@@thatoneaggressivegamer idk about ethics being objective. Just my opinion I'm not knowledgeable in this field. But as far as i know ethics is based on what a society decides on an ethical code to be. And this decision can change from society to society. Ethics was not the same as it is right now. Thus i think it isn't objective, it's subjective. (Again I'm not knowledgeable in this field pls don't take offense)
@@Po_124I'm definitely with you on this one. There definitely seems to be too much variation from society and time to consider them truly objective, even if one version was actually truly objective system. Besides in my experience people often use the word objective in different senses. I'm personally not really a fan of the word. Hence why I used qualifiers/modifiers for it in my post. I prefer to avoid it if possible, due to ambiguity. BTW, this is not meant as a comment on the poster or their usage of objective. Just my personal opinion.
yes, ethic means lawful, but the law can be made by anyone whom the common society lets in the administrative position. And by let, I mean being passive and in fear as some lunatic takes that responsibility and thinking is power.
Morals are subjective and change people to people. Ethics are usually more objective and are defined the experiences and decisions of a lot more people
@@tamas9554 Just because they're the experiences of more people doesn't mean they're objective. Objectively means in a way that isn't influenced by personal feelings or opinions. If the ethics are defined by the personal feelings or opinions of millions or even billions of people, they're still defined by personal feelings or opinions and are therefore not objective.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Yes, they do mean they are "more" objective because of that. Comparing the experiences of multiple different people is the best way to get rid of bias and shed light on problems one person wouldn't encounter alone. Like, this video kinda twists what "ethics" mean with the cartell example too. That one isn't ethical either looking from a non-criminal perspective. If anything, these organisations bend ethics to their own liking, or only keep certain parts. (like trying to leave out innocents from the trouble unless they ask for it)
@@tamas9554 I'm saying that no matter on many people you base it on, if the source is people's personal feelings, it'll never be objective *by definition*. There's no "more" or "less" objective in that case. Also you can never get rid of biases, you can only diminish their impact.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Thats not how it works. It is far easier to decipher the truth even from multiple differently biased perspectives, you just have to understand how people think
Transcript-y version for my future self. The vid is incredible concise and straight to point so not much of a reason to read this unless you wanted to copy this to your knowledge management system or smth. ## Morals - Principles that shape an idea of right and wrong. - Influenced by - Environment - Culture - Our belief system - They provide foundations for ethical systems. ## Ethics - SPECIFIC rules and actions that dictate what's acceptable behaviour. - More practical and less subjective than morals. - Also it is applied to more people in general, and morals are mostly individual-based. Main difference is that morals are personal principles people have, and ethics are practical rules and expectations for a specific group that they expected to follow regardless of their personal principles. What's ethical may not be moral and vice versa. --- Amazingly concise vid, great work man.
I don't know. The way I see it is ethics are by definition influenced by environment and culture... which are both shaped by the collective belief system are they not? I still fail to really see the difference. I see it as it's like differentiating between "gender" and "sex". You can make a case for it but ultimately it still feels like an argument for argument's sake. What do you thonk?
@@lungaskosana7546 Morals are personal, and ethics aren't. Something maybe morally ill for someone but okay for someone else, but if they view the ethics in that situation, they should arrive at the same conclusion. also, again, gender has a lot of definitions and stuff but sex doesn't. If different doctors see your body they will arrive at the same conclusion about what your sex is, but if the person says that that is not what they feel like their definition of gender is, well people nowadays are okay with that. Basically ethics are much more objective than morals. Obviously ethics are different in different places, but they are definitely much more objective than morals.
Morals: Murder is wrong! Ethics:I will not rat out my sister, the family should stick together . Dillemma: Iam however upset that she killed the rest of the family, i might be the next.😂
morals are influenced by personal beliefs, Ethics are based on a set of rules and regulations, Basically you're being moral if you're following your own code of being good, and when you're being ethical, You're following a code set by others of being good, for e.g Killing 1 person for 4 people is ethical but not moral
Interesting. Morals: from Mores, customs: the usual or expected behaviour of people. Ethics: from Ethos, character: a more personal disposition. At some point, these words have switched meaning from what you'd expect looking at their etymology.
Morals in this sense seems to assume that people share the same innate traits. Ethics seems to be about what has been taught or arrived at through reason. Nature and culture, feelngs and facts, what is innate and what is acquired. One is non-negotiable, the other is negotiable. So, your examples examine a specific dimension of the words, but they have more meanings when used in different contexts.
One possible dimension is that companies and other organisations ( like the Mafia), as "in-groups" , expect personal loyalty , through peer-pressure if necessary, from their workers, that stands "above" moral considerations of the general culture. And personal consciousness as well, which would be the trademark of "actual" ethics: Martin Luther's "Here I stand!"
Ethics is greek and morals is latin. It's only recently within living memory that these new definitions were applied, and they can still be pretty much interchangeable.
This only applies to the colloquial terms. When we're talking about philosophy/religion, the terms actually *are* interchangeable. Usually. "Moral Philosophy" and "Ethics" are pretty much synonymous academic terms. When a philosopher is talking about what is "Ultimately good" or "Ultimately bad," they usually won't draw a distinction between "Morals" and "Ethics," they will use the terms interchangeably. An action being "Moral" is also "Ethical". Also, even colloquially, if someone believes in a certain ethical system, that ethical system CAN BE their morality, and so the two terms in their case would be interchangeable. There's no functional difference between "Christian Ethics" and "Christian Morals," or "Utilitarian Ethics" and "Utilitarian Morals". So if you consider yourself a hardline Christian or a hardline Utilitarian, your Ethics will be your Morals.
Yes, this is mostly true. Philosophy do see ethical frameworks and moral frameworks as the same. There is some merit in drawing some distinctions between the two when it comes to how the terms are generally used day to day, in the work place e.t.c.
I always thought the philosophical distinction between morals and ethics was that ethics are like a system of basically “grading” the weight of actions with the same morality. Morality tells you things are good or things are bad, but no more than that, which is why you have ethics to decide “ties” or whatever you would call it when morality dictates two options are either both good or both bad. Like the trolly problem is a dilemma because by most systems of morality both options are bad, but it interrogates the ethical system a person subscribes to by asking which option they believe is *less* bad.
