The Immortals
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2016
- The National Baseball Hall of Fame elected its first five players in 1936. The museum officially opened its doors on June 12, 1939, in Cooperstown, New York. Joseph Kennedy, a Columbus Indiana postal clerk, set out to collect signatures from all the living player members of the Hall of Fame in 1938, on a first day cover, commemorating the 100th anniversary of the game of baseball. Those 11 immortals included, Connie Mack, Cy Young, Ty Cobb, Larry Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Honus Wagner, Walter Johnson, Eddie Collins, George Sisler, Grover Cleveland Alexander and The Sultan of Swat, Mr. Babe Ruth. Joseph Kennedy reached out to these players as he thought it would make a great souvenir for his then, 8 1/2 pound, 2 week old, grandson, Joe Griffin. Although Joseph Kennedy finished collecting all the signatures by 1940, Joe Griffin was unaware that he had them until 2009. What a great story about early TTM (Through The Mail) autograph collecting, and a grandfather's love for his grandson.
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What amazes me is the depth of honesty of the people in those days. He sent the man in the business the cover with 9 signatures on it. The man knew the value of the item and he put it in the safe to protect it till Grover Cleveland came and would sign it and then he sent it back. HOW HONEST this man was with a complete stranger. Today they would just tell the guy it got lost in the mail and they never got. Then they would cash it in for themselves. But not back then! We are missing that in today's world where everything is about I, ME, MINE, AND THE MONEY.
So true. Times were sure different. There was some integrity during those times that is lost on many now.
Those were days when people did not lock their front doors.
My grandfathers were the two most honest men I have ever met. It all goes down hill after that lol
Wonderful story. I don't know if this could happen today, for many reasons.
Wonderful......Thank You.
I love stories like this...
Thank you for sharing your memories, Sir.
I can only imagine what those signatures would be appraised for. both singularly and collectively. WOW!!!
I know. The letter and collection together is a pretty amazing piece of history with an epic price tag.
Holy smokes what a tale, thank you for sharing this
Mattias Yes. It is a pretty amazing story. Glad you enjoyed the video. Really need to get rolling on more of these. Thanks!
This is the coolest thing I've seen in years. What a great story!
Peter Doll It was a really amazing story to hear and share. What an incredible piece of history.
Thats a nice photograph...I think a baseball field at Norte Dame... were built for their son and the few fans we had. i surely hope you enjoyed watching my pedigree fine fellows are they not???
I've been to Cooperstown, and my daughter and I saw it together. Nice memories!
I grew up in Philly in the 50's and 60's. My father's father was the telegraph key operator at Shibe Park, later called Connie Mack Stadium. Since my dad (b. 1918) got to watch Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, Foxx, Simmons, Grove , Cochrane and more, I grew up on stories from the horse's mouth. And his dad told him stories of the 1900-1924 Athletics and Phillies, which he passed on to me. Dad had an autographed baseball signed by the entire 1931 World Champion Athletics, with all signatures in blue except for Mack, the manager, whose signature was in red. That ball was stolen from him around 1943, while he was fighting Nazis and Rommel in Africa and Italy. As a kid, Strat-O-Matic brought it to me by being able to play and manage the Hall Of Fame players featured in this film. BTW, it was great to see George Sisler on film finally. Nobody talks about this great player any more. He was like Don Mattingly but with a base-stealer's speed. Thanks so much for getting this treasure and giving it to us!
What a story. So sad that ball was stolen. Would be a great family piece. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@graphnatic4648 Very much, thanks. I watched Bert Sugar's piece, and he got all kinds of stuff wrong. He has lost his edge mentally. He mentioned that Cobb hit 3 HR in a game in 1925 (just to shut the reporters up), but neglected that Cobb hit 2 more HR the next day. No other hitter has ever hit more than 5 HR in 2 consecutive games. Not Ruth, Bonds, McGwire, Mays, Sosa. Nobody! Cobb and Ruth still stand as the 2 greatest hitters (and all around players) ever, but Hornsby gets overlooked. He belongs there because he was the only RH hitter to hit such a high career BA (.358). No accident that the rest of the guys over .340 career were left handed hitters who faced mostly RH pitchers.
I believe Hornsby AVERAGED, let me repeat that, AVERAGED 402 between 1921 -1925. My grandfather was the 1st to share that with me. I recall seeing Hornsby' s grave not long after he passed in 1963.
