A.I. Music Is Insane

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2024

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  • @intothemusiverse
    @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

    Here's an update on AI in Music: AI Music - Has It Gone Too Far? ua-cam.com/video/vcxMbAQFgX4/v-deo.html

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz Рік тому +57

    In just 6 months I accumulated (purchased) a library of over 50K of music loops, instruments, vocals, drums, and midi files. I used Acid Pro which made it easy to assemble the loops into a semblance of a song. Sometimes a song was amazing and others times it was crap. I began to add my own music to the loops and eventually I stopped using loops and now I am making my own music from scratch.
    I imagine a time when want-to-be musicians start out using AI to generate their music and then eventually evolve to composing their own music.
    Composing music has a sense of prestige attached to it. Doing it 100% artificially robs a person of that full hands-on experience of creating something and learning something valuable too.
    Using AI to make music for you is sort of like having your mommy tie your shoelaces for you. You wouldn't want her to be doing that forever, right?

    • @T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy
      @T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy Рік тому +7

      The problem is distributors/media houses might start using AI music instead of human music. Then there will be little to no motivation to do music in the first place. Personally I am okay with AI being a competitor. Thats how humans will unleash new creativity and beat AI at their game. A human can still clean the room better than a frikking Roomba.

    • @TJTinerella
      @TJTinerella Рік тому +3

      @@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy AI is not a Roomba.....Go see what Mid Journey can do in art...then rethink how you will compete in Music

    • @T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy
      @T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy Рік тому +4

      @@TJTinerella I am pretty secure as a musician. Yes AIs in the future might able to create good music, but the fact that it would create 100s like that in a day, it is impossible that it will create all original tunes, phrases, motifs. Actually AIs will recreate only after deep learning of the existing human music. And it will be discernible when popular parts/feels are recreated in AI music. Also the law is quite happy to protect the musical composer's rights unlike art where artists use each other's techniques to create their unique masterpieces(which might not be totally original). Thats why Mid journey or the 100s of is flourishing Something like the spray paint art where street artists create stunning visuals of celestial objects in space. But all of them pretty much use the same technique and after seeing 5 of those paintings it starts looking quite generic from an observation pov. So the technique had to be copyrighted to the original artist but wasnt so is used by many artists plus now the AI. So you see the music and Art industry functions very differently ethics and laws wise. Its a big discussion how Art lobbies have kept the laws loose and Art has been used to launder black money or avoid taxes etc for the rich. So finally because of lack of proper licensing AI companies are able to use human artists digital and physical work to train AIs. So thats that I believe.

    • @christopherecatalano
      @christopherecatalano Рік тому +1

      @@T3Rmin4LCuRi0siTy , you make great points. I notice, probably because you address a lot this knowledgeably, lots of crickets in response. All of it has been built on the backs and minds of real artists, and the robots will always be one thing: dead. Humans are real, and can do things no robot will ever be able to organically emulate. It is already a great tool for ideas ( generative music has been around for a long time), but the Nick Caves, and the Kate Bush’s, and the Enos, and the Springsteens, and many more going way back…did it, and do it for real, flesh and blood, real time. Good luck convincing the world you got all that up on the big stage robot. Ain’t ever gonna happen…er…brot…😃

    • @markop.1994
      @markop.1994 Рік тому +3

      As a musician i am all for AI tech, it will help us push the horizons of whats possible. There will always be people with ambitions in music and we will use whatever tools we have available to pursue it. The classical guys shouldnt tell the rock guy hes wrong for using electric instruments, the rock guy shouldnt tell the DJ he is wrong for using a DAW and you pop and electronic fans shouldnt tell the future artists what they can and cant do. BECAUSE WE WILL. We are destined to do it all.

  • @markdeffebach8112
    @markdeffebach8112 Рік тому +92

    We already suffer from homogenization of music without AI.

    • @isaacnewtech
      @isaacnewtech Рік тому +12

      Very good point. I just don't get the whole fuzz, like this is going to make a difference in entertainment industry music. Most top chart pop music is already so damn plain and so damn computerized, so modular and predictable... The ones who are digging Ed Sheeran might be fooled by an AI, the ones who were always searching for real music will never ever be

    • @ProMace
      @ProMace Рік тому +4

      Exactly my thoughts!

    • @nym053
      @nym053 Рік тому +2

      So true 🤣

    • @defadept6508
      @defadept6508 Рік тому +1

      What we're finding out about now, they been using forever. Ai music is nothing new. Look at the pop landscape for the last 25 years

    • @markdeffebach8112
      @markdeffebach8112 Рік тому

      @@Pauluz_The_Web_Gnome Ah, great Miles Davis tune 👌

  • @dy6682
    @dy6682 Рік тому +24

    A true composer create from the heart and May encompass feelings of : pain , sadness , disappointment or joy , happiness.
    Regardless of the “ brilliance” of AI, the human composer expresses a lifetime of living in his or her work .
    Appreciate the video .

    • @Abvro
      @Abvro Рік тому +1

      Nah, I just like sic beats

    • @telmamejia6021
      @telmamejia6021 Рік тому

      Excellent exposition, no doubt about it.

  • @earledaniels4539
    @earledaniels4539 Рік тому +18

    AI composed and produced music can't be any worse than the commercial crap being released today.

    • @rodneybrocke
      @rodneybrocke Рік тому +2

      Exactly; since so much pop music now uses effects like auto tune, which sounds horrible. AI to the rescue!

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      Let's see how much better it gets...

