@@erickalvarez6486 I think min min is incredibly underrated and as soon as protobanham comes to the us to compete she will be considered top tier, I don't know the general opinion on sephiroth yet
It was so beautiful to see Sephiroth win, I thought that match would be imposible because Pikachu always cheeses tall characters, thank you Tweek for making my favorite character look so sick
Yeah, those 2 are on a different league compared to everyone else. The samsora placing on the pgr he only got it because of his win on Leo but hes mad inconsistent in comparison with Leo or Tweek.
@@bachyas8888 I'd say that Tweek is the more inconsistent one. Heck Leo said that between Tweek and Sam, Sam is more consistent. Don't let online Sam fool you, he's still a killer at this.
@@ojutay8375 yo Sam always looses to some random in bracket, you don't overrated that guy. He makes top 8 one tourney and the other one hes out in r32 or he was sent to losers super early by some random. Hes the inconsistent one, just watch out results, you'll be surprised.
@@bachyas8888 during the 2019 PGR fall season, Sam never finished lower than 13th, won a major and was one of only six players to actually beat MKLeo during that time. MKLeo got sent to losers by Prodigy at Frostbite does that take away from his consistency?
@@roguethemachine Well, it doesn't particularly bother me that much, I love Pyra/mythra being added, and I know people are going to do videos about them anyway. I was really just poking fun at how most smashers the day-of make clickbaity things but here's Tweek with nice gameplay against ESAM.
That movement at 4:20 was crazy. I know on paper the technique is simple but I can see why Tweek sees Diddy as a character that just has more stuff he can do as a result of Ultimate's mechanics.
@@JonJonWhatsGood I don't like Esam but he's top 15 on the PGR and is probably one of the best players in all of Smash history. He can play every game except 64 I think at a top level. He's definitely "good."
I'm getting pretty sick of internet randoms saying high or top level players aren't good whenever they're seen losing anything. He's clearly a fantastic player at the bare minimum, over 10 million people play this game and he's top 15 out of all of them, saying he isn't good is simply deluded.
Pikachu in all Smash games has always historically been bad against huge disjoints. It's a big reason for why Ness beats him in this game and it's what stopped Pika from being top tier in 4. Turns out on top of his monstrous disjoints, Sephiroth is not only difficult to edgeguard, but is one of the few characters that can actually edgeguard Pikachu decently well and nullifies his zoning. Not saying he loses to Sephiroth, but it isn't at all bad. Pikachu in general though is largely overrated and a lot of matchups people thinks he effortlessly wins are closer than they think.
Tweek's Seph and Diddy are both insane! But I wonder if he would play Wario again, not only because of the new characters he's mastering but also because of the Nerfs
I watched this on stream and thought it would be a bit tougher for Tweek. 1. Tweek is obviously incredible but 2. Sephiroth's options against rushdowns if you can optimize is actually not bad. Tweek's use of orbs is next level.
can anyone tell me what that movement is at 2:03 and then at 4:34 right after Tweek takes Esam's stock. i'm not a diddy player and i've never seen that before
yeah, diddy banana got nerfed again D: idk how it will effect him but I think they wanted to get rid of the new footstool infinite that is nearly impossible to do that isn't even viable
He has so much good characters , it's unbelievable Diddy Kong Sephiroth Wario PKMN Trainer Wolf Roy Young Link Cloud Joker Banjo&Kazooie Donkey Kong Ridley King K Rool Bowser Jr. Those are all the characters I've seen him use in tournaments succesfully, tell me if I missed a few others
Can't change your mind on that but maybe I can shift your perspective. That 1st round as Sephiroth in beginning of vid was the true work of art. Change my mind
He does seem to be learning and relearning the match up. Sephiroth and Diddy Kong i mean. Plus these are friendlies so its a good time to figure out what works and what doesnt
To be fair hes using pikachu soo the frame data allows him to do it. If you arent have hitboxes out (like t jolt) at all times i think you are playing the wrong character lol
Very enjoyable set, thank you for the great content. Now that you had three days with Pyra how does she feel can we expect a video, these are the questions. MK goes even and MK b meta
@@Kara-de5cz what do you like racism? Do you like when esam propagates false rape allegations against other pro players? What about when he objectifies women? Lemmy guess you just like him "cuz he push button good". Maybe you're the one who needs help if you condone any of his revolting behavior.
