The Younger Dryas and the Origins of Göbekli Tepe: Who Built It? | Ancient Architects
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- The earliest radiocarbon date from Göbekli Tepe is approximately 11,600 years ago, which it is thought to be when people first descended upon this hill-top site in Ancient Anatolia and when the first circular enclosures were erected.
The date is intriguing to many, because 11,600 years ago, is also the time when the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe came to an end, which for those that don’t know, was a period of global cooling that lasted for approximately 1,300 years. Temperatures returned parts of Europe and North America to Ice Age conditions, but the effects were felt on a global scale.
With that knowledge, is it a coincidence that the origins of the enormous megalithic site of Göbekli Tepe, coincide with the end of the Younger Dryas, when temperatures rose sharply and eventually reaching modern levels? How did these hunter-gatherer communities have the technical knowhow to create such a site, such enormous and well-carved pillars of stone, such fantastic vessels and statues and so on?
Some believe the answer is still waiting to be discovered. Others believe the survivors of a lost ancient civilisation, wiped out during the Younger Dryas, came to Anatolia and taught the indigenous, primitive hunter-gathers their more advanced knowledge and technologies.
To me, the answer is far less sensational and the structures of Gobekli Tepe are not as mysterious as many make out. When we combine the archaeological discoveries across the region, with DNA analysis that has been done, with climate data for the region, and once we clear up a few misconceptions, hopefully what I’m saying in this video will make a lot of sense.
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I was thrown by the new logo, but only for a few seconds. I'm sure it will change again at some point in the future. As for the font, I dont care as long as I can read it. I'm here for the interesting facts, educated speculations, and your distinctive delivery. Thank you for "not another cat video" lol.
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The things I like about this channel is that you have nothing to “sale” me. Just the facts Jack. No flashy video, no loud sound or fast paced load music. No flashy things. “I can handle the truth”. Thanks
Finally, someone actually giving these people their credit. Raising questions are good for science.
Yes. These people deserve credit where credit is due. 👍
Ask Graham Hancock about that. The establishment has no interest in rewriting the history of man that they themselves wrote.
2:46 Here we see three of the famous magical "handbags" which have been found at ancient sites all over the globe!
GT was the catalyst for further study. It did seem to spring up isolated. Theories abounded as a result of this discovery instilling curiosity into the community of archeology for this area. Now we have many such sites to study. It was Discovered that survival was the cause of the rise and fall of advancement. It has all led to a refinement of our general historical knowledge. We have some exciting developments ahead.
Great presentations from you! Always thought provoking!
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20 minutes! Wow! I watch now and I greet you Matt from beautiful Egypt✌❤
Wonderful! Have a great time and thanks for watching
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This video is such an eye-opener! So much information that clears up so many questions i've had for a long time. Thank you for your hard work Matt!!🤗
Thanks Kayleigh! Enjoyed your video yesterday. 👍
While the video is very good, It is worth listening to scientist (geologist) Greg Braden's video on Gobekli Tepe as well as Dr Bruce Lipton. There are many salient points that this video doesn't cover or glosses over.
@@kcopara1 i will be looking for this to watch!
Same for me!
Cavemen did not build any of these civilizations around the world 🌍 you're being lied too !!!
Now it make sense. Thank you so much for putting Gobekli Tepe in a proper frame with other communities of their time.
You pitch this story as if it was a big disappointment for younger dryas civilization fans, but i feel like youre underselling it. We know so much more about the roots of our history thanks to this gobekli tepe and related sites.
I tend to be in the more skeptical of claims of ancient "advanced civs or of "delivered knowledge" but I think you overstated the case here.
The oldest generally acknowledged sites with detectable agriculture is from 13,000-11,000 years ago including notable sites in northern Syria very close to the Tepe sites. Given this the relationship between agriculture and the Tepe sites appears to me to be at the very least open to much more debate and uncertainty than presented here, and possibly even likely that some form of early agriculture was practiced by these people whether or not they utilized the Gobekli tepe site for that purpose.
I mean everyone is automatically skeptical but think of it like this is it really crazy to think an impact of sorts from space reset us? We know we nearly went extinct multiple times, we can see today evidence of civalisations starting out more advanced than how they ended up and just the fact that there's so much shit out there and the amount of near misses we have to think one in our past impacted and messed us up pretty bad.
I'm stoned btw so I've rambled so my bad I just mean like we have no proof of life out in the stars but it would be crazy to dismiss life out there right? So is it really crazy to think we have had to start over before?
Enjoyed this video. I never thought of Gobekli as "magical," but it did push the timeline for organized humanity way back from the Egypt and Mesopotamia most of us were taught in school.
Agricultural society did not happen overnight. Right?
Question. Several times you mention “wild grain” to dismiss cultivation of the same prior to some point in time. Wouldn’t the beginning of agriculture be with wild grains? And how many crop cycles do you suspect it would take until someone to noticed that replanting the seeds from a desirable harvest, would reproduce that harvest, when it’s that very seed that is being consumed as food? I’d argue that the only reason those folks survived the ice age, and/or the Younger Dryas because of agriculture and raising animals for food. That’s it is genetic modification of food that took a while.
