Me when I was 7: carefuly positioning each unit in line, scouting the whole map for the best path, keeping Cho'Gall at the start so he doesnt even get damaged. Stu: Gotta go fast!
"Yeah, I hired this new commander to lead my forces to glorious victory but he just shouted 'FOR THE ECONOMY' and murdered half my soldiers in order to get more workers."
In the Tomb of Sargeras mission I kept getting steamrolled, so I left one catapult near the shore and let the game run overnight. They spent every gold they had on ships that my one guy sank. You may have the world's fastest run, but I currently hold the record for World's Slowest.
I lost that map several times. In the end I had a similar experience of running them dry. Firstly I only barely survived the start because my turrets and troops were all destroyed in a raid. Luckily the Alliance wrecking my base grouped up and I got them with my last Goblin Sappers. I couldn't crack their main base though. And I was out of money. So I parked a few Death Knights on the southern tip of the island. And I then used a fast unit to bait a few things out from the base, into the Death Knight murder trap. Then I went back and baited a few more. I must have done it 50 times, until I ran them out of units and money. Then I took my small and crappy army and cleaned them out. Definitely one of my most memorable gaming experiences.
The first time I played the game, I gave up on the campaign at The Tomb of Sargeras because no matter what I did I seemed to be unable to match the relentlessness of the AI. When I returned to the game years later I remember feeling a sense of growing dread for each Horde mission I completed, as I got closer and closer to that one mission I had been unable to beat. Turned out I didn't really have anything to worry about; apparently the one thing I hadn't tried was simply making landfall on the main island. It may seem tempting to bombard the base from the sea, but doing so opens you to a war of attrition against the AI, and the main base is not actually that heavily defended, it's just very big. So, huh.
I can feel that. My strategy in almost all wc2 missions was to max defence and capture mines. Then wait AI run out of resources attacking me, then I mass build most op units atm, like air or mages...
In this campaign, a naval maneuver genius leads the Horde to a blitzkrieg victory against the scattered and disorganized Alliance forces, proving the value of economy-based warfare. And speedy boats. Many speedy boats.
19:33 Stu: "I have some questions for the person who designed the mission Me after looking the speedrun: I have some questions for the team who designed the whole campaign 🤣
This is not only the game, whenever see your video I remind myself "do something quickly and effectively without any resting and hesitate" that make our lives better in no times
@@Magban724 I got into RTS in '97 with C&C and Red Alert, but wouldn't have discovered it if it weren't for boomer shooters getting me into PC gaming. :P I'm mostly a C&C guy though, I love Warcraft and Starcraft but Blizzard RTS games are too micro-y for my monke brain to handle
@@S20TBL It's a funny parallel then cause, well - 97' or 98', I don't even remember exactly cause I was a wee lad back then, was when we had our first PC here, and guess what - Doom and C&C TD were my first and all-time favorites ever since. I have to agree, cause I suffer from the exact same, hah. Warcrafts are close to my heart too, but C&C is just... Less taxing~
@@Magban724 And thanks to that we now have your amazing Doom mods. :D Personally happy that folks like Stu are keeping the RTS scene alive as well, hopefully it makes a comeback like boomer shooters have done
@@S20TBL Or your super shitposty drawings, which are also amazing, btw. Yeah, I also tend to watch OpenRA shoutcasts - it's good to remind yourself this stuff is sure nurtured and loved. Seeing stuff like Tempest Rising or DORF, I think our wish might come true sooner than later, ha. I hope for that too, fingers crossed!
That destroyer micro in Khaz Modan is something else. Taking down the entire Alliance navy with two boats? Even to this day I can't do much without totally outnumbering the enemy on sea. 41:30 I was today years old when I learned goblin sappers have a non-exploding attack!
Theres is nothing more I want than this style of Warcraft game remade to current warcraft times! Example, adding undead and elves like in 3 but continuing with Naga, demons, and whatever else i've missed.
