That guy explaining the Clint Malachuk story left out a lot of details. The medic that attended to him on the ice literally had his hands inside of Clint's neck and pinched off the jugular vein all the way to the hospital. Absolute hero.
6:56 yes in hockey fighting is “a part of the game” but generally both players are aware that they are about to fight. You aren’t supposed to just attack someone from behind and punch them in the back of the head!
Yeah, that’s the key. Like in boxing or martial arts, both players have to agree to fight. If one doesn’t, it’s assault. Hockey also has stuff that isn’t allowed even during a fight like using your stick, skate, or the puck as weapons
My cousin, who made it to an NHL farm team, used to ask guys for their stats before a fight. If they weren't playing well enough that season, he wouldn't fight them. "You're a goon. I don't fight goons."
Rules for fights in hockey are very similar to boxing and martial arts as to what is allowed and legal, and what isn't. Generally, it is illegal to hit anyone from behind and in the head, except of using fists in a fight [depending on the league and association you have to fight with or without gloves]. Charging at someone, intent to injure, kicking, jumping, or using your stick, skates, gear, or puck as a weapon, etc will result in a major penalty and ejection from the game. In many cases there will also be a hearing with players' safety and a suspension from X amount of games, depending on the severity of the misconduct and resulting injuries. If it was actual assault with the intent to injure there will be criminal charges and possible suspension or ban from the league or even association/federation - i.e. the person will not be allowed to play pro or amateur hockey in any North American or European league again.
On the Malarchuk incident. He was SO lucky that the guy who saved his life was a former combat medic. He was very used to seeing wounds like that and immediately knew what to do.
Thank you so much about your comments on PTSD. As someone who also has it, it's very difficult when your condition is a joke to those around you. It just adds to the stigma surrounding mental health challenges.
People are starting to veer away from it just being something that people in wars get. I'm glad that it is. As someone with cPTSD more light needs to be shed on the fact its not just a soldiers mental health issue. Anything can be traumatic enough to cause it.
The funniest thing about that first clip is that in a post-game interview Winnipeg's former Captain Blake Wheeler said "I've got three beautiful kids, we're not having any more, so what the hell." when he was asked about the shot he blocked to his groin. What a legendary stereotypical hockey player response lmao
Exactly. Bertuzzi (the one who sucker-punched Moore) did this out of pure revenge. Moore hurt the Canucks captain in a game earlier in the season and the Canucks wanted revenge for it. The game that this incident happened in, Colorado was leading 7-1 late in the 3rd period, so Bertuzzi only had one thing on his mind at that point.
@@joedirte1886 thats true but after bertuzzi's sucker punch moores team mates jumped on top of them both and that could not have help moores health and everyone seems to forget that part
I appreciate that you call out the notion that delaying or not getting needed care is not strength. The idea that a man must tough it out instead of getting physical and mental health care is causing a lot of harm.
Absolutely, but as to this specific situation I think what was missed by Mike tho was it probably wasn't a "tough guy" thing and more of wanting to have it done by team doctors who are also going to monitor your care afterwards. But yeah, this whole tough it out thing can be to much. Of course I tow that line with my boys, all players, and I've made some mistakes with actual injuries, but on the whole it's made them better.
@@griffisjm I hear what you’re saying. I wonder where that line is between wanting to have your normal care team complete the initial evaluation and care in addition to the follow up vs. the time element and having capable medical staff do the preliminary intervention and warm transfer and coordinate care with those will be providing ongoing care and monitoring.
That is so true. When I was growing up, my dad had always been the guy to just “tough it out” when it came to everything. Never seeking help even from my mom etc because he believed it was weak for men to do so. One day he had minor chest pain and shortness of breath, he was reading the newspaper in the living room and never told anyone he felt bad. My grandma had noticed he wasn’t feeling well and asked him if she should get my mom and go to the hospital. My grandma was genuinely worried about him but he kept saying he could “handle it”. Later, my grandma was in the kitchen making lunch when she heard a thump. My dad had collapsed and she called 911. Long story short, paramedics came and did CPR on my dad and took him to the hospital. My dad had suffered a heart attack. Because he didn’t get medical intervention for so long, his heart attack had caused him brain death. He was in a coma and was on life support. I remember visiting him as a kid and not knowing why this had happened to our family. My mom took him off life support after one week, after everyone got to visit him and say their goodbyes. I learned the full story a little bit later as an adult. But at the end of the day, my dad wanting to “tough it out” cost him his life.
@@KawaiiCat2 oh goodness; thank you for sharing your experience. I hope that it becomes normative for people to ask for help instead of toughing it out so there aren’t more of these potentially preventable tragedies, but I think we still have a lot to do in terms of destigmatizing seeking and receiving care and providing spaces where those seeking feel comfortable having honest conversations with their providers.
A note about Malarchuk: people praised his toughness after the incident because he got off of the ice himself with little assistance. Clint has since said in interviews that he knew his mom was watching from home and he didn’t want her to see him die on live TV
The reason why there are sometimes criminal charges is because there are differing levels of offenses and penalties. Minor and major penalties are considered relatively safe and interfere with game play. A match penalty is dangerous, often intentional, and can lead to additional penalties. So, for example, body checking is allowed because they are trained on how to take a hit. When someone is checked from behind, they cannot prepare, and they are much more likely to be seriously injured. Any hits to the head are basically match penalties and can lead to charges due to how dangerous they are (whether it's hitting with stick, hand, whatever).
The footage really looks like that hit was made for no reason other than hitting him. Like there wasn't any reason I could see for the guy to swing his stick that high and at that angle. It's not like the guy was going for the puck and he hit the other player accidently, that looked completely deliberate.
@@19DannyBoy65 he was talking for goalies. but still, only a few wear neck guard, or even danglers on helmet . I wore both. it saved my throat a few times.
@@NightWarp I'm pretty sure all NHL goalies are required to wear neck guards. Most wear guards put on their chest protectors that aren't very visible under their uniforms, so you don't notice it if you're not up close. If you're looking for it, you'll usually see it. After the Adam Johnson incident (if you don't know it, don't look it up) it's become more "in-fashion" in the NHL, with generally two or three skaters a team now wearing one. Used to be only a couple at most in the league to the point that players who did wear it were identifiable by it. Tomas Plekanec, or "turtleneck", as he was known, for example.
These hockey injuries are really gruesome, these players are truly survivors! I can't even imagine the pain and traumatizing experience they've gone through.
8:50 I remember watching this game. I was shocked that Matt Cooke, the Penguins player involved, didn’t get suspended for the hit. I was even more shocked that Erik Karlsson, the Senators player that was injured, came back as soon as he did even though he was supposed to be out for the rest of the season.
I am especially surprised for his bad reputation around the league as a penguins fan he was fun to watch but I’m sure other hockey fans aren’t fans of him
As a hockey guy, fighting is celebrated, but these days the fight is more of a respect thing, kinda like boxing. Its used to settle things (which never works) or to get your team fired up. No one likes it when someone takes it too far, or accidents happen. Its not what the game is about
@6:50 Dr. Mike, there is a huge difference between two guys squaring up and fighting, and sucker punching someone in the back of the head, or swinging a hockey stick like a weapon.
Not much of a difference when both of them have equally dangerous effects on the victim. I don't know how you are making any difference out of it since the outcomes are unlikely for the quality of the player's life and his performance on the field.
@@NeetuSingh-gl1ue there’s actually a gigantic difference. When both players drop the gloves, they’re both capable of being able to defend themselves. Ur not able to defend yourself when an opposing player unexpectedly sucker punches u. Most hockey fights usually end in both players sitting out for 10 minutes anyways and it’s a rare case that it has any affect on performance later on
@@NeetuSingh-gl1ueI mean, firstly consent, huge difference between two players both being ready and up to fight each other, and someone suddenly punching another person in the back of the head. Secondly, when you're hit out of nowhere you're not ready for it, so you haven't braces for impact, had a chance to defend yourself or the ability to roll with the punch or fall in a safe manner.
