they'll cheer it on to help confirm the child's delusion. Today the graduated group is running parts of America with the same ideals that got the Kent group shot. Your Dad's right. They are dirty Liberals with no moral structure and cause problems wherever they go. When Conservatives protest, there's always peace. When Leftists protest, there's always violence because they're emotional little twats who can't control themselves.
Your grandma is surely a valkyrie in the next life. Thank you for sharing this story
There is plenty of footage of citizens who felt the same way as your Grandfather. Very sad.
@@ricknorris1466 Nothing sad about it. FAFO.
yet she likely still lived a full life with someone she knew to be morally bankrupt. probably cause she didnt work and divorce would change that
The part that is missing is that no crimincal conviction had been obtained against any of the shooters.
That’s because there’s two sides to everything you need to research. See what the guardsmen had to say. Don’t believe everything blindly you see on UA-cam.
What do you mean. They where convicted of war crimes by the board.
@@troybrow743 Where are you getting that from? No individual criminal convictions resulted. Some civil setttlements were reached between family members and individual guardsmen. FBI deemed the actions unnecessary and the excuses fabricated subsequently. No admission of wrongdoing on part of the government was ever given.
@@mikealvord55thank you. We see the same thing happening nowadays with protests etc. media reports too soon and one-sided before investigation takes place leading to civil unrest. Unfortunately Even with the truth found u don't hear it through the media and the false narrative continues
@@troybrow743nope
I'm Australian ex-military. When I first joined and completed bootcamp, while I was waiting for my training to begin, i worked with the promotion examination warrant officer.
He had us go to the promax camp as protesters (amongst other things like 'drunken idiots' or even 'infiltrators' which is a hilarious story in it's own right).
Most of the Sargent promax course understood that we were just following orders and nothing we said were our true feelings, we were only acting. That however doesn't stop psycho's from being a psycho. One of these idiots trying to make Sargent pushed one of us into razor wire after breaking the guys arm.
Needless to say, he was sent back to his unit, he wasn't going to be promoted. This just goes to show that when you give authority to the wrong person, tradgedy will follow. This didn't kill my friend, but it pushed his course starting date back (for his recovery) and he'd no longer be studying with the same folks he went through bootcamp with.
We weren't even really protesting properly, it was just meant to be a simulation. Which was super obvious to anyone paying attention.
Apparently, one of them didn't get the memo...
If you give (or believe you have) authority over another human being you are a truly dreadful person. Nobody is your property or your slave nor are they your livestock.
And it’s not just a psycho (although those certainly exist), it can just be a scared squaddie who in a moment of terror pulls the trigger. The national guard here should not have had loaded magazines on their weapons - if that same scared squaddie has to stop, reach for a magazine with live ammo, insert it into his weapon and then cock it, there is more time for him to stop and think what he is doing, rather than reacting instinctively to a rock being thrown at him.
Whatever
Did your friend get damages from the fool that did that?
@@TheSegert I have no idea. I know that he got nothing at the time. Our military only compensates you for permanent medical conditions. So if there's nothing physically wrong with him, the only thing he could claim (in that situation) would be the scarring and disfigurement.
In the mid 70's I was a USMC MP and during riot control training one thing that was stressed was NEVER issue live ammo indiscriminately. Live ammo was present, in the hands (well cartridge belts) of NCOs and could, if needed, be distributed in seconds. BUT never just handed to everyone.
I did crowd control in 2012 only the team leaders carried bean bags and a shotgun. We had shields and thats bout it. Giving a bunch of soldiers weapons wouldn't be good.
Not sure if those guys got the memo
I graduated high school in 1987, and this was just a single photo with a bare paragraph in our history book.
Thank you for always highlighting the victims in your videos!
I graduated in 1984 and it's amazing what we were NOT taught about concerning our own history, never mind global history
Graduated 2009 in Pennsylvania. No mention of it at all. The band Devo taught me about it.
The Vietnam war and the anti war movement including Kent State was covered extensively in this years UK History GCSE exam syllabus.
Graduated in 2016, no mention of this at all in any of my history modules or lessons. Its so sad that this event "changed the country," but the country doesn't acknowledge its existence..
'85 here, and didn't learn ANY 20th century American History at ALL until college. And even then, it was so whitewashed.
I was a high school freshman in the Cleveland, Ohio area when this happened. I’ll never forget the photo of Maryann kneeling by Jeffrey’s body
I remember the right wing rumor that she had a sexually transmitted disease. Anything to smear anyone associated with the day's events.
Thanks very much for covering the story. I am a Kent State alumni so am very familiar with it. To add insult to injury, the artist hired to design the memorial scammed the university so there is really only a small walkway and a sign on the top of the Commons. As well as the 4 spots in the parking lots outlined by lights to honor the places the victims fell. Notably, as far as I learned, none of the victims were even attending the protest, just walking past and got hit.
One of my mom’s friends is someone who was a student *while* it was happening. He remembers walking out of the library to hear gunfire and screaming. He had no idea what to do, so he ran back into the library to wait out whatever was happening
Part of the great US tradition of police shooting innocent unarmed civilians dead.
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE OUR GOVT FOR KILLING STUDENTS , THEN AGAIN THAT IS WHAT AMERICA DOES TO ITS OWN CHIDLREN , NEVER GET IDEA THAT AMERICA LIKES CHILDREN AS THEY DO NOT ! NOR ANY RESPECT AND THEN VIETNAM , WHERE THEY JUST MURDERED MY GENERATION OF BOYS AND THEY WERE ALL POOR WHITE AND BLACK SOTHERN BOYS ALSO , HOW IS THAT FOR THE HATE AMERICANS HAVE FOR SOUTHERNERS UNTIL THE LITTLE ELITES FINALLY GOT DRAFTED THEN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE BUT NOT FOR OUR SOUTHERN BOYS !!
Ahh a fellow flash. It’s quite sad, walking to class can be pretty somber sometimes.
My grandfather at the time was chief of police for Hudson Ohio and a ww2 vet he said the national guard handled thus wrong g and the persons who started it should never have been allowed on the campus and that the roto on campus should never have had live ammo on campus
I went there in 2021, just driving home to Wisconsin from the East Coast.
I was shocked at how just ordinary the place is, that something of that nature happened there at all.
They did a great job at memorializing the spots where the people died.