@@josephwilliams5292 Think of Ethics as a trinity of balancing positions, with morality/values being one portion of the collective balance. Morality is within Ethics, but Ethics is fundamentally between three different modes of categorization of distinction. Utilitarian, Value, and Principles: The first is the most good for the most people whether or not it brings some harm to others in the process, the most utilitarian option gives the most good. Values are morality, they're your personal understanding and how you live your life based on your own code, they are how you maximize the benefits in your life and minimize the harms. Principles are laws, they are what is set into place by those in authority to help regulate humanity in any given community or society. Think religion, that is principled ethics over utilitarian ethics or value ethics. The Ethics problem, including the Trolly Problem, is a theoretical exercise in balancing ethical conundrums as people try to steer the collective towards an ever better answer of how to persist as a society. Colloquially, this in turn makes Ethics to be the morally good understanding of how to bring the best benefit to society in the best ways, and to minimize the most harms while doing so. In summary, morality is tied within Ethics, but Ethics is a broader metaphysical equation of how to bring the most good out of any given problem while minimizing the most bad that can occur to the most amount of people possible.
That's the problem with religion. Religions have an ethical code that allows you to belong to a subculture and they state its an objective morality when it is not.
0:05 Morals vs Ethics. This video clearly explains the difference between morals and ethics in a fun and easy-to-understand way. The funny images really help illustrate the concepts!
Ethics is not law or rules. What you described is not ethics. Ethics are core principles one makes for oneself based on their experiences. "Omerta", in this case is a rule or law or policy.
So basically what u r trying to say is that it's acceptable for a psychopath to kill a person and still be morally and ethically correct??? given that ,morals are one's personal beliefs and sense of rightness.
Morals don't even have to be good at all. Ethical behaviour is heavily invested in being beneficial and non harmful. The second part even more so, ex. primum no nocere, lawyer criminal confidentiality (even though both are often immoral, they can be ethical) and so forth
This video seems much more like an effort to convince people to see things a certain way (that morals are good and ethics are - not as good) rather than to sincerely address the nuances of morals and ethics.
Ethics as used colloquially CANNOT arrive at "Good" by itself. The word "Good" and "Bad" are referring to Morals NOT Ethics, you view ethics through your moral paradigm and not the other way around. Morals are necessarily MORE 'important' to an individual than ethics (as used colloquially) in the sense that it is presupposed when talking about ethics.
@@ThePNGGUY 1) your reply basically confirms the accuracy of my comment. 2) the choice to only acknowledge the "colloquial" use of the words was _a choice_ - equally valid is the view that the words both historically and scholastically are functional synonyms, literally interchangeable, at least in some academic (and in fact, colloquial) settings. 3) putting those points aside, accepting the distinction that youve drawn and going from there, if morals are the abstract X = good/right and Y = bad/wrong value judgments each of us believe (for whatever reasons, some more or less defensible than others) then ethics would be the navigation of moral dilemmas and the application of moral judgments in the complexity of real life, where moral imperatives often pull us in different and even conflicting directions. If murder is wrong then what do we do with murderers? Is capital punishment an answer arrived at morally or ethically? Are lynch mobs morally or ethically justified? Or due process and equality under the law? What about abortion - when the mothers chances of surviving delivery are very low? How low do her chances of survival have to be for abortion to be morally or ethically acceptable? How about medically assisted sue-ee-side? Or in a broader sense, just the overall body of ethically-determined standards of best care practices in the various fields of medicine? It might seem that my personal (but abstract and for the most part, hypothetical) moral code is more important to me than the ethical standards of care followed by doctors but that may change _when I need a doctor_ Look, Im not trying to insult you or demean your work. But if I had to categorize the channel based only on this video and my choices were A) education - a thoroughly researched and unbiasedly presented explanation, meant to inform the viewer _as completely as possible_ of the important elements of a topic so that they can make an informed conclusion for themselves or B) propaganda - an incomplete and selectively presented explanation of a topic meant to convince the viewer to understand a topic in the specific and limited way that the presenter wants them to understand it, Id have to call it B) propaganda. The other option would just be a presentation made by someone who didnt bother to really learn the topic before making the video. The internet is flooded, saturated, polluted with way too much of B and C and really, _really_ needs more A) educators.
@@MP-db9swexcept you have no argument, as he defined the terms in order establish a base for the discussion. You're just attempting to redefine those terms. whuxb disallowes rhe conversation
@@thac0twenty377 your criticism indicates that you either didnt read or didnt really understand my full comment. But to critique your critique, I can "define the terms" of mayonnaise and mustard as "white stuff" and "yellow stuff" and while it may not be wrong, exactly, it wouldnt exactly be right, either.
@@MP-db9sw it's not a criticism it's an observation. he states colloquial usage to establish a consensual definition in which to discuss the topic. Reestablishing terns doesn't change the nature or validity of the argument. So in a sense you've proven my point
I always looked at it like morals are your own personal beliefs on what is right and wrong and in between and ethics are a broader system of societal norms on what's deemed right and wrong and in between. So essentially the distinction is that morals are much more induvial in nature while ethics are for society.
I'm not a religious person, but I follow moral guidelines. I think I have to follow them, because it's just what's right. Here's a tip for all those freaks on the internet out there, it should be universally known that you shouldn't Be hateful, or attracted to children or animals in any way.
To go a little deeper if you’re interested. “because it’s what’s right” is only an assertion, not a justification for the first assertion of you ought follow moral guidelines. Basically what you’ve just said is I follow what’s right because it’s right. It’s circular. Why is it right & How do you know it’s right? Ultimately what I’m getting at is that a lot of people vaguely understand these concepts but they don’t know what it means to justify and or ground a belief. They just “feel” that something is right or wrong and that’s it. This is understandable because most people don’t know much about meta-ethics. I just thought I could maybe spark your interest in philosophy a little deeper than surface level basics. (Btw I agree with your moral claims, only difference is that our groundings for those claims are different)
@ThePNGGUY You're asking for self awareness. That represents of internal debate just isn't in most people's capacity. Excellent discussion point though
From philosophy I know a different distinction. Moral: A belief system of value judgements used by a person or group Ethics: The science of moral system (what are they? how do they work? what influences them? ...)