@@tritonia_ all of this! Kind of a random example, but Harry Houdini literally died from getting punched in the stomach without having a chance to brace himself
Clint's story is definitely worth checking out. Not only did he survive his neck injury, he also survived shooting himself in the face. He suffered sever PTSD from the incident and for the longest time due to the stigma surrounding mental health he suffered in silence.
@@krugstrash “ the stigma surrounds mental illness, not mental health” he was correct the first time. Mental illnesses can affect your mental health. And it’s the stigma of getting help for either.
I had to get a retinal reattachment surgery. The aftermath was definitely the most painful thing I've ever experienced because I began to feel the stitches that were in my right eye. The weird thing is that nobody knows how it got detached to begin with. The doctors believe it was caused by blunt force trauma, but the only problem with that is that nobody, including me, could think of a recent time I experienced any blunt force trauma. The only time I could think of blunt force trauma in that area was from roughly 8-9 years prior when I suffered a concussion after someone pushed me into the bathroom wall at my school, and I hope I didn't have a detached retina for that long.
I had retinal tears that could have led to a detachment had I not had an eye doctor who noticed and had me see a specialist right away. My eyes were very bad being near or farsighted changes the shape of your eyes and basically it was just so bad it was putting stress on the retina. Idk if you had any vision issues prior.
My retinal detachment was a bit weird. I was on a bus - standing, as the bus was busy - and the bus had to brake heavily and I immediately had pain in my eye. The eye was uncomfortable for a couple of days until it actually tore officially but I was told that the jerking bus almost certainly caused the retinal tear.
Thank you so much for raising awareness for PTSD. I’ve had it since childhood and geez, the psychological pain is unreal. As a child I wasn’t taken seriously and treated like I was misbehaving. Clint is incredibly brave for talking about his experience, I hope he’s doing well
As someone with PTSD, I really appreciate the comments at the end. I have a service dog and a lot of people don’t understand the difference between ESAs and a PSD, because they don’t see me as someone who genuinely struggles. They just think oh, you’re a little anxious or a little sad. I wish these medical terms weren’t always used so lightly.
Unfortunately there's still a lot of stigma around it. "If you have PTSD, you're weak" or "only war VETs get that". As someone who struggled with PTSD in the past, I wish everyone good health. Take it slow, find a support group and therapist to help (if you can afford it) and cut out people who make situations worse for you. You're not alone, what you feel is valid but I promise everything will become easier to handle as time moves on. Don't put pressure on yourself to "just get over it". Take the time YOU need.
@@jeddybear5909 But also, you can heal from this. This is not a lifelong condition. With work and a good therapist it will get better and you can completely heal. My psychiatrist just removed that diagnosis from my records because I no longer qualify for it. It's a big deal. It takes a lot of work to heal but healing is possible.
Man, that's just rough. In general psychological issues are not taken too seriously and I think it is because it can't be imagined by people who don't suffer from it. Also it is abused by others, so yeah. Great. I don't have PTSD myself, but did go through things that gave me recurring bad memories/dreams. And those feelings are indescribable. Another time I couldn't sleep when I was a 9 hr plane ride from home. I was super stressed, like what if something happened to me, I couldn't be home quickly. I knew I was overreacting, but couldn't tell my brain to stop stressing. A very strange experience that only occurred once, but oh do I remember it. I think it gave me a better understanding of PTSD, even though I couldn't understand the actual reality of having to deal with that on a (almost) day to day basis. I wish you all the best and health!
My dad runs a beer league in Minnesota, about a year and a half ago, their oldest member who was in his early 70s at the time died on the bench without warning, and the team managed to do CPR and use the AED until paramedics came. Four months later, he was back and skating with them again. He just passed yesterday, but it's one of the single greatest stories to ever come out of their league.
As a hockey player, yes fighting is part of the sport. However it is like an agreement between players to fight, both drop their gloves and game stops, you can’t just go jump a guy and start punching him when he’s not ready for that
Thank you for taking a moment to talk a little bit about the seriousness of PTSD. I've had cPTSD for 21 years now and it can be a living hell. I didn't even realize just how much sleep I was losing every night due to my night terrors until I was put on a nightmare medication and sleep meds. We are still figuring out what dosage will work for me but when I slept through a night for the first time in over 20 years it was... astonishing. I woke up with body aches I slept so deeply and it was such an unfamiliar sensation; to have my body ache... just from sleeping so soundly... I truly don't know how I functioned at all before. It still surprises me all the time.
The way I always understood these types of criminal charges is that they can happen whenever an action occurs that can't be considered "within the game". Fighting happens, slashes on hands happen, getting hit with an errant skate, a hit against the boards. But deliberately slashing someone in the head or purposefully sucker punching someone and driving their face into the ice is well beyond the expected limits of the game
As a hockey ref and a nurse, I’ve been waiting for this!!! A couple summers ago, a coach took a slap shot right between the eyes after it deflected. Blood everywhere. Coincidentally, the head coach on the other team was a facial surgeon. And, If you would like, I can explain the unspoken rules of fighting. Basically, both players have to be in agreement. Can’t sucker punch people. Can’t go after star players. Fighting players are called “enforcers,” and when teams have good ones, injuries on the team are lower as people don’t want to cheap shot when they will get beat.
I was diagnosed with PTSD. He is describing the same symptoms I had and I can 100% understand why, what a terrifying situation. I hope he got the necessary therapy to be able to heal.
Thank you, sometimes i feel like im not good enough that there are so many people out there with PTSD and mine doesn't feel as strong but it still had stopped me from living my life for over a decade, I'm starting to accept that it is a serious thing for me and I'm not stupid for feeling the way that I do, but part of my inability to find better coping mechanisms was because I didn't feel good enough, it was a weird catch 22 that I was keeping myself in. I am glad I finally have found some confidence and that I feel good enough to get better, I feel important enough to have a real life.
Glad to know that you watch sports injuries. Definitely a lot more serious since it is real life. I'll be sure to try to find the other videos of this category you got
Thank you for mentioning that the term PTSD is overused today, kinda like OCD. Everyone seems to have OCD, everyone seems to have PTSD. But real PTSD (and OCD) are an enormous struggle to deal with. The flashbacks can be debilitating.
@@Itsmemommio Don't forget Autism, MDD (major depressive disorder), GAD (General Anxiety Disorder), Panic Disorder, and BPD (Bipolar Disorder). It's cool to have anything that those of us who have it don't really want but have to live with lol
I have OCD, so ngl, whenever someone who doesn't have it frivolously says "I'm just a little OCD about it" or something like that I cringe a bit as I remember the suffering I faced because of OCD
Someone told me this decades ago, so take it with pinch of salt, but jugular is like your pinky, aorta is like your thumb. Did you just stare at your fingers in silent awe? I sure did, when I first heard this.
There is a reason they say 30-60 seconds to get it clamped if its cut. Beyond that, yeah, you're a goner. The Femoral artery is the only other "accessible" part that can make you bleed out faster. In that case its 15-30 seconds.
I got the notification and clicked so fast!!!! Doctor Mike AND hockey?!?! Wooo boy, I was hoping you’d do some hockey reactions in the future and today has been a TREAT!!!! So stoked for this.
I never understood PTSD until I got life threatening medical issues. Thankfully I'm much better now but it took a long time to learn how to exist normally because of all the panic attacks etc. I've had therapy and now I'm mostly fine but I still start to absolutely ball my eyes out when I hear stories about people injuring themselves. This video was a non stop crying sesh. Weirdly enough I feel like I'm emotionally fine watching it. It's like i can't control the tears and crying
if you do another one of these, Dr. Mike, review the Tavares concussion! He hit cory perry's knee when he was down and whipped back significantly. He was half conscious and the med team tried their best to stabilize him. He was trying his best to get up and his teammates were encouraging him to lay down on the ice so they could stabilize him. incredibly scary moment because we didn't know what was going to happen.
@@Pikabo0 seeing Kyle Dubas’s face did it for me. It’s one thing now that we know he’s fine, but those few minutes of uncertainty had to be terrifying for anyone to watch live.
@@codycassel8996 There was also such a lower awareness of head injuries back in that time, they had no concussion spotters, no concussion protocol. They took you back, checked you out and if you said you were good to go, who knows your body better than you do? That was the mindset at the time. They've obviously learned a lot since then.