Also crazy that members of the Pretenders and Divo were in the crowd.
I looked up the photos of Jeffrey Miller which are still up all over the place. As an American I never knew anything about this shooting, and seeing Miller with blood literally pooling down from his neck and head was just gruesome. It was very powerful indeed for the anti war movement and RIP to those who died so senselessly.
Speaking of national gaurdsman. You should check out the Little Rock incident. They activated the 101st AB division to protect the students because the National Gaurd werent doing their jobs.
Eisenhower didn’t federalize the Arkansas National Guard; he trusted the 101st Airborne. During the University of Alabama crisis JFK federalized the AL National Guard.
actually, the national guard was doing their job at the time to keep the students out of the school as was ordered by the governer.. the president activated the guard and sent the 101 in- taking the authority away from the governor. my dad was the driver for the commander at the time and told me some wild stories about it
@@grosssaucetell dads storys
Unfortunately they were doing their job, in the sense that they were ordered to not let the little rock nine in
I completed my undergrad degree at Kent State. There is a steel sculpture on the south side of Taylor Hall (now the May 4th Visitors Center) that has several bullet holes still visible in it.
I grew up not far from Kent and was 11 years old, with two brothers in other state universities in May 1970. Our dinner table was always a place of friendly debate but during those times it was horrible. My frightened father railed against protesters while my brothers defending their rights. It went on what seemed like forever. My parents desperately wanted my brothers to just keep their heads down and get their educations. Two of my brothers were rejected from the draft(terrible vision) and the third “got a high number” and was unlikely to be called up but the tension around the draft clouded my childhood.
Those times still echo in our lives. Kent State still has a faint memory of tragedy associated with it. Did you know that still in the US a male student has to be registered for the draft to apply for government-backed college loans?
My high-school always talked about it like it was a law that all males had to be signed up for the draft 😅 until today I genuinely thought anyone male was required by law
@@characterblub2.0
Unless something has changed in the last 20+ years, you do have to sign up to be drafted if you're over 18 and male, if you want any sort of government benefits now or in the future. That includes students loans, disability, Social Security etc...
@@null6634 thanks for letting me know. Growing up female, I didn't get information on it whatsoever.
Men are not actually citizens in the US. That is, the rights that are claimed to belong by natural right to all US citizens don't actually belong to men, we have to volunteer to potentially be killed (sign up for the draft) in order to be allowed to vote. Women, of course, need do nothing receive this natural right. Which makes men second class residents, not actual citizens of the US. Men who do not sign up for the draft are guilty of a felony, subject to 5 years in prison and a $300,000 fine as well as not being ineligible for federal grants and employment. And women in the US live their lives claiming to be oppressed. Try walking a mile in the shoes of a man, who is treated as disposable in the US, before you start waving the flag of "I'm oppressed," ladies.
It's called 'Selective Service'. I remember hearing late-night radio PSAs a little over a decade ago.
History like these should never be forgotten or swepped under the rug like some people or our politicians would like to see gone.
*Maga Republican politicians.
Ironic, since this video will most likely end up getting hidden, like most that criticize the US government.
A lot of people completely about this though
Because often the history they try to cover up is the history you should study because it can give you insight on historical and modern events
swept
In 1974 I was a high school student in Texas, and a teacher noticed I was reading a book about the Kent State shooting. His unsolicited opinion was that the students got what they deserved for being un-American. His opinion wasn’t unusual among older people, but he was a fairly young guy around 30, he was one of the ‘cool’ teachers. It really surprised me.
Definitely don’t think they deserved to be murder but I would agree that generation was one of Americas worst.
@@adox8574Oh yes, the generation that contained the civil rights movement, trouble makers the lot of them. I'm suspicious of what you may find so objectionable about them.
@@adox8574wait until you see what's in store with Gen z
@@adox8574Definitely.
your teacher was wise beyond his years sounds like.
Thank you very much for this vital piece of history. I was a college student at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio on 04 May 1970. That day left a huge scar on my soul and thousands of other students. For weeks, campuses demonstrated in the streets protesting the war. I was one of them. You did a very good job of what you covered, however, there is much more to the story. Please cover the Vietnam student protests on a nationwide basis from at least 1968 through 1973. I realize that is a lot to ask and may take several videos. These protests literally tore this nation apart. Their story deserves to be heard. Like I said, I was one of the protestors. On our campus on 03 May 1970, we experienced the largest protest I had ever seen there. At 1:30am, the protests turned into a riot, smashing windows, looting, etc. Civil Disobedience is one thing and legal but rioting and looting is quite another. I wanted no part of that so I went home.
It was absolutely awful the way the Vets were treated. Their country called (drafted them) and they went to war only to be spit on and called "Baby Killers" when they came home. Terrible!
Please give my request serious thought and keep up your good work.
@traybern Saigon didn't fall until 1975, and after the troops pulled out in Mar 1973, some 7000 Americans were still there helping the South until then.
Professor Glenn Frank, a true inspiration. He cared so much for his students.
For a man to jump between a crowd and enforcers like that, truly heroic.
They had it coming.
Absolute legend of a man.
@@mattmarzulaGo troll another channel
@@mattmarzula keep taking your L's like a good fascist
It's quite humourous that they considered these protests anti-american even knowing America is built on the grounds of protest
Fascists don't care about reason
how profound
well, America has a lot of humorous dichotomies.
@@RuiLuz I think you mean has a lot of hypocrisy
@@DrRexie say it louder for the people in the back.
I'll never forget that day, ever, no justification, period!!!🙏😢❣️
The guard's excuses sound eerily similar to what rogue police say to justify killing civilians. Some version of "i feared for my life"...
The more things change, the more they stay the same. It's still the same sideshow it always was.
The protesters should have known that in Mur'ca the only right that matters is the right to k others with gs.
Greatest cuntry. "At least I know I'm free." 🤣
Go be a cop in Cleveland or Chicago- I’m sure you would fear for your life tough guy.Go to your liberal arts class and sit in a fetal position.
2 of the 4 who were killed had nothing to do with the protests. One was even an ROTC cadet. And no protestor was within like 70-80 yards of the Guardsmen. So “we feared for our lives” is such BS.