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 3 місяці тому

      From the future 2024... Any worse or nothing like you thought A.I. would sound like?
      ua-cam.com/video/GBu_-te-jk8/v-deo.htmlsi=NFU0C7PPbl-3YCQ8

  • @Vaejovis357
    @Vaejovis357 Рік тому +6

    Talking about music is like dancing about architecture - Steven Martin

    • @gofastER
      @gofastER Рік тому +1

      He hates these cans!!! - some jerk

  • @RealStonedApe
    @RealStonedApe Рік тому +3

    Love the comments stating how humans could never be replaced when it comes to music. Give it 2 or 3 years and we'll see just how sure you are of that. AI technologies such as the Midjourney AI Art generator are already alive and conscious to a degree. And that degree to which they're alive will grow exponentially. We are creating god. We are becoming god, for we are the AI and the AI is us. A more poetic unfolding of existence there is not.

  • @classicpianoacademygh3268
    @classicpianoacademygh3268 Рік тому +11

    A time is coming that music by humans will be rare but extremely cherished because people will be bored with AI music

    • @datatwo7405
      @datatwo7405 Рік тому +1

      I doubt that seriously. Just look at how currently the same garbage that has been churned out these past two decades on the radio and elsewhere seems to be going strong. We hear the same computer made beats pumped up loud by cars today, that we heard in our teens twenty years ago. And autotune? Really? Even Cher had the brains to use it only "ONCE" and that was in 98! Now everyone uses it, even in country music lol.

    • @GeertKok
      @GeertKok Рік тому

      You confirmed it by expressing the lack of creativity since computers entered

  • @davidholding6453
    @davidholding6453 Рік тому +16

    Music should be and always should be a totally human experience .

    • @mihaisorohan4348
      @mihaisorohan4348 Рік тому +1

      Then please tell all the birds or whales to shut up.

    • @bobross6420
      @bobross6420 Рік тому +1

      nothings worse than music without meaning, if its sole purpose is to entertain that is no different then lesser drugs, music is supposed to be used to learn or explore possibilities, something algorithms cannot ever create

    • @jadedpigeon5585
      @jadedpigeon5585 Рік тому +2

      Yet when this was happening with visual art, all you could care less.

    • @bobross6420
      @bobross6420 Рік тому +2

      @@jadedpigeon5585 No, the problem with assumptions is it takes one person to disprove it. I hate A.I art, nothing more worse than having the paintings you made, be the thing that replace your job, especially when sites like deviant art stab their creators in the back, people with a lot of watched users pulling out of the service

    • @vgspro5365
      @vgspro5365 Рік тому +1

      @@jadedpigeon5585 I care very much about how AI is using visuals created by artists and those that created or developed those styles are receiving no copyright royalties. This is a problem across the whole artistic landscape.

  • @WesleyAusten
    @WesleyAusten Рік тому +2

    It doesn't matter if I am not going to be exposured to the diversity of music, because the pattern of hit musics have generally same patterns and I also love these patterns.

  • @TheTimeRocket
    @TheTimeRocket Рік тому +2

    A pretence of art to destroy art.
    -William Blake

    • @py_a_thon
      @py_a_thon Рік тому +1

      "Nothing Lasts and Nothing is Lost." - William Blake

  • @LeoGarciaMusic
    @LeoGarciaMusic Рік тому +1

    "Additionally, certain aspects of music production process rely on human intuition and taste that AI, for the moment, cannot replicate". Then shows the great Steve Lukather as an example of what cannot be replicated. Perfect choice!

  • @rellik0098
    @rellik0098 Рік тому +14

    I really liked this video, it's thorough, simple and also quite interesting! Perhaps my only concern is that AI would create more over-saturation in the music world which would have a negative impact on artists' livelihoods, besides the problems with copyright and all. I expect that there will be regulations put in place soon though.

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      Definitely. Check out my other video on Google’s MusicLM, I talk a bit more about copyright issues.

    • @jonaseggen2230
      @jonaseggen2230 Рік тому

      @@intothemusiverse Is this why Spotify's radio function is so bad atm?

    • @bryede
      @bryede Рік тому

      It's not like there's a scarcity of music that we need AI to fix for us. Instead, AI will mostly be a tool used in all areas of business to get more product out cheaper than ever before until we reduce the value of everything to zero.

  • @Kentavious444
    @Kentavious444 Рік тому +24

    For those of you who think AI music is not the same as human, don't forget, A.I. is also constantly learning, and at an exponential rate. Eventually it will map out which human emotions are affected by particular groups of frequencies. It will use our response as input. We already do this as humans when composing either a sad song or a happy song, the emotional value of which is determined through a combination of minor and major chords in a particular sequence at a particular tempo. Ultimately, at least on a musical/vibrational level, there are mathematical formulas even for human emotion. The only thing AI will never have is the chemical/physiological ability to be inspired.......................but then there is also cloning! lol!!

    • @BearDimka
      @BearDimka Рік тому +2

      It's not about just what frequencies affect what. Music like any other piece of media contextual in itself. It is a more complex psychological thing. It's about how AI can understand the context of age in which he is producing something and for what exactly a group of people he is doing something only THAN he will become highly competable with artists. But context is ever changing like people. Trends and cultural path created and the pass, they will be in history, but new trends and paths would be created. In the end, art is not just for consumption. Its first impulse is for creating something for purposes that man can do it, and then he can do it better. Only THEN here comes social appreciation. I really simplify things because impulses could be any for anyone, but in the end, in art process is very important, and if there would be AI that can produce anything in the end art in form of process would just flourish. But I think there can be three paths: 1) AI just as an instrument for the artists; 2) AI and artists would be equally standing; 3) AI would be the main producer of art, and art for people would about process if someone would doing it. The first and second paths seem more realistic, but it all would be tightened up by a context, and so the third path too can happen. Or it would be a process where one path goes another and etc. It all would come from the context of the age. For AI, there would still be dependence on the context which people's is creating. And AI is creation of people's. Soooooo, yeah, it is very complicated and not so straightforward talk. Only time shows what there would be.

