@@718Fresh2Deaththat’s completely false sir , the Knicks developed Immanuel Quickly, Obi Toppin, Julius Randle, Duece Mcbribe, And even Brunson. Those guys we have on the bench are not good enough offensively or defensively, TJ Warren would be interesting to see tho
@@margaretedwards9866 only unless I’m missing something we’re trying to win a championship not rebuild and thibs is only going to play his guys he trusts
Fixing the Knicks is not that difficult. The move that needs to be made is Josh Hart needs to come off the bench, and that's no plug towards Josh Hart he's a baller, which will help the bench scoring which is the worst in the league right now. That will move Bridges and Anunoby back to their natural positions. And Achiuwa to the 4 to help Kat protect the rim. To do this unfortunately the Knicks are going to have to make a sacrifice and trade Duce or Payne or both the get a wing off the bench, and let Kolak run back up point. Ariel or Mitch if healthy back up Kat. Problem solved.
@nathanielziering No they need Robinson to anchor the second unit. When given extended playing time precious has shown flashes, and has a positive plus minus rating. He is also a better rim protector than Kat.
Taking harts minutes away won't help. He plays the whole game anyway. Hart effort keeps us in games quietly .Think about that. Thibs need to trust who he has. There's no quick fix. We have less trade assets because thibs won't play our bench. Precious is too valuable to trade. Who wants sim? Sims doesn't even understand what he can be. His IQ is a problem. I don't think there's a trade that wins is the chip this year. Who would you like us to bring in??
@@Moe-p3ndoesn’t matter. You need Mitch. His rim protection would help keep guards out the paint and his rebounding provides more second chance points. There should also be more spacing with towns on the floor.
@ that 7 footer was the reason we made it out of the first round last year. So again I disagree - you don’t trade a proven center when you have Giannis Embiid and Myles Turner in the East.
I agree why would you trade Mitch at his lowest possible value. It makes sense for the future of the franchise to be patient and hope he regains some value.
Trade M Robinson and 2 seconds to Charlotte for Nick Richards & Tre Mann. Start Richards at the 5, move Kat back to the 4, move OG back to his natural position 3. JB at the one and Hart at the 2. Bridges goes to the second unit to play his natural position 3 with Tre Mann at the 1 and Deuce at the 2 and precious at the 4. That a start, from this it’s addition by subtraction. You have Payne, Precious, Kolek, Shamet,Hukporti, which should get you someone to add to the roster. He needs to be young and athletic..
Develop Dadiet 6'8 martt Ryan 6'6 a 3 point specialist and Hukporti a 7 footer.Tibs supposed to be this guy that makes guys better but now I see that is just talk and not truthful because he doesn't give guys the appropriate time to achieve this
@ so I imagine you’re a Knick fan and watch the games Ryan can’t play defense Dadiet is developing and thibs can’t trust him and Hukporti will be 3rd big after sims trade
Duece is our best trade asset that doesn't take away from where we are. But we cant afford to take one step forward and two steps back. This must be calculated
Mitch's first hurdle will be, can he run on his surgically repaired ankles? Or, will his ankles swell up? Then, can he stop and go, pivot, move side to side, do all the drills. If yes, then maybe he goes to the G- League for a few games, like Shamet. Assuming he gets cleared to play with the Knicks, he will be on restricted minutes, maybe 5-10 minutes/ game rising to 10-15 minutes by around May and capping at that level or 20 min./game max.. This is very different from what a lot of people are expecting. One thing is clear to me, with Brunson and Kat starting, the Knicks are going nowhere without a very good defensive center, because they can't stop bad and mediocre teams from scoring. My opinion is that they shouldn't have traded Randle and Divo. We could have had Divo on the bench and kept our physicality and toughness as a team and concentrated on getting a good center.
Mitch would provide stuff that would make us a better overall team. I would start Mitch. His ability to protect the basket, offensive rebounds is exactly how we beat the Cavs in the past. Hart cannot be the 2nd best rebounder on a championship team. Hart would be great coming off the bench with Mitch or Precious in the starting 5.
We can make big trades still assuming they make under 20m. Someone like Poetel for Mitch and Precious, maybe reroute them to Kings and send Heuter to Raptors and another pick. We can do it still. I’d like to see a centre and forward at minimum. Dallas did it, we can do it too. I think fans overstate trades sometimes and what happens in real life isn’t as complex as fans make it out to be (and vice versa).
We botched not going to get Nick Richards. Idk if mitch can stay healthy, but if we do trade him I think we need a defensive minded center in return. Rim protection has lacked, and not forgetting the playoff series against Cleveland, Mitch dominated Allen and Mobley. However best ability is availability.