@@garyfaught3769 Dadold me that if not for Ruth, Hornsby would be the name of Baseball in the 1920's. He was also a power hitter, unlike the others (except Williams) who were not HR hitters. Also, he was a RH hitter, facing mostly RH pitching. The other top BA guys in the HOF were LH hitters, to their advantage!
It's worth noting that Hornsby's '26 Cardinals DEFEATED Ruth's mighty Yanks in the sries that year. And your right, he did hit with power, amassing over 300 career HRs, including 42 one season. My grandfather ( Pop) once told me Hornsby was almost fanatical about his hitting, to the point he would NOT go to a movie or read a newspaper for fear of hurting his batting eye. Now that's dedication.
Went to the HOF for Mickey & Whitey's induction. Met Satchel Paige, Warren Spahn, Phil Rizzuto and others outside the Otesaga Hotel. It was like a real life Field of Dreams... BEFORE the movie came out!
If you haven't been...go!
That is awesome. Induction weekend is on my list for sure!
I've been to 3 HOF Induction Weekends (1989, 1994 & 2001) & echo your directive ~ GO!
OMGOODNESS!! What a great story about a great time in baseball & our USA!! Try & do that today w/some of these bums for baseball players!! Beautiful Grandfather, but we’ve lost our way.
The players now are way better than the players back then
What a nice story. Super grandfather, too.
Marston Davis Glad you enjoyed the story. Need to tell more of these types of stories.
Similar to Lawrence Ritter’s “The Glory of their Times.” Ritter and his son went to interview on reel to reel audio tape, many of these same old time great baseball players. Ritter, then a finance professor at NYU, was divorced. To keep up relations with his son, the went together to visit the old timers in the summer, starting in the early 1960’s. During the rest of the year, father and son corresponded by mail and telephone to find old timers and arrange the interviews.
The son operated the tape recorder while Ritter conducted the interviews. Many of the old timers expressed their surprise: they thought their baseball exploits had been forgotten.
I recommend the book, but the movie of the same name was disowned by Ritter.
The audiobook is my favorite way to consume it, as it's the actual interview audio with those players.
Living history! Can you imagine dropping a card in the mail with all those signatures and hoping it came back!?! 😬
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Pete Rose needs to be in the Hall of Fame.
Honus thoroughly enjoyed the old-timers' game which has been a staple of the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies ever since (his team won, I believe). The Dutchman could always be found around town in his beloved Carnegie, Pennsylvania, or in the dugout, helping out his beloved Bucs. His statue, moved several times since it was dedicated (Honus was still living) now stands outside PNC Park. Where else?
My wife surprised me one year for Xmas by getting me the picture depicted in the thumbnail that has the class sitting down. Has a cool plaque under it with their names. Been hanging on my wall ever since. People that see it dont usually know who they ALL are....but they sure as shit know who the Babe is.
Very cool
Babe Ruth was the youngest of the original Hall of Fame inductees. He had retired only the previous season, 1935. Which gives you an idea of his stature at the time, which was at the top.
"The Babe" is the greatest baseball player of all time.
@@davidwhite3181 His spirit is at the heart of all baseball. Kinda like Elvis for rockn roll and the Beatles for the more modern rockn roll.
His stranglehold on the record books was epic. He didn't just break records, he obliterated them.
Nice to see the good penmanship the guys had back then, especially Babe Ruth. 🙂
We all have that player that made us a lifelong fan as a kid. Mine is Ken Griffey Jr. the first time I was at the kingdome and saw Griffey play I was hooked for life.
A great basebal story. I enjoyed visting the Baseball Hall of Famein Cooperstown when I was a kid in the 1960s. Anyone visting St. Louis would enjoy the much smaller but impressive Cardinals baseball hall of fame museum in Ballpark Village across from Bisch stadium. Although Grover Cleveland Alexander came to the Cardinals late in his career he is a legend in St. Louis from ths 1926 world series performance with the Yankees. George Sisler has a statute among hall of fame Cardinals outisde the stadium even though he was a St. Louis Brown of the American League.
