The Riddle of Caswell Bay: Maimie Stuart, 1920 by Mark John Maguire
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- When Maimie Stuart disappeared in 1920 it was widely believed that her husband George Shotton had murdered her... But without a body it was difficult to prove that he had done so. Did George Shotton get away with murder?
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That's in dollars $$, not comfortable with that. Can it be in sterling £££?
Well, I have something to say the Ghost/Spirit of Mr. S.! I have thought for him, "For his evil Deed, "St. Peter won't let him pass through The Pearly Gates! Mr. S. will be stuck in Purgatory, then most probably be sent down toward the 1st fallen Angel = Satan is waiting for Mr. S."!
@@dsd7004 And every where Ms. Maimie Stuart most likely was Haunting Mr. S., and made Mr. S. ever since he hid her body in that cave, was the reason why Mr. S. did something bad, that he twice was Gaoled during his lifetime!
You are quickly becoming my chill asmr to listen to to unwind before bed. Very interesting stores told in a calm soothing manner, without a bunch of distracting background noise.
Oh my . So emotionally taking with this Sad tale. Poor Maimie , her family , friends never having answers for so long . I wasn't excepting that she would be found. Thankfully she was & could finally be laid to rest. Thank you .
Yes, it is a poignant tale - her parents never lived to discover what became of their daughter; nor did most of her relatives - but it is some comfort that she was finally laid to rest 100 years after her death... Thanks you, Leanne
These are excellent. They "listen" like a podcast and are accompanied by visuals. My idea of perfect.
Thank you, Diane - i'm glad you think so! :)
Yes the I love the old photos, especially the wiggy wearers 😆
I always wondered how do those wigs get laundered ? Is it dry cleaners, quick steam over the kettle or are they now machine washable these days ? And if your Father was a brief....would he hand down his wiggy ????
@@ajalvin2012 that would make a video. Discussing police techniques from yesterday year.
@@patriciahughes4213 my grandfather was a village Bobby back in the 60s , clips around the ear was his model of policing, and my poor mother never had a boyfriend because of it🤣🤣🤣....
When the friend had distrusted Mamie and asked to see the marriage certificate, probably not because the friend distrusted Mamie but that the friend had probably thought Shotton was already married. As for the postman; IDK, some people can be amazingly unconscious, or not want to get involved, or purposely self-insulating, or they were going through a busy phase of their life, and only their long-term memory worked.
He really did get away with murder. And he was an old fashioned bigamist with two wives living quite close to one another. I have always been fascinated by this case having lived in Swansea.
I am sure she knew he was married and when he would spend time with with and kids - she got back at him by dating others.
I lived for years in Fareham, not far from Blackbrook Park, where his sister lived.
Found your videos and truly enjoyed watching or just listening to them.
I'm very glad - thank you, Lisa!
Well this is my third vid from you this evening, and I'm not going to gush over your skills and talents again. It will get boring for you, (jk of course!)
Just take it as a given that this channel is wonderful in all respects!
Well I am most grateful to you for your generosity in commenting, Bilinda! I am pleased you have enjoyed them!
A fascinating story. I appreciate all the work gone into locating the contemporary photographs as well as the detailed aftermath to the murder. I had read that Maimie's remains would be taken out for use in medical lectures then put back in that cupboard till they were needed again so it's heartening to know that she has, at last, been given a proper burial. An absorbing video.
Thanks again Debra - I am grateful to you!
I could listen to your narrative for hours. Interesting crime story 🤔
Many thanks, Jude
I love these presentations. I love how you express yourself. I love the stories you choose. all around great!
Do watch, this man is brilliant and precise.....
Which I have a bad migraine i listen to the story's has they send me to sleep and the bad pain go's away and then when I'm better i put them back on. So Thank-you for your story's i really enjoy them
Sorry to hear that - and glad it helps a little to listen...
Poor Mamie. I feel so sad for her. I hope he was haunted til his last breath. It's a relief that she got a proper burial near her loved ones.
Your narration and research into this is wonderful. Thank you 😊
What a sad ending....and yet uplifting too. Rest in Peace, dear lady.