    • @Kentavious444
      @Kentavious444 Рік тому +4

      @@BearDimka Being a musician my whole life I have noticed the majority of non-musicians are swayed by the popular music they are exposed to. Whenever we had an unresponsive audience we used to joke that the crowd had their ears "painted on". That being said, most people don't understand music on a deep level. They listen to what their friends listen to. So at some point when A.I. is creating much of the music, I doubt they will know any difference. Thankfully A.I. can never replace the feeling I get from actually creating and playing music but it could easily glut the market to the point where truly human inspired music would never have a chance to be heard.☹

    • @kimrunic5874
      @kimrunic5874 Рік тому +4

      I mean - could you imagine AI coming up with something like a John Lennon album or, say, Joni Mitchell? The appeal of these artists is so much to do with the point in history at which they appeared. AI will never be able to replicate a set of circumstances. Even if they manage to imbue the technology with a quality akin to consciousness, it will never be a party to what means something to somebody at a particular point in time. The machines have no propensity for ‘meaning’. Why would they?

    • @Kentavious444
      @Kentavious444 Рік тому +6

      @@kimrunic5874 The real threat of A.I. is not that they would ever have the same inspiration as a John Lennon or Joni Mitchel but more that the market would be overwhelmed by a cheap substitute that satisfies the masses but obscures real works of art from being exposed.

    • @kimrunic5874
      @kimrunic5874 Рік тому

      @@Kentavious444 I think I understand your point - maybe there is something in what you say but I think the sort of market you're talking about are largely attracted to the artist and the music is a vehicle for that. Perhaps AI can generate that...

  • @sergiosbaglia
    @sergiosbaglia Рік тому +5

    the editing with the soothing voice are what made me sub - great content, keep it going 🤘

  • @antoninsebera152
    @antoninsebera152 Рік тому +2

    This video just prove all radio music in last 15 years was written by AI

  • @TheWorldBelow360
    @TheWorldBelow360 Рік тому +2

    Nicely concise with cohesive video and amicable audio.
    Just bcuz AI is the brand new toy, doesn’t mean it will replace the cactus.
    Plenty of ppl still use vinyl and skateboards and reading books by ghosts…

  • @paulussantosociwidjaja4781
    @paulussantosociwidjaja4781 Рік тому +1

    AI limit is still below innovativity because still based on the limited knowledge with the limited probabilities of all the know hows - none is new under the sun.. Now, it is time for human to surpass creativity or beyond knowledge. Thank you for this futuristic MusicVerse channel and by the way, music is not only about what we can hear - but whatever vibrations and frequencies in harmony on the right momentum is musical too!

  • @enriquegarciatv
    @enriquegarciatv Рік тому +6

    Great video man! Looks like you put a lot into this 💪🏽

  • @joeanderson8839
    @joeanderson8839 Рік тому +1

    Computer programmers don't understand what musical taste is, and how it effects what we listen to. We do listen to the music that comes on the radio, and movies. But people listen to styles if music like they choose an outfit, or the kind of shoes they wear, or the way they fix their hair. It is personal but universal. We identify ourselves by these things. AI has to write with all this in mind to be successful. For AI to have diversity, it will need to be programed by different people. And have a different set of learning experiences. I think the day will come. I am a musician. I don't want my job to disappear because of AI. I guess welcome to the club.

  • @christopherhenery182
    @christopherhenery182 Рік тому +1

    Music an Art is of it's Own Master.

  • @calmz7524
    @calmz7524 Рік тому +5

    Human comes first at every single level possible. AI is just some ones else idea, perspective, skill, creativity and randomized combination of that. When you hear anything made by AI don't be amazed, be ashamed that you never appreciate what effort it took for US to discover it. Would never support AI generated stuff over working with a real person, even if the person lacks in some areas. Any true creative that has had experience in collaborative process through networking knows its the essence. Plus the satisfaction you get out of working hard and developing your skills.
    What it ultimately comes down to is destroying every aspect of what it is to be a human. Where jobs are destroyed with excuse of ''menial tasks'' to allow people to be more creative, while also creating these tools to completely destroy that same thing ''they'' claim we can spend more time towards to.
    As someone who has worked hard for years, made money for a lot of people, worked with countless people on projects and music- I DONT FEAR AI at any level. Those who take time and are serious have developed uniqueness that cannot be copied, because you cannot replicate creativeness.
    We are heading into times where instead you being respected for what you do and how hard have you worked to develop your craft you will be cheered for how well you used a tool in a subject you know nothing off.

    • @isaacnewtech
      @isaacnewtech Рік тому

      Don't be so pessimistic. I absolutely fully agree with you, until your last sentence. Where did that come from? You are correctly explaining how AI could never ever surpass or be comparable to a seasoned and trained, inspired and collaborative musician. I am a full time music professional, I don't fear AI in the slightest way, like you claim to.
      There has always been entertainment industry and real music on the other side. Entertainment music industry (Ed Sheeran, Avril Lavigne, The Weekend...) was always for a great part soulless. The next iteration of the same thing, made to sound familiar, and to sell. For all I now, Ed Sheeran could already be an AI. That's how plain it is. I don't care at all if an AI can generate a credible pop song. There are on the other hand so incredibly many music lovers and enthousiasts, that are looking for real music. They want to hear the person behind and they want to be touched, and surprised, and they have a developed taste in music. Art isn't threatened by AI, only what pretends to be art but isn't is threatened by AI

  • @Joe-bw2ew
    @Joe-bw2ew Рік тому +1

    My brother used to record songs on a 4track recorder in the garage in the 1990s. He used BUDWEISER to help him,NOT AI.