@@cagnacagnacagnacagna1127 Sephiroth doesn't have a clear weakness. His combos and range are absolutely insane and he has a comeback mechanic. I can never edge guard this character because his recovery is broken. If being a lightweight and being tall are the only downsides, there is no way this character is not Top 10.
Manuel Schichau I think you’re overrating him, he doesn’t have great frame data, Tweek is just a great player and makes him look better than what he actually is
@@garrettgrimm1307 Pika is a top tier because he can combo, has a good projectile game that can even ledgetrap. Has two forms of spike, has a non linear and sometimes hard to predict recovery. Pikachu is also very tiny which means many attacks from other characters won't reach him. His only dissadvantage? He's light. Big deal right? In most Match up charts, Pikachui wins against most of the roster. That alone makes him a top tier.
I hope you convinced Esam diddy vs pika is at least an even MU, cause your diddy was nasty in these games. Also I’m looking forward to seeing what’s your opinion on the sephiroth vs pika MU cause your sephiroth was shmooving vs ESAM like what the hell
Is pikachu still top tier nowadays? The character never really had amazing results. And it seems like pikachu overly relies on cheesy edge guards to win.
Sephiroth does have disadvantage against pikachu. Mainly because some of his attack options are just innefective against Pikachu's height. This is just Tweek being the best player; HOWEVER, the fact Sephiroth defended himself so beautifully with all of his options against Pikachu further cements the fact anyone maining Sephiroth and exploiting the character, have a solid borderline top tier.
I know E be a little rusty from what I heard but hoooly...if I didn't watch all the way through I'd think Seph in Tweek's hands was just broken AF lmao
pikachu is so shit online, even not online i dont see how people say he isnt completley shit. but online u are just losing to anything with a sword. the lag is just killer
Damn bro...what happened to the esam that won a major LOL? Tweek wiped the floor with ya my brother no offense but you need to train some more because that was a slaughter my guy. I was rooting for you the whole time tho your still my fav esam ❤️
You think so? Shiny mark was defeated by the ex top 1 in Panama before he got banned from the community, and these central american guys can't cut it in major U.S tournaments. They are not even ranked top 32 if I am not mistaken. Meanwhile ESAM is. My point is, even if you are right and Shinymark is the best pika player between the two, doesn't mean he has the experience ESAM has against other serious opponents. I particularly don't like ESAM but we gotta give credit where is due.
@@Yokai_Yuri I appreciate your comment, and yes shinymark has much more swag and can beat any of the pgr, if you dont believe me look at his warm up vs tweek recently. Check his youtube :)
I wonder why sephiroth is so damn slow omg is it my GameCube controller ??? Or his moves are just to slow and his speed and he is so fucking light so one can die very early but the new character has the speed that sephiroth needs to be an aliste character in my opinion
I watched this on stream and thought it would be a bit tougher for Tweek. 1. Tweek is obviously incredible but 2. Sephiroth's options against rushdowns if you can optimize is actually not bad. Tweek's use of orbs is next level.
Playing you was so fun I really enjoyedi t!!
Esam please can you tell me What do u think of Sephiroth?
^^^
How many matches did you guys actually play?
Esam did you win any? Yall are my two favorite players so I hope it was a good contest
@@MrSeraphant he won some in this vid
Tweek looking so fresh and clean with the Diddy/Seph combo. I really hope he sticks with these two.
Unless they get nerfed I dont think he'll drop them, sephiroth is one of his most wanted ever characters and he's doing so well with diddy
I think sephi and so min min get a bit of a buff because of online.
