FIRST DRIVE: New Fiat 600e - does the 500e’s bigger brother deliver la dolce vita? | Electrifying
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The Fiat 600e is a cute, compact family crossover - the all-electric successor to the 500X and a more spacious big brother for the 500e. It shares most of its hardware and powertrain with the Jeep Avenger, is well equipped and competitively priced. We also love that it’s genuinely quite small; it’s in between a VW Polo and VW Golf in length.
The Fiat 600e has a 54kWh lithium-ion battery, with a usable capacity (the amount that you’re actually charging and discharging) of 51kWh. That’s good for a range of up to 254 miles in the cheaper 600e (RED) model, or 252 miles in the La Prima, and in our summer test drive through a variety of faster country roads and slow town stuff, we managed a real-world figure of 220 miles, which is only a fraction less than you get in an MG4 Long Range or VW ID.3.
Join Nicola as she puts the new 600e through its paces in its native Italy. Is is a worthy stablemate to the brilliant 500e? Would you choose the 500e over its rivals? If you love it or loathe it, let us know in the comments below.
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00:00 No more grey cars
00:37 Styling - A biggger 500e
01:10 Battery and Range
01:56 Driving Impressions - A perfect city car?
06:20 Interior and practicality
08:14 Rear seats space
08:50 Boot space
09:19 Charging capacity
08:25 Price and competition
09:52 Our verdict - Авто та транспорт
Nicola is always a breath of fresh air when it comes to reviewing. Quirky and honest.
I know small cars are becoming less and less profitable but why don’t stellantis use the Fiat developed 500e platform to create a range of small electric Citroens and Peugeots?
I was wondering the same, surely they could bring out a Panda replacement and a tiny Pug with a bit of a 205 vibe based on the platform
Because that plattform is phasing out, in a year or two they will have a new plattform for small cars called the stla small which will have all their small cars on it eventually.
Peugeot 208e is a small car 🤷♂️
That'd be better than this. Same as the corsa, 208 and c4 but with a different look
I thought they were going to use that platform for a new C1/108 but I guess that’s been scrapped
Amazing review! Great to see my hometown of Turin and my childhood home being shown in this review while watching from the UK
Another great review thx.
Shame it doesn’t look like the 500 a bit more but great to see the focus on efficiency. It used to be all about mpg and people seem to have forgotten that with EVs
Nice drone shots and more colour! Great production. Nichola’s presentations always good
The drone shots were probably provided by Fiat. You'll see the same ones on other reviews. But Nichola is indeed an excellent reviewer.
A refreshingly honest, funny and engaging review, Nicola - but, then, I expect nothing else for such a professional... 😎
Loved the video! Thanks! Really fun!
"She's got resting sassy face!" LOL!
Lovely shots around Turin. Me and the wife used to walk up that road to Superga have a nice coffee in the station cafe of the Funicular overlooking Turin. I miss my time at Ital Design 😞
Not sure why your quotient Hyundai Kona in the script as the small battery version only has a 39kw not like the Fiat’s 54kw battery, if you compare the 64kw Kona it has at least 50miles more on the Fiat 600. If your trying to impress us with this car you need to compare like for like otherwise it will seem like you are being paid by the fiat group to give a favourable review.
Exactly my thoughts. Hyundai is way better in BEV cars.
Little Gerry did you get out of bed on the wrong side, paid by the Fiat group, a bit like saying are you working as a caretaker in a Hyundai Dealership, Fiat are part of Stellantis but has a certain Chic Appeal, is the 64w Kona not more expensive hence the 39kw, if you look at presenters reviews of Hyundai she could actually be accused of bias...
🤔rather cute!...The Fiat is interesting too.
Yes, I was thinking that. Especially as it's a crap EV like all Stellantis EVs.
