*Since this was recorded there has been an update from Aidan regarding the allegations made against him:* instagram.com/p/CnJmSjMpedE *Do you think Dealer are coming back? What are your thoughts?*
Hope they release a banger, even tho their vocalist is absolutely got ratio-ed last time like As I Lay Dying. Let's just hope Aiden stop being pos and not to get cancelled the second time
@@dewaalvandercolff251 Dude got convicted of SA, he's irredeemable at this point for me, shame I didn't know about any of this, now my playlist will be slightly shorter
Loved alpha wolf, love the new Alpha Wolf, loved the rivalry between alpha wolf and dealer. Dealer coming back will be interesting. All I know is we will get some Bangerz from Alpha Wolf and that’s all I really care for. If Dealer wants to come back and stay in the scene, they need to clear up their shit and air out everything that happened.
especially if they're coming back with Aiden. There's no way they think they can come back and not have Aiden make a statement about what he was accused of.
@@BulldogSp33d I'm struggling for sources. But my understanding from friends was ... that post AW and pre Dealer there were accusations of SA and an involved legal/court battle. Dealer was formed during the legal stuff, at which point it had quieted down enough that Aiden could operate. But Josh had said that Aiden was a manipulator and or a bully to the him and other band members. Severely affecting Josh's mental health. The courts/legal issues re-arose so Dealer shuffled off, but now he's not guilty or has been acquitted ... So Dealer back. So somebody gonna have to post something vaguely encompassing an explanation. And then do it A LOT fucken better than what Daniel Wand from Capsize did.
@@NotMrDaine I used to be somewhat friends with Josh on Facebook. I even remember when he sent me some VERY early demos of the early Dealer stuff. Last time I talked to him was after the 2nd Dealer EP when he dipped out of the band again. He told me that the only reason Josh was involved in the second EP at all was because Aidan was threatening Josh and his family, so Josh went along with it to “keep his family safe”.
@@Ron_Swanson the same members who apologized and said they were wrong minus 1 member who has his own skeletons in the closet to deal with? You know, the one who robs people with actual evidence.
I have no idea if he's guilty or not but like 2 years ago a few people from the area including past band members commented on reddit saying all will be revealed after the trial and nothing ever was so I'm guessing he wasn't found guilty in the end.
@@cdula26 Imagine being Aidan though this had been going for 5 years, his original band used it as a excuse to drop him and slander him all over reddit even though he wrote their first album then spend 5 years getting blasted online all for the judge to throw it out because the bitch obviously was making shit up. worst part? no repercussions for woman that do it.
The drummer has always been in the band, if I remember correctly, he was the drummer of the extinct Australian band Capture The Crown, he and the controversial vocalist are the only two original members that remain in the band
Here’s the question, who was the worst singer situation. Lotus eater or Dealer? I heard lotus’s singer did some, really bad things regarding his foot and some women. trust me it’s worse then it sounds
Yeah nah, Josh was 90% of the reason Dealer was sick to begin with so i'll just stick with Pincer+ and Heavensgate. They fucking slap and also make it incredibly clear that Josh was the reason Dealer was good.
vocalist is a sexual assaulter and was also just generally a dick to the rest of the band to the point where the whole band quit on him. Surprised that they're reforming with that same vocalist again but I'm intrigued. They were straight up my favorite new band in like 2020
same. i kinda hate that i feel like i have to background check every band now. not because anyone makes me, but because i don't wanna support assholes. i did enjoy gloryhammer for like 30 minutes though.
@@Chron880late to this but I heard something about him paying $8000 to an alleged victim out of court? A lot of shit on Reddit got deleted so I can’t find it now. Also it was weird how their last guitarist Jake was known for sexually assaulting women. I also can’t find Josh Ang’s old post about it. Very weird and I haven’t seen/heard any sound evidence from either side
The allegations were dropped...... sucks to see you spreading misinformation a little bit here Nik, should've checked that stuff before spending 5+ mins talking about how they're coming back amongst such allegations. Apparently they were dropped so I think Aiden deserves a shot and this kind of video immediately cancels them all over again
Well here's the real question are you gonna do a reaction video to their new song Show Me The Body? I have been checking everyday to see if you have done it yet lol
so..Capsize are back..Dealer are back..next we get Lotus Eater back? I loved Dealer and I loved Capsize but withour clearing shit up I don't see any of them having a chance in the scene after they got cancelled for what they did (especially its about the face of the band). Aiden wasn't found guilty in case of the SA against the woman but what about the Mental Abuse against Josh? Did he got cleaned of that as well? As far as we know - no.