@@erickalvarez6486 I think min min is incredibly underrated and as soon as protobanham comes to the us to compete she will be considered top tier,
I don't know the general opinion on sephiroth yet
He needs to go back to PT
He’s gonna get 3-0 first offline tourney then go main random again
Content that isnt pyra or mythra related during this time and it's good content?
Hell ye
When are you gonna release a new Wario game?
Rip you got nerfed sad boi hourz
@@futureu3887 my late lasting up tilt hit box... GONE
@@cr8r411 and yo farts are slow 😔
@@axlethered23 😟😭
Tweek is so good at mixing up his timings it’s throwing me off and I’m not even playing
Especially when he throws a banana and then just instantly goes in and attacks without even picking it up lmao
Throws me off so hard just watching it
@Cade Zierer it is! A lot of people don't understand this.
His executions are just done really fast so you really have to focus on what he is really doing
Tweeks diddy Kong’s is officially my favorite thing to watch in the entirety of ultimate
That's exactly what I think about his Sephiroth
His banana control is so smooth it's disgusting
It was so beautiful to see Sephiroth win, I thought that match would be imposible because Pikachu always cheeses tall characters, thank you Tweek for making my favorite character look so sick
I honestly think the MU isn't too bad. -1 at worst
@@ThatSneakman facts playing pika against my bro maining seph gets harder every time lmaoo
Jesus man, there's something different about the way Tweek and MKLeo play compared to everyone else. It's so clean, it's beautiful to watch.
ESAM describes it as having perfect decision making in almost every interaction
Yeah, those 2 are on a different league compared to everyone else. The samsora placing on the pgr he only got it because of his win on Leo but hes mad inconsistent in comparison with Leo or Tweek.
@@bachyas8888 I'd say that Tweek is the more inconsistent one. Heck Leo said that between Tweek and Sam, Sam is more consistent. Don't let online Sam fool you, he's still a killer at this.
@@ojutay8375 yo Sam always looses to some random in bracket, you don't overrated that guy. He makes top 8 one tourney and the other one hes out in r32 or he was sent to losers super early by some random. Hes the inconsistent one, just watch out results, you'll be surprised.
@@bachyas8888 during the 2019 PGR fall season, Sam never finished lower than 13th, won a major and was one of only six players to actually beat MKLeo during that time. MKLeo got sent to losers by Prodigy at Frostbite does that take away from his consistency?
I like that you also show highlights of the player you're playing against, great humbleness and sportsmanship
This is the only non-pyra/mythra content you will see smashers upload today. savor it while you can.
can i ask why it bothers people so much people will put content on new caracthers it just bound to happen why is it a problem now
@@roguethemachine cuz it’s boring to see “PYRA/MYTHRA IS BROKEN 😱😱😱” from every smash tuber for a week.
@@roguethemachine Well, it doesn't particularly bother me that much, I love Pyra/mythra being added, and I know people are going to do videos about them anyway. I was really just poking fun at how most smashers the day-of make clickbaity things but here's Tweek with nice gameplay against ESAM.
Pyra sucks no joke
@@Majorblack well, I use her as a kill confirm, then back to mythra.
I'm so happy that tweek is sticking to sephiroth man
That movement at 4:20 was crazy. I know on paper the technique is simple but I can see why Tweek sees Diddy as a character that just has more stuff he can do as a result of Ultimate's mechanics.
Oh yea baby thunder rat vs long slong slicer
Actually, it's not the baby, it's just thunder rat vs barbecue skew
Bro. Watching tweek give other good players that work is my kink
But ESAM isn't good.
@@JonJonWhatsGood I don't like Esam but he's top 15 on the PGR and is probably one of the best players in all of Smash history. He can play every game except 64 I think at a top level. He's definitely "good."
I'm getting pretty sick of internet randoms saying high or top level players aren't good whenever they're seen losing anything. He's clearly a fantastic player at the bare minimum, over 10 million people play this game and he's top 15 out of all of them, saying he isn't good is simply deluded.