Maybe they were cultivating it but it appears wild to archeologists because it still is essentially wild, just planted and maintained, how could anyone today tell what natural plants were manually grown or naturally?
they most likely werent eating lots of grains, be it "wild" or not. looking at the nitrogen isotope and carbon testing done on prehistoric humans. we can actually see what they ate. some archaeologists and anthropologists have put prehistoric humans in the same category as hypercarnivores. basically, they ate mostly the meat of large mega fauna, carnivorous animals, and some meat of smaller animals. plant foods made up a small minority in their diet. also, these plants were seasonal berries and such. some grains and tubers too, but in much smaller amounts(they were too poisonous for humans back then). plant foods were mostly available only in the summer(the climate was much colder during younger dryas). their diet was very heavy in meat, in fact it was so meat heavy thats why anthropologists called them hypercarnivores. even other carnivores were eaten by prehistoric humans. they were literally at the top of the food chain.
btw, "non agricultural hunters" dont necessarily mean "inferior unsophisticated brutes". looking at their remains, we see that their skulls were larger than post agricultural farmers. their ability to think was probably on par, if not superior. their bone mineral density was superior. they had stronger muscles. there were less incidence of dental cavities. no real evidence of obesity. cardiovascular disease was rare. also, looking at the many mysterious ancient ruins around the world(we dont know what ancient cultures built them), id say, they DEFINITELY WERE NOT inferior unsophisticated brutes.
another mystery is why they abandoned their hunter lifestyle. there was a mysterious decline in the population of mega fauna. is that the reason why they went into agriculture? what caused the population decline? i dont think its overhunting. a single cow can feed a family for an entire year. a mammoth would give you far more blood and meat than a cow. there was definitely something else that caused the megabeast collapse.
@@scamdem1c I’m impressed. This is very well thought out.
Although without modern preservation techniques, I doubt a cow would last a family back then a whole year. Jerky maybe? But certainly apportioned between families in the tribe, the meat form such an animal would be useful between hunts.
I imagine that in a hunter-gather culture the men would be the hunters, and the women the gathers. Men and woman being what they are, meat would sustain the clan, while deference would be given the woman’s efforts and berries and grain would be the dessert and gruel of most meals. (stretching the meal with carbs) To this day, women push Kale, while men burn steaks. (yum) But pretend to like kale to placate their women.
I don’t know that there was a decline in mega fauna after the Younger-Dryas, it seems that it was before that epoch, and that decline was probably due to solar influences in earth’s climate effecting their food. So I agree it wasn’t over hunting, but the impact on the animals food source that tripped them up. Still veracious humans didn’t help. That opposable thumb is something, isn’t it?
@@lnchgj humans have a very low stomach ph. lower than most animals. also with more protein in the diet, the stomach ph can get even lower than 1.5 or 1. this means hypercarnivore humans in prehistory had the ability to eat even partially rotten meat without getting sick. also meats naturally cure and ferment when left on its own. this preserves the meat for as long as bugs dont get to them. traditional cultures(modern hunter gatherers, etc) all over the world have techniques to ferment/pickle food. im sure prehistoric humans(with bigger skulls) would figure out ways to preserve meat. it would have been colder back then too. so, it would easier preserving meat. another way to "preserve" food, would be to store it in your body. the human body can store literally years worth of energy in the form of fat. that fat also contain nutrients. fat soluble nutrients, vitamin a, d, e & k. cholesterol, some amino acids, some minerals, etc. the body can also store some protein in small amounts. your protein stores can last you for about a month. human bones also store minerals btw. there was also a technique discovered by anthropologists. humans back then carried around cut up animal bones as a source of food. imagine this as packed lunch/snacks etc. there are lots of examples of these processed bones found throughout the world. with tool marks and drill holes in them. bone marrow is actually very nutrient and energy rich and in cold conditions they dont expire quickly. i have theories that our ancestors were probably more advanced than we think. probably even had animal agriculture and stuff. problem is, getting evidence for this is difficult, unlike plant agriculture.
there are theories for the decline in mega fauna. i think its been gradual throughout the years due to cataclysms. even before the younger dryas, mega fauna had been in decline. the final cataclysm is what probably ended the younger dryas. this coincides the with the "wiping out" of the large mega fauna in the americas. i think it was 12,000 years ago. the only large mega fauna that survived were american bison(probably because they were smaller than the others). everything else died. the olmec civilization vanished from the archaeological record too. tbh, there could be more lost ancient civilizations that we dont know about. possibly wiped out by cataclysms. oldest remains of anatomically correct humans date back to over 300,000 years. the younger dryas was only 12,000 years ago. theres definitely more stuff we dont know. interesting.
That’s a very insightful question. Modern agricultural science tells us that seven generations are required to observe and “fix” a desirable mutation in most plants. That’s plant generations, not human generations.