Well there was a vid of him doing shit with a girl while both were intoxicated. She used it as publicity and claime to be assaulted (lie) they were BOTH doing it. She posted it on her Onyfans which was red flag number 2. I love shrine. Greg is innocent
All these allegations but very little proof. I have no idea who those band even is but when people get "canceled," because he said she said we all loose. Inoccent until PROVEN guilty. Maybe he is a pos, idk. But there're plenty who aren't who still got blasted.
the whole band left because he was a horrible piece of shit, regardless of the allegations. I think that speaks for itself that they were probably true.0
@@tze.maurini yeah. Alpha wolf kicked him out for being a manipulative dickhead, dealers line up changes twice for the same reason and three girls have accused him of sexual assault. Also dad is a cop man, so yeah. You do you boo
I don’t get how people didn’t like shrine coming back, I mean, check the comment section, plus the whole allegation shit is getting annoying, happened to CJ and guess what it was bs, happens to keep on happening to more and more vocalists and nobody sees a pattern?
Maurice was the Bassist or Dealer. I worked with him, and was around when all of the original stuff went down. He’s a great dude, hope that if they do come back, it’s without Aiden and it’s successful
@@2spook41 If you read my comment I said I was there when all of the original stuff came out. I.e. The Allegations. I didn’t care enough to follow the investigation. On top of that, my reason for saying without Aiden is because there will be unavoidable backlash, which 4-5 other people who are talented musicians do not deserve. I never once said I think he did it, you’ve merely assumed my stance. Maybe if you asked why I would prefer they came back without Aiden, or as you eloquently put it “research abit (a bit, by the way) before saying shit” you’d have a better understanding.
@@Masterbullet90 So you were there in the Alpha wolf days? because that's when the allegations came out Alpha wolf used that as an excuse so get rid of him instead of sticking by him even though he wrote most of the first album. Remember he had all charges dropped on him after the woman started changing her story so much after he pleaded not guilty. Dealer IS Aiden so the backlash doesn't matter.
He was the vocalist for Alpha Wolf from like 2016-2018 but got kicked out due to SA allegations. He then started Dealer with Josh Ang and then more allegations came out plus Josh accused him of being manipulative and abusive behaviour.
SA allegations which seem to have been disproven in court so he’s not guilty of them but he also abused and bullied his band mate Josh Ang who basically wrote all of Soul burn and some of Saint wind his abuse and bullying allegations haven’t been disproven or addressed
They were false allegations those are pretty old now I think lol what happened last time was that he was a big prick to the bass player and the band got sick of dealing with him being a prick so they left
I'm already seeing a lot of people angry about this possible news about Dealer, specifically about Aiden. I was willing to give these guys a chance despite what I heard about Aiden and Alpha Wolf. Now hearing about what's been going on with past band members and Aiden with Dealer, I'm not interested. I support Aussie rock and metal music as an Aussie myself but I don't think I can support Dealer with Aiden still onboard.
I honestly really hate it when talented bands have these canceled moments. I'm hoping they come back and things go well and ppl learn to just shut up and listen to music.
Frankie never had allegations that were so severe though. Aiden had a bunch of legal baggage that left a permanent mark on his reputation. Even if he is innocent, people from the metal scene aren't gonna look kindly on him.
@@StevenZissimos normies shouldn't be listened to, they have no rational brains, it's legit purposeless. 😂 Smear campaigns.are toxic as shit. Just move on with your life and don't listen to them 99.9% of the time the problem is multifactor and TWO PEOPLE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROBLEMS.
@@StevenZissimos being innocent, and being treated like he is guilty is a shitty thing to do. The word for that is slander. That chick, and the guys in Alpha Wolf can't keep his name out of their mouths, even now with the Oceano tour. The scene is a fucking joke.
Despite everything I still feel like Dealer is peak pissedcore. No other band gets my blood pumping like Dealer does. Pretty excited to see things stirring up for them, and really hoping Aiden can disprove the allegations.
I don’t see Aiden disproving the allegations. I think the best thing for Dealer would be to bring back the original lineup but with a new vocalist. Unfortunately, I think Aiden has the legal rights to Dealer so I don’t see that happening. And who knows if the band would be as good with another vocalist but I think it would yield the best possible results for the band in their situation.
