Why do I start with 15 stitches? - Working from the closed end
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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Nailbinding is an ART. Each project is different and each artisan has a different result in mind. Dont get upset by the discussions. I love your channel, you are a good teacher and encourage us to make our own choices.
Interesting! I learnt the closed start as you do it, with approximately 15 stitches. I learnt it from a book by Mervi Pasanen - called "Med en Nål" in Norwegian.
Mervi's work is fantastic! I do love the way she approaches things, and how supportive she is of the community. She's been a big inspiration of mine!
I don't have anything to add on the nalbinding front, but I can say that there's a bit, or a lot, of maths in all sorts of historical craft work! It's worth taking the time to nut it out to save lots of time in re-making. Particularly this discussion reminded me of the calculation involved in getting mail garments like coifs, shirt armpits and elbows to shape smoothly without puckering or straining. The crowns of coifs and the armpits of shirts have some common patterns that show up across continents and centuries because there's only so many ways the rings will lay nicely.
Absolutely right, maille is a perfect example of this!
Thank you for these videos, I learnt a lot from you! :) With the help of your Nalbinding for beginners 1-4 videos I made a flat disk (after some failed attempts, when I ended up with "nipples"), and although you did not clarify the math in the increasing video, I increased exactly as you explained it right now. :) And it works wonderfully! It seemed to be the most logical way for me, because it is how I start anything round with crochet.
I'm so glad this helped you! 😊
Pat Wallace
Loved the video but regret I couldn't Naalbind while watching it. I've been knitting for 67 years so easy-peasy but the fingers are going so I'm counting on Naalbinding to be my next major 'thing'. Love it so far but need to do a lot more work on working from the closed end. Really appreciate I can see what you/ewe do, the detail of it, so I can follow. I also spin so can make the yarn I want.
Being familiar with a fibre craft like knitting will probably make the transition much easier, because you already understand how the yarn can produce material. York stitch is a good one for you to learn because it doesn't require as much manipulation of the stitches as some other types of stitches. I'm glad you're enjoying my videos!
I'm just starting with needlebinding and this was very interesting. I'm sure this information will defenitely help with wrapping my head around things in future projects. Thanks for making this! ^.^
You're welcome, hope it helps!
i'm personally interested in learning to work off the thumb. i wear acrylic nails which makes my already large (ring size 10) thumb even thicker, which makes my stitches much bigger and sometimes makes my garment more lace-like than fabric-like.
Well if York stitch interests you, I have a series of video in the tutorials playlist, where I go through working off the thumb! 🙂
I will definitely check them out!
Getting that maths right is part of the fun for me! Just a comparison, when I am doing the magic loop method with crochet I start with 6 for SC* and 12 for DC*. I think it has something to do with the height of the stitches and nalbinding stitches seem to me to be taller than DC* crochet! I have only worked tubes so far, this is a great spur to get me going on a nalbinded sock, Thanks!
*American terminology
I hope you have much fun with your socks!!
I'm so happy I found this! I had followed another sock tutorial and ended up with those boob socks.. I'm never going to use those. So this is awesome! I totally agree with you. A nice round end of the foot or hat, or no sock/hat at all. Those nips is.. bleurgh.. Now I'll go try with 15 instead of 8..
Give it a shot and let me know how you go!
I need to let you know: your videos for nalbinding are amazing and I have successfully made a chain, joined it, and worked in the round. I was going to make a mitten, but I made the start too small so I'm going to try again with a longer starting chain. Thank you!
I'm really glad you found them helpful! ☺️ happy stitching!
Thank you for a good discussion video and some nice examples! I'm fairly "new" to nalbinding (Well "inexperienced" might be a better choice of words... I learned nalbinding over 20 years ago. I've read a lot of books and articles, studied some archaeological finds and experimented with a lot of different stitches, but I haven't really made much over the years when it comes to actual garments, just a few hats, mittens and wrist-warmers - I'm currently trying to figure out my first pair of socks... 😅). On the other hand I'm very experienced when it comes to knitting, and I love how the two techniques are so similar, yet so different. 😃One thing that's pretty much exactly the same and very important for both crafts, but a thing that many seem to miss, is the importance of maths when making a fitted garment... Gauge, stitch count, increases and decreases in the right places - it's all dependent on relatively simple maths to get a consistent and good result. Of course you can just freehand as you go along (easier with nalbinding than with knitting), but it requires a lot more experience to get it right and most of the times you'll end up having a poorly fitting garment or just having to start over. With knitting that's easy - you just unravel everything and start over, but it's not as convenient with nalbinding... 😅 Measuring, calculating, planning and experimenting before you start making a fitted garment is key. A big difference between knitting and nalbinding is that in knitting you mainly work with a few easy stitches and the gauge is mostly dependent on the thickness of the yarn and the choice of needles, making it easier to reproduce consistent results between different individuals, whereas in nalbinding the differences in gauge also depends a lot more on what stitch and technique you decide to use and vary a lot more between different individuals. Also in knitting you can very easily make a test patch to calculate gauge and stitch count for your project, but with nalbinding that takes more time, resources and commitment, which is why I think a lot of beginners struggle with the maths when it comes to nalbinding. In knitting it's pretty easy to count stitches and spot increases/decreases you've made since knitting works in straight rows and columns, in nalbinding that gets a LOT harder for the untrained eye since the stitches go in straight rows and columns, but also diagonally and interlace with each other differently depending on what stitch you use - giving the brain a lot to process, especially when calculating increases and decreases... All in all, nalbinding is perhaps not very beginner friendly but it's very rewarding once you get the hang of it! 😁Thank you again for a great video! 😄I'll make sure to check out more of your content.
You're spot on! I have been a knitter and crocheter as well, and there is a lot of crossover, but figuring out *how* to apply transferable skills to nalbinding is tricky. Happy stitching! 😊
For some things like socks, I wonder why it's common to work in the round off of a rosette rather than start the toe by spiraling around a chain that's about as long as 4 toes in width which would give a flatter profile? Ditto for the flat part of the fingers section of a mitten. (I've found some annoying curling at the start, but can be worked back to a more flat profile once a few rows in while spiraling off of a chain.) With hats starting with a rosette makes more sense though.
Although the 15 count might be something to go with when starting my next hat with a rosette. I've had problems getting them flat on the top for the usual beanie shape. I've done others more creatively shaped though. And for stalking caps, it's actually a lot easier to start with a headband loop and shape them by dropping stitches - although I'm sure that's some other topic of discussion.
Of course no expert though, it's just a hobby. And I have some "backward index finger" method since I have trouble working off the thumb as well. I figure consistency matters more than method when it comes to the end result though.
All of these points are very valid and are things I would like to explore in future videos! Spiral starts are often easier for beginners, which is why I started making videos based on that method, but there are so many ways to nalbind, you should do what works best for you 🙂
Great job, this is really interesting.
While I'm sure nalbinding isn't on your radar very often for projects, I think the idea of working out the pathway to completion is one you're well acquainted with!
@@YlvaTheRed No it's not something that I have tried, but I do find it fascinating, especially the mathematics needed as discussed in this video.
@@PopulaUrbanum It's not dissimilar to the process needed to work out the proportions of hose, or tunics or any other piece of clothing, really. The difference is that when you have to make each individual stitch, rather than cut along a chalk line, you have to work out the maths manually.