Love the humour as always Nicola - oh the irony of fiat to say what’s the biggest selling colour ? Grey / ok let’s not make grey ! The lip synch seemed out but restarted it & all good - I think the headlights look like they’re winking - I think it looks better than the avenger - 5 miles/kWh is incredibly good - personally I think with all stellantis they’re great used buys but very expansive new purchases and not the best value for the private buyer
Love the car. “Reasonably priced” no. I think European car manufacturers hear journalists say “reasonably priced” and then say to themselves “we got away it” . Sorry but prices have got to come down. I think the EU are now grumbling that Chinese EV are too cheap. What’s up with everyone, us consumers want the prices to come down. By the way I love my Zoe EV. And one day will replace it but not until new EV’s come down in price.
Would like the looks of the Fiat 600e with the price of the newly announced Citroen e-C3 which may be around £20,000 when released next year, a full £12,000 less than the Fiat.
Really love the video and review of new Fiat 600e and after weekend I’ve spend with this beautifull and fun to drive car I have to say that I really love it.
Thanks for this!👍
It looks like a stoned hippy at the front end. 😂
For me this is the perfect package for a small family or a couple. I currently drive a BMW i3 mainly to work and for picking up the children but this would also fit the bill. (Renault is also getting there. Normalizing EVs for the masses. If they can charge at home, that is.)
I always wanted them to make a 500x Abarth for those Abarth fans that need something more grown up, hopefully a 600e Abarth will be just that.
I think, I would have liked to see a hybrid version of this with the 500e. The 600e just misses ticking all the boxes as is the 500e. With the 500e I would have loved to see the package size of the 500 e, but then with more boot space of the 600e and a 50 Kwh battery pack for a guaranteed all weather all season range of 185 miles 20-80/85% soc.
Great video, but could we get these in 4k now we're in 2023. Plus, it's a channel pointing towards the future, right? Not complaining. Would just he good to make use of the better picture quality, which so many other UA-cam channels already use. Nicola always includes great energy into her reviews, so thumbs up.
What about a review on the nio EL6, and the ET5T. (ET5 touring)
Good all rounder for the money but I wouldn't trade in my 500e because its larger sibling lacks the one pedal driving that, for me, is one of the major benefits of having an electric vehicle for mostly town driving.
Seems crazy to have an EV without regen that you can just dial up to preference.
The 500 seems rare among small electric cars in having one pedal drive. Having experienced it, I wouldn’t go back to a car without it.
@@GF-ep1pf Me too.
Stellantis are turning into one of the grocery brands like Unilever where they make the same product but call it something different? Ok maybe not quite the same product as they look different on the outside but to all intents and purpose the same lol.
The 600 does look quite cute though.
I do find it interesting that companies make city cars that are not really that good at longer journeys where people maybe need to take loads of suff.
I think most people want to do both short city and long journeys so not sure a city car can cut it?
Actually I think they are one of the few doing badge engineering right. A Mokka, a C4, a 2008, an Avenger or a 600 all share a lot but all are different enough to be unique and to appeal to different people but that is just my option...
Hiring a larger car for longer journeys will become more common in the future imo
@@TheAllMightyGodofCodI agree it’s horses for courses and different brands for different markets. It seems to be working for them so far, I think they do it better than VW.
@@radart6037 exactly. VW usually does it right but then they completely miss it as with the city cars. At least where I live, although SEAT and Skoda are super popular, no one even considered the MIi and the other one and just went right to a VW dealer and got an Up!
vag group is doing the same tbh, id4,enyaq, q4, ford explorer, id3 all same under pinings.
9:07 rather two cabin suitcases. the basic model may be an option for fans of the Italian design.. not sure what you are getting in the top spec if you still have scratchy materials in the front, not acoustic insulation and no rear seat cupholders. If I would need a city car for two, I would buy Ora Cat.
Totally not car related but I love you on this channel Nicola
Pity it doesn’t have one pedal driving like the 500e - guess maybe the difference is that the 500 was developed pre-Stellantis. Do like the turquoise piping on the 600’s seats however.
The lack of one pedal driving is a deal-breaker for me.
