FAL Polymer Mag Review (feat. DSA, Moses, ProMag and Thermold Mags)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- The big review of the 4 major polymer magazines for the FAL rifle is in. Evaluted are the following 4 brands: D.S. Arms, Moses Machine Works, Thermold Magazines and ProMag Industries.
Each mag underwent a drop test on concrete and gravel, basic reliability testing (locking into battery, BHO and 3 rounds) and evaluation of the reliability to feed.
D.S. Arms Mag Review 2.0:
• DSA Polymer Mag Revisited
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Thanks for saving me the cost of trying just one Promag.
I was disappointed in the ProMag too. I thought they would fare better
Once the adapters to fit PMAGS into my C93 went away I had to buy Promags. Not sure I trust them.
Thanks for the review. DSA, here I come...
Thanks for the review. I mostly use Moses Mags and surplus magazines I refurbish. The one DSA poly magazine I own has been fine but “feels” cheap. Thanks for saving me the trouble of trying promags.
-Jake
I got 8 metal mags back in the day when they were $5 per mag. Their price today is insane.
Goeie more and thanks for the review. I am a former countryman and think the FN is the best there is. I have one but can't find steel mags so I have been looking at all the other options. Your review saved me from getting garbage.
Thank you for your support. I'll try to do my best to educate you on the mag issue. And yes, it is very tragic that there is no decent alternative to the surplus steel mags. For now...
Great video! I stay away from ProMags, but was seriously considering trying a Thermold seeing how DS Arms rarely have the polymer mags in stock. Just ordered a couple from DSA as they have them in stock, they also have the Moses mags in stock right now, although after this review I'll probably avoid them too.
The Moses mags did okay. I keep using mine with the DSA ones. But good on you for not getting the Thermold!
Long time FAL owner starting back in the 80s and I can tell you to never wast your money on any polymer mags for the FAL, H&K G3 or the Galil. Why would you give up on using mags that have been winning wars for decades for some cheep plastic civilian mag. If you can scrape six mags together just take you time and start hunting for "real" military mags. I have a bunch and have never paid over $7.00 for any of them. I hunt pawn shops, gun shops and gun shows and have good luck finding one or two at a time. The bulk of the public have no idea what an FAL even is, leave alone hunt of mags. Even if you go to a large gun show you're most likely the only person in the building with an FAL.
True that, gun shows are a great way to get some steel FAL mags - even myself have had some luck at shows. Regarding polymer mags: Galil polymer mags made in South Africa are a great option and they work flawlessly
I’d love steel mags, but there are legitimately none being sold online, and all I can find is polymer
I've found the Moses mags are OK. They work for me but I still prefer the actual metal mags. DSA really should be making metal mags themselves in higher number.
Moses mags are decent polymer ones, agree with you on that. I got a few too. Eventually DSA will release some 20rd steel mags. Just hang tight
Sounds like DSA needs to make more metal mags
Wait for it... Sooner than you think
Yeah well there have been issues there too but I think that had mostly to do with out of spec receivers.
@@thefalguy9848 I'm on their list for the ten round steel.
@@m.redleg252 I have not had a single of the five DSA mags work in any of my FAL's all with Imbel receivers, so I know that it's the magazines and certainly not the receivers
@@lioncelica5170 Yeah the guy who owns Arizona Response Systems did a test and almost none of his mags fit his DSA receivers. Ive had to modify my inch mags to fit that POS Century of mine but once a little of the front tab is cut off they work fine. Hit or miss with a lot of FAL stuff.
I have a DSA/FAL medium contour standard length barrel. Have had this rifle for nearly seven years. Initially there were some problems, but everything seems to be fine now. I run six DSA steel 20's, two DSA steel 10's, and four Austrian surplus 20's.. All these work fine. The ten round Thermold feeds, but does not lock the bolt back when empty.
If you ever want to sell some of those steel mags, let a brother know. They’re basically impossible to find
I've also got a couple 30 rd DSA metal mags. They work for me just fine though I rarely use them.
Guess I'm just not even gonna bother with the Thermold mag I was planning to but and try, thanks for making the video.
Great idea for a video that would help me and maybe a few other people out with our builds, but could you give a run down on options for muzzle devices? I'm looking at thread adapters and suppressor ready comps, and I'm coming up short on options and finding torque specs.
I plan on doing a video on muzzle brakes and suppressors as soon as my can gets approved. As for my FAL, I run a JMAC brake on it. Fits the FAL threads and works awesome! And on top of that, it is compatible with different suppressors
Great video as usual...I had bad luck with poly mags...but I haven't try the Moses ones ...
Ps. What comp/Flash. Are you using?
Thanks
Thanks man.