My guy, I have no clue where you came from but every time I see one of your videos now I have to watch it. I think it's because I grew up playing Warcraft two When I hear that noise/music it triggers something like a Pavlovian response in me and I revert back to a child like stage where the world was simple innocent 😂
It's called Nostalgia, it's a wonderful feeling that we can share. Many people feel that nostalgia is a bad thing, but sometimes, just sometimes, it feels good to indulge in our nostalgia's rose-tinted glasses and boot up an old game we used to love. Do the games live up to modern times? No, but we love them anyways
I am a speedrunning and War2 is still one of my favourite games of all time. For some reason I have NEVER considered speedrunning it. This looks SUPER fun. Gonna have to look into it.
I loved the build a shipyard and a fortress on the island mission. "You said to build a shipyard and a fortress on the island. You said nothing about -clearing the island-." It's almost like malicious compliance.
Say what??? I would have never NEVER believed it was possible, back in the day. And even now with all the guides available, it takes me hours to finish 1 map.
I remember these missions, I was always playing super defensively. Usually until all my or enemy gold mines empty, with lots of tower and trolls behind them
This is very cool thanks. I played this as teenager and I've been looking for an explained, subtitled speed run for a long long long time. Much appreciated and very well done! Liked and subscribed
Mm, I usually tell my friends, that it is a nice chill game from my childhood, that you can come and complete a campaign in one evening. This, on the other hand, is on the next level.
This channel alone has driven me to replay the old games so much more frequently. Kind of wish I could go back with WC3, but at this point I'm not installing the 20g bloated version and my disks are in a different State right now =/
I am actually proud I managed to beat both campaigns. My go to tactics was mostly stalling, using ogre magi to rune enemy paladins and kill the rest with death coil since it heals, netting me good number of gold and saving many units. For pushing it war bloodlust everyone and roll. For naval abusing destroyers speed dodging enemy battleship fire was great for early crippling of the enemy since once their fleet was gone I used juggernauts that survived from my starting force to drain their peasants or just build a fleet of 9+ juggs and kill everything in range Cuz orcs have no healing other than deathkingts themselves I avoided large dragon forces
I really love the Little Info Boxes explaining why you do some non self explanatory stuff. Also:VI. The Badlands seems to be the Same mission design as the Last Mission in WC3 Where Thrall can just walk to pick up Grom and Walk back 🤣
44:14 - "The enemy ballista doesn't fire because it is afraid of damaging its own buildings" Siege Tanks : "Haha supply depot between me and zerglings goes *BOOM!"*
I remember playing the Classic one for DOS, and I moved the ships as well in time to avoid the cannons. However, it would just reduce the damage not negate it. It might have been changed, or I could just have it wrong. Still a really cool post. Thank you.
When I was younger, I thought those axe throwing guys were just making that noise with their mouth every time they attacked. I thought that for years, I just accepted it.
"escorting" Cho'gall feels like a mission design that shows up in every RTS game. The level designer has this grand design and completely overlooks that they gave the player all of the tools to beat the level instantly. I think my favourite version is either the Protoss mission where you can win at the start because you have all the required units and Tassadar can cast hallucination a whole bunch, or the Brood War mission where you can defeat Aldaris because you have two fully upgraded and max energy Dark Archons from the word go
I'm actually going to play devil's advocate and defend the mission design. The map is unexplored, and if you're playing it for the first time then you don't even know exactly where your destination is (just a rough direction) and you have no idea where enemy ambushes lie in wait. Running ahead with Cho'gall would be an absolutely stupid strategy if you didn't have perfect knowledge of the mission layout. This "exploit" is not the design issue it appears, because the mission was always going to be trivial for someone who already knows the way anyways.
@@drosberg3680 I do not disagree but at the same time it seems that in Blizzard games the missions are still designed to be played a certain way, hence Stu's comment about the level. If you look at a series like Command and Conquer you have similar missions that can be beat instantly once you know the correct way to go but those missions feel like they were tightly designed so there is only one correct way (and it still requires a whole lot of skill to do them at speedrun speeds). The only mission I can think of in the whole C&C series that has a similar "oh...so you can cheese this mission instead doing it the way we designed it" is the truck escort mission in Red Alert, and even then RNG can be your downfall if the bridge gets destroyed.
15:01 this pig sound is like the Wilhelm Scream of animals noises (at least, pig noises, anyway). Whenever a show/movie takes place on a farm and pigs are around, there is a good chance you'll hear it.