Thank you for your statement about the seriousness of PTSD. Thanks to some nasty stuff that I'm not going to go into I suffer from PTSD. Some days it's okay but when that flashback hits or those reminders happen it's hell on Earth. Seeing people laugh and joke about PTSD, for example saying their friend has PTSD about a subject just because that friend gets angry about something, kinda really pisses me off
There are so many more of those that he can make a whole series. Richard Zednik's laceration, Eric Lindros's center ice concussion, Max Paciorrety's head hitting a stanchion, etc.. lots of ground to cover.. :)
Rich Peverley collapsing on the bench in Dallas, Duncan Keith losing like 10 teeth on a play….yeah there’s a lot more. He can probably do a whole series in this.
The Zednik incident was remarkable because it was his carotid. If it had been a complete tra section, the two ends would have snapped back and taken too long to find and fix. The other thing that saved him was that an ER nurse was watching the game at the nearest hospital, and immediately called in the vascular surgeon so that she was arriving as Zednik was.
Doesn't make it right, but dude had to say that from his perspective. He ruined the guy's career and lawsuit was in the offing as well as criminal charges. Civil suit was filed against him that dragged on for years and wasn't settled until 10 years after the incident.
Yeah. "I had no intention of hurting you" -a man who grabbed the back of a player's sweater and started punching him in the back of the head. The guy was skating away, he did not want to fight!
“i had no intention of hurting you (as bad as i did)” obviously he wanted to punch him but i can guarantee he didn’t intend to do as much damage as he actually did.
@@mj-hu7ntWith as many incidents as the guy started, something nasty was bound to happen eventually. I used to dread when my home team (Minnesota Wild) would play the Canucks because I disliked his way of playing so much. He earned the nickname Bruisertuzzi long before this injury occurred.
To my best understanding as someone who grew up with a hockey obsessed dad; yes, fighting is part of the sport and is generally celebrated but there's rules about it. Don't hit people from behind, don't use your skates/sticks as weapons, things like that. That's what makes the difference between criminal charges and not basically, they replay the incident and try to see if one of those things happened. For example the incident where you brought this up around 6:20 you can see the one player intentionally grabbed the other's jersey from behind to pull him back, intentionally hit him in the head, and pushed him down onto the ice. But the incident around 1:45 where the one guy pushed the other and then got slashed with the skate would be considered an accident because when the guy was pushed he has no real control over where his limbs are going so it wasn't intentional that he hit the other player with his skate. And the incident around 3:00 wasn't an accident, the other player intentionally slapped him in the face with their stick vs the previous video where it was clearly an accident.
Yeah, and fighting does result in a penalty, players just do it anyway which is why there are rules. And important, though unwritten, rule is that both players need to agree to fight. And here in Canada that's taken pretty seriously by the players & the fans. If a player just skates up & hits another guy from behind, the fans of his own team might loose their respect for him. I think it's probably similar in other full-contact sports, you're allowed to hurt people, but only if they're ready for it. Otherwise you're seen as a coward or a jerk who's scared of a fair fight.
I just want to say that as someone with CPTSD, I really appreciated that last bit about not taking PTSD lightly. There have been times when mine was so triggered, I couldn't leave my room for a week, which caused a major spike in my MDD, which caused me to seek immediate help. PTSD is nothing to scoff at.
The one I remember as a kid that freaked me out, especially seeing him afterwards, was when Börje Salming took a skate to the face and had so many stitches across so much of his face. I can still picture the photo of him on the cover of the Toronto papers. It was gruesome.
Got to meet Malarchuk in person as he gave a speech on PTSD in my home town following the death of a firefighter (small town and he was friends with everyone). He's quite an amazing guy, but yes the PTSD in a way did more damage to his life than the actual injury.
I was waiting for the juggler cut the entire video, that one still haunts me. I believe after the most recent incident pretty much every league under the NHL is going to start requiring neck guards.
You'd think at some point they'd start looking at the skates though. Like, surely you could put more blades that are only a bit higher than the main blade to increase the points of contact and therefore reduce the depth of a slash.
@@bolbyballingeryou can’t really change the skate blades, somehow if they made them moves dull and they still worked, the sheer speed and force of a skate to the neck is enough to
I'm kind of a weenie, I'm familiar with this story but I can't stomach seeing it. How graphic does the vid get? I want to watch it in full but I'm a baby.
@@lowtierduster-7254 I think you misunderstood? They meant that maybe you could find a way to make the blades shorter so they don't go so deep whenever they do cut, like some sort of guard that leaves only a tiny bit of the blade uncovered. Of course blunt force would become more prominent, but lacerating a major blood vessel is WAY more dangerous.
I’m related to the head nurse who took care of Steve Moore in the hospital. That entire story will always ring in my head, especially because it took Moore out of the league for good, and it broke up the WCE for good. And all because Naslund was taken out by Steve Moore for a few games without retaliation.
When I was a child in the 80s I remember comedians joking that they "went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out" because of all the hockey fights.
As someone with diagnosed PTSD, can confirm; struggle. Significantly. for 12 years now. It's "better" but it's still there and it never seems to go away (who knows in the future, right?) It affects my sleep, mood, anxiety, relationships, sex drive, trust issues. It's not an acronym that needs to be bandied around. Understanding needs to come first - if not of the individual then at least of the symptoms and their effects on the individual.
I love ice hockey and Doctor Mike together. I love that they interviewed the most famous Finnish person Teemu Selänne from Anaheim. 🇫🇮 I really connected with this upload, thank you! ❤
There was a Bruins player in the 2011 playoffs that got, respectfully, destroyed. I'd love to see another video of this with fights involved Love the Videos Mike
yes they wear cups. there's usually one guy on every team who, for some reason, thinks he can go faster without it, but most of them value that area enough. the argument against neck shields is that it inhibits movement in the same way cups do, but...they've adapted.
Despite not being a doctor, I’ve always been a medical field/mental health nerd so I appreciate the breakdowns and explanations, Mike. Keep the uploads coming.
I remember I had kinda wanted to play hockey when I was in highschool and then my health class was watching sport injuries and the last one in this videos showed up. I have been afraid to ever try hockey or even skating on ice ever since. I know that now they have regulations to wear neck guards and such but I can never shake the thought of that happening to someone. Truly a scary moment and I'm glad he survived
"OFF THE FLOOR! ON THE BOARD! PAUL KARIYA!" 5:30 i was mentally preparing myself for that absolutely amazing moment, sadly it wasn't in there. Totally agree tho, there comes a point you have to prioritize your future over the game and a concussion that will impact him for the rest of his life crosses that point.
3:35 Glad you spoke a bit about Adam Johnson of the Nottingham Panthers, the player who lifted his skate is currently on bail, the coroner has currently suspended the case til Summer unless the police choose to press criminal charges. I think the EIHL is talking about making neckguards mandatory for all players too.
A lot of guys in the AHL knew him too. I remember the tributes during that week of games, and a number of AHL teams are making neck guards mandatory as well - including his old team in Wilkes-Barre, PA
the player didn’t “lift” his skate, it most likely flew upwards because he fell forward after his skate collided with the skate of the player next to him. unfortunate accident, but an accident nonetheless.
@@krugstrashI’m not sure it was an accident, looks very intentional to me. The movement of his leg was completely unnatural, he extended his leg into his neck, although I don’t think he meant any serious harm.
people don't seem to realize the speed of the game where these things can and has happened, its obvious Petgrave clipped Johnsons teammate which caused him to fall the way he did. I wonder if people saying it was on purpose have ever seen a full hip check before, where players literally get flipped. I mean the devils guy cutting the flyers players stomach is a less extreme example since the type of contact was different, but still resulted in an accidental cut. Hell, go look up Richard Zednik where his teammate got hit by a sabres player which caused his skate to cut his neck. And honestly I don't think Petgrave could have physically lifed his leg that high on his own given his momentum going the opposite direction of Johnson. Also he would have had a split second to make a decision to purposely life his skate like that. Maybe even less time than a split second. The issue is we live in the digital age where there's more eyes seeing these things than before and a ton of people create uneducated and emotional reactions to this sort of thing.
