A 'Complete' Distant Worlds 2 Campaign Summarised - Is This The Dream 4X Game?
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- I played the 4X Stellaris-like, Distant Worlds 2! The main feature is that many of the background organisational tasks can be automated, and in fact are automated by default. This leaves the player to focus on what they want to control. However, there are some gaps in the theory that cause issues as our campaign to dominate the galaxy goes along. Check out this complete commentary of 'all' of the campaign!
Disclaimer: game received for free.
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"I'm constantly losing money, but the economy seems fine" - sounds like an accurate simulation of government
Debt go brrr
A small debt is not a problem in real economics as long as the economic growth is larger than it.
@@tiagodagostini As long as you can outpace the interest you can keep collecting debt forever!
@@Razzlion Can and should are a bit different. If your interest is at 3% and you are growing 4% it is not great since someone not making debt and growing 3% is effectively improving more. When you get debt to help with somethign that will on the long run keep the growth it is ok, if you make a huge debt for some imediate gain that has no long term return, you will drown yourself.
@@tiagodagostini If your interest rate is under the inflation rate, you pay back less actual real value than you borrowed in the first place. Its literally free money.
In the military tab you have offensive missions. If you assign one of those through that menu, your fleet will plan the logistics of that assault - refuel etc and arrive at the location as a unified force. All the immediate manual controls on the map are design ed as emergency controls of a singular ship and not really for large groups.
Waahh that sounds ideal, never noticed such options
I'm coming from DW1 and the "losing money but money is still goin up" thing is still there. Income is really only your direct taxes because that is the only thing that is stable. Everything else is periodic and somewhat unpredictable. So here's how the economy works there:
1)Each colony produces money based off population and development level. This goes to the private sector
2)Taxes take a percentage of that money and move it to the state account. If taxes are too high you can cripple your private economy and cause major problems. Also, lower taxes increases growth. The optimal tax rate for overall income is thus ... 0% if you can make enough money through other means.
3)Trade: You can sell resources to other empires. Their private sector pays you a bit of money for resources when needed if you have a trade agreement.
4)Shipyards: Any time a private sector ship is built or upgraded at one of your spaceports, they pay you for the service.
5)Diplomacy: If you know what you're doing selling stuff to the AI (other than automatic resource trade) is very lucrative. I mean things like, selling your "involvement" in a war for millions of credits and/or tech.
Even when you aren't enjoying the game, you make it seem so appealing. I otherwise have a high tolerance for advertising, but offyd is my kryptonite.
Thankfully steam reviews broke the spell
It's super cheap and fast to get a non aggression pack with the pirates. Just give them money monthly. Once you have a large enough money say a gift of 37k. They'll most likely accept a non aggression agreement. Also watch their friendly meter. it should be like -2 or -4. They would usually accept after you give them gift of 37k, it goes up to like 12.
Fish people having to fight a "smegma" monster seems oddly appropriate.
holy shit this comment fucking buckled me.
Man, watching someone's first time with pirates never gets old.
Tip: Get level 3 on weapons, and defenses before taking on pirates. Unless you have certain weapon advantages *wink wink*.
Imagine bothering fighting the pirates. Pay tribute till -2 then give a 37500 gift. instant nap. then use the pirate factions to bribe other pirate factions into naps, whilst also using them to harass your ai rivals while occasionally buying tech from your pirate comrades.
Government outsourcing, the future we didn't know we needed.
Thats right the type of review i was watching for. Many thanks!
You can see the bonus income from the private sector when you scroll down in the finance window. Effectively they buy ships from you which you build in your space ports. The demand for that depends on what you do. If you find resources, then they'll start to buy mining ships to gather those resources (not as efficient as a station ofc). If you build mining stations or other colonies or spaceports then they'll start to buy transport ships, in order to transport the goods from a to b, because the resources are decentralized and do not sit in a global monopoly bank account. In DW1 the bonus income was also displayed on the main screen. I'm honestly not sure why they got rid of that.
Upgrading the ancient starport of this species is a bad idea btw, as you'll not have a proper upgrade for it for quite some time. You can also aggressively annex independent planets with troop transports. Messages will also ping it on the galaxy map, no need to click on show me when you're zoomed out.
