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  • The romantic tale of the Native American teenager, Pocahontas, and John Smith is an American legend. Was it really a love story or the figment of a vivid imagination? The truth of Pocahontas' life is subject to interpretation of both the oral and written accounts, which contradict one another. She lives on through her own people, who are still here today, and through the descendants of her two sons.
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  • @cathleenshlagel8246
    @cathleenshlagel8246 Рік тому +28

    Y’all have the facts wrong. She married kocoum when she was in her teens. Then had kaokee and was tricked into going on the boat. Once she was on the boat they killed kocoum and the tribe had to hide kaokee. No one knew of her until she was a full grown woman. They even changed kaokees name to Rebecca in fear the English would find her and kill her. I’m a direct descendant.

    • @Moon_Viber
      @Moon_Viber Рік тому +1

      I'm related to John Smith

    • @dreamcatcher5502
      @dreamcatcher5502 Рік тому +5

      So when she was kidnapped her husband was killed and the tribe hid her child Kaokee. Kaokee wasn't revealed until she was grown ? And you are a descendant of Kaokee ? Are you a member of the tribe ? I would love to hear more. You should write a book.

    • @Moon_Viber
      @Moon_Viber Рік тому +1

      @@dreamcatcher5502 They're pocahontas's 13th great granddaughter. Kaokee is their 12th

    • @Moon_Viber
      @Moon_Viber Рік тому

      How old was she when they tricked her onto the boat? I also heard that Pocahontas's name was changed to Rebecca and not Kokcum's.

    • @dresqueda
      @dresqueda Рік тому

      There are several books on the actual history of Metoaka (or Pocahontas). Her father was from the Powhatan Nation (Wahunsenaca), but her mother was Patawhomeck (Potomac). Nearly all eastern nations were matrilineal, so she was a Patahomeck, but many tribes belonged to the Powhatan Confederacy. She was used to forge an alliance between the Patahomeck's and the English, who hoped this would alleviate any problems with the Powhatan Nation. I am a descendant of Metoaka's sister and Chief Wahunganoche of the Patahomeck. The US has a rich history with lots of untold information. @@dreamcatcher5502

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +47

    No, they did not get her father's permission, they wouldn't even let him come to the ceremony! This is supposed to be factual? WTF!

  • @annehaight9963
    @annehaight9963 3 роки тому +185

    Nobody's gonna talk about the fact that she was TWELVE when this all started?

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +8

      Many questionable details here as well. Thank you.

    • @okeefenoke8128
      @okeefenoke8128 3 роки тому +49

      you can't compare today's standards to the past. Once a woman got her period- she was a woman. Adding that life expectancy in the 1600's wasn't like it was today. So where it seems insane to submit a 12 yr old to this by today's standards, it was "normal" at the time.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +7

      @@okeefenoke8128 While I agree with that wholeheartedly ... still 12? Woman usually don't start until like around ... 12- 15 yrs old. I do believe over the passage of time - details have gotten ... confused a might.

    • @leonewest2239
      @leonewest2239 3 роки тому +16

      @@okeefenoke8128 except for the British Royals? The Princesses never were married off at age 12, the same goes for the likes of Thomas Jefferson and all slave owners , age was not a consideration, only their “ sexual” appetites were.

    • @annehaight9963
      @annehaight9963 3 роки тому +6

      @@okeefenoke8128 Women entered puberty at later ages in times past -- it's strongly linked to quality of diet and overall standard of living. Girls today enter puberty as early as 8 or 9, but in Pocahontas's time, she probably didn't enter puberty until 15 or 16, possibly later.

  • @jimmyjamzzz3046
    @jimmyjamzzz3046 3 роки тому +62

    This should have a propaganda warning before it...

    • @jimmyjamzzz3046
      @jimmyjamzzz3046 3 роки тому +3

      @Baba Gandu Ha this is the "fairy tale" WTF are you getting on about here?

    • @jaydawg4632
      @jaydawg4632 3 роки тому

      Yes, Jamestown was not the first English colony in North America. Sites in Newfoundland predate it.

    • @gnostic268
      @gnostic268 3 роки тому

      @@jaydawg4632 The settlement was not founded by English and it wasn't permanent.

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 3 роки тому

      Say what son?

    • @vonVince
      @vonVince 3 роки тому

      Get a life.

  • @kathrynkildow3743
    @kathrynkildow3743 Рік тому +27

    What she accomplished, and what she suffered, from ages 12 to 22 is absolutely amazing!

  • @Joe-ve3cy
    @Joe-ve3cy Рік тому +12

    Being married early is common in several cultures age is approximately 13 years for girls..
    My grandmother was actually 15 or 16 when she had married.. This was common in earlier times... Also in many cases in current time a lot of women have their first child at 16.

    • @TheBarreraLifeStyle
      @TheBarreraLifeStyle Рік тому +3

      Yes common because allots of people died early

    • @houseofmayim5557
      @houseofmayim5557 10 місяців тому +4

      Yes, they did, but don't use that to justify this nonsense

  • @Single.White.Female
    @Single.White.Female 3 роки тому +46

    There's a county in my home state of West Virginia called Pocahontas County. Now I'll see it in a different light. I absolutely love these historical stories. Harmony was brought about by a carefree woman with humility & grace. Pocahontas aka Rebecca must've been amazing...her last words were "Everyone must die."