Mr Maguire, you create a problem. Your voice is so melodious that I on the verge of falling asleep; but your stories so gruesome that I remain in a state of a sort of shock. This renders me to a woman with a drool and a twitch all at the same time.
Hahaha! Thank you and sorry in equal measure, Bernice!
Fascinating, Mark. I hope that you will consider 'reopening' the story of James Camb, the 'Porthole Murderer'.
These stories have taught me that it was very dangerous to be a women up to the recent past. Not saying ppl aren't subjected to abuse now, just pointing out that wealth or a woman's social status was really unimportant if she got in the way of someone with a murderous agenda.
You should be on radio 4! Thank you!
Thank you, Sal! I'll be sure and let them know!!
I think the letter in which he refuses to do what she asks because it would mean 'going down the wrong path' meshes well with the testimony that she had learned her marriage was not legal. It would be in her character (acknowledged as without morals) to demand Shotton dispatch his legal wife ... or else! So driven to the extreme, he dispatched her instead. I think it was he who did it - his work as a marine surveyor would lead him to look to marine maps for a mine shaft near the sea. I don't believe his chief emotion was now jealousy, but fear of the mess she could - and probably would - make of his life. His relation to his son is - in my opinion - likely to have been the critical factor. Divorce and remarriage was still a life-long career negative. It is also possible that her death was self-inflicted, or accidental, and all he had done was hide the body. As to the story of the old man... tales invented in the pub coming back to force the old guy to tell the same tale in public. It is very difficult to imagine the body sawn into parts within the flat. Any housekeeper would notice the sort of stains which require scrubbing and bleach to remove - and cleaning equipment isn't kept in a bedroom or bathroom but in the household's cleaning cupboards - normally locked by the landlady in those days.
*why* do you have so few subs? Although I see from comment scrolling that only 2 months ago, you had between eight or nine hundred and now you're whistling distance of three thousand, so I hope that exponential growth continues.
PS even if I weren't a true crime nerd I'd be here just to listen to you. Your writing is first class, it's so evocative, and you have an excellent voice for the narration. With the poor quality robo voices we are subjected on many of the true crime vids, your skilled narration is a joy to find.
Thank you, Bilinda - I am thankful to have a few discerning viewers! You are very kind indeed.
Very good! Poor Mamie... perhaps she didn't know she deserved better. The ending of this was happier than some, although it took a century to bring her home to her family.
I agree with you about how he must've worried and skipped heart-beats over this... for nearly fifty years. The rest of his life was burdened with his awful secrets!
I cannot even imagine cutting up someone I've loved and lived with... and then living with all of those memories jumbled together!
Such a moving story!!! He did get away with murder. But there is God and I wonder what that human beast said to our Maker!!! Thanks again for the video.
You could read the list of ingredients off the back of a cereal box and make it sound incredibly interesting.
Hahaha! You are very kind indeed! Thank you!
I keep getting interrupted listening to this, door bell, wife honyedos, telephone, e-mails, texts, toilet not working, roof leaking, air conditioners leaking condensate, tea kettles boiling over.
How sad for poor Mamie. Seems like she got the short end of the stick when she tried to play by society's rules and be a wife. It's fortunate for her that those men found her remains and she got the dignified burial that was denied her for more than 100 years. As always, a very well presented case. I look forward to more of these.
I am sure she knew he was still married and so when he visited his real family, she dated other men. She was no innocent victim in terms of marriage and she tried to make him jealous when he visited his wife and children. Unfortunately she succeeded in getting him jealous, but it didn't make him divorce wife and marry BUT instead killed her.
She was an out and out gold digger.
@@changeintheair9648 Oh, so that justified killing her? He could be a bigamist and have other character flaws, but she had to be perfect, otherwise, it was OK to kill her?
She had a bad ending, not deserved, and he got away with everything At least she could be buried properly and now rests in peace - I hope
he doesn’t.
What fascinates me is how did he move all that rock and rubble underground to hide the body? He looks like a wimp, he must have been stronger than he looked! Or the concealment wasn't as elaborate as claimed by the finders.Isn't it more likely he just chucked the pieces down the hole?
