See ladies and gentlemen??? Here's how in the past several years, the subsim genre has been going from this true realistic simulator to the typical dumbed-down arcadish game!!!
Most players wont play command:Modern Air /Naval operations its detail and complexity is awesome. But some of these games arent even sims.So you cant say they are dumbed-down.Atlantic fleet is a game from a phone
Ive played and owned so many of those games. Still have them all that I bought over the years. I guess my two favorites are Silent Hunter 2 and 3 and Aces of the Deep. Aces had the first amazing water in it. Bought made me seasick with the rolling waves. So amazing back in the day. Before that in the late 80s I used to rent Silent Service on the NES. What fun days. Love them all. Great memories. Thanks for the vid!!
Lads, it's just a matter of time before they make a VR version of "Silent Hunter 3". Strap on a helmet, turn the game on, your wife shakes her head, rolls her eyes, while you wildly run around the living room, waving your arms, working the rudder controls, the dive planes and the sound gear.
Thing is, operating even a Type II is a team effort. Consider the game "Wolfpack", and align your expectations with that. Crush Depth: U-boat Simulator makes a decent attempt at ultra-realism, although the developers seem to be aiming for a multiplayer experience, with a Type 7C being crewed by up to 16 players. From what I've seen, you'll need 3 people just for comfortably driving the boat on the surface; one guy on the bridge, one helmsman, and one diesel engine operator. For submerged operation, you'll need 4 guys; one at the periscope, one at the helm, at least one planesman, and an electrician. And that's just the bare minimum; you'd need 5 guys to comfortably operate submerged, before even considering stuff like fire control, gunnery, and torpedo reloading and maintenance.
Honestly I hate the idea of single handedly operating a 50+ person Submarine. I wanna be the skipper and have the game recognize me barking orders at my crew in massacred German.
the 688 hunter killer/sub command and dangerous waters trilogy plus the silent hunter 3 and 4 are the more realistic and beautiful even for todays standards subsims. From the older ones I loved seawolf, silent service 2, wolfpack and fast attack!
Dangerous Waters is by far my favourite submarine simulator, the details and realism of the gameplay is just amazing. The more realistic a game is, the more I love it.
if your interested............ i still have some gameplay of SH III on my channel.......... 100% realism except map contact + hardcore fix + some options from SH III commander...................... Anyway SH III + GWX .......... *
One of the very first games I ever played was Sub Battle Simulator by Epyx on my Tandy CoCo3! I spent the equivalent of DAYS on that game! I remember it came on one floppy that was double-sided, something I didn't know was possible at the time since I was only like 8 or 9 years old. It was actually what got me into WW2, especially the Pacific Theatre, which I'm a huge buff of today. (In fact, I'm listening to the audiobook version of 'Retribution' by Max Hastings whenever I drive) Between SBS, Rescue on Fractulus and Koronis Rift, I spent more time playing than doing pretty much anything else. Lots of good memories. (Fun fact, in Sub Battle Simulator for the CoCo3, if you travel to the North or South Pole with your sub and go off the map, you end up in this Twilight Zone-type other dimension where the sub can travel on both water and land, your compass goes nuts and the map just shows tons of little islands all around you for hundreds and hundreds of kilometers plus there's no other ships, radio calls go unanswered back to base and it's always daytime! Eventually you get spit back out onto the map but it's surreal when you're there.) The only game to ever surpass my love for Sub Battle Simulator was Aces of the Pacific in 1992. It was the first 'modern' PC game I ever bought even before I had a computer to actually run it! I didn't care, the manual kept me busy enough, along with my imagination, for the few months until I got an IBM PS/1 486SX/25 for Christmas that year. I was NOT disappointed!
SH3 GWX mod or SH5 Wolves of Steel mod. I playing today with SH5 WoS, in my opnion this game is the best combination of realism/difficulty/graphics. You can decrypt some messages with Enigma, that was very interesting part for me. :D
My dad was a first LT at an ASW base in San Diego. when i was a kid i would go in his office and play red storm rising all the time on his awesome IBM lol
My favourite from the 80's was submarine commander for the comador vic 20 or comador 64, it showed u the ocean floor were you could hide in under water caves or in crevices deep on the ocean floor,. I have not seen any sub games that give u an accurate ocean floor
@@garbageday587 Oh yeah... I played both versions SSI and SSII on the C64. Man I loved those games. When I joined the navy in 89 I even helped some submarine officers with tactics because I started playing sub sims in the early eighties and they knew this thru some friends. Good times. FYI, if you click on my nick you'll see the Commodore 64 colors on my page.
where you found all those games? LOL!!!! now I remember how many times I played GATO, 688 Attack Sub and all the others!! By the way, are not in the list HARPOON and HARPOON II, they were the fathers of CMANO.