I played this so much, 25-ish years ago... I always loved WarCraft2, Settlers and later Populous the Beginning to just build small towns and settlements. And I am not so good at RTS games, so I feel WarCraft 2 is easier than Red Alert and those other where you really must rush everything and play "correctly" to win, I like to take my time.. Build a nice base and playing all too defensive against the Computer.. Would love a remaster or something along those lines, and to be able to play on console on my television. I did play WarCraft 2 on PSX a couple years ago, and it plays pretty good, never finished it on PSX though, but fun on the big television!
40:11 - 46:59, The DAD Rise as Quel'thalas Falls, hmmm Dad must be really amazing to make Quel'thalas fall, hahaha. Amazing runs though, my style of play just does not fit with speedruns so seeing all this was very neat.
Hahahaha, you make it look so easy. And I too learned from you, with the BtDP missions. Especially the last one with the Orcs. Now a speedrun with the humans?
![1 Orc vs 7 Computers [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7BWNchvzG1Y/mqdefault.jpg)
19:14
Allright warriors, you heard the chieftain! We need to escort Cho'gall. No matter wh... where is he?
Me when I was 7: carefuly positioning each unit in line, scouting the whole map for the best path, keeping Cho'Gall at the start so he doesnt even get damaged.
Stu: Gotta go fast!
"Yeah, I hired this new commander to lead my forces to glorious victory but he just shouted 'FOR THE ECONOMY' and murdered half my soldiers in order to get more workers."
Bernie da Orc
🤣🤣🤣
But he did get results
"Hey, relax, remember we're the Horde, whoever is not an slave probably will be sacrificed anyway..."
As Napoleon said: to invade lordaeron you need three thIngs: peons, peons, peons
In the Tomb of Sargeras mission I kept getting steamrolled, so I left one catapult near the shore and let the game run overnight. They spent every gold they had on ships that my one guy sank.
You may have the world's fastest run, but I currently hold the record for World's Slowest.
If only that catapult could mine Bitcoins through kills...
I lost that map several times. In the end I had a similar experience of running them dry.
Firstly I only barely survived the start because my turrets and troops were all destroyed in a raid. Luckily the Alliance wrecking my base grouped up and I got them with my last Goblin Sappers.
I couldn't crack their main base though. And I was out of money. So I parked a few Death Knights on the southern tip of the island. And I then used a fast unit to bait a few things out from the base, into the Death Knight murder trap. Then I went back and baited a few more.
I must have done it 50 times, until I ran them out of units and money. Then I took my small and crappy army and cleaned them out.
Definitely one of my most memorable gaming experiences.
Thats sounds like my wedding night.
The first time I played the game, I gave up on the campaign at The Tomb of Sargeras because no matter what I did I seemed to be unable to match the relentlessness of the AI. When I returned to the game years later I remember feeling a sense of growing dread for each Horde mission I completed, as I got closer and closer to that one mission I had been unable to beat.
Turned out I didn't really have anything to worry about; apparently the one thing I hadn't tried was simply making landfall on the main island. It may seem tempting to bombard the base from the sea, but doing so opens you to a war of attrition against the AI, and the main base is not actually that heavily defended, it's just very big.
So, huh.
I can feel that. My strategy in almost all wc2 missions was to max defence and capture mines. Then wait AI run out of resources attacking me, then I mass build most op units atm, like air or mages...
In this campaign, a naval maneuver genius leads the Horde to a blitzkrieg victory against the scattered and disorganized Alliance forces, proving the value of economy-based warfare. And speedy boats. Many speedy boats.
"You see, the secret to beat kill bots is that they have a kill limit.
You just have to reach it"
~ A space warfare captain genius
Love all the extra info on screen to explain why you take certain actions.
Another incredible run, Stu!
19:33
Stu: "I have some questions for the person who designed the mission
Me after looking the speedrun: I have some questions for the team who designed the whole campaign 🤣
You after trying to do your own speedrun: well, i haven't got any questions...
Thank you for continuously playing this game
Brings back nostalgia😅
15:35 you’re the captain you’re the captain you’re the captain you’re the captain you’re the captain
arg?
The canon dodging blew my mind, I have not played this game in decades. Great video with welcomed commentary.
2:20 Zuljiin coldly leaving his Orc liberators behind to die. 💀
These are awesome. 🌟
It is incredible how goof this game looks after 20 something years both visually and audio.