Prefer the classic styling and design to the other Stellantis equivalents and to the MG and BYD. It’s less rocket ship / Blade Runner vibe than some EVs seem to want to be. Eyes are a bit cutesy but tolerable. It is classically Italian design aesthetic / European, which I prefer. Laughed at your comment about its trout pout!! I will always see that now!!
the glovebox will be half the size in UK RHD spec - its the same in the Avenger and most other Stalantis group
It's not the case for FCA platform cars but the Avenger platform was originally developed by PSA pre-merger, and the french don't like moving the fusebox.
@@shroomyescthey have rectified it in the larger models 308, Astra. I’m sure it’ll come in the next platform gen of smaller models
@@JackWeed-nm1vq Most likely yes, this platform isn't very new after all. It's a good platform though when used right.
“I know… right?” Nicola is a star presenter!
It looks a bit odd but it's cute in a way and makes me smile when I look at it. I gather it also has the same battery as the eMokka and e2008? I'm considering one of these.
I know that the e2008 was updated recently and now features the same battery as the 600e, but I’m not sure what battery the Mokka-e uses
Judging by reviews so far the 600 and Avenger have much worse quality and refinement than Mokka and 2008 despite being on the same platform, possibly due to almost all interior components being FCA sourced. I would personally avoid, although I like the style more.
@@shroomyescmay I suggest you to go somewhere to watch the cars you mentioned by yourself? I watched a Mokka and...I dont think quality and refinement are better than 600e, even tough I've not yet "analyzed" the fiat ;)
I see a Mokka-e vs e2008 vs e600 vs Avenger vs eC4 "Stallantis fight to the death" video coming in the future!
Will be a good used buy a a one year old but at that MRRP no way. I’m sure in 6 months it will be discounted anyway. Cute car though.
Since it's electric, it should be a reliable stelantis car for a change!! Very good aesthetic! Exterior&interior are very stylish ^^
well you havent seen the carwow video of the jeep avenger then :P its taken down now but it broke down fours times with break issues.
Minulla on ollut lähes 6 vuotta Tipo 1.4 T-jet SW ja olen ajanut sillä 110 000 km. Erittäin tyylikäs, suorituskykyinen, tilava ja luotettava auto.
Tavaratilassa on säädettävissä kaksi eri korkeutta, yläasennossa tavaratilasta saa laajennettuna täysin tasaisen kun takapenkin istuinosan ja selkänojat kaataa.
Mmmm. One-pedal regen to a complete stop is a necessity with EVs. But Nicola: how about the sound of the indicators? 🤔
Grey cars are the worst colour for a car. Tarmac grey/black, UK skies largely grey=difficult to see cars = higher likelyhood of an accident.
Well done FIAT for breaking the trend.
Having said that I'm not convinced I would buy one. The space in the back looks a bit disapointing especially as I have a rapidly growing teenager rear space is vital.
I was looking forward to this review. I've always liked Fiats, they have character and are fun. The 500e is unfortunately just too small for my needs, so when I learned of this 600e, I was very hopeful that it could be truly great. You can imagine how disappointed I was to hear how awful the steering is then. That's killed it for me. How can over light steering be easier to drive? It would be like driving a video game, something I've never managed as I lack whatever it takes to guess what the car is doing without feedback. As well as this, surely it is just nice to feel the car and be involved in the driving experience? Shame most manufacturers don't agree with me! Great review as always, thanks.
On all fiats there is a city button which makes the steering super light, maybe they forgot to switch it off for this review?
@@fabiooliveri5005 Let's hope so, the car has so many good points, it would be a shame for it to be spoiled by one major flaw
I suggest yu to make a test drive and judge by yourself ;)
If I purchased one, the Stanley Knife would soon sort that annoying flap...!!
Can you ask not to have that? Is there a non flappy panel spec?
My next car 😊 Nicola is definitely the type of person this car is aiming for ❤
I got 6.5 miles per klw hour in my hyundai kona this summer, and i got 201bhp i love my kona. Starting to get colder and i am still getting 5miles per klw hour.
Downhill 😂
@@jonwragg3822 still better than a fiat
I like it, though I've always loved Fiat, so I could be slightly biased. Depending on the price here in Ireland I could well be tempted.