Science to me by definition is the investigation of phenomena of the natural world. I cannot hold a gram of the "good" in my hand. There is no "science" of morality, unless you're defending that one util guys position, Sam Harris I think? Theyre synonymous
Great video, thank you :) I was unclear and thought ethics always was a stem of morals but from a much broader perspective with an unclear foundation. I now understand its a collective projection of its "morals" to elevate it to "ethics"/"ethical rules" standing. I am now even more against ethics then before though as "collective" implies to me it can be easily manipulated.
I've always thought of them the other way around. Morals are normative cultural dicta while ethics are based on personal beliefs and values. Morals are imposed from without; ethics arise from within. It's not impossible that something a person feels is ethical behavior could be construed as immoral by the community. By the same token, behaviors that society considers moral or even desirable may be rejected by someone who feels those behaviors are unethical. Legal illegal, moral immoral, and ethical unethical are, by and large, orthogonal axes.
Thanks. I believe all professional corporations (Orders) work in the best interest of their members. Just as lawyers wil not go against their clients (guilty or not). It is called Deontology. Which is, to my experience, a mafia in itself with an Omerta rule: evaluation by the peers is used to maintain any outsiders at bay. And minimised the going public and to minimise also the reprecautions on the professional misconducts as much as feasable.
I personally believe a culture decides your morals for you and proper ethics are a constant code learned in your adult life that SHOULD be universal. Morals are learned from parents or teachers and church where as your ethics are the created by the events and experiences which then guides you into the future.
morals- our belief system (personal beliefs) -> personal guiding behavior ethics- specific rules and actions (rules everyone should follow) -> Set of rules certain groups/people have to follow (ex docotrs) whats ethical isnt always what is moral.
So national laws are also ethics. Just that ethics can extend further than the laws based on the specific settings you activate in. Or they can be in conflict with. Basically conflict exists between morals and ethics, but also between ethics of different settings and even settings and subsettings ethics.
OK, time for real talk. “Ethics” is generally comprised of Values, principles, beliefs and norms. “Values” weigh the odds between damage and helpfulness “Principles” are sets of guidelines based on social groups and personal need to make decisions. “Beliefs” are things that we understand which can formulate our principles. “Norms”Are essentially where we land as a society in terms of what is acceptable and what is not which is subject to constant argumentation and scrutiny. Norms are the part of ethics that fluctuate the most so we fall back on social contracts that back up our principles in order to protect our values… That’s good John Luke Jean-Luc you’re doing well
I recommend following up with a video on why _both_ morals and ethics are needed for society to thrive (short answer: ethics are required for building and preserving societal trust, while morals are needed for times when ethics alone fail or can't advise in a specific situation). Also, cut down on the transitions moving forward. Try to limit yourself to one or two highly relevant visuals per statement. The multiple cuts per second you used here is very distracting and hurts the video more than anything.
They are literally the same thing. One is micro, one is macro. One is created personally, the other is created interpersonally. That's it. It is like sociology, studying how social systems affected an individual, or how they affected a group. The group just comes from a combo of individuals. Ethics are just what comes out of collective morals mixing together until something that works *well enough* comes along.
You have a unique definition of the terms. For example a belief system that exploits others is its self immoral as well as all the derivative law being unethical.
The twists come with subjective “morality”. Where there is no concrete ethical principles. It’s whatever the individual believes or wants to claim is moral. There is no objective right and wrong.
Morals = Principle or Idea of what's good; goal of goodness, an ideal Ethics = how to get there with rules; honor system Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
I remember asking that question to my religion teacher before the internet was big. The answer didn't really satisfy me, though I can't remember it. My gut feeling at the time was that our society sees "morals" as bad and "ethics" as good, even though they're kind of the same. Interesting video. Though I do feel it's kind of wrong, emphasis on kind of, I think the words do mean the same. The word shift indicates that there is a new dominant rule system although that happened long before our time.
No, they are not. Here is an extreme example and what is the answer according to morals and according to ethics. Scenario: The family is poor, has no means to feed another child. Moral it is not to abort the child. Not because whatever it is argued today but because you kill a potential human being that might pull the family out of poverty. Ethical it is to abort the kid and not put him through the same pains you have been. However, both are subjective. Morals are set by a majority. Ethics are rules agreed upon by everyone. Or if you want a less sensitive topic. I have ethics. I always deliver the item in a good shape. I keep my car clean and well maintained. When you are being professional, that is an ethic. You are not always moral if you are a lawyer but you are always ethical because being ethical wins you clients and money. Morals do not always win you clients, nor money. Ethics are pragmatic rules. Morals is an ideal.
@@s1os2s3 If "Morals are set by a majority. Ethics are rules agreed upon by everyone" then that to me creates a problem with your definition. Coz there's nothing I know of that's agreed upon by "everyone", thus both are actually dependent on majority by that definition. So they both are ideals the way you put it there. Unless I am misunderstanding your point. So to me after reading your paragraph, they still seem basically one and the same. It's like "gender and sex". You can argue for their difference, but to me it seems like arguing for the sake of arguing. What do you think?
@@lungaskosana7546 Lawyers are required to be ethic, not moral. Do you understand now the difference? Lawyers can represent and defend someone that commited a vile crime that the defendant allegedly did. Morally, he shouldnt defend him. Ethics have nothing to do with good or bad, ethics just are. Ethics are not restrained by morals. It is a code you create for yourself and business and if you want to do business with others you also have to respect theirs. Say I create my own ethics: 1. I leave my desk clean and always leave everything in order. I am not required to do that. The company has a cleaning lady to do that but it is one of my ethics to leave the place I use as I find it or if it is in disorder I make order and leave it in an order. It is a set of rules that people appreciate you for. You dont have to do X but you do it because it is part of your code. Ethics can be withdrawn if you feel like the person is stepping on your nerves. They are rules enforced by you, individually. Even someone immoral or amoral have ethics.