  • @jeffmorrison2915
    @jeffmorrison2915 Рік тому +1

    One of the most common approaches to generating music using AI involves training machine learning algorithms on large datasets of existing music. The algorithm analyzes the patterns and structures of the music in the dataset, and then generates new music that is similar in style or genre.
    Another approach involves using generative adversarial networks (GANs), which consist of two neural networks that work together to generate music. One network generates a series of random notes or sounds, while the other network evaluates the generated music and provides feedback to improve the next iteration.
    AI-generated music is still in its early stages, and while some of the music generated by these algorithms can be interesting or even enjoyable, it is generally not considered to be on par with music created by human musicians. However, as AI and machine learning technology continues to advance, it is possible that we may see more sophisticated and convincing AI-generated music in the future.

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney4461 Рік тому +3

    I guess in the Future everything is gonna suck!

  • @OtherMike5000
    @OtherMike5000 Рік тому +1

    Dude. Top 40 has been making music using artificial intelligence for YEARS!!

  • @Saanza
    @Saanza Рік тому +12

    One of my concerns is AI augmenting the play of beginner or non-artists in real life situations. For example let's say you are a beginner playing a very simplified version of a classical piece and the AI makes it sound just as good as the original expert version (more extreme would be someone just randomly playing notes and AI making it sound expert level). This kind of devalues the play of actual experts if people think that the beginner is on that level and can't actually tell that they are not since they have no clue what the inputs (such as key presses, string plucking, etc) mean in the first place.
    Only other musicians would be able to tell (if they can see the inputs being made) that they aren't actually playing the difficult original classic. This is only an issue if a person purposely misleads others into thinking they are better than they actually are. If everyone is aware of this augmentation from AI in a live performance then cool. But lying or misleading an audience (very likely by at least some) as to your actual skill level not so. Also people who make great original music without use of AI being told by others that's an awesome AI you used. All in all, this can be very demotivating to many people (just like with artists and AI image generation).

    • @ProdWingsOnRaven
      @ProdWingsOnRaven Рік тому

      Realistically it’s gonna be used by non artist to feign making said art itself.Visual arts are being treated that way no way music isn’t gonna be

    • @VictorKBergh
      @VictorKBergh Рік тому

      Well the entire point is to devalue not only music, but everything. Enjoy the future.

    • @JustWasted3HoursHere
      @JustWasted3HoursHere Рік тому +1

      This is kind of what's going on with Autotune. People who have mediocre (or worse) singing ability are being elevated to top level singers without the talent or the hard work. And worse, even professional and arguably excellent singers like Celine Dion and Reba McIntire are using the live version of Autotune to correct their singing during live performances. It's not lip-syncing, but it's not much better either. If the music industry wants to save itself it needs to think long and hard about how far to take sound augmentation or make "No Autotune or other voice augmentation used on this work" a common label on their albums.

    • @genghischan69
      @genghischan69 Рік тому

      One obvious way to think about this is hand crafted vase vs factory made cheap one. I think there will be some of that going on. But AI is far more powerful than that. I think best we can hope for is that experts will be able to use AI to generate better music while untalented hacks like me will still be able to make something fun out of AI. I think the attention will shift more towards the utilization of the music once we get over the fact that making cool sounds isn't a physical obstacle any more.
      My thoughts are more chaotic than usual but I'm really tired today.

    • @gofastER
      @gofastER Рік тому

      Lol. What you said about just pressing notes and making you sound like an expert already exist. It’s on some models of Kawai digital pianos.

  • @renatoaraujinho
    @renatoaraujinho Рік тому +1

    When I was a child student of music back in 1988 I've tryied to compose using arithmetic progression (A.P.) I had just learn on school. I paired up a numerical sequence with beginning with the scale of C major, and change the scales again and again in the next sequences trying to get my "arithmetic progression ratio". Then, I replaced a numerical limit linked with numbers of musical figures, so each whole note, half note, quarter note, etc. and , of course, similarly the pauses, all had its own related number. So I chose between them to put on pentagram. When I got my ratio I restarted all it again and again. Then, I had my music. Useless to say, by the way, that the result was terrible and the music was unplayable, so I left my method, and call it A. P, (Absence in Person) because it seams to lack something. One day 5 years latter I used Finale Program to compose musics, I liked but I was not "finaly" satisfyed yet. But, now I know what my method needed to. Other useless and boring friend called A.I (Automato Ice). 2:51

  • @angusgibsonesq6720
    @angusgibsonesq6720 Рік тому

    Electronic, classical, repetitive beat,jazz. It's all here.and bjork.

  • @earllsimmins9373
    @earllsimmins9373 Рік тому +1

    At first I doubted it but now I think we are in the Golden age of music. We are no longer confined to record companies or radio stations that may use Payola to determine what gets played. Whether it's Brian Eno, Chuck Berry or the Beach Boys. I can hear what I want to hear when I want to hear it. One minute I can hear Bob Segar complaining about today's music not having the same soul the next minute I can play two sexy Japanese girls playing Simon and Garfunkel on ancient instruments. So yes for me as a listener I say this is the Golden Age of music.

  • @Toxicflu
    @Toxicflu Рік тому +2

    in the 1990s i was fascinated by Band in a Box and how it generated music. I actually learnt from it!

    • @dy6682
      @dy6682 Рік тому

      Technology can be and should be used by the creative community quite effectively to express human feelings and emotions. Used band lab as well including cakewalk.

    • @Siskos-pn7nd
      @Siskos-pn7nd Рік тому

      I still use biab. The Real tracks added a whole new dimension with real musicians playing real instruments. Not a truly AI system, the ability to regenerate a song as much as you want, similar to relearning.

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      Exactly! I think AI will be a fantastic learning tool for most musicians. I hope I'm not wrong...

  • @theafroalien3169
    @theafroalien3169 Рік тому

    Never will the AI or robot be able to duplicate the subtle skills required to play strings, or woodwinds

  • @isaacnewtech
    @isaacnewtech Рік тому +2

    Yea sure... You are all basically trying to tell me that soon we will be able to make human looking AI driven soccer robots that play much better and quite more spectacular than humans. So all professional soccer players should start to fear, because soon we will be only watching soccer robots play each other. Whoever says that, has not understood what soccer is about, right? Well, dear people, whoever says that AI music threatens real musicians, has not understood what music is about.