  • @mariuszgwozdz2372
    @mariuszgwozdz2372 3 роки тому +101

    I was told that all his writing was a lie. That he made himself look like a great guy which was the opposite of what he really was

    • @jimmyjamzzz3046
      @jimmyjamzzz3046 3 роки тому +17

      Yep she was only 12. He killed her tribe. Then forced her to marry her. Thats the cliff notes of the story.

    • @shachiethepom
      @shachiethepom 3 роки тому +6

      @dnvdk You mean Jebediah Springfield?

    • @rimadawson4087
      @rimadawson4087 3 роки тому +1

      @natasha you mean Jedidiah

    • @deborahasher176
      @deborahasher176 3 роки тому +25

      @@jimmyjamzzz3046 She never married Smith. She married a man named John Roulf. They traveled to England and had one child named Thomas.

    • @philipcone357
      @philipcone357 3 роки тому +11

      No Smith’s writing are considered exaggerated but they are invaluable. And Smith is involved in many things in the new world. He maps the North American coast and the Pilgrims use his maps of the New England area. As to Virginia being northern, it is well north of the Caribbean and extended to New Amsterdam ( the Hudson River).

  • @lorimaloney2368
    @lorimaloney2368 3 роки тому +22

    I am a chiefs daughter in Nova Scotia he was a chief for 25 years,I was raised on a reservation it’s the mother’s that pass on the culture as well as the father but your mother needs to have it more so .

  • @Monkeydaddy42O
    @Monkeydaddy42O 3 роки тому +15

    This is a false depiction of her and you should really do more research when posting something you know nothing about

  • @cheriamber9818
    @cheriamber9818 3 роки тому +17

    While this documentary is historically inaccurate overall, some of these comments certainly aren’t helping lol

    • @hannahmetzger6622
      @hannahmetzger6622 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. Like, can't people just be _nice_ for once on the Internet?!!

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +57

    Ok, some of this is inaccurate. John Smith was brutal and a liar.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому +10

      A liar? Says who? Brutal? Yes, but in a way that he had to be. He had to be brutal to the English settlers, so many were lazy and eating way too much. He had to implement that no work no eat rule. And the work was tough but as a result he Jamestown didn't end, and they didn't all die.

    • @jayizzett
      @jayizzett 2 роки тому +1

      He wasn’t even real

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 2 роки тому +1

      Oh, you knew him personally, did you? Or did you just read it in a book and decide to make it your narrative? Well, here's news: other people, including historians, studied other books - and documentation, and decided on a different narrative to yours. Tough luck!

    • @shannonmayer18
      @shannonmayer18 2 роки тому +1

      @@kelrogers8480 I think you read the book and decided to make it your narrative. Historians have debunked your claim. He went to other countries too you know. And he told that same story about a native princess wanting him and saving him from the brink of death almost every time. By the way you weren't there either

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 2 роки тому

      @@shannonmayer18 No, I did not read "The book". It's called proper academic study. One examines the documentation and evidence. You really don't sound too bright, and your emotional IQ is obviously quite low. Seriously, your comments are not those of a a mature adult! But as long as you feel you're "winning", I guess that's all that matters. But I don't argue with children, so cheers!

  • @mdaze9753
    @mdaze9753 3 роки тому +16

    I hardly think Virginia is a "northern state". 🤨

  • @Jordan-pf9ws
    @Jordan-pf9ws 3 роки тому +70

    "There's no women and children to absorb the growing agression." WTF does that mean?

    • @rosaliesteward2160
      @rosaliesteward2160 3 роки тому +12

      Men being able to say what they think and feel about things that upset them, which has a 'defusing' effect at an emotional level. Sometimes this is benign for the women and children and other times men will 'take out' these feeling with brutality towards them.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +8

      @@rosaliesteward2160 No.

    • @elliott7706
      @elliott7706 3 роки тому +5

      @@rosaliesteward2160 that's stupid

    • @rosaliesteward2160
      @rosaliesteward2160 3 роки тому +4

      @@elliott7706 I agree, it would be better if people took responsibility for their feelings, rather than take them out on the innocent or vulnerable.

    • @philipcone357
      @philipcone357 3 роки тому +15

      Historically Rosalie is correct. Women especially have a tendency to civilize men.

  • @msd5808
    @msd5808 3 роки тому +15

    They didn't bring women to Jamestown? How did they expect to last?

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 3 роки тому +4

      The London investors wanted Product/ROI. Colonists would have to deal with reproduction on their own. The "surplus population" could be relied upon to furnish new people or "transport" petty criminals/Indentured Servants.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +2

      After they built up the colony - buildings etc - then they were to have regular supply ship visits.

    • @msd5808
      @msd5808 3 роки тому +1

      @@graceamerican3558 @Otokichi786 ok makes sense

  • @limpnjen
    @limpnjen 3 роки тому +34

    If I had kids I wouldn't let them watch Disney stuff. Even if there was a love story, which I doubt, the marriage was still a direct result of her being a prisoner of war! How this has been so romanticised like it has is amazing.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому +5

      That's because she was loved and famous by the English even when she was alive.

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 2 роки тому

      I agree. I won't let my kids watch Disney, either. It's gone Woke, promoting discrimination and racial hatred. It also supports the sexualisation and mutilation of young children. Besides some it's own employees have been caught human trafficking. So at least in that, you and I agree!