@@s1os2s3 So what you describe in the last section is a work ethic. But in German we wouldn't use that word in that sense we would maybe say professional attitude. Arbeitsethik would always imply something like exploiting cheap labour. Arbeitsmoral actually exists but it would be how focused you are which cuts into the same niche as your definition of work ethic. Anyway, I have the same problem as before, the definitions overlap and a partially self-contradictory. Why can I decide my ethics but it is agreed by everyone? It seems really a too nebulous concept to hedge in like that.
Reminder that a belief-system doesn´t need to be religious. Quite the contrary: it´s rarely about religion but about our own interpretation of what we were told as children. As such it is crucial to educate young children to develope a capacity for empathy and cooperation. Or bloodshed and violence if that´s where we want our society to go...
This maybe hard to understand because the definitions of ethics and morals don’t separate them vs each other. Both define right and wrong behavior. Objective right and wrong. Ethics is used as the term for a philosophical perspective of objective morality. Moral is used to describe an individual’s adherence to ethical behavior.
I disagree. Ethics are guides to behaviour (often personal) derived from underlying principles eg. Utilitarianism/Consequentialism or Kant’s Categorical Imperative/Kingdom of Ends, or Aristotelian Virtue ethics. Morals are rules laid down by a group bound by a moralistic worldview eg. Religion. So, homosexuality may be ethically OK (no one is harmed) but considered immoral in some religions. Eating meat may be unethical (animals are killed), but for the majority of meat-eaters, it’s not immoral.
While the earlier comment is correct regarding how interchangeable the two words are in the fields of philosophy, this doesn’t mean that using them interchangeably is accurate. Our understanding of “ethics” comes from Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics, where he refers directly to Ethikos Arete, or acting from virtue. Ethics in this sense is a habit, a tendency of (the soul in this case) something to act in a good manner. Having a good ethos was conjoining intuition (what feels right) with rational thought (what we can reason to be fair). A law-based understanding of how to act in a good way didn’t come around until Christianity became popular. This is where morals come from (Egoism, utilitarianism, etc all being moral theories). Morals are law or rule based, for example don’t lie, or do what is natural. Ethics in the true sense is a result of being a virtuous person, and therefore wanting or having a tendency to act according to virtue.
This distinction is kind of iffy though, because then you have very specific rules (ethics) grounded in religion or other moral belief systems, making things a bit grayer than that
Just in case for people reading comments, personal codes of conduct aren't always more just or right than ethic codes. I know it's not what the video said, but the examples kind show that and people tend to over-interpret things, specially when moral seems freedom and ethics oppression.
Ethics are just expressions of morals. I can either reserve my moral judgments for the appropriate time, or I can lay them out a head of time. Ethics are derivative of morals and attempt to communicate them to others objectively.
@SeptemberChild1835 People want to be moral but they lack ethics. Then you have those doing anything to be morally superior. Yet lack ethics. Yet all of them judge others for this.
Basically what i learned,
Morals: what i believe i have to do
Ethics: What i am supposed or expected to do
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I don't deserve this 💀
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Morals : what is the right thing to do
Wthics : what society expect me to do
@@salihawouda2992 there's no such thing as right or wrong. Only what goes
@@salihawouda2992there are no right moral, it's subjective.
Morals: Personal code.
Ethics: Collective code.
Morals: Personal code
Ethics: Objective code
@@thatoneaggressivegamer idk about ethics being objective. Just my opinion I'm not knowledgeable in this field. But as far as i know ethics is based on what a society decides on an ethical code to be. And this decision can change from society to society. Ethics was not the same as it is right now. Thus i think it isn't objective, it's subjective. (Again I'm not knowledgeable in this field pls don't take offense)
@@Po_124I'm definitely with you on this one. There definitely seems to be too much variation from society and time to consider them truly objective, even if one version was actually truly objective system. Besides in my experience people often use the word objective in different senses. I'm personally not really a fan of the word. Hence why I used qualifiers/modifiers for it in my post. I prefer to avoid it if possible, due to ambiguity.
BTW, this is not meant as a comment on the poster or their usage of objective. Just my personal opinion.
@@Po_124 Objectivity is mind independent, it's not about how you feel or think.
It is not some rigid thing that can't be adjusted either.
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 wdym? I think i said the same thing as u.
In D&D terms.
Morals, equals good vs evil alignments. (I.E moral equals good, immoral equals evil)
Ethics, equals lawful vs chaotic alignments. (I.E ethical equals lawful, unethical equals chaotic)
ohhhh now we're talkin
I understood this better. 😅
yes, ethic means lawful, but the law can be made by anyone whom the common society lets in the administrative position. And by let, I mean being passive and in fear as some lunatic takes that responsibility and thinking is power.
@@andreeaelenapirleci5877 Yes. And that guy will be lawful evil.
my alignment in dnd tends to keep shifting between the range of neutral and good and between the range of neutral and chaotic xd
So:
Morals = beliefs that shape people's behavior.
Ethics = rules in a group (society, organization, etc).
Right?
Morals are subjective and change people to people. Ethics are usually more objective and are defined the experiences and decisions of a lot more people
@@tamas9554 Just because they're the experiences of more people doesn't mean they're objective. Objectively means in a way that isn't influenced by personal feelings or opinions. If the ethics are defined by the personal feelings or opinions of millions or even billions of people, they're still defined by personal feelings or opinions and are therefore not objective.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Yes, they do mean they are "more" objective because of that. Comparing the experiences of multiple different people is the best way to get rid of bias and shed light on problems one person wouldn't encounter alone.
Like, this video kinda twists what "ethics" mean with the cartell example too. That one isn't ethical either looking from a non-criminal perspective. If anything, these organisations bend ethics to their own liking, or only keep certain parts. (like trying to leave out innocents from the trouble unless they ask for it)
@@tamas9554 I'm saying that no matter on many people you base it on, if the source is people's personal feelings, it'll never be objective *by definition*. There's no "more" or "less" objective in that case. Also you can never get rid of biases, you can only diminish their impact.