As a big hockey fan, I’d love to see you talk more about injuries in the sport, and watch more clips. It would be a bonus if you could get Trouba on as a guest too!
Hockey is a brutal sport. Takes a certain mentality to willing throw your body in front of a 90+mph slap shot. But there’s really nothing like NHL playoff hockey. Some of the best sport you’ll ever see.
I think Americans have no idea just how brutal & dangerous even modern day NHL hockey can be (esp compared to the NFL)... They are not only a violent contact sport, but one that is conducted on knife-blades on an ice surface!!!
Not to mention the culture these players (both Canadian & American) are brought up in--- "win above all else" -- "be a team player" -- "you just got your bell rung "....... Etc
Thank you for criticising the macho mentality! The worst part is that kids watch them and think that's how they should be when playing sports too (especially hockey in canada)
I think in his case, he just wanted to get home and be cared for by his own medical personnel and have his people around him, rather than be stuck in an unfamiliar setting, not to mention just not thinking with cold logic in those situations. I don’t think it was machismo
As soon as I saw the title, I thought oh boy, this is gonna be brutal. I know of two off the top of my head that are probably the worst injuries ever. One is the throat from a skate of a fellow teammate that fell forward and the skate up, the other is like a full 360 flip hit onto the neck and head.
9:41 I discovered another video about this particular injury...there was a shot where I think this player was sitting on the ice while blood was pouring from his neck, and the broadcast cut away from it immediately afterward. That was seriously gruesome.
after all the incidents of necks getting cut in hockey, in my league i play in they made it so neck guards are mandatory now, goalies either hafta have the dangler or the neck guard and players have to have the neck guard
Ngl I would love to see you react to Mike modano getting dropped in the stretcher. Also there are so many insane injuries in this sport you could do another video like this. Like zednik, tkachuck playing with a broken sternum during the scf, Evander Kane getting his wrist ran over, multiple guys getting their legs crushed in the boards. I can truly go on forever
9:50 the only reason he survived it a old Army medic was a medical personnel at the game clamped down on the laseration and got off the ice. The goalie said afterwards “I got off that ice because I knew my mom was watching”
Thank you for your comments about PTSD. I find it so difficult when people joke about it because everyday is a fight for me. There's nothing funny about it.
That guy explaining the Clint Malachuk story left out a lot of details. The medic that attended to him on the ice literally had his hands inside of Clint's neck and pinched off the jugular vein all the way to the hospital. Absolute hero.
Experienced field medic. Knows and understands that you gotta do what you gotta with what you got.
And was also there for the Zednik incident
Jim Pizzutelli 😊
Yeah, when I saw it I immediately though "stick a thumb in it".
Reminds me of Kentucky ballistics and him having to put in thumb in his neck to do the same after his 50cal exploded on him
6:56 yes in hockey fighting is “a part of the game” but generally both players are aware that they are about to fight. You aren’t supposed to just attack someone from behind and punch them in the back of the head!
Yeah, that’s the key. Like in boxing or martial arts, both players have to agree to fight. If one doesn’t, it’s assault.
Hockey also has stuff that isn’t allowed even during a fight like using your stick, skate, or the puck as weapons
Yeah and the comparison he does would be like if a boxer attacks his opponent after the bell is rung.
My cousin, who made it to an NHL farm team, used to ask guys for their stats before a fight. If they weren't playing well enough that season, he wouldn't fight them. "You're a goon. I don't fight goons."
Rules for fights in hockey are very similar to boxing and martial arts as to what is allowed and legal, and what isn't.
Generally, it is illegal to hit anyone from behind and in the head, except of using fists in a fight [depending on the league and association you have to fight with or without gloves]. Charging at someone, intent to injure, kicking, jumping, or using your stick, skates, gear, or puck as a weapon, etc will result in a major penalty and ejection from the game. In many cases there will also be a hearing with players' safety and a suspension from X amount of games, depending on the severity of the misconduct and resulting injuries. If it was actual assault with the intent to injure there will be criminal charges and possible suspension or ban from the league or even association/federation - i.e. the person will not be allowed to play pro or amateur hockey in any North American or European league again.
Normally you drop the gloves so your not getting hit by what feels like a truck hitting you
Casually dropping that you’re buddies with the captain of the New York Rangers >
He just gives Dr. Mike free seats by their bench to be close by for the next time he's in one of these videos. 😺😺😺
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Isn’t everyone casual friends with famous professional athletes? Excuse me now, off to Sunday brunch with my pals Wayne and Mark.
I’m sure Trouba is a nice guy but on ice he’s one of the dirtiest players in the league rn
He should do a follow-up video on injuries caused by his buddy.
On the Malarchuk incident.
He was SO lucky that the guy who saved his life was a former combat medic. He was very used to seeing wounds like that and immediately knew what to do.
guy also survived a suicide attempt and still has a bullet lodged in his forehead
Thank you so much about your comments on PTSD. As someone who also has it, it's very difficult when your condition is a joke to those around you. It just adds to the stigma surrounding mental health challenges.
People are starting to veer away from it just being something that people in wars get. I'm glad that it is. As someone with cPTSD more light needs to be shed on the fact its not just a soldiers mental health issue. Anything can be traumatic enough to cause it.
The funniest thing about that first clip is that in a post-game interview Winnipeg's former Captain Blake Wheeler said "I've got three beautiful kids, we're not having any more, so what the hell." when he was asked about the shot he blocked to his groin. What a legendary stereotypical hockey player response lmao
FYI - He's now on the Rangers.
@@kidranchanYeah and unfortunately he just had another one of those catastrophic injuries just a day ago💔😭
What an absolute beauty, love Wheeler
6:24 wasn't an accident. He hauled on his shirt, then punched him in the head. The fact that he fell on him afterwards, was just icing on the cake.
and moore's teammates jumped on top of bertuzzi who was laying on top of moore which could not have helped
Thank you.
Exactly. Bertuzzi (the one who sucker-punched Moore) did this out of pure revenge. Moore hurt the Canucks captain in a game earlier in the season and the Canucks wanted revenge for it. The game that this incident happened in, Colorado was leading 7-1 late in the 3rd period, so Bertuzzi only had one thing on his mind at that point.
@@joedirte1886 thats true but after bertuzzi's sucker punch moores team mates jumped on top of them both and that could not have help moores health and everyone seems to forget that part
Yeah it was no accident. Bertuzzi knew what he was doing and ended Moore's career then and there
I appreciate that you call out the notion that delaying or not getting needed care is not strength. The idea that a man must tough it out instead of getting physical and mental health care is causing a lot of harm.
Absolutely, but as to this specific situation I think what was missed by Mike tho was it probably wasn't a "tough guy" thing and more of wanting to have it done by team doctors who are also going to monitor your care afterwards. But yeah, this whole tough it out thing can be to much. Of course I tow that line with my boys, all players, and I've made some mistakes with actual injuries, but on the whole it's made them better.
@@griffisjm I hear what you’re saying. I wonder where that line is between wanting to have your normal care team complete the initial evaluation and care in addition to the follow up vs. the time element and having capable medical staff do the preliminary intervention and warm transfer and coordinate care with those will be providing ongoing care and monitoring.
Canada has so completely neutered itself that all their masculine virility has been sublimated into one single place: Hockey.
That is so true. When I was growing up, my dad had always been the guy to just “tough it out” when it came to everything. Never seeking help even from my mom etc because he believed it was weak for men to do so. One day he had minor chest pain and shortness of breath, he was reading the newspaper in the living room and never told anyone he felt bad. My grandma had noticed he wasn’t feeling well and asked him if she should get my mom and go to the hospital. My grandma was genuinely worried about him but he kept saying he could “handle it”. Later, my grandma was in the kitchen making lunch when she heard a thump. My dad had collapsed and she called 911. Long story short, paramedics came and did CPR on my dad and took him to the hospital. My dad had suffered a heart attack. Because he didn’t get medical intervention for so long, his heart attack had caused him brain death. He was in a coma and was on life support.