12:11 that was such a smooth and smart kill
9:58 lol that upair
Oh wow Tweek is smoking everyone with Sephiroth
Dude sephiroth’s counter on t jolt is ridiculous, that’s hella smart
Next do MK Leo's Byleth vs your Seph, Distance Demon vs Distance Angel.
Audio is desynced - video's ahead by about a half second.
Just long enough for nobody to notice unless you mention it
@@nattompkins888 its pretty easy to notice lol
@@sujal439 I never noticed till I read the comment lol
bruh Tweek's Sephiroth is so CLEAN.
damn that Sephiroth IS FIRE! Good stuff tweek.
And here I thought Seph vs Pikachu would be a bad match-up
Pikachu in all Smash games has always historically been bad against huge disjoints. It's a big reason for why Ness beats him in this game and it's what stopped Pika from being top tier in 4. Turns out on top of his monstrous disjoints, Sephiroth is not only difficult to edgeguard, but is one of the few characters that can actually edgeguard Pikachu decently well and nullifies his zoning. Not saying he loses to Sephiroth, but it isn't at all bad. Pikachu in general though is largely overrated and a lot of matchups people thinks he effortlessly wins are closer than they think.
@@broom2839 #notallsmashgames pika actually busted in 64.
4:05 Is it just me, or did Tweek accidentally do a no impact land when getting back on stage?
that was trippy lol
That Sephiroth is *clean.*
Love the videos.
Is it possible to increase the volume a bit? They're very quiet and when I pump the volume the adverts end up blowing my eardrums :D
1:10 HE DID THE THING
Tweek's Seph and Diddy are both insane!
But I wonder if he would play Wario again, not only because of the new characters he's mastering but also because of the Nerfs
He said on his Twitter there’s no reason for him to ever touch that character again
@@internetexplorer2263
Wario mains:
I've a-won...but at what cost?
I watched this on stream and thought it would be a bit tougher for Tweek. 1. Tweek is obviously incredible but 2. Sephiroth's options against rushdowns if you can optimize is actually not bad. Tweek's use of orbs is next level.
can anyone tell me what that movement is at 2:03 and then at 4:34 right after Tweek takes Esam's stock. i'm not a diddy player and i've never seen that before
@Trinidad Wilson appreciate the response but i was wondering about the movement in the air while he was holding the banana
@@billrodz1 It's a pop gun cancel, search it up if you want.
God Tier to be able to consistently 2 stock best pikachu
ShinyMark is the best pika.
@@10cesc4. what makes u say that
Sephiroth is a hard matchup for Pikachu
@@lordsozehcp5362 he's not vanilla Pikachu with all his combos and spam of tjolt for a get out of jail card.
@@10cesc4. that’s straight 🧢.
We want to know tweeks thoughts on patch 11.0
Definitely going to be a topic on the next Tweek talks
yeah, diddy banana got nerfed again D: idk how it will effect him but I think they wanted to get rid of the new footstool infinite that is nearly impossible to do that isn't even viable
@@JanitorMusician Tweek said the Diddy "nerf" doesn't matter in the slightest.
Wow, inspirational. Great job Tweek. So clean with some good decision making
That crazy ass combo from esam at 8:45-8:57 was crazy 💀
Your sephiroth is an inspiration. Those neutral b wave bounce cancels are crazy.
so excited to see you dominate offline once its back
Yep the difference in skill between these two are still night and day
Yeah this is why Esam wasn't streaming the matches, he was getting clapped.
@@bachyas8888 Yeah Tweek is another bracket demon of Esam’s
Wonder if esam would be on the PGR if he didn't main the most broken character
@@tomrod1949 Not saying that ESAM is bad but even he himself says that Pikachu straight up carries him in some matchups.
He has so much good characters , it's unbelievable
Diddy Kong
Sephiroth
Wario
PKMN Trainer
Wolf
Roy
Young Link
Cloud
Joker
Banjo&Kazooie
Donkey Kong
Ridley
King K Rool
Bowser Jr.
Those are all the characters I've seen him use in tournaments succesfully, tell me if I missed a few others
He's played some Joker
@@e-duh3529 Thx bro
I didn't know he had a Ridley.
