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Filthy is such a classic “try to sound smart and say a lot without saying anything” kind of guy
When did Destiny change his name to Filthy?
@@anon4854 Thats the real question. been wondering about that for a few days now.
"I can't understand the complexities of what he's saying, therefor what he's saying is drawn out to make himself appear smarter"
2 year old comment but whatever. Hope you see this dunce
@@ischray4089nobody here thanks filthy is the smart one in the room but you. I understand everyone is challenging your worldview but on this one he is objectively wrong
@@pleaseclap5210 wow thanks for responding to a 5mo comment without actually saying anything you fucking goober.
Less of a debate, more of Filthy just saying "Nooooooo! You can't go back in time to prove that! Nooooo!"
Yeah hes a little out there
@@noahcalhoun3964 a little?
Sjw not man enough to state a different opinion from the mass
He’s so dull
@@Cassius4 he is. You, him, and your cult are just brainwashed.
All I got from this is Filthy Robot is a faux intellectual therefore he's correct because he said he is.
sums up about everyone on twitter lmao
I like to call that "Peggy Hill syndrome"
Totally missing his point
@@geoffsaunderson5766 I mean what he is saying isn’t anything important to the topic
literal facts
So cringe, at this point filthy is just disagreeing to disagree
Does he have any base if fans? He must think they like hearing normie liberal takes or he’s just a contrarian (a bad one)
Same with Kyle
@@MilanSmore na champ
Worse guest
@@lightgeiz9617 for me that spot belongs to steve hofstetter
Drunk destiny is kind of annoying.
Filthy needs to let others chime in... his points are lacking and just highly unlikeable
He excell's at being a pain to listen too
He gets stuck on unimportant aspects. Like ranting about how they are just speculating about past gender roles and how they succeed. Obviously they are speculating stfu and chill out
If you can't test it then you go off whats been tested. Everything beyond that is speculative so you should only go off what has happened
Yeah he’s obsessed with metaphors and analogies, getting caught up in his own web of words...
Listening to him speak is like eating a whole head of lettuce. There's a lot of food but not much substance.
It has to be said, Filthy is either the most uninformed guest or avidly likes to be an annoying contrarian about everything.
How does anyone listen to him?
It's him. His personality and I hate it lol
they listen because if they didn't they would be "rude" despite him obviously not knowing anything about what he's talking about, but no one actually believes what he's saying because he doesn't know what he's talking about, he's just spitting the same crap he reads on twitter all day
his contrarian approach is so childish
Nobody listens to him. I try to tune him out when he speaks. Dude is a beta moron.
@@rumpelstiltskin9729 It's big reddit energy
Filthy robot basically : well everything show that I'm wrong but i don't think I'm wrong
The Person With The Green Background Is Using The Politicians Handbook On Saying A Whole Lot Of Nothing At All/
Filthy is one of the few regular guests that I can't stand when they are on. This dude pretends to be smarter than everyone, and looks/talks down to people. He feels so close-minded.
Same I also hate destiny
@@strikingpanther0660 BIG FACTS... you're the guest of the show so act like it. They're stuck in there mindset and think that's the way.
@@chozenkrytic870 I hate how destiny thinks he’s a genius when he talks fast and interrupts
@@strikingpanther0660 Right, trying to look and sound smart but the reality is they're making themselves look stupid. I think its funny how filthy brought stuff up like he knew everything about it then when he starts loosing the argument he says I don't knoe much about it. Yet you just argued like you had a PhD in it
He's woke bro
Everyone else: Multiple valid points.
Filthy: Eye evolution and Facial recognition.
Which would only prove why women were better gatherers. You know how difficult it can be to identify the differences between perennial and annual blue phlox? On stops bleeding, the other will kill you 4 hours. They are virtually identical. Meanwhile its VERY hard to see a deer and think "hmm nooo I think that's a tree. That tiger over there definitely looks like a deer". If women are better at facial recognition now, then theres a VERY high likelyhood it was an adaptation that resulted from them being better at identifying the minute differences between safe foods and medicines, and lethal poisons.