I remember visiting him as a kid and not knowing why this had happened to our family. My mom took him off life support after one week, after everyone got to visit him and say their goodbyes.
I learned the full story a little bit later as an adult. But at the end of the day, my dad wanting to “tough it out” cost him his life.
@@KawaiiCat2 oh goodness; thank you for sharing your experience. I hope that it becomes normative for people to ask for help instead of toughing it out so there aren’t more of these potentially preventable tragedies, but I think we still have a lot to do in terms of destigmatizing seeking and receiving care and providing spaces where those seeking feel comfortable having honest conversations with their providers.
A note about Malarchuk: people praised his toughness after the incident because he got off of the ice himself with little assistance. Clint has since said in interviews that he knew his mom was watching from home and he didn’t want her to see him die on live TV
“who does that!?” 3:02
your buddy trouba does actually 😂
LMAO I WAS GONNA SAY THIS. Troubas was worse than this lmao
Lol I commented this too. Hilarious.
Womp Womp Trouba is a good hitter which automatically makes him a goon because he hit daddy Sid
@@ewanwiebethats bullshit. Trouba will hit you but not commit a literal crime
@@undialated he sword swung his stick into someones head harder than the guy that got charged in this video.
The reason why there are sometimes criminal charges is because there are differing levels of offenses and penalties. Minor and major penalties are considered relatively safe and interfere with game play. A match penalty is dangerous, often intentional, and can lead to additional penalties. So, for example, body checking is allowed because they are trained on how to take a hit. When someone is checked from behind, they cannot prepare, and they are much more likely to be seriously injured. Any hits to the head are basically match penalties and can lead to charges due to how dangerous they are (whether it's hitting with stick, hand, whatever).
The footage really looks like that hit was made for no reason other than hitting him. Like there wasn't any reason I could see for the guy to swing his stick that high and at that angle. It's not like the guy was going for the puck and he hit the other player accidently, that looked completely deliberate.
He was charged with assault because of his history of doing that
The goalie incident actually paved the way for them to wear neckguards now.
Very few NHL players wear neck guards still, even after what happened to Adam Johnson a few months ago
@@19DannyBoy65 he was talking for goalies. but still, only a few wear neck guard, or even danglers on helmet . I wore both. it saved my throat a few times.
@@NightWarp My bad, you’re completely right. Unfortunately, it’s still true of skaters.
@@19DannyBoy65 theres talks of changing the rule so new players have to wear it but who knows if that will go thru.
@@NightWarp I'm pretty sure all NHL goalies are required to wear neck guards. Most wear guards put on their chest protectors that aren't very visible under their uniforms, so you don't notice it if you're not up close. If you're looking for it, you'll usually see it.
After the Adam Johnson incident (if you don't know it, don't look it up) it's become more "in-fashion" in the NHL, with generally two or three skaters a team now wearing one. Used to be only a couple at most in the league to the point that players who did wear it were identifiable by it. Tomas Plekanec, or "turtleneck", as he was known, for example.
These hockey injuries are really gruesome, these players are truly survivors! I can't even imagine the pain and traumatizing experience they've gone through.
Just shows how crazy it is to play over a 1000 games or have an Ironman streak hundreds of games long
the fact that the last guy survived is incredible cosidering Adam johnsons injury and recent passing
Adam Johnson's murder
@@XaviRonaldo0 It was an accident.
@@Milehighsnake98 BS.
@@Milehighsnake98well we will never know because why would your foot need to go that high off the ice
8:50 I remember watching this game. I was shocked that Matt Cooke, the Penguins player involved, didn’t get suspended for the hit. I was even more shocked that Erik Karlsson, the Senators player that was injured, came back as soon as he did even though he was supposed to be out for the rest of the season.
I am especially surprised for his bad reputation around the league as a penguins fan he was fun to watch but I’m sure other hockey fans aren’t fans of him
As a hockey guy, fighting is celebrated, but these days the fight is more of a respect thing, kinda like boxing. Its used to settle things (which never works) or to get your team fired up. No one likes it when someone takes it too far, or accidents happen. Its not what the game is about
Bloody Tuesday
That was a fight turned brawl in Denver that… went much too far
@@icarusbinns3156 same with the multiple bench clearing brawls between the habs and nordique
@@icarusbinns3156 wednesday
It's only NHL. Actual Hockey doesn't allow any of that nonsense, for a very good reason.
I mean Dunn stood up for Matty against the blue jackets last month settling things still happens just not as much.
@6:50 Dr. Mike, there is a huge difference between two guys squaring up and fighting, and sucker punching someone in the back of the head, or swinging a hockey stick like a weapon.
Not much of a difference when both of them have equally dangerous effects on the victim. I don't know how you are making any difference out of it since the outcomes are unlikely for the quality of the player's life and his performance on the field.
@@NeetuSingh-gl1ue there’s actually a gigantic difference. When both players drop the gloves, they’re both capable of being able to defend themselves. Ur not able to defend yourself when an opposing player unexpectedly sucker punches u. Most hockey fights usually end in both players sitting out for 10 minutes anyways and it’s a rare case that it has any affect on performance later on
@@NeetuSingh-gl1ueI mean, firstly consent, huge difference between two players both being ready and up to fight each other, and someone suddenly punching another person in the back of the head.
Secondly, when you're hit out of nowhere you're not ready for it, so you haven't braces for impact, had a chance to defend yourself or the ability to roll with the punch or fall in a safe manner.
@@NeetuSingh-gl1ueThe fact that you can brace yourself even a little bit when you drop the gloves makes a massive difference.
@@tritonia_ all of this! Kind of a random example, but Harry Houdini literally died from getting punched in the stomach without having a chance to brace himself
Clint's story is definitely worth checking out. Not only did he survive his neck injury, he also survived shooting himself in the face. He suffered sever PTSD from the incident and for the longest time due to the stigma surrounding mental health he suffered in silence.
That's incredibly sad to hear, that poor man my god. I would absolutely be interested on Dr Mike covering this case, and speaking on it.
the stigma surrounds mental illness, not mental health. i do agree with the rest of your comment though-his story is truly inspiring.
@@krugstrash there is in fact a stigma around mental health, especially for men. “You’re a man don’t cry” or “you’re a guy get over it”
@@xaviermcdiffett524 bruh did you not read my comment? I wasn’t arguing whether the stigma exists, i was correcting the term you used 🤦♀
@@krugstrash “ the stigma surrounds mental illness, not mental health” he was correct the first time. Mental illnesses can affect your mental health. And it’s the stigma of getting help for either.
I had to get a retinal reattachment surgery. The aftermath was definitely the most painful thing I've ever experienced because I began to feel the stitches that were in my right eye. The weird thing is that nobody knows how it got detached to begin with. The doctors believe it was caused by blunt force trauma, but the only problem with that is that nobody, including me, could think of a recent time I experienced any blunt force trauma. The only time I could think of blunt force trauma in that area was from roughly 8-9 years prior when I suffered a concussion after someone pushed me into the bathroom wall at my school, and I hope I didn't have a detached retina for that long.
I had retinal tears that could have led to a detachment had I not had an eye doctor who noticed and had me see a specialist right away. My eyes were very bad being near or farsighted changes the shape of your eyes and basically it was just so bad it was putting stress on the retina. Idk if you had any vision issues prior.
My retinal detachment was a bit weird. I was on a bus - standing, as the bus was busy - and the bus had to brake heavily and I immediately had pain in my eye. The eye was uncomfortable for a couple of days until it actually tore officially but I was told that the jerking bus almost certainly caused the retinal tear.
Thank you so much for raising awareness for PTSD. I’ve had it since childhood and geez, the psychological pain is unreal. As a child I wasn’t taken seriously and treated like I was misbehaving. Clint is incredibly brave for talking about his experience, I hope he’s doing well
As someone with PTSD, I really appreciate the comments at the end. I have a service dog and a lot of people don’t understand the difference between ESAs and a PSD, because they don’t see me as someone who genuinely struggles. They just think oh, you’re a little anxious or a little sad. I wish these medical terms weren’t always used so lightly.
I really wish it was taken more seriously as I have PTSD as well. So many people even professionals in the field act like it's no big deal.