@@J.Shambles You're right, honestly. I just really miss the energy they brought to the table. As one local blogger said "only a true villain can write and deliver shit like this".
@@KASTAWORON I miss them too. I don’t think they’ll ever be able to match the energy of their first EP. But regardless, seeing Dealer return in any type of way is exciting.
I still slam to dealer. I wish the dynamic wasn't what it was and they were able to sort out Aidan because the Dealer Sound was absolutely fantastic and I need more like this in my life
About the Shrine of Malice thing, the vocalist's ex came out and said the vocalist r*ped her and recorded it. Well, the video she said he recorded, she ended up posting to OnlyFans and PH, then sent him texts apologizing for making the situation up. Dude was falsely accused and it was proven, thats why he's back with the band. But a lot of people still call him a monster which is extremely messed up and the band will never be the same because of the false accusation.
Its actually just a song from their album that they didn't get to release because of the shit with Greg. The album was leaked months before the release date and I've had it for years. It is good, but it isn't Sheol good which made it easier to deal with the band ending
*Since this was recorded there has been an update from Aidan regarding the allegations made against him:* instagram.com/p/CnJmSjMpedE
*Do you think Dealer are coming back? What are your thoughts?*
The cancellation was a stunt promo xD
Aidan is my favourite vocalist ever, but it sounds like he is a pos. If this is true, i hope he doesn't do the same problems
Hope they release a banger, even tho their vocalist is absolutely got ratio-ed last time like As I Lay Dying. Let's just hope Aiden stop being pos and not to get cancelled the second time
@@dewaalvandercolff251 Dude got convicted of SA, he's irredeemable at this point for me, shame I didn't know about any of this, now my playlist will be slightly shorter
@@ZRisyad ratio-d by the jury
"the band doesn't have to say "we broke up" "
*cries in Blessthefall
Dealer was my favorite band for like 6 months. They did the “arf arf” better than knocked loose. Fight me
No fight necessary. 100% agreed! 🤘
They 100% did
Uh, no... Knocked Loose reks.
They did it MORE
Aussie's arf way better than the rest
Dealer has really good music. Loved both of their EPs. New track is sick.
New Order of Mind dropped yesterday - you got a reaction?
ARF! ARF! 😆
It's slaps tho, ain't gonna lie
Aidan is the real alphawolf 🎉 dealer LETS go ❤🎉🎉❤
They just put out a new song at midnight. And this is literally the ONLY thing I’ve been able to find talking about them coming back.
Show me the body.
None of the "reaction" UA-camr's will touch it. Their will be some backlash from Dealer keeping Aidan and none of them want that negative attention.
I’ve been wondering the same thing … they’re all just straight ignoring it. They know they’ll love it too which is the problem
good
@@shauncollins2017 Why, because of allegations that weren’t proven true in a court of law? Why do people think allegations = guilty?
Aiden beat the wrap. Dealer is back baby. Im so excited
Diesect throwing some Dealer vibes lately!
Dealer's two EPs are my fav. But Pincer and Heavensgate are fkn wild so I'm quite happy listening to them and looking towards their new stuff
Alex Milovic (ex-Northlane) was bassist for a minute.
Loved their music. Just bangers they came out with those 2 songs hit.
Aaaand they dropped a new track today! You called it!
where is it?? i need to listen to that shit
@@lnzeira Spotify
Loved alpha wolf, love the new Alpha Wolf, loved the rivalry between alpha wolf and dealer. Dealer coming back will be interesting. All I know is we will get some Bangerz from Alpha Wolf and that’s all I really care for.
If Dealer wants to come back and stay in the scene, they need to clear up their shit and air out everything that happened.
especially if they're coming back with Aiden. There's no way they think they can come back and not have Aiden make a statement about what he was accused of.
@@BulldogSp33d I'm struggling for sources. But my understanding from friends was ... that post AW and pre Dealer there were accusations of SA and an involved legal/court battle. Dealer was formed during the legal stuff, at which point it had quieted down enough that Aiden could operate. But Josh had said that Aiden was a manipulator and or a bully to the him and other band members. Severely affecting Josh's mental health. The courts/legal issues re-arose so Dealer shuffled off, but now he's not guilty or has been acquitted ... So Dealer back.