Great gameplay too!
This is not only the game, whenever see your video I remind myself "do something quickly and effectively without any resting and hesitate" that make our lives better in no times
10:02 that grint queue up while simoutaneously dodging a cannon attack was so insane!
I played this game as a kid. What you did here is fantastic. Greate APM, builds and map remember.
It may have been out of character for an Alliance run, but killing their own troops to free up the supply chain fits Horde so well
Didn't think I'd run into you here, hah. RTS afficionado as well, at least to an extent?
@@Magban724 I got into RTS in '97 with C&C and Red Alert, but wouldn't have discovered it if it weren't for boomer shooters getting me into PC gaming. :P
I'm mostly a C&C guy though, I love Warcraft and Starcraft but Blizzard RTS games are too micro-y for my monke brain to handle
@@S20TBL It's a funny parallel then cause, well - 97' or 98', I don't even remember exactly cause I was a wee lad back then, was when we had our first PC here, and guess what - Doom and C&C TD were my first and all-time favorites ever since.
I have to agree, cause I suffer from the exact same, hah. Warcrafts are close to my heart too, but C&C is just... Less taxing~
@@Magban724 And thanks to that we now have your amazing Doom mods. :D
Personally happy that folks like Stu are keeping the RTS scene alive as well, hopefully it makes a comeback like boomer shooters have done
@@S20TBL Or your super shitposty drawings, which are also amazing, btw.
Yeah, I also tend to watch OpenRA shoutcasts - it's good to remind yourself this stuff is sure nurtured and loved. Seeing stuff like Tempest Rising or DORF, I think our wish might come true sooner than later, ha. I hope for that too, fingers crossed!
24:24 Making the ballista hit one of their peasants is just speedrunning perfection
That destroyer micro in Khaz Modan is something else. Taking down the entire Alliance navy with two boats? Even to this day I can't do much without totally outnumbering the enemy on sea.
41:30 I was today years old when I learned goblin sappers have a non-exploding attack!
Theres is nothing more I want than this style of Warcraft game remade to current warcraft times! Example, adding undead and elves like in 3 but continuing with Naga, demons, and whatever else i've missed.
nice new strategies, good to see this game is still seeing love ever since the speedruns a couple years ago
I can't believe those Peons absolutely jumped that High Elf like that @ 1:38
My guy, I have no clue where you came from but every time I see one of your videos now I have to watch it. I think it's because I grew up playing Warcraft two
When I hear that noise/music it triggers something like a Pavlovian response in me and I revert back to a child like stage where the world was simple innocent 😂
It's called Nostalgia, it's a wonderful feeling that we can share. Many people feel that nostalgia is a bad thing, but sometimes, just sometimes, it feels good to indulge in our nostalgia's rose-tinted glasses and boot up an old game we used to love. Do the games live up to modern times? No, but we love them anyways
What an incredible run, on max speed! Very awesome!!
really cool video! I greatly appreciate the added commentary and the little comedic flairs whenever you got some downtime.
I remember these missions so well and I still love the cast of characters. It's such a shame Blizzard never went anywhere with this.
You mean except the last 15 years of world of warcraft and books?
@@Twistedstar0320 Are you thinking of Starcraft?
@@johnnymittle no
Agreed, this game needed a sequel.
@@stefersondigiorgio you mean like warcraft 3? Lol
I am a speedrunning and War2 is still one of my favourite games of all time. For some reason I have NEVER considered speedrunning it. This looks SUPER fun. Gonna have to look into it.
Fun to see this. I used to play this for hours with my brother when it came out - decades ago. Great game!
the hints and tips comments explaining concurrent techniques being used, is the best part IMO
i would major in warcraft if schools allowed it.
I loved the build a shipyard and a fortress on the island mission.
"You said to build a shipyard and a fortress on the island. You said nothing about -clearing the island-."
It's almost like malicious compliance.
I appriciate all this small informationboxes.
I know that even this takes much time to do.
One of the more impressive video game things i have seen
Say what??? I would have never NEVER believed it was possible, back in the day. And even now with all the guides available, it takes me hours to finish 1 map.
That’s such a blistering fast pace.
Insanity !