Honestly, I think DW:U is still the best 4X space game. DW2 is just not ready and should've been an early access release at best (tag it as that if you want to protest).
Is this the guy from kings and generals ???
That's exactly what I was thinking. Sounds exactly like their narrator. We need him to say "Cyrus the Great" to be sure.
You can assign your researchers onto different stations to make it go faster. You can also assign ambassadors too.
Thanks for the upload!
Haven't watched it yet. But it's cool to see you actually looked into this. Thanks:)
I just sneak peaked into this video. Just in case you intend to come back to this game some day. The game has gone through several patches since release and is a lot more playable. You can really turn automation off now, where you don't want it and customize it in more detail where you need it.
It's still a complex game though. And most likely not for casual players.
how you all keep playing and finding or making your own universes is amazing, just waiting for the video episodic reveal from some intrepid soul
not sure if you have tried Aurora 4x, but if you dont mind almost non existant graphics but is extreamly complex and deep, it could be the game for you, and its free.
I played the first Distant Worlds game and what struck me very early on was that, unlike many other 4X games I've played, the pirate factions aren't just some fringe minority that attacks your fleet or planet every once in a while. They actually fielded technologically advanced ships far superior to that of the player until your civilisation became more powerful and advanced.
Each faction has a set of goals and the first to achieve 70% of those goals wins.
My take from playing for about a week now is it works like a real supply/demand economy, capitalism. Even NPCs like money so lowering your taxes will give them more money to buy more ships from your space stations. Your flow is is the deficit and the reserve is the debt or surplus depending where your economy is at.
The games frame rate has improved massively in the last 10 months. I can now play large galaxy, and highest number of stars and 9 opposition factions and the game lays - reasonably - smoothly from start to finish.
IMO it is HUGELY better than Stellaris that abstracts too much for me. I have 1,400 hours in Stellaris and sort of love/hate that game. Love it because it's slick, it feels "space opera" like. but hate it because so very much of the stuff I want to control - is out of my control
"I would NEVER design a ship like that. I would NEVER have a formation like that" Who the hell would.
But Stellaris deals with the META. It's 4X grand strategy.
DW and DW2 are 4X "Nuts and bolts"
And when anything META is abstracted to the point I think "Who the hell would design a ship/formation/strategy like that - of COURSE it's going to fail"
I return to DW or DW 2 where I can decide, right down to every last capability of even the smallest craft - how it works. And I breathe a sigh of relief.
Stellaris has superb AI at the META - grand scale. And absolute IDIOT AI at the nuts and bolts micro scale and no option for you, as the player - to correct it.
Because watching idiot Stellaris AI do idiot things at the tactics level - that I would never do - and have no say in it. Is just frustrating beyond belief..
I'll always prefer the control down to the nuts and bolts level hat DW2 offers over the grand strategy macro wheeler/dealer level of Stellaris.
It's good that both games exist. But while DW and DW2 exist. Stellaris is not for me.
I played the first one and enjoyed, so I'm excited to see how this one is.
And by play, I mean I set everything but diplomacy and research to automated and just watched.
Wait a tick, is this the Kings and Generals guy?
Yes!
@@OffyDGG holy shit ! I just commented the same thing, dude your awesome I’ve been watching kings and generals for years. Seriously if I knew you had a channel I would’ve subbed years ago, it took a random recommend for me to find this and recognize the voice.
Oh my god I know that VOICE lmao !!
I'm all in for automation, and it seems like DW2 gives the feeling of running an inter-stellar empire much better than Stellaris. The basic visual presentation though, ugh. I'm not after shiny effects and what have you, but I do enjoy a good color palette and decent fonts, DW2 looks stuck in 2000s. Hope it gets a great modding support, like "provide the source, open up the dll" level of earlier Civs, I can see myself pouring a lot of time in DW2 then.
They could indeed use a better font engine and clean up a bit the interface corners (literally)
other than make windows movable there is not so much more you can do with the UI as it needs to present somehow an incredible amount of information, fonts ? sounds like cherrypicking and the color palette and the vibe of DW2 feels more: plausible -adult-mature-serious or whatever you wanna call it - than Stellaris console type of streamlined (dumbed down) gameplay mechanics and candy colors UI presentation with buttons as big as mobile keypad for mentally challenged and the general color palette of Stellaris couldnt be farer away from real space. DW2 does a lot better job with that.