@@louisrobitaille5810 Thats not how it works. It is far easier to decipher the truth even from multiple differently biased perspectives, you just have to understand how people think
Transcript-y version for my future self. The vid is incredible concise and straight to point so not much of a reason to read this unless you wanted to copy this to your knowledge management system or smth.
## Morals
- Principles that shape an idea of right and wrong.
- Influenced by
- Environment
- Culture
- Our belief system
- They provide foundations for ethical systems.
## Ethics
- SPECIFIC rules and actions that dictate what's acceptable behaviour.
- More practical and less subjective than morals.
- Also it is applied to more people in general, and morals are mostly individual-based.
Main difference is that morals are personal principles people have, and ethics are practical rules and expectations for a specific group that they expected to follow regardless of their personal principles.
What's ethical may not be moral and vice versa.
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Amazingly concise vid, great work man.
I don't know. The way I see it is ethics are by definition influenced by environment and culture... which are both shaped by the collective belief system are they not? I still fail to really see the difference. I see it as it's like differentiating between "gender" and "sex". You can make a case for it but ultimately it still feels like an argument for argument's sake. What do you thonk?
@@lungaskosana7546 Morals are personal, and ethics aren't. Something maybe morally ill for someone but okay for someone else, but if they view the ethics in that situation, they should arrive at the same conclusion.
also, again, gender has a lot of definitions and stuff but sex doesn't. If different doctors see your body they will arrive at the same conclusion about what your sex is, but if the person says that that is not what they feel like their definition of gender is, well people nowadays are okay with that.
Basically ethics are much more objective than morals. Obviously ethics are different in different places, but they are definitely much more objective than morals.
@@lungaskosana7546
as @noahwysocki1223 commented,
"Morals: Personal code.
Ethics: Collective code."
Morals: Murder is wrong! Ethics:I will not rat out my sister, the family should stick together . Dillemma: Iam however upset that she killed the rest of the family, i might be the next.😂
Dont mind me, I'm just screenshotting this because it somehow describes one of my OCs
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 Link?
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 Do you have a link to a comic/story etc. ?
@@ABW941 no... it's not really something I'm comfortable sharing with people I don't know-
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 Is it hardcore furry porn?
Morals is the English translation of the greek word "Ethics." There is no difference!
Thanks for summarizing. This is also what I concluded from our class after reading an ENTIRE day about this
Can you upload the same video, without memes ? I found hard to understand sometimes.
morals are influenced by personal beliefs, Ethics are based on a set of rules and regulations,
Basically you're being moral if you're following your own code of being good, and when you're being ethical, You're following a code set by others of being good,
for e.g Killing 1 person for 4 people is ethical but not moral
My dear n word just hear the video without seeing the memes then
Where's the meme
Dumbas, just close your eyes and listen to the video.
Just shut your eyes and focus on the sound.
Interesting.
Morals: from Mores, customs: the usual or expected behaviour of people.
Ethics: from Ethos, character: a more personal disposition.
At some point, these words have switched meaning from what you'd expect looking at their etymology.
Morals in this sense seems to assume that people share the same innate traits.
Ethics seems to be about what has been taught or arrived at through reason.
Nature and culture, feelngs and facts, what is innate and what is acquired. One is non-negotiable, the other is negotiable.
So, your examples examine a specific dimension of the words, but they have more meanings when used in different contexts.
One possible dimension is that companies and other organisations ( like the Mafia), as "in-groups" , expect personal loyalty , through peer-pressure if necessary, from their workers, that stands "above" moral considerations of the general culture. And personal consciousness as well, which would be the trademark of "actual" ethics: Martin Luther's "Here I stand!"
Ethics is greek and morals is latin. It's only recently within living memory that these new definitions were applied, and they can still be pretty much interchangeable.
"I didn't know I needed this video" category. Well explained.
Short, straight to the point and simply explained for people to follow.
Well done Sir!
This only applies to the colloquial terms. When we're talking about philosophy/religion, the terms actually *are* interchangeable. Usually.
"Moral Philosophy" and "Ethics" are pretty much synonymous academic terms. When a philosopher is talking about what is "Ultimately good" or "Ultimately bad," they usually won't draw a distinction between "Morals" and "Ethics," they will use the terms interchangeably. An action being "Moral" is also "Ethical".
Also, even colloquially, if someone believes in a certain ethical system, that ethical system CAN BE their morality, and so the two terms in their case would be interchangeable. There's no functional difference between "Christian Ethics" and "Christian Morals," or "Utilitarian Ethics" and "Utilitarian Morals". So if you consider yourself a hardline Christian or a hardline Utilitarian, your Ethics will be your Morals.
Yes, this is mostly true. Philosophy do see ethical frameworks and moral frameworks as the same. There is some merit in drawing some distinctions between the two when it comes to how the terms are generally used day to day, in the work place e.t.c.
I always thought the philosophical distinction between morals and ethics was that ethics are like a system of basically “grading” the weight of actions with the same morality. Morality tells you things are good or things are bad, but no more than that, which is why you have ethics to decide “ties” or whatever you would call it when morality dictates two options are either both good or both bad. Like the trolly problem is a dilemma because by most systems of morality both options are bad, but it interrogates the ethical system a person subscribes to by asking which option they believe is *less* bad.
It seems wasteful to not draw a distinction.
@@josephwilliams5292 Think of Ethics as a trinity of balancing positions, with morality/values being one portion of the collective balance. Morality is within Ethics, but Ethics is fundamentally between three different modes of categorization of distinction. Utilitarian, Value, and Principles: The first is the most good for the most people whether or not it brings some harm to others in the process, the most utilitarian option gives the most good.
Values are morality, they're your personal understanding and how you live your life based on your own code, they are how you maximize the benefits in your life and minimize the harms.
Principles are laws, they are what is set into place by those in authority to help regulate humanity in any given community or society. Think religion, that is principled ethics over utilitarian ethics or value ethics.