Fun to watch Nicola's and Ginny's video's side by side.
Perfect ❤
Great review, I have to say that I'm really flat about this car, they can paint it as colourful as they like, but it's still pretty dull
i own a 500e which is a great car but the range is around 150 miles, but i would exchange it for the 600e at some point.
But what do the indicators sound like?
Nice! But not as good as the polestar 2. That’s still my winner
If the Fiat 600e has a good HIGWAY efficiency, it’s going to be a success.
Other Stellantis cars like Jeep Avenger have very bad aerodynamics, which is a shame since if these cars had Tesla-level efficiency they could do 300km at 130km/h which is fine for most trips, and make a vehicle like this good at 360°
Well, it can recharge to 80% in a short time
Has more range then the avenger but its not very impressive in highways, not bad either
Can’t wait for the hybrid to come to the uk it’ll sell more
I have to say, it's rather clear that the old FCA habits are (as the merger is quite recent) still in full effect, because even though the platform for the 600, Avenger and the upcoming Alfa is the old PSA platform they use on the 2008, DS3, C4/C4X, Mokka etc, the ride refinement, interior build quality and interior partsbin are all still fully Fiat. And not in the best way.
Couldn’t help noticing the nudist sitting behind the metal fence at the villa you finished up at 🤣
WHAAAAAAT?!!!
Glove box in the UK will probably be half the size.
It's a good little car
Good video, but since when was a pretty lardy B-SUV a ‘city car’.
Morning Nicola 😉
254 WLTP = 190 real world in the summer, 170 in winter, take off 20 for safety to reach charging and you’re left with 150 miles range. That’s fine if you never leave the city, but you’re not going to get much further without experiencing the chaotic and overpriced UK charging network. Good luck future purchasers!
Very nice car
Rear left charging point 👏
0:49 Microlino - Am I a joke to you?
Ikr
Why shouldn't the Fiat have an engine? An electric machine is also a motor (but also a generator) - the difference lies in the direction of energy conversion: In the generator, the rotor is driven mechanically and thereby generates electrical energy in the windings of the stator. With a motor, the same machine is supplied with electrical energy and thereby generates mechanical energy.
I like the 600 and I don't need 70 or 100 kWh batteries in the car. Visually, I haven't found a Chinese manufacturer that I like - except for the Seal from BYD, which is not a desirable car for me, I need more ground clearance every day (often on dirt roads, etc.). That's why I would like the 600 more, and the great paint palette is also a point - because color in life is more important than gray on gray!
There will soon be an SUV version of the BYD Seal, called the Seal U. However not everyone agrees that the Seal design works on an SUV, make your own judgement.
I prefer Fiat more than any Chinese brand in terms of safety and security.
Ah they gave it normal boring door handles inside and out
They needed to keep the inset outer handles the 500e has and the buttong to open inside
Cheers love
The price is bonkers...
This is a Hatchback being advertised as a crossover suv
I'm not sure the cutesy look works on a bigger car. It just looks podgy?
Really no difference from my Citroën E-C4... The Shine Plus was nearly £35,000 .... Yet now you can easily buy it for less than £30,000!! The same will happen to the Jeep Adventure, Vauxhall Astra, Fiat 600.... They will get discounted. At the discounted price they are a KNOWN BRAND not an unknown Chinese brand. So I think they will sell well.
The Avenger and 600 feel bigger inside than the all the others.
@oliverstemp9132 And you have driven The Avenger and ALL the others... before they are even available or released...!!!
Good for you
But it still doesn't answer the issue. Stellantis overprice the cars, then discount them later. If you buy a Jeep now at 40k it will drop to 35 at the showroom and second hand will be 25k... loosing 15k to the early buyer.!!
Screwing customers. Not good. Better just to sell it at the lower price and hold tight residual values. Happy Customers!!
@@mikadavies660 lucky the Avenger is already £35k then. For me the Avenger and Astra are highlights, the C4X is interesting as well. I’ve driven some and sat with all of them. I don’t think anyone is being ripped off, it’s a fact that prices change, sometimes they go down and sometimes they go up.