Imagine being a 19 year old who is being pelted with rocks by a screaming mob & you don’t know what to do. Eventually, you’ll most likely fall back on your training (which is to open fire & remove the threat). A similar thing happened during the Boston Massacre
@@dogloversrule8476 but there was no threat, the guardsmen shouldn't have had live ammo or bayonets and they hadn't been trained how to deal with protests.
@@dogloversrule8476 no protesters were within 70 yards of the NG. They were not getting hit with rocks when they opened fired.
So your narrative of them getting pelted with rocks is just false.
Just like cops nowadays.
Their safety is first. F everyone else.
@@dogloversrule8476 they were most likely poorly train and weren't brief on what to do in the situation. And had a very bad commander. Look at the Marines during the Iran Hostage Crisis, they show very good restraint not shooting their weapons at all.
2:20 - Chapter 1 - Background
5:00 - Chapter 2 - Rising tensions
8:05 - Chapter 3 - The massacre
13:40 - Chapter 4 - Why
15:30 - Chapter 5 - Victims of the massacre
17:15 - Chapter 6 - Aftermath
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God forbid people just watch the whole video.
@@brad2751or god forbid people have checkpoints to come back to on repeat views
@@josephcowan651hmmm, it just gets automatically saved to your history?
@@josephcowan651 shots fired.
In 1987, I graduated high school and told my mom I was considering joining the National Guard. She reacted with shock, not to the idea of me joining the military, but specifically to the idea I would join the National Guard. I explained that they were the branch of the military that responded to natural disasters and rescued people, and she replied that they were also the branch that shot Americans. I did not know about Kent State at the time, but in hindsight, Kent State clearly made a lasting impression on my Silent Generation mother, born 1933.
It happened in 1970. Even if it happened a year or two before you were born it's kind of shocking that you weren't aware of it and the way everyone talked about the National Guard afterwards. Maybe that's more an indictment of the US's ability to cover up tragedies though.
So, did you join?
Its a militia. Not a branch of the military. But all militias in the US fall under a main branch of command.
Theres also navy and air national guard too.
@@greenhowie Europeans don't know where Florida is while I can point to any nation of Europe, Asia, Africa, or South America on a map.
It'll be a great day if people would stop spreading propaganda about the US. One incident doesn't make something bad either.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 I wish I didn't know where florida is. The whole world wishes they don't know where florida is.
"Following order" is so comedic to me, especially with how the Nuremberg Trials were still fresh on the American Psyche, how is that a good defense in any case?
Simple, because other than those at Nuremberg it has been seldom used, especialy against the allies.
Simon, plz cover The Bonus March. WWI vets asking for their bonuses when the depression hit.
Oh, yeah. I did not learn about that in school and was quite shocked when I finally learned about it as an adult. It’s easy to forget that riots and protests are not new things. I just recently learned about the 1911 Pennsylvania steel workers strike that turned into a battle while watching “Finding Your Roots”. National Guard had to be called in to stop the bloodshed.
I could hear the song “Ohio” by CSN&Y the whole time I watched this. Well done Simon. I like your videos on serious subjects. You handle them thoughtfully.
Same. I'm going to have to listen to it now.
Yes, good on Neil Young getting this one written and produced so quickly so as to maximize his profit off the tragedy.
@@MrTexasDan actually, he had very strong feelings about this and the war, and he would have liked to take the band in that direction, but the other guys didn’t want to go that way. I don’t know how old you are, but I’m from that generation, and the war was piped into our homes every night along with sports and the weather. My brother was worried sick he’d be sent into the jungle any minute. Our musicians wrote about all the things that were happening at the time. Loggins and Messina had a song called “Same Old Wine” about boys coming home in boxes. They weren’t thinking about the songs being hits-they had something they wanted to say.
@@paulas2218 Let's be realistic about it ... they may have felt strongly about the war, but they weren't exactly being selfless. They did everything they could to market the song, were thrilled with it's popularity, and profited handsomely off of it.
The same goes for the other bands. You may think altruism, but they wrote those songs to strike a nerve in people, to sell records. They lived in mansions and partied hard ... while soldiers were returning in boxes.
@@MrTexasDanYet these songs also inspired future leftists to oppose the military industrial complex which is priceless.
It sounds like by your standards, nobody should be allowed to comment on any current events or write any protest songs.
I knew about this incident, only having forgotten some details over the years, and I must say that while short, this Video covered the subject very well, and from interesting perspectives.
Of course, with Simon, you always know that:
1- A Sensitive Topic will be handled with the proper sensibility and utmost care.
2- The Victims will be the center of attention, will be treated as human beings and shown the respect and dignity they deserve, which is so often lacking in Media.
In the Shadows, as a Channel, always has a very high production value and overall feels more polished than most of Simon's other Channels.
Everything is always on point, and the choice of Subjects to cover is impeccable!
I'd love it if it moved to a longer Format to allow for a more in-depth coverage of the Topics. I know how this precise Format, with a length of 20 minutes or under, appeals to a wider audience and allows for a unique style, so I guess that I'd wish Simon would either alternate between the current Video Length and a longer Format, or a more pragmatic idea would be to launch yet another Channel which would cover the same Type of Content but in its own, longer Format and similar Style!
Any profession where you get handed a gun will attract some number of people who are way too excited for the opportunity to use it.
And all protesters should know that in Mur'ca the only right that matters is the right to k others with gs.
Greatest cuntry. "At least I know I'm free." 🤣
Absolutely, I have a book called, "on killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman he taught psychology at West Point; in the book it states basically that about 2% of any army are already "aggressive psychopaths ", the first man who fired his weapon was probably one of those.
And a chance at becoming a martyr will attract the worst of the worst.
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RIP
Allison Krause
(1951-1970)
Jeffrey Miller
(1950-1970)
Sandra L. Scheuer
(1949-1970)
and
William K. Schroeder
(1950-1970)
This is poignant given all the current protests. Never in my life did I think someone would say some of this with a straight face. Let alone really shutting down student groups. My favorite line currently is "we have a right to exist, now let me tell you why those 'bad' people dont deserve to exist"
JFK: "We will not go to war in Vietnam."
LBJ: "My wife owns the company that makes helicopters for U.S. military(Bell Helicopters), so we're going to war in Vietnam, and we're going to be hevily relying on helicopters. This decision was not influenced by my own personal gain at all."
Nothing has changed
We were already involved in Vietnam when JFK said that.