So it is conceivable that the first human that planted a grass seed was in fact developing a selected cultivar in very short order. I suggest that his son or grandson could easily differentiate his seeds from the wild stock his father started with.
So too cattle, the genus Bos. Recent experience shows that “breeds” like the Scots highland cattle are directly descended from the Auroch. Wild cattle, like most wild prey animals in general do not display spots. The zebra being the exception to the rule. And yet once domesticated spots begin to prevail. Why? Spotted prey are eliminated by selective predation, unless the spot provides camouflage. Observe the modern dairy cow, Holstein. Large black and white patches have no camouflage effect unless your hiding in the Oreo cookies.
How fast to cattle respond to domestication? In the early 15th century Scots drovers were taking highland cattle to sell to the English who needed food to support workers in the developing industrial revolution. These animals had long horns, long hair, short legs and no spots. By the mid 16th century English farmers has selected for breeds like the Hereford and Devon that has short or no horns, a short coat and in some cases a typical pattern of white spots. The trademark Hereford white face and belly. All of that inside three generations of human breeding. An color was the most superficial of the selected traits.
So what? So this modern observation gives us a perspective of how rapidly “agriculture” can develop from hunting-gathering effort. When you see spotted cattle in paintings on a cave wall, be thinking bred, not wild Bos.
And so, fox out.
I don't think it's at all unreasonable to think that advanced neolithic societies lived during the height of the last ice age. We have no record of them because the lands most temperate and easy to inhabit at that time were tropical and subtropical river valleys and coastlines; all of which were submerged in 100m+ of water when the glacial ice sheets melted.
Lmao cringe 😂😂
Especially considering the evidence of comet impacts in the northern ice sheets 12000 and 11600 years ago. The amount of water that would rapidly melt being hit with that force probably wiped out civilization from back then
@@NoName-fo7mz Whats cringe about curiosity and entertaining diffrent ideas?
@@GAB-vq7re lmao okay brah ya your hella smart lmao ok brah so worthless brah lmao
It would be interesting to make submarine investigations on potential former delta's river, or potential places suitable to human installation.
I like the new Ancient Architects logo!
Thank you!
You know what you never hear anyone ask? Often times there is discussion of early human technologies, but almost nobody ever asks when we picked up the rudimentary knowledge necessary for producing basic clothing or protective garments. There's definitely some primitive examples around the world today of woven plant fibers, or even just simple stuff like covering your junk with a palm leaf. That's the kind of thing you could expect with a relative level of comfort for almost any place around the equator. But what about those intrepid early humans who went out into the cold?
Great video as usual Matt!
Humans who moved from the equator must have had clothes, no doubt, otherwise they would have been subject to exposure. Fibers simply would not last in the record, but I find the technology of nomadic peoples today interesting. Mukluks are apparently better footwear in snow than the best modern materials. That's technology.
Loving how you expanded the pinpoint focus on one location to a wider view of the area, and the time involved - clear evidence of progression and evolution of culture and construction
This certainly dispels the "snapshot then make assumptions" approach with no context or perspective leading to the increasing "amazing evidence that an advanced civilization taught these people" - I definitely get the feeling that final conclusion was the driving force of many of the assumptions
This in conjunction of your article about linking animals to seasons demystifies and dispels many of the assumptions too. As a by the way - the māori of New Zealand (and the others of the Pacific) based a lot of their activities, planning and calendar (maramataka) on signs (tōhu) observed in cyclic patterns of plants, animals, stars etc
Great presentation!
I still find all of these sites utterly fascinating. The more we understand the more fascinating they become as it pushes back the timeline of human development compared to what I was taught. In my opinion, we have never given the credit our ancient ancestors deserve.
One question I have is how these people maintained the stonework skills across many hundreds of years and thus many many generations while remaining mobile? Large stone vessels and carved statues are not really suited to life on the move.
Glad to see you acknowledging that we don't give our ancestors the credit they deserve... These people were incredibly intelligent, and had a working knowledge of their environment that most of us could never hope to equal, not that we are that much different, we just have different priorities now. But as for the stone working skills....
No, largely there would not have been a lot of carving of large stone vessels and statues across this period of time to allow these people to practice those specific skills, but the skills required to work flint into stone tools would be directly applicable to the skills required to shape and work stone for structures, especially considering the mining and quarrying skills that were required for the production of these tools, often made from very specific flint or other rock types often only found in specific geographic locations thousands of miles from where they were used and buried under other strata.
It's not a huge stretch to go from mining to construction. And there is one more consideration. The people who built these structures may not have been farmers, yet, but much like the indigenous tribes of the pacific northwest, they may have found themselves in an environment that was sufficiently rich in natural resources that permanent or semi-permanent settlements could be established. This tends to be a natural trend, if a hunter gatherer tribe finds themselves in an area of abundant resources, the tribe simply stays put until forced to move again once those resources are exhausted.
If there's food here, why leave and risk starving somewhere else.
