Ah, good to see that, once again, you've captured my good side in the thumbnail! Of course, that's not hard when someone doesn't have even a trace of a bad side . . . not even a whiff of evil . . . no nefariousness in this Dr.! 😄
When I heard "nemesissity" all I could think of was: "Look for the nemesissity, the simple nemesissity Forget about your worries and your strife I mean the nemesissity, old mother nature's recipes That bring the nemesissities of life" It was a pleasure to watch this video, it's an exciting video series already :) and much needed for sure. This way of discussing the Malazan books is so far my favorite. Your knowledge and analysis are really priceless, thank you so much! And the Malazan puns are great, we want more! :)
Another reason for not getting in Rake's head is that he was not there for the Turning. While Kaminsod seems to have difficulty comprehending compassion and sacrifice as mentioned, he similarly has difficulty with love and grief. Hence the change of narrator in Toll. Or perhaps a bit too much authorial necromancy is being practiced. Considering the narrators in Karkanas, does that make Fisher a developmental editor as much as a bard? Kaminsod likely needed some assistance and look at all the Fisher prologues. He did some freelance work with Duiker too who likely had to self publish due to issues with his publisher, Lasseen.
For WhiskeyJack's defense at 24:00ish, There is a revealing line where WhiskeyJack bites his cheek and spits blood onto the cobbles saying 'see that aint so bad' when contemplating his duty to blow up Darujistan at the end. makes it so clear that from the beginning at Pale when Quick Ben says he has to heal him again that much like Lorn, he's been giving himself up to duty and doing what he can to hold it together. In offense to WhiskeyJack he was still gonna do it despite his disgust.
This is it, absolutely. I thought you'd already done it, but no, it's this. This is the perfect thumbnail. Also, why does Darth Philip kind of look like Gary Oldman? :)
Thanks a lot both of you for another fascination discussion! @A.P : your explanation was very interesting. I'll definitively keep your perspective in mind in my next re-read.
Here's to Fremesis!! Loved this breakdown and I'll keep a lot of this in mind during my re-read. It also helps to have this kind of info when explaining to friends who are reading it as well. Very cool, thanks!
It's not just that Kaminsod acknowledges his own complicity; he casts himself as the series' archvillain He puts his own fingers in every evil pie, big bad evil guy
The Pannion Domin grew over a period of over 15 years. Lots of people died and suffered over this time. Forgiving the Crippled God is forgiving genocide but it wasn't about forgiveness in this case I believe but taking the Crippled God out from where he didn't belong because it was damaging him and also the Malazan world. I think that Kellanved and Cotillion knew this and hopefully Kaminsod will be happier as well now.
And Kellanved was responsible for multiple massacres, wars, and executions... The question that Kaminsod asks is why would anyone sacrifice themselves to free him. That is central to the entire series. It is Kaminsod posing this question and exploring aspects of the answer... or at least that I partly how I see it.
Speaking of Kaminsod, what is the consensus on what happened after Cotillion stabbed him? I initially thought he went to his home realm, but then remembered that it was destroyed by the Tiste Andii. The other possibility is he is simply dead, but then how did he write the Malazan Book of the Fallen?
Why do you think that the Tiste Andii destroyed his home realm? He is from a different reality, the Andii may have destroyed his attempt at creating a warren, but that wasn't his home realm.
@@ACriticalDragon UA-cam keeps deleting my comment, probably because I had a link. Third times a charm! The Malazan Wiki article on Kaminsod was saying that it was unclear if Cotillion killed Kaminsod or just feed his soul. Pretty sure that's wrong. It also said the Tiste Andii destroyed his nascent realm. I guess what exactly does that mean? Maybe i shouldn't place my faith in community articles 😅
@@Wordsalad69420 nascent : newly coming into existence. That is not his original realm, he was torn from his existence into the Malazan world. Cotillon kills the Crppled God when he is physically manifest, therefore his devine essence is freed from the Malazan world. At least that is how I understand it.
@@ACriticalDragon That makes perfect sense, thank you! I think it was a language thing. English is not my primary language and nascent to me meant the one he was born in.
“Like I said, he’s a monster” Philip, you called it, I was THIS close to unsubscribing for that AWFUL, SHAMEFUL ATTACK against those of us who love our purr babies! 😤
I am disappointed that neither of you mentioned the most important character in the series, Hairlock. He is the one pulling all the strings...you could say he was the true puppet...master...
Ah, good to see that, once again, you've captured my good side in the thumbnail! Of course, that's not hard when someone doesn't have even a trace of a bad side . . . not even a whiff of evil . . . no nefariousness in this Dr.! 😄
You do have a fondness for capes... villainy proven.
@@ACriticalDragon All that technology and they couldn't fit Vader's helmet with corrective lenses.
When I heard "nemesissity" all I could think of was:
"Look for the nemesissity, the simple nemesissity
Forget about your worries and your strife
I mean the nemesissity, old mother nature's recipes
That bring the nemesissities of life"
It was a pleasure to watch this video, it's an exciting video series already :) and much needed for sure. This way of discussing the Malazan books is so far my favorite. Your knowledge and analysis are really priceless, thank you so much! And the Malazan puns are great, we want more! :)
Lorn's conversations with Tool are one of my favourite parts of the book
It is a great exchange.
The Otataral Dragon was introduced as an unstoppable monster. But when we see it in action it is actually it is sad and vulnerable.
Corabb carrying Fiddler out of Yghatan was a huge sacrifice for someone else
Another reason for not getting in Rake's head is that he was not there for the Turning. While Kaminsod seems to have difficulty comprehending compassion and sacrifice as mentioned, he similarly has difficulty with love and grief. Hence the change of narrator in Toll. Or perhaps a bit too much authorial necromancy is being practiced.
Considering the narrators in Karkanas, does that make Fisher a developmental editor as much as a bard? Kaminsod likely needed some assistance and look at all the Fisher prologues. He did some freelance work with Duiker too who likely had to self publish due to issues with his publisher, Lasseen.
Ahh, I see the Emperor and his Rope have reunited once again!
So excited for this series! Especially for when you get to HOC!
Ah, but who is the Emperor and who is the Rope?
For WhiskeyJack's defense at 24:00ish, There is a revealing line where WhiskeyJack bites his cheek and spits blood onto the cobbles saying 'see that aint so bad' when contemplating his duty to blow up Darujistan at the end. makes it so clear that from the beginning at Pale when Quick Ben says he has to heal him again that much like Lorn, he's been giving himself up to duty and doing what he can to hold it together. In offense to WhiskeyJack he was still gonna do it despite his disgust.
I would very much welcome you two doing this same thing for the Novels of the Malazan Empire at some point.
Not even watched this yet. Was just looking for it and it struck me. I would love to see you both discuss Rejoice.
So good I don't mind spoilers 😊. Thus, I can watch these videos. Which I'm very grateful for. They usually make my day 😊.
I am glad that you enjoyed the video. Have a great day. Thanks for watching.
This is it, absolutely. I thought you'd already done it, but no, it's this. This is the perfect thumbnail. Also, why does Darth Philip kind of look like Gary Oldman? :)
Thanks a lot both of you for another fascination discussion! @A.P : your explanation was very interesting. I'll definitively keep your perspective in mind in my next re-read.
I hope that my answer was at least thought provoking, even if you don't find it convincing.
I am glad that I got a chance to address it.
where is the crippled god live chat? been looking forward to it
Here's to Fremesis!! Loved this breakdown and I'll keep a lot of this in mind during my re-read. It also helps to have this kind of info when explaining to friends who are reading it as well. Very cool, thanks!
It's not just that Kaminsod acknowledges his own complicity; he casts himself as the series' archvillain
He puts his own fingers in every evil pie, big bad evil guy
Haven't even finished the series once, never mind rereading. But how could I resist my favourite nemesisity!
Philip expresses his nemesissitude with verve.
And panache. Or is that a synonym? 😆
The Pannion Domin grew over a period of over 15 years. Lots of people died and suffered over this time. Forgiving the Crippled God is forgiving genocide but it wasn't about forgiveness in this case I believe but taking the Crippled God out from where he didn't belong because it was damaging him and also the Malazan world. I think that Kellanved and Cotillion knew this and hopefully Kaminsod will be happier as well now.
And Kellanved was responsible for multiple massacres, wars, and executions...
The question that Kaminsod asks is why would anyone sacrifice themselves to free him. That is central to the entire series. It is Kaminsod posing this question and exploring aspects of the answer... or at least that I partly how I see it.
What do you think Raest will do if he ever gets out of the Azath house? Open a flower shop?
Yeah, or maybe an animal shelter, he seems pretty done with the whole tyrant thing
Orb Sceptre Throne gives more insight into Raest.
Speaking of Kaminsod, what is the consensus on what happened after Cotillion stabbed him? I initially thought he went to his home realm, but then remembered that it was destroyed by the Tiste Andii. The other possibility is he is simply dead, but then how did he write the Malazan Book of the Fallen?
Why do you think that the Tiste Andii destroyed his home realm? He is from a different reality, the Andii may have destroyed his attempt at creating a warren, but that wasn't his home realm.
@@ACriticalDragon UA-cam keeps deleting my comment, probably because I had a link. Third times a charm!
The Malazan Wiki article on Kaminsod was saying that it was unclear if Cotillion killed Kaminsod or just feed his soul. Pretty sure that's wrong. It also said the Tiste Andii destroyed his nascent realm. I guess what exactly does that mean? Maybe i shouldn't place my faith in community articles 😅
@@Wordsalad69420 nascent : newly coming into existence.
That is not his original realm, he was torn from his existence into the Malazan world.
Cotillon kills the Crppled God when he is physically manifest, therefore his devine essence is freed from the Malazan world.
At least that is how I understand it.
@@ACriticalDragon That makes perfect sense, thank you! I think it was a language thing. English is not my primary language and nascent to me meant the one he was born in.
No worries at all. It is an ambiguous ending, so there is a lot of wiggle room for interpretation.
I'm looking forward to this series. With A.P. Solo riding stick, we will defeat the nefarious Darth Chase and his 20.3k Stormtroopers.
The nefarious Dr. Fantasy might have his magic tweed, but the true heroes among us can see through his illusions to his dastardly nefariousness.
Some nobles could achieve something in the end! Laseen has promoted Tavore so sees her ability.
And then we see the 'typical' nobles who make up part of the chain of dogs.
“Like I said, he’s a monster”
Philip, you called it, I was THIS close to unsubscribing for that AWFUL, SHAMEFUL ATTACK against those of us who love our purr babies! 😤
I am sure your cat is lovely.
I like dogs :)
I am disappointed that neither of you mentioned the most important character in the series, Hairlock. He is the one pulling all the strings...you could say he was the true puppet...master...
They've got strings
But you can see
There are no strings on me.
sore point... doesn't have a leg to stand on... *groan* Korlat would not forgive you these horrible puns about Whiskeyjack!!
I suppose I could have 'run through' the 'points' more forcefully... 😈😈