@@chris99103 Fonts is not cherry picking at all. The eye stress level on long sessions is directly linked to usage of good fonts. That is specially critical for people over 40 .
@@tiagodagostini lol, you telling me ? I 50+ and of course got already glassses to adjust presbyopia but there is other things like getting bigger monitor (like >32) and one can change the UI scale ingame so fonts are a question of preference here, hence cherrypicking as it not taking away anything from the game
@@chris99103 There are things like Not everyone lives in USA where a 32 inch monitor is affordable. I am software engineer with 25 years experience and a 32 Inch monitor costs here 3 months of my paycheck (these things are NOT made in every country and international shipping of fragile stuff is absurdly expensive).
It takes on other hand 5 MINUTES to change the font on a software. Not usign good fonts is just LAZY and bad professionalism!
On the galaxy map, there is a solar system panel at the bottom, you can click on the planet that has a flag.
You can assign the automate military if you want to capture when enemy more tech. Military ships can automate command per fleet from hunting pirates, invading, defense, raiding etc to how many ships there are per order (hunting pirate to invading)
You can disable the graphics of civilian ships
I absolutely love Stellaris but I completely agree that the micromanaging element of it can be an absolute pain in the arse. What's sad is in the more original builds of the game it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it what it is today. Before LeGuinn, if you wanted your empire to auto maintain itself.... It just would. Now autoing your empire only does 1/3 or up to 50% of the work. I really wish they'd go back on that particular aspect of the game.
I admire your bravery of letting the Stellaris ai touch ANYTHING. It feels like every iteration past 1.8 just got worse and worse alongside the performance of the game
@@messiha666 I play on Series X now. Performance with automation and manual management is basically the same tbh. Issue I have mostly is why they've stopped the AI properly constructing buildings and districts. Amount of times I come across world's barely fleshed out cus the AI noped out for whatever reason.
@@ThatEnglishGent I could go on and list the issues I've had with the AI but I doubt I'd mention anything that hasn't been said by thousands of others already. It's just tiring at this point; coming back to skim-read the version logs before hearing that performance got worse somehow. Again.
@@messiha666 For me actual performance, least on console, only ever seems to improve. I imagine it's a different story on PC as that is where the majority of the playerbase is.
finally, edited distant worlds content!
At least I can watch this. I cant even get this game to run on my new laptop.
Yo you should check out Interstellar Transport when you get the chance. It’s kinda like that train game you just played on TIC, and a mix of 4x. You play as a transport company but in space it’s pretty fun and I’m curious what your thoughts are on it as I enjoy your ui and game design critiques.
The Dong Duo expand into Space Exploration, accidentally take over Galaxy.
It’s a shame that you couldn’t finish this, but those technical issues really made the game unplayable. ☹️
most of it seems solved by now
You gotta wonder why these 4X game devs keep designing games that can't even run to its intended conclusion.
Lol
maybe they know that most people will not games to its conclusion. same deal for many other grand strategy games. for example, EU4 players will rarely play past 1600 (it starts in 1444 and ends in 1820)
Some of the technical issues are solved by now and just like with the first Distant Worlds the devs are in for the long haul. It will get expansions and a trainload of updates and improvements. There is no major changes needed to the core so it wont be a problem and many of your shortcomings and annoyances during this game sessions are due to you not learn the proper controls....there is something to help with that...RTFM, lol
Its a shame this game is still broken, I'd so love to play it. Dw:u was so good.
Wonder if you've ever tried Starsector?
It's like a space Mount and Blade, and it's pretty fun.
Heard it recommended a load, I probably actually own it somewhere, planning to check it out "sometime"
@@OffyDGG hope you enjoy!
If you're ever in a hankering for a Romance of the Three Kingdoms 4x tactics game, you can always try dynasty tactics, or ROTK 11. I think both might suit your abridged style.
Cheers m8
Isn't it still a work in progress?
So to answer the money question the income next to your reserve is just the tax income the main bulk of your money comes from the private economy who pays you to build and retro fit their ships..