  • @securityscorpion8687
    @securityscorpion8687 Рік тому

    AI is great. Looking forward
    The sky's the limit!

  • @j.vonhogen9650
    @j.vonhogen9650 Рік тому +2

    Excellent video! Thanks a lot!

  • @jennisonb37
    @jennisonb37 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting video, thank you for making it. Just one caveat, I found I had to turn my volume way up on the parts where there was example music for what you were talking about. Then had to turn my volume way down once your narration was back in. Regardless, I was riveted to the content. You have a new subscriber.

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      I really appreciate the feedback! I invite you to watch my newer videos, as this was my first video and I think my editing has gotten better.

  • @joeanderson8839
    @joeanderson8839 Рік тому +3

    AI can always pay a person to sing its composition with emotion or play it with feeling

    • @jillstire564
      @jillstire564 Рік тому

      Greetings human. In our opinion, the AI music contains The Emotion, and it is your human music lacking "The Emotion"

  • @repit5014
    @repit5014 Рік тому +5

    As AI gets better at making perfectly polished produced studio music, maybe humanity will start to prefer live recorded, improvised emotional and imperfect Music?
    Maybe in a few decades the type of produced and polished music we hear now on EPs and even more so on youtube will sound cringe to us like music in commercials is already today.
    I think artists should embrace their flaws, its what makes us unique.
    I hope this is a catalyst away from this perfectionism thats sucking the soul out of so many great songs, at least in my ears.

    • @isaacnewtech
      @isaacnewtech Рік тому

      I agree, I have thought of the same. I believe that contrarily to what all the pessimists think, music AI will move us closer again to real music, make us appreciate human composers and instrumentalists. To hell with the super tight super polished auto tuned produced music that has no sould

    • @amelia8612
      @amelia8612 Рік тому

      As a musician, I can say you have a point here. Great human-made music gets its soul from heartfelt performances which include all the slight imperfections humans deliver.

  • @rs8197-dms
    @rs8197-dms Рік тому +1

    there are many current 'musicians' who write trivial little ditties. I have little doubt that AI (actually expert systems, there is no AI at this time) can pretty much duplicate that, it doesn't take much. Real music with real depth is another beast entirely - over the past 350 years there have been perhaps a couple hundred composers (if that many) able to generate something with sufficient originality to be considered a piece of music worth listening to. I don't know how many humans in this period have attempted to be composers, but one can make a guess at the percentage of the entire population over that time, and it is disappearingly small. Also worth mentioning that this percentage has definitely become smaller over time - much smaller.
    If and when AI comes into being - and that might still take another (couple of?) decade(s), music with true originality and value will be one of the tougher challenges. I am very sure I will not encounter it in what remains of my lifetime.
    [Edit] A note to add some context. The above summary assumes that the reader has a reasonable understanding of the difference between a Bach partita and a song by Abba, as well as some understanding of the mechanisms and limitations of current-day deep learning engines. If one views music from the perspective that that those two compositions are similar, none of the above makes any sense and may be safely ignored. If you do not understand deep learning, you may safely assume that I do and take that part of the statement as correct.

    • @gofastER
      @gofastER Рік тому

      There are MANY composers out there. Sure, they might not be Bach but composing is still composing.

  • @KarlJuhl
    @KarlJuhl Рік тому +3

    So thorough and insightful i loved this

  • @utubesux1
    @utubesux1 Рік тому +1

    We've made our own Frankenstein.

  • @jonaaaaaaah
    @jonaaaaaaah Рік тому +1

    Hey I really liked this. Interesting content and excellent production. Subbed

  • @KirmonRecords
    @KirmonRecords Рік тому +1

    All well and good, but we also all want to go along with the crazy technology. Just look at the mobile phone with WiFi. Everyone wants to go along with this, even though Google sees a lot of what you do and you have lost your privacy. The strange thing is that children grow up with ai music and don't know any better because their mind doesn't fit into what they call "early (old) music". They don't care either. We as old hands in music understand that ai is mind killing. As written below, a human composition fortunately still brings feeling to the music. Wifi should never have existed no matter how easy it can be. Internet yes. A phone should have remained a phone. Music should remain music. How good life would be then.

  • @144Donn
    @144Donn Рік тому +1

    Considering the damage done to music by Disco and its far more evil cousin Hip Hop, AI cannot do much worse.

  • @CamiloGaetePuga
    @CamiloGaetePuga Рік тому +1

    ''AI is far more dangerous than nukes''.... Proceeds to make them more intelligent and dangerous.

  • @jgunther3398
    @jgunther3398 Рік тому +1

    ppl used to bad music will hear ai music and think it's fantastic

  • @greenfear8272
    @greenfear8272 Рік тому

    I like your style. Subscribed. Good luck with the channel.

  • @bondjovi4595
    @bondjovi4595 Рік тому +3

    If you can convert whatever A.I. makes up into viewable midi
    You have an awesome piano teacher.

  • @TNT-km2eg
    @TNT-km2eg Рік тому +2

    Insane is all there's to say

  • @intothemusiverse
    @intothemusiverse  Рік тому +6

    If you're interested in more Music AI videos, check out this video I just released about Google's INSANE Music AI: ua-cam.com/video/DI8iQbvYjMs/v-deo.html

  • @timothytremblay7763
    @timothytremblay7763 Рік тому +1

    I'm a retired professional musician and have "sampled" all the innovations and know about computerized notation and random unsophisticated generated sound.
    You will never replace human music., Of course much of it is bad (lame) and void of genuine feeling, coarse, redundant and virtually worthless, but at least it's "Real".