    • @milliebanks7209
      @milliebanks7209 2 роки тому

      The Censored M: There you go again believing every thing you read about the Bloody English! If you would study their history you would learn that they are the most hateful people I know! I'm beginning to realize which one of your muscles is censored.!

    • @MatiasGeraldoThe2nd
      @MatiasGeraldoThe2nd 2 роки тому +7

      I bet you’re super fun

  • @MatiasGeraldoThe2nd
    @MatiasGeraldoThe2nd 2 роки тому +9

    I just LOVE 90s/early 2000s documentaries. It was definitely not marketed and designed for the stupid reality show pawn stars tmouth breather type of crowd. Was just information and history. And HISTORIANS talking at length about things. Oh how I miss it. I was just a bunch of flash and stupidity and very little infor by the end of it. All entertainment.

  • @ArmenianBishop
    @ArmenianBishop 3 роки тому +11

    Pocahontas lived at the dawn of the 17th Century (1595-1617); now, in the 21st Century (2021), we have the Virginia Pamunkey Reservation, but most of them don't look like First Nation People. After 4 Centuries, Powhatan Ancestry can be tenuous.

  • @Candy.A.
    @Candy.A. 2 роки тому +24

    None of these documentaries are done from or by an Indigenous worldview. I'm sure many things/facts have been misrepresented

  • @hollytreacy924
    @hollytreacy924 3 роки тому +14

    This is a very dated interpretation.

  • @astrohaterade
    @astrohaterade 3 роки тому +31

    Disney just stepped all the way out of the comments.

  • @mymymy9452
    @mymymy9452 Рік тому +1

    *A Black American once told me American History is blood filled but its my home and no one can tell me otherwise, as l look forward hopeful for a blood free future....*

  • @lgrace3874
    @lgrace3874 Рік тому +4

    I must have missed this episode of 90-day fiancée.

  • @AngelPhoenix5
    @AngelPhoenix5 3 роки тому +15

    She was our first MMIW (murderd and missing Indigenous women)

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 3 роки тому +2

      😢

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      She didn't go missing and she was not murdered. Her dad knew that she had left with her husband. And in fact they were leaving England to return to Virginia when she got sick and eventually died.

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 2 роки тому

      Is this like all those "murdered transwomen" that was not murdered for being trans? If there are murdered and missing indigenous women they probably were not murdered by white men.

  • @nowleta
    @nowleta 3 роки тому +39

    He already has an American accent when he opens the instructions that was quick

    • @JP-zy3er
      @JP-zy3er 3 роки тому +6

      ... because he’s a distant relative of Joe Exotic...

    • @kenzieoliver14
      @kenzieoliver14 3 роки тому +4

      And why is he wearing a conquistador helm? I thought they where English?

    • @hancehanson4000
      @hancehanson4000 3 роки тому +3

      @@kenzieoliver14 every major european nation of that time-period had those crescent-&-crested/bladed styled helmets; not just the spaniards...

    • @ML-jw4cd
      @ML-jw4cd 3 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mackiewilliams3524
      @mackiewilliams3524 3 роки тому

      Lmaooooooo

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +15

    I think it was heartbreak that truly killed her. depression makes it more difficult for the immune system to fight off illness.

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +17

    So, in England, she was basically exploited. She was basically a sideshow exhibit. She was miserable, and died young.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому +3

      She was famous, but home sick, and Rolfe and her set sail to return to Virginia, and that's when she got sick then died. Never made it back.

  • @luthahvelken4653
    @luthahvelken4653 3 роки тому +6

    there were no white americans in the 1600's, they were british. They remained british until 1776.

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 2 роки тому +1

      There were no British either.........you probably mean the English (And Scottish)

  • @RoaroftheTiger
    @RoaroftheTiger 3 роки тому +6

    This truly is a Universal story. I met my "Pocahontas", in Vietnam. Some things never change. I'm a Great - Grandfather now ... She passed Two Years ago. The Children, Her "gift", to me.

  • @DrNatemiester
    @DrNatemiester 3 роки тому +32

    I'm always wanting for Timeline to put the orininal documentary production dates on these videos. #timeline

    • @Lora_M_NY
      @Lora_M_NY 3 роки тому +3

      Nathaniel Smith i was just coming here to see when this was MADE! It’s crazy good quality at least to me it is, which confuses me cuz the people just seem very early 2000’s

    • @muggleintheupsidedown
      @muggleintheupsidedown 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lora_M_NY that’s what they meant by production dates. Same thing lol

    • @phoenixwombat6808
      @phoenixwombat6808 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@Lora_M_NY So I got really curious of when this was made as well since basically all the information within seemed misinformed and dated compared to what we know today about Pocahontas. So in my annoyance I did some research. Granted it took me forever (ok... actually about an hour and a half of research) but I finally discovered that this documentary was made in 2008. And was originally titled
      "Pocahontas and Captain John Smith - Love and Survival in the New World"

  • @chrishunt9931
    @chrishunt9931 2 роки тому +6

    James wasn't the British king, he was king of Scotland and England, they were separate kingdoms at the times, they also wouldn't have used the Union flag on the ships.

    • @Mark64W
      @Mark64W Рік тому

      If I may add , the man that reads out the statement about John Smith being released early in the video , would never have an accent like that . He was supposed to be English .
      Having said that , I did enjoy the whole video despite a few mistakes here and there .