LBJ had 17 material witnesses killed within 3 years of the JFK assassination. Guy was a demon
@@anna9072 >> No, JFK knew the Vietnamese hated us.
Dont remember Lebron James ever saying that. Interesting nonetheless.
Thank you for this video. I was 10 when this happened and though I heard about it on the news, I didn't understand it. My concerns were more immediate. My father was a professor at the University of Illinois where there were also protests and I know that my parents were very worried that something similar might happen there. I remember going to campus and seeing windows boarded up that had been broken during a night of protests. I was so worried for my father's safety on campus and also about the future. And I think because of that, I never wanted to learn more about the incident later on when I got older. Honestly, when I was 10, I never thought I'd live to be 40 because of the state of the world and now I'm in my 60s. Time doesn't heal the wounds, but it can bring us to a point where we can finally explore them. and it's important we don't forget them.
I was 10 as well
And here we go again..
I was in high school in Australia this happened, haven't forgotten it. For me it's a touchstone in my life, same as john Lennon's murder both forever etched in my memory.
John Lennon was a dear beat who got what he deserved
My family has been in Kent for years. Born and raised there then went to Kent State for college. My grandma was working at the school in 1970, her and all of my older relatives say it was the wildest scenes they’ve ever seen during those few days before and during the shooting. I was attending KSU in 2020 during the 50th anniversary, there was to be a much bigger memorial event but the Vid cancelled those plans.
At times live ammo is issued to National Guard ! I am a Guardsman Retired ! Please do not throw rocks at me !
Remember that time Urban Outfitters (I think) made a “Kent State” sweater that was covered in fake blood splatters?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Companies will do anything for a buck.
Eh. Any protest item that'll get you punched by a bible-thumper is a morally sound product.
Conservafascists being reminded of Kent State is like a Tianamen Square to a commie.
@@JoshSweetvale honestly I’d bet most people under 60 wouldn’t even know what the Kent state massacre was, much less get mad about it. Kinda like how in the mid 90s wearing a marilyn Manson shirt when I was 10 got me followed and preached at yet today if I wore one no one would hardly know who he was or care. When back then after the satanic panic of the 80s people were convinced Manson contributed to columbine. Nowadays young people who know what columbine is are usually psychos on tiktok who talk about how cute those killers were.
What is life lol
@JoshSweetvale that's not a protest item. It's making fun of a massacre
Thank you. ❤ this has so much significance in my life. And current events. Simon, you are one of my favorite presenters. I love those but also love your rambling off tangent ones. Kudos
My dad talking about the Kent State massacre is the first time I remember him crying. It's a lesson I always take time to discuss with my students.
Tricky Dicky lied & was indifferent... I am shocked!
There were serious conflicts between the town and the university even before any of this began.
I was still in high school on May 4, 1970, but later became a professor at Kent State, where I got to know many people who had been there in 1970 and were deeply affected by it. I was at the university for 33 years and so experienced 33 days of remembrance on the anniversaries of the massacre. I'm retired now but still feel melancholic every May 4.
Well 56 years later and who would've guessed? I hope history doesn't repeat with any student deaths.
Just this past Saturday, UCF Football played Kent State and completely crushed them 56-6. They posted a tweet to the schools Twitter/X account with their QB on the phone on the sideline. They captioned the photo, "Somebody call the National Guard".
And here we are 2 days later with the Kent State Massacre piece from Simon.
Coincidence? Or is your story turnaround time just that damn good?
LOL I thought the same thing. “Somebody call the national Guard” is a famous sideline quote from some NFL player, I’m hoping that it was a reference to that 😬
@@jimmyquinn6984 Yes, Shannon Sharpe from 1996. And the only reason I remember is because I read the story this morning in the NYPOST.
You sound quite ridiculous. But y'all are heavy into propaganda.
As an American with high school/college aged kids, this is a shameful event that is truly difficult to think about. I couldn't imagine the pain of those parents. Every time I hear the Crosby Stills Nash & Young song Ohio, even though I love the song, the event it remembers makes me pretty somber
Same. That song always plays on the radio every year on the anniversary, and I think about the event that inspired it.
At Jackson state in Mississippi 11 days later, there were 2 students killed & 12 injured. As far as I know, no one has made a reference to this tragedy in a rock n roll song. Hardly no one even knows about it. I would bet its because Jackson state was a predominantly black college. Both were awful and should be remembered❤❤❤❤
@@ryoung8499must have been justified. Just like Kent State.
What is it like to be so emotionally charged over something you have no connection to?
Hopefully they will make a song honoring Ashley Babbitt.
May 4th had a very different feeling as a Kent state graduate. Anyone who find themselves near Taylor hall, should absolutely take the tour. When I was there, Taylor hall had most of my classes as an architecture student.
So many lies and coverups. I remember how pissed we all were when that happened. The news was so full of lies - fake news isn’t new. My brother who was spared a trip to Viet Nam because he had asthma was such a relief to our family.
I’m old. I lived through those times and believe they truly shaped my whole personality and world view. Now my heart breaks to see how worse things have gotten. I truly fear for our country more than I ever have.
I hate the world we’re leaving our young people. We boomers and the so-called “Greatest Generation” really screwed up.
Don’t even get me started on how so many of my co-baby boomers did a 180 and went yuppie greed is good in the 1980’s. Makes me so sad. And eff Ronald Reagan.
Someone after my own heart. I didn't live through that, but I had older friends growing up who lived through those tumultuous times and they had a large impact on me and who I'd eventually grow up to be. I did grow up under Reagan, though. And I hated (and still hate) that man so much that I still celebrate the anniversary of the day he died every year. It was the only half way decent thing he ever did.
Thanks for being sensible person, even with so much turmoil.
I saw my parents make the change. I always thought "Do all parents do this?" Seeing pictures of them protesting as hippie looking youth. Listening to them talk about how we should have equality, money isn't happiness and to protect the earth as a kid. Never really seeing them much as a teen except to get yelled at for mediocre grades. Then listen to them sneering at homeless people for being lazy druggies as an adult. They told me how they protested and that's cool, but kids these days shouldn't do that, that's selfish, entitled, lazy and they don't know anything about real issues unlike them. They were enlightened when they were kids but kids these days are just sheep looking for attention.
@@seekittycatI had similar.
My parents went from "long haired friends of jesus" hippie Christian types to hardcore crazy over a few years once they got online.
