JL AUDIO W7 12 vs. ALPINE TYPE R 12 MAX SPL SHOWDOWN

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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
  • I made this video just for fun to see how the alpine type R stacks up against the jl audio w7. I have each subwoofer hooked up to its own amp and that amp is the hifonics brutus elite 1700.1D BE35.
    I also have 2 extra batteries to make sure those amps are getting enough juice to push these subs to the max !
    Enjoy !

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  • @perjian1697
    @perjian1697 3 роки тому +24

    Watching speakers flap around on my phone screen doesn't help prove anything.

  • @OwensFamily300
    @OwensFamily300 3 роки тому +151

    There is no comparison, the JL takes the win. I have yet to hear a sub that gets as loud as the W7 without compromising SQ. I have the 13.5 and that alone in my F-150 gets louder then my old pair of Rockford P3 15s. I never got why there is so many haters on W7, tbh majority of them just hate because they can't afford it...

    • @roosterinmarari
      @roosterinmarari 2 роки тому +3

      💯

    • @pedroronda1776
      @pedroronda1776 2 роки тому +1

      That’s what I was gonna say you have like another sub sitting outside of a sub comparing it to the type r This is a dumb video even try to compare such a good sub to get sub but we know which one is already better before this video

    • @coreykelly770
      @coreykelly770 2 роки тому +16

      Orion HCCA CRUSHES both of these Heaps 🤭

    • @AntonioPerez-hv1lp
      @AntonioPerez-hv1lp 2 роки тому +11

      Alpine has also high performance types! Of course this Jl audio sounds better but cost 15x more expensive...:).

    • @cherokeeoff-road2158
      @cherokeeoff-road2158 2 роки тому +10

      Rockford fosgatet2 13 ❤

  • @waderyun.war00034
    @waderyun.war00034 6 років тому +79

    You need some readings for an SPL showdown. You were running both of them at the same time. How is this an SPL showdown?

    • @psustud5327
      @psustud5327 2 місяці тому

      My thoughts exactly

    • @iGPR3
      @iGPR3 21 день тому

      lmao we get to see them wobble and he calls it an spl test

  • @USERNAME1-x5u
    @USERNAME1-x5u 3 роки тому +27

    The price difference is quite large though. JL is good but was always the pricey option.

    • @Guerito4life
      @Guerito4life 2 роки тому

      RE audio XXX subs are monsters if you can find one nowadays

    • @frazmeup
      @frazmeup 2 роки тому

      @@Guerito4life I remember back in the day they were huge in competitions. By Type R just blew and Idk what to buy these days. 10 years ago was a different story..

  • @magicyeti9256
    @magicyeti9256 5 років тому +23

    JL
    Alpine relies on coil power for neutral, where JL uses static material tension

    • @cesaralonso5701
      @cesaralonso5701 3 роки тому +2

      Magic Yeti can u explain that to me I don’t understand if u don’t mind

  • @kyleknight7765
    @kyleknight7765 7 років тому +155

    I don't care what anyone says alpine type R is pound for pound one of the best subs on the market.. What I mean is the performance, durability, bass and sound quality along with the price makes it one of the very best subs in my opinion.. there are much better subs out there but but not for the price.. Alpine did great with the type R

    • @prestonsserious
      @prestonsserious 7 років тому +8

      Kyle Knight dont you mean with the w7? and alpine sucks ass i put my w7 500 watts vs my friends larger car with 600 watts to the alphine and mine hit deeper sounded louder and felt better w7 ftw

    • @richienewman5826
      @richienewman5826 7 років тому +29

      Kyle Knight I'm guessing you've never messed with real subs such as sundown, DC, FI, or Incriminator

    • @kyleknight7765
      @kyleknight7765 7 років тому +45

      what I said is for the price it is one of the best subs on the market.. sure sundown is a better sub but ur gonna pay a sh*t ton more for it..

    • @mrwolfe0812
      @mrwolfe0812 7 років тому +13

      Kyle Knight for 700 I would never buy a w7, they arent worth it, not to say it isnt a good sub, but jl is way too proud of themselves. The type r will push 1500 rms all day without rebuilding it, and for 140, its one of the best subs for the price. But the type r has one design flaw, both coils run out 1 side of the spider, making one side stiffer than the other, which means its prone to failure at max excursion, but as I have said, it takes a lot of power to get it to bottom out, so normally its good, you just cant really compete with them in the heavier stuff, where they would otherwise belong.

    • @mrwolfe0812
      @mrwolfe0812 6 років тому +7

      brandyn rhode they still cost too much for the class they belong to, I will stick to my dd 99s.

  • @robertthomas3862
    @robertthomas3862 5 років тому +14

    Lol I was waiting for a show down. You need to do them one at a time bro and truly test the battle.

  • @scottbrittain5167
    @scottbrittain5167 4 роки тому +53

    Better comparison would have been the type X against the W7

  • @2sonadon
    @2sonadon 2 роки тому +17

    This is a unmatched unfair battle the alpine should be a type X sub against the w7 but the sun seven can get lows that the alpine can’t so it still be unmatched

  • @wadehensley5005
    @wadehensley5005 7 років тому +13

    the surround on the Type R looks like a fuckin churro lol

  • @slicks8078
    @slicks8078 5 років тому +10

    These two subs couldn't sound more different in person. Proud w7 owner, my boy has those type R 12s. IMO the Rs don't sound natural at all. Worst part is upper end around 65hz-80hz, punchy bass isn't smooth, material of cone partly to blame as you can hear the plastic sound on harder punches. Impressed with the lower end, thats Def where these subs shine. JL on the other hand is smooth and natural sounding throughout all frequencies. Even the punchy bass wasn't lost when going ported, whereas the alpine IMO just sounded bad at 45hz and up in the ported. Coming from a lifelong alpine fan, long before I got into jl. I love the older alpine decks, and their components, namely the type r 6.5s are very impressive, but Their subs have continued to worsen over the years. For the record I was comparing two type r 12s in a ported box (1.5 per chamber) vs one 10w7 in the jl HO box (1.25). Again, just my opinion.

    • @strangerdanger1271
      @strangerdanger1271 5 років тому +1

      Why would you proud of a subwoofer? Did you design it?

    • @slicks8078
      @slicks8078 5 років тому +14

      @@strangerdanger1271 I clearly typed 'proud owner', and not that I was proud of the subwoofer. Once you become literate, your mom just might be proud of you.

    • @bnstalls8949
      @bnstalls8949 2 роки тому +1

      This comparison is stupid how could you tell anything when both are playing at same time? Must be comparing power only not sound. And to Slick S I agree with you on lots of points especially the old school Alpines the 7909 is legendary I loved the 7390 back in the tape days. And I agree that W7 sound better but they should look at price tag! I think JL is over priced and over rated! If one is talking about SPL Competitions NO ONE RUNS JL ANYTHING! For SQ yeah there alright no better then alright but not worth anything close to there price tag! For that kind of money there is far superior subs for even less lots less! I've been installing for years first time I heard of them was I had to build a box for (3) 8w6s first gen and after I was done next day I went and bought (3) 12w6s I loved them back then they were expensive but now they have lost there minds! DC Audio, Crossfire, Hutchinson just quickly of the the top of my head all have far better subs for less! And what they put out depends on what you put them in sealed or ported what they are tuned to etc. But I must say JL has the BEST shallow mounts I've ever heard! I have friends who are at opposite side of spectrum I have a friend who runs all Mosconi power to Morel Supremos and another friend who just dropped $12,000 on (4) 18" Pride Audio subs powered by 56,000 watts of B2 power. So I know people on both sides of car audio which doesn't make me anybody but I went to school for mobile electronics installation in 1995 so I've been around some. But this is just my 2 cents.