It's a JMAC muzzle brake. I'll do a video on it. So far, I like it a lot, helps reduce the muzzle climb
@@thefalguy9848 I'm interested on it ! I know the j mac crew.
I was at dsa recently they are like 30min from me.
@@eltenda dope 👍🏼
You defenitely held back on the concrete test lol. I do appreciate the video though
Great video bru, I'm just disappointed overall in the poly mags on the market for FALs, they're just not made from a good enough polymer composite/ blend. Wish Magpul would just step it up and make them (I mean, they already make a replacement Stock system for FALs, why not just make a metric and inch pattern?)
I NEED to find more Metal Metric Mags, such a dry hole out there.
The issue with all polymer mags is the thin walls leading up to the feedlips. I doubt Magpul would get it right. And besides, the market is too small for Magpul to make mags...
@@thefalguy9848 I don't see why it would be too small of a market when literally every FAL owner is looking for mags lol, plus they make H&K MP5 mags now, talk about niche... Lol but I see your points.
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary getting a mold made up is incredibly expensive. For a tiny market like FAL owners it definitely wouldn’t be worth magpul’s time, especially since they’re making money hand over fist with magazines for more relevant guns.
@@sonatadusk3304 Yet they make a FAL Stock? And it could be argued that some of their other magazines they make are even more niche, so there's nothing but opportunity for them in the very obvious client demand.
@sonatadusk3304 the FAL style mags aren't just for the FAL. it's for FAL, RDB, and a few other guns that use FAL metric mags. Makes me sad how hard it is to find decent mags.
I have never had good luck with any Promag I have ever bought or used.
The best mags far is the converted SCAR 17s or plain decent surplus.
Or we bug Magpul every year to bring forth their polymer mags.
I need to convert a SCAR mag and see how thay's working in a FAL. However, they are not cheap either. So then I might as well buy steel FAL mags 🤷🏼
How do you convert a SCAR mag? All I could find was making FAL ones work in a SCAR
I’m surprised the thermold broke. Of my 20+ surplus mags I ended up with a single thermold cause it came with my RFB. My pile of fal mags is the primary reason I got an RFB. But that one thermold has served me well for years. Have even dropped it fully loaded on the ground a few times. I wonder if mines just a fluke. Or maybe keltec contracts them to a higher standard. It’s branded keltec, so it definitely comes from a different mold than thermold branded ones. I wonder if all the keltec branded ones are better.
I have not had the chance to shoot Keltec branded Thermold mags but I have yet to hear something positive on the Thermold mags for the FAL.
Hey, man :)
South African here. I know you've mentioned you have a connection to Southern Africa, and I've heard you speaking Afrikaans. Just wondering if you've ever gone into that, or if not, if you ever would?
Thanks for the vid!
Not really on my radar right now. FAL videos are slightly more important than my life and ability to speak Afrikaans...
I bought a promag because it was the only 20 round magazine under 50 bucks. I don’t think they’ll refund me, any way to make them not suck?
No clue how you can fix them. Maybe play with the spring a little bit. If you want cheap polymer mags, go with DSA. They are under $20...
What front rail are you running?
Aimsport MLOK rails
As an AK guy, I could have told you that ProMags are trash 😂
Space age plastic ba
My moses mag cracked on the first accidental drop
Damn, sorry to hear.
None of my DSA mags work, they are the 2nd gen (2021 production). They all cause FTF.
I have ONE magazine that works - a STG58 surplus steel one.
Damn. Did you take them apart? Is the spring too weak? Or are the feedlips not cut properly?
I can second this comment here. The only magazine I currently have that works with my FAL is the mag that came with the gun. I ordered more of the polymer mags from DSA. However, they have a hard time fitting in the rifle and they hardly feed at all. I contacted DSA customer support, but the only remedy I got back was I needed to file down the notch in the back of the magazine to get it to work properly. I tried this remedy, which has allowed the mags to better fit the rifle, however the ftf problem still looms, though not as bad. The feed lips look exactly like the feed lips on the mag that came with the rifle. I feel the mags they make should come out of the factory already fit for their factory rifles. I may also mention that the FAL I purchased is also new, and was made with all DSA parts. The mag that came with the gun also as I mentioned, has no problems whatsoever. The mag that came with the gun was made in 2021 and the mags I purchased after were made in 2022. Upon further investigation I noticed the mag that came with the rifle has marks on the back where someone in the factory filed the notch I mentioned before to fit. I feel that a customer should not have to file down the magazine in order to get it to fit a rifle, that's not what I would call good quality.
Where is a good place to find steel mags in 2023?
Good question... FALfiles, GB and occasionally I stock them in my own webstore.
How is ProMag even still in business? All the reviews I have seen for any model are bad.
Good question - ask me something I know. Maybe a lot of people don't know about their shitty quality and think these mags are top notch... 🤷🏼