@oliverstemp9132 My friend purchased a top spec E Mokka in 2022... close to £40k... Now it us 18 mths old.... mint of course.... He was offered £17,000 on an i4....!! Best offer so far £17,500...
My E-C4 was £35k and is 2022... now also £20k... however fortunately for me , I didn't buy it..... I leased it... So I haven't lost 15k in 15 months. These Stellantis cars are dropping because they are overpriced at the start, then discounted later, plus are NOT Ground Up BEVs but petrol cars with batteries put into the gaps. So they devalue quickly.
On another point... the E-C4X is actually very nice drive..
@@mikadavies660 poor you I guess. It’s but just Stellantis that suffer from poor residuals, all EVs do because many people are not ready.
The only time I bought a grey car was because it was the no cost option colour
I suspect that's the answer. The choice of colours in most new cars is very limited with only one or two options where you aren't paying extra just for the colour. Most cars sold doesn't necessarily tell you much about popularity since it's effectively not a free choice.
Which is why anyone buys anything. The "Most popular colour" in the UK is always the one most people offer free.
I recall Nicola did a synthetic/hydrogen fuel video, sometime ago, probably sponsored, how times change ?
I’ve never done a synthetic/hydrogen video but yes I’ve worked on a few things over the years.
@@nicolahume Indeed
@@nicolahume Shell V-Power on Auto Express, that's the video, well done for being a hypocrite, support the EV move or just stick to the Fossil fuel dinos, thnx
@@troyboy4345 ah yes! That was me going to the factory and learning about the difference between regular fuel and shell v power fuel. That was shot back in February and went live last week. No hypocrisy here. We were driving an M5 CS. If you’re driving a combustion engine, then there’s no judgement from me. It’s good to learn about the differences in types for fuel too. Look after the parts in your engine, go for a cleaner fuel if that’s what you drive. If you want to keep and care for your combustion engine because you’re not ready for an EV then that’s ok. If you’re looking for an EV, then here I am to help you with that decision. I have never lied about anything that I do or stand for. I’m reviewing electric cars on an electric car channel, this doesn’t mean that I’m a hypocrite.
Btw, thanks for watching😉
@@nicolahume You lack integrity as an EV reviewer, for your double standards, I really hope you drive an EV outside your public face, this channel may question that in the future, but in the mean time, continue the EV reviews for people that need informing on how beneficial they are compared to ICE vehicles, you are either in or out, for the future or stick to selling yourself with whatever you think, suites, as was my point re Shell V power, thank you for the reply, to clear matters up and bring my conclusion to an end, take care
If Stelantis really wants to make money with it's new EV development, it'll stop screwing-around with trying to be "sexy" with them (proposing EV "muscle cars") and make what'd be their most practical use of it: Changing over production of their hybrid minivans to it. 😊
I think it has the new stallantis electric motor.
Which is more efficient
My favourite part of this review was when looking for rear cup holders, Nicola lifted the rear middle headrest! Totally thorough reviewing…
Haha I was trying to see if there was a central arm rest to pull down which sometimes have cup holders! There’s method to the madness
@@nicolahume I believe you… 😜
Why @UA-cam oh Why do you not let us choose our resolution to watch these videos at anymore? 240 is just not good enough and that is supposed to be high lol. 360 at least it needs to be.
Well who'd have thunk it, grey is the most popular colour in the UK 🙄🙈
Never liked the look of the 600e & still don't, as for that price 😂😂🤦
Nicola, did i got it right that you said in this video that 4,7 miles/kwh is efficiënt?? For this performance?? If i drive non economic, with strong accellerations, I easily achive 5,2 miles/kwh. my car: 325 bhp, 420Nm, 0 - 60 under 6 s.... You're a bit like Ginny and the Avenger. Trying to find and say something good. But this audience ain't born yesterday. What's going on? Are you afraid of no longer being invited by these 'legacy' car manufacturers? Don't be afraid. The automotive future is to be found in the usa, china and Korea. Stellantis can't compete with such products.