  • @hashtag415
    @hashtag415 3 роки тому +8

    I entered ten puns in a pun contest hoping one would win.
    No pun in ten did.

  • @sunshinekomaransky3426
    @sunshinekomaransky3426 3 роки тому +12

    I love history

  • @robbieevans6536
    @robbieevans6536 3 роки тому +5

    I spent a lot of time in my youth on creeks and rivers of the Chesapeake in Winter and Summer, and I don't think the water level changes due to the seasons. It does change a little and the salinity level rises when there is draught conditions. Also tidal conditions affect the salinity levels. There is going to be mosquitos on those tidal creeks in the Summer.

    • @timothymcrae77
      @timothymcrae77 3 роки тому

      This was hundreds of years ago before any kind of construction or industrial development in the area. The tides and water would undoubtedly be very different from today.

    • @robbieevans6536
      @robbieevans6536 3 роки тому +1

      @@timothymcrae77 Yeah, the water was cleaner and there was much more food in the bay, but I don't think the tides were any different. Maybe you could ex[lain that one to me.

    • @timothymcrae77
      @timothymcrae77 3 роки тому

      @@robbieevans6536 Sure thing. For one, the town I live in today was moved in the 1920's because where it was then is now about 300 below water because of a dam.
      Many parts of what is now Washington DC were once a big swamp or literally a lake. But we dredged it, cleared, and filled it with dirt. Many parts of the Mississippi River are as far as a mile away from where they flowed during the Civil War.
      Humans have an impact on the world. It happens.

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 3 роки тому

      @@timothymcrae77 true but who has changed the tides(other than the moon)?

    • @timothymcrae77
      @timothymcrae77 3 роки тому

      @@lindamaemullins5151 What?? That's exactly the point. The tides came in further or not depending on the season and also the month. Thus the salt water.. I'm confused as to what you're asking?

  • @betultastan8974
    @betultastan8974 3 роки тому +21

    I am confused, what happened the other baby she has when she was captured. I am not talking about the her son, the other one before she become rebecca.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +4

      Part of the sketchy details. I was going to ask the same.

    • @dianekennedy7086
      @dianekennedy7086 3 роки тому +5

      I am a direct descendant of Nicketti, the niece of Pocahontas through the Nathaniel Davis family. There is an old family oral history that says that Nicketti was actually the child f Pocahontas and John Smith, and not her niece. It was just covered up. Whether that is true or not and whether it applies to this situation remains to be seen. I can tell you that My grandmother looked much like Jane Rolfe (granddaughter of Pocahontas, wife of Robert Bolling) and Virginia Jefferson Randolph (granddaughter of Thomas Jefferson), herself a Pocahontas descendant on her father's side (Thomas Mann Randolph Jr.).

    • @dianekennedy7086
      @dianekennedy7086 3 роки тому

      I just checked, and there was also speculation that John Smith and Pocahontas may have had a son named Peregrine Smith. This has never been conclusively verified; Peregrine Smith is not recognized by the Pocahontas Society. However, I'm glad to see the historians are finally opening up to the possibility of Pocahontas having another child besides Thomas Smith Rolfe.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому

      @@dianekennedy7086 Have you had a dna test?

    • @dianekennedy7086
      @dianekennedy7086 3 роки тому +3

      @@graceamerican3558 Yes, I have. I ran a search for "Powhatan" on my DNA test results this morning, and came up with twenty-seven matches. Most of the matches understandably were for Nicketti (sometimes spelled "Niketti"), but three in particular pertained to Pocahontas. Of those three Pocahontas matches, two pertained to the Barnett family line, whom the Pocahontas Society does not recognize either. But here is where the "plot thickens" so to speak. On my grandfather's (not my grandmother's) side of the family, I found a match for - you guessed it - Peregrine Smith, shown as the son of Pocahontas and John Smith. That's probably why I missed it - I was looking in the wrong place. I ran DNA searches on the maiden names of some of the women in that line, and it seemed to ring true. But I doubt the Pocahontas Society ever recognizes Peregrine Smith. In their eyes, you have to be a documented descendant of John Fairfax Bolling (great grandson of Pocahontas and John Rolfe) to be a member of that organization.

  • @LivingEpicness1
    @LivingEpicness1 3 роки тому +6

    That little girl in blue didn't look happy on being on camera.

  • @JuanJohn013
    @JuanJohn013 3 роки тому +4

    My ancestor was from Inca and Spaniard royalty which is crazy

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +37

    She didn't "decide" to become an Englishwoman, she was KIDNAPPED, she didn't have a choice. They never let her father see her, and she was sad and miserable, to the point of being sick, all of the time.

    • @luthahvelken4653
      @luthahvelken4653 3 роки тому +7

      please show the data that proves your point. were you there? or are you just repeating the propaganda that you decided to believe?

    • @rocnoir4233
      @rocnoir4233 3 роки тому +9

      @@luthahvelken4653 Grow up

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      @@luthahvelken4653 he's repeating the propaganda random people decided to make up. Even though they weren't there, and did not know her.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      The reality is that pocahontas cared about the English people and saved them multiple times from her tribe.