So somebody gonna have to post something vaguely encompassing an explanation. And then do it A LOT fucken better than what Daniel Wand from Capsize did.
@@BulldogSp33daiden posted his story, only addressed his SA allegations and said nothing about his abuse towards his past band members.
@@losingapathy yeh saw it, the guy is still cancelled in my book for being a fcking ass to his old bandmates
@@NotMrDaine I used to be somewhat friends with Josh on Facebook. I even remember when he sent me some VERY early demos of the early Dealer stuff.
Last time I talked to him was after the 2nd Dealer EP when he dipped out of the band again. He told me that the only reason Josh was involved in the second EP at all was because Aidan was threatening Josh and his family, so Josh went along with it to “keep his family safe”.
holy crap that pic at 1:22 had me crying out loud from the stream prior
Aiden the vocalist beat the charges just so everyone knows that likes to cancel without substance
I heard that and flooded their tracks like it's Black Friday 🎉
So multiple overhauls of the entire lineup, multiple anecdotes from many people including other members isn’t “substance”?
@@Ron_Swanson the same members who apologized and said they were wrong minus 1 member who has his own skeletons in the closet to deal with? You know, the one who robs people with actual evidence.
Just listen to HEAVEN'SGATE, I'm p sure both guitarists from Dealer ended up in that project, they only have two songs rn but they be smackin
Debut LP of Dealer is fucking phenomenal!!
Josh Ang wrote the 1st EP and some of his parts were used on the 2nd however it was mostly written by Mitch from Varials.
Mitch left one good band to join a great band.
@@testingmyaudioaddiction3452 what you mean left? Mitch just ghost wrote he didnt leave varials
@@MitPeen oh, I totally missed that.
josh wants nothing too do with aiden anymore hes never coming back too dealer
As matter of fact 🤓, HAJAJ, no, seriously, Josh stated that the saint is HIS work, he said :” even the name is mine”
Came back to this video after dealer just dropped a new song
I have no idea if he's guilty or not but like 2 years ago a few people from the area including past band members commented on reddit saying all will be revealed after the trial and nothing ever was so I'm guessing he wasn't found guilty in the end.
he pleaded not guilty and the woman started changing her story so the charges were dropped.
@@AlerionKws Yup. Fuck that “believe all women” BS.
@@cdula26 Imagine being Aidan though this had been going for 5 years, his original band used it as a excuse to drop him and slander him all over reddit even though he wrote their first album then spend 5 years getting blasted online all for the judge to throw it out because the bitch obviously was making shit up.
worst part? no repercussions for woman that do it.
@@AlerionKwswhat about the multiple previous band members that came out about his abuse toward them
The drummer has always been in the band, if I remember correctly, he was the drummer of the extinct Australian band Capture The Crown, he and the controversial vocalist are the only two original members that remain in the band
Shitty what happened with them, but my god Soul Burn is one of the biggest slaparoonies of the past 5yrs. I was OBSESSED for so long
he posted on his socials and i m ready for the comeback
Dealer back and they sound better than they did before!
Here’s the question, who was the worst singer situation. Lotus eater or Dealer? I heard lotus’s singer did some, really bad things regarding his foot and some women. trust me it’s worse then it sounds
Didn't even know le had something happen
@@I-DEPRESSIONIST oh boy. look into “surviving Paul collins”
@d0wn14 there album was a week out from being released then allegations come up and boom no album. So sad
@@killer_greag3541 on yt or anything
new order of mind is aoty
Seths playing guitar new track pumps. If you aint guilty you aint guilty hope they go hard af.
They back, Show me the body is fire
This aged well….
Nick dealer is back and I’m yet to see anything from you about it 😢
He made a mistake and now his ego is too big to backpedal
Yeah nah, Josh was 90% of the reason Dealer was sick to begin with so i'll just stick with Pincer+ and Heavensgate. They fucking slap and also make it incredibly clear that Josh was the reason Dealer was good.
love
Big facts
Nah, all the members are what made Dealer good
Besides all the allegations, Aiden is a really poor live vocalist
I literally just found them like 6 weeks ago, and now I'm learning they were cancelled amd now might come back.
Wtf is metal😂
Wtf indeed!