I’m glad I live in the era I do. Two wives? Well, screw that. I just might have become a killer! 😝😂🤣
'The bigamist and the deceitful good-time girl.' Incredible how toxic people find one another.
Truly excellent
Many thanks, John
What are the intro/outro musical themes?
They are simply a short piece I made for the series at the time I created the channel. They were my second attempt at one - my first was a little longer, played on guitar. My sister thought it too long and rather amateurish (I think she was right), so I tried to create a shorter one on piano, in a similar style and mood.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I think the piece is well written and quite moody as intended.
He'll be convicted in a bigger court.
The lady discovered in 1961.George could have faced the gallows...Tried for murder...Not sure about that because of his age then.
Luckily this did not involve the actor James(Jimmy) Stewart.
My cousin's husband John was the man who found the skeleton. He was caving on the Gower coast and discovered her. He went to the local police station and put the skull on the counter to prove his find
Hi Robert, that's fascinating...
Blimey!
Is that Johnny Gerke? He was a friend of my father. He went to the house of the local police officer (PC Barnett) not the station. He put the skull on a rib bone and carried it like that. I interviewed PC Barnett years ago for the book I was writing.
If I'm not mistaken that would mean that you are 4th cousin 3 times removed
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You are absolutely THE BEST true crime channel on UA-cam, I love and look forward to these videos. It’s the combination of the excellent scripts, your soothing voice and the on-point photographs and graphics - just brilliant! Thank you once again for all your hard work ❤️
Thank you, Jo - you are very kind indeed and I am delighted you like it!
grahamt33 glad to report I’ve done all three! I’m a TGAWM evangelist! Friends, family and now neighbours have been encouraged to subscribe and enjoy 🤗. Mark deserves a million subscribers 👏
Definitely! I wish he had more of them!
Yeah, are you a barrister or something? What is your background?
@@quickchris10 there's a brief bio on Mark's Saatchi art page, here; www.saatchiart.com/mjmaguire
Wow! Epic! I enjoy these tales so much that when I'm notified of the next one, I can hardly bear to watch it because then it will be all over! I make sure I have plenty of time, usually late at night, put a video of a wood fire burning on the television, dim the lights, get myself a drink and settle down for a dark true crime bedtime story... So enjoyable.
I know how much work each of these take - the research alone is immense, then the writing, the narration and putting together the videos, all labour-intensive - particularly the video which I know you had no experience of before starting this channel. Each episode the technical quality improves enormously. Your writing has always been first-class of course, and your narration is superb - your voice is perfect for it. Well done. The standard is exceptionally good for youtube true crime videos.
Thanks so much for making these. As other subscribers have said, you deserve a much wider audience than your current subscriber count. :)
@@grahamt33 And a wonderful reply! Hello Graham, I'm Mark's sister and very proud of what he's doing here. So when I say I know how much work is involved, I really do! Each episode takes hundreds of hours of painstaking research. But I can tell from your comments that you have a good idea yourself of how much effort goes into making these :). It doesn't leave much time for him to "market" or grow this channel, and I know he has no interest in the marketing side of things.
I'm not active on social media - I have joint problems that mean it's painful for me to click the mouse etc, otherwise I would help out by joining true crime forums etc (or whatever the latest thing is out there on the interweb!) and helping to promote TGAWM and direct more vintage crime fans to this channel.
Are you a member of any groups, forums etc on the internet? Vintage true crime aficionados seem to be a cut above the average contemporary crime pundits! Best wishes, Mel :)
Thank you, Mel! I really appreciate your taking the trouble to comment and at such length - and yes, you do know better than most how long it takes to produce one of these. I am satisfied that I have the best subscribers to the channel so far and I think it's important for me to appeal to aficionados of True Crime, rather than to "slasher" crime fans!