    • @slicks8078
      @slicks8078 2 роки тому

      @@bnstalls8949 I agree with you as well. The 7909 was legendary, I still have a cda-9855 that I'll never part with. I would've loved to hear the 8w6 setup or your three w6s. I ran two 12w6v2 sealed and it was one of the best setups I've ever had. Price tag is a little too much though. Thankfully my 13w7 has lasted me over a decade, and I just removed it from my ported box, so I can hear it sealed.

    • @bnstalls8949
      @bnstalls8949 2 роки тому

      @@slicks8078 Interesting do let me know the results! If I can ask what type of music do u listen to mostly? And is there a preference when it comes to ported or sealed?

  • @Jayz689-
    @Jayz689- 4 роки тому +55

    I like the look of the JL sub 🔥

    • @jameswalker1930
      @jameswalker1930 4 роки тому +4

      JL!

    • @Basshead304
      @Basshead304 4 роки тому +2

      Yea the JL subwoofer does look good

    • @inkdreaper874
      @inkdreaper874 3 роки тому +9

      JL is high end audio equipment. Looks are subjective. Performance is what matters, and JL will out do Alpine 100%

    • @princetigerbeatz9316
      @princetigerbeatz9316 3 роки тому +5

      @@Basshead304 Alpine is ugly and cheap design.

    • @paulpopp1999
      @paulpopp1999 3 роки тому

      @@inkdreaper874 exactly 💯!!!

  • @7Logik
    @7Logik Рік тому +8

    A W6 would've been a better comparison as both the R and w6 are gearing for SQ. And have very similar power handling numbers I've had both subs and I can tell you that W6 sounds better but the alpines are built well , they look amazing Also the Motor ,casing and surrounds are much better , love the Kevlar surrounds they're phenomenal

    • @joshholden8561
      @joshholden8561 Рік тому +1

      Alpine subs are a lot better than a Jl

    • @troycote4503
      @troycote4503 Рік тому +3

      @@joshholden8561Alpine makes the best Deck, headunits, And the F1 series is absolutely incredible, but the subs??? I have to say that's very questionable. I'd put W 6 or w7 subs in my ride before and alpine subs but it's not as big of a difference as people make this out to be. Alpine makes great products but JL makes the best Sub for SQ but can still slam when needed.

    • @tbgguwap5253
      @tbgguwap5253 11 місяців тому

      I had 2 12s Type r man they beat the block up too much bass

  • @frankrivera9083
    @frankrivera9083 5 років тому +14

    Cool video bro 👍🏼👍🏼 but i think that a few people mentioned that you should run the subs at different times and with the correct tuning box and meter them so u can kno 4 shr which one sounded the best truthfully i always like the JLs better but in this video the Alpine Type R did sound better i don't kno maybe it was the box or maybe something else but wel i guess in this case seeing is believing or should i say hearing is believing✌🏼💪🏼🔈💪🏼🔉💪🏼🔊

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z 8 місяців тому +1

    The W6 on a 600-watt produces insane bass and pressure. I was blown away.

  • @ali19186
    @ali19186 4 роки тому +35

    To me alpine can get louder but Jl has that low bass it’s so clean and smooth

    • @mosespassi2816
      @mosespassi2816 4 роки тому +2

      Yep very true 👌👌

    • @juliobello4561
      @juliobello4561 3 роки тому

      My brother impressed me with his type r in velodyne sub box in his home theater system it go really low

    • @FATMIKED5183
      @FATMIKED5183 3 роки тому +9

      If you've ever heard a 12w7 in an HO enclosure,it's stupid loud.There's no way you're beating that with one type r 12.Most people run their alpine subs in crappy prefab boxes,so 1 w7 in a proper box would prob walk all over most people's setups with 2 type Rs

  • @jorgem50
    @jorgem50 6 років тому +64

    Many will talk about the durability of the Alpine's but I've owned two 10" type S for over a year feeding them true 1200rms and they take it like no other. Dollar for dollar, you can't go wrong with Alpine. Sure, the W7 sounds amazing but shit, look at the price..fuck that

    • @kcmullins6179
      @kcmullins6179 3 роки тому +1

      Iv owned a few different model alpines in the past and still have a set of em that I no longer use. But I had the alpine type E 12"s the white cone with the Black E in the middle and honestly they hit hard in a sealed box flexed the windshield we had em on a clarion 1200 watt mono block and they took it no issues for a good while then I sold em and ended up picking up the alpine type X 12s and holy shit was they loud lol I had them in a Virtual technologies vented box on two Skar 2500s and I ran em for about two years off and on. You can't go wrong with em even the entry level old type Es took power and slammed.

    • @jorgem50
      @jorgem50 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChaseFanatic i currently have two ten inch fosgates hx2 from the year 2000. Mfkrs still banging hard!

    • @princetigerbeatz9316
      @princetigerbeatz9316 3 роки тому

      @@jorgem50 I don't buy cheap Subs bro.JL W7 12's is beasty.I made hairtricks with 2 12's.

    • @jorgem50
      @jorgem50 3 роки тому +1

      @@princetigerbeatz9316 good for you

    • @JG-fl1xd
      @JG-fl1xd 3 роки тому

      Hola muchachos tengo una pregunta, esta bien que conecte una JL13W7 a un amplificador Kicker zx 1500.1? Gracias

  • @KGReef
    @KGReef 5 років тому +11

    Are these in the same airspace? Also sealed enclosures are not made for SPL. These subs are not on the same level

  • @truckomize9326
    @truckomize9326 5 років тому +25

    That JL is a beast and needs the whole box for itself

    • @jackle842000
      @jackle842000 3 роки тому

      Decent yeah. A beast Not quite.

    • @kamakazecrxsi85
      @kamakazecrxsi85 3 роки тому +5

      Why hate on jl. The w7 is a beast u can listen to it sll day with great sq an still beat the block down. Its not a spl sub u use for 2 runs at a contest

    • @chadt7482
      @chadt7482 3 роки тому +4

      I have a 10 yr old 10w7 that I run with a jl 500/1 and its taken so much abuse over these 10 years and still sounds just as good as the day I bought it

    • @christopherparis6841
      @christopherparis6841 Рік тому

      Cause it's a POS wtf single 12 wants 6 cuft

  • @ramonhopson4524
    @ramonhopson4524 6 років тому +14

    I been bumping type r since the first series, 2 twelves at the time, now I'm killing with my four 15's I'm going alpine.... forever. #jl'sinThebasement#

    • @idkdrew
      @idkdrew 5 років тому

      Couldn’t afford the JLs?