GATO got me started on subsim games. Pity that the perfect subsim has not been made yet. Silent Hunter V is the latest I have. It does a good job, but was far from finished when released. Apparently SH V was expected to make a loss for Ubisoft and they just did not want to finish it completely before selling it.
Fighting Steel had subs in it? What about then Great Naval Battles - some of those had sub ops in them also and Steel Ocean also has playable subs in it
Okay sure great GNBA series may be a bit of a stretch, though i have fighting steel and am yet to see any subs in it, let alone simulate. Steel Ocean does are commandable subs in it .
I actually have Silent Service! Didn't realize it was one of the first sub sims. Are you aware of any that are more current that focus on modern submarine warfare where you play as the submarine (as opposed to naval/air operations, which is a strategy game)?
Can't believe they missed 1 from 1997, Silent Hunter: Commander's Edition by SSI (Strategic Simulations, Inc in conjustion wirh AEON Entertainment.... This, came out the year after the release of Silent Hunter 1 did.
We need an updated Silent Hunter 5. Same concept, you can enter and freely move around your ship, but it needs to be finished when its released, unlike SH5 was.
I loves janes only I hated that you had to challange 3 missions to get further if the last on failude you started again on the first.fighting steel was my second
You missed out Submarine Commander for the commodore vic20, and it was brilliant because you could use the ocean floor and under water ravines to hide in
I remember i was at a Toy museum, and there was basiclly a Submarine Game But it was a russian Submarine Game, which had even a Periscope! P.S.: But it wasn't on any OS, it was just wired, but it was cool to see something old.
There was an arcade and sim version which confused a lot of people as they both had the same title! The Sim version was excellent though! Thumb up for gaming knowledge!
Oh how I miss Fighting Steel!!!!!...I have not played it in 12 years, I am so desperate to play it now that I would probably give someone head if they could get it to work on Win 10.
There hasn't really been a real modern sub sim since Dangerous Waters. I wouldn't class Command as a simulator even though it simulates the various systems/sensors better than anything else. Command is it's own genre. It's just a cut down version of what companies like BAE Systems and MoD's use to help determine capability and asset number requirements respectively.
To be fair: The Scenes from "Enigma: Rising Tide" is taken from my old YT-Account and the Gameplay i've uploaded around 11 years ago. /watch?v=VdAYaZ82r1w -> Around 10:05. But okay... i think there isn't much stuff from this game at UA-cam :D I felt like I knew the scenes :D :D :D
The graphics were great, but the game was empty as fuck, it felt like they took a generic sandbox engine and threw submarines and boats in it and called it a video game. No crew. No RPG elements. No planning. Just find blip, intercept blip, sink blip. Repeat. It was a REALLY bad game.
You have no clue. 688i Hunter Killer, SubCommand, Dangerous Waters and Redstorm Raising were great modern nuclear submarine simulators. And Aces of the Deep and Silent Service 2 were great WW2 submarine simulators of their time.
This video is pretty useless considering the very low quality of the videos showcasing specific games. Silent Hunter 4 for example in this video looks worse than Silent Hunter 3 and Silent Hunter 5 is not that much better from the third instalment within the franchise. I like the idea of that video, but the quality of it makes it redundant.
Sigh...the Silent Hunter series needs a more passionate dev team. UbiSoft should stick to the never ending series of crossdressed thugs with fancy wrist blades that kids can't get enough of.
Silent Hunter III, very addicting and realistic game! I remember 2007 and how this game basically dominated all my free time.
Christmas 1988 I got Red Storm Rising, a great game (bloody hell, that was 30 years ago)
I spent hours and hours immersed in Aces of the Deep back in the day - that was an early work of art!
Silent Hunter III and Silent Hunter V (with mods) are the best.
Opinions
See ladies and gentlemen??? Here's how in the past several years, the subsim genre has been going from this true realistic simulator to the typical dumbed-down arcadish game!!!
Not just subsim genre.
Every game is dumbed down. And when you think they can't get any more "streamlined", "easier entry", there is the next entry.
You still can find PC-exclusive hardcore sim games in every genre. Dont look at ports from consoles or multiplatform games.