    • @shannonmayer18
      @shannonmayer18 2 роки тому

      @@thecensoredmuscle563 You are dead wrong. You believe the lies they taught you in elementary school. Read a damn book. She may have cared about them, but then they betrayed her trust, kidnapped, exploited, and may have raped her

  • @yolandamoralez7223
    @yolandamoralez7223 2 роки тому +3

    She was only ten when John Smith and Pocahantas met,so there could not have been a Romance

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      That's the youngest guess, there are other accounts on how old she was, the oldest I've read from the history Channel website was 13 when she met Smith. That would make her about 15 when Smith left. We don't really know. But one thing is for sure, she looked older than 19 or 20 in her painting, which would be the age that she was if she was 10 when meeting him.

  • @44Lemurian44
    @44Lemurian44 3 роки тому +32

    I will come to your neighborhood, plant my flag, and claim by the grace of my god, sovereignty for my use and profit.

    • @thelivingrisi7233
      @thelivingrisi7233 3 роки тому +5

      And then have a nationwide tantrum when accused of racism in 2021.

    • @novemberwallace7059
      @novemberwallace7059 3 роки тому +4

      A great Chief once said white man can say they own mother earth but we came from mother earth when we all die we will all go back to mother earth so who owns who mother earth owns us all

    • @Monkeydaddy42O
      @Monkeydaddy42O 3 роки тому

      @Baba Gandu that’s extremely racist

    • @Monkeydaddy42O
      @Monkeydaddy42O 3 роки тому

      @@thelivingrisi7233 why not just go ahead and say you’re racist

    • @eddiestanford7308
      @eddiestanford7308 3 роки тому +1

      Your comment, and the narrative of this video, come from a misinformed, or deliberate retelling of historical facts. The settlers did not, as the narrator put it, come with military force, looking to take whatever they wanted. They came as a people looking to get out from underneath the oppressive feet of the king. They had only a small contingent of soldiers to protect from the unknown of who might oppose their presence. And despite only trying to survive in the early months after their arrival, the natives did not receive them kindly. They distrusted the settlers, obviously, which, in turn, naturally lead to a distrust on both sides.
      From that point on, it was about survival by any means necessary, from both sides. And in so doing, there would certainly have been atrocities that occurred, as desperation tends to turn people into animals, unless they have very strong faith in God. This process repeated itself throughout history, all over the world. There weren't teaching courses to learn new languages that no one had ever heard before in their own countries. So, whenever people from "new worlds" met, it really was like meeting someone from an entirely different world. Completely different languages, cultures, appearances, everything. This surely made understanding between the two parties very difficult.
      Revisionist "historians" frequently retell stories of white men just showing up and taking everything. That simply is not accurate. This narrative is all part of the same garbage that gives birth to critical race theory. It's all about planting seeds of hatred between all of us. The sooner we all let go of our emotions and start looking at historical facts, and asking genuine questions, the sooner we can have peace in this country.

  • @cassieoz1702
    @cassieoz1702 3 роки тому +12

    Why does Captain Newport have an American accent?

    • @gmailuser3377
      @gmailuser3377 3 роки тому

      😂

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      American accent is closer to the accent for England back then. It was the English who changed their accent after the United States already became a country. I actually learned this while studying in England.

  • @novemberwallace7059
    @novemberwallace7059 3 роки тому +7

    She married John roleoff

  • @jamietaylor4322
    @jamietaylor4322 2 роки тому +3

    ROMANCE?! SHE WAS 9!

  • @DanielWhyborn
    @DanielWhyborn 2 місяці тому

    ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC

  • @desertdragon2397
    @desertdragon2397 3 роки тому +12

    Thank you for the reminder, we need to know where we have been, so we know which way to go. Hopefully learning from mistakes, never to repeat.

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 3 роки тому +2

    Plymouth has always been a major city, it’s been a Navel City for over 500yrs, it’s where Sir Francis Drake first spotted the Spanish Armada while he was playing bowls on the Hoe, after London it was the 2nd most bombed city in England during WW2, nearly all of Britain’s nuclear weapons were stored there on the Tamar River (we still have some but Britain’s nuclear weapons have been spread out now holding them in several different places instead of just one city). It’s a city full of history and I love it, I was born and raised there. Or are they talking about one of the Plymouth’s in America?

  • @samalo2953
    @samalo2953 3 роки тому +9

    Why does Dan snow's face and voice have to be in the beginning of every podcast and video ?? I find it very off-putting😒😒 . I think he likes the sound of his own voice way too much!

  • @nicolahurlstone7927
    @nicolahurlstone7927 2 роки тому +5

    Princess Matoaka is my ancestor, She never married for love she was kidnapped . She was taken to England to show the west how savages could live with what they called normal people .

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 2 роки тому +3

      How did you know she didn't marry for love? You got a source? It wasn't Rolfe that kidnapped her, he was just a farmer.

    • @shazanali692
      @shazanali692 Рік тому +1

      So you are also related to Edward Norton

  • @hughjanus5336
    @hughjanus5336 8 місяців тому

    Contrary to Disney’s portrayal of this well-known ‘family film,’ the true story of Pocahontas is not one of a romance, but a tragedy. Pocahontas was one of the first real-life Missing, SA and Murdered Indigenous Women (MMIW).

  • @jensennew
    @jensennew 3 роки тому +8

    Shame on you, Timeline. So many of your other documentaries are really good. This one is an ahistorical embarrassment. Basically a John Smith puff piece. I know you can do better because you have so often done better.