This guy has clearly never heard of Darwinism
you don’t even need to have heard of Darwinism to realize these common sense train of thoughts. He’s just low IQ. which explains why he can’t hold a normal job.
Filthy needs to leave, and not come back.
As wrong some of his points are, it would be a very unbalanced podcast, without him there the closest thing to a counter arguement would be woody taking on devil's advocate
@@jamesosborne4662 no, he sucks and adds zero value.
@@jamesosborne4662 nah literally everyone of their guests is better than him, Even destiny and wings
@@chebungles3303 Wtf is wrong with destiny??? Lmao
@@jamesosborne4662 do you need balance with people who are wrong? I mean, Woody is pretty left leaning and he doesn't seem to agree with filthy on this. I wouldn't call it balance
Filthy seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't notice a forest because he was trying to figure out whether it was an oak or willow tree before him.
Yes 100%
Just smart enough to truly be dumb.
Bloke literally brings up his degree and then makes a fool of himself arguing for the sake of arguing despite all the information clearly refuting his claims wild
It’s weird in America it’s a “societal trend” that those types of people pursue higher education!
His whole point was that since you can’t retroactively test something then you can only have X amount of certainty in that resulting information it is therefore it’s less reliable. It directly refutes the idea that they were saying which are that hunters solely being men was better than anything else. Some other combination could’ve been more optimal but since we can’t test that we can only say that all men being the hunters was efficient ENOUGH (hence the eye evolution comparison) for civilization to persist.
@@crim9089 yeah but he was disagreeing with a small part of the discussion in turn highjacking it, and if these comments are anything you go by, ruining it. He was disagreeing with section 4 of a paper that has 100 sections in it and stopping the conversation entirely until everyone agreed he was right. Even though he didn't put forth a new answer and just said you're wrong. He's the worst type of person to have in a discussion and if he was part of my team in engineering I would try to kick him out since he constantly does this stuff which doesn't generally help the conversation.
@@crim9089 You say "it directly refutes the idea that hunters were solely men" but you actually have no evidence to the contrary. "Refuting" would be demonstrating it's incorrect but realistically if you cant properly test it you cant properly refute it either. All you can do is put forward a different hypothesis.
The theory makes sense because you cannot both hunt and gather effectively at the same time yet we know early man had a diverse diet in that era of human history. Which is why they're referred to as hunter/gatherers. The concept/theory is that men would commit to hunting for high risk high reward (a successful hunt would provide a lot of high value nutrients but wasnt a guarantee) _but_ they couldnt care for children and hunt at the same time. Whereas women could find things like mushrooms, berries, fruits, tubers, etc while also caring for children and not be at risk of traumatic injury/death.
Current studies also suggest when women are highly active it's actually harder to conceive (up to 40% more difficult) and the inherent risks of injury on a hunt would endanger early pregnancies. If women consistently participated in strenuous hunts they would have been less fertile and we likely wouldnt have survived as a species if both men and women hunted together.
And that's not even acknowledging the plethora of advantages men (in general) have over women such as increased bone density, lung capacity, strength, endurance, muscle structures, hand eye coordination, spatial processing, etc. It's _possible_ that if some women showed particular skills and interest in hunting they might become hunters but it's unlikely that was the norm. However it's also possible that we were entrenched in specialized gender roles at that time and women being gatherers and men being hunters was enforced at a group level.
@@crim9089 but we did test it. Millions of times
take a shot everytimr woody raises his eyebrows
Do you want us to die
@@Sleepydill lmao
@Banned4life 1488 yeah im down for that
You’d die by 0:42
Not enough alcohol or liver integrity
That guy is the most irritating person,, cant put into words, watching this actually pissed me off. Never have him on again
filthy is a fake intellectual. repeating information someone else said and not understanding what he is saying
I think he is a good debater, his ability to put together logic is abysmal though. He just disagrees because he wants to feel like he is right and everyone else is wrong. Including the theory of evolution
@@nate8867 Part of being a good debater is the ability to properly articulate your logic. Filthy is a terrible debater.