I think that the timing of the construction of these structures actually supports this perspective, as it is likely that the area would have looked nothing like it does today, instead having gone through an explosion in productivity as the climate was coming out of the younger dryas.
This is further supported by the interesting fact that it also coincided with with the evolution of new more easily harvestable wild grains in the area as is the case with the mutation that removed the brittle rachis problem from wheat, estimated to have taken place in this region at roughly the same time as the end of the younger dryas.
I disagree with both of you. I think we do give our ancestors all the credit they do deserve as we understand it at that time. We cannot just start assuming they did things in the past without proof that they actually did anything of the sorts. I doubt this stuff about Turkey is being taught in general education courses at all. Probably briefly glossed over at most. I personally do not went to be in school for 30 yrs as they try to teach me the entire history of every culture on this planet. Does this mean we are not giving them the credit they deserve? Nope. That is being saved for those individuals that do actually want to learn this stuff.
In this situation i would answer your question with word of mouth. The old taught the young how to do it. The carvings i have seen are very basic at best, none of them look like they were carved by a young Michelangelo. Given the estimated size of Gobekli Tepe i would say it was built over a good bit of time and that the whole village did not go out hunting all together.
@@mattking993 I think this might be an argument over semantics here... there is a significant difference between how academics and citizen scientists perceive our ancient ancestors and how the general population views them.
when I say we don't give our ancestors the credit they deserve, I am primarily speaking of the general public and those who see structures such as gobekli tepe and jump to the conclusion that this is evidence of some lost ancient super civilization that had to have taught these primitive people to stack rocks, cause you now.. they were too primitive to figure it out themselves...
Myself, plus most adequately informed individuals do not see any need to jump to such fantastical hypothesis as we are fully aware that our ancestors were more than capable of the feats of mathematics and engineering required for such constructions... So really it's a question of what is meant by the statement "we have never given the credit our ancient ancestors deserve." who is the we?
In my interpretation, the we is society at large, but not necessarily the small group of us who are adequately informed.
Cheers!
@@michaelransom5841 thanks for taking the time to reply.
You are right I am not an academic and when I said “ we” I did mean the general population. I appreciate I have not been to school for over 25 years and things may have moved on. Still there are still a great many people whom have still not heard of Gobekli tepi. Although I’ve never jumped to conclusion that this the result of an ancient super civilisation but it’s fun to entertain the possibility.
From my personal perspective, I am just starting to understand the complexity that these ancient societies must have had to support the honing of the skills shown in such sites. The masters of the stonework would have had little time to gather food. Furthermore they appear to have strong religious or spiritual beliefs which suggests they had a priesthood or shamanic class. The organisation and planning required suggests leadership.
I was taught all these specialists roles developed after agriculture and this is what I find so fascinating. In fact such societies must have existed and developed even further back in time which is pretty mind blowing.
@@michaelransom5841 Thank you for the clarification of what you meant. I do not wish to get into an argument of semantics but when you said "who is the we?" i cannot help myself but to point out that whenever someone says "we" the who always includes the speaker and 1 or more individuals and your interpretation clearly separates you from the "we".
I am in 100% agreement with the rest of your statement and add very skilled with their hands and fully capable of accomplishing works of art, specifically sculpting stone, without advanced technology or aliens lol.
Matt, this is one of my favorite videos that you've done. And, wow, what a ton of work you've done on this. Thank you so much for sharing this video. Have you traveled to Gobekli Tepe? I look forward to your upcoming videos!!!
Loving your newer videos. You've really come a long way in a couple years.
Thank you!
@@AncientArchitects No, thank you.
@@StaggersonJagz I agree, I thought some of his older videos I saw were a bit silly like the stuff Graham Hancock puts out there, but he changed for the better and is more grounded in real history it seems
Thank you for tying the regional histories into your work, you've done a wonderful job on this topic!
you say that the invention of agriculture had nothing to do with this, but according to a video you did a while ago, the origin of domesticated wheat has been traced to about 30km from Gobekli tepe.
Yeah…I’m not buying it. Comparing the other sites to GBT is like comparing a wooden wheel to a modern pneumatic wheel and saying they are the same because they are a wheel. Why the tee stones? Why not stay with a straight pillar? Why complicate it if it’s just holding up a roof or tarps? Why carve elaborate designs and say yeah that’s the same as what we see in their pottery but not even close at other site monolithics?!. I believe it was the same people but they seen something or were taught something that the relatives before and after them were not.
Good to find you guys again. Love the contents❤️🔔I rang to the bell.✌️
I've gotten pretty advanced in the area of cultivating plants I've identified in the wild and transplanted to my property. I have a hunch that like I have been doing, ancient peoples observed the wild plants they built next to for long enough to understand what the plants need to survive and simply made certain the wild plants growing where they naturally occurred had the right conditions to thrive. This would leave little to no evidence of their interactions with these plants. It could take hundreds of years to manipulate them beyond mimicking natural processes.