    • @jeffrothegamer
      @jeffrothegamer 5 років тому

      I have ran different brands jl, alpine type e n skars n fosgates immback to p3’s again myself good sq! They arent spl’s but you can make em hit

  • @ULSB1969
    @ULSB1969 5 років тому +8

    The type r is crap compare to the w7, there is no comparison. Even if you go with the alpine type x, which is better than the type r, the jl w7 will smoke it. So you can convince yourself which one has more spl and sq, why don’t you test them individually with an spl tester? This video sucks! Playing both at the same time and not doing any spl testing, HOW PATHETIC!!!!

    • @tomkaufman3914
      @tomkaufman3914 3 роки тому

      Yes and you pay $1600 for a w-7, a bit overrated yah think

    • @Kxngdaniel05
      @Kxngdaniel05 3 роки тому

      People pay 1000$ for a JL w7 and you can get yourself 3 alpine type r with 1000$

    • @ULSB1969
      @ULSB1969 3 роки тому

      @@tomkaufman3914 doesn’t matter what the price is, woofer to woofer, the JL W7 reigns supreme.

    • @ULSB1969
      @ULSB1969 3 роки тому

      @@Kxngdaniel05 you can get more type r’s for less money, but do you have the space to put them in and still have room to do your errands and carry your purchases and haul people around? With JLW7’s you have the room, the spl and quality!

    • @brentb5303
      @brentb5303 3 роки тому

      @@ULSB1969 You need to go hear an original CV stroker. You won't give two chits about the w7 after. I've owned them both. I also put the 18w6 ahead of the 13w7.

  • @skateboardkid420
    @skateboardkid420 7 років тому +109

    where is the showdown, this is just you playing both, strap the amps to each one on a meter and get back to us with SPL

    • @michaelvickers89
      @michaelvickers89  7 років тому +16

      Your absolutely right and next time I do one of these videos I will definitely do that 👍

    • @brandonmiller3720
      @brandonmiller3720 7 років тому +16

      FAST & LOUD !!! MICHAEL VICKERS isn't that what you said about this video. It's going to be a true spl comparison. And if you actually think that those hifonics amps are putting out a true 1700w you've lost your silly little mind! 🤣😂

    • @alfa7108
      @alfa7108 5 років тому +1

      Lol. Tru, VERY Tru. crappy vid

    • @amanteapasionado6836
      @amanteapasionado6836 5 років тому +18

      SPL numbers dont matter if your looking for sound quality which a type R cant compete with a W7

    • @peterkay2406
      @peterkay2406 5 років тому +5

      someone actually making sense here

  • @Contact_Info
    @Contact_Info Рік тому +1

    All you youngsters have your own opinions. Type R is a phenomenal sub for most people. I've owned Kicker Q class 12 and the R 12 has more bass. Each had their own manufacturer enclosure. Same MTX Jackhammer amp 10001, running 775 watts RMS.

  • @freeradical431
    @freeradical431 3 роки тому +1

    This put a smile on my face! Thanku! lol. Nothing like another woofer FLOP spl vid with no testing at all. I think all three are sharing the same air space. lol

  • @nexiabiamp
    @nexiabiamp 3 роки тому +9

    I’m so confused. Is this an SPL Showdown? They need to be in SEPARATE SPEC BUILT BOXES, each played one at a time, with an SPL meter. I’m just assuming you’re trolling. In which case, well done.

  • @paulpopp1999
    @paulpopp1999 3 роки тому +18

    This is a inaccurate test and for the record the W7 will win as usual hands down.

  • @notorious647
    @notorious647 5 років тому +17

    All I see is W7 flexing alot more than the R12. Both good subs, but I'd say the R12 is far more durable.

    • @myhops
      @myhops 5 років тому +4

      The 12w7 is actually far more efficient. It hits just as hard but doesn't need as much power. My previous 12 inch subs always dimmed my headlights, but my 12w7 is good on the same amp. Headlights never dim, and it's slightly louder and 50x cleaner than my older Kaption SPL1200s which were 600 watts rms each.

    • @jamesfleischmann3406
      @jamesfleischmann3406 5 років тому +10

      Youre Stupid As Fuck ill give you that

    • @dominicmartinez6004
      @dominicmartinez6004 5 років тому +3

      The w7 moves more for one because its on less ohms and because it has a longer coil

    • @cjon24s69
      @cjon24s69 4 роки тому +1

      Dominic Martinez And also has more xmax a softer suspension so it takes less power to move the cone

  • @armandomorenoromero8531
    @armandomorenoromero8531 2 роки тому +1

    i think you did a great job comparing both at the same time in the same Box with the same current feed,you apriciate the difference,

  • @ct350r
    @ct350r 4 роки тому +12

    You can’t compare a type r to a w7 lol,, compare it to a alpine type x tho

    • @LAZYLOS61
      @LAZYLOS61 3 роки тому

      The Type X is far better in both quality and Performance.

    • @jasonsmith3257
      @jasonsmith3257 3 роки тому +2

      Jl all day i never seen type x win a comp jl since the 90s

  • @Ronco160
    @Ronco160 5 років тому +11

    Before even watching the vid I know the type r doesn’t come close to the W7. But the type r is better value. The w7 is way overpriced.

    • @shucks_sesd_6195
      @shucks_sesd_6195 4 роки тому

      Ronco160 fuck yea

    • @markmaynard8105
      @markmaynard8105 4 роки тому +1

      The type r is not equal with the JL... type x is though...

    • @Ronco160
      @Ronco160 4 роки тому

      Mark Maynard. I have the type x. Not sure I’d say it’s equal to the w7 but it’s def closer then type r. The type x Is def a better deal. I mean the w7 does have crazy high resale value on eBay and they do sound awesome.

    • @inkdreaper874
      @inkdreaper874 3 роки тому

      Alpine can't compete with JL. JL is worth every penny. Been using JL in all of my vehicles for 19 years now. I owned the W7, 13.5 and the Slash 1000 1v1. That thing was an absolute nightmare... in a good way😂. I'd never turn my back on JL. Their products have never failed me.

    • @Ronco160
      @Ronco160 3 роки тому

      @@inkdreaper874 I just don’t like cheap plastic cones with thin single spiders among other things. Just screams cheap to me.

  • @joewise428
    @joewise428 5 років тому +3

    This is dudes actual system. They was both probably given to him. Just to embarrassed to admit it's his everyday, so he came up with this far fetched story of a battle between the two. They both get down.

  • @douglasRbrown
    @douglasRbrown 5 років тому +72

    Sucked I want the 8-min of my life back

    • @RAMON20IES
      @RAMON20IES 5 років тому +4

      Douglas Brown
      Agreed!!! Gay aF

    • @ligmaballer
      @ligmaballer 4 роки тому

      Almost 9 min

    • @Basshead304
      @Basshead304 4 роки тому

      I agree there was no comparison

    • @jimboslice5501
      @jimboslice5501 3 роки тому

      Thanks, I ain’t even gonna waste my time! 😂

  • @1482man
    @1482man 5 років тому +5

    Okay, so where’s the showdown? All I saw was you playing both ...