Criticises Fiat for an ‘engine’ stop/start button because it doesn’t have an engine - but refers to the accelerator as a ‘throttle’ when the car doesn’t have a carburettor… dear oh dear!
Nice enough - and I’m a lifelong FIAT fan - but it’s yet another cynically priced car, because ‘it’s an EV’; and I’m a fan of EV’s too.
Just because it’s “Cheaper than…” it doesn’t make it good value.
Still a long way off from that yet it seems.
Good review though.
WLTP range claims are the EV equivalent of something 'The Donald' might say...
With all of the Stlantis cars. Ignore the first edition and the list price. Look at pre reg and nearly new. This and the jeep could be bargains in 2025. If you can't wait and don't need a back seat, get a bargain Corsa now and trade in in a couple of years. Some cheap motoring could be yours!
the trouble with girls a car is just a thing that goes from a 2 b but us blokes want speed and power and fun love the videos though 🤣🤣🤣🤭
Never underestimate how fast us girls wanna go
Oh god no - dont tell me she is on this channel now!!!
Can Nicola do all the car reviews please
10 minutes of talking about colors and doorbins, bravo.
They made it look more boring than the 500e
Also inside i hate they got rid of the space where a gearstick would usually be
The car looks… high? 😅
Yeah, another heap f money for a bit of metal on wheels!
do the police still play snooker
Prefer the styling and look of the 500x....The cost of the 600, like most electric cars is quite ludicrous...literally being taken fir a ride by most car manufacturers!!
Car Manufacturer: "I have a cunning plan😉...stick as much non essential gadgetry into our vehicles and the peasants will come running....and don't forget to rip them off".
IT'S A NURDY CAR. Will sell in 10000000's. a big seller for women.
The headlights look like 2 lazy eyes for some reason.
The interior flap is annoying should not be there is cheap and can easily wrip off
The Jeep looks fun but this OH My. Not my cup of tea at all.
BYD Seal is much more spacious and cheaper.
BYD Seal is a sedan. More comparable is Atto 3.
600e all the way or ID3 never the Chinese brands.
Maybe a step up from the 500X, but still another dreadfully boring, premium crossover
Premium? What video have you been watching? 😅
It took you more than 6 mins to show the dashboard. Not the best thing!
Jeep Avenger and Fiat 600e illustrate why Stellantis Group wants EU to impose higher tariff on Chinese EV. They cannot compete with MG or BYD or Volvo EX30, so they resort to protectionism. However, British consumers will continue enjoying the affordability of Chinese EV, since the UK is not in the EU anymore. At least one benefit of brexit.
Firstly it’s hardly just Stellantis and basically all no Chinese manufacturers. Secondly, do you not question Chinese manufacturers practices? I would do everything to avoid buying a Chinese car. The Volvo you mentioned looks great, yet it’s Chinese and still expensive
...said a chinese, sad guy
Nice car but Tesla offers too many benefits. More range and better software.
Fiat avenger 😅
Another "City SUV" 💀Yay
Good for Fiat... So sick of the sheep all going for the latest fashion colour.... BOLD Colours are needed.
Whilst I disagree with Stellantis pricing their cars so high, as they then offer you £5k to £10k discount later.... (destroying the residual values) Look at the Mokka ... 60% loss in 2 years. Just sell them at realistic prices in the first place. Stellantis actually design some excellent looking BEVs... Hopefully, the UAW in America won't bankrupt them, with their stupid request for 40% pay increase.
My friend, the loss of value of BEVs involves all the brands. I think people interested in owning a bev (still few compared to the total of car owners) buy them or lease them even more frequently because of the original prices. Rest of people DON'T buy them. Simply as that.
Same small battery as the rest of the Stellantis lineup.Same old limited real world range. Out of date and overpriced IMO compared to competition.Another missed opportunity.
I love EV's but this is too much money and doesn't seem that good either, better off getting a two year old Tesla model 3 for the same money
Plus was there mention of charging speeds etc.