Under the circumstances their cultivation would be undetectable until someone started manipulating genetics through selective breeding.
Yep
A fact often overlooked: people were probably no less smart thousands of years ago then they are now. According to scientific research there would be no reason to why they would not.
(Just think of the way we treat this planet and each other and one might even assume our species has degraded)
@@camielkotte I completely agree and advocate just that with anyone who will listen.
@@camielkotte Agree.
I am waiting for you to tell me how these "hunter/gathers" where able to cut and move these "simple" t pillars. Let's not forget that some of these carvings are reliefs and not etchings. How did they do that? Please remind me.
And me please.
Good question.
That is a key question. One to ask with a bit less sarcasm toward our host. Rather one to ask of the archeologists. Archaeologists who typically could not build much less repair the chair they sit on, or plant and harvest the grain for the sandwich in their pocket saved for lunch. And yet they can typically tell us how megalithic structures were built and carved. The ubiquitous slave and the ever present stone hammer. Yes. I too am fluent in sarcasm.
And these are the questions we must ask, repeatedly, of the experts. Inquiring minds want to know. Clearly Mark is asking those questions. I’m sure you did not intend to offend. Nor do I.
Fox out.
@@MrJento You are able to deduce my sarcasm level from a simple question? Perfect. BTW, I can ask any question I choose, from any persons I choose, in an open forum. Our host researches what is being "discovered" from a large field of papers being offered to the public. He chooses what is relevant to share with his readers. So I ask, " I am waiting for you to tell me how these "hunter/gathers" where able to cut and move these "simple" t pillars." The answer to this is rather obvious to many of us whereas it becomes pointless to keep regurgitating what the experts claim.
Great video, thank you for remaining factual and using real science with history and corroborated evidence. Cheers.
Thanks Matt for giving a much needed, broader context. It's very important to bring things into perspective and very often that doesn't happen enough, leaving people with misconceptions and giving ground to wild theories. Am looking forward to your video on the advent of agriculture.
Great video, Matt. You really knocked it out of the park!
I have been watching your channel for a long time now and I think this is one of your best videos. Great analysis, graphics, and presentation. Thanks.
Thank you! I agree - I enjoyed making this one!
ENGINEER speaking: well done. Well sifted & devised concepts: the pillars are merely, at base, roof support pillars ~ with decoration. Full stop.
(Noting decorations demonstrate obvious knowledge and following of solar/stellar phenomenon)
I make these observations with long and searching examination of ancient cultures of Kmt linked to Japan and examination of geological & climate variations as research for my WIP recalibrating world history.
Thanks for all the continued effort you expend on every single show: I worked in film/tv/media, so I appreciate the hard grind of preparing each programme 🎬🎥
Very good discussion. Level headed and pragmatic. If you look at the period of 20,000 to 17,000 years ago you see rapid climatic flux, followed by abrupt warming at 16,000. The the younger dryas and its abrupt cooling and drying. The key to our development lies in that 20,000 to 16,000 time span. Constructs like GT are a result of that previous development. Not necessarily “prior civilisation” more like genetic and cultural adaptability, “toughness” if you will that allowed survival under adversity.
Just a thought.
Fox out.
Thank you very much for posting. So many important details, so many informations. What a great job!
Logic and reason will always win an argument. Well presented argument with clear evidence instead of hype.
Anytime I go on a hike and get a random shot of reception, I get a notification for an Ancient Architects video. I love it. XD
Ha! Awesome
A wonderful update. Your new logo is just a reflection of your evolution as researcher. I still remember your video over the "sumerian handbag", and when I see this new one... I can clearly admire your evolution.
Thank you for been honest to yourself.
I remember when he was enforcing the lost high tech ancient civ theory, hes grown out of it
Good one! Thanks!!
Thank you
This is so informative and grounded. I just fear that it won't be as popular with the average UA-cam viewer as some of the more sensationalist videos on here, which is a real shame for knowledge.
Thanks Matt ~ excellent presentation ! 👍
I feel like you really like to say how stuff isn't amazing just because people like Graham Hancock say ancient teachers or Atlanteans did it. By default, Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe are pretty miraculous because they were, from our current understanding, their own lost civilization considering they buried everything eventually and no one knew about them for thousands of years. Up until 1994 this literally was a lost civilization so I'm not sure it's necessary for you to let your disdain for fringe theories ruin how miraculous these places were and are in their own ways.
I, more than most, marvel at the incredible work of the ancient people. I have analysed Gobekli Tepe in as much detail as anyone can and I would love to be able to work on the site professionally. It's incredible and marvellous. What I don't like is when various details are left out, like other sites, older or similar age - to push an idea its a miracle site with no forbears. Because the information is so readily available, it concerns me to think why people have purposefully chosen not to mention other sites and data, when these other sites have been known about for about 2 decades. That is all. I love how incredible humans are and always have been, evolving for tens of thousands of years. The truth is incredible - we don't need to jazz it up.