    • @801MOTO3
      @801MOTO3 4 роки тому

      Thats certainly a showdown lol. He's pushing them both hard as hell to see if they can compare to eachother. Will 1 blow? Both blow? Neither blow? Catch on fire? Lol. Thats a show down.

  • @MrDougbegay
    @MrDougbegay 6 років тому +8

    Haha the JL Audio has 1.5 ohm coils so it's gettin more power from the amp. Plus the enclosures are small. But cost wise the Alpine gets it too.

    • @freehassan2585
      @freehassan2585 6 років тому +1

      Douglas Begay
      Sorry you mean it’s a single 3 ohm subwoofer so either way one subwoofer is getting more power than the other

    • @2869may
      @2869may 5 років тому

      People like to talk sh!t, But the Type R is a pretty damn good sub for the money... SQ isn't bad and can take a pounding like a cheap whore....
      JL is a SQ sub that is designed to run efficiently, Not to be pushed HARD at full RMS for SPL. JL is for connoisseurs not Bass heads...

    • @2869may
      @2869may 5 років тому

      @@freehassan2585 I've heard that 3 ohms creates a problem for many amps....

    • @charlesstuck4965
      @charlesstuck4965 5 років тому +1

      @@2869may that's why you buy the matching jl amp hahaha

    • @2869may
      @2869may 5 років тому +1

      @@charlesstuck4965 I've had the JL Slash 250/1 which actually puts out around 300 watts regardless of ohm load down to 1.
      With 2 W1 12's people could not believe that little amp beat those 12's like it did. I would tell them it was the combination of the CLEAN power and the efficiency of the W1 subs... It's hard to beat JL stuff when used together.

  • @lanewarriorillridez3739
    @lanewarriorillridez3739 4 роки тому +1

    If there's a sub that JL Audio W7s or Rockford Fosgate T2s would fear is the sadly discontinued JBL W12GTI MK2 12 inch sub at $799. Its a dual 6ohm, 4000 peak & underated at 700 rms, Kevlar paper cone, Nitrile-butylene surround, 3" voice coil, frequency response of 18hz-1000hz, max sealed box volume of 1.0 cubic feet, max ported box volume of 2.25 cubic feet, top-mount depth of 10-1/4", cutout diameter of 11" and very sensitive at 91db which most 12inch subs are in the 80s in db. I can only imagine what level this JBL sub would be as a current improved model today.

    • @unharmonix
      @unharmonix 11 місяців тому

      Agreed. I had one in a custom made ported box tuned to I think 30 or 32 hz. In any case, it was amazing and could get really, really low bass, still very loud. I miss that thing! I ran it on an Alpine MRX-M110 800rms amp, and tuned it with the oscilloscope. Thing was perfect

  • @thecloudymisfit2968
    @thecloudymisfit2968 5 років тому +3

    Is nobody gonna talk about how much the type r was clipping when he put the camera up to it

  • @dyang1982
    @dyang1982 5 років тому +3

    I replaced 2 of my type R's with a single W7 with JL's HO box. The w7 is a far better build and sound quality is superb. But then again we're also not comparing apples to apples.
    Powered by JL 1000/1

    • @MT-ru1oh
      @MT-ru1oh 4 роки тому +1

      im just getting back into the game after 11 years out. i always heard jL was a quality sub seems like jL puts out a deep clear bass am i wrong? never owned any of these brands

    • @victorgammon7663
      @victorgammon7663 2 роки тому

      @@MT-ru1oh alpine better its all about the box that w7 was sweating on 1700w type r needed double that it's laughing at the w7

  • @peterotremba8980
    @peterotremba8980 5 років тому +5

    Nice setup! What is the name of the song, I have spent so much time looking for the name of the song, I cannot find it! anyone know the song?

  • @iamnitrox
    @iamnitrox Рік тому +2

    I think I'd put the type R against w5 or a W6 maybe.

  • @kelseylantz1989
    @kelseylantz1989 7 місяців тому

    2 12w7 powered by my 2 1000w rockford fosgate amps. Absolutely love what they produce.

  • @makaveli087
    @makaveli087 6 років тому +21

    Alpine Type R is an excellent product but that JL W7 is just there like "Is there poor people near by? Something really annoying is to my left while I'm trying to work here..."

    • @davidgee6452
      @davidgee6452 5 років тому

      Jl fan boys are like iPhone fan boys lol both products are trash and they just. Smt seem to admit it lol

    • @cjon24s69
      @cjon24s69 4 роки тому +2

      David Gee W7s arent trash at all they just overpriced

    • @shucks_sesd_6195
      @shucks_sesd_6195 4 роки тому +1

      David Gee w7 are trash wtf u must not know about systems, go back to your mtx

    • @cjon24s69
      @cjon24s69 4 роки тому +2

      Arturo Pesqueira 619 T.W.T trucker w7 are one of the best 1000 watt subs on the market, they are way overpriced for their output to price but definitely one of the best beefy sq subs

    • @shucks_sesd_6195
      @shucks_sesd_6195 4 роки тому

      crazy coop yes way overpriced but subs are bass heads material

  • @bobyblaccc30
    @bobyblaccc30 5 років тому +4

    Its pretty clear that people are partial to the brands they like and know of but for those that dont know these are both very good subs . The alpine will handle more power overall but the JL has a more forgiving spider compliance and surround to accommodate its cooling factor. In this video, it's like comparing a sundown vs. An orion hcca. I'm currently using a Type R for my test bench in a sealed box around 1.4 cubes give or take and it get low with 400 watts rms . Got it from a friend of mine who had it wired @ 8 ohms yeah 8 ohms lol to an Orion hcca 5k . That amp does 3k at 4 ohms on a test bench at 14.4 volts lol just to give you a ball park of what it does at an 8ohm load. That one Type R could be heard a block away in his van in the sealed box and the gain was just shy of being all the way down. So yeah the type R s love power and the blow because of too less power or bad signal such as clipping. Just to get you heads thinking. Excuse any typos. But you get the picture.

    • @banditthesiberian8156
      @banditthesiberian8156 Рік тому +1

      What that alpine is clipping and blowing Already!! The alpine will handle more power??? No just no not even close like we high school football compared to the Super Bowl

  • @rowboyto156
    @rowboyto156 7 років тому +54

    That box is too small for the w7 possibly the type r too. I had a w7 12 inch and the ported box took my whole trunk also the w7 sounds way different when powered by jl amps. First i had a 1200 watt brutus amp then switch to a 500/1 and the w7 hit much harder and bass notes were tighter. It blew my mind how an amp can change the characteristic of the sub

    • @2869may
      @2869may 7 років тому +6

      JL amps are very clean and underrated...

    • @jaytrukk9483
      @jaytrukk9483 6 років тому +9

      I tell people all of the time that if you're not going to buy a JL slash amp you shouldn't buy the JL subs. Much cleaner and deeper bass with a JL amp.