Unfortunately there's still a lot of stigma around it. "If you have PTSD, you're weak" or "only war VETs get that".
As someone who struggled with PTSD in the past, I wish everyone good health. Take it slow, find a support group and therapist to help (if you can afford it) and cut out people who make situations worse for you.
You're not alone, what you feel is valid but I promise everything will become easier to handle as time moves on. Don't put pressure on yourself to "just get over it". Take the time YOU need.
@@jeddybear5909 But also, you can heal from this. This is not a lifelong condition. With work and a good therapist it will get better and you can completely heal. My psychiatrist just removed that diagnosis from my records because I no longer qualify for it. It's a big deal. It takes a lot of work to heal but healing is possible.
Man, that's just rough. In general psychological issues are not taken too seriously and I think it is because it can't be imagined by people who don't suffer from it. Also it is abused by others, so yeah. Great. I don't have PTSD myself, but did go through things that gave me recurring bad memories/dreams. And those feelings are indescribable. Another time I couldn't sleep when I was a 9 hr plane ride from home. I was super stressed, like what if something happened to me, I couldn't be home quickly. I knew I was overreacting, but couldn't tell my brain to stop stressing. A very strange experience that only occurred once, but oh do I remember it. I think it gave me a better understanding of PTSD, even though I couldn't understand the actual reality of having to deal with that on a (almost) day to day basis. I wish you all the best and health!
I hope you find at least a little peace on a daily basis, hope you are doing well :)
My dad runs a beer league in Minnesota, about a year and a half ago, their oldest member who was in his early 70s at the time died on the bench without warning, and the team managed to do CPR and use the AED until paramedics came. Four months later, he was back and skating with them again. He just passed yesterday, but it's one of the single greatest stories to ever come out of their league.
As a hockey player, yes fighting is part of the sport. However it is like an agreement between players to fight, both drop their gloves and game stops, you can’t just go jump a guy and start punching him when he’s not ready for that
Especially from behind
@@TheKrispyfortyou’d get jumped by everyone else on the ice if you do that.
@@Jlk9711which he was
Canada has so completely neutered itself that all their masculine virility has been sublimated into one single place: Hockey.
@@lancewalker2595 lol spoken like a true non canadian
Thank you for taking a moment to talk a little bit about the seriousness of PTSD. I've had cPTSD for 21 years now and it can be a living hell. I didn't even realize just how much sleep I was losing every night due to my night terrors until I was put on a nightmare medication and sleep meds. We are still figuring out what dosage will work for me but when I slept through a night for the first time in over 20 years it was... astonishing. I woke up with body aches I slept so deeply and it was such an unfamiliar sensation; to have my body ache... just from sleeping so soundly... I truly don't know how I functioned at all before. It still surprises me all the time.
YESS THANK YOU DR MIKE!! I’ve been waiting for you to make a hockey video for SO LONG!! 🏒
The way I always understood these types of criminal charges is that they can happen whenever an action occurs that can't be considered "within the game". Fighting happens, slashes on hands happen, getting hit with an errant skate, a hit against the boards. But deliberately slashing someone in the head or purposefully sucker punching someone and driving their face into the ice is well beyond the expected limits of the game
As a hockey ref and a nurse, I’ve been waiting for this!!! A couple summers ago, a coach took a slap shot right between the eyes after it deflected. Blood everywhere. Coincidentally, the head coach on the other team was a facial surgeon.
And, If you would like, I can explain the unspoken rules of fighting. Basically, both players have to be in agreement. Can’t sucker punch people. Can’t go after star players. Fighting players are called “enforcers,” and when teams have good ones, injuries on the team are lower as people don’t want to cheap shot when they will get beat.
thats the old rules i was raised with, but in todays hockey.... anything goes almost.
Well nonetheless, the NHL needs to knock off their stupid macho bullshit and mandate that all players wear proper protective gear.
@Veganerd_ No other sport comes close to the amount of gear hockey players wear.. You've never even touched a hockey stick before stop speaking
@@Veganerd_ agreed
We just drafted an ER physician to our beer league team. We’re excited. The best we had before was a veterinarian.
I was diagnosed with PTSD. He is describing the same symptoms I had and I can 100% understand why, what a terrifying situation. I hope he got the necessary therapy to be able to heal.
Thank you, sometimes i feel like im not good enough that there are so many people out there with PTSD and mine doesn't feel as strong but it still had stopped me from living my life for over a decade, I'm starting to accept that it is a serious thing for me and I'm not stupid for feeling the way that I do, but part of my inability to find better coping mechanisms was because I didn't feel good enough, it was a weird catch 22 that I was keeping myself in. I am glad I finally have found some confidence and that I feel good enough to get better, I feel important enough to have a real life.
Glad to know that you watch sports injuries. Definitely a lot more serious since it is real life. I'll be sure to try to find the other videos of this category you got
Thank you for mentioning that the term PTSD is overused today, kinda like OCD. Everyone seems to have OCD, everyone seems to have PTSD. But real PTSD (and OCD) are an enormous struggle to deal with. The flashbacks can be debilitating.
And add ADHD. Narcissism. It’s almost like “cool” to be this way when there are real people suffering in real ways with these conditions
@@Itsmemommio Don't forget Autism, MDD (major depressive disorder), GAD (General Anxiety Disorder), Panic Disorder, and BPD (Bipolar Disorder).
It's cool to have anything that those of us who have it don't really want but have to live with lol
I have OCD, so ngl, whenever someone who doesn't have it frivolously says "I'm just a little OCD about it" or something like that I cringe a bit as I remember the suffering I faced because of OCD
@@kyokoyumi I didn’t forget them but if I listed off every kind of “disorder” I’d be here all day.
@@kyokoyumiIronically sitting here watching this while dealing with a MDD flare up because I can’t get out of bed.
10:35 Never fully realized just how massive of a tube the jugular vein is until you showed this diagram.
Someone told me this decades ago, so take it with pinch of salt, but jugular is like your pinky, aorta is like your thumb. Did you just stare at your fingers in silent awe? I sure did, when I first heard this.
There is a reason they say 30-60 seconds to get it clamped if its cut.
Beyond that, yeah, you're a goner.
The Femoral artery is the only other "accessible" part that can make you bleed out faster. In that case its 15-30 seconds.
I got the notification and clicked so fast!!!! Doctor Mike AND hockey?!?! Wooo boy, I was hoping you’d do some hockey reactions in the future and today has been a TREAT!!!! So stoked for this.
yooo same
I've been waiting for this video for so long!!!
I never understood PTSD until I got life threatening medical issues. Thankfully I'm much better now but it took a long time to learn how to exist normally because of all the panic attacks etc. I've had therapy and now I'm mostly fine but I still start to absolutely ball my eyes out when I hear stories about people injuring themselves. This video was a non stop crying sesh. Weirdly enough I feel like I'm emotionally fine watching it. It's like i can't control the tears and crying
if you do another one of these, Dr. Mike, review the Tavares concussion! He hit cory perry's knee when he was down and whipped back significantly. He was half conscious and the med team tried their best to stabilize him. He was trying his best to get up and his teammates were encouraging him to lay down on the ice so they could stabilize him. incredibly scary moment because we didn't know what was going to happen.
I still have panic attacks watching that. Was convinced he was gone, had an awful one after Matthews got hit in the head the year after
@@Pikabo0 seeing Kyle Dubas’s face did it for me. It’s one thing now that we know he’s fine, but those few minutes of uncertainty had to be terrifying for anyone to watch live.
I remember that. I watched the game and saw it happen. It was horrific. All I could think about was Colby Cave. Honestly I was terrified for Johnny.
But he also should’ve covered one of Sidney Crosby’s concussions
JT is too good for Dr. Mike.
That Scott Stevens hit on Paul Kariya led to one of the best calls by the TV commentator:
"OFF THE FLOOR ON THE BOARD"
Yeah, but we as fans really need to stop celebrating that moment. It ruined Kariyas career to return to that game.
@@STARPHASE yeah you are right. Looking on it now it is hard to watch.