Taylor hit it spot on. By saying yea we may not be able to do a scientific study and take out all the factors but we recognize patterns and that’s how we as humans have been right so many times before, without doing studies
The friend you talk to eventually but after you talk it leaves you drained of all patience, energy, happiness, compassion, kindness, etc.
Just look at this guys body language when anyone else is talking, you can physically see him seething lmao
This dudes arguement is literally “well, you can’t be absolutely sure”. This guy is literally denying evolution lmao.
I swear this happens every time filthy is one. Remember the COVID argument
4:31 okay? What possible game would there be based on facial recognition? Its a baseline human ability. Babies can recognize faces.
6:30 because men are just generally better at stuff than women.
8:00 good thing nobody is being held back whatsoever in that regard. Why bring it up?
9:35 this guy is an idiot.
12:12 at least he's capable of honesty if not logic.
12:19 thats literally what it means. If every society, everywhere, came to the same conclusion on how to operate in a vacuum completely isolated from one another, hmm....
14:14 how dumb can you be? When you're so blue pulled you reach the answer, but it diesnt conform with your views so you dismiss it instead of reflecting on your beliefs. This is your brain on feminism.
This part of the episode made me think “who cares, move the fuck on” and eventually I just turned off the episode.
I like it when Kyle's screen turns into a Demon Souls loading screen
“You would agree that a tube with more food would be more successful”
“Not necessary but, Ok, I’ll give you that.”
Bro how do you even do that with a straight face?
Filthy robot speaks like wingdings font
Underrated comment
"Did you know the human eye can see more shades of green than any other color?" - Lorne Malvo
This is like saying, 99% of poeple exposed to large amounts of radiation develope cancer, but because 1% didn't, we cant conclude radiation causes cancer.
The eye is extremely more complex than any other physically strong features.
Exactly He Is Right, Women Developed Eyes Because They Are Good At Facial Recognition. While Men Have Horrible Designed Eyes To Hunt...
What’s Certain Here Is No one Knows A Damn Thing.
@@sinbaon2154 I wouldn’t say that men have terrible eyes .
@@jaygin6518 yeah if evolutionarily you had to hunt, it means you had to spot prey hidden everywhere meaning you have to have an even better eye. Woman are probably better at facial recognition because women tend to be more social, however I'd say everyone is decent at facial recognition because if I meet someone, and then 10 years later see them I'll recognize the face, maybe not remember their name or anything about them, but I'll be like "I've seen that person before"
@@pizzasounds3387 interesting fact; becuse of the need to hunt effecting the direction of our evolution, humans can see a lot more shades of green than any other color, making it easier to spot prey in the wilderness.
@@shreknocratus4682 Interesting, I think I also heard somewhere green was one of the first colors human were able to give a name and see, and why in some regions of the world they have separate names for different shades of green.
I respect all the guests but having filthy as a reoccurring is pretty aweful
Whoopin' that commie, good stuff. Kyle - good job sayin' what no one else wants to say. Woody - way to use his own ammo against him, beat him to the punch multiple times. Taylor - killed it keeping the debate structured and professional.
This dude made sense for like 4 seconds and then he goes on about the human eye which basically had no connection to the original argument. He say there and spoke for over 50% of the time yet said nothing
Can anyone else imagine Gunnery Stg. Hartman saying to filthy. "What is your major malfunction." I mean I like people who argue back lol, but at least make a point or give some examples.
Wtf kind of games include face recognizing
Guess who
Among us
Alright alright fair enough lol
Poker lol
@@kickshardlikedonkey that’s body language not facial recognition.
It’s almost as if Filthy is being deliberately counterproductive to the discussion. That seems to be his role in every podcast you have him on. I would avoid bringing him back.