  • @cathleenshlagel8246
    @cathleenshlagel8246 Рік тому +2

    Pocohantas is my 13th great grandma. She married kocoum and had a child named kaokee with him. Kaokee is my 12 th great grandma. They killed kocoum. And tricked Pocohantas….

  • @incasolja1
    @incasolja1 3 роки тому +12

    if one more historian stupidly calls us indians.....smdh

  • @tgmccoy1556
    @tgmccoy1556 3 роки тому +18

    My late wife was directly descended from Pocahontas and Nancy Ward Fivekiller who did an amazing amount of peace and healing with the Indians and the White settlers.

    • @jimmyjamzzz3046
      @jimmyjamzzz3046 3 роки тому +4

      Healing? There was never "healing". When do you think that happened?

    • @tgmccoy1556
      @tgmccoy1556 3 роки тому

      @@jimmyjamzzz3046 look up Nancy Ward. ok?
      She's well documented.

    • @jimmyjamzzz3046
      @jimmyjamzzz3046 3 роки тому +5

      @@tgmccoy1556 Go look up the modern day relationship of the US Government and Native American Tribes. Really not that great. Also one person can "heal" a genocide, like she speaks for every tribe and all the atrocities. I'm not following your logic at all with naming one person and saying everything is fine and dandy.

    • @tgmccoy1556
      @tgmccoy1556 3 роки тому +2

      @@jimmyjamzzz3046 l did not say that. Nancy Ward was a tribal leader she prevented a lot of blood being spilled bon both sides. To this day she is held in high regard by the Cherokee. Again look her up I'm not going to fight.
      I'm fully aware of the issues facing Native Americans my paternal
      Grandmother was Eastern Cherokee.

    • @klmbchr13
      @klmbchr13 3 роки тому +1

      Im supposedly related to her as well. I just got this news through a DNA website but how can you really know?

  • @Gotherine
    @Gotherine 3 роки тому +25

    she was twelve
    she was taken as a hostage
    way to go colonialism

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 2 роки тому

      She was not twelve when she was taken hostage though....she was a born in 1595 and taken hostage I think somewhere between 1611-1613...that would make her 16-18 at that time.

  • @terrywright6269
    @terrywright6269 2 роки тому +2

    They didn’t love each other she was Tin actually

  • @Summer_Snows
    @Summer_Snows 8 місяців тому

    Disappointing but not surprising to see that this documentary completely glossed over the horrifying nature of the English presence and the way that Pocahontas had very little say in anything that happened to her. She did not choose to abandon her family and culture to go gallivanting across Europe of her own accord

  • @alspaughstaci
    @alspaughstaci 2 роки тому +1

    Sheshe already had child by time she met John Smith with kokomo one of her native chiefs

  • @Tcrim354
    @Tcrim354 3 роки тому +2

    Time well spent.

  • @bronxbearbud272
    @bronxbearbud272 3 роки тому +2

    And as an old Vaudeville tune once queried, "Who played poker with Pocahontas after John Smith sailed away?"

  • @buddha1736
    @buddha1736 3 роки тому +14

    I live 100 yards from where she is buried. 😀😉

    • @deborahasher176
      @deborahasher176 3 роки тому +4

      Her remains should be brought back to the US. Shame on England for not allowing it.

    • @buddha1736
      @buddha1736 3 роки тому +6

      @@deborahasher176 Shame on the USA for treating its indigenous people like, 💩 She be much safer and more respected in England, after all she did married an English man.

    • @markmoreno7295
      @markmoreno7295 3 роки тому +4

      Say a prayer at her grave,, for those of us living in the USA who are sadened by this portion of our history, yet not responsible for it. By honoring her, we might diminish the treatment leveled on her and her people. RIP

    • @buddha1736
      @buddha1736 3 роки тому +3

      @@markmoreno7295 I will mate, she is very well looked after here in my home town, both by the Tourist and town folk, one love ❤️ to you my friend. 😍👍🏻

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 3 роки тому +4

      @@deborahasher176
      Why? US are most responsible of everything bad that can be related to the native inhabitants.

  • @anniefinch6843
    @anniefinch6843 Рік тому +2

    I remember this movie and it's on Disney plus. But people are right about Pocohontas. It's fake but still it's a great animated movie.

  • @anubis5787
    @anubis5787 2 роки тому +1

    How true is this.

  • @sarahvanorden670
    @sarahvanorden670 3 роки тому +8

    When was this made? I’m very confused because the Jamestown settlement had to resort to cannibalism and yet they said the worst thing people are in the starving time was horses....

    • @usagi32211
      @usagi32211 3 роки тому +1

      This was made 2009 (I would've guessed the 90s from some of the hairstyles). It looks like the first actual evidence of cannibalism was found a few years later.

    • @dougthompson5586
      @dougthompson5586 3 роки тому +2

      they would have eaten the dogs before they resorted to cannibalism

    • @sarahvanorden670
      @sarahvanorden670 3 роки тому

      @@dougthompson5586 Oh they did, but the fact that said the worst thing they had to eat was their horses... when they had to eat other people

    • @GabrielNicho
      @GabrielNicho 2 роки тому

      @@sarahvanorden670 It's not that "they" ate other people, a couple of individuals did, and they were executed for it. (This has always been in the documentation).