@@STARPHASEit was in the cup final if he wasn’t handicapped or dead he was coming back into that game
@@codycassel8996 There was also such a lower awareness of head injuries back in that time, they had no concussion spotters, no concussion protocol. They took you back, checked you out and if you said you were good to go, who knows your body better than you do? That was the mindset at the time. They've obviously learned a lot since then.
Just the reaction video I was looking for from you Dr.Mike!
Clint Malarchuck deserves his own video. Hearing the entire story from his perspective is very cool, but also insanely scary.
Thank you for your statement about the seriousness of PTSD. Thanks to some nasty stuff that I'm not going to go into I suffer from PTSD. Some days it's okay but when that flashback hits or those reminders happen it's hell on Earth. Seeing people laugh and joke about PTSD, for example saying their friend has PTSD about a subject just because that friend gets angry about something, kinda really pisses me off
There are so many more of those that he can make a whole series. Richard Zednik's laceration, Eric Lindros's center ice concussion, Max Paciorrety's head hitting a stanchion, etc.. lots of ground to cover.. :)
Could also add Koivu surviving cancer and coming back the same season
Rich Peverley collapsing on the bench in Dallas, Duncan Keith losing like 10 teeth on a play….yeah there’s a lot more. He can probably do a whole series in this.
Trent McCleary needed a tracheotomy on the ice too
The Zednik incident was remarkable because it was his carotid. If it had been a complete tra section, the two ends would have snapped back and taken too long to find and fix. The other thing that saved him was that an ER nurse was watching the game at the nearest hospital, and immediately called in the vascular surgeon so that she was arriving as Zednik was.
I was expecting zednik to be in there for sure as well as paciorrety. Pavelski was a nasty one too.
"I had no intention of hurting you" - clip of him literally attacking him.
Doesn't make it right, but dude had to say that from his perspective. He ruined the guy's career and lawsuit was in the offing as well as criminal charges. Civil suit was filed against him that dragged on for years and wasn't settled until 10 years after the incident.
Yeah. "I had no intention of hurting you" -a man who grabbed the back of a player's sweater and started punching him in the back of the head. The guy was skating away, he did not want to fight!
“i had no intention of hurting you (as bad as i did)” obviously he wanted to punch him but i can guarantee he didn’t intend to do as much damage as he actually did.
@@mj-hu7ntWith as many incidents as the guy started, something nasty was bound to happen eventually. I used to dread when my home team (Minnesota Wild) would play the Canucks because I disliked his way of playing so much. He earned the nickname Bruisertuzzi long before this injury occurred.
@@smooshiebear80so?
Hey Doc, just stumbled upon your channel, great vid! I'd love to see more hockey related stuff!
I am really liking these injury analysis videos! Very informative and even entertaining.
Man the Adam Johnson injury was just extremely sad
I was wondering if that was going to be on this video. Maybe the decision was made to leave it out since he died. RIP.
@@Soppaneiti1at the same theres really nothing to diagnose except that his throat was slit😭
Freaking brutal
It's left out because it is straight up murder.
Not a hockey play. He should be in prison.
To my best understanding as someone who grew up with a hockey obsessed dad; yes, fighting is part of the sport and is generally celebrated but there's rules about it. Don't hit people from behind, don't use your skates/sticks as weapons, things like that. That's what makes the difference between criminal charges and not basically, they replay the incident and try to see if one of those things happened.
For example the incident where you brought this up around 6:20 you can see the one player intentionally grabbed the other's jersey from behind to pull him back, intentionally hit him in the head, and pushed him down onto the ice. But the incident around 1:45 where the one guy pushed the other and then got slashed with the skate would be considered an accident because when the guy was pushed he has no real control over where his limbs are going so it wasn't intentional that he hit the other player with his skate. And the incident around 3:00 wasn't an accident, the other player intentionally slapped him in the face with their stick vs the previous video where it was clearly an accident.
Yeah, and fighting does result in a penalty, players just do it anyway which is why there are rules. And important, though unwritten, rule is that both players need to agree to fight. And here in Canada that's taken pretty seriously by the players & the fans. If a player just skates up & hits another guy from behind, the fans of his own team might loose their respect for him. I think it's probably similar in other full-contact sports, you're allowed to hurt people, but only if they're ready for it. Otherwise you're seen as a coward or a jerk who's scared of a fair fight.
Thank you for saying your peice on PTSD, as someone with CPTSD my life is pervasively impacted by it every single day
Doctor Mike I would be so happy if you did a video like this for motocross injury btw love the channel keep up the good videos
I just want to say that as someone with CPTSD, I really appreciated that last bit about not taking PTSD lightly. There have been times when mine was so triggered, I couldn't leave my room for a week, which caused a major spike in my MDD, which caused me to seek immediate help. PTSD is nothing to scoff at.
Just imagining that last injury got me holding my neck and almost vomiting.
Thank medical team he survived.
The one I remember as a kid that freaked me out, especially seeing him afterwards, was when Börje Salming took a skate to the face and had so many stitches across so much of his face. I can still picture the photo of him on the cover of the Toronto papers. It was gruesome.
It’s amazing that the goalie lived. I remember learning about that in school and i was amazed
Yep, he survived and was the starting goalie like 10 days later.
Got to meet Malarchuk in person as he gave a speech on PTSD in my home town following the death of a firefighter (small town and he was friends with everyone). He's quite an amazing guy, but yes the PTSD in a way did more damage to his life than the actual injury.
I am currently recovering from a retina detachment so its nice to see someone continue succeeding after one
I was waiting for the juggler cut the entire video, that one still haunts me. I believe after the most recent incident pretty much every league under the NHL is going to start requiring neck guards.
You'd think at some point they'd start looking at the skates though.
Like, surely you could put more blades that are only a bit higher than the main blade to increase the points of contact and therefore reduce the depth of a slash.
I saw the Adam video, it was harrowing. RIP
Not many players wear them but Kempe on the Kings started wearing one bc of it
@@bolbyballingeryou can’t really change the skate blades, somehow if they made them moves dull and they still worked, the sheer speed and force of a skate to the neck is enough to
I'm kind of a weenie, I'm familiar with this story but I can't stomach seeing it. How graphic does the vid get? I want to watch it in full but I'm a baby.
@@lowtierduster-7254 I think you misunderstood? They meant that maybe you could find a way to make the blades shorter so they don't go so deep whenever they do cut, like some sort of guard that leaves only a tiny bit of the blade uncovered. Of course blunt force would become more prominent, but lacerating a major blood vessel is WAY more dangerous.
I’m related to the head nurse who took care of Steve Moore in the hospital. That entire story will always ring in my head, especially because it took Moore out of the league for good, and it broke up the WCE for good.
And all because Naslund was taken out by Steve Moore for a few games without retaliation.
When I was a child in the 80s I remember comedians joking that they "went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out" because of all the hockey fights.
I’ve heard that joke too, but with baseball.
I don't know why I keep watching these, I have too much empathy, I swear I can feel it.
2:50; Great and dapper pic of fashion week, Dr. Mike.
As someone with diagnosed PTSD, can confirm; struggle. Significantly. for 12 years now. It's "better" but it's still there and it never seems to go away (who knows in the future, right?) It affects my sleep, mood, anxiety, relationships, sex drive, trust issues. It's not an acronym that needs to be bandied around. Understanding needs to come first - if not of the individual then at least of the symptoms and their effects on the individual.
Just got out if the hospital and have really been enjoying these kids. I really appreciate you❤
I was so happy when I got this notification! I am a huge hockey fan and seeing these makes me have so much respect for the players!
I live in Nashville TN , absolutely love hockey and the preds, it’s so scary to witness people getting hurt.
thanks for carefully, subtly, and tactfully addressing the issue of clout-ptsd vs actual ptsd. some of us were there with you.
I love ice hockey and Doctor Mike together. I love that they interviewed the most famous Finnish person Teemu Selänne from Anaheim. 🇫🇮 I really connected with this upload, thank you! ❤
I was sure I heard a Finnish accent before I even saw him :D
Kimi Räikkönen is way more famous than Selänne.
Mä niin etin tätä kommenttia, olin et jos tos ei oo Selänne niin mun silmis on jotai vikaa😂
This might be my fave crossover ever... Dr. Mike & Hockey? Yes, please!