I vividly remember lessons like always help someone in need, never judge another person because that's a sin, always try to be a better person. Stuff like that. Also loads of save the whales/amazon rainforest stuff as well.
Now it's just conspiracy and hate, nothing is real, we should be ready to kill our neighbours because they will do the same, humans have never harmed nature/the climate... It's crazy.
It's a like a total 180 in thier attitude towards other people.
As a kid I was taught to be nice to others, always try to learn as much as possible, to question why things work and to try to help.
These days I'm not sure if they fell for one of the various insane conspiracy rabbit holes or if that old leaded fuel from thier childhood really did have a delayed effect on thier brains.
I will celebrate Biden’s anniversary as well comrade -and the boomer generation coming to an end@@RevShifty
I recently watched an interview with a guy named Gerald Casale. He was at Kent State and good friends with 2 of the people killed. He went on to help form the band Devo and he derived his concept that humanity is devolving from what he witnessed that day. He also mentioned local citizens had been deputies to go shoot down hippies afterward. This seems to have been omitted from accounts.
Other members od Devo were either at Kent State or nearby Akron.
I never realized the band was formed from anger.
I attend kent state, ive grown up in the area, ive met several people who were there and a few that knew one or a few of the victims, the stains this massacre has on the ne ohio are often understated im glad to see that more can learn of it because few care why we (at ksu) get off that day and its so nationally important
Guessing you aren't an English major.
@@thagomizer8485ayo kents a tight knit school you better watch yourself 😂😂
@@seffbones5655 welcome to try
@@thagomizer8485 responding to a joke with an empty threat isn’t the flex you think it is
@@seffbones5655 lol. You do realize that that's EXACTLY what you did... right?
I think one of my favorite episodes so far. Not for the subject matter but the writing and delivery were awesome. Thank you as usual mr. Whistler and team!
This is a level of analysis I've never seen before. Brings back memories from early in high school. Several thoughts:
1. A standard Garand clip holds 8 rounds, instead of the 6 mentioned about 11;30. If the first Guardsman to fire emptied his rifle in the course of the 13 seconds of firing, that doesn't sound like controlled fire. It was panic. A Garand's recoil is substantial (personal experience), so accurate rapid fire is challenging.
2. I later read an article about how poorly trained the Ohio National Guard was, particularly with respect to marksmanship. They had been called in during a riot, and something possessed the unit holding one particular stretch of city street to shoot out the streetlights. The noise from the ensuing fullisade attracted a nearby unit, who thought something major had broken out. It also starting raining 30 caliber projectiles on nearby blocks. To what end?
3. Affixing bayonets for crowd control? Really? Are they going to start bayonetting protesters? Maybe they thought it gave an intimidating "look", but was more likely to inflame tensions.
Thank you for covering this topic Simon
A dear friend of mine was born and raised in Kent. At the time of the shooting, he was in high school and his brother was a student at Kent State (but in the other side of campus at the time). The Kent high school is actually down a hill from the site of the massacre. My friend and some other members of the drama class if the high school were cleaning some long stored equipment in the school parking lot. They heard the shooting while it happened but did not see it.
My friend and his family also lived across the street from the Mayor. For weeks afterward there were armed National Guardsmen on the street corners around their house as it was thought someone might try to kill the mayor. My friend was even almost shot point blank by a guardsman on the street. His mother thought the young men should have some freshly made lemonade and sent my friend to give it to them - my friend approached the guardsman from behind without announcing he was approaching. He ended up with rifle directly in his face. But the guardsman was alert enough to hold his fire.
I'm curious about punishment for the soldiers but being a veteran myself I know all too well how these things are kept strictly in house.
So I read on Wikipedia that the governor got involved and he helped to escalate it. He was put on trial and found guilty. Then it came out that their was Jury tampering so it was declared a mistrial and the prosecutor decided not to try again. The soldiers were deemed immune because they were following orders. All in all nobody was even slapped on the wrist.
@@GrantCelleydisgusting really that they got away with murder.
@@GrantCelley "The soldiers were deemed immune because they were just following orders". Jesus Christ, someone seriously pulled out the Nuremberg Defense and didn't have a "Hans, are ve ze baddies?" moment? That's horrifying.
Those soldiers should have self deleted for killing civs.
@@danielmclellan1522
Not even close to Nuremberg...not even close.
You are obviously clueless.
While in the Army, they drilled into our skulls the importance of this avoidable tragedy. If you're deployed to a national disaster, etc, your duty is to Protect the Citizens, not violate their rights you swore to protect and certainly not to harm them! They are why you exist as Soldiers to begin with.
Thank you for making this video, we as a country cannot forget our history, no matter how horrific and triggering the facts are. Its our duty as Americans to prevent the horrors of history from repeating itself.
I was a teenager when it happened and what it taught me was the terrible danger of a standing army and that on that inevitable day when the government irrevocably becomes the enemy of the citizens, the Army will be its tool.
Please just stand there as the ungrateful kill or badly injure you with their weapons stops the rest of the world having to worry about less of you invading their countries for natural resources.
Growing up in Ohio you were taught this. Now kids have no clue about it.
A video on all the horrible things Henry Kissinger has done is long overdue, the fact that that evil little man still lives wealthy and comfortable is proof that karma doesn't exist.
It's his internal evil that's keeping him alive.
@@ednarsquimby8093 He probably went to China in June to receive a blood transfusion from a Uyghur child to sustain his dark energy for another 100 years
@@ednarsquimby8093And there’s a new film about him along with war criminal Golda Meir
This world is built by the evil for the evil... Why would any sane society ever let anyone who willfully tortures, murders, etc other people back out if they are caught? They want to take care of their own.
Kissinger is such an arrogant jerk. Escalating the Viet Nam war was his reason for living back then.
I did my national history project on the Kent State shootings, I appreciate this video. 🖤
We know the soldiers were all college-aged boys from North Ohio who had avoided Viet Nam service by joining the National Guard. I'm curious if your project discovered how many of the Guardsmen were Kent State alumni or actual students there at the time of the riot?
This was really well produced. And considerate of the victims. Thanks for telling the story.
I have an older friend was there that day. He was a KS student, & involved in many anti-war protests. He still goes to an annual gathering for people who were there.