  • @novemberwallace7059
    @novemberwallace7059 3 роки тому +4

    She was my great great great great Grandmother on my Indigenous dad's side

    • @novemberwallace7059
      @novemberwallace7059 3 роки тому +3

      Thing is white man doesn't own our land mother earth owns us so one day white man will get a rude awakening

    • @rocknrolldoll5219
      @rocknrolldoll5219 3 роки тому

      @Baba Gandu history is obviously an enigma to you.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      @@novemberwallace7059 Earth is not a mother, nor thinker, earth is a creation that's basically rock, and created by God in a way to keep us alive.

  • @HistoryLover1550
    @HistoryLover1550 3 роки тому +5

    Though dated and inaccurate, this documentary is interesting to a degree, The true story though tragic in contrast to the romanticized retellings that have been told to the present day is more incredible. I read a biography in Middle School about Pocahontas more factually researched than this.

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому +2

      The problem with your statement is that they have no actual evidence to say this video is dated. Recently people just decided to make up a random narrative about it. Even though John Smiths recount has the most credibility, as he was there and is the one that made pocahontas famous to the world.

    • @allanx2010
      @allanx2010 2 роки тому

      Schools are now tainted w/ woke garbage.

  • @melis2645
    @melis2645 3 роки тому +2

    If they are looking for a Pocahontas for a film I hope they look at my pics 😂 I wish I was an actress

  • @betsyroy6269
    @betsyroy6269 Рік тому +1

    I am a direct descendant of Pocahontas through Robert Bowling and Jane Rolfe.

  • @edwardelkins8723
    @edwardelkins8723 2 роки тому

    I am not sure why it’s not clear but when I researched my family history Jacob Jacobsen Elkins was the first in command over the Virginian Albany colony. Also Henry Elkins was first to set foot on land from New Netherlands Trading Company. New Netherlands trading company hired Jacob Jacobsen Elkins to do the first negotiations with the Indians. Captain John Smith was replaced by an Elkins I am not sure which Elkins there was three Elkins involved with the New Netherlands trading company. Henry and John Elkins each were explorers with their own ships. Henry hired to find passages up the rivers and bays of New York and John I think had the task of carrying the first passengers of the Dutch. Jacob Jacobsen was English but he was hired to do negotiations for the Dutch because he learned the Indian languages. He was first in command at the Virginian fort in Albany. There is documents that state a captain Elkin or Elkins replaced John Smith. My grandfather was soldier who owned his own ship the Jubilee , A different Henry Elkins who came to Boston 4 years after Boston was established, then moved to New Hampshire.

  • @coolguy1813
    @coolguy1813 3 роки тому +3

    Romanticizing the genocide of a people and a culture. Thats nice. Your channel has 3 million people looking to you for facts. Do better. EDIT: i DO realize that this is an older documentary, seemingly from the 2000's, however THIS video was UPLOADED 2021. this is dated, incorrect, and detrimental misinformation.

    • @dantheman6607
      @dantheman6607 6 місяців тому

      Nobody really knows but there was the potential for love ❤️

  • @dresqueda
    @dresqueda 9 місяців тому

    This script is inaccurate in so many ways. The opening lines refer to Metoaca as a princess. That should provide a cue as to the perspective and purported facts. Her mother was a Patawomeck (as in Potomac River), while her father was Powhatan (his real name was Wahunsenacawh). Eastern nations were matrilinial. Metoaca was Patawomeck and her nation was part of the Powhatan confederacy. She was married to John Rolf as a means to cement an alliance between the Patawomeck and English against the overpowering Powhatan nation. I am a direct descendant of John Rolf and Metoaca, through their son. Metoaca dies in London, age 21, and she is buried at Graves End, outside London. She had been eager to return to her nation, prior to becoming ill.

  • @shelbylewis2640
    @shelbylewis2640 Рік тому +1

    Apparently she was Edward Nortons 12X great grandmother 😅

  • @alaskamadelin1236
    @alaskamadelin1236 2 роки тому +2

    Why they painted her picture like she was a white woman,pretty sure her skin color must have been like when you mix coffee and milk together,sad story,I guess everything man touched they destroyed 😩

  • @pak_a_story
    @pak_a_story 3 роки тому +3

    Some Body
    Pocahontas and john smith

  • @labinthapa5957
    @labinthapa5957 3 роки тому +4

    Came for Elizabeth Warren comments ... didn't have to scroll that down lol

  • @ramonareyes2710
    @ramonareyes2710 Рік тому +1

    Famous last words lol

  • @infasis
    @infasis 3 роки тому +1

    As you can see here tobacco was so popular that even the dog people were smoking it.
    40:11

  • @Mark64W
    @Mark64W Рік тому +3

    Very good video and thanks for uploading .
    As regards descendants from Pocahontas I'm not sure if anyone has touched on Elvis Presley being one of them ?
    I know this from my own family tree research . Thanks .

    • @dreamcatcher5502
      @dreamcatcher5502 Рік тому +1

      What ?? Really ?? How can you prove this ? If true that's amazing !!

    • @Mark64W
      @Mark64W Рік тому +1

      @@dreamcatcher5502 According to my tree on Ancestry it's true
      Of course all the information is fed in by others so we just have to take their word for it .
      There is no conclusive proof .