    • @AndrewB23
      @AndrewB23 6 років тому

      James Dimmock I'm using my alpine MRX-M100 on my 10w7 and this thing slaps I'll get a good 3 inches of excursion and a nice clean deep bass

    • @SaGeMitis
      @SaGeMitis 6 років тому

      jr87 .55- 1 cu ft

    • @bobsyouruncle8052
      @bobsyouruncle8052 5 років тому +3

      damping factor slew rate so forth have alot to do with the quality of your bass

  • @D.V.S.1
    @D.V.S.1 Рік тому

    How the heck can you tell the difference if you play them together? Shouldn't you have done them separately? 🤔

  • @snake_eater71
    @snake_eater71 2 роки тому +4

    That W7 was about to jump out of the box.
    I don't know what fasteners you used, but I'd recommend 1/4" or 5/16" lag screws and a bead of urethane windshield sealant.

    • @sinceninetyeightysixgustof8122
      @sinceninetyeightysixgustof8122 2 роки тому +1

      I just ordered the w7ae-3 with the jl audio high output box built for that sub and when I was reading up on the anniversary edition there are 20 patents on it one being for its proprietary screws for the anniversary edition amd there are 20 of them the old w7's have 14

    • @snake_eater71
      @snake_eater71 2 роки тому

      @@sinceninetyeightysixgustof8122 proprietary screws?
      Impressive.
      JBL is definitely quality.

    • @mikegriego3671
      @mikegriego3671 6 місяців тому

      I'd just sell it and buy 2 IA Death Penalty 12"s that will hit much harder.

  • @strangerdanger1271
    @strangerdanger1271 5 років тому +12

    It does not matter if you had 100 batteries that amp is never making. 1700 watts.

    • @supremetakio69
      @supremetakio69 5 років тому

      Serously tho

    • @dannyvenegas3086
      @dannyvenegas3086 4 роки тому

      Stranger Danger it actually would in a dynamic dyno so 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @mtcoiner7994
    @mtcoiner7994 Рік тому +3

    I have never tried the JL's but I used to have 2 type R 12's with dual 2 ohm coils I believe. They were pretty stinkin loud. My Solo Barracks were louder though.

    • @theboss9788
      @theboss9788 7 місяців тому

      I just swapped 2 type R for 2 W7 and I actually liked the type R better. The w7 pounded a little harder, but the alpine just sounded better in my opinion

    • @mikegriego3671
      @mikegriego3671 6 місяців тому

      I currently have 2 type R 12s sitting by the wayside because I upgraded to a set of Incriminator audio Death Row 12"s that hit harder and sound better than my type Rs ever could. I'd argue that my DR's probably hit harder than a set of overpriced JL w7's. W7s can take 1k rms while my DR's can take 1500rms each and cost 1/3 the price of a w7. IA next step up is the Death Penalty that has the same xmax as a w7 and still costs half the price with twice the power handling. JL truly is overpriced crap.

    • @mtcoiner7994
      @mtcoiner7994 6 місяців тому

      @@mikegriego3671 Perhaps. I'm literally talking a decade ago. I'm sure the field looks a lot different these days. I haven't priced out speakers since I had my first kid 8.5 years ago.

  • @DaDonBossMan
    @DaDonBossMan 7 років тому +23

    Is the box at least dual chambered?

    • @joeybrennan3893
      @joeybrennan3893 4 роки тому +1

      Probably not lol

    • @salbatres3504
      @salbatres3504 4 роки тому

      @@joeybrennan3893 it was lol, you can clearly see the 2 separate ports lol don't know how you guys can't tell.. 😂

    • @lunchie80
      @lunchie80 3 роки тому +1

      @@salbatres3504 2 ports doesn't mean dual chambered. You can put as many ports as you want in a box.

    • @salbatres3504
      @salbatres3504 3 роки тому

      @@lunchie80 yes that is correct. The number of ports has nothing to do with how many chambers a box has. There's no way to tell from the outside but in this instance, he had mentioned in a another video the box was dual chambered.

  • @jv1984ply
    @jv1984ply 5 років тому +33

    No caparison here man... JL w7 will murder that type r straight tfu

    • @RAMON20IES
      @RAMON20IES 5 років тому +1

      Jovon delahoussaye
      Cheap fuckers hate on real subs!

    • @Duke-ih8mo
      @Duke-ih8mo 5 років тому

      @@RAMON20IES frfr im looking for a new set up i never heard a jl

    • @peterkay2406
      @peterkay2406 5 років тому +4

      I don't see it murdering anything, type R is hanging right in there and it's a fraction of the cost of the JL

    • @Vic_714
      @Vic_714 4 роки тому

      lmao fr

    • @juliobello4561
      @juliobello4561 3 роки тому

      To me type r are in the same level w7
      I think people just get to attach to the brand.
      They’re not the best but not the worst either

  • @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib
    @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib 6 років тому +9

    Jl audio problem is the foam surround cracks over time guaranteed

    • @kennyperson6844
      @kennyperson6844 6 років тому

      Luis Gonzalez happened to my w7’s😢

    • @lowcountrysmoke
      @lowcountrysmoke 6 років тому +4

      Been beating my 10w6v3 everyday for 4 years and still good as ever

    • @tammyforbes2101
      @tammyforbes2101 6 років тому +1

      Luis Gonzalez when will this happen cause my 13w7’s have been in my trunk for 5 almost 6 years and they look just like they day I got them.

    • @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib
      @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib 6 років тому +1

      Tammy Forbes one day

    • @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib
      @LuisGonzalez-fy1ib 6 років тому

      Thomas Marshall not every body is capable of doing the job and for a sub that cost a fortune should not be doing that.

  • @supergenius74
    @supergenius74 10 місяців тому

    so this isn't a showdown of SPL it was just a test to see if each sub could handle a hyphonics amp. a real comparison would be to test each woofer max db on the same amp to so which outputs more.

  • @rodx5571
    @rodx5571 6 років тому +1

    I used to run 4 alpine type R DVC 12's (gen 1 with round surrounds not the pleated like shown in the vid) in bandpass enclosures, in the trunk of a 93 Taurus SHO, blew the trunk lid off, literally, the metal fatigue around the latch on the lid tore it out after a few weeks. I was running a JL 1800 D class monoblock with controls, and a Power acoustic active X-over with a tewakable boost curve from 33 hz to 80 hz, about 40 or so was optimal. the DVC Alpines were Banging. I then went to 2 10 W7's (Gen 1), computer modeled ported enclosures (33 hz was the port tune) and those things were over the top cleaner, louder, and more musical than the Alpines, and took up less than half the space. The JL's hurt . with the system i had you couldnt sit in the car at 3/4 volume. and it was clean.. multiple Polk audio front and rear stage mid bass mid range and tweets. Gel cell batteries and about 3 farads of capacitance. Still have most of the equipment, but i am old now so it sits in the closets (yeah one closet isnt big enough) plus all of my "trial and error" purchases that i didnt like.