It changed his life, but he is still a wonderful, caring man, a talented performer/director, and a strong voice against war. Thank you, Bobby for being a wonderful human
I am a Kent State graduate (class of '99). You can't be a KSU student and not get a thorough education on the massacre. Every year the campus still holds a May 4th memorial.
it's another reason to never trust the government. another in a long, extensive, and bloody list.
ANd then that clown Kaitlin Bennett decided it would be cute to troll people by open carrying.
The second-foulest thing she ever did there.
@@arcadiaberger9204Ah. I believe her name is spelled, "Boo-Boo Bennet," after a certain photo of her at a party having an, 'accident.'
@@larrythehedgehog Oh, is there a PHOTO...? I must look for that.
Not because I have any great fondness for or erotic pleasure in scatology, but because I am sick and tired of right wing scum using every trick they can lay hands on to take down pro-democracy people, and I am prepared to fight fire with fire, water, dirt, mud or anything else that's available.
@arcadiaberger9204 nobody cares about whoever you've chosen to become obsessed with lol.
This is your worst work. I ask you 1- what were the National Guard members doing in the weeks before this event? (spending weeks on the highways being shot at during teamster violence against non-union truckers OR vacationing at their respective homes). 2- Play stupid games/Win stupid prizes Or when soldiers point guns at you and tell you to stop what you are doing, this is time to throw rocks and bottles at the same soldiers. 3-FBI? seriously? Their investigations are supposed to be the ROCK OF INTEGRITY? Based on what? This is harsh, I know. I have, very much, enjoyed many of your presentations. But, "Kent State" is more a tutorial on "F**k Around and Fine Out". Even well disciplined soldiers with guns can be pushed too far. And "not Liking" a policy is not a shield against responsibility for your actions.
Well thought out post. I tend to agree.
This was horrible, and it divided people like a knife: people I had thought were sensible thought those kids deserved it for protesting.
That's absolutely victim blaming of the highest caliber. Sometimes the modern progressive movement annoys me, but then events like this are mentioned, and I'm just glad that we now at least have a term to describe, label, and shame such behaviors.
They seem pretty sensible to me.
@@dark2023-1lovesoniI would contend that the victims being blamed are typically the ones defending themselves.
@@mattmarzulaWe get it, you're edgy
@@mattmarzula L fascist take
I listened to a heartbreaking account of Mary Ann Vecchio recently-- the girl photographed by Jeffrey Miller's body. She was 14. FOURTEEN. And she went through hell because of that photo, which was taken and used without her permission.
thing is in a public setting permission isn't required.
Don't expect privacy in a public setting.
How dumb does one need to be to not understand that?
Hey, let's stop using photos of suspects of crimes without their permission. Let's see how well that works.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 Be careful who you call dumb. Why do you think photographers have model releases? A photographer took a photo of a black man wearing a suit walking through Grand Central Station in New York City, and used it to illustrate a New York Times magazine article with a headline of something like, "The black middle class." The man said that the photo caused him embarassment, sued the New York Times and won. The Kent State photo was probably exempt from the need to get permission because it was newsworthy, but the photo of the black man was not.
@@norman_5623 my point still stands.
@@norman_5623 by the way, I have no problem calling anyone dumb. Trump is dumb. Many of the doctors I've dealt with were dumb.
Meanwhile people come to me when they want an intelligent conversation.
My grandfather was one of the firefighters at the ROTC building. My grandmother told me that was the only night she was every concern for his safety and it wasn't due to the fire at the building. It was due to the protesters. Growing up in the area myself and going to Kent State in 03 I can tell you that this event still affects many in the area.
Protesting is a constitutional right. So there is that.
Yes, I do not disagree. However, the protesters on that night were also throwing rocks and cutting the firefighter water lines while they were trying to put out the ROTC building. I am saying the Natioanal Guard is in the right by far, but some of the protesters were committing violence before they even showed up.
America is a bizzaro and quite interesting as I go through it's history. For a country boasting of the best civilization I do not think we kill kids in our little African village
I wonder how many of these guardsmen went on to work for the ATF?
Wonder if any of them became FBI snipers at a certain Ridge... I wonder if Ruby knows?
Every American would do well to consider this incident whenever they dream of what an empowered federal government could give them. Don't dream of the benefits. Dread the consequences.
"Lest We Forget", the mantra we use in Canada to remind us that if we don't continue to talk about what caused ww1, but many of us use to remember instances like this one and many others. Quite often you can overhear people talking about something that was an atrocity and at least one will say "lest we forget". Well atleast in British Columbia you can.
You do realise the trucker convoy was similar to this , so you did forget and let the government walk all over you again .
@@splashpit don't go picking fights for no reason.
@@splashpitthe trucker convoy was a bunch of a neo nazis protesting
It wasn't, nice try though
For all of the factors that led to this tragedy, I think the worst of it boils down to the National Guard being deployed for a task for which they were not selected, trained, or equipped. They were selected, trained, and equipped to fight wars, not to engage in civilian law enforcement.
Civilian law enforcement goes through a careful selection process that includes psychological testing and background checks. They typically receive more training than an infantry soldier. That training includes multiple force options and extensive legal training. Their equipment allows them to use different levels of force.
Civilian law enforcement also has experience dealing with civilians. Despite what television and movies might portray, very little of this experience involves shooting or beating civilians. And, in spite of their relative advantages for their jobs, civilian law enforcement still gets it wrong far more often than we would prefer.
I think we were probably lucky that the number of dead wasn’t far greater. I wouldn’t say that the National Guard itself was the hammer to the students’ nails. I will say that they were given hammers and trained to use them. The outcome should have been expected.
interestingly, almost every time I read about a deployment of National Guard in the news in recent years, it's for some civilian law enforcement / crowd control task in a big city in the US (like for example Washington DC or Atlanta GA) , similar to the events described in the video.
I got the impression that one of their main tasks is to help getting the (own) population under control / off the streets whenever the police needs some robust reinforcement.
@@tobyk.4911 It usually comes down to numbers. Civilian law enforcement gets overwhelmed so the National Guard is called in. Imagine what would happen if the U.S. Army was overwhelmed so they deployed a bunch of civilian law enforcement to the front lines without additional training, firearms, armor, equipment, etc. Cops would perform poorly under those circumstances. There just isn’t enough overlap between the two skill sets.