That’s his strategy. Completely derail the conversation by rambling on about nothing to make it seem like you have something to say.
Jesus, filthy is the cut-off king the main cast can’t even get a sentence out shit
I fast forwarded to half way and all I see is filthy's arms flailing lmao
Why do we have to "be careful," about everything nowadays?
because more and more people are becoming "more sensitive" about everything nowadays. And the sensitive people like to cry about something you said 10 years ago and try to cancel you because we do live in a "cancel culture" for most people, except there are some people who literally can't be canceled however just depends.
@@pizzasounds3387 when i translate english comment it make me laugh at USA、it seem like your country have more an more lgbt people、hilarious。
@@18754KRS It's not that we have more and more it's that the media keeps telling everyone that there are so many of them around when there isn't.
@@18754KRS 4% of the country claims to be “lgbt”. They are the vocal minority.
@@ryanbarth863 it seem like your children are lgbt is that counted?i no idea how USA census work。
Filthy spent 5 min arguing for a point he barely seems to agree with.
I know most of you hate this but I was laughing the whole time. Funny as hell
It was an entertaining good mess.
This is your brain on gender theory.
The level of holier-than-thou smugness coming off this guy...
Women can play men sports but men can't play women sports. I don't want a hard working women to lose a sports scholarship because some dude that thinks he is a women destroys the woman in a sport.
Oh hey it's K-Mart Destiny
He even tries to talk like Destiny why does Destiny fans do this
Just look at his facial expression at 22:36. He reacts as if what Taylor said is horseshit. This isn't the only instance, he continually did this though out the clip.
Please please please never have this guy on again for the viewers sake
This robot guy sucks. Woody being way too polite to him
It seems that’s how woody is, He was always nice to wings despite how much of a dick wings was to him, But woodys just a nice guy lol
" omg I'm stupid and losing this debate. Taylor tell me what I'm saying cause tbh I just lost myself in my stupidity"
Filthy is the kind of guy to misinterpret the Dunning Kruger effect and thinks burying his head in the sand puts him ahead of the curve tan others on obvious and trivial matters like this
lol, I know 10 months ago, but that was funny. Dunning/Kruger nihilism
24:41 Kyle imagining playing with filthys internal organs
While I hate these gender debates, this is the first time I heard valid explanation from someone. It seems a lot of people are missing the point - Filthy is suggesting the evolution does not produce the optimal outcome, which is provably wrong (he mentions inferiority of human eye, but vagus nerve is even better example, where you have something just there cos evolution didnt have any incentive to fix it).
Just cos our evolution lead to these ovbious gender differences doesn't mean its the best options for future. Evolution pushes for change. Even tho the current gender-meta was optimal for survival, it clearly is not anymore.
Taylor "pattern recognition" debate takes into account initial conditions and progression that always leads to certain patterns. Which is why a lot of separate cultures and tribes and a lot of evolution lead to same current outcome and gender differences. But we live in a different time, in a very different initial condition, and if you draw a line at that - it is very valid to assume that evolution has not prepared us for this upscale in progress.
One example for filthy could be some different specie - Hyenas for instance, where females are stronger and more aggressive than males (and also have bigger dicks... yes google it). That evolution strand lead to really different outcome.
4:20 for a moment, i thought he was going to suggest the board game "guess who". 😆
I knew I would hate myself for watching another video with filthy robot in it but I did this to myself
What is this guy on about “facial recognition” what does that have to do with sports why even mention that when he disagrees with it saying “but we’re not very focused on that” ?????
This made my blood pressure rise 🤦♀️ it’s denial of looking at history and being able to see the common denominator in why one society was able to surpass another
Worst guest. Had to stop watching halfway through the podcast
Indeed
Tbh idk who he is 😂
The distribution curves of let’s say, “Strength per Unit of Mass,” between XY and XX, will be nothing like the distribution curves of IQ. Filthy’s perspective of physical differences between the two sexes is greatly altered.
he looks exactly like you would expect his opinions to be.