The story of our species is always totally mind blowing... The inguinity of humans started well before we know it. Who knows what archeological treasure is left to be found somewhere under a desert or an ocean.
I love your analysis of gobekli tepe et al., and the indigents is overdue. Your holistic approach of climate, biology etc. is most welcome! I'm so tired of hearing about aliens, SUV's, and Super civilizations. Keep up the good works.....
Very nice Video, matt. Well done,cut and Voiced. I always liked your accent and calmness.
Graham won‘t love it, but i bet he would watch it thru.
I also have to say i really like the „channel makeover“
Good graphical work. Clear. Pleasing. Calm.
Love to see your channel grow in subs and substance.
Best wishes from germany.
Graham has his theories, Matt has impressed me by looking at the evidence, and only the evidence, with a fresh eye.
Thank you! Yeah, I do literally everything myself on this channel, from design, research, writing, editing, voice, marketing etc. so I appreciate the comments!
lots of work went into this video, so thank you and well done!
Ur research was spot on as far as the weather and how hard it was to survive!
As someone who has actually done graphic design and film for a living for a long time now. I love that new logo! The thumbnail looks great too! I did a double take because I thought it was an actual presentation for something until I saw what it was. It looks very professional!
I’ve been working on the branding and thumbnail redesign whilst making this video. Wanted a fresh modern look - thank you!
That sucks
@@NoName-fo7mz You would know!
Ur killin it bro!! Keep going! RIP Chuck🕊🙏
Great video. Well presented and much more thorough then other videos on gobelk tepe.
im not an archeologist, but one thing that has always bugged me is that when archeologists do look at these, they act like this is the "standard" everywhere -- why couldn't these sites be some what isolated with their technology while the rest of the world living in a more hunter gatherer role? Maybe they didn't develop agriculture here, but the organization and structures inspired others who did -- and then all it took was a bit of time to marry to two ideas together and develop them. If this was 10,000 BC -- that's clearly enough time for the skills to develop and spread which would account for a lot of these ancient megalithic structures. Maybe the information was simply not passed along as the ones who held it didn't reproduce, opting to build these structures and inevitably dying with the knowledge -- but others tried to copy, and then others tried to copy them, which is why we see what we see.
My mother used to watch The Younger Dryas on tv when I was growing up. It was her favorite soap opera.
So for the last 12,000 years the temperature fluctuated 2 1/2% and the previous 5,000 years it fluctuated as much as 17%. Absolutely fascinating. What I would not give to completely understand everything that happened and the causes. Great video. One of my very favorite channels. Keep up the great work. I do have one question. Why 4,000 years from the end of the younger dryas to the beginning of the Sumerian Civilization? I would love to have an explanation. Thanks.
This video is just *incredible*
The truly remarkable thig about Gobekli Tepe is that it is believed to have been constructed and used for possibly thousands of years, and was deliberately buried in an attempt to preserve it. That would indicate that there must have been a very sophisticated and large permanent population with a lot of free time to devote to such endeavours - something that hunter-gatherers do not have. This sort of work necessarily involves many well organised people on a permanent basis and therefore a large and efficient agricultural society with advanced knowledge of sciences not credited to them.
Settlements like this and the others mentioned exhibit the same advanced structure and knowledge at a time which conventional archaeology insists did not exist until many thousands of years later.
Evolutionary development is one thing, but large, well organised societies with the obvious infrastructure and free time to devote to such enormous enterprises indicates that populations at the time had much more knowledge and were much larger than we have been led to believe. These sites existed thousands of years before Stonehenge - itself a marvel of advanced capabilities not likely to have been around in hunter-gatherer societies.
The claim that the knowledge of architecture and stonemasonry was passed on to generations of hunter gatherers is simply too far fetched to be credible. Why would they spend time desperately needed to find food be spent instructing generations of starving savages the skills and knowledge they would not have need for for hundreds or thousands of years? The explanations given are not credible.
Another excellent video thanks
Another great video. The theory makes so much sense. Climate is still the main driver of society
This episode is the best yet! It’s like a demo of how knowledgeable and thorough - of how legit this host is. We hear rational explanations for what is clearly observed. Our body of knowledge is summed up and displayed, providing reasonable evidence for the flow of many people across this wide swathe of land over thousands of years. There’s legit documentation of what we see here instead of stories that have just been imagined. Of note RE: this host’s point-of-view - there is clear discussion of what is not fully known and understood. Guesses are called guesses, but even then there’s no fantasy invented to tell what might have been. There could be multiple hour-long episodes for a TV series made from the various subjects reviewed in this 20min clip; the numerous topics from this one episode could be an episode, everything from the wide span of time people lived here to those people’s DNA. Why is this channel only on UA-cam and not on the History Channel?!
The History Channel has destroyed its reputation with goofiness and the cheapest forms of lowbrow populism. Why should any rational person who has built a rep of being rational want to muck it up by association with those idiots?
Love the new logo. Excellent perspective as always.
Always enjoy your vids Matt, rock solid information based in thorough research and evidence....peace to ya.