'Phrost
vocalist is a sexual assaulter and was also just generally a dick to the rest of the band to the point where the whole band quit on him. Surprised that they're reforming with that same vocalist again but I'm intrigued. They were straight up my favorite new band in like 2020
@BendyDH really? Huh, the more you know lol
But yeah, they made some really good music
same. i kinda hate that i feel like i have to background check every band now. not because anyone makes me, but because i don't wanna support assholes. i did enjoy gloryhammer for like 30 minutes though.
we are all dealer
the comeback is real 😁😁😁😁
I have no issues if they come back with Aiden, as long as he proves that those allegations were just that, allegations.
They aren’t just allegations. There is so much information available at this point. There has been for years now. But I guess people don’t care
from what ive read she was just making it up, couldnt provide police with further info and lack of evidence, so they dropped the charges
@@MrCk1234567890 Can you link the information please? I genuinely want to know
The charges have apparently been dropped.... there is an ENORMOUS difference between allegations/accusing and truths/charges. @@MrCk1234567890
@@Chron880late to this but I heard something about him paying $8000 to an alleged victim out of court? A lot of shit on Reddit got deleted so I can’t find it now. Also it was weird how their last guitarist Jake was known for sexually assaulting women. I also can’t find Josh Ang’s old post about it. Very weird and I haven’t seen/heard any sound evidence from either side
Aiden is Dealer. Let’s go!
You know that asking Alexandria and BMTH both had some pretty strong allegations in the 00’s right?
Reminded of Lotus Eater… cancelled, come back, cancelled again in releasing the new album. Sucks too bc that album was gonna be soooo good
The allegations were dropped...... sucks to see you spreading misinformation a little bit here Nik, should've checked that stuff before spending 5+ mins talking about how they're coming back amongst such allegations. Apparently they were dropped so I think Aiden deserves a shot and this kind of video immediately cancels them all over again
Plus in the breakdown compilations he said he can't enjoy it because of cancelcore or some stuff. It's sad.
If you read the pinned comment he posted a year ago, he kinda clears that up big dog.
Heavily agreed!! False allegations running Rampant these days! Shame Nick! SHAME
React to their new song now?? It’s fkn unreal
When dealer realese new album, I instantly bought new cd and some merch 😼🧨
And they are back
1:25 You post WHAT Nik 😳😳
News, obviously
'Phrost
Glad to know my hearing isn’t failing me haha
*Archer voice* PHRASING
DEALER is fucking back!!!!!
Please do Red Teeth asap so I can listen to it bro
They are finally back with new sick album, you probably know it but I'm still happy 😽🔪🔪
Saw them play at chain reaction with Spite, found them and UnityTX on the same night so damn good
I was supposed to see Dealer 5 days before covid shut everything down
Then they broke up
God I want to see them
you might be able to they can back
@@mosiacmaniacswarm dawg no band is gonna wanna tour with an accused rapist and abuser
I hope they come back. Their music was amazing
Love Dealer.
I didn't even know shrine came back 😂
lol they tried making a comeback but they had to turn off their comments section on all their songs and they got dislike bombed.
Well here's the real question are you gonna do a reaction video to their new song Show Me The Body? I have been checking everyday to see if you have done it yet lol
so..Capsize are back..Dealer are back..next we get Lotus Eater back? I loved Dealer and I loved Capsize but withour clearing shit up I don't see any of them having a chance in the scene after they got cancelled for what they did (especially its about the face of the band). Aiden wasn't found guilty in case of the SA against the woman but what about the Mental Abuse against Josh? Did he got cleaned of that as well? As far as we know - no.
lotus eater def isn't coming back, erik bickerstaffe produced and wrote a lot off their stuff and said he'd never work with phil collins again
Wait what was the drama and allegations with this band?
Heavensgate released their EP weeks ago and it slams absolute everything 😎👌🏻
It’s the same with shrine of malice though. They’ve made a comeback with the same vocalist and nobody even gives a shit 😂
What's next? Lotus Eater pops back up again? 😬
Seth is a sick ass gitarist
I've never heard the term pisscore before, I'm assuming alpha wolf and knocked loose?
It’s pissedcore not pisscore 😅 as in pissed off
@@-Jake- omg the UA-cam subtitles did me wrong hahahaha
You assume correct
If you wanna go further back, Sworn In's "Start/End" and "The Death Card" was essentially the blueprint of "pisscore". (Fuck I'm old...lol)
wtf happened? Also what with shrine? first time hearing about it
Shrine of malice?