Hi Mike could you do figure skating injuries I’m a figure skater and I thought it would be cool to see your thoughts on some of the bad injuries!
There was a Bruins player in the 2011 playoffs that got, respectfully, destroyed. I'd love to see another video of this with fights involved
Love the Videos Mike
I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!! THANK YOU MIKE
yes they wear cups. there's usually one guy on every team who, for some reason, thinks he can go faster without it, but most of them value that area enough. the argument against neck shields is that it inhibits movement in the same way cups do, but...they've adapted.
The risk seems great enough that the protection is worth the inconvenience.
@@allisk8001 true! Just hard to convince nhl players of that.
@@allisk8001plus if everyone has it then it’s not rlly a disadvantage
No, everybody wears a cup.
@@duane8829 most of them do, yeah. there's occasionally one guy who doesn't, but it's rare. this is according to an nhler. take or leave.
1:39 you’ll never believe he blocked another shot in that shift after that @doctormike
Despite not being a doctor, I’ve always been a medical field/mental health nerd so I appreciate the breakdowns and explanations, Mike. Keep the uploads coming.
Would love to see you do more of these for hockey. There's been some truly crazy stuff that's happened to players during games.
I remember I had kinda wanted to play hockey when I was in highschool and then my health class was watching sport injuries and the last one in this videos showed up. I have been afraid to ever try hockey or even skating on ice ever since. I know that now they have regulations to wear neck guards and such but I can never shake the thought of that happening to someone. Truly a scary moment and I'm glad he survived
Why does Mike look like he wants to fight me in the thumbnail?
I dunno, I guess he wants to put up a fight pose with the viewers
Showin' off his boxing skills?
He'll meet you behind your house after this vid😂
@@DemonsRun87😂😂😂😂
"OFF THE FLOOR! ON THE BOARD! PAUL KARIYA!" 5:30 i was mentally preparing myself for that absolutely amazing moment, sadly it wasn't in there. Totally agree tho, there comes a point you have to prioritize your future over the game and a concussion that will impact him for the rest of his life crosses that point.
What happened? Who was yelling?
@@smooshiebear80 the guy who got a concussion scored a goal after returning
@@knallerjohn4531and didn’t even remember it
3:35 Glad you spoke a bit about Adam Johnson of the Nottingham Panthers, the player who lifted his skate is currently on bail, the coroner has currently suspended the case til Summer unless the police choose to press criminal charges. I think the EIHL is talking about making neckguards mandatory for all players too.
A lot of guys in the AHL knew him too. I remember the tributes during that week of games, and a number of AHL teams are making neck guards mandatory as well - including his old team in Wilkes-Barre, PA
the player didn’t “lift” his skate, it most likely flew upwards because he fell forward after his skate collided with the skate of the player next to him. unfortunate accident, but an accident nonetheless.
@@krugstrashI’m not sure it was an accident, looks very intentional to me. The movement of his leg was completely unnatural, he extended his leg into his neck, although I don’t think he meant any serious harm.
@@krugstrashNot to mention he jumps UP into his neck
people don't seem to realize the speed of the game where these things can and has happened, its obvious Petgrave clipped Johnsons teammate which caused him to fall the way he did. I wonder if people saying it was on purpose have ever seen a full hip check before, where players literally get flipped. I mean the devils guy cutting the flyers players stomach is a less extreme example since the type of contact was different, but still resulted in an accidental cut. Hell, go look up Richard Zednik where his teammate got hit by a sabres player which caused his skate to cut his neck. And honestly I don't think Petgrave could have physically lifed his leg that high on his own given his momentum going the opposite direction of Johnson. Also he would have had a split second to make a decision to purposely life his skate like that. Maybe even less time than a split second. The issue is we live in the digital age where there's more eyes seeing these things than before and a ton of people create uneducated and emotional reactions to this sort of thing.
I'm hooked on roulette lately. Watching that wheel spin is just mesmerizing, isn't it
4:26; Great advice as a disclaimer for NHL participants, Dr. Mike.
As a big hockey fan, I’d love to see you talk more about injuries in the sport, and watch more clips. It would be a bonus if you could get Trouba on as a guest too!
As a hockey fan, I love how he knows stuff about hockey, Also RIP Adam Johnson
i remember watching that game in nov 2005 when Jiri fischer heart stop me and hockey fans were sad for him 😢
I nearly felt that first one myself, I can’t imagine the pain.
6:46 - I think these are good questions! You should do a reacting to sports injuries with Devin Stone! ☺️
Hockey is a brutal sport. Takes a certain mentality to willing throw your body in front of a 90+mph slap shot.
But there’s really nothing like NHL playoff hockey. Some of the best sport you’ll ever see.
I honestly think Hockey is the main reason that Canadians are so nice.
They burn through all their aggression on the ice.
I think Americans have no idea just how brutal & dangerous even modern day NHL hockey can be (esp compared to the NFL)... They are not only a violent contact sport, but one that is conducted on knife-blades on an ice surface!!!
Not to mention the culture these players (both Canadian & American) are brought up in--- "win above all else" -- "be a team player" -- "you just got your bell rung "....... Etc
P.S: not enough ppl (other than Marek & Sabres guys) give Jim Pizzutelli credit for his life-saving critical action he took to save Malarchuk
1:45 Brayden Schenn (the player hit by the skate) scored the OT winner in that game.
Thank you for criticising the macho mentality! The worst part is that kids watch them and think that's how they should be when playing sports too (especially hockey in canada)
I think in his case, he just wanted to get home and be cared for by his own medical personnel and have his people around him, rather than be stuck in an unfamiliar setting, not to mention just not thinking with cold logic in those situations. I don’t think it was machismo
Dr mike im a hockey player and im just gonna say cups are mandatory in all levels of hockey.❤ can you do another hockey injuries. Love what you do❤
Cups aren't mandatory. There are NHL players who don't wear them.
As soon as I saw the title, I thought oh boy, this is gonna be brutal. I know of two off the top of my head that are probably the worst injuries ever. One is the throat from a skate of a fellow teammate that fell forward and the skate up, the other is like a full 360 flip hit onto the neck and head.
9:41 I discovered another video about this particular injury...there was a shot where I think this player was sitting on the ice while blood was pouring from his neck, and the broadcast cut away from it immediately afterward. That was seriously gruesome.
was it the adam video ?
@@dovesraven I don't recall what it was or how I found it, but you could easily find uncensored video of it on UA-cam
Dont forget Mark Howe getting impaled on old school nets and Ian Lapierre tsking a slapshot to the face and coming back a week later 😂
When you see malarchuck’s injury for the first time you NEVER forget it. Dude is a legend, he acted quick and saved his own life. Absolute beast.
No he didn’t. It was the medic that pinched the artery closed
Vietnam veteran medic is what saved him because he knew what it took to save the life of someone quickly bleeding out
If he wasn’t enough of a legend, he jokingly asked the paramedics if they could get him back for the third period
You can call him a legend but he did not at all save his own life.
after all the incidents of necks getting cut in hockey, in my league i play in they made it so neck guards are mandatory now, goalies either hafta have the dangler or the neck guard and players have to have the neck guard
Ngl I would love to see you react to Mike modano getting dropped in the stretcher.
Also there are so many insane injuries in this sport you could do another video like this. Like zednik, tkachuck playing with a broken sternum during the scf, Evander Kane getting his wrist ran over, multiple guys getting their legs crushed in the boards. I can truly go on forever
MIKE KNOWS TROUBS!!!??? That's so awesome
It makes Trouba look bad.
9:50 the only reason he survived it a old Army medic was a medical personnel at the game clamped down on the laseration and got off the ice. The goalie said afterwards “I got off that ice because I knew my mom was watching”
0:43 the player that happened to had a funny press conference after that
Thank you for your comments about PTSD. I find it so difficult when people joke about it because everyday is a fight for me. There's nothing funny about it.
I always love listening to Teemu Selänne speak. The Finnish accent is just so strong in his speech
Dr Mike, please make a video about reacting to NCIS medical scenes