Thank you
Fascinating! However I do wonder whether the more intricately carved structures and stonework were relics from BEFORE the Younger Dryas, that were just inherited by the people that emerged after it. In a similar way that the stone building blocks at places like Sacsayhuaman show evidence that previous cultures were far more advanced than the ones who tried to emulate them in later generations.
The pillars are curious, to me- even if they were just for roof support. Interesting that it didn't seem to evolve much through these communities.
Thanks for the update, Matt! 👍
They may have been functional - to support a roof but the art and iconography tells us about the people. It’s priceless work and so important
Yes, absolutely!
I think they are mostly tent supports. Animal skins stitched together and stretched over the pillars. The build of the pillars would give a bit of an overhang on the outside and more support on the inside.
My opinion (and I can be wrong) But, my opinion is, they are like Native American totem poles. Not roof supports. I don't believe they would have put faces on the top piece if they were going to hang things over them.
@@scogin2670 The roof material would definitely need to be solid in order for them to see the upper art. Skins/etc would droop down and obscure the art. Who knows though, maybe that's what they wanted. The art may depict something sacred that shouldn't be observed.
I recently watched a video from Praveen Mohan where he describes a lingham that was cleverly hidden inside a natural rock formation. The builders carved into the rock, carved the lingham, then fit a door (complete with notches/etc) to match the opening so no one could see it. It was only found when an earthquake shook the door loose. So a sacred object that they wanted hidden.
My point is that we can't possibly understand the thought processes going on when it comes to a lot of this ancient architecture.
Well done! Thank you.
Dude, you changed up your logo! I like the new one but I almost overlooked the channel! I won't make that mistake again.
Ha! Yeah, just freshened up the channel! 👍
@@AncientArchitects The tepe pillar is a nice touch.
Fantastic presentation again. This is my conclusion as well.
How did they cut and move the stones?
Thank you, Matt. Awesome info
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Very interesting topic and Information, put really well together. One question though, why the singing while talking? Kind of hard to concentrate because of that
YAY!! Excellent documentary at last.
Extremely interesting! Thank you so much. 👍
i wish there was a love button to click, enjoyed it alot! thanks
It's finally good to listen to someone with some commonsense, we do know how to remember things our elders taught us. Well done explaining we evolved . Simple. 🏴👍🏴
This sounds like a very reasonable and plausible account of what happened. Thank you for putting all this together. Quite fascinating.
Keep on digging and many more things will surface from the bowels of the earth. We were stuck with the love of the pyramids and forgot other things. I am in love with archeology since I was eight I am 81 yrs old now and stil in love with it. What failed me I don’t know.
Great video and love the new logo.
Thank you
There is clear evidence that they did engage in farming. The wheat sheavs in their carvings indicate that.
Thank you Matt. I always learn something from your videos. And even if I don't, it always makes me think.
Great stuff!
Awesome video Matt. I'm curious if the earlier settlements such as Courtic Tepe and Gussier Hoyak we're intentionally buried like Gobekli Tepe?
I am disappointed not to have heard this even mentioned. Seems like Matt thinks he has it all figured out now. He used to be open to all possibilities. What a shame
Pretty sure that he has rejected the idea that it was intentionally buried, he's had a couple of videos where he talks about erosion/etc naturally filling in the site.
Love your work!
I just listened to a interview with one of the archeologists at Tepe. He said they are getting away from the whole temple thing. Now there are leaning towards these “ special buildings “ or ones with the pillars are just decorated “ domestic buildings”. Not temples
Agreed. I think they are food storage structures. Maybe some had different uses too. But I don’t think “temples”
About time. EVERYTHING is labeled either a "temple" or a "burial site or tomb" by archeologists even when there is no evidence to support such a label. It's the automatic fill-in label when they really don't know.
@@BooDamnHoo Right. I don't see how they would have had time to build any of those places, as busy as they must have been praying and burying people.
The fact that the region is bracketed by the headwaters of both the Tigres and Euphrates rivers is tantalising. I can picture the people slowly moving down between the rivers evolving as they went
Fantastic video. Great format too. Those artistic renderings really give a great idea of what it might have been like. 👍👍
Excellent!
So what about the theory that Gobleki Tepe was deliberately buried ? Whether by enemies hiding knowledge or people trying to preserve the knowledge before a catastrophe? We can’t Carbon date solid stone so we’re not by artifacts and biological remnants. As well dating by soil compaction layers all this puts Goblike Tepe at a rough estimated when last inhabited and buried not when it was originally constructed?
Also you never mentioned anything regarding the actual carving and glyphs
Excellent video! Thank you!
I'd love to see more videos on some of the other sites in Anatolian.. thanks for the great videos
The more I study the Tepi standing T stones the more I think they are for roof beam supports, but why? (Unless stone was more abundant than trees). How did they mine the T stones? Carve them? With no metal tools.
You are doing a great job on Gobekli Tepe, fascinating site. Abrazos from Spain, Matt.