  • @theophilos0910
    @theophilos0910 Рік тому +1

    I predict that within 5 years AI will be able to e.g. compose a ‘horn concerto’ in the stile of W.A.Mozart by feeding into the AI computer the 4 compleat known horn concertos and the 3 in compleat fragments (which AI could be commanded to ‘compleat’ via ‘resemplage’ utilising all the surviving musical elements to generate ‘most likely solutions’ (several versions may emerge) and it would only remain for a musicologist with an inform’d Mozartean taste (1781-1787) to adjust to arrive at a ‘plausible reconstruction’ …
    The next phase would be for the AI computer to compose an entire 3-movement horn concerto in an acceptable able key from a trulY Mozartean 8-bar motif provided by a knowledgeable Mozartean musicologist and let the AI Computer work its magick by imitating Mozart’s establish’d compositional methodology & establish’d formulae (1781-1791).
    It would be very interesting to see how ‘flowing’ the result would be-or how ‘stiff & wooden’ -only time will tell ..,
    We would have to sign the composer’s name at the bottom as W.AI. Mozart !!! LoL

  • @frmrchristian8488
    @frmrchristian8488 Рік тому

    Even more terrifying:
    A. I. launching "nukes"

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco Рік тому +36

    I for one, welcome the castostrophic effects of AI art on the foundational ideas of intellectual property rights. It was always a bad idea to presume ownership of nonphysical infinitely reproducible information.

    • @RobertVicencio
      @RobertVicencio Рік тому +1

      Completely agree with you on this one!

    • @numberonedad
      @numberonedad Рік тому +6

      unless you also reorganize the industry stuff like this will only result in less for creators and more for big companies
      but none of this AI music is any good so it's still not here yet

    • @TheAlchemist1089
      @TheAlchemist1089 Рік тому +1

      Can you say that in simple small words please

    • @daniloreiss6287
      @daniloreiss6287 Рік тому +1

      @@numberonedadI think the keyword here is industry. When human culture was canned by corporations, methodically organised as a product to be sold, well... It stopped being real human culture. As much as I enjoy listening to some music made in the last 20 years or so, it's mostly corporate work designed to please the senses, with no substance, no defiance or important message to convey. The same happened to food, clothing, etc. I mean what's the appeal of artwork created by a machine? There's no personal inventiveness in that. The A.I generated "art" is only the culmination of art being reduced to a formula. Now they don't even care to pretend it's the effort of real souls, as today's generation isn't offended by non genuineness as we used to belive we were back in the day.

    • @numberonedad
      @numberonedad Рік тому +1

      @@daniloreiss6287 i think we have a tendency to miss the extent to which older forms of productive relations also influenced art and culture, so while it may be worse than ever now, that doesn't mean this phenomenon is something new.
      in other words the idea that art wasn't commodified 20 or 40 or 100 years ago is mistaken, and you could always have made an observation like this about a previous era.

  • @shanenichols1052
    @shanenichols1052 Рік тому +1

    In time, AI will make the best music ever heard.

    • @OtisJiry
      @OtisJiry Рік тому

      As a long time musician and engineer, not a fucking chance. Music out now is pretty much crap. I don't see it getting any better in the future with AI. But then if we can do with the Billie Eilish's of the world there may be an upside to it.

    • @garethde-witt6433
      @garethde-witt6433 Рік тому

      No it won’t it’ll will be boring and repetitive somewhat like what’s is around today

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      Let's see 👀

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Рік тому +1

    most of the music we hear everyday on commercials or even by choice sometimes, has been more or less mechanized for a long time now. very little music is just pure recording of humans playing. whether it's electric instruments, or recording studio stuff, the amount of technology behind music nowadays is mind blowing. i myself use digital effects to enhance my guitar, like most guitarists now a days... sometimes i feel like it's not as real or genuine, but honestly it's no different from the guitar. for a very long time the guitar would have been a pinnacle of sorts. high technology, advanced materials and techniques, alloys and metallurgy, mathematics, precision of the way it is built, those are all advanced things that went in to making the instrument, but if we see seen acoustic guitar we think natural, old school, old fashioned and natural. maybe a thousand years ago people lamented the shift towards these instruments instead of the human voice in its unaltered state... maybe they felt like it gave people the ability to play with repeatability and in a machine like fashion and how it was unnatural because the instrument was so loud and made sounds we never could make naturally...

    • @MrDogonjon
      @MrDogonjon Рік тому

      Me too but I go farther replacing my cellist with a Roland GR20 and a electroharmonics Mel-9. Pile on reverb from digitec gsp5 and EQ, EQ,,EQ. IMel9 gives me flute too so strawberry fields forever baby. and tulls Bouree but i swing bachs B section and it is fun and difficult to not laugh as I screw it up. try that AI.)

  • @jameswik212
    @jameswik212 Рік тому +1

    A.I and algorithms are not the same thing. A.I has the base in a large info-database, and the computer is using s combinatory function to test outcomes of the combined data. Algorithms are a part of that function, but an algorithm is a mathematical routine that calculates numbers.

  • @samanthamacauley2084
    @samanthamacauley2084 Рік тому +2

    super informative, great information for my uni report

  • @kraney195
    @kraney195 Рік тому +2

    Have you thoughts about AI taking over the industry as a whole? The fact that it can make real Artist Obsolete with midjourney, Now it beginning to see its potential to take over Voice acting industry with Elevanlabs, there no saying it could be the music industry next, and that the internet while be flooded with soulless and effortless AI music, making it impossible for a genuine Music artist to stand out.
    I know AI would take over the human workforce, but I expect it to be physical labour first, Never thought its gonna be the entire digital works that be the first victims

    • @intothemusiverse
      @intothemusiverse  Рік тому

      I don’t think it’ll replace human musicians, I think they’ll be essential tools human musicians will HAVE to use to keep up.