9:07 Bro you can't be doing that when people are talking...
It’s clear Filthy really dosent actually care about other people’s views and that he is eat up with his own views.
Same with Kyle imo
This by far was the gayest PKA segment I've listened to.
Think of it this way, there is a way to breed women to be larger than men in a particular family pool. However, about 99.9% of humans today do not have this particular trait in their family pool. So it brings into question about why this particular example of breeding trait doesn't exist in human society today even though it's plausible.
I wish I saw myself like filthy thinks of himself 🤡💀
Filthys point that evolution is not optimal is correct, it's more akin to to throwing poop at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Love y'all's videos and I love a good debate. The guy in the bottom right corner gets a bit too excited when explaining something but it's ok. We are all different
What kind of games requires facial recognition
Action or casual game🤦♂️🤦♂️
You know someone is reasonable when all comments against them say "uh they're annoying", "they just sound smart without saying anything [insert 0 examples]". Filthy gave great good faith points, problem is, his scientific approach does not land well against baseless statements made confidently. It's like arguing for round earth model, against a flat earther back in the old times, they only see the horizon, so intuitively they say that the earth is flat, saying "it might not be, look at this piece of research" is not as strong as "dude use your eyes".
Nah he’s annoying af and has no actual points. He agrees just to take the intellectual high ground.
This
watching a broke college educated man trying to argue with 3 millionaires is interesting
Can we never have Filthy as a guess, he's one of the worst ones
Second time watching this and I still don't know what filthy is defending lmao
Filthy is a perfect example of someone who talks a lot but says absolutely nothing.
You can say all these things are societal but when all these cultures have arrived at the same point independently of each other over thousands of years, you can confidently say these gender roles are there for good reason.
Filthy is the worst recurring guest pka has
Also tbh filthy is way underplaying sexual dimorphism. There really just isnt a sport women are better at. And the difference is drastic even things like racing
5:00 😁Hey comment section....Is Dirty Destiny _really that disingenuous and unlikable?_
I'm only at 5 minutes here, but he _SEEMS reasonable_ so far, but I've seen the comments below...
He says women should be great at board games like Guess Who. I agree!
8:15 Same deal...reasonable opinions on opportunity.
9:03 _HERE IT IS!_
😮 You can actually see the moment he starts taking the conversation too personally...He starts getting Jittery AF. Look at that expression. 😄
In the end, it turned out that they were just disagreeing about the extent to which they agree with each other.
I got all hyped for a real argument too. 😮💨
"In every historical society, the women stayed home and the men warred"
The viking and amazonian women and children in the corner : "are we a joke to you?"
And those societies turned out real neato lol
I'm pretty sure there's no concrete evidence of Viking female warriors existing. Yeah they're mentioned in sagas but that's basically our equivalent of Wonder Woman.
Humans don’t have an evolutionary need to have perfect eyes. Eagles and hawks hunt very small prey from the air and would be extinct without them. I agree with Kyle.
With Lions, the women go hunt and the men stay with the children
Because the men have to fight other lions.
Calling lions men and women made me lol
Filthy Robot is great at not making a point and loving the sound of his prissy little voice. He's great at that.
He used the ol "drag em down to my level and beat em with experience" idiot strategy.
This is frustrating to watch as someone with a science background. I agree with what PKA are saying, and they are most likely correct (in my opinion they are correct,) but Filthy is coming at it from an academic/science viewpoint that just because something was one way does not mean you can assume it was due to X reason even if it seems obvious without testing your hypothesis.
Obviously in this hunter gatherer situation, to me it is quite obvious that men hunt because they’re bigger, faster, stronger, they stand a better chance at actually chasing something down. Simultaneously if the men have pregnant women back in the village it doesn’t make sense for her to chase down a boar. Even once given birth she still has to breast feed, hence makes sense for her to say behind. Even once done breast feeding now you’re probably the better caretaker of the children because you’ve been doing most of the work. Hence the pattern continues.