The Ethics problem, including the Trolly Problem, is a theoretical exercise in balancing ethical conundrums as people try to steer the collective towards an ever better answer of how to persist as a society. Colloquially, this in turn makes Ethics to be the morally good understanding of how to bring the best benefit to society in the best ways, and to minimize the most harms while doing so.
In summary, morality is tied within Ethics, but Ethics is a broader metaphysical equation of how to bring the most good out of any given problem while minimizing the most bad that can occur to the most amount of people possible.
That's the problem with religion. Religions have an ethical code that allows you to belong to a subculture and they state its an objective morality when it is not.
Ethically slavery is bad but morally my minecraft village needs to have a automatic wheat farm.
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great explanation even for the non-native speakers.
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Glad you liked it!
Morals not just subjective They are principles where most people in this world can agree on.
0:05 Morals vs Ethics. This video clearly explains the difference between morals and ethics in a fun and easy-to-understand way. The funny images really help illustrate the concepts!
Loved the video!
Do morals, ethics, and laws next 😄
Ethics is not law or rules. What you described is not ethics. Ethics are core principles one makes for oneself based on their experiences. "Omerta", in this case is a rule or law or policy.
That's right. Ethica Nicomachea is a good read about this.
So basically what u r trying to say is that it's acceptable for a psychopath to kill a person and still be morally and ethically correct???
given that ,morals are one's personal beliefs and sense of rightness.
May b For him it is good but in societical ethics its not..... @@ICU-X1
This was... really educational, thank you
Morals don't even have to be good at all.
Ethical behaviour is heavily invested in being beneficial and non harmful. The second part even more so, ex. primum no nocere, lawyer criminal confidentiality (even though both are often immoral, they can be ethical) and so forth
Would you elaborate on how morals "don't even have to be good at all"?
Thank you for you efforts. I hereby appreciate your video!
This video seems much more like an effort to convince people to see things a certain way (that morals are good and ethics are - not as good) rather than to sincerely address the nuances of morals and ethics.
Ethics as used colloquially CANNOT arrive at "Good" by itself. The word "Good" and "Bad" are referring to Morals NOT Ethics, you view ethics through your moral paradigm and not the other way around.
Morals are necessarily MORE 'important' to an individual than ethics (as used colloquially) in the sense that it is presupposed when talking about ethics.
@@ThePNGGUY 1) your reply basically confirms the accuracy of my comment.
2) the choice to only acknowledge the "colloquial" use of the words was _a choice_ - equally valid is the view that the words both historically and scholastically are functional synonyms, literally interchangeable, at least in some academic (and in fact, colloquial) settings.
3) putting those points aside, accepting the distinction that youve drawn and going from there, if morals are the abstract X = good/right and Y = bad/wrong value judgments each of us believe (for whatever reasons, some more or less defensible than others) then ethics would be the navigation of moral dilemmas and the application of moral judgments in the complexity of real life, where moral imperatives often pull us in different and even conflicting directions. If murder is wrong then what do we do with murderers? Is capital punishment an answer arrived at morally or ethically? Are lynch mobs morally or ethically justified? Or due process and equality under the law? What about abortion - when the mothers chances of surviving delivery are very low? How low do her chances of survival have to be for abortion to be morally or ethically acceptable? How about medically assisted sue-ee-side? Or in a broader sense, just the overall body of ethically-determined standards of best care practices in the various fields of medicine? It might seem that my personal (but abstract and for the most part, hypothetical) moral code is more important to me than the ethical standards of care followed by doctors but that may change _when I need a doctor_
Look, Im not trying to insult you or demean your work. But if I had to categorize the channel based only on this video and my choices were A) education - a thoroughly researched and unbiasedly presented explanation, meant to inform the viewer _as completely as possible_ of the important elements of a topic so that they can make an informed conclusion for themselves
or B) propaganda - an incomplete and selectively presented explanation of a topic meant to convince the viewer to understand a topic in the specific and limited way that the presenter wants them to understand it, Id have to call it B) propaganda. The other option would just be a presentation made by someone who didnt bother to really learn the topic before making the video. The internet is flooded, saturated, polluted with way too much of B and C and really, _really_ needs more A) educators.
@@MP-db9swexcept you have no argument, as he defined the terms in order establish a base for the discussion. You're just attempting to redefine those terms. whuxb disallowes rhe conversation
@@thac0twenty377 your criticism indicates that you either didnt read or didnt really understand my full comment. But to critique your critique, I can "define the terms" of mayonnaise and mustard as "white stuff" and "yellow stuff" and while it may not be wrong, exactly, it wouldnt exactly be right, either.
@@MP-db9sw it's not a criticism it's an observation. he states colloquial usage to establish a consensual definition in which to discuss the topic. Reestablishing terns doesn't change the nature or validity of the argument. So in a sense you've proven my point
Great explanation. Thank you!
Thank you for a video that correctly identified its' content, was concise and not waffly and, actually taught me something.
It's also the same thing, but one is a Greek word the other is a Latin word
Morals and Ethics. Two things that humanity ignores.
True honesty here; thank you for this. It was made very well to understand this easily.
Love your videos. ❤
Thank you so much!
Couldn't have said it worse myself.
I always looked at it like morals are your own personal beliefs on what is right and wrong and in between and ethics are a broader system of societal norms on what's deemed right and wrong and in between. So essentially the distinction is that morals are much more induvial in nature while ethics are for society.
dude the frickin pictures and videos make the whole thing so funny 😂😂
I'm not a religious person, but I follow moral guidelines. I think I have to follow them, because it's just what's right. Here's a tip for all those freaks on the internet out there, it should be universally known that you shouldn't Be hateful, or attracted to children or animals in any way.
To go a little deeper if you’re interested. “because it’s what’s right” is only an assertion, not a justification for the first assertion of you ought follow moral guidelines.
Basically what you’ve just said is I follow what’s right because it’s right. It’s circular. Why is it right & How do you know it’s right?
Ultimately what I’m getting at is that a lot of people vaguely understand these concepts but they don’t know what it means to justify and or ground a belief. They just “feel” that something is right or wrong and that’s it. This is understandable because most people don’t know much about meta-ethics. I just thought I could maybe spark your interest in philosophy a little deeper than surface level basics.