Civilian law enforcement is notorious for hyper-rage and indiscriminately firing and reloading and firing some more, and lying and covering it up. Routinely going beyond what the military is allowed to do during violent riots in a war zone and walking away free after murder and assault on peaceful non-violent and even cooperative civilians.
I disagree. Both Regular Army (that fought in Viet Nam) and the National Guard go the same Basic Training. But the National Guard is used for civilian emergencies, such as floods, fires, and riots. The Guard is usually called up to serve their state's governor, not the President. They continue to train 2 days a month (so they are called "weekend warriors") and two weeks annually. Their training does not involve how to take a hill and neutralize a machine gun nest, but does include crowd control and duties closer to volunteering and police work.
The national guard is able to be used in place of police for riot control. They were used in the LA riots as well.
I definitely understand your sentiment but it’s still preferable then to have other citizens take on vigilante roles. I think you would see far higher death tolls if angry citizens have to end riots in place of them.
The military follows orders and they will follow those orders even if it's against their own civilians. Don't get it twisted they can and will do it again
There is a reason why the military is trained to do whatever the military wants and needs done,and not what the civilians want and need done lol They've got work orders,like everyone else,and will not hesitate to kill their own neighbors if that's the order given.Humans suck.They don't make any decisions for themselves.
They have. Did people already forget the Trump years?
@@litterbox2010You mean when Trump use federal law enforcement to enforce law and order?
@@litterbox2010what moronic comment.
@@litterbox2010What the hell are you talking about?
They had guns and were "threatened" by students 😒 cowards full stop. It's deplorable that no one was put in prison for murdering those students.
Yeah. That entire unit committed homicide and they, and their commander, should have been tried for it.
@@foo219I’m sure they investigated themselves thoroughly.
@@log7029 "investigated themselves"
Internal investigations are how most cover-ups proceed yes
The governor got a few university buildings named after him. 😵💫
@@georgehh2574 “we’ve investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong”
Authority in America taking no ownership of their actions??? Color me soooooo surprised 🙄
I love that the sponsor is right off rip, I hate when people just interrupt a story to get their bag
Man, it was sounding so much like Simon was going to mention the Jackson State massacre in the "Aftermath" section... but then he didn't.
if they woulda happened first, they woulda got the coverage that Kent did.
don't you DARE try n say it didn't get mentioned cuz of THAT reason you mother fkker
I read that the unit had recently returned from deployment to Vietnam. This is significant because the training is more intense when you are actually fighting a war. This training would lead troops to react to perceived threats before deciding to. It's a muscle memory thing. So something as simple as a balloon popping could be met with troops taking cover and returning fire. This is a good thing when the troops are in an actual battle. Not good for dealing with protesters. It's irresponsible to say the least to deploy people trained for war to keep the peace. My feeling is if you want peace keepers you should train peace keepers. Similarly if you want war fighters you should train war fighters. You shouldn't have one doing the other job. They might have similar weapons and equipment, but the reactions that you want are very different. Soldiers could in theory be trained for both, but any extra time spent figuring out which action is correct can get soldiers dead.
That is not true, none of the units had been in Vietnam. However, they had recently been deployed for a trucker's strike and then were soon deployed again for Kent State. I was an officer on active duty when that all happened. I was a friend of one of the officers directly involved. He never forgave himself and did not understand how it all happened. Tragic for all involved.
Back then you joined the National Guard to AVOID service in Viet Nam. These guys were one step removed from the hippies that fled to Canada. I was in the Regular Army at the time of Kent State. In Basic Training I did spend a little time learning how to control crowds of protesters just in case the Viet Nam war spilled over into the USA.
Not the National Guard, it was a club for draft evaders.
Sounds like you are fantasizing. A balloon pops and troops take cover and return fire? What movie was that in? The National Guard is not trained for war. In 1972 a good part of Basic Training actually was for crowd control, building a phalanx, using your rifle like a baton to push the crown back, chanting in unison. The National Guard that day at Kent State carried M-1 rifles from WWII, the newer M-14 was standard issue in Korea, but by 1972 all the Regular Army carried the M-16. The M-1 was given to those guys only to look formidable, nobody thought they would actually fire them.
That Newsweek cover of Kent State with the girl kneeling in grief over the dead guy is burnt into my mind. They were 100% right to protest that war, we killed and maimed a million over there for absolutely nothing, and people were being drafted. The National Guard were not very well trained or disciplined. Both sides, the Establishment and the anti-Establishment people were very paranoid at the time.
Of course it is burnt into your mind. It was pushed by liberal Baby Boomers. History is written by the victors, and that would be the Left.
It wasn't over nothing, next you will say the Korean war was over nothing.
Throwing rocks at soldiers doesn't really do anything tho. The people making those decisions are in the buildings not in the field.
@@disgaealikerasapOGExactly. Thank you.
@@disgaealikerasapOG throwing rocks escalades things
A rock band group Stills, Crosby, and some other name that i cant remember sang "Ohio" was actually based on the deadly Kent State tragedy. The truth is that group was actually called the Byrds in the 60s. A famous picture of a teenager who kneel down on the side of a body screaming. North Vietnamese soldiers actually showed the video and pictures of tragedy to American POWs.
Thank you for sharing
Was not aware as this happened before I was born
R.I.P to the victims
Not just that they didn't return home, after exercising their first amendment rights, they were shot by their government for doing so.
Attacking armed National Guard with rocks is the stupidest game of chicken the spoiled marxist brats could have done. They weren't shot for exercising their 1st Amendment rights. They were shot for taking rocks to a gunfight.
Ahoy, Thanks for the sensitive video. I am a KSU alumni from the 1980s. I was honored to meet several of the wounded students as well as the parents of one of the murdered students at the May 4th remembrence days. I was also honored to participate in ringing the victory bell. It is sad to think that a few beggar's bullets were met with real ones. It was also sad to see that only 15 years later many of the young students wondered what all the fuss was about even though every student had to have a unit on the massacre as a freshman. I know this event was important so thank you again. daveyb
Every guardsman with a round not accounted for should have been charged with 4 counts of murder and an attempted murder charge for every student at the protest.
Vietnam was seen as a class war, the working-class where drafted but college undergrads at the time were given a 2-S-deferment exemption. Knowing this you can see how soldiers had a bad disdain for college kids.