Well there was a vid of him doing shit with a girl while both were intoxicated. She used it as publicity and claime to be assaulted (lie) they were BOTH doing it. She posted it on her Onyfans which was red flag number 2.
I love shrine. Greg is innocent
@@WHOREHAMMER_OFFICIAL got it, thanks for clearing that up. yeah if its on her onlyfans, then yeah you lose credibility. Thanks for the info.
@@skullprophet9902 ofc anytime
1:24 POST WHAT
Bruh this seems like another As I Lay Dying situation in the making
People still listen to Johnny Craig and that guy cant stop fucking up.
Well I’m still here for some dealer
The hate you try to hide.
This better be hevvy asf
So can Colton Head come back now too? 🤣
All these allegations but very little proof. I have no idea who those band even is but when people get "canceled," because he said she said we all loose. Inoccent until PROVEN guilty. Maybe he is a pos, idk. But there're plenty who aren't who still got blasted.
the whole band left because he was a horrible piece of shit, regardless of the allegations. I think that speaks for itself that they were probably true.0
FUCK I LOVED DEALER. I might die if this is really a comeback
they are coming back bro
They posted a new single in Spotify today
Another day, another cancelled metal vocalist 😃
if the vocalist are not cancelled then it's not a metalcore band🤠
Also . He was proven innocent in court . Chick made it all up .
He assault two girls mate. His dads a cop, that’s why he keeps getting away with it lol
@@mitchellrawlings9901 Good idea. Let's tear down the justice courts and blindly believe woman. Nothing simp to look around here
@@tze.maurini yeah. Alpha wolf kicked him out for being a manipulative dickhead, dealers line up changes twice for the same reason and three girls have accused him of sexual assault. Also dad is a cop man, so yeah. You do you boo
IT'S ALL THE SAME VOCALIST HAHAHA
DEALER clears Josh bands combined
After listening to the new Dealer I can confidently say this
Dealer is now Dababy of Metalcore
Tons a hate on them with zero evolution to their sound
I'm honestly fking excited
I don’t get how people didn’t like shrine coming back, I mean, check the comment section, plus the whole allegation shit is getting annoying, happened to CJ and guess what it was bs, happens to keep on happening to more and more vocalists and nobody sees a pattern?
Maurice was the Bassist or Dealer. I worked with him, and was around when all of the original stuff went down. He’s a great dude, hope that if they do come back, it’s without Aiden and it’s successful
aidan is still the vocalist, there's just a new lineup
He was proven innocent in court . An other woman making shit up . Research abit before saying shit
@@2spook41 If you read my comment I said I was there when all of the original stuff came out. I.e. The Allegations. I didn’t care enough to follow the investigation. On top of that, my reason for saying without Aiden is because there will be unavoidable backlash, which 4-5 other people who are talented musicians do not deserve. I never once said I think he did it, you’ve merely assumed my stance. Maybe if you asked why I would prefer they came back without Aiden, or as you eloquently put it “research abit (a bit, by the way) before saying shit” you’d have a better understanding.
im sad aiden is staying the vocalist because dude has a history of being an asshole.
@@Masterbullet90 So you were there in the Alpha wolf days? because that's when the allegations came out Alpha wolf used that as an excuse so get rid of him instead of sticking by him even though he wrote most of the first album. Remember he had all charges dropped on him after the woman started changing her story so much after he pleaded not guilty. Dealer IS Aiden so the backlash doesn't matter.
Being canceled isn’t a thing. It’s called the consequences of someone’s actions lol
You dumb af if you just believe that lol
@@thyweebhub This says all I need to know about you lmao. Do you mean to tell me Johnny Craig is a good person who just got cancelled? Be serious.
@@CrypticlyEncrypted I don’t need to even look at your response to know it’s retarded. Just learn to be smart kiddo
What makes you think that ?lol
People get canceled every day for speaking the truth against the mainstream. The jab being one of them. Your comment is illogical.
What did he get cancelled for
He was the vocalist for Alpha Wolf from like 2016-2018 but got kicked out due to SA allegations. He then started Dealer with Josh Ang and then more allegations came out plus Josh accused him of being manipulative and abusive behaviour.
why did they cancel him?
He raped someone. You can find the police report somewhere online, it's fucking horrible.