The ships mystical on the otherside of the galaxy is a known bug.
Fuel is a big thing if ships run out of fuel theyll stop firing.
A big part of research is paying to crash research which cuts the time in half.
There are zoom level hotkeys
The most elaborate grand strategy cookie clicker game to date.
Well that was fun. I still think the game has a lot of potential even if Its kinda a mess right now. Hopefully it will be improved by the developer or modders.
Yep by the time I get a steam deck it should be fantastic
Wow, what are your cpu and graphics cards specs. You game is running really well in mid-late game. My Ryzen 5 1600 is coughing starting mid game.
Just pay the pirates, they will gradually be converted into allies, and once you have say a non aggression pact, your no longer paying them. That tab bottom right hand corner allows you to get the fleet into a tight formation. Keeping them together.
The Quality of the planet has a massive impact on the cost of maintaining a planet, terraforming help's but it's best just to coloize the high quality planet's the other's you can colonize gradually over time, using terraforming to increase quality. If you just colonize everything you will go bust.
I liked the video, but have come to another conclusion. They're cranking out updates every other day. I have run into bugs and crashes, but less and less so as I've been playing. I love it.
I'm curious if they get this up to snuff. I see one major update since this playthrough that sounds like they've addressed a lot of this, but also it seems like it may need another major update or 3 to get polished properly.
Need Point Defence / Fighters to really be effective against fighters
Hey Devin, is there somewhere where we could watch the whole recordings of this? I know abridged is your style, and i love you for it, but i wouldn't mind watching you more 😊
I only commentate the edited down footage and delete the rest, so nothing else unfortuantely. I used to do longer and more detailed commentaries, but I think I prefer to keep things short these days.
Are you sure there wasn't some kind of zoom toggle key? It was around in homeworld 20+ years ago
There actually was, didn't discover it until later on, pressing insert and delete jumps the camera up to the high levels
A lot of patches have come out since this video, you should check the game out again.
This is true, some dlc too, I reinstalled it recently but still haven't played again
This game started good but a few years in the campaign my laptop is on its knees... What are the specs of the computer you ran on ?
Something similar happened to me. I am using a pretty decent machine, (GTX 1660, 16gb ram, 8 core cpu), and the lag eventually prevented me from finishing the campaign. I thought it might have been improved by now, but perhaps a laptop isn't enough if it's still so demanding, that's a shame.
is it better than the first?
i can't paly this game it's so GPU intensive my CPU was so HOT.
Now Stellaris is starting to allow automation in 3.4.4 This game has some really nice features but I'll wait for the sale.
Wait, really?
@@chintoki There are always great sales on Steam, I got a crap load of games by being patient and waiting for their sales. Just bought Empire:Total War for 6 bucks.
@@clausbohm9807 I already own Stellaris but haven't played in years. I wish it had automation like Distant Worlds.
I want to like this game and I do but I get so bored of it vs other X4s, other X4s I feel in control this game makes me feel like I’m just watching
Galactic Civilization 2 its better in my opinion
Installed that the other day in my search for more 4x things to try!
@@OffyDGG Its a good game, a little rough for the eyes but good gameplay, i would love to see a video on it, the good, the bad and the ugly
So...it's awesome when you don't do anything and sucks when you control stuff...I wonder if it's even better if you don't install it. Great video though.
You sound so much like Kings and Generals what
Also, this is the best Intro to the game I've found yet. Well done!
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You have trouble playing this game because you have not played the original distant worlds 1
it's like watching a 5 year old driving a ferrari and complaining that the car sucks
the main feature of this game is the private sector, separate economy....
Sure, I used that a lot, I thought it was very good
I have to admit I find the game interesting but a bit intimidating.
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The real "advantage" of Stellaris over DW2 is that stellaris has basically infinite different civilizations to play with, the rest is more interesting in DW2.
Yeah I'm not sure why the left out custom empires from DW1.
Except not really, every Stellaris civilization plays mostly the same with minor flavor text differences.
infinite empires of mostly generic and same general gameplay.
I never watched any of your stellaris videos because I hate that game. This doesn't seem better, from your presentation it seems maybe less frustrating but more boring.
Anyway I largely agree with your points and don't have much to add
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