@@grahamt33 Hello Graham, as I said I'm not much of an online guru so I don't take part in any groups or fora (that's my guess!) etc. I watch a lot of youtube tho - I wonder if a good way to gather more subscribers is to go to other youtube channels - perhaps those that are covering the same cases (or type of case) and comment pleasantly with a link recommending this channel? As for off youtube, it's google searches and a bit of detecting I think! The forums that you mention that have a paucity of solid information might be a good place to let people know where they can get more and better information - here at TGAWM! I wish I could help more. All the best Mel :)
How can you put a video of a wood fire burning on your television if you're watching this? - Personally, anyway, I wouldn't want to watch a wood fire burning on my television.
She probably confronted him with the information that she had gained from the solicitor, that he had another wife. In an argument she probably told him that she was going to expose him.
She must have known he was still married. That explains why when he was with wife and children - she would date other men.
Blessings to the family descendant who made it her business to find Maimie's remains and bring her home to rest alongside her Mum and Dad.
Rip Maime.
Oh men,here you're again doing the things you do so WELL. Reading a they get away with murder case... with your gorgeously raspy voice. I love ❣Love ❣Love❣u channel.🥰😽🍃
You are very kind - thanks you very much!
863 sub.? ? ? You should have a billions sub.♥️🦋✊♥️😘
Many thanks indeed for your high praise! :)
Truth is the daughter of time: Maimie’s great-niece looks so pretty and vivacious, and she did such a beautiful thing for her great aunt by diligently searching out her remains and having them buried with dignity. Eventually, down the generations, justice was served and Maimie was laid to rest with her family, where she belongs.
It was a nice ending - almost exactly 100 years after her disappearance (and death) Harriet.
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@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I tried for years to get her remains buried but they denied they had them.
@@Griffin79821 Hmm - that sounds very typical of the insolence of office! All credit for you trying anyway - and at least she was eventually repatriated to her own, as it were.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I had been trying for years, even did a spot on TV about it.
Great tale. Maimie looks so sweet and sad. Quite a haunting smile. The ending gave some satisfaction though. Thanks for the upload. Looking forward to the next one!
Thank you - it is awaiting launch!
This is why I won't report my car stolen. I'll let whomever took it explain the body in the trunk.
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Oh thank you, thank you! The best laugh - maybe the only one? - I've had today. Thank you.
Wg- Nice one.
I was thinking that only Shotton had the motivation to take such trouble to hide her body so thoroughly, because if her body was found he would be the number 1 suspect. Anyone else probably wouldn't have bothered because they were unlikely to be in the cross-hairs anyway. Thanks this was a great story and your usual high standard of narration. Stay safe! Ted.
Thanks Ted - I know there is a theoretical possibility that another person could have committed the murder of Maimie, but it is too remote to give any serious consideration to. As you say, George was the only person to benefit from such a careful choice of hiding place!
Shotton wasn't stupid, he was a highly educated man with a very good job. His job took him all over the country so do you really believe that if he wanted to murder Mamie and get rid of the body he would have hidden the body a couple of miles from his home? He could have taken the body anywhere in the country and thrown it into the sea - after first removing anything that would identify her. It would never have been identified.
Showing photos of the area really help to bring the facts/story to life.
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Mr. Maguire has a great voice for this...love this channel..
Thank you, Susan - you're very kind to say so!
What a fascinating story! I was happy to hear that Mamie's remains were found, and justice finally served, and that finally, finally! someone cared enough to lay her wandering bones to rest. Rest in peace, Mamie.
I have been binging these on a long sleepless night.. Great job! I overlooked the recommendation for a while, as I prefer cases with an outcome, - when cases are unsolved, it leaves you with a sense of injustice.
But these stories are so well done, thoroughly researched, the style is serious and the narration is great! I hope this channel gets enough support to keep these coming, because they are so well done, and at the end of every story, you are left with the satisfaction of the answer most likely to be true, and the victim is being honored .
Easy subscription, I will recommend to my true crime friends. Thank you sir.
If you look at the rock a mans face clearly can be seen staring mouth open back at you.
These presentations are both deeply interesting and very well edited. The editor is to be congratulated for his skill, perspicacity and effort.