(Btw I agree with your moral claims, only difference is that our groundings for those claims are different)
@ThePNGGUY You're asking for self awareness. That represents of internal debate just isn't in most people's capacity. Excellent discussion point though
Morals you don't have to understand, you just have to do as told. Ethics need to be understood.
I love the clear and short explanation, thank you
This video is like a drop in the ocean about this subject.
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This is important. Thank you.
What dictionary did you use? Morals are taught, for example from a bible etc. Ethics are reasoned to, from philosophy and debate.
From philosophy I know a different distinction.
Moral: A belief system of value judgements used by a person or group
Ethics: The science of moral system (what are they? how do they work? what influences them? ...)
Science to me by definition is the investigation of phenomena of the natural world. I cannot hold a gram of the "good" in my hand. There is no "science" of morality, unless you're defending that one util guys position, Sam Harris I think?
Theyre synonymous
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Morality: how you treat others.
Ethics: how you treat others.
What am I missing?
The underlying reason for your action
The why of it
Thought-provoking!
I was taught that ethics is about how you behave when no one is around to see you
Great video, thank you :)
I was unclear and thought ethics always was a stem of morals but from a much broader perspective with an unclear foundation. I now understand its a collective projection of its "morals" to elevate it to "ethics"/"ethical rules" standing.
I am now even more against ethics then before though as "collective" implies to me it can be easily manipulated.
Morals are between you and your god. Ethics are between you and others.
I've always thought of them the other way around. Morals are normative cultural dicta while ethics are based on personal beliefs and values. Morals are imposed from without; ethics arise from within.
It's not impossible that something a person feels is ethical behavior could be construed as immoral by the community. By the same token, behaviors that society considers moral or even desirable may be rejected by someone who feels those behaviors are unethical.
Legal illegal, moral immoral, and ethical unethical are, by and large, orthogonal axes.
morals are not part of legal, societal contract while ethics are. While you aren't wrong, society has established that distinction in the two terms
So ethics is a concept we came up with to pass more rules and gov spending, but make them appear to be based in morals. Do sex vs gender next.
nail on the head lol
The D&D alignments.
Thanks.
I believe all professional corporations (Orders) work in the best interest of their members. Just as lawyers wil not go against their clients (guilty or not). It is called Deontology. Which is, to my experience, a mafia in itself with an Omerta rule: evaluation by the peers is used to maintain any outsiders at bay. And minimised the going public and to minimise also the reprecautions on the professional misconducts as much as feasable.
I personally believe a culture decides your morals for you and proper ethics are a constant code learned in your adult life that SHOULD be universal. Morals are learned from parents or teachers and church where as your ethics are the created by the events and experiences which then guides you into the future.
morals- our belief system (personal beliefs) -> personal guiding behavior
ethics- specific rules and actions (rules everyone should follow) -> Set of rules certain groups/people have to follow (ex docotrs)
whats ethical isnt always what is moral.
So, morality is moral subjectivism and ethics are moral relativism?
...Okay...
Morals: wrong is wrong, right is right.
Ethics: alright time to fake my image to show that i am a good person.
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Yes.
But in reverse.
Ethics is about your personal sense of right and wrong. Morals are whar the culture around you sees as right and wrong.
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Good video . Great chaneal
The explanation was good. Maybe just not a different meme for each and every word, but for each individual idea. It tended towards being distracting
Its the same thing, the greeks called ethics, and The romans moral, they are translations
So national laws are also ethics.
Just that ethics can extend further than the laws based on the specific settings you activate in.
Or they can be in conflict with.
Basically conflict exists between morals and ethics, but also between ethics of different settings and even settings and subsettings ethics.
Memes makes it difficult to focus...
... No they don't
Memes literally means information that is highly contagious
OK, time for real talk.
“Ethics” is generally comprised of Values, principles, beliefs and norms.
“Values” weigh the odds between damage and helpfulness
“Principles” are sets of guidelines based on social groups and personal need to make decisions.
“Beliefs” are things that we understand which can formulate our principles.
“Norms”Are essentially where we land as a society in terms of what is acceptable and what is not which is subject to constant argumentation and scrutiny.
Norms are the part of ethics that fluctuate the most so we fall back on social contracts that back up our principles in order to protect our values…
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I recommend following up with a video on why _both_ morals and ethics are needed for society to thrive (short answer: ethics are required for building and preserving societal trust, while morals are needed for times when ethics alone fail or can't advise in a specific situation).
Also, cut down on the transitions moving forward. Try to limit yourself to one or two highly relevant visuals per statement. The multiple cuts per second you used here is very distracting and hurts the video more than anything.
Morals are internal, ethics are external.
They are literally the same thing.
One is micro, one is macro. One is created personally, the other is created interpersonally.
That's it.
It is like sociology, studying how social systems affected an individual, or how they affected a group. The group just comes from a combo of individuals. Ethics are just what comes out of collective morals mixing together until something that works *well enough* comes along.
Morals= feelings and desires circumscribed by rightness and reason...
Morals and desires don't always line up... like if one desires to hurt people, Immoral desires is what's classified as mentally ill
morals>ethics
i don't know why. but this made me tear up
i almost had a seizure to understand something that could have been explained by a pinned comment
You have a unique definition of the terms. For example a belief system that exploits others is its self immoral as well as all the derivative law being unethical.
so, if I understood correctly, ethics is just applied morals to a societal scale
ethics serves the collective, morals serves the individual
Basically moral is the equivalent of good in the alignment chart while ethics is the equivalent of lawful.
youtube videos explain ethics more understandatble than my school
The twists come with subjective “morality”. Where there is no concrete ethical principles. It’s whatever the individual believes or wants to claim is moral. There is no objective right and wrong.
Morals = Principle or Idea of what's good; goal of goodness, an ideal
Ethics = how to get there with rules; honor system
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I remember asking that question to my religion teacher before the internet was big. The answer didn't really satisfy me, though I can't remember it. My gut feeling at the time was that our society sees "morals" as bad and "ethics" as good, even though they're kind of the same.