    • @joshfrench7483
      @joshfrench7483 6 років тому

      Rod X so your saying you want to cut a felliw basshead a good deal on the w7s then right??? Lol

    • @rodx5571
      @rodx5571 6 років тому +1

      Josh French no what I am saying is I need a full size van with beefed up suspension.EDIT: and immunity from prosecution on the city state and local noise ordinance. I had my system hitting so hard it would skip the disc at the radio station. 😜

  • @jr-md3gx
    @jr-md3gx 6 років тому +6

    build 2 Separate, proper enclosures. Do burps, sweeps etc...

  • @ALVINDUCHANE
    @ALVINDUCHANE 7 років тому +18

    U really wanna see what a type r can do , put it in a pro box or a fox box, the better it breathes the more it will produce I promise u. Those sub are amazing and the simple build quality is magnificent. That jl can't take the long-time pounding that type r can, I know cause I have both of them an the type r lasted the longest, I'm still beating em down, I sold the jl's 3 yrs ago

    • @morgan8801
      @morgan8801 7 років тому +8

      If the alpine lasted longer it's because you don't know what the fuck your doing. Or a liar. Either or your stupid

    • @pauls1427
      @pauls1427 6 років тому +6

      Yea Ive been in car audio 17 years. You have no clue... Alpine only make radios. Anything else alpine is garbage. JK they make okay amps

    • @apocalypse4720
      @apocalypse4720 6 років тому +1

      lol maybe sound quality but its nowhere near the loudest, i had 2 ab xfl 12s that kicked them w7s ass before, for the price jl is not worth it and before you guys talk shit, them xfls was hitting over a 150

    • @juliobello4561
      @juliobello4561 6 років тому +3

      Beer O'plenty I think you only been in the game in commercial brands come on kickers are the starting pack and JL is the upgrade of kickers

    • @eddiedow3757
      @eddiedow3757 6 років тому +3

      The JL is only meant to run 3-1.5 ohms unless they use a slash or HD JL Audio mono amp to push the W7 it won't be optimal to be fair they both should be ran in their optimal 3ft enclosure and turning . I run Hertz,Audison,JL,Brax and Helix audio. All quality equipment ,the saying ( You get what you pay for)is very true. I been building systems almost 30 years now and have yet to find better audio quality than the 5 audio designer's I use. Well Brax and Helix are sister company's so they may only count as one . He'll come to think of it I believe Hertz and Audison are sister company's as well. Alpine isn't bad if you buy the European built equipment. Then the price doubles., But it will last for more than a few minutes, hours,days,years. You never know. Back when Alpine and Motorola where partners they built quality . Now it's more quantity and cheaper parts (hence ) failure.

  • @goma_de_nutela2711
    @goma_de_nutela2711 11 місяців тому

    What kind of comparison is this? Each sub must be in its box and with the correct measurements.

  • @Legalizeranch420
    @Legalizeranch420 10 місяців тому

    Both great subs love how beef the jlw7 looks my friend back in 06 had a single 12 and my other buddy had the alpine type r 15 they hit hard

  • @gerardjacob1010
    @gerardjacob1010 5 років тому +5

    Box too small . And you need todo separately each sub. And the bos NEEDS to be a bigger ported. Thinks twice before you do something. All you doing right now is holding the real power of the subs.

    • @salbatres3504
      @salbatres3504 4 роки тому

      The box is separate and ported 😂😂what are you talking about bro lol.

  • @210Designs
    @210Designs 7 років тому +5

    Great vid man 👍🏽 I love seeing different testing and people's experiments 👌🏾

  • @shaunstruzyk3456
    @shaunstruzyk3456 4 роки тому +2

    SUNDOWN. THATS ALL💪

    • @inkdreaper874
      @inkdreaper874 3 роки тому +1

      Sundown, I believe, is definitely JL's biggest competition. They do sound and look great, but I've always been a JL guy.

    • @shaunstruzyk3456
      @shaunstruzyk3456 3 роки тому

      @@inkdreaper874 run in 2 x15s. In my 2019 ram

  • @macalla1996
    @macalla1996 3 роки тому +1

    Screw the show down that'll be nice just to have both awesome brands in that closure considering I would suggest a better subwoofer enclosure. If you want to be technical all subwoofers/speakers are made the same they have a magnet, coil, cone area, Omega, power to weight, ratio root mean square blah blah blah.
    Nice though!

  • @artlara2718
    @artlara2718 5 років тому +6

    That JL is like more power plz...

  • @CheetoChop1
    @CheetoChop1 5 років тому +16

    Japanese don't make good speakers. The alpine comes nothing close to dropping as low as the w7.

    • @etriganseven6042
      @etriganseven6042 5 років тому +1

      Incorrect

    • @CheetoChop1
      @CheetoChop1 5 років тому +1

      @@etriganseven6042 Memphis, JBL, Boston Acoustics, Focal, Kicker etc etc. None are Japanese. They do make good radios tho. The old eclipse 8 volts were and still are the best.

    • @danielthornton3277
      @danielthornton3277 5 років тому

      Not everyone wants bleeding eardrums

    • @CheetoChop1
      @CheetoChop1 5 років тому

      @@danielthornton3277 nobody said anything about bleeding eardrums so what's your point?

    • @gratitudeattitude7649
      @gratitudeattitude7649 3 роки тому

      that is not the case,sry misinformation drives me crazy,depending on the box both these subs hit very very low frequency

  • @ltitus8900
    @ltitus8900 2 роки тому

    Uhmm.... What comparison is there to be made by putting them in the same box??

  • @slapskins420
    @slapskins420 5 років тому +2

    I love when the bass first drops and they start waving and flexing .. push it to the limit I dont think I have ever seen in person woofers flexin and waving dat hard

    • @egoliday2
      @egoliday2 4 роки тому

      The Alpine is slick belly dancing

    • @salbatres3504
      @salbatres3504 4 роки тому

      That only shows on camera because it can't capture the movement in person it would look normal lol I use to think the same thing

  • @nikoreyes3506
    @nikoreyes3506 5 років тому +5

    @1:58 you know the subs are gonna last a long time when you hear that sound and you know they aren't in the right boxes. RIP TO a $700 woofer

  • @treydaypnw
    @treydaypnw 5 років тому +3

    Man I'll tell you, even though the world was already aware of this, Nothing i mean nothing Slaps like JL Subwoofers in the proper enclosure with the right amount of Power and the Gains Set right....my homeboy had one W6 10" in a Band pass Box and a JL 500 Watt Monoblock Amplifier i believe and that shit straight Blasted out the Trunk, sounded Amazing!

  • @sportsmansparadice42
    @sportsmansparadice42 4 роки тому +1

    You should try them facing up instead of facing the rear.

  • @smalltimer4370
    @smalltimer4370 8 місяців тому +1

    How is this a showdown?
    You have two different subs sharing airspace within the same enclosure lol

  • @ELCARIN310
    @ELCARIN310 5 років тому +8

    Have in Mind the type r may be wire to 2 ohm and the w7 single 3 ohm different amount of power for each one 😎

    • @salbatres3504
      @salbatres3504 4 роки тому

      I think the type r was dual 2ohm wired to one and he was claiming the w7 was custom and 1 ohm go check his other video.

  • @carlosdeleon6364
    @carlosdeleon6364 5 років тому +9

    Why didn't you go with a Type X.