Shotton chose the house because of its closeness to the mine shaft. He had premeditated his killing since the separation in July. He reconciled with Maimie only to be sure to kill her and be completely finished with her. He knew when to go to the mine shaft without being seen. He knew there would be no risk. That is why he was so aloof at the trial. He had thought of everything.
I doubt he bought the house for mine shaft They were fine at the time.
Another very well crafted coverage of a long-forgotten crime.
I think that there is little doubt concerning the guilt of Shotton and the evidence is surely more than just speculative; ultimately though a modern day defence barrister would still feel compelled to label the evidence as circumstantial. I can well imagine Edward Marshall Hall having a field day with this one.
Now that DNA profiling has evolved to such a comprehensive level it would be rather easy to exhume the grave of Mamie Stuart and confirm her identity through testing mitochondrial DNA or genealogical profiling using a Paragon Nanolab facility.
It's amazing also what arm-chair sleuths ponder over, taking myself as an example. It's clear to me that Shotton had sufficient time to settle on a good disposal site and must have reconnoitred that mine shaft beforehand.50 feet is quite a long way down and, as you implied, only a desperate man would venture down its depths. How he made the descent and ascent was something I've thought about for a little while. Being of slight build and 6 months shy of turning 40 years old he surely had to use something akin to a rope ladder rather than a normal piece of rope to make numerous ascents through an 18 inch wide aperture. But anchoring the 'ladder' at ground level posed a serious challenge as failure to do so properly may well have resulted in him imprisoning himself below ground; UNLESS HE HAD AN ACCOMPLICE. You will remember that there were 3 pot-holers present at the discovery of the body and it's certain that at least one of them would have stayed above ground to effect a rescue if required.
I struck me too that even though he knew the lay of the land subterrain he chose not to push the body parts, (totalling 6 according to pathologist Bernard Knight), down into the hole but must have taken the time to LOWER them down gently. The reason I state this is that the skeleton upon examination showed no damage other than the obvious saw marks from dissection. If they had fallen from a height of 50 feet then numerous fractures and other significant damage would have been visible; but evidently none was found.
Just my thoughts.
Nick Harvey.
How very sad this case is. I’m so glad a relative managed to finally lay her to rest. I hope he had nightmares and did wonder if the police were coming for him for the rest of his life!!
It's scary to think such "normal" looking people turn out to be so devious and homicidal. Great Presentation
Lol how do you expect a murder to look? And what's normal looking
Lovely postscript about Mamies remains. Great video, as always !
Thanks, Peter - yes, it was satisfying to see Susie do the right thing by Maimie. It really didn't feel right for her remains to have been left in a cupboard in a forensic laboratory. She deserved better than that.
Oh, I'm so glad Mamie was finally laid to rest in her family's plot. Hurrah for her great niece. I'm so glad Mamie wasn't forgotten.
Thank goodness! Right about bed time 💤
Thank you, Kalina - don't have nightmares!
They Got Away With Murder 😂😂 I don’t!
Incredible so well put together totally professional thank you for all your hard work.
Fifty feet is a looooog way down in a narrow hole...in the dark most likely & getting back up & out of there again
Love your stuff ..... no loud music, no clips and pics of totally irrelevant junk, great voice, and content that is excellent. Thoroughly enjoying it. Cheers!
I had to translate some boring stuff today but your stories made the hours pass SO QUICKLY!
You're very kind - thanks!
Excellent!!
Thank you, Cassie
I just love your description of how George was dogged by the memory of his crime. I agree that people’s wicked deeds slowly chip away at them the rest of their lives. I’m glad he died rather miserably and that Maimie got the spotlight in the end.
Thank you very much, Annette!
The insanity of the body disposal is too much for my brain to handle...dang!
I look forward to your top notch investigations.... thanks
Many thanks indeed, Sam
I'm glad I've found these, intelligent, well written true crime well researched with excellent photographic support. I havent agreed with the conclusions of some of them but that doesnt detract from the quality.
From an old fart in the USA who’s enjoying your work, very well done my friend!! Liked and Subscribed!!
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Many thanks indeed!
Wonderful to see another episode. Many thanks. I shall watch it tonight along with my last episode of The Mind of MrJG Reeder. Well done Mark.