Regardless I think he’s trying to be to technical for a podcast like PKA, he’s trying to hard for something that’s not supposed to be super deep.
You actually conceded the entire debate in your comment. Men are bigger, faster, and stronger than women, that's why it's unfair to let them compete in women's sports. That's the argument that Kyle, Woody, and Taylor were making. Filthy is genuinely not intelligent enough to have figured this out because he's over intellectualizing that point.
@@The_ScapeGoat I made no mention of sports in my comment lol. I was talking about the tribal bit.
Regardless, in sports I agree men shouldn’t be allowed to play with women, especially if they’ve go through puberty already.
The kid from kindergarten cop said it first and faster.
Is it just me or does filthy contradict himself multiple times while trying use his Twitter argument
the longer it takes you too explain a simple concept. the less you understand it.
insert filthy.
he think they dont understand but he dont understand
I say let it happen, it'll make sports more interesting.
This guy keeps bringing up the eye, but I don't think he's making the point he thinks he is.
This guy is a prime example of why I can't stand leftists
This turned into the filthy show.
Someone once took a poll on Police Officers and Fireman and everyone wanted to know why most were Irish, polish and white.. and how black people didn’t want to be firemen it turns out it’s a very “tradition job”
Meaning most People didn’t want these jobs.. But for Irish people and polish people it was the only job they could get.. because they were immigrants.. and they passed that tradition down to there grandchildren..
As for black people being firemen... Maybe they just don’t want the job.. it’s quite possible some people by culture or ethnicity are not driven to specific jobs just cause..
How often does robot get pegged?
Don't knock it til you try it bro
Why is filthy so stressed on this when he knows nothing about the past or present tests or history
I identify as Patrick from SpongeBob 😂
Correlation cannot indicate causation on its own.
However, if there is an causal explanation + something universal to a species = it is the most likely cause.
Filthy just smothers the conversation. Gotta let other people talk too bud.
Nah literally every person here was agreeing but pka was really hung up on the literal idea of males as hunters and completely missed the point this guy was trying to make. Everyone(except maybe Kyle) is right about what they're saying and Filthy's original point is actually pretty important. The problem is the hunter analogy, where the biological difference being cause for societal difference is really obvious, and so its a terrible one to compare to something like chess where the nuance of where skill comes from is way less understood. you could still argue and I would probably agree that there are inherent biological advantages for men, but unlike with running or lifting, you can't so easily say oh it looks to be the case so it must be true. You need evidence that proves cause and effect. Correlation does not equal causation is what filthy is doing a bad job of saying. Then Kyle is just blatantly claiming biology is 100% responsible for all societal differences which is fucking ridiculous and he's just accepting that everything he says is undeniably true. And Taylor is the only one to actually touch on the both filthy's actual argument and also the main probable reason that males were the predominant hunters/people in danger etc. Women control the size of your population. one man can impregnate 30 women at once but 30 men cant all have babies with the same woman at the same time. The whole argument was completely pointless and while I 100% like the pka guys more, they just all jumped down his throat when he tried to pitch a hypothetical before he could even get to the point he was trying to make, causing him to derail and lose the plot. His big mistake was using the hunter/gather analogy and then getting really flustered when having to play defense.
"Would you say that the tribe with the most food is being successful" -Kyle
"I guess under certain circumstances I would agree." - Filthy
I can't stand this guy
@n30n the point is that all things being equal, the trice with more food will be more successful. People like Filthy (and apparently you) seem to think that they know so much more and consider so much more than the person that they're talking to that they look past the extremely obvious unspoken points to expand the boundaries of the hypothetical to include all things that are not logically impossible. He unnecessarily multiplies the complexity of what they're talking about. People who are too intellectual tend to be extraordinarily impractical which is why Filthy comes across as a moron even though he's obviously intelligent.