  • @MsArrika
    @MsArrika Місяць тому

    what im left confused about is when did tomantic/sexual relations with individuals in their biologically developmental stages became something to be ostrasized???

  • @susierosido790
    @susierosido790 3 роки тому +3

    Honoring you for all you do. Susie from Bluegrass Land.

  • @berenicewaters4096
    @berenicewaters4096 3 роки тому +8

    Very interesting and informative. Thanks for the upload.

  • @JB-tt7oo
    @JB-tt7oo 2 роки тому

    I’m a descendant of John Roth. Also Daniel Boons wife Rebecca O’bryan. They later dropped the O and now it’s just Bryan. I have a Family Crest from England.

  • @tanyaedmunds3493
    @tanyaedmunds3493 Рік тому

    Worst thing they ate was EACH OTHER!!!

    • @Niic208
      @Niic208 Рік тому

      Europeans were doing the same, except drinking grinded up human shakes mummia

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 3 роки тому +14

    Good documentary. I wish I had came across these in college. Many of professors were idiots

  • @iantierney6905
    @iantierney6905 3 роки тому +1

    Let's not overlook she was a traitor to her people.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Рік тому

      Nobody knew how that was going to end, but a great story non the less.

  • @Seanadurana
    @Seanadurana 2 роки тому +1

    No one’s gonna even attempt an English accent??

  • @starlight2271
    @starlight2271 2 роки тому

    amazing , so intresting

  • @cynthiacarrillo5907
    @cynthiacarrillo5907 3 роки тому +1

    Alam mo kung sino ka tigilan munako. Pakasalan mo ang ang babaing kinakamo mo para sumaya yung toong pagmamahal...

  • @shannonmayer18
    @shannonmayer18 3 роки тому +4

    No, she was married to someone she loved, with a child.

    • @dkay5014
      @dkay5014 2 роки тому +1

      No she was forced to marry her colonizer he was twice her age she was a child tf

    • @shannonmayer18
      @shannonmayer18 2 роки тому +3

      @@dkay5014 I was talking about before she was kidnapped by the colonizers. In her tribe. She was already married.

    • @chamroeunphalmoul9172
      @chamroeunphalmoul9172 2 роки тому

      John Rolfe was the man she married with children. I don't think John Smith was married or have a child before met Pocahontas.

  • @slynner1111
    @slynner1111 Рік тому

    Pocahontas is my ancestor!

  • @InfinitJL
    @InfinitJL 3 роки тому +13

    There should really be a real life fact checked movie!

  • @acslatz
    @acslatz 3 роки тому +1

    The senior senator of Massachusetts?

  • @dommedanielle
    @dommedanielle 3 роки тому +2

    Symbol of peace or fetishized object meh what’s the difference?

  • @gungasc
    @gungasc 3 роки тому +7

    How did Ancient Aliens influence Pocahontas? Was she also an Ancient Alien?

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 3 роки тому +3

      Wrong shoe, wrong foot. As the Powhatan would have said: "The English are ILLEGAL Aliens on our lands!"
      "Homeland Security: Fighting Terrorism Since 1492."

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому

      🤣

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +1

      @@Otokichi786 IT’S A JOKE. Lighten up please.

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 3 роки тому

      @@graceamerican3558 I sentence you to view a significant video: "Come And Get You Love" by Redbone. There's even an acoustic version in "The Postman" movie.;) ua-cam.com/video/Dj0drevGOgA/v-deo.html

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 роки тому +1

      @@Otokichi786 I sentence you to read a history book but nothing after ... 1995.

  • @chanceyporter6178
    @chanceyporter6178 Рік тому

    John smith wrote fanfiction before it was cool

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 3 роки тому

    Wow I never the state of Virginia was named after Elizabeth Tudor aka Queen Elizabeth I aka The Virgin Queen aka Elizabeth Off With His Head aka Dizzy Lizzy

  • @-XKHAN-
    @-XKHAN- 3 роки тому +1

    Um, u left out Henrico County

  • @daBEAGLE1017
    @daBEAGLE1017 3 роки тому +5

    My wife is Menomonee Indian.
    Menomonee translates to "wild rice people" because that was a staple of their meals.
    Now she eats hamburgers.

  • @deeplorable8988
    @deeplorable8988 3 роки тому +2

    Good lord, where TF did you find these cheezy actors and narrative contributors? Just pathetic.

  • @Karlozmaxhsouzh
    @Karlozmaxhsouzh 3 роки тому +3

    If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1Jhon 1:8-9.
    Se afirmarmos que estamos sem pecado, enganamos a nós mesmos, e a verdade não está em nós. Se confessarmos os nossos pecados, ele é fiel e justo para perdoar os nossos pecados e nos purificar de toda injustiça.
    1 João 1:8-9

    • @christheghostwriter
      @christheghostwriter 3 роки тому

      It's amazing to me that there are still people who believe in Bronze Age fairy tales. Grow up already

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 2 роки тому

      @@christheghostwriter bronze age? The only begotten Son of God came during the Roman empire days. That isn't bronze age.
      Also what's amazing is how people are so easily brainwashed into becoming athiests. Its no wonder brainwashing ideologies like communism/nazism spreads in mainly athiestic countries. If you can convince a person to deny God, you can convince them into anything, even into supporting their own oppression.

  • @ramonareyes2710
    @ramonareyes2710 Рік тому +1

    Everyone must die! Lol