Except many of the protesters where high schoolers or had just entered
So….what you are saying is that students started the whole mess when they started throwing bottles at the police?
One thing that wasn't mentioned which likely was a contributory factor in the incident is that then (as now) Ohio was a fairly conservative state, and the National Guard back then (as now) tends to attract personnel of a conservative bent. As noted in the introductory comments of this piece, the country was deeply divided over the issue of our nation's growing involvement in Vietnam, and it's not too difficult to imagine a bunch of frustrated Republican guardsmen taking out their anger/frustration on liberal-minded students by unilaterally (e.g. without orders) deciding to fire on them to "teach them a lesson." Not to dissimilar to what we're seeing from the conservative side these days with MAGA-morons parading around with their penis extenders in an effort to stem the tide of cultural, economic, racial, and religious change inexorably turning the USA into something those people refuse to accept.
Someone forgot to take their meds 🤡
It's kind of scary that American troops would fire on their own fellow citizens.
It's kind of scary that a whole group of people are judged based on the actions of a few.
They had thrown Molotovs and bricks at armed troops, kinda scary they had so little understanding of cause and effect
@@huntersearles7753pulled that out from where the sun doesn't shine did you?
Made up a lie all on your own
Anyone who knows anything of the history of the US should not be at all surprised.
@@johnclaybaugh9536government troops should be so judged. They supposedly hold to some standard of training and supposed leadership, don't they? WTF are they for, if not a uniform standard?
Some really dark moments....
I went to Youngstown State about 20 miles from Kent and myself and my friends used to go to Kent to socialize and party because there were many bars to accommodate us. I was told repetitively not to bring up the subject of the shootings but only discuss them when someone there might mention that tragic event. Also, where the students were shot was at that time considered a shrine and people walked around it, I wonder if that is still the case in 2024.
First, I have to laugh at the comments from people who say they never knew anything about this tragedy. “Those who don’t know their history are doomed to repeat it”. Also there’s a song that has probably been played a million times on the radio about this event.
This video is full of biased and inaccurate BS stock footage which clearly shows this intellectual weeny’s communist bias. Kent state was a tragedy that shows what happens when you let real violent Communists invade your country and use uneducated pawns (useful idiots) to spur violent civil unrest. The same thing is happening today.
This guy should be making a video about the present attack on our freedoms and Constitutional rights and the dozens of innocent people being held in solitary confinement and abused in DC prisons for nothing more than being present at the January 6th protest. Especially since it is now proven the whole thing was planned and provoked by the so called authorities and key Capital police blatantly lied under oath. An innocent woman was murdered in cold blood by a guard that was under no threat. Wake up!!
I work at Kent State
Do they have a memorial there?
@@Doug_Dimmadome yes, and not just a memorial. There is a museum, there are memorial events, there are placards around campus with details of particular events and locations, there are guest speakers (including victims), and much more. There is a May 4th remembrance committee that plans and executes all of these things around campus
Hugely respectful look at this horrific episode of American history.
"Someone fired, and we all followed." Is probably the most accurate. I'm not here defend their actions, a service member should have more self-control, but we should bare in mind that the national guard is part time service, and they only drill one weekend a month. They're not really trained to the same level as active duty. I bet one bad apple fired, and everyone else followed before they known what they were doing. Again, doesn't make them innocent, but worth keeping in mind.
I get that they weren't well trained, but if they were civilians (who aren't trained at all) and behaved in such a manner, they would be in jail. Heck, if you're part of a group (say you're all robbing bank), and someone else in that group kills someone, EVERYONE in that group is charged with murder. But in this case, literally nobody is charged with anything????? It's infuriating!
If you're a doctor, and you're negligent and someone is hurt, there are legal repercussions. But if you're a national guardsman, and you straight up murder people, that's ok? Argh this is getting me really riled up, sorry.
I guess in short, what I mean to say is that incompetence is never an adequate defense (and I know you're not saying that it is), except if you're in the military, I guess. 😠
It's called "sympathetic fire" or "contagious shooting."
"Someone fired, so we all fired." Is a bad excuse to justify killing teenagers.
How many channels do you have? It feels like I find a new one every week
This reminds me The Paris bridge massacre of 1961. It is not well known. Make a vid on it Simon.
My dad had told me about this massacre, and it's so scary to know it even happened close to where I live all those years ago.
I'm 34 so it happened well before I was born but it's just so scary that it even happened.
I think the first guard that opened fire just wanted to shoot someone. Like...."how dare you not listen to me!"..kinda thing.
And the kids that burned down the ROTC building the night before and were throwing rocks and bottles were like "how dare you tell me what to do!"
Minor technical issue. The safety on an M1 is in the trigger guard. It's not on the side of the weapon like you showed.
Thats right. Its not a good design by todays standards. I bet the soldier went to put the safety back on but accidently fired his rifle and then other heard that shot and thought they were under fire. This unfortunately has happened many times in crowd confrontation. the "boston massacre" for instance
The Garand also has an 8 round internal magazine, not 6.
This video is full of biased and inaccurate BS stock footage which clearly shows this intellectual weeny’s communist bias. Kent state was a tragedy that shows what happens when you let real violent Communists invade your country and use uneducated pawns to spur violent civil unrest. The same thing is happening today.
This guy should be making a video about the present attack on our freedoms and the dozens of innocent people being held in solitary confinement in DC prisons for nothing but being present at the January 6th protest. Especially since it is now proven the whole thing was provoked by the so called authorities and key Capital police blatantly lied under oath. An innocent woman was murdered in cold blood by a guard that was under no threat. Wake up people!!
@britjohnson1990 that would make sense, except it was explicitly stated that the first to fire dumped his entire magazine. If you somehow misfire into a crowd of unarmed civilians you better say that, not continue firing for the fun of it. I doubt that was any kind of accidental discharge, guns don't shoot 8 rounds on their own
I'm glad no jokes were introduced.
Good old days time to bring it back
Kinda reminds me of the shooting in Ådalen, Sweden.
Workers went out on strike and began protesting.
The military was called in, blocked the workers and suddenly an order was given. "FIRE!"
The military opened fire with rifles and machine guns towards the protesters.
Five killed, five wounded.
The shooting only stopped when one of the protesters from the musical core blew the military signal for "Cease fire!"
The whole event had significant influence in politics and also led to the prohibition of using the military against the country's own people.