Many thanks, Paul
Very good again, Mark. He definitely killed her but I can't help wondering if, had the body been found earlier, he could have got off with manslaughter?
Many thanks, Paul. Yes, there must have been a good chance of this given a fair wind - after all, the cause of death could not be ascertained by 1961. Of course, if the body had been found in 1920 it might have been a different story - the cause of death might have been shown to have been strangulation, or to some wound which had not damaged any of the bones... But if the remains had been found at any point at which cause of death could not be determined he could have claimed that it was an accident. In 1961 the coroner D R James directed the 7 man jury quite heavily towards murder, saying it was inconceivable that he would have gone to such lengths to hide her body if it was an accident. I think it is conceivable - in panic and given the terrible situation he had placed himself in.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Thanks for the reply Mark. Yes, you are right: it would all have depended on what the post mortem showed. But I think he could certainly have escaped the accusation of premeditation An interesting case.
@@pauljones2255 Yes, I quite agree, Paul.
Where there any DNA comparison with her great grand niece? Will be interesting to knowing it
Probably the reason why the elderly postman didn't tell police before is because of his 'class' status. A lot of police refused to believe the common working person's testimony, claiming they were only after the 'reward' that was offered and no doubt the police had had many of these types of people come forward. They would've asked the postman if he saw what was in the bag and if he told them he didn't see inside, the police would've just brushed him off anyways.
I heard about this case some years back when The Discovery Channel profiled it . The presentation certainly was not as detailed as your presentation. There were 3 facts that I remembered form the Discovery Channel's presentation and they were 3 boys found a skeleton in a cave on the beach, the skeleton was identified by some sort of inscribed gold jewelry and the police visited the victims boyfriend some 40+ years later only to discover that he died some 3 years before. Being young, I suppose that gives you the license to live a reckless life and thinking there are no consequences to pay. This very scenario still plays out in the modern world. Last year my city had a situation such as this when a live in boyfriend of this Registered Nurse blew her brains out when she wanted him out of her house and by the way, he was married to a woman in the same neighborhood.
Yes indeed - I haven't seen that documentary, but my memory of the case was jogged by the recent internment of her remains beside her mother and father. Thanks for the additional information - I suppose variations on such crimes are still being played out all over the world.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Jonathan Goodman, a British crime writer narrated this case on the Discovery Channel some 20 years ago. I think he is deceased
@@creolelady182 Yes, I believe you are correct in both assertions!
First, the cave wasn't on the beach and they weren't 'young boys' they were men. One of them, Johnny Gerke, was a friend of my fathers and I remember standing in the kitchen and hearing him tell dad how he had found them.
Yet again another fascinating story, full of interesting facts and well narrated, looking forward to the next one thank you.
Thank you, Rosalinda - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Sounds like a thoroughly despicable character, he may have dodged the jury here but he will face a higher authority.
Doubtful.
Umm no he wont !
Nice thought but wishful thinking, I fear.
Oh, yes.
Beyond any reasonable doubt he will stand before God in judgment, as will us all.
Yet another fine narrative delivered by a master storyteller!
An evil end for poor Mamie, but it is comforting to know her killer kept landing himself in jail for other crimes, effectively ending any victory on his end.
Well done!
Thank you for these fascinating cases. They are very well researched and presented. I don't know if you are interested in any suggestions for the future but there are the cases of Tony Mancini (Brighton Trunk Murderer), the murder of Charles Bravo and also that of the Earl of Errol.
Thanks Jacqueline - yes, I do intend to tackle the Errol case at some point. The Charles Bravo case I have researched but it is so complex and long that I have had to park it with a view to taking a different approach.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I remember reading a quote about the Bravo case where a writer covering the trial said 'Now that she (Florence Bravo) has been acquitted she should have the common decency to tell us how she did it'
I can see how it would take you a while to untangle the various subplots and possible alternative solutions as to how (or even IF) Charles Bravo was murdered. It does look pretty conclusive on the surface though that Florence killed him, even if it was by accident.
