Wharfedale Diamond Loudspeaker Retro Review

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • Fashion alert!
    In this episode, Mike and David find themselves back in the nineteen eighties again, this time with the original Wharfedale Diamond - the little loudspeaker with ideas above its station!
    They both agree that even by today's standards, it's a dinky delight. Mike is especially taken by how it plays his favourite Scritti Politti record - 'Boom, There She Was!' Driven by David's Myst tma3 integrated, it sounds stupidly good considering how cheap it was - and still is.
    Each episode of Hi-Fi Riff features their unedited, unexpurgated views about all manner of weird and/or wonderful hi-fi designs. Mike has a huge wealth of knowledge from his hi-fi retail years, and David has written about hi-fi for thirty years. Now Editor-in-Chief of StereoNET, he's picked up a few things along the way.
    So relax and enjoy some one-take hi-fi riffing - and please leave your comments below.
    Don’t forget to hit the Subscribe button, this one goes up to eleven!
    The eighties-tastic title tune is called ‘UFO/Mike’s Jumper’, and used with the express permission of our old pal and rights holder Simon Lythe.
    To read David's review of this tiny treat, click on: zstereo.co.uk/....

КОМЕНТАРІ • 36

  • @timothyfreeseha4056
    @timothyfreeseha4056 2 роки тому +6

    I find your videos as instructive as they are entertaining! you can't make enough of them! big fan

    • @MrVinylista
      @MrVinylista 2 роки тому

      Thanks Timothy - cheque's in the post!

  • @Michael-xz1nk
    @Michael-xz1nk 2 роки тому +6

    I have Diamond 210’s and love them. Wharfedale is still a wonderful value.

  • @ianringstead2420
    @ianringstead2420 2 роки тому +2

    I sold hundreds of pairs in the 80's and we had a dedicated wall for all the different versions . Remember the coloured grilles options which was radical at the time. Fond memories.

  • @peterlynn3190
    @peterlynn3190 Рік тому +1

    Scritti Politti and diamonds
    Fun overdrive lol
    Thanks guys.

  • @Beavis-et8ox
    @Beavis-et8ox 2 місяці тому +1

    At that time there was a big(ger) rival to the Diamonds, the KEF C20. That was a big step fwd from the Diamonds for not much more money. Later I found then the famous Royd Eden, driven by 4 times NAP135, but that is another story 🙂

  • @TheNaka9
    @TheNaka9 Рік тому +2

    Great video. I love vintage hi-fi, knowing the story behind great products, the people who made it, etc, so thanks for a great UA-cam channel:)
    I wish you could review or tell us a bit about the story behind the Roksan Darius speakers, from the 90’s. I have a pair of one of the latest versions and they are very interesting and rare speaker. Cheers :)

  • @gdp6586
    @gdp6586 2 роки тому +2

    Got a pair of these in the loft. Going to dust them off and plug them into a modern Linn DSM for the shed as a 2nd system.

    • @michaelevans7015
      @michaelevans7015 2 роки тому

      Very cool! There is something charming about an inexpensive pair of great speakers being driven by a class source.

  • @banginghats2
    @banginghats2 Рік тому +3

    You missed out Keith Howard and Alvin Gold!. Sadly I did a search and found out that Alvin had passed away in 2017. He was a great reviewer.

  • @damianzaninovich4900
    @damianzaninovich4900 2 роки тому +1

    I’m really enjoying your casual reviews. I had the Boston A40’s then which had that tweeter and a 6.5” ac suspension woofer. Turned them upside down and covered the front with felt to soften them a little. Loved them as well until I moved up to the 1sr generation Celestion 3’s which I still have in mint condition. Thought if I ever needed a speaker for a bookshelf these would be perfect. To me the biggest difference is how boxy retro speakers sound compared to modern but they were still great.

    • @michaelevans7015
      @michaelevans7015 2 роки тому

      I like the Celestion 3's. Not heard (or seen) a pair in years!

  • @Narikeljinjira
    @Narikeljinjira 9 місяців тому

    NAD3020e with Wharfedale Diamond IIIs backbone of my teenage system, still work 36 years later. Been through only two record decks, Pioneer PL3000, last 10 years a Pro-Ject Debut.

  • @martinscase3904
    @martinscase3904 Рік тому +1

    A good friend had a pair and bought some bespoke wall stands that enclosed the speakers - with spikes top and bottom clamping them rigidly.
    Interesting how many commentators are reverting to the 'speakers are the most important part of the chain' philosophy - Paul McGann of PS Audio for one. I guess the quality of 'garbage' has improved over the years...

  • @elkartian
    @elkartian Рік тому

    Ive got active diamonds in my kitchen,i use it with my portable cd player, mini discs and Sony Professional Walkman,and mobile phone,sounds fabulous

  • @georgeetboom7719
    @georgeetboom7719 10 місяців тому

    just grabbed a pair of diamond 5s for 20quid for my first set up in my room, great vid

  • @Nancoman
    @Nancoman Рік тому

    I had a pair of these, and paired them with a small NAD amp. The 1980's sounded so good on them! Later on, I added an Infinity self powered sub with an adjustable crossover, and it was passable. The Wharfedales were special.