You cannot dump paign Mitch is a hard lose if you convince yourself he’s not the best center consistently offensively rebounder. That’s bogus because he really can’t play but he’s not the type of player in playoffs if he’ll stay healthy. He could help defeat Cleveland. We need him solid and then we’d have more of a touch on the bounds defensively and offensively. Toppings I think needs to be on the floor
When Mitch gets back healthy, all should be good. An additional rotation player. anchor of the defense. We are already the second best offense in the league, you want to trade Mitch when he's 1 month away from coming back for another shooting big? I don't need more offense, we have that. I need defense.
Robinson is getting healthy and you trade the one guy that can shut sh*t down defensively is so NYG-ish (Joe Schoen), it''s just as dumb as letting go or trading of Saquon Barkley. Smh, ughh!!! 🙄
I'm looking to move Mikal and OG for young offensive threats,they defense they supposedly had have not Sufficed so u might as well go full offense if the defense we have is non effective
Knicks has a bench. Hukeporti, Diadet and Koleck. TJ Warren, Toppin. Coach needs to figure it out.
Knicks are terrible at developing you g guys,Tibs,Leon Rose included
They’re not a defensive unit
@@718Fresh2Deaththat’s completely false sir , the Knicks developed Immanuel Quickly, Obi Toppin, Julius Randle, Duece Mcbribe, And even Brunson. Those guys we have on the bench are not good enough offensively or defensively, TJ Warren would be interesting to see tho
@@margaretedwards9866 only unless I’m missing something we’re trying to win a championship not rebuild and thibs is only going to play his guys he trusts
How does ANY of those Bums you suggested are better than a Health MITCH
Fixing the Knicks is not that difficult. The move that needs to be made is Josh Hart needs to come off the bench, and that's no plug towards Josh Hart he's a baller, which will help the bench scoring which is the worst in the league right now. That will move Bridges and Anunoby back to their natural positions. And Achiuwa to the 4 to help Kat protect the rim. To do this unfortunately the Knicks are going to have to make a sacrifice and trade Duce or Payne or both the get a wing off the bench, and let Kolak run back up point. Ariel or Mitch if healthy back up Kat. Problem solved.
Agree Hart needs to be 6th man. If Robinson starts then voila. Precious is not good enough yet.
@nathanielziering No they need Robinson to anchor the second unit. When given extended playing time precious has shown flashes, and has a positive plus minus rating. He is also a better rim protector than Kat.
lol Moving Hart the bench? my guy plays the whole game! 😂
Taking harts minutes away won't help. He plays the whole game anyway. Hart effort keeps us in games quietly .Think about that. Thibs need to trust who he has. There's no quick fix. We have less trade assets because thibs won't play our bench. Precious is too valuable to trade. Who wants sim? Sims doesn't even understand what he can be. His IQ is a problem. I don't think there's a trade that wins is the chip this year. Who would you like us to bring in??
@@nathanielzieringdisagree taking minutes from hart will hurt us. He plays the whole game anyway.
Why trade Mitchell Robinson. Knicks need him. It does not make sense.
free agent ? injury history !!! they have no players with trade value but him !
@@Moe-p3ndoesn’t matter. You need Mitch. His rim protection would help keep guards out the paint and his rebounding provides more second chance points. There should also be more spacing with towns on the floor.
The concept of Mitch is greater than Mitch the player.
U definitely don't know .much about basketball,u can't win a championship when your 7 footer ages he does NOT get healthier
@ that 7 footer was the reason we made it out of the first round last year. So again I disagree - you don’t trade a proven center when you have Giannis Embiid and Myles Turner in the East.
we held onto robinson for 2 years while
injured , and now that he’s about to be healthy we trade him to another team so they can enjoy him? no chance
I agree why would you trade Mitch at his lowest possible value. It makes sense for the future of the franchise to be patient and hope he regains some value.
I go to Binghamton😎
Id like to get kessler from Utah - not sure what they would want back but I like him as a rim protector
The main problem is our MVP point guard can’t guard anyone and allows penetration and the defense has to scramble with help all game
Trade M Robinson and 2 seconds to Charlotte for Nick Richards & Tre Mann. Start Richards at the 5, move Kat back to the 4, move OG back to his natural position 3. JB at the one and Hart at the 2. Bridges goes to the second unit to play his natural position 3 with Tre Mann at the 1 and Deuce at the 2 and precious at the 4. That a start, from this it’s addition by subtraction. You have Payne, Precious, Kolek, Shamet,Hukporti, which should get you someone to add to the roster. He needs to be young and athletic..