SA allegations which seem to have been disproven in court so he’s not guilty of them but he also abused and bullied his band mate Josh Ang who basically wrote all of Soul burn and some of Saint wind his abuse and bullying allegations haven’t been disproven or addressed
I'll be honest, I saw the post about Greg returning to Shrine and immediately unfollowed them. Not at all surprised they got a ton of hate for that.
As a woman, if Aiden hit a woman, there is no excuse. Buuuuut, I love this band. The new song is just what I wanted.
They were false allegations those are pretty old now I think lol what happened last time was that he was a big prick to the bass player and the band got sick of dealing with him being a prick so they left
Those were only false allegations
Dealer's new track is heavy!
Dealer IS indeed back
I'm already seeing a lot of people angry about this possible news about Dealer, specifically about Aiden. I was willing to give these guys a chance despite what I heard about Aiden and Alpha Wolf. Now hearing about what's been going on with past band members and Aiden with Dealer, I'm not interested.
I support Aussie rock and metal music as an Aussie myself but I don't think I can support Dealer with Aiden still onboard.
I feel it'll be pretty short-lived if aiden is still with them.
I hope their prices are lower than market value
Capsize is doing the same thing and they get a lot of hate
I honestly really hate it when talented bands have these canceled moments. I'm hoping they come back and things go well and ppl learn to just shut up and listen to music.
Wasn’t he just cancelled for being a dick in general? Sounded more like the drama within emmure than actually being cancelled if I remember right
Frankie never had allegations that were so severe though. Aiden had a bunch of legal baggage that left a permanent mark on his reputation. Even if he is innocent, people from the metal scene aren't gonna look kindly on him.
@@StevenZissimos normies shouldn't be listened to, they have no rational brains, it's legit purposeless. 😂
Smear campaigns.are toxic as shit. Just move on with your life and don't listen to them
99.9% of the time the problem is multifactor and TWO PEOPLE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROBLEMS.
@@StevenZissimos being innocent, and being treated like he is guilty is a shitty thing to do. The word for that is slander. That chick, and the guys in Alpha Wolf can't keep his name out of their mouths, even now with the Oceano tour. The scene is a fucking joke.
Despite everything I still feel like Dealer is peak pissedcore. No other band gets my blood pumping like Dealer does.
Pretty excited to see things stirring up for them, and really hoping Aiden can disprove the allegations.
I don’t see Aiden disproving the allegations. I think the best thing for Dealer would be to bring back the original lineup but with a new vocalist. Unfortunately, I think Aiden has the legal rights to Dealer so I don’t see that happening. And who knows if the band would be as good with another vocalist but I think it would yield the best possible results for the band in their situation.
@@J.Shambles You're right, honestly. I just really miss the energy they brought to the table. As one local blogger said "only a true villain can write and deliver shit like this".
@@KASTAWORON I miss them too. I don’t think they’ll ever be able to match the energy of their first EP. But regardless, seeing Dealer return in any type of way is exciting.
@@J.Shambles Amen, brother.
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The charges were dropped I suppose? Don’t quote me on that? Why is this all a question?
New song is awesome but hopefully Aiden is less of a tool now
I still slam to dealer. I wish the dynamic wasn't what it was and they were able to sort out Aidan because the Dealer Sound was absolutely fantastic and I need more like this in my life
About the Shrine of Malice thing, the vocalist's ex came out and said the vocalist r*ped her and recorded it. Well, the video she said he recorded, she ended up posting to OnlyFans and PH, then sent him texts apologizing for making the situation up. Dude was falsely accused and it was proven, thats why he's back with the band. But a lot of people still call him a monster which is extremely messed up and the band will never be the same because of the false accusation.
i would love for shrine to come back but i dont really like obyrith that much
Shrine already are back
@@NUKE_DUKEM777 but cancelled
Super bummer about the stuff around the vocalist….. but idgaf that shit slaps too hard
Pirate that shit if it’s good, and don’t go to shows.
Exactly
Am I the only one that actually liked that new Shrine Of Malice single
Fr that shit slapped
@@caliamr4123 Fr
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Its actually just a song from their album that they didn't get to release because of the shit with Greg. The album was leaked months before the release date and I've had it for years. It is good, but it isn't Sheol good which made it easier to deal with the band ending
@@XxXfaulknerXxX stars of orion breakdown is one of the coolest things ive heard
Idgaf give me more dealer and I got my wish today 💀💀💀
Seems like the new Dealer song is doing very, very well.