Happened to all games. Mainly because nowadays players are casual people that enjoy rambo stuff instead of a good old fashioned gameplay challenge.
Most players wont play command:Modern Air /Naval operations its detail and complexity is awesome. But some of these games arent even sims.So you cant say they are dumbed-down.Atlantic fleet is a game from a phone
Yeah - these kids today ;)
Silent Hunter III ❤️
Is it work for win 7?
menawa karabeet yeah it should. Or run it in compatibility mode with Windows XP service pack.
it works...though sometimes I have to reboot a couple of times before it works.
Yes
Ive played and owned so many of those games. Still have them all that I bought over the years. I guess my two favorites are Silent Hunter 2 and 3 and Aces of the Deep. Aces had the first amazing water in it. Bought made me seasick with the rolling waves. So amazing back in the day. Before that in the late 80s I used to rent Silent Service on the NES. What fun days. Love them all. Great memories. Thanks for the vid!!
Lads, it's just a matter of time before they make a VR version of "Silent Hunter 3". Strap on a helmet, turn the game on, your wife shakes her head, rolls her eyes, while you wildly run around the living room, waving your arms, working the rudder controls, the dive planes and the sound gear.
Thing is, operating even a Type II is a team effort. Consider the game "Wolfpack", and align your expectations with that.
Crush Depth: U-boat Simulator makes a decent attempt at ultra-realism, although the developers seem to be aiming for a multiplayer experience, with a Type 7C being crewed by up to 16 players.
From what I've seen, you'll need 3 people just for comfortably driving the boat on the surface; one guy on the bridge, one helmsman, and one diesel engine operator.
For submerged operation, you'll need 4 guys; one at the periscope, one at the helm, at least one planesman, and an electrician.
And that's just the bare minimum; you'd need 5 guys to comfortably operate submerged, before even considering stuff like fire control, gunnery, and torpedo reloading and maintenance.
Honestly I hate the idea of single handedly operating a 50+ person Submarine. I wanna be the skipper and have the game recognize me barking orders at my crew in massacred German.
the 688 hunter killer/sub command and dangerous waters trilogy plus the silent hunter 3 and 4 are the more realistic and beautiful even for todays standards subsims.
From the older ones I loved seawolf, silent service 2, wolfpack and fast attack!
Silent Hunter III with mods, the best sim imo.
Dangerous Waters is by far my favourite submarine simulator, the details and realism of the gameplay is just amazing. The more realistic a game is, the more I love it.
The Naval Gamer try out Command Modern Air Naval Operations. Its a warface simulator, so realistic, a few militarys used it to training her officers.
Good compilation.
I remember playing Gato on my Commodore 128! I'd still be happily playing Up Periscope if the tech never got any better.
Command Aces of the Deep was my first subsim and it was so great! Today i play Silent Hunter 3 with Living Silent Hunter Mod
Thanks for the look back at all those Crumby graphics that we thought back then were So Cool!
*SH III
everything collapsed and turned into console crap after SH3
Birdland 1 yeah kinda agreed, sh III is the best of the serie in my opinion.
SH III + GWX
if your interested............ i still have some gameplay of SH III on my channel..........
100% realism except map contact + hardcore fix + some options from SH III commander......................
Anyway SH III + GWX .......... *
One of the very first games I ever played was Sub Battle Simulator by Epyx on my Tandy CoCo3! I spent the equivalent of DAYS on that game! I remember it came on one floppy that was double-sided, something I didn't know was possible at the time since I was only like 8 or 9 years old. It was actually what got me into WW2, especially the Pacific Theatre, which I'm a huge buff of today. (In fact, I'm listening to the audiobook version of 'Retribution' by Max Hastings whenever I drive) Between SBS, Rescue on Fractulus and Koronis Rift, I spent more time playing than doing pretty much anything else. Lots of good memories. (Fun fact, in Sub Battle Simulator for the CoCo3, if you travel to the North or South Pole with your sub and go off the map, you end up in this Twilight Zone-type other dimension where the sub can travel on both water and land, your compass goes nuts and the map just shows tons of little islands all around you for hundreds and hundreds of kilometers plus there's no other ships, radio calls go unanswered back to base and it's always daytime! Eventually you get spit back out onto the map but it's surreal when you're there.)
The only game to ever surpass my love for Sub Battle Simulator was Aces of the Pacific in 1992. It was the first 'modern' PC game I ever bought even before I had a computer to actually run it! I didn't care, the manual kept me busy enough, along with my imagination, for the few months until I got an IBM PS/1 486SX/25 for Christmas that year. I was NOT disappointed!