@@Alleis he's used ridley a couple times, but not to much success
@@e-duh3529 I'll probably check it out tommorow, Ridley is pretty cool.
Pikachu: I'm the best character.. I'm busted
Also pikachu: I have almost no tournament wins to show for it
It’s all theory, not practical.
Damn tweek you’re a savage lmao
What is version 1 referencing
Where is the boxing ring?
“Tweek’s diddy is a work of art”
Change my mind
Can't change your mind on that but maybe I can shift your perspective. That 1st round as Sephiroth in beginning of vid was the true work of art. Change my mind
Watching this makes me wanna get back into smash
Does tweek still play pokemon trainer? Dont see any content w that character recently (and sadly)...
Not really, but it doesn't mean he ditched the character completely
I know tweek is good at the pika match up but esam seems so lazy and telegraphed playing him
He does seem to be learning and relearning the match up. Sephiroth and Diddy Kong i mean. Plus these are friendlies so its a good time to figure out what works and what doesnt
Etuans interis, ira vehementi. SEPHIROTH!
First game last stock was crazy tweek is godlike.
your sephiroth is looking scary
God dude his sephiroth makes me so jealous. So sick
literally watching esam spam smash attacks in neutral and whiff them is a testament to something I don't even want to be rude enough to say.
To be fair hes using pikachu soo the frame data allows him to do it. If you arent have hitboxes out (like t jolt) at all times i think you are playing the wrong character lol
Maybe just online but it seemed sephiroth was having an easier time at some points
weird that the audio is desynced
Yo Tweek, you ever notice if you mash jump when you grab with monkey flip, you foot stool them!
Can we talk about the landing at 4.06 ? Isn't it like very very fast ?
saw it too just think it was his timing of the offstage d jump
Very enjoyable set, thank you for the great content. Now that you had three days with Pyra how does she feel can we expect a video, these are the questions. MK goes even and MK b meta
Tweek is built different. A smash ultimate God.
Can we get a peanut gun cancel tutorial? He's so consistent at it it blows my mind
I feel like the pandemic made ESAM to a mediocre player compared to his offline back then.
Why is Tweek soo good like damn
Feel like pichu better now
Are they playing on yuzu?
No
Anyone keep track of the score?
Esam gon counter pick boxing ring
lol
Stop it now. Get some help.
@@Kara-de5cz what do you like racism? Do you like when esam propagates false rape allegations against other pro players? What about when he objectifies women? Lemmy guess you just like him "cuz he push button good". Maybe you're the one who needs help if you condone any of his revolting behavior.
If tweek keeps this up he is gonna be the best player in the world of mkleo I think
Tweek is on a different level
Honestly, Sephiroth is Top 10 in the game!
I think he's top tier myself, but what does your top 10 look like with Sephiroth in it?
@@cagnacagnacagnacagna1127 Sephiroth doesn't have a clear weakness. His combos and range are absolutely insane and he has a comeback mechanic. I can never edge guard this character because his recovery is broken. If being a lightweight and being tall are the only downsides, there is no way this character is not Top 10.
Manuel Schichau I think you’re overrating him, he doesn’t have great frame data, Tweek is just a great player and makes him look better than what he actually is
@@n.willy4864 Where do you say he is among other characters? I'm curious. Top 20 or 25 at worst IMO bc of Wing and a solid disadvantage.
Damn, Nintendo is really killing all the top tiers minus pikachu
Because pika isn’t a top tier
@@garrettgrimm1307 haha, good one.
@@garrettgrimm1307 Pika is a top tier because he can combo, has a good projectile game that can even ledgetrap. Has two forms of spike, has a non linear and sometimes hard to predict recovery. Pikachu is also very tiny which means many attacks from other characters won't reach him. His only dissadvantage? He's light. Big deal right? In most Match up charts, Pikachui wins against most of the roster. That alone makes him a top tier.
@@garrettgrimm1307 ummm... he's been one of the best characters since day 1 tho...
