@@durnaski3303W, in my opinion Trunks looks the best when he uses Final Flash, Goku looks the best when he uses Kamehameha and Vegeta looks the best when he uses Galick Gun
They are opposite, in a way they compliment each other. This is why their fusion is always strong, so that technique was better suited for Vegeta than Goku.
@@lehlohonolomapitsi8607no it wasn’t it’s better for goku and he uses instant transmission more wisely than vegeta ever could hence proving y he’s always ahead
@dsmith5098 vegeta learned ki techniques there, similar to Jiren. Remember how Vegeta explained how Jiren was efficient with his power, and was able to amplify his attacks when fighting. I think Vegeta learned this plus that other techniques he used against Moro
@@lehlohonolomapitsi8607 still don’t make him a better user than goku he only started that training after already being way stronger thank goku was during his time on yardrat vegeta doesn’t deserve praise for copying gokus training
In my opinion I think that since vegeta might not have even known something like ultra ego existed as well as having less than an hour to try and beat the ToP he did it as it seemed like the next power available and then just said "Nah that too much work" and gave up
True lol, that’s why in TOP against Jiren in a certain time he couldn’t get hit no matter what, surely that means he couldn’t already begin to learn it and he gave up cause he couldn’t do it 😂 sure bud, believe it or not
Ultra Ego could be good if he finds a correct way to use it, instead of getting too battered to attack just when he has enough strength accumulated that he could have whooped the guy. The idea was to keep the mind fixated on destroying instead of on morality, but Geets probably pitied Granolah, or felt responsible for making sure Granolah wouldn’t do something he’d regret. So Vegeta never got the chance for a good showing of UE. I hope the “who cares” mentality can work out for the guy without him needed to carry Dende around like a backpack. I also hope Trunks and Goten can go a different direction from both of them. It can be similar to Future Trunks’s, someone who achieved power when he was willing to accept help. But please not an exact copy paste. I want something that looks as well as feels different. Like, a built-in costume change or fused Zamas-esque backlighting. And a principle, like, “you’re a hero when you understand the stakes and who you’re fighting for” or “being a hero means protecting people is more important than beating the bad guy” or something.
Well that's not completely true. He refused to get an ultra instinct cause HE COULDN'T ACTUALLY ACHIVE IT . he actually tried if this works or not but it didn't and that's why he gets blue evolution.
@@omoyenigold9793 His character development is what makes him one of my favorite characters and the dbs manga has given even more amazing character development which I love to see 💯
@@EricEzekiel-f4t There are youtubers to watch it from like TSO_Sage and some others but the best person watch them from is Carthu's Dojo after all sometimes they are reacting to his videos so yeah there is your answer
You can't beat somebody by copying their power because they will always be more proficient at using it, and even be creating new techniques that you've yet to copy. Instead, you need an even balance of learning how your opponents' techniques work and how to exploit them, while also having some of your own
I'm pretty sure that the reason why he didn't learn(but did try) UI is because it's way harder for him to separate his mind from the body. In Resurrection F, the movie/arc whis states that vegeta suffers from thinking out his movements much more than goku. UI isn't IMPOSSIBLE for Vegeta, but it is a natural opposite to what he can do
To be fair it's probably less about pride now and more about knowing you just can't beat goku by copying him. He tells black that goku is as unique as it comes so even stealing his body wont put you on par with him. Besides wouldn't be interesting if they both did the same things.
I'm waiting for the day when Vegeta becomes a Destroyer and Goku is Supreme Kai. Good luck to anyone who thinks they can kill one by killing the other.
It's like every single character except Goku has actual growth and complexity, meanwhile Goku is just a fighting type pokemon with too many linear evolutions
Vegeta would actually be stronger than Goku if he had learned red the way Goku did. Vegeta cought up with Goku's God form purely through training, which took a lot of time probably, whereas Goku got a quick and effortless fix, and vageta was already weaker than Goku before either got red so he made a massive jump to get equal than would have otherwise put him ahead.
Refused haha or can’t ? He tried that already and failed only the angels and Goku can do mastered ultra instinct no one else has been able to get passed sign. Dbs doesn’t have a mention of anyone else with that ability
Dragon ball is going to end as Vegeta being the God of Destruction and Goku becoming an Angel taking over Whis’s job. That’s if we ever get more content. I will literally unalive myself if they stop the anime after we get Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan.
Vegeta has been copying Goku for awhile now. Goku got SSJ so Vegeta copied him, Goku mastered SSJ and Vegeta copied him, Gohan gets SSJ2 cause of Goku so Vegeta copy’s him, Goku gets SSG so Vegeta copy’s him, Goku learns Instant Transmission so Vegeta copied him, etc
Because vegeta has original techniques, i personally like his "dirty fireworks" technique
The Garlic Gun is my favorite
@@BeautifulCecy mmm garlic gun, makes everything taste better, and one of his main moves too. I also am a fan of the final flash, very cool😎
@@BeautifulCecyI personally love fajita flash
@@BeautifulCecyFacts, I love when Goku uses the Kamehameha and when Vegeta uses Galick Gun. Those techniques suit them so well
@@durnaski3303W, in my opinion Trunks looks the best when he uses Final Flash, Goku looks the best when he uses Kamehameha and Vegeta looks the best when he uses Galick Gun
Vegeta learn a technique that took goku months to learn in just a few hours
He didn't actually master it.