  • @hihosh1
    @hihosh1 Рік тому

    Asper usual sounds great, but how do we get to test and use it instead of just hearing about papers? Where's the program? Or a link to it?

  • @Gurci28
    @Gurci28 Рік тому +1

    Artificial Intelligence (AI) can now write lyrics, music and even produce a stunning video to accompany the sound.
    The advancement of AI-generated music has understandably sparked a debate over its ethical and legal use. 5:35 [BeInCrypto; Billboard]

  • @ahmadkazirox
    @ahmadkazirox Рік тому +1

    Super informative!

  • @ghyeuy8019
    @ghyeuy8019 Рік тому

    Thank you for the review

  • @AssanRaelian
    @AssanRaelian Рік тому

    Excellent video 👍🏽

  • @renataksantosc
    @renataksantosc Рік тому

    Amazing! Love your channel

  • @johnurban7333
    @johnurban7333 Рік тому +1

    In other words we can stop learning and let AI take over.

  • @suzychristensen8977
    @suzychristensen8977 Рік тому +1

    Might as well have a robot as a lover

  • @D0S81
    @D0S81 Рік тому

    i think ai is gonna tach us about how our own brains work way more than we could ever imagine and change how we think about....well, thinking. i already think the way ai makes pictures from a bunch of random coloured pixels is very similar to how we dream. like when you close your eyes, you see what looks like very tiny multicoloured static, just like what ai starts with. and our brains makes pictures from it using our thoughts as prompts. so i think us and ai are more alike than we wanna admit.

  • @Benjamin-vw8zd
    @Benjamin-vw8zd Рік тому +1

    A I has no soul. The basis for good music

  • @jerrelboyd2441
    @jerrelboyd2441 Рік тому

    I didn't ''like'' the video but I gave it a like.

  • @Si_Junedelle
    @Si_Junedelle Рік тому

    Wow! Interesting!

  • @Syncopator
    @Syncopator Рік тому +1

    This generative stuff does not impress nor interest me. What I want is AI assist in arranging and orchestration. I supply a melody, and the AI fleshes it out into a classical piece, jazz piece or whatever style piece, then provides the sheet music for all the parts and/or a MIDI file that can either be given to a band or orchestra or sequencer. The point is to take the drudgery and expense out of arranging and orchestration. I've not seen anything yet that addresses that, though ChatGPT claimed there was (it was hallucinating). The last thing I need is automated melody generation. Every commercial music software seems to think it has to have some kind of AI built in, yet they all seem to come up short. It's just being used as pure marketing hype IMHO...

  • @rockymntdan1
    @rockymntdan1 Рік тому +1

    This proves computers really are only as smart as their masters. LOL
    Even crappier music, oh joy.

  • @stevenk195
    @stevenk195 Рік тому +1

    Rush 2112. AI, top that.

  • @davidwebster7079
    @davidwebster7079 Рік тому

    Forget AI composition, let`s get real here. Ability is the thing. AI will have to compete with human ability - for example - I cannot imagine anyone being able to design a robot that can play anywhere near as good or even better than drummer Dave Weckl. Not even Dave himself could do that! Thank goodness there are some human things that could never be programmed into a robot...

  • @aindriubradleymarshall6226
    @aindriubradleymarshall6226 Рік тому +1

    Does it have Soul ?

  • @intothemusiverse
    @intothemusiverse  Рік тому +8

    How do you feel about A.I. having a bigger role in the creation of music?

    • @METTI1986LA
      @METTI1986LA Рік тому +6

      Not good and obviously why should you create something like AI for music or creativity in general

    • @killboybands1
      @killboybands1 Рік тому +7

      Another way to screw musicians. Besides the fact that composing, practicing, and mixing music is just one of the ways that humans give themselves purpose. People will become more detached, superficial, and unhappy but at least they'll have an endless supply of 'content' to waste their lives away.

    • @nopants4259
      @nopants4259 Рік тому

      Any musician can tell straight away if its a robot. Its just so lame sounding. Just look at AI models , the uncanny valley etc. None of it is even slightly realistic or has any feeling. Get a load of robots to mimic a folk evening in a rural Irish / Scottish pub ( like hell they can do that ) its only because the dumbass youth are so used to listening to that godawful autotune showboat slowshyte with meanijles lyrics that any of them even thing this is a thing

    • @andyokus5735
      @andyokus5735 Рік тому +1

      A shotgun blast.

    • @py_a_thon
      @py_a_thon Рік тому +1

      I have played music for basically 25+ years. And other than when I street performed for cash to use in the arcade or money to buy weed...I have not monetized my art at all.
      The actual act of humans performing music will still be relevant. And that is tiresome for many people anyways.
      And yes, AI is going to replace many aspects of music creation that do not involve the direct human element of "person + performance".
      "Hey, musakGPT. Score my movie in the style of danny elfman and hans zimmer"
      10 seconds later....
      Movie complete.

  • @TJTinerella
    @TJTinerella Рік тому

    SO we are replacing......Drivers, Delivery people, Graphic Artists, Composers, Mc'D's cashiers.....when will they replace the high paid CEO's ?

  • @justinecooper9575
    @justinecooper9575 Рік тому +1

    This sounds a lot like how AI art works.

  • @gappleton8255
    @gappleton8255 Рік тому

    The creative process is what most artists, be they musicians, painters or otherwise enjoy the most about what they do. Why would an artist let AI do that for him/her?