They aren't going to nerf him because he ain't Joker. Lol also pika dies at 70ish
How is he SCHMOOVIN this hard online???? Tweek is insane!
Good internet
I hope you convinced Esam diddy vs pika is at least an even MU, cause your diddy was nasty in these games. Also I’m looking forward to seeing what’s your opinion on the sephiroth vs pika MU cause your sephiroth was shmooving vs ESAM like what the hell
Is pikachu still top tier nowadays? The character never really had amazing results. And it seems like pikachu overly relies on cheesy edge guards to win.
Esam was sadging after the play session
Sephiroth does have disadvantage against pikachu. Mainly because some of his attack options are just innefective against Pikachu's height. This is just Tweek being the best player; HOWEVER, the fact Sephiroth defended himself so beautifully with all of his options against Pikachu further cements the fact anyone maining Sephiroth and exploiting the character, have a solid borderline top tier.
jack anderson Pikachu is way too good at too many things to not be top tier
Idk tweek was recording it
this isn't ShinyMark
I know E be a little rusty from what I heard but hoooly...if I didn't watch all the way through I'd think Seph in Tweek's hands was just broken AF lmao
Tweek is nasty.
Who else wants to see Gavin take on Tyler
pikachu is so shit online, even not online i dont see how people say he isnt completley shit. but online u are just losing to anything with a sword. the lag is just killer
You inspired me to play sephiroth. Of course, I am trash as I am generally at the game... But, whatever.
Sephiroth top tier?
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THEY NOTICED PALU’S NAIR GOT SHADOW NERFED !!!!!
didn't notice anything
@@ether2275 maybe im just garbage 🙃
how does esam lose all these match ups and still think pikachu is the best/busted
I know you play all the roster, but there's somenthing diferent in the way you play Seph, it's evil and makes your opponents fear you.
exactly 1k likes
holy shit the audio desync is terrible
Damn bro...what happened to the esam that won a major LOL? Tweek wiped the floor with ya my brother no offense but you need to train some more because that was a slaughter my guy. I was rooting for you the whole time tho your still my fav esam ❤️
Its online
bro i swear this game is too easy for tweek
Always nice seeing esam lose
better than mkleos sephi
best pikachu in the world is shinymarks
You think so? Shiny mark was defeated by the ex top 1 in Panama before he got banned from the community, and these central american guys can't cut it in major U.S tournaments. They are not even ranked top 32 if I am not mistaken. Meanwhile ESAM is. My point is, even if you are right and Shinymark is the best pika player between the two, doesn't mean he has the experience ESAM has against other serious opponents. I particularly don't like ESAM but we gotta give credit where is due.
@@Yokai_Yuri I appreciate your comment, and yes shinymark has much more swag and can beat any of the pgr, if you dont believe me look at his warm up vs tweek recently. Check his youtube :)
@@Magic0YT Hi, what is his youtube channel pls ? Can't find it
GG
Fk these guys are good love.
I really like watching Tweek's videos on the PC since it is easier to skip the Diddy Kong parts.
His diddy is great but man his Sephiroth is si CLEAN I litteraly have to skip to his parts
Esam carried by simple combos that pikachu has lmao
Esam got kinda washed tho hol on
Yessss
I hate how they nerfed diddy
They nerfed Diddy :(
On his Twitter, I’m pretty sure Tweek said the Diddy change barely matters
@@silvesta5027 OK good I literally started using Diddy cuz of Tweek
Bruh they just nerfed the time to get a banana between them not something crazy
I wonder why sephiroth is so damn slow omg is it my GameCube controller ??? Or his moves are just to slow and his speed and he is so fucking light so one can die very early but the new character has the speed that sephiroth needs to be an aliste character in my opinion
Because they actually balanced a character for once
Love watching Esam get bodied
love watching esam get destroyed
I watched this on stream and thought it would be a bit tougher for Tweek. 1. Tweek is obviously incredible but 2. Sephiroth's options against rushdowns if you can optimize is actually not bad. Tweek's use of orbs is next level.
Where is the boxing ring?