I remember these missions, I was always playing super defensively. Usually until all my or enemy gold mines empty, with lots of tower and trolls behind them
lol the paladin at 1:13:10 seeing all the peons start attacking each other "I gotta get in on this!"
прекрасное видео с репликами всех юнитов и выходом в экономику. на 40 минуте занятие базы - супер. жду выхода новых.
This is very cool thanks. I played this as teenager and I've been looking for an explained, subtitled speed run for a long long long time. Much appreciated and very well done! Liked and subscribed
Yea… this hit me right in the feels. Growing up My brother and I took turns beating this game. Cheers, great run!
Mission 8 was a shocker for me :O Absolutely badass gameplay!
Can't wait for Legacy of the Void speedrun
Nice insights: confused or unwilling ballistas and the navy tricks are awesome!
The Siege of Dalaran I never could master when very young, nice to see how it looks completed.
Just found this speedrun ... it's amazing to watch - and oddly relaxing!
Mm, I usually tell my friends, that it is a nice chill game from my childhood, that you can come and complete a campaign in one evening. This, on the other hand, is on the next level.
Wow! Spectacular speedrun and I suppose that's a world record :P
Narrator do be like:
Da Horde
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The townshi
Doomha
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42:00 - They can fight! Wow! Just never thought about it.
man, the music in this game is so awesome. i kinda forgot just how much.
Awesome work man I spent many hours playing these missions and you make it look so easy
Back in the day , when Azeroth was just a nation and not an entire world...
My first pc game ever !
Quite impressive. I like the Orc Campaign ending scene. 🔥🔥🐉🐉🐲🐲🐉🐉🔥🔥
This channel alone has driven me to replay the old games so much more frequently. Kind of wish I could go back with WC3, but at this point I'm not installing the 20g bloated version and my disks are in a different State right now =/
看完你的SLG遊戲視頻，你比我還 熱愛 這遊戲！！感謝您驚人的的遊戲演式！終於了解我自己遊玩這遊戲時候 格局 實在太限制想像了...😂😂😂
Well played, you make it looks so easy. I didn't know some of those missions were possible to do so quick
The act of sacrificing your own units for the economy seems very fitting for the orc side.
I am actually proud I managed to beat both campaigns. My go to tactics was mostly stalling, using ogre magi to rune enemy paladins and kill the rest with death coil since it heals, netting me good number of gold and saving many units. For pushing it war bloodlust everyone and roll.
For naval abusing destroyers speed dodging enemy battleship fire was great for early crippling of the enemy since once their fleet was gone I used juggernauts that survived from my starting force to drain their peasants or just build a fleet of 9+ juggs and kill everything in range
Cuz orcs have no healing other than deathkingts themselves I avoided large dragon forces
"I have some questions for who ever designed this map" that comment made my day 😂😂
Thanks for the trip down memorylane.
I really love the Little Info Boxes explaining why you do some non self explanatory stuff.
Also:VI. The Badlands seems to be the Same mission design as the Last Mission in WC3 Where Thrall can just walk to pick up Grom and Walk back 🤣
I actually discovered that strategy (you have to pick up the necklace of spell immunity in the previous mission) in my 2007 speedrun!
good job on the run AND editing!
Certainly an interesting set of tactics
Your ship dodging technique gives me hope for humanity when the terminators come.
Nice micro! Really spot on.
44:14 - "The enemy ballista doesn't fire because it is afraid of damaging its own buildings"
Siege Tanks : "Haha supply depot between me and zerglings goes *BOOM!"*
ah the memories. thanks for this
im scared of the remake this was a gem! i feel like the heart of blizzard is gone for rts warcraft
now this is the speed run I was wanting for this ancient game!
that dragon swarm in the end was glorious
The bane of deathless runs
...Wow. This really puts into perspective how BAD childhood (and adulthood im sure) me was at WCII. Still loved it!
It did 25 years ago and it does now, the sound of 3 or more grunts clashing axes ringing in my ears... the horror!
This is brilliant but I'm going to have to flee, my ears can't handle all of this and I'm afraid I'm going to hear the ships in my dreams now.
Amazing. Hope LOTV brutal with all objectives will be next one
I remember playing the Classic one for DOS, and I moved the ships as well in time to avoid the cannons. However, it would just reduce the damage not negate it. It might have been changed, or I could just have it wrong. Still a really cool post. Thank you.