We need more depth no surprise there size and a wing to give OG and Bridges a break in the playoffs
Develop Dadiet 6'8 martt Ryan 6'6 a 3 point specialist and Hukporti a 7 footer.Tibs supposed to be this guy that makes guys better but now I see that is just talk and not truthful because he doesn't give guys the appropriate time to achieve this
@ so I imagine you’re a Knick fan and watch the games Ryan can’t play defense Dadiet is developing and thibs can’t trust him and Hukporti will be 3rd big after sims trade
Duece is our best trade asset that doesn't take away from where we are. But we cant afford to take one step forward and two steps back. This must be calculated
Mitch's first hurdle will be, can he run on his surgically repaired ankles? Or, will his ankles swell up? Then, can he stop and go, pivot, move side to side, do all the drills. If yes, then maybe he goes to the G- League for a few games, like Shamet. Assuming he gets cleared to play with the Knicks, he will be on restricted minutes, maybe 5-10 minutes/ game rising to 10-15 minutes by around May and capping at that level or 20 min./game max.. This is very different from what a lot of people are expecting. One thing is clear to me, with Brunson and Kat starting, the Knicks are going nowhere without a very good defensive center, because they can't stop bad and mediocre teams from scoring. My opinion is that they shouldn't have traded Randle and Divo. We could have had Divo on the bench and kept our physicality and toughness as a team and concentrated on getting a good center.
Mitch would provide stuff that would make us a better overall team. I would start Mitch. His ability to protect the basket, offensive rebounds is exactly how we beat the Cavs in the past. Hart cannot be the 2nd best rebounder on a championship team. Hart would be great coming off the bench with Mitch or Precious in the starting 5.
I don’t wanna hear about losing any type of asset for Alec Burks. For God’s sake
We can make big trades still assuming they make under 20m. Someone like Poetel for Mitch and Precious, maybe reroute them to Kings and send Heuter to Raptors and another pick. We can do it still. I’d like to see a centre and forward at minimum. Dallas did it, we can do it too. I think fans overstate trades sometimes and what happens in real life isn’t as complex as fans make it out to be (and vice versa).
Fonteccio? What is the guy with the hat talking about? They can easily trade for Nick Richards and Cody Martin for Mitch and still save money
Easily, really? They would do that deal right now IF they could.
Knicks should not have let Johnny Bryant go to Cleveland!
They say we need bench help and to trade Mitch, but wouldn't mitch be the best backup 5 in the league?
We botched not going to get Nick Richards. Idk if mitch can stay healthy, but if we do trade him I think we need a defensive minded center in return. Rim protection has lacked, and not forgetting the playoff series against Cleveland, Mitch dominated Allen and Mobley. However best ability is availability.
If they trade Jericho, they can bring up TJ Warren whos lighting the G League up. This Okeke kid is also avg a triple Double. Id bring those guys up.
The defense is the issue. They miss IHart.
Precious and Sims only true option but must be a really good return!!!
What player would you want back for the 8th and 9th players on the team?
Sims a free agent next season pay attention,no team taking him on
You cannot dump paign
Mitch is a hard lose if you convince yourself he’s not the best center consistently offensively rebounder. That’s bogus because he really can’t play but he’s not the type of player in playoffs if he’ll stay healthy. He could help defeat Cleveland. We need him solid and then we’d have more of a touch on the bounds defensively and offensively. Toppings I think needs to be on the floor
When Mitch gets back healthy, all should be good. An additional rotation player. anchor of the defense. We are already the second best offense in the league, you want to trade Mitch when he's 1 month away from coming back for another shooting big? I don't need more offense, we have that. I need defense.
The Knicks have a Thibbs problem. I love Thibbs, but he is running the starting 5 into the ground.
Season is half over and Mitch isn’t even running
These guys are clowns. The Knicks need defense. Why give up Precious and Deuce for Funtechio?
U a clown,Mitch is washed and the defense Knicks have is non existent ,might as well go full offensive threat then
No Alec burks please, we always sign him and he does nothing we don’t need him
No Toumani Camara? y'all tryna help the Knicks or make them worse like
Take a look at your G league team.... 🤷🏿♂️
Knicks should Trade Mitchell Robinson he is always injured and injury prone and useless .
That’s the problem, every other team knows that too.
Second said a lot of nothing
nnba game's
Robinson is getting healthy and you trade the one guy that can shut sh*t down defensively is so NYG-ish (Joe Schoen), it''s just as dumb as letting go or trading of Saquon Barkley. Smh, ughh!!! 🙄
😂NBAgame
Why not kick the tires on Reggie Bullock
Thibs is not gonna play the bench so why trade for anyone lol...he has a bench he don't play smh
I'm looking to move Mikal and OG for young offensive threats,they defense they supposedly had have not Sufficed so u might as well go full offense if the defense we have is non effective
Good thing you're not a gm.