@@Veaseify wrong trial, that was Adelaide Bartlett. Her husband died after supposedly drinking Chloroform. Florence Bravo was tried for poisoning her husband with Arsenic.
Another smashing tale! Thank you my friend thank you ❤️
Thank you, Sandra - it's good to hear from and I'm delighted you like it. I went to university at Swansea and know the beautiful area of Caswell Bay well - but it is only quite recently I became acquainted with the case.
Christmas in May! I was so chuffed to be notified that this episode dropped today. I've been jonesing since your last. By far my favorite True Crime podcast. 5 stars, indeed a Tour de Force of in-depth research, fascinating subjects, delivered with impeccable, smokey, smooth vocals; Thank you Mr. Maguire! God Bless. Big Fan.
Thank you very much - I am very glad to have delighted you!
@@grahamt33 yes I have in fact. There should be many of thousands of subscribers; this is by far the true crime podcast on here; best researched, edited, directed with the highest production values and one of the finest voices around. Mr. Maguire is truly impressive. We've got to get the word out. I will do my best.
I was giving further thought to your question and my own observation, that Mr. Maguire's Videos should have many thousands of subscribers by now; he is honestly my favorite True Crime podcast creator. Being on a rating and review on ITunes, Apple Podcast, Stitcher drives ratings and growth which then translates to huge increase in UA-cam Subscribers in addition to Word of Mouth growth It's also partly attributed to UA-cam's Algorithm no doubt and having the algorithm suggest
"They Got Away With Murder" (as was the case with me) to subscribers of other big true crime podcasts like Casefile, Briefcase, Curious World, Obsolete Oddity, Criminally Listed, Crime Reel and Unresolved. I notice those Pod Casters network off each other as well; so to speak to expand their viewership. I am going to continue to spread the word but to really drive up subscribers, the other methods truly drive growth from what I can see; especially if your videos get picked up by the UA-cam Algorithm and then get suggested to the hundreds of thousands of True Crime Subscribers. Mr. Maguire's Videos deserve it, especially as he adds new content. God Bless and keep it going because without a doubt your productions are Top of the list
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A number one! Humbly Yours a True Crime Crusader!
I felt a sense of peace at the culmination of this story so thank you for including the part about the great-niece who had Maimie properly buried, but then it made me wonder is it rare or common for bodies to be left in police storage? Are police not required to release bodies/bones to some sort of family? I guess with the huge passage of time it might have been hard for them to find a relative, rather than a relative seeking them out. Anyway, I really like these stories...fascinating, compelling & very sympathetic with no dramatic shocking techniques, just straightforward story telling. Great job!
Oh wow presents! Haven't watched yet, but as you are my favourite, I wanted to say thank you. I look forward to your smooth in depth narration and various theories. Always exciting and well researched. Stay safe Mr. Maguire. Your favourite canuck Geordie.
Thank you Georgie - and I hope you are staying safe now also as we seem to be slowly emerging from lockdown!
No, no, no. George Shotton did not kill Maimie Stuart out of jealousy. He did not fight with her out of jealousy. He could not bear paying for a woman who wanted joy outside of him. He could not bear the idea of a divorce with a settlement that would ruin him, and his first marriage and family. Money is the cause of the violence. Money is the cause of the killing. Maimie Stuart had become too expensive now that she wanted out. There was no passion, or love. There was lust on the part of Shotton.
Rest in peace now , Maimie...
For once I don't spend time watching something and end up feeling that it was, no matter how good sometimes, "a waste of time". It is as though I've read a fine bit of writing that is moving. In a world full of daily accounts of vile murders of countless people: singularly or in groups, you remind us of the singular importance of just one human life. Kudos!
Thank you, Gail - that's good to know! Very kind of you!
I believe the old mail man's story expect he didnt come forwad back then because, likey,he didnt want to get involved and may have been afraid. RIP Miami
There are plenty of old abandoned mines in Arizona however it's more satisfying to have the rattlesnakes finish the job.