@19:15
Bae : "Cho, I'm in Grim Batol and neither the parents nore Doomhammer are in the refinery if you know what I mean"
Cho : "Say no more"
Nice one! Looking forward to the Human Campaign now :)
The voice acting in this game is legendary.
Who you want me to kill?
Lo-doke
I'm not ready
Fantastic job. Well done!
BR from Moscow.
You playing WC2 like some People would play DOOM. That's fascinating and funny at the same time.
Impressive! It took me weeks to beat both campaigns back in the day! Lol
I have to admit, that I never had thought you could blaze right through some of the campaigns.
Had to subscribe, excellent videos man.
Семь слов чтобы ютуб активнее продвигал канал
Крутейшее прохождение👍
When I was younger, I thought those axe throwing guys were just making that noise with their mouth every time they attacked.
I thought that for years, I just accepted it.
Impressive work!
Hell of a run
"escorting" Cho'gall feels like a mission design that shows up in every RTS game. The level designer has this grand design and completely overlooks that they gave the player all of the tools to beat the level instantly.
I think my favourite version is either the Protoss mission where you can win at the start because you have all the required units and Tassadar can cast hallucination a whole bunch, or the Brood War mission where you can defeat Aldaris because you have two fully upgraded and max energy Dark Archons from the word go
Raynor in Jacob's Installation is just like the Cho'gall run. You can easily solo speedrun him to the end beacon.
I'm actually going to play devil's advocate and defend the mission design. The map is unexplored, and if you're playing it for the first time then you don't even know exactly where your destination is (just a rough direction) and you have no idea where enemy ambushes lie in wait. Running ahead with Cho'gall would be an absolutely stupid strategy if you didn't have perfect knowledge of the mission layout. This "exploit" is not the design issue it appears, because the mission was always going to be trivial for someone who already knows the way anyways.
@@drosberg3680 I do not disagree but at the same time it seems that in Blizzard games the missions are still designed to be played a certain way, hence Stu's comment about the level. If you look at a series like Command and Conquer you have similar missions that can be beat instantly once you know the correct way to go but those missions feel like they were tightly designed so there is only one correct way (and it still requires a whole lot of skill to do them at speedrun speeds).
The only mission I can think of in the whole C&C series that has a similar "oh...so you can cheese this mission instead doing it the way we designed it" is the truck escort mission in Red Alert, and even then RNG can be your downfall if the bridge gets destroyed.
15:01 this pig sound is like the Wilhelm Scream of animals noises (at least, pig noises, anyway). Whenever a show/movie takes place on a farm and pigs are around, there is a good chance you'll hear it.
This game was so great. I wish the editor had more functionality like Wc3.
39:15
Footman: hehe come get some
Peon: oh shit, where my boys!?
Footman: hehe there is no esca-
The boys: charge!
I played this so much, 25-ish years ago... I always loved WarCraft2, Settlers and later Populous the Beginning to just build small towns and settlements. And I am not so good at RTS games, so I feel WarCraft 2 is easier than Red Alert and those other where you really must rush everything and play "correctly" to win, I like to take my time.. Build a nice base and playing all too defensive against the Computer..
Would love a remaster or something along those lines, and to be able to play on console on my television.
I did play WarCraft 2 on PSX a couple years ago, and it plays pretty good, never finished it on PSX though, but fun on the big television!
40:11 - 46:59, The DAD Rise as Quel'thalas Falls, hmmm Dad must be really amazing to make Quel'thalas fall, hahaha. Amazing runs though, my style of play just does not fit with speedruns so seeing all this was very neat.
This is relevant to my interests.
Nostalgia and boy blizzard back then was fantastic. or gaming industry in general. just good finished games. awesome.
You're the captain!
Wait a minute, goblins have a melee attack (not the kaboom) ?
Warcraft memang GAME YANG KEREN DAN BAGUS❤
추억 돋네 감사 감사 이걸영상으로 올리다니 스워블~록따~ 싹따 레뒤투 썰브
Hahahaha, you make it look so easy.
And I too learned from you, with the BtDP missions. Especially the last one with the Orcs.
Now a speedrun with the humans?