  • @stevesstuff1450
    @stevesstuff1450 Рік тому

    Back in the 80s I bought a new set of the then, brand new Diamonds; I think they were around £60-£70 range, but mind had the spring-clip wire terminals, and not the binding posts as seen on those in the video.... I had a Rega Planar 3, and then a Logic DM101 turntable, and a Mission Cryus 1 amp. What a combination! Sounded great!! 👍
    Still have those Diamonds somewhere; I'm going to have to dig 'em out and give them a listen again....see how they compare to my Q-Acoustics 2010i speakers
    Nice video; thanks for the kick in the nostalgias.... 😆

  • @gaborozorai3714
    @gaborozorai3714 Рік тому

    Yess, my first speakers, bought in '84 along with Rotel RP830 turntable with Nagaoka MP11, Rotel RA820 amp. A good enough system to get me hooked as an audiophile for the long term and to introduce me to classical music.

  • @razisn
    @razisn 2 роки тому +2

    This very real trait goes a long way towards explaining why so much Brit popular music from the 80s was mastered with virtually no bass..

    • @MrVinylista
      @MrVinylista 2 роки тому +1

      Haha. But then the good Lord made up for it by blessing us in the 1990s with drum and bass!
      Reinforced Records, Goldie, Manix, 4hero, DJ Nookie, etc., suddenly supplied a reason for fitting 12" bass units once again!

  • @lazgrillo6982
    @lazgrillo6982 Рік тому

    Somewhat bigger I've got a pair of early 2000s Pacific Evo 30s. Never ever been overly impressed with them until I was forced to get a new amp. Now I love them and I daren't change them in case I'm not as happy with the replacement.

  • @ianpearson8976
    @ianpearson8976 Рік тому

    I have a pair of delta 30s.apart from the crappy spring clips on the back I've always come back to them and still using them now on a pc system with a fosi audio amp.

  • @lgude
    @lgude Рік тому

    I picked up a pair of Diamond 4 s latest week here in Western Australia at a similar price. So far I’d say that I’ll change the caps because the treble seems pretty weak. Same for me US made 70s Dynaco A25s which somehow have followed me across the world. I had one those NADs too and just bought a NAD 757 7.1 AVR to light them up in various ways. I see the NAD 757 as a decent and affordable audio amp with great connectivity and I don’t have a tv😉

  • @minty2miller
    @minty2miller Рік тому

    While the company was still based in West Yorkshire, the 1991 Diamond IV was the apex of their original small speaker era . The original biwireable Cyrus/Mission 760/780 series just beat them at their price range (for overall clarity; they didn't have the same bass extension). I still own and use pairs of all three!

  • @TheNorliss
    @TheNorliss 2 роки тому +1

    Gems indeed! As a teenager in the late 80s I remember these being staples of the Richer Sounds and Lasky's catalogues. I reckon Wharfedale must have sold these by the tonne! £65 in 1982 is still probably only about £200 in today's money so these were a veritable bargain by anyone's standards!
    On your other comments about Ivor's belief (which I suppose was no surprise given he was in the the business of selling 'tables) it is funny how things seem to have shifted from the 'flat earth' philosophy in days of yore to the general belief of today i.e. spending most of your money on speakers. Personally I couldn't envisage spending a bomb on a 'table then putting it through dirt cheap speakers, nor would I want to drop a bundle on speakers only to use them with cheapie sources and amplification. I'm a bit like the old Spitting Image gag about Paddy Ashdown: somewhere in the middle.

    • @MrVinylista
      @MrVinylista 2 роки тому

      Yes indeedy - in truth you want a well balanced system and "the source is everything" mantra of the late seventies and early eighties was a bit over the top in my view.
      Mind you, Ivor et al. were fighting a rearguard action against the all-pervasive idea of the early seventies that speakers were everything and an amplifier was just - to quote Quad's Peter Walker - "a piece of wire with gain". So you can see why they really pushed it. They were right, but they overstated their case.

    • @razisn
      @razisn 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrVinylista Things have changed mainly because digital has offered a solution for baseline very decent sources even in the lower price tiers something which was far from true with regards to analogue sources which could sound positively horrible.

    • @MrVinylista
      @MrVinylista 2 роки тому

      @@razisn Agree - digital does bass reliably well, whereas analogue can be more variable. Some poor vinyl sources can be dire, in this regard.
      That said, any decent turntable if properly set-up will delver good bass, and high end direct drives in particular, can be spectacular - and put digital to shame.

    • @banginghats2
      @banginghats2 Рік тому

      Funny you should say that, because the idea of spending more on the source was actually considered revolutionary in the mid seventies, and the idea of spending more on speakers was considered very old fashioned and flat earth to the generation of subjectivists that sprang up in that period and who were into Linn/Naim/Rega etc. And btw, Ivor also made expensive speakers, but stood by his philosophy of getting the source right first.

  • @soundlysbananacam6182
    @soundlysbananacam6182 Рік тому

    1988 Lp12, s/h ittok , k9, creek 4040 and Goodmans Maxims ...yup it turned into lingo ittok 111mk1 k18 s/h Nait 1 and mk 1 kans . I then got saved by a leak stereo 20 ...

  • @gavinralph2910
    @gavinralph2910 Рік тому

    If you like early Diamonds, Grab yourself a pair of Monitor Audio 50 3G....can be had for under £70 as they have just been discontinued.

  • @MustacheVerra
    @MustacheVerra 3 місяці тому

    The Wharfedale Diamond Pro looks exactly the same, is it the same?

  • @marvellousmusic4336
    @marvellousmusic4336 3 місяці тому

    Qed 79 strand was dreadful.

  • @fredriklundberg3995
    @fredriklundberg3995 Рік тому

    please, mute your guitars on the wall hahahh