  • @lilcurtisdavidson4724
    @lilcurtisdavidson4724 5 років тому

    I honestly.cant believe people are debating the alpine r type sub compares to the jl w7... PEOPLE... THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!! JL AUDIO PRODUCES ONE OF THE BEST SUBS ON THE MARKET, HANDS DOWN. IVE OWNED KICKER SOLOBARIC L7S, ECLIPSE (ALUMINUM & TITANIUM) ORION HCCA, ALPINE TYPR R, ROCKFORD P1.......... Only 2 subs I will purchase, own, and use are JL W7's and ORION HCCA. They are in a league or their own.

  • @optimusprimer4392
    @optimusprimer4392 2 роки тому +2

    The Alpine hits hard but it has too much mechanical noise the JL Audio is soft and less forceful but nonetheless clean and low

  • @AWThethrower
    @AWThethrower 5 років тому +3

    Clearing the type r is flexing way less, so its going to be putting out a much cleaner sound. Better in my eyes

    • @lanewarriorillridez3739
      @lanewarriorillridez3739 4 роки тому

      Correct, that was Alpine's idea behind its newly released R-Type 12inch sub competing with the MTX 9500 sub back in the early 2000s. Alot less sloppy bass than the MTX 9500 and the Kicker Solo Baric L7s. A few years later came the stupid expensive JL audio W7 12inch sub and the almost as expensive Rockford Fosgate's top T2 12inch sub.

    • @inkdreaper874
      @inkdreaper874 3 роки тому +2

      😂 that W7, I guarantee, had way smoother bass than that Alpine.

    • @FATMIKED5183
      @FATMIKED5183 3 роки тому

      That's not how any of this works.

    • @AWThethrower
      @AWThethrower 3 роки тому +1

      Wow what a fucking Nooby comment I posted lol. It’s a W7 vs a type r, the w7 will smash it out of the water in both spl and sq haha.

    • @banditthesiberian8156
      @banditthesiberian8156 Рік тому

      Yup you had know idea what your talking about you want a high end speaker to flex that way it handles more power it’s basic physics 😅 congrats for acknowledging your your noobness! achievement unlocked LEARNING! They are made to flex bro

  • @yjjeeper1
    @yjjeeper1 6 років тому +7

    Both great subs when boxed correctly period. You gotta get rid of those garbage ass amps bro.

    • @mrjsuasap2
      @mrjsuasap2 5 років тому +3

      yjjeeper1 😂😂 yep... trash

  • @anandshah71
    @anandshah71 Рік тому

    Peerless STW 350 1-15” driver is the king of subs

  • @inkdreaper874
    @inkdreaper874 3 роки тому +2

    🤣😂 you can't compare JL to Alpine. Alpine is mid-low grade. JL is high end

    • @emanuelesh3006
      @emanuelesh3006 3 роки тому

      you have a big problem, the alpine type R is one of the best subwoofers from Alpine, it is better than the type S, X, G, E and anyway alpine Is top grade not mid grade!

  • @RAMON20IES
    @RAMON20IES 5 років тому +37

    Anybody who says the Type R is better just can’t afford the W7. Case closed !! 😜

    • @amanteapasionado6836
      @amanteapasionado6836 5 років тому +1

      Or never heard a W7 in a proper enclosure

    • @peterkay2406
      @peterkay2406 5 років тому +1

      it's better because it's cheaper, and yes I can afford the w7 have owned one in the past and didn't like it, I currently have 3 pairs of type r and I love them along side of that I have 2 RE audio xx15D and those are even cheaper than the w7 and I guarantee the will kill the w7

    • @Rah-know
      @Rah-know 5 років тому +3

      @@peterkay2406 you a lie, and your breff stank if you think a type R can roast a dub seven on quality and non distorted bass. Its one thing lying on UA-cam, but dont lie to yourself....

    • @peterkay2406
      @peterkay2406 5 років тому

      Dlanor lying? what could I possibly be lying about, I'm dead serious in my comments... for the money I think the type R is better that's my opinion, not saying it's better just for the money I feel it is

    • @Rah-know
      @Rah-know 5 років тому +2

      @@peterkay2406 what kind of bass do you listen to? The two twelves alpine type r I had hooked up to my 1000/1 v2 slash, it bumped no doubt just like any low quality sub with decent power, but the 12 w7 will eat both of those for dinner and you know it.... the louder the dub 7 the cleaner the bass, your music must be 45 hz and up to appreciate a type r, but if you live life 30hz and below 10, 12, 13.5 w7 cannot be touched with the small amount of power feeding them....
      Alpine over jl audio, really? You must think its 1995.... step ya music game up, soft rock doesn't need sub sonic bass...

  • @josenieto9856
    @josenieto9856 5 років тому +3

    Como se llama la canción?
    What's the name of the song?

  • @Snipeuout69
    @Snipeuout69 3 роки тому +1

    Nice! Lots of useful data here...

  • @matthewscholler3413
    @matthewscholler3413 3 роки тому +1

    Is it safe to run those both in the same box?

  • @XJX-hr4br
    @XJX-hr4br 5 років тому +6

    Should used the ALPINE TYPE X since u used the JL AUDIO W7 to make a even playing field

    • @4gbmeans4gb61
      @4gbmeans4gb61 5 років тому

      Even playing field lol? You and this entire video is worthless.

  • @oliverarrieta7001
    @oliverarrieta7001 6 років тому +4

    pound for pound cost, quality ( sound and max rms and peak whats ) the type r is best but for more peak rms and power the best is the w7 by far so it depends in the defenition of best !?

  • @Serezha21
    @Serezha21 6 місяців тому

    I recently bought a Hertz WX38 (first generation.. with an orange emblem and an orange “magnet”, who can say how much more interesting this jl 7 sounds than my hertz, or whether the hertz is still more musical than the jl7?:) if we compare at the same volume! And if you compare two Hertz WX38 against JL7, who will come out the winner? :)

  • @titusdeering9799
    @titusdeering9799 4 роки тому +2

    What is the name of the song

  • @workingclassperson2124
    @workingclassperson2124 3 роки тому +3

    I remember my first beer. Hopefully this guy has either gotten better at audio or left the game. Based on his short vague intro and the fact the JL isn’t mounted properly you can see its frame moving from the baffle,guy has more Money the audio experience and knowledge

  • @RoadRage55
    @RoadRage55 3 роки тому +3

    There about 50 things wrong with this “comparison”, starting with the enclosure is obviously not tuned for BOTH. The W7 should have a 1.5” thick mounting surface, you can see in the video that it’s not even tight to the box. 1700x1 is not putting 1700 into each. I could go on and on..... But everybody knows a W7 will murk an Alpine Type R. 😆

    • @crackazack510
      @crackazack510 3 роки тому

      Foreal. ..Type Rs are good but come on...lol W7 is in its own class of beauty and braun. Best of both worlds sub.