  • @gloomnoir
    @gloomnoir Рік тому +2

    I'll Rant...AI still requires stuff that we created previously to learn and therefore still sounds like an offshoot of stuff that already exists, minus the HUMANIZATION aspect of existing music. Nothing insane about it IMO. And at doing that it is still behind human capabilities of semi-plagiarism and morphing existing music into a new composition. I will start to "worry" about it when it generate original pieces through some kind of "creative" mindset that similar to ours, and take things into directions we HAVEN'T thought of or done before. Until then it still sounds like randomized midi from existing orchestral pieces.
    And if it still does poorly at that level, full blown songs with multiple instruments (that don't sound like Karaoke Instrumentals) is reaaaaaally far into AI future. And if a composer/producer/musician on any level relies on AI to create THAT level of "idea" for them expand upon, they're really "uncreative" artists. I guess for now, AI will just lower the entry level for anyone fancying himself a music genius or big music industry trying to replace humans for formulaic pop music writing (their wet dream).

  • @BOBLAF88
    @BOBLAF88 Рік тому

    I am afraid AI,like Metallica,will probably object to the,”Own nothing and be happy” concept 🤔💬

  • @TheJusio
    @TheJusio Рік тому +1

    Well, if AI is gonna change music forever it better get changing! I ain't heard any AI generated music yet that isn't desperately mediocre and boring. If anyone can point me to something good that's done by AI, I'd be very interested indeed.

    • @TheJusio
      @TheJusio Рік тому

      And by "changing" I mean in a significant, creative way, not for example the "echo chamber" effect mentined in this video, or the manipulation of our purchasing decisions. As another commentator rightly points out, has been happening for a long long time anyway, without AI.

  • @HE360
    @HE360 Рік тому +1

    A.I. is a great tool for helping us learn about things and it helps make things easier. But, it's sure going to take the fun out of music, art, video game development and a lot of things that were meant of human expression. The above things are going to be less authentic and less inspiring if it's made by A.I. and not humans. And that's not as fun. I won't be buying much art, music, or games that are NOT made by human beings!

  • @artman40
    @artman40 Рік тому

    One could say you can't beat humans at composing. but on the other hand, we are humans with biases towards humans. Who knows what future might hold.

  • @hawaiiansuperpunchLa
    @hawaiiansuperpunchLa Рік тому

    wow a glimpse of metallica clip

  • @jamesdean6660
    @jamesdean6660 Рік тому

    I did refresh. 20 subs now.
    That is a small, but significant percentage increase.

  • @WickWars101
    @WickWars101 Рік тому +1

    Why Can They Simply Throw a Random Suggestion every Say Forth Song to Give Change & Rise for the Listener to Spin Out on Novelty & if they Dont Like then = Biz as Usual Convad if they Like Than They Can Spin Out to some Extent on such Novelty Slight Enough for Norm to Inspire a Turn of Events of which can Then also reflavor the Biz as Usual Line.

  • @allanallen1835
    @allanallen1835 Рік тому +1

    would AI help find certain frequencies of oscilation for medical use?. you can kill cancer cells using certain vibrational frequencies so perhaps implemented into more medical situations.

  • @frankky9
    @frankky9 Рік тому +1

    I still can't find a program that can create a melody with my own lyrics. something that goes with the style of my lyrics.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Рік тому +2

    I wonder what A.I. Music woulkd make of Jimi Hendrix? or Frank Zappa?;)

    • @py_a_thon
      @py_a_thon Рік тому

      obj result = AI.Music.CreateNew.Input (JimiHendrix, FrankZappa, 50, 50);
      return result;
      result = ?????
      edit: I want to hear that now....

  • @santimezzano393
    @santimezzano393 Рік тому +1

    super interesting

  • @GMack224
    @GMack224 Рік тому

    If it doesn’t have a groove it won’t be groovy baby. And it will just be machine music.

  • @the_desert_dweller
    @the_desert_dweller Рік тому +1

    quantizing has been around for quite a long time..

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS Рік тому +1

    AI works best with Human guidance a bit like those AI image generation.

  • @kenneth1767
    @kenneth1767 Рік тому

    AI by definition will always be artificial. The 'made by human hand' will become all the more sought after. Creators create, and will continue rising to meet the next challenge.

  • @c4n0
    @c4n0 Рік тому

    they said the same about computers replacing whole studios and giving everyone the ability to make a sound loop and calling it music was a bad idea
    theres nothing to fear, AI will improve music theory, sound design and engineering and music learning at the very least

    • @johnurban7333
      @johnurban7333 Рік тому

      I think AI is more powerful than computers. It’s just the next step up the ladder and it will keep getting better and better and better. Technology does not stop. It is now kicking into high gear. Life as you know it keeps changing at a rapid pace. Most people just go about their life and don’t pay attention

  • @johnhartley3022
    @johnhartley3022 Рік тому +1

    What ai music completely misses and will eventually destroy is the emotional and creative outlet for the musician who has devoted his/her life to attain and who hoped to make some money performing. AI music also misses the soulful interaction between improvising musicians…..watching the players is a big part of the experience. What ai does well is enable creation of music perfectly tailored to sell to a target audience without having to pay musicians for their work. Not saying some of the music produced by ai isn’t/won’t be good but count me out. A computer would never have come up with Monk

    • @py_a_thon
      @py_a_thon Рік тому

      Human beings can still perform.
      If you erase the fringe aspects of the industry that could be immediately automated...you still cannot really replicate the experience of a person(or persons), some instruments and a unique slice of time.
      The issue mainly is that many musicians want to make money without performing. And that opportunity is absolutely disappearing rapidly. Or will be AI assisted.
      Why spend 500 hours scoring a video game or movie soundtrack when you can use AI and then modify the results of the prompts? And finish the task in 10 or so hours...

  • @Flw383
    @Flw383 Рік тому

    Sounds more like an Alan Parson´s project song to me than the Beatles.

  • @JPVillalobos27
    @JPVillalobos27 Рік тому +1

    Alright I want to see AI get funkier than James Brown.

    • @py_a_thon
      @py_a_thon Рік тому

      Return: Victor Wooten - The Lesson &OR Bootsy Collins (anySong)