Baseball is a funny game. One day playing golf at San Clamente Muni, I was playing as a single. This was in the 80's, an old boy came to the first tee to join me. He looked 90. 3 clubs. I'm like ok. I am only going to play 6 he said. We chatted, he told me he played with the Detroit Tigers back in the day. Did you know Ty Cobb? Yes, he3 said, he was as mean as they say. We crossed the street a 6th hole and he his waiting daughter, he was playing 9. We talked old time baseball and the old boy had a ball telling stories of all the greats he played with. he was 88 years old, sadly I forgot his name. But never the round. that had to be in 87. My best talk with a baseball player ever.
That's a great story!
What you have is really amazing and something truly special. Thank you for sharing.
this personal story is epic
even in 2020
Yeah, I was excited to help tell this story.
Can we talk about how ty cobb made his small signature to fit on the second line. Omg i love it
When you monetize memories and nostalgia - you devalue it.
That was beyond awesome.
Glad you enjoyed it. Pretty amazing story.
Cooperstown is great. You just drive up to the Hall, park, and go in. Cy's large portrait hangs in majesty on the right. Of course, it's busier on some days than others, like during induction ceremonies. If you're an AAA member, you get a discount, as I remember. It's a nice drive through upstate New York to get there.
Cooperstown, NY was founded by the family of James Fennimore Cooper who wrote The Leatherstocking Talesa
and created The Hawkeye and Chingachgook characters.
@@jerrybrownell3633 Loyal, fearless Uncas--the last of the Mohicans.
steelers6titles I cant wait to go sometime.
It's stories like this one that make me love baseball the way that I do. No other sport pulls on the heartstrings historically the way that baseball does.I sure would love to know what the appraisal value would be on those autographs and letters.
John Koziol Yeah, the value on the letters and everything is crazy. Glad you enjoyed the story.
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College football is a close 2nd.
Priceless
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Amazing story!!! Thank you for sharing a piece of history...
Jackie Chapman Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice
Ty Cobb Thanks!
Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful! Thank you.
You are left totally speechless after watching something like this ... Can a value even be put on such a thing ? .. The entire story of how his grandfather did this and with those signatures .. It makes it priceless if you ask me ! .. lol
Amazing!!
A fantastic story and gesture
I love this this made my day thanks so much
wonglee2424 Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks
One of the best stories stories EVER. And, One of the best sports collectibles ever attained.
Found out about tris speaker… like idk how I’ve went my whole life not knowing this guy… then went down a baseball rabbit hole and got here to one great ass story 🙏 thx for sharin
What did you find out about Tris Speaker........???
Wow! Amazing!! Priceless!!
Oh, I enjoyed this! I see that I commented on this a year ago, and that it's been out six years. I read, "The Glory of Their Times," for the first time decades ago in a long ago off-season. It was a revelation for me. I know the Dead Ball Era ended about the time Ruth joined the Yankees - and I certainly wouldn't want to see the game revert to that type of play - but I just hold a special place for the hard-nosed players who competed in those times. I regret that those days weren't integrated - but it was a different time.
So, again, I thank you for this offering. I was surprised to hear the gentleman use the term, "snail mail," because that was all we knew back then - yet that also indicates how times have changed. Thank you.
Awesome!
Ty Cobb Thanks
Amazing gift. Amazing.
Cry Young screwed Cobb on the autos. Ty probably noticed there were only enough lines for each guy to have one and Young’s auto is fantastic but it takes up basically two lines.
Pretty funny that rather then writing over amCy Young’s auto he squeezed his little auto into that second line without disturbing the first auto.
I think he did it to set the standard. Instead of letting the guys sign however they wanted like on a baseball hes was like no we each get 1 line nice and orderly unlike cy young and they did lmao. 0 discussion needed everyone understood the assignment
Wonderful story. I am in awe of that piece of memorabilia. Truthfully, you need to get that appraised and get insurance on it. Why not try antiques road show? This would be a perfect place to get it appraised realistically. I doubt you’ll ever part with it, but what a wonderful thing to pass down through the generations!
Incredible. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice video. I actually gave my father that picture of the 11 Immortals. He didn't want it so I took it back and said I'd return it. I actually didn't but, instead, kept it. Incidentally, one of my favorite places to go is the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. I live 65 miles from there and visit about 4-5 times a year. The HOF is one of the places I love taking people. If you have never gone, I would highly recommend going at least once or twice in your life if it at possible
Christopher Conley Thanks. Making it to the HOF is for sure on my to-do list.
What an ungrateful person. That would be the last time I ever gave anything to him.
What a treasure.
Very cool. Nice they signed. How times have changed!
Kevin W So true. And the beauