The pumpkins in the beginning I think speak to Laurie's line near the end of the movie: Evil doesn't die, it just changes shape but I like the decades thing too. I loved Halloween Ends. I've re-watched it five times now. I would argue against Zack's idea that there is no thread connecting the three movies. FilmSpeak put out a fantastic video about Ends that perfectly captures what I saw and got out of the trilogy/quartet. Still fun to watch and listen to this podcast, I always love the back and forth!
Another good in depth episode & while my opinion is very different, I appreciate the conversation. I LOVED THIS MOVIE so much & I’m a hardcore Halloween fan. I thought it was love letter to John Carpenter. A unique and character driven conclusion to this trilogy that gives Laurie Strode a satisfying conclusion. I was good with all the Michael Myers stuff as well considering how beaten down he was in KILLS. This movie is a future cult classic. Time will be very kind to it.
I actually think this is a love letter and chef's kiss to Debra Hill (RIP, bless her heart). She was the one fighting against Halloween becoming this nonsense slasher franchise, she wanted it to be an anthology, following different myths and legends surrounding Halloween. This is the closest thing we get to that apart from Halloween III. While John Carpenter is clearly a genius and master of his craft, I don't think he's really cared about Halloween for the longest time, but just taking advantage of the royalties (as he should). Ultimately Debra Hill gave up the share of her rights to these movies because she didn't like the direction it was going, and I don't blame her, we basically got 5 really poor Halloween movies in a row (H20 excluded). She'd be very proud of this movie I think. I really liked it, its top 3 for me
This was a very polarizing movie to say the least, but I was fortunate enough not to have been exposed to trailers and spoilers, so when I saw it opening night, I was genuinely intrigued and excited by what what was presented to me from the on-set. I think what works for this entry is that because it's so convoluted that it keeps my interest the entire time. I think as time goes on, the re-watchability will get better and better for me.
Great podcast as always! You two are appreciated! I enjoyed this, it’s far superior to Kills. The Corey story was good. Michael was there, even though most of the time he was in Corey’s mind. I really felt that Corey would live and go on to be the next “shape”. H20 is my favorite sequel of the franchise.
Watching The Thing was definitely a callback to The Thing From Another World in Halloween 78, but I also think (in this third film) its a callback to a John Carptenter movie being on TV like in Halloween III.
I'm so appreciative of this entry. If you think about it all these years they've turned Michael Myers into a Jason or a Freddy. This really took it back to a Carpenter feel - the visuals, atmosphere, eccentric kind of - and the more I've seen it the more it takes Shape in my heart (pun).
Loved this episode guys Also loved this movie - I was surprised at how much I actually liked it! Also my name is Lindsay with an A and I am a girl so it can happen 😂
@@silentsaturn7604 Referring to him as an enabler is a bit much. Also, do you not think the mum abused him as well? If not physically, emotionally etc. Also not certain how your reply really is about anything I've said in my original comment.
This was a fantastic episode, really appreciate the time you took, to cover everything in-depth and constructively. Makes a nice change from the mindless screaming & yelling elsewhere. Not sure about the bit with Eddie disowning this film but holding on to his copy of Resurection...each to their own I guess. 🤷♂️
28:40 Weird how Halloween Ends did the Scream 3 approach but had Laurie in the whole thing anyway as opposed to Neve Campbell, in spite of the fact thats the only reason they did that in Scream 3
why is nobody talking about how when Michael looks into Corey's eyes there is a split second shot of the door opening and Jeremy just standing there? Which surely implies Corey pushed him purposely off the stairs, because if the door had hit him then he wouldn't have been standing there so calmly as the door was opening???
I can’t even explain in a comment my thoughts about this trilogy/quartet. All I can say is Ends would have been a run of the mill, okay-ish horror movie if Michael wasn’t in it. The idea of a young adult being pushed to be the monster the town claims him to be after years of bullying stemming from an accident and then taking on the persona of the boogeyman is great.
I am late to the party! As mentioned before somehwere on the channel I had to wait two more weeks for a Polish thater premiere. The whole two goddamned weeks! I have already told you guys that I really liked both H2018 and Kills. I have seen original Halloween so late in my life, during halloween 2015. And was not done with sequles and remake(s) untill 2019 I guess. Therefore I am not nostaligc about any timeline. I really enjoyed original part 2, even though you could tell Carpenter forced him self to write it ;) I love Season Of The Witch, and enjoy part 4 a lot, as well as H2O. The rest I don't really dig that much, and have seen only once so far. Obviously H2018 was my first Halloween thater experience and I loved it so much despite it's flaws. Same with Kills. I am invested in these new movies, and I kind of already feel nostaligic about them. They are a part of last four years of my life, so I was really excited for Ends! Last Friday I went to the premiere open minded for anything to come. While watching the movie I was pretty shocked. I thouth it's not even close to what I hoped for, and what I expected from big finale but I kind of enjoyed it! When it was done I didn't know what to think. I guess I was in some grief mode for a day haha. I was so underwhelmed how little classic Myer's stuff we got. I was wondering why they decided to give 70% of the final chapter to brand new character? Why the final confrontation was so anticlimactic? Two days later I wen to see it one more time, now in IMAX, and I loved it. I hoped for something more in vein of 2018 and Kills, yet I got super emo drama romance slasher instead. Which felt more like a post Hallowen 2018/Kills epilogue than final chapter. But I loved it. It's flawed of course, and trilogy as a whole doesn't feel like proper trilogy by design. But I enjoyed it so much. Again Green and the crew nailed many things big time in my opinion + Carpeters' (and Davies') score was soooooo good! After third view on a big screen I made peace with all issues I had with it. It all made sense (within movie's world illogic logic :P ) Same as with H2018 I really like everything most people dislike. I see a lot of complaints about uneccesary romance. I think Corey was awesome character, and enjoyed that emo rebel soap operesque romance a lot! People hated to see weak and old Myers - I think it was very realistic. Also if he was unstoppable just like in Kills, then how the big showdown would look like? It would have to be decapitation (again!), or army intervention and bomb dropping, both options suck. Also I think Myer might lost his motivation. In Kills they have established that after 78 killing spree he went home, looked into the window/his reflection, and gave up. In 2018 he once again decided to go home, this time around he didn't want to get captured. Maybe he knew it's the end, and wanted to die hidden just like a sick animal? In the mean time his home has been demolished (they showed a piece of article in Ends). But once more time he was brought to Laurie, by Corey, who knew Michael was following him, and wanted (probably) to use Myers to kill them all ("if I cannot have her, no one will"). Which leads to this mentioned anticlimactic show down. I have no problem with this. It's two tired old farts fighitng now. It's akward and cameral :D It's as realistic as such fight can be within slasher flick. Just like big finale in X was sort of anticlimactic (in comparison to other slasher showdowns) and I loved it :) Anyway, I am satisifed with this "trilogy". Great disscussion as always guys! Cheers :)
Okay but I have to ask. If Halloween (2018) and Kills takes place in 2018 and then we get a skip all the way to 2022 did Haddonfield have to go through Quarantine?
And let's not forget, Michael doesn't care about Laurie so it makes sense that he doesn't treat her like his nemesis. The only reason he came after her was always because of Corey. Watching her outside her house? He was watching Corey going upstairs with Allison? Fighting her at the end? She was just there when he got his mask. Bodies are to Michael what shiny toys are to a child. If they're there chances are he'll play with them.
Totally agree that I wish this was Laurie in 2018. They couldve had that fierce side of her but have it be that that’s how she covers up her fears and trawma 😊
From what I get here, I'm not surprised movie got as much hate as it did. Me and & people I went to see it with thought the movie was actually pretty good, well it was a shocking with direction it took to the point we didn't know what to think, but we knew it was good. Not as concluding chapter of this trilogy, but as a movie as a whole. Personally I think it'd be better if they made it a 4 part series, and in between they squeezed one more in which Laurie kinda defeats Micheal in a weird/special way and so on, and it's the same Halloween night of 2018. But I'd like to point out that me and my friends were specialists at avoiding spoilers. For us, in the opening scene we really were expecting Micheal Myers to appear and we were surprised by what happened
It might've been better if they showed her writing the book throughout the film and then added some narration from the book only at the end of the movie to finally hear a little of what she was writing.
I think you're missing the point that Allison's close moments with laurie and Lindsey Was absolutely real and they may have continued that relationship. But Laurie insisted that it was time for Allison And then Corey unfortunately Was corrupted by Michael. and changed when's Corey changed because he started to corrupt her. I believe that had blumhouse decided to try to do more movies that they would have switch it from Cory to Michael. But that moment we're according to Michael McDonald's eyes we supposed to signify a huge change.
I agree with your points completely - this movie was a hot mess. The plot was nonsensical and full of inconsistencies throughout. It was almost like the writers wrote the whole movie in a day without any attention or thought to the characters or the previous films. I thought Judy greers death at the end of the last film would have more of an impact on Laurie in the new movie but they just like glossed over it. Also why would they put such an emphasis on Corey’s plot/character just for him to die in such a random and confusing way at the end. I enjoyed Halloween 2018 but then feel like it went downhill very fast after that.
So not directly about Halloween Ends (but kind of) what if the next Scream movie is about the recent horror trend of ignoring chunks of a franchise ala this Halloween trilogy.
@@silentsaturn7604 no 5 was requels where you repeat the exact same thing the first movie did while using a mix of new and old characters, I'm talking about as an example all the movies after the first scream movie were erased so there was no Mickey and mrs. Loomis, no Roman, no Jill and Charlie , and no Amber and Ritchie, just Billy and Stu. This would also mean no Stab franchise as it would have only been that 1 book gale wrote about Ghostface.
@@strifenineteen That's still kinda what Scream 5 is about. Of course Scream would never disown any of it's sequels but they only reference the first and all ties go back to the first. It's as close as you get. they even referenced the new Halloween trilogy.
Ends really lacks the suspense that I think is key to a Halloween film. It became too much of an “elevated” horror movie, which I find funny since that’s a theme in Scream 2022. Hens was a good horror movie, but did not feel like a Halloween movie to me. The only thing that truly saved Kills (or at least put it a notch higher than Hens) was the flashback to ‘78.
I actually really liked Halloween Ends. Laurie Strode is still the most self important person in the universe believing that Michael is really after her Despite the fact that Hawkins is told her that's not true. But a lot of the citizens of Haddonfield are now Agreeing thanks Michael's attack 4 years ago. But the 100 different between Corey and Michael and what they do is every single victim almost the Corey killed Corey had a reason for except for maybe the receptionist. Michael just Kills Because he can.
Resurrection isn’t in any timeline. Forget it exists. H1, 2, 4, 5, 6 H1, 2, 7 Or you can accept the two above together. H1, sort of H2, 2018, 2021, 2022
The Corey storyline was serviceable, good even, until he met Michael in the sewer. It was so dumb after that. I would have rather had a final boy that acts as a foil to Michael as someone who is a killer hated by the town
I love Zack's breakdowns but I definitely disagree about this movie. As a Halloween film, i don't enjoy it because it just doesn't feel like a Halloween film, even in terms of atmosphere, mood, look and character consistency......it's a film that's not gonna age well, I don't think it's gonna be this cult classic like Halloween III is. As a horror film, it's not scary, it's not suspenseful, it has an inconsistent tone where I don't know if im supposed to laugh or be scared. As a film, it doesn't really know what it wants to be, it tries to have its cake and eat it too while failing in the process and a lot of the new potential ideas are all completely dropped and not even paid off by the end. Even as an offbeat weird movie, I get no enjoyment out of it. And I actually like Halloween 6 (the Producer's Cut) because it does have an offbeat storyline, mood, atmosphere, some genuine suspenseful moments and actually does feel like a horror film. The same thing with Halloween III, which works as being just a Halloween film (the season, not the franchise). I think David Gordon Green should write horror comedies.......that's more of his style in the horror genre, not this.
Zack could you do a episode on P2 2007 and could you do a episode on Revenge 2017 and 13 fan boy 2021 Halloween party 2020 and the mean one 2022 and one on Saw 2 and all the other Saw movies Tremors 2020 and all the other Tremors movies to it as well and red dragon and Hannibal Rising and manhunter before it and the meg Hostel and open 24 hours 2020 cursed of 49er and five nights at Freddy's 2023 and do cabin fever 2 Spring ever and vacancy the final cut and vacancy 2012 could you do those whenever you get the chance to.................??????????...??
This movies problem was just what it was advertised and promoted as. A lot of people didn’t read between the lines. It’s supposed to be Laurie vs Michael-the end. You got ten minutes of that at the very end. So I think a lot of hate is for that reason. If this was just a random sequel, I think it would be getting a lot more love. It was two movies spliced together. Something new and then ten minutes of what people were expecting 😂
Literally my favourite ever podcast
I could listen to Zach talk about horror movies for hours. I love how in depth he goes
The pumpkins in the beginning I think speak to Laurie's line near the end of the movie: Evil doesn't die, it just changes shape but I like the decades thing too. I loved Halloween Ends. I've re-watched it five times now. I would argue against Zack's idea that there is no thread connecting the three movies. FilmSpeak put out a fantastic video about Ends that perfectly captures what I saw and got out of the trilogy/quartet. Still fun to watch and listen to this podcast, I always love the back and forth!
YESSSS! Ready just in time for my morning commute! I made sure to watch the movie over the weekend so I was ready for the pod!!!
Another good in depth episode & while my opinion is very different, I appreciate the conversation. I LOVED THIS MOVIE so much & I’m a hardcore Halloween fan. I thought it was love letter to John Carpenter. A unique and character driven conclusion to this trilogy that gives Laurie Strode a satisfying conclusion. I was good with all the Michael Myers stuff as well considering how beaten down he was in KILLS. This movie is a future cult classic. Time will be very kind to it.
I actually think this is a love letter and chef's kiss to Debra Hill (RIP, bless her heart). She was the one fighting against Halloween becoming this nonsense slasher franchise, she wanted it to be an anthology, following different myths and legends surrounding Halloween. This is the closest thing we get to that apart from Halloween III. While John Carpenter is clearly a genius and master of his craft, I don't think he's really cared about Halloween for the longest time, but just taking advantage of the royalties (as he should).
Ultimately Debra Hill gave up the share of her rights to these movies because she didn't like the direction it was going, and I don't blame her, we basically got 5 really poor Halloween movies in a row (H20 excluded).
She'd be very proud of this movie I think. I really liked it, its top 3 for me
Zach is like the perferct package-- super smart and cute and loves horror movies.
Maybe he’ll marry you?
“The decent people are in marching band” yes🤣love it! (former marching band member 🙋♀️)
This was a very polarizing movie to say the least, but I was fortunate enough not to have been exposed to trailers and spoilers, so when I saw it opening night, I was genuinely intrigued and excited by what what was presented to me from the on-set. I think what works for this entry is that because it's so convoluted that it keeps my interest the entire time. I think as time goes on, the re-watchability will get better and better for me.
Love you guys as always!!!!
So, I didn't think of this before but Allyson has the worst taste in men. Cameron, that gross cop and Corey. Gurl....
Corey is hot af.
I thought it was funny Laurie is the first person to be a bad influence on Corey. lol Great video as always guys!❤
Great podcast as always! You two are appreciated! I enjoyed this, it’s far superior to Kills. The Corey story was good. Michael was there, even though most of the time he was in Corey’s mind. I really felt that Corey would live and go on to be the next “shape”.
H20 is my favorite sequel of the franchise.
Eddie's Terry impression makes me cry laugh omfg
Watching The Thing was definitely a callback to The Thing From Another World in Halloween 78, but I also think (in this third film) its a callback to a John Carptenter movie being on TV like in Halloween III.
I'm so appreciative of this entry. If you think about it all these years they've turned Michael Myers into a Jason or a Freddy. This really took it back to a Carpenter feel - the visuals, atmosphere, eccentric kind of - and the more I've seen it the more it takes Shape in my heart (pun).
Loved this episode guys
Also loved this movie - I was surprised at how much I actually liked it!
Also my name is Lindsay with an A and I am a girl so it can happen 😂
Micheal Meyers in a sidecar caused a full spit take 😂😂😂😂!
I felt so bad about Dad/Stepdad/Uncle Ronnie. He genuinely cared about Corey. He even stood in the way of the shotgun.
He was also an enabler. He should have stood up for Corey at home, when his mum abused him.
@@silentsaturn7604 Referring to him as an enabler is a bit much. Also, do you not think the mum abused him as well? If not physically, emotionally etc.
Also not certain how your reply really is about anything I've said in my original comment.
This was a fantastic episode, really appreciate the time you took, to cover everything in-depth and constructively.
Makes a nice change from the mindless screaming & yelling elsewhere.
Not sure about the bit with Eddie disowning this film but holding on to his copy of Resurection...each to their own I guess. 🤷♂️
28:40 Weird how Halloween Ends did the Scream 3 approach but had Laurie in the whole thing anyway as opposed to Neve Campbell, in spite of the fact thats the only reason they did that in Scream 3
why is nobody talking about how when Michael looks into Corey's eyes there is a split second shot of the door opening and Jeremy just standing there? Which surely implies Corey pushed him purposely off the stairs, because if the door had hit him then he wouldn't have been standing there so calmly as the door was opening???
I saw 2 different trailers and didn't know about the Corey story or that he would be like the main character so I was pleasantly surprised :)
I can’t even explain in a comment my thoughts about this trilogy/quartet. All I can say is Ends would have been a run of the mill, okay-ish horror movie if Michael wasn’t in it. The idea of a young adult being pushed to be the monster the town claims him to be after years of bullying stemming from an accident and then taking on the persona of the boogeyman is great.
Finally got around to watching it. And. I liked it. Dont get the fuss lol
I am late to the party!
As mentioned before somehwere on the channel I had to wait two more weeks for a Polish thater premiere.
The whole two goddamned weeks!
I have already told you guys that I really liked both H2018 and Kills.
I have seen original Halloween so late in my life, during halloween 2015.
And was not done with sequles and remake(s) untill 2019 I guess.
Therefore I am not nostaligc about any timeline.
I really enjoyed original part 2, even though you could tell Carpenter forced him self to write it ;)
I love Season Of The Witch, and enjoy part 4 a lot, as well as H2O.
The rest I don't really dig that much, and have seen only once so far.
Obviously H2018 was my first Halloween thater experience and I loved it so much despite it's flaws.
Same with Kills.
I am invested in these new movies, and I kind of already feel nostaligic about them.
They are a part of last four years of my life, so I was really excited for Ends!
Last Friday I went to the premiere open minded for anything to come.
While watching the movie I was pretty shocked.
I thouth it's not even close to what I hoped for, and what I expected from big finale but I kind of enjoyed it!
When it was done I didn't know what to think.
I guess I was in some grief mode for a day haha.
I was so underwhelmed how little classic Myer's stuff we got.
I was wondering why they decided to give 70% of the final chapter to brand new character?
Why the final confrontation was so anticlimactic?
Two days later I wen to see it one more time, now in IMAX, and I loved it.
I hoped for something more in vein of 2018 and Kills, yet I got super emo drama romance slasher instead.
Which felt more like a post Hallowen 2018/Kills epilogue than final chapter.
But I loved it.
It's flawed of course, and trilogy as a whole doesn't feel like proper trilogy by design.
But I enjoyed it so much.
Again Green and the crew nailed many things big time in my opinion + Carpeters' (and Davies') score was soooooo good!
After third view on a big screen I made peace with all issues I had with it.
It all made sense (within movie's world illogic logic :P )
Same as with H2018 I really like everything most people dislike.
I see a lot of complaints about uneccesary romance.
I think Corey was awesome character, and enjoyed that emo rebel soap operesque romance a lot!
People hated to see weak and old Myers - I think it was very realistic.
Also if he was unstoppable just like in Kills, then how the big showdown would look like?
It would have to be decapitation (again!), or army intervention and bomb dropping, both options suck.
Also I think Myer might lost his motivation.
In Kills they have established that after 78 killing spree he went home, looked into the window/his reflection, and gave up.
In 2018 he once again decided to go home, this time around he didn't want to get captured.
Maybe he knew it's the end, and wanted to die hidden just like a sick animal?
In the mean time his home has been demolished (they showed a piece of article in Ends).
But once more time he was brought to Laurie, by Corey, who knew Michael was following him, and wanted (probably) to use Myers to kill them all ("if I cannot have her, no one will").
Which leads to this mentioned anticlimactic show down.
I have no problem with this.
It's two tired old farts fighitng now.
It's akward and cameral :D
It's as realistic as such fight can be within slasher flick.
Just like big finale in X was sort of anticlimactic (in comparison to other slasher showdowns) and I loved it :)
Anyway, I am satisifed with this "trilogy".
Great disscussion as always guys!
Cheers :)
Okay but I have to ask. If Halloween (2018) and Kills takes place in 2018 and then we get a skip all the way to 2022 did Haddonfield have to go through Quarantine?
I think it’s the best of the trilogy as well.
that was fun. great stream. 👍👍 happy halloweens yall
And let's not forget, Michael doesn't care about Laurie so it makes sense that he doesn't treat her like his nemesis. The only reason he came after her was always because of Corey. Watching her outside her house? He was watching Corey going upstairs with Allison? Fighting her at the end? She was just there when he got his mask. Bodies are to Michael what shiny toys are to a child. If they're there chances are he'll play with them.
Such an amazing amazing podcast!!!!!
My favorite horror podcast.
Totally agree that I wish this was Laurie in 2018. They couldve had that fierce side of her but have it be that that’s how she covers up her fears and trawma 😊
From what I get here, I'm not surprised movie got as much hate as it did. Me and & people I went to see it with thought the movie was actually pretty good, well it was a shocking with direction it took to the point we didn't know what to think, but we knew it was good. Not as concluding chapter of this trilogy, but as a movie as a whole. Personally I think it'd be better if they made it a 4 part series, and in between they squeezed one more in which Laurie kinda defeats Micheal in a weird/special way and so on, and it's the same Halloween night of 2018. But I'd like to point out that me and my friends were specialists at avoiding spoilers. For us, in the opening scene we really were expecting Micheal Myers to appear and we were surprised by what happened
Rohan Campbell is a fellow Canuck Mr Cherry
It might've been better if they showed her writing the book throughout the film and then added some narration from the book only at the end of the movie to finally hear a little of what she was writing.
This one right here ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
I think you're missing the point that Allison's close moments with laurie and Lindsey Was absolutely real and they may have continued that relationship. But Laurie insisted that it was time for Allison And then Corey unfortunately Was corrupted by Michael. and changed when's Corey changed because he started to corrupt her. I believe that had blumhouse decided to try to do more movies that they would have switch it from Cory to Michael. But that moment we're according to Michael McDonald's eyes we supposed to signify a huge change.
I did the same thing , didt watch one trailer , no UA-cam content .
I agree with your points completely - this movie was a hot mess. The plot was nonsensical and full of inconsistencies throughout. It was almost like the writers wrote the whole movie in a day without any attention or thought to the characters or the previous films. I thought Judy greers death at the end of the last film would have more of an impact on Laurie in the new movie but they just like glossed over it. Also why would they put such an emphasis on Corey’s plot/character just for him to die in such a random and confusing way at the end. I enjoyed Halloween 2018 but then feel like it went downhill very fast after that.
So not directly about Halloween Ends (but kind of) what if the next Scream movie is about the recent horror trend of ignoring chunks of a franchise ala this Halloween trilogy.
That's what Scream 5 is about.
@@silentsaturn7604 no 5 was requels where you repeat the exact same thing the first movie did while using a mix of new and old characters, I'm talking about as an example all the movies after the first scream movie were erased so there was no Mickey and mrs. Loomis, no Roman, no Jill and Charlie , and no Amber and Ritchie, just Billy and Stu. This would also mean no Stab franchise as it would have only been that 1 book gale wrote about Ghostface.
@@strifenineteen no neve would be super hard, would bring randy back too
@@strifenineteen That's still kinda what Scream 5 is about. Of course Scream would never disown any of it's sequels but they only reference the first and all ties go back to the first. It's as close as you get. they even referenced the new Halloween trilogy.
I disliked all 3 of them but 2018 was okay for the most part.
Ends really lacks the suspense that I think is key to a Halloween film. It became too much of an “elevated” horror movie, which I find funny since that’s a theme in Scream 2022. Hens was a good horror movie, but did not feel like a Halloween movie to me. The only thing that truly saved Kills (or at least put it a notch higher than Hens) was the flashback to ‘78.
I actually really liked Halloween Ends. Laurie Strode is still the most self important person in the universe believing that Michael is really after her Despite the fact that Hawkins is told her that's not true.
But a lot of the citizens of Haddonfield are now Agreeing thanks Michael's attack 4 years ago.
But the 100 different between Corey and Michael and what they do is every single victim almost the Corey killed Corey had a reason for except for maybe the receptionist. Michael just Kills Because he can.
I love this podcast i make a playlist and just chill wheneever i am on my computer. And I did enjoy HENDS it is like mid tier
Resurrection isn’t in any timeline. Forget it exists.
H1, 2, 4, 5, 6
H1, 2, 7
Or you can accept the two above together.
H1, sort of H2, 2018, 2021, 2022
my vote today would still be 1-18-kills-ends *shrugs*
This trilogy was just bits and pieces, characters, storylines and plots, all taken from all the previous films.
Corey...bring me the axe!
Also, when did people stop liking unpredictability. Movies that are predictable can be so boring.
Don't do a another reboot after this I was unset with the ending & the whole film
I think they should have introduced Corey in 2018.
The Corey storyline was serviceable, good even, until he met Michael in the sewer. It was so dumb after that. I would have rather had a final boy that acts as a foil to Michael as someone who is a killer hated by the town
And when a Stanger calls do that too whenever you get the chance to..................................??????
I love Zack's breakdowns but I definitely disagree about this movie. As a Halloween film, i don't enjoy it because it just doesn't feel like a Halloween film, even in terms of atmosphere, mood, look and character consistency......it's a film that's not gonna age well, I don't think it's gonna be this cult classic like Halloween III is. As a horror film, it's not scary, it's not suspenseful, it has an inconsistent tone where I don't know if im supposed to laugh or be scared.
As a film, it doesn't really know what it wants to be, it tries to have its cake and eat it too while failing in the process and a lot of the new potential ideas are all completely dropped and not even paid off by the end. Even as an offbeat weird movie, I get no enjoyment out of it. And I actually like Halloween 6 (the Producer's Cut) because it does have an offbeat storyline, mood, atmosphere, some genuine suspenseful moments and actually does feel like a horror film. The same thing with Halloween III, which works as being just a Halloween film (the season, not the franchise).
I think David Gordon Green should write horror comedies.......that's more of his style in the horror genre, not this.
Zack could you do a episode on P2 2007 and could you do a episode on Revenge 2017 and 13 fan boy 2021 Halloween party 2020 and the mean one 2022 and one on Saw 2 and all the other Saw movies Tremors 2020 and all the other Tremors movies to it as well and red dragon and Hannibal Rising and manhunter before it and the meg Hostel and open 24 hours 2020 cursed of 49er and five nights at Freddy's 2023 and do cabin fever 2 Spring ever and vacancy the final cut and vacancy 2012 could you do those whenever you get the chance to.................??????????...??
Drop off 80% 😬
NOT THE BRONXIAN ILLINOISAN ACCENT!!!! lol i'm fucking-DED.
Ugh. I can’t even watch someone talk about Halloween ends 🤢
Allison I don't like her in the movie I didn't like the way she talked to her grandma I don't like Jeremy
The romantic subplot gave me “Riverdale” energy
Penny wike
Oh Edward is still on this podcast? NOT WATCHING!!!
Horrible movie. Made no sense.
This movies problem was just what it was advertised and promoted as. A lot of people didn’t read between the lines. It’s supposed to be Laurie vs Michael-the end. You got ten minutes of that at the very end. So I think a lot of hate is for that reason. If this was just a random sequel, I think it would be getting a lot more love. It was two movies spliced together. Something new and then ten minutes of what people were expecting 😂
I think people don't even know what they want.
@@silentsaturn7604 agreed.
@@silentsaturn7604 I think it’s ok to say the movie doesn’t belong