I’m loving learning about it and connecting the dots
Thank you, this was very informative! Still wondering about when, how, why and by whom it was "intentionally buried", though. Or if indeed it was, and why they think so.
The archaeologists think it’s unlikely it was intentionally buried now. It’s just natural slope slides. Watch my recent video to learn more: ua-cam.com/video/DD8rmxcxJao/v-deo.html
@@AncientArchitects you are the best! I hadn't got around to watching that yet. finally something that makes sense.
Absolutely fascinating
Just imagine what we haven't found! Stuff we're just walking over, some of it literally just a blob not resembling anything recognizable.
Also due to the arid climate of the day any settlements would be close to water, also likley a major dietary shift.
We need a under water version of lidar, it would be like taking off dark glasses and seeing the light!
Also in some cases likely intact, so exciting!
Great conversation, I can agree with you and keep up the good work, I like most don't have the time, resources, ECT to dig up the particulars and even formulate a proper question much less have a answer, haha.
The new logo says it all - inspired (even if I had to look twice) - wonderful Mat!
Thank you!
Thank you for your work. You make me think.
Excellent video. You’ve been knocking it out of the park for like a year now. Keep it up, I’ll be eagerly anticipating all your newest content. In this video it’s said that claims have been made that agriculture was started the exact moment gobekli tepe was built, who is it that claims that? I’d like to explore what they are proposing for myself. Also, who is it that says these ancient sites are miracles, again I'm looking for context.
Hancock implies it in Rogan and in his London Live interview on UA-cam. I know he doesn’t mean literally, but to the average person without prior knowledge, it could seem like the builders of Gobekli Tepe built the place AND started agriculture, which is incorrect.
@@AncientArchitects That's a fair assessment of Hancock on this topic I think. He’s an excellent storyteller and he has a way of getting me to think and to rethink about history, as do you. Still, it is always prudent to do your own due diligence. Thank you for the response.
You are a busy man, don’t feel like you need to respond to this. Like everyone else, I often find myself thinking about odd things from time to time. After viewing this video, it got me wondering just how small can a civilization be? Certainly as small as a single city, there are scores of city states throughout history that testify to that. How much smaller than a city can a civilization be then? As small as a single family? Is it the number of people that make a civilization, is it the size of the geographical area occupied by those people, the buildings and architecture, or is it just people living under agreed upon laws? I believe it is the latter. If I’m right then civilization is likely hundreds of thousands of years old. I’m never going to be surprised to see early evidence of civilization within those confines, amazed and intrigued maybe. There is room for a lost civilization, many in fact. I fully expect that if we keep looking we’ll keep finding them.
Excellent content and good choice of images.
Brilliant explanation, Matt. This video beats the fantastic fantasies out of these sites with a sledge hammer and replaces them with scientific explanation and good common sense. Excellent!
Great thorough context info thx! Other commenters have good point regarding wild grain vs cultivated conclusion....focusing on stone this vid is 1000% thx for it!!
That evolutionary approach makes so much more sense. There's been lots of "mystery mongering" about this intriguing site, as if it sprung from nowhere, almost fully born with no antecedents, as if hunter-gatherers suddenly decided to erect this massive structure while taking a break from hunting and gathering. There must have been a long period of incubation, with lots of discussion and sharing of skills. What puzzles me is how they shared and preserved their engineering skills given that writing had not yet been invented. I hope you have a chance to give us an update on the this interesting site. I've recently heard that there's some evidence of settlement around that site so that people did indeed live there part of the time.
I love your videos and believe that the information you are sharing is invaluable.
That being said have you ever considered hiring out a specialist in dictation
Bravo, what a wonderful thesis - weather driven. Matt, thanks for the research and the breathtaking look at our origins
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The main enclosures really remind me of the longhouses/great halls of various parts of the world including Asia, Europe, and North America. sort of an earlier proto version.
Although in later times these were also dwellings, I believe it is a reasonable hypothesis that the main enclosures at gobekli tepe and the surrounding area did not belong to a single family, but were strictly communal meeting places for rituals, negotiations, and where the community would gather to socialize and work out disputes, not unlike a community hall in a small modern township.
Making an assumption that power was fairly decentralized at this point in history, structures such as these may have been critical for resolving disputes and maintaining cohesion and order as the concepts of land ownership and resource management became increasingly relevant. Given these assumptions, It is easy to imagine a situation where "leaders" are the heads of extended family households, and that these families could be motivated to work together to construct these shared structures to ensure unity and harmony between the families, to foster trade, and to create a narrative of common culture and laws.
Just an idea, but one that we have seen in innumerable other cultures at the point of transition from purely nomadic, non-herding, hunter gatherer societies, made of of small tribal bands consisting of extended family members, to more sedentary settled societies with heavier emphasis on specialization and trade.
That was easy to understand, thanks.
Your wisdom always amazes me,Thank you and please keep the content flowing 🙏
Perhaps the people of göbekli tepe are the "lost advanced civilization".