Interesting video. Though I do feel it's kind of wrong, emphasis on kind of, I think the words do mean the same. The word shift indicates that there is a new dominant rule system although that happened long before our time.
No, they are not. Here is an extreme example and what is the answer according to morals and according to ethics.
Scenario: The family is poor, has no means to feed another child.
Moral it is not to abort the child. Not because whatever it is argued today but because you kill a potential human being that might pull the family out of poverty.
Ethical it is to abort the kid and not put him through the same pains you have been.
However, both are subjective. Morals are set by a majority. Ethics are rules agreed upon by everyone.
Or if you want a less sensitive topic. I have ethics. I always deliver the item in a good shape. I keep my car clean and well maintained. When you are being professional, that is an ethic. You are not always moral if you are a lawyer but you are always ethical because being ethical wins you clients and money. Morals do not always win you clients, nor money.
Ethics are pragmatic rules. Morals is an ideal.
@@s1os2s3 If "Morals are set by a majority. Ethics are rules agreed upon by everyone" then that to me creates a problem with your definition. Coz there's nothing I know of that's agreed upon by "everyone", thus both are actually dependent on majority by that definition. So they both are ideals the way you put it there. Unless I am misunderstanding your point. So to me after reading your paragraph, they still seem basically one and the same. It's like "gender and sex". You can argue for their difference, but to me it seems like arguing for the sake of arguing. What do you think?
@@lungaskosana7546 Lawyers are required to be ethic, not moral. Do you understand now the difference?
Lawyers can represent and defend someone that commited a vile crime that the defendant allegedly did. Morally, he shouldnt defend him. Ethics have nothing to do with good or bad, ethics just are.
Ethics are not restrained by morals. It is a code you create for yourself and business and if you want to do business with others you also have to respect theirs.
Say I create my own ethics:
1. I leave my desk clean and always leave everything in order.
I am not required to do that. The company has a cleaning lady to do that but it is one of my ethics to leave the place I use as I find it or if it is in disorder I make order and leave it in an order.
It is a set of rules that people appreciate you for. You dont have to do X but you do it because it is part of your code. Ethics can be withdrawn if you feel like the person is stepping on your nerves. They are rules enforced by you, individually.
Even someone immoral or amoral have ethics.
@@s1os2s3 So what you describe in the last section is a work ethic. But in German we wouldn't use that word in that sense we would maybe say professional attitude. Arbeitsethik would always imply something like exploiting cheap labour. Arbeitsmoral actually exists but it would be how focused you are which cuts into the same niche as your definition of work ethic.
Anyway, I have the same problem as before, the definitions overlap and a partially self-contradictory. Why can I decide my ethics but it is agreed by everyone? It seems really a too nebulous concept to hedge in like that.
Theyre synonymous
Mindless words
Don’t kill
Don’t steal
Don’t lie
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Let me save everyone 2 minutes, 'Ethics is Morals overthought'.
This world's alignment table be like:
Ethically Moral - Neutral Moral - Unethically Moral
Ethically Neutral - Impassive Indifference - Unethically Neutral
Ethically Immoral - Neutral Immoral - Unethically Immoral
In other words:
Ethics is crowdsourced morality.
Reminder that a belief-system doesn´t need to be religious. Quite the contrary: it´s rarely about religion but about our own interpretation of what we were told as children. As such it is crucial to educate young children to develope a capacity for empathy and cooperation. Or bloodshed and violence if that´s where we want our society to go...
0:18 - 0:24 They are also influenced by common sense and what we want done to ourselves.
In short, morals are doing what you truly believe to be right but ethics is just following rules of the current setting or environment you’re in
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This maybe hard to understand because the definitions of ethics and morals don’t separate them vs each other. Both define right and wrong behavior. Objective right and wrong. Ethics is used as the term for a philosophical perspective of objective morality. Moral is used to describe an individual’s adherence to ethical behavior.
I disagree. Ethics are guides to behaviour (often personal) derived from underlying principles eg. Utilitarianism/Consequentialism or Kant’s Categorical Imperative/Kingdom of Ends, or Aristotelian Virtue ethics. Morals are rules laid down by a group bound by a moralistic worldview eg. Religion. So, homosexuality may be ethically OK (no one is harmed) but considered immoral in some religions. Eating meat may be unethical (animals are killed), but for the majority of meat-eaters, it’s not immoral.
I thought ethics were a framework for figuring out what is right or wrong.
Ethics is applied morals
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While the earlier comment is correct regarding how interchangeable the two words are in the fields of philosophy, this doesn’t mean that using them interchangeably is accurate. Our understanding of “ethics” comes from Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics, where he refers directly to Ethikos Arete, or acting from virtue. Ethics in this sense is a habit, a tendency of (the soul in this case) something to act in a good manner. Having a good ethos was conjoining intuition (what feels right) with rational thought (what we can reason to be fair). A law-based understanding of how to act in a good way didn’t come around until Christianity became popular. This is where morals come from (Egoism, utilitarianism, etc all being moral theories). Morals are law or rule based, for example don’t lie, or do what is natural. Ethics in the true sense is a result of being a virtuous person, and therefore wanting or having a tendency to act according to virtue.
My way to distinguish the two is to use the first letters (M) Morals are Mine, and (E) Ethics are External
This distinction is kind of iffy though, because then you have very specific rules (ethics) grounded in religion or other moral belief systems, making things a bit grayer than that
Just in case for people reading comments, personal codes of conduct aren't always more just or right than ethic codes. I know it's not what the video said, but the examples kind show that and people tend to over-interpret things, specially when moral seems freedom and ethics oppression.
may likely be IMMORAL 😳
Your definition of ethics includes that individuals should do what they believe is hateful.
Ethics are just expressions of morals. I can either reserve my moral judgments for the appropriate time, or I can lay them out a head of time. Ethics are derivative of morals and attempt to communicate them to others objectively.
Hypocrisy is the gold standard here.
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@SeptemberChild1835 People want to be moral but they lack ethics.
Then you have those doing anything to be morally superior. Yet lack ethics.
Yet all of them judge others for this.
The video starts at 0:12 and ends at 2:00