    • @DaSpecimenFL
      @DaSpecimenFL 3 роки тому

      Lmao! I totally agree this video is so bad it's comical! But hey man, I've owned both of these subs and don't count out that Alpine... It's damn legit and sounds fantastic. Does it compare to the JL though? No, it does not, especially in build quality. But bang for your buck definitely goes to that Type R. Also, this guy is using some terrible amps here. Maybe if it was a late 90s Hifonics Zeus I'd take it serious. LoL! I actually owned one a long long time ago powering 3 JL W6 12s and aside from the massive current drain that old school amp was the truth!

    • @coolsquad7428
      @coolsquad7428 3 роки тому

      @@DaSpecimenFL the type x is better then the jl audio because the type x is a huge ass upgrade from the popular type r witch is good for bang for buck but the type x series is a breed of its own but remember the best subs are skar and sundown

    • @DaSpecimenFL
      @DaSpecimenFL 3 роки тому

      @@coolsquad7428 I mean you have a point about that type x but it just makes this video even dumber comparing a type r to that w7. They are two very different subs. Just bang for your buck definitely goes to that Alpine. And as for Skar products... They are definitely nice but as far as bang for your buck again that goes to alpine. I know this for a fact bc I was literally 1 second away from buying all Skar products before my last system and I choose Alpine. The cost made way more sense to me over what I was getting for my money. Keep in mind this includes amps as well so I guess I'm off subs and directly into the company. I was at a Skar dealer and out the door for everything I wanted with Skar was about $4200 and with Alpine it was $2300. And I'm comparing products comparable to one another unlike in this video. And as far as Sundown I don't want to say things about that which I have no knowledge. That being said I'd love to give them a try because I see now they have a huge following. I've always been a JL and Mmatts guy though. Imo you cannot beat a Mmatts amp. Even their subs were great! I don't know about their subs in 2020 but in the past fantastic products especially the amps.

    • @coolsquad7428
      @coolsquad7428 3 роки тому

      @@DaSpecimenFL alpine is the best bang for your buck for me I don’t like kicker because one it is overrated and two it is over priced and three they don’t have good clean low bass especially with there door speakers there door speakers clips like crazy on bass.

  • @willieurus
    @willieurus Рік тому +1

    If u hate on JL THATS CAUSE U DONT HAVE THE FUNDS SIMPLE AS THAT IVE OWNED THE OG JL W6 to the W7 and nothing ever sounds better durability and quality

  • @vellowilson5857
    @vellowilson5857 5 років тому +2

    To be truthful Fi, psi,Sundown, Dc,SQ,Rival are the way to go!!! Them subs are Baby in the Bass world 😂😂

    • @arthurmorgan2480
      @arthurmorgan2480 5 років тому +1

      Ikr Sundown audio is amazing!!!! I currently have 2 MTX 12s but I am definitely looking into sundown...... my MTX subs aren't too bad but Sundown will surely be my next system.

    • @Ole_CornPop
      @Ole_CornPop 3 роки тому

      Deaf Bonce Apocalypse is the one on top as of right now.

    • @Ole_CornPop
      @Ole_CornPop 3 роки тому

      Them Russians don't f*ck around.

  • @Biarkii
    @Biarkii 4 роки тому +3

    JLW7 one of the best subs for SQ systems available

  • @gibbles717
    @gibbles717 5 років тому +5

    Should be a type X vs. W7

  • @jeffsenecal4168
    @jeffsenecal4168 2 роки тому

    These are sooooo soooooo different.... y r they in the same box? Y do this ??

  • @nicholasmcewen8668
    @nicholasmcewen8668 2 роки тому

    how is this a comparison?lt A comparison would have been 2 seperate tests of each speaker measuring the spl of both using the same tracks and power output of the amplifier. You would also want to have them in their own boxes built to spec.

  • @ekjotsingh2174
    @ekjotsingh2174 6 років тому +25

    Jl audio speaker is best

    • @187hulk
      @187hulk 6 років тому

      Ekjot Singh not at all.

    • @jaboogietheskillkillerkill4159
      @jaboogietheskillkillerkill4159 6 років тому

      Ekjot Singh no its not

    • @twiztid6977420
      @twiztid6977420 6 років тому +2

      Yes it is!

    • @truthteam4007
      @truthteam4007 5 років тому +3

      Dumb af putting it in the same box. The people that can’t afford it don’t like it remember that for the haters

    • @sethh8892
      @sethh8892 5 років тому

      @@187hulk Explain? Lol, stfu. Go away now peasant.

  • @traprecopilation8168
    @traprecopilation8168 6 років тому +3

    Como te atreves a poner dos woofer distintos en un mismo cajon

    • @guttycahue
      @guttycahue 5 років тому +1

      Por lo que se ve tiene port de cada lado, lo más seguro es que este separado por dentro

    • @RAFARYReyes
      @RAFARYReyes 5 років тому

      Agustín Cahue se ve que si se defiende también el alpine, apesar de ser de mucho menor power.

    • @Damianslawncare
      @Damianslawncare 5 років тому

      Yo tengo un Q power quizás mi sonido no sea mejor que este pero suena Machín con un bajo tengo lo que quiero y ando a gusto 😁

  • @javierpillajo5543
    @javierpillajo5543 3 роки тому

    Great vidio, with lot of errors of instalation and box but we can se the diference of both a litle bit!

  • @joggernerd8148
    @joggernerd8148 10 місяців тому

    There is a reason I’ve held onto my 13.5 w7 since I got it in 2002. I’ve had to refoam it once.

  • @tammyforbes2101
    @tammyforbes2101 6 років тому +5

    Obviously the JL is the superior sub but I like them both type R’s can get loud if set up right as can JL but the JL isn’t meant to be a spl sub it’s a sql sub and it’s one of the best at what it’s designed to do.

    • @michaelvickers89
      @michaelvickers89  6 років тому +1

      Tammy Forbes
      You're right and well put!

    • @DirtySouthFlorida3
      @DirtySouthFlorida3 5 років тому

      Skar vxf just came out best sql sub i heard sounds like its sealed but its ported

    • @tammyforbes2101
      @tammyforbes2101 2 роки тому

      @@DirtySouthFlorida3 you must have not heard much cause they sound like dog shit to me! One hit wonders we call them! Yea there loud no doubt they should be but sq just isn’t there with the big skar’s! I have similar subs DC audio LVL4 same thing super loud just not the best SQ although there ok just not the same as my 13w7!

  • @nflisrigged1395
    @nflisrigged1395 5 років тому +3

    Get a good home theater system next.
    JL makes home theater subs
    I use SVS .

  • @Dakingz5150
    @Dakingz5150 6 років тому +2

    My guy.. I liked the video.. But the beats my guy. Where did you get those tracks. They sounded hard and made the system hit even harder. Please point me to those tracks you played and where to get them.

  • @itsmejhenley2nfiniT
    @itsmejhenley2nfiniT 6 місяців тому

    I love the movement of both of them. But they're different classes. Of course, I would pick the w7 more excursion more power ,more bass but there more expensive
    but alpine type R i actually have one of that same seies i wouldn't say they are better but budget wise(from a poor man point of view) I would go with the type R and there well built but on a JL note maybe a w6 or with w3 but Im more of an oldschool fan love the older jl w3 series