They are opposite, in a way they compliment each other. This is why their fusion is always strong, so that technique was better suited for Vegeta than Goku.
@@lehlohonolomapitsi8607no it wasn’t it’s better for goku and he uses instant transmission more wisely than vegeta ever could hence proving y he’s always ahead
@dsmith5098 vegeta learned ki techniques there, similar to Jiren. Remember how Vegeta explained how Jiren was efficient with his power, and was able to amplify his attacks when fighting. I think Vegeta learned this plus that other techniques he used against Moro
@@lehlohonolomapitsi8607 still don’t make him a better user than goku he only started that training after already being way stronger thank goku was during his time on yardrat vegeta doesn’t deserve praise for copying gokus training
Didn’t he try to learn ultra instinct in the tournament of power? But then got sick of getting punched? Lol
I remember that. 😂
Before he got pummeled, he was catching onto Jiren and found a way to break through his defenses
Pretty much
In my opinion I think that since vegeta might not have even known something like ultra ego existed as well as having less than an hour to try and beat the ToP he did it as it seemed like the next power available and then just said
"Nah that too much work" and gave up
I wouldn’t mind if Vegeta can use instant transmission it’s amazing
Imagine if Vegeta combining final flash with instant transmission he could have defeated cell
I personally don’t like it. It’s like if they gave Goku big bang attack but that’s just me tho
Thats lame asf.
Because he is his own person
He flat out said ui doesn't suit him is all
He didn’t refuse to unlock Ultra Instinct, he just gave up on it.
True lol, that’s why in TOP against Jiren in a certain time he couldn’t get hit no matter what, surely that means he couldn’t already begin to learn it and he gave up cause he couldn’t do it 😂 sure bud, believe it or not
Nope!!! He refused
@@bigdealtheflyest3243 how did he refuse if he showed interest towards it?
He probably thinks it won't do good for him if he continues to copy him
He got tired of copying him his entire life 😂
Ultra Ego could be good if he finds a correct way to use it, instead of getting too battered to attack just when he has enough strength accumulated that he could have whooped the guy. The idea was to keep the mind fixated on destroying instead of on morality, but Geets probably pitied Granolah, or felt responsible for making sure Granolah wouldn’t do something he’d regret. So Vegeta never got the chance for a good showing of UE. I hope the “who cares” mentality can work out for the guy without him needed to carry Dende around like a backpack.
I also hope Trunks and Goten can go a different direction from both of them. It can be similar to Future Trunks’s, someone who achieved power when he was willing to accept help. But please not an exact copy paste. I want something that looks as well as feels different. Like, a built-in costume change or fused Zamas-esque backlighting. And a principle, like, “you’re a hero when you understand the stakes and who you’re fighting for” or “being a hero means protecting people is more important than beating the bad guy” or something.
Well that's not completely true. He refused to get an ultra instinct cause HE COULDN'T ACTUALLY ACHIVE IT . he actually tried if this works or not but it didn't and that's why he gets blue evolution.
Vegeta has improved since the android saga
@@omoyenigold9793 His character development is what makes him one of my favorite characters and the dbs manga has given even more amazing character development which I love to see 💯
no shit
Except that left arm💀💀
@@jothompson7610nah 💀
And he peaked in GT
It's so cute that he learned instant transmission 🥰
Bitch, he adorable with it.
Personally, I think it’s cool his transformations stopped being carbon copies of Goku’s.
He avoided Migatte no Gokui because he couldn't turn off his over thinking mind, not because he didn't want to copy.
Tried to go ultra instinct but got pieced up because he couldn't
Whis: Lord Vegeta why did you refuse to follow Goku's footsteps
Vegeta: Because he's a clown!!!!!!!!!!
That's the prince right there the manga be showing him more respect👏 the 🐐
Where did you get that from
@@EricEzekiel-f4t You ever hread of Cartthu's Dojo and TSO_Sage who reacted to it and some other youtubers I know 🍷
@@EricEzekiel-f4t There are youtubers to watch it from like TSO_Sage and some others but the best person watch them from is Carthu's Dojo after all sometimes they are reacting to his videos so yeah there is your answer
@@EricEzekiel-f4t UA-camrs all you got to do is look them up and you will find them
@@EricEzekiel-f4t I got it fron youtubers
The same technique won't work the same for everyone...he know that.... something too basic to understand lol 😂
Reason is because Vegeta thinks goku is a dumbass
Someone needs to tell Vegeta “if you can’t beat them join them” or do what he does but better. Lol
That is conforming and stupid.