This is a deeply tragic case. As for George Shotton;, sometimes Iife can be worse than death. I think he did suffer for the rest of his life because of what he did. It seems that his mother may have suspected his guilt due to what happened concerning her will. Poor Mamie lost her life and what did George gain from her death?
Excellent episode, Mark ! Thanks very much....
Many thanks, How - I'm glad it meets with your approval!
Why he wasn’t violent with his first wife? It might been an accident? We will never knew.
He may have been that people didn't talk about violence they just put up with it . Women and children were treated very badly in those days too.
Maybe since his wife wasn't seeing other men he wasn't jealous of her
This gives a person a new perspective when it comes to british law.
Many thanks, Debra!
Very interesting cases and very well researched.
Thank you, Margaret.
I'm very excited for your latest video. I adore Agatha Christie novels, and I feel not only like I'm receiving an in-depth history lesson when I listen to your work, but I am also learning what cases may have inspired her books. Thank you!
@@grahamt33 Yes, absolutely. He's one of my top recommendations for people who are looking for quality YT content.
Thank you very much, Elizabeth - I share your love of Agatha Christie novels and yes, she took so much inspiration from some of these old crimes which were so widely reported in the "golden age" of murder, if that is an appropriate term! She refers to many of them and often held her own opinion on the identity of the killer in them. Many thanks and good wishes to you.
I found this channel yesterday. I haven't stop watching since love your channel ! I love these old murder stories.
Thank you, Billie - I am very glad you like it!
I had a chuckle when they said that they matched the features of the skull to a photograph of the victim!! Wow! So all those skulls forensic anthropologists spend hundreds of hours (before computers) rebuilding using specific measurements and mathematic formula were a waste of time! They could just hold the skull up to a window with a photo and check off the matching features!! Amazing!!!
Yes - it makes you realise how far forensic science and technology has come, since the 1960s even, when we see the methods used then!
The Buck Rexton case is a study in the technique of superimposing x-rays of the skull onto photographs of the victim.
Steve Bengel I still doubt they use that method now. After all, without tissue on a skull, the faces look completely different. Even the skilled forensic anthropologists say that there are areas they have to estimate while reconstructing a skull. Science has become more exact now that they use computers, however.
That only works if you have something to compare it to.
All these true life murders are a fertile ground for any aspiring writer. I recognise many elements in the writings of Agatha Christie and others.
Yes - these crimes attracted a great deal of press coverage at the time and Agatha Christie was a keen follower of them, referring to many cases in her novels.
Yes indeed!!
She based one of her novels on the Greenwood case.
Habeas Corpus.
Another fabulous production! My thoughts: the Cardiff man that said he "was the last to see her alive" and she had hired an attorney to seek a divorce may not have been entirely untrue.
I think she may have well found out that George was married, either through the due diligence required by her solicitor to go forward with a divorce, or she, or the solicitor, may have hired a private investigator to see what George was up to when he was gone from her so frequently.
She strikes me as someone who would have confronted him, possibly tried to shake him down for a settlement in order to keep quite, OR (and I feel this the most likely) threatened him with telling his wife. ... Bang, you're dead.
Thank you - that is a strong idea. The reason I doubted the journalist's story, was that I have found him to be very unreliable in other instances. But, of course, that does not mean he was lying on this occasion. If he was telling the truth, or part of the truth, then she could have threatened him with exposure... I would like to see a little more evidence to support this theory before giving it legs, though!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Thank you for that extra information as having an unreliable track record would cause me to doubt, also. And, I fully understand needing "more evidence before giving it legs"! You present such interesting cases... it illicits an 'armchair analyst' response in me on certain points! ~Danyel
@@WildWestGal Thank you, Danyel.
Very much like your videos. You have a great narrator voice. And the story-lines are intriguing and well done.
Many thanks indeed.
I just found your channel in my recommendations. Amazing and thorough documentaries. Subscribed!
Thank you very much, Magdalena - I'm delighted you like them!
Such pleasure having a story read to me.
Absolutely love your voice.. by far my favorite crime channel 😁😊
Your videos are excellent well narrated one of the best crime Channels thank you. The day he killed maime was the day he destroyed his life. A crime of passion indeed 👍👍