Nice compilation of sub sims!
Hadn't played Silent Hunter 3 since like 2008 (and since I was young af, I couldn't remember the name after reinstalling OS)... thank god I found this
SH3 GWX mod or SH5 Wolves of Steel mod. I playing today with SH5 WoS, in my opnion this game is the best combination of realism/difficulty/graphics. You can decrypt some messages with Enigma, that was very interesting part for me. :D
thanks a lot for sharing, it costed for sure lots of time to finish it. very nice memory
great montage, thanks for including footage from my videos!
My dad was a first LT at an ASW base in San Diego. when i was a kid i would go in his office and play red storm rising all the time on his awesome IBM lol
My favourite from the 80's was submarine commander for the comador vic 20 or comador 64, it showed u the ocean floor were you could hide in under water caves or in crevices deep on the ocean floor,. I have not seen any sub games that give u an accurate ocean floor
I loved Red Storm Rising so much!
I loved it too. It was one of my first games.
Thanks for using my footage!
+Guynumber7 Thank you for capturing it. It's really awesome that you and others record game footage of these gems to preserve for us. Salute!
I still play alot of these lol......
I was addicted to the original Silent Service back in the early eighties. Played it constantly.
Same for me Silent Service 2 on Commodore 64 :)
@@garbageday587 Oh yeah... I played both versions SSI and SSII on the C64. Man I loved those games. When I joined the navy in 89 I even helped some submarine officers with tactics because I started playing sub sims in the early eighties and they knew this thru some friends. Good times.
FYI, if you click on my nick you'll see the Commodore 64 colors on my page.
GATO
Still rocking Jane's 688i hunter Killer!
"So it might be a Victor....PHHHRPT" I love FPSchazly
+WolfieRich thank you for making my day :D
Jane's 688 the computer(1997))version was my favorite.
Haven't we come a long way!
Silent Hunter III was the peak, thenceforward the gerne goes downhill.
Like the players of said game
Wow... I remember those graphics.....
Damn, I found that game Aces of the Deep 🦑
#Greywolf was my absolute favorite growing up! Spent hours on it
where you found all those games? LOL!!!! now I remember how many times I played GATO, 688 Attack Sub and all the others!!
By the way, are not in the list HARPOON and HARPOON II, they were the fathers of CMANO.
This ^. Harpoon was a game I spent hundreds of hours playing.
Gato, Wolfpack, SSN-21... Hours of fun :)
One game I had on cartridge for my Atari 800 8-bit computer not on the list - Submarine Commander (Thorn EMI) 1982.
Red storm rising, truly a great strategy Sim.
GATO got me started on subsim games. Pity that the perfect subsim has not been made yet. Silent Hunter V is the latest I have. It does a good job, but was far from finished when released. Apparently SH V was expected to make a loss for Ubisoft and they just did not want to finish it completely before selling it.
Fighting Steel had subs in it? What about then Great Naval Battles - some of those had sub ops in them also
and Steel Ocean also has playable subs in it
Okay sure great GNBA series may be a bit of a stretch, though i have fighting steel and am yet to see any subs in it, let alone simulate. Steel Ocean does are commandable subs in it .
Curious that you didn't include the Harpoon games in this, considering Fleet Command and such are there. :)
I actually have Silent Service! Didn't realize it was one of the first sub sims.
Are you aware of any that are more current that focus on modern submarine warfare where you play as the submarine (as opposed to naval/air operations, which is a strategy game)?
Thing about subsims is they are playable forever! I still play Sid Meier's Silent Service!
Silent hunter 3 for the king of all submarine games
Only for WW2 submarines.
For modern submarines Dangerous Waters the successor of Jane's 688i hunter Killer and Sub Command is king.
Can't believe they missed 1 from 1997, Silent Hunter: Commander's Edition by SSI (Strategic Simulations, Inc in conjustion wirh AEON Entertainment....
This, came out the year after the release of Silent Hunter 1 did.
Yeah but it's basically the same game with a little additional content.
Silent service was my first..lol
We need an updated Silent Hunter 5. Same concept, you can enter and freely move around your ship, but it needs to be finished when its released, unlike SH5 was.
I loves janes only I hated that you had to challange 3 missions to get further if the last on failude you started again on the first.fighting steel was my second
Three FPSChazly clips?
He's the man
You missed out Submarine Commander for the commodore vic20, and it was brilliant because you could use the ocean floor and under water ravines to hide in
hi, thanks for the mention nice video
I remember i was at a Toy museum, and there was basiclly a Submarine Game
But it was a russian Submarine Game, which had even a Periscope!
P.S.: But it wasn't on any OS, it was just wired, but it was cool to see something old.
I loved silent service!
nobody has mention Cold waters a new submarine game from Killerfish games
This was uploaded in 2016...
God, I've played most of these!
You've missed one: *1987 The Hunt for Red October*
There was an arcade and sim version which confused a lot of people as they both had the same title! The Sim version was excellent though! Thumb up for gaming knowledge!
you might want to link the lets players whos content you used, seems a bit shady not to
I can't understand why Ubisoft has killed the Silent Hunter series!
Good video.
Oh how I miss Fighting Steel!!!!!...I have not played it in 12 years, I am so desperate to play it now that I would probably give someone head if they could get it to work on Win 10.
Hey by 14:14 how can I get the Typ 7B ?I have only the Typ 7 A but want the B :(
There hasn't really been a real modern sub sim since Dangerous Waters. I wouldn't class Command as a simulator even though it simulates the various systems/sensors better than anything else. Command is it's own genre. It's just a cut down version of what companies like BAE Systems and MoD's use to help determine capability and asset number requirements respectively.
Can Silent Hunter 3 or 4 still be played Multiplayer? Thank you
You can set up a LAN game. There are ways to do this online I think but you have to coordinate people.
SH5 Wolves of Steel for me. Was a bit hard to get working, you need an altered exe I think.
Sou fã de simuladores de submarinos, pena que eles necessitam de muitas horas livres para jogar.
Good memories.
0:00 good old NavyField music
To be fair:
The Scenes from "Enigma: Rising Tide" is taken from my old YT-Account and the Gameplay i've uploaded around 11 years ago.
/watch?v=VdAYaZ82r1w -> Around 10:05.
But okay... i think there isn't much stuff from this game at UA-cam :D
I felt like I knew the scenes :D :D :D
I think Silent Hunter 5 was a downgrade from 4 in terms of realism and in depth potential.
The graphics were great, but the game was empty as fuck, it felt like they took a generic sandbox engine and threw submarines and boats in it and called it a video game. No crew. No RPG elements. No planning. Just find blip, intercept blip, sink blip. Repeat. It was a REALLY bad game.
I think you missed one it was called submarine commander on the commador Vic 20
Yikes, you're right!
I love crash dive in android
what about Greatest Naval Battles series?
Good one, we included Fighting Steel to rep those titles
Good
where is Harpoon?
+Станислав Ильюшко Ha, good question!
Is there anything remotely like Destroyer Command out there ? NOT "World of Warships".
I had sub hunt on m you c64! 1984
silent hunter 3 and 4 and 5 its goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
ssn-21 seawolf was fun sh*t
Still is...... ;)
an actual sim would let you walk around on your sub IMO
Silent hunter 5, you have full ability to walk about your type VII u-boat and talk to your crew. Check it out
+bleh blah too bad it has so many bugs ;-;
silent hunter 4 with mods please,.....
Basically all crap exept SH3 and 4.
You have no clue.
688i Hunter Killer, SubCommand, Dangerous Waters and Redstorm Raising were great modern nuclear submarine simulators.
And Aces of the Deep and Silent Service 2 were great WW2 submarine simulators of their time.
SH1 was cool
Type VIIc
Virginia
Type 95
i've played wolf pack but its a but confusing.
Agreed. Always had trouble keeping track of which sub or ship I was in.
ATARI hahaha it was for when we were kids!
This video is pretty useless considering the very low quality of the videos showcasing specific games. Silent Hunter 4 for example in this video looks worse than Silent Hunter 3 and Silent Hunter 5 is not that much better from the third instalment within the franchise. I like the idea of that video, but the quality of it makes it redundant.
forgot 1982 Submarine Commander for the Atari homecomputers, shame on you!
Sigh...the Silent Hunter series needs a more passionate dev team. UbiSoft should stick to the never ending series of crossdressed thugs with fancy wrist blades that kids can't get enough of.
GWX Mod.
cold waters
Outside the time period of the video, but it is a good game.
i want my sub with extra ham ... some cheese and if you have some ketchup! thx!
Soooo basically shit got worse over time rather than better. Someone needs to re-create Silent Hunter 3 using the Silent Hunter 5 graphics.
sad to see this genre more becoming a crew management simulator then a submarine game.
hms marulken
гавно, а не ролик.