What if vegeta cared about the Saiyans earlier
"Vegeta didn't try to get Ultra Instinct"
Vegeta in ToP letting himself get beaten to get ultra instinct:
Honestly, I'm happy, years ago I said I want the Saiyans to develop their own styles, gaining personal transformations.
You can't beat somebody by copying their power because they will always be more proficient at using it, and even be creating new techniques that you've yet to copy. Instead, you need an even balance of learning how your opponents' techniques work and how to exploit them, while also having some of your own
I'm pretty sure that the reason why he didn't learn(but did try) UI is because it's way harder for him to separate his mind from the body. In Resurrection F, the movie/arc whis states that vegeta suffers from thinking out his movements much more than goku. UI isn't IMPOSSIBLE for Vegeta, but it is a natural opposite to what he can do
I like when he decided not to get ui. I love when he says, " I refuse to surrender control!" Man didn't like the idea of ui....
That’s cope, he CAN’T use UI, not “won’t”
Best anime duo
Naruto and Sasuke are a great duo as well.
Saitama and Genos
It isn't as if goku is willing to share his techniques anyway, even with his children.
He's still up set about Goku not joining him nappa and raditz
I think the reason that he was fine with like super saiyan was because it was the Natural Evolution for sayings to go to
The power gap between them is the height comparison between them
this proves to say vegeta is NOT goku. they are two different ppl, and different ppl evolve in different ways.
Nah vegeta just wanted an excuse to hold goku's hands.
It’s not that he doesn’t wanna learn ui he fundamentally can’t; he isn’t wired the same way as goku is; and his fighting style isn’t suited for ui.
To be fair it's probably less about pride now and more about knowing you just can't beat goku by copying him. He tells black that goku is as unique as it comes so even stealing his body wont put you on par with him. Besides wouldn't be interesting if they both did the same things.
I'm waiting for the day when Vegeta becomes a Destroyer and Goku is Supreme Kai. Good luck to anyone who thinks they can kill one by killing the other.
It's like every single character except Goku has actual growth and complexity, meanwhile Goku is just a fighting type pokemon with too many linear evolutions
Vegeta is the Goat
U know pun was intended 😂
Refuses to copy Goku yet got super Saiyan,super Saiyan god,super Saiyan blue lol
Simply because he can't
False
@@donovanjr284 He can't
@@EricEzekiel-f4t yes he can
He chooses not to
Read the f*cking manga then @@EricEzekiel-f4t
@@donovanjr284no he just cant, vegeta doesnt have the same level of emotional control and battle style as goku
Vegeta would actually be stronger than Goku if he had learned red the way Goku did. Vegeta cought up with Goku's God form purely through training, which took a lot of time probably, whereas Goku got a quick and effortless fix, and vageta was already weaker than Goku before either got red so he made a massive jump to get equal than would have otherwise put him ahead.
Refused haha or can’t ? He tried that already and failed only the angels and Goku can do mastered ultra instinct no one else has been able to get passed sign. Dbs doesn’t have a mention of anyone else with that ability
Cause he’s his own character. Matter of fact, Goku doesn’t have an original technique, he just stole it from someone else.
Vegeta doesn’t have original techniques either
vegeta said ( in a whiny voice)Ui didnt work the first time i tried it so i dont want it
(refused to learn HA)
They should release this game to the public already it is fire 🔥 i want to play it
The ultra instinct part was a lie hers why in one of the gbz manga whis said ultra instinct does not fit him so beerus and whis taught him ultra ego
If vegeta did get ultra Instinct granola gas and frieza would be fu**ed
The most popular people will always die first wont they rip techno blade 😭
You all wronge vegita just realized that he needs to go on a different path because he knows that he will never ge ui/mui/tui/mui avt
Dragon ball is going to end as Vegeta being the God of Destruction and Goku becoming an Angel taking over Whis’s job.
That’s if we ever get more content. I will literally unalive myself if they stop the anime after we get Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan.
So technically ue is a techniq, not a form am i right?
This bum gave up on getting UI because he couldn’t🤣 🤣. Could never be Goatku
No need for the no pun intended because that joke was the worst
Rival?
This is why Vegeta is stupid
Vegeta has been copying Goku for awhile now. Goku got SSJ so Vegeta copied him, Goku mastered SSJ and Vegeta copied him, Gohan gets SSJ2 cause of Goku so Vegeta copy’s him, Goku gets SSG so Vegeta copy’s him, Goku learns Instant Transmission so Vegeta copied him, etc
Yeah, he said that in the video, and he didn't know other form beside these until SSJBE
@@greekzeus9818 yeah I posted this comment before watching the video
@@furiousgamerxz5141 Oh, okay lol
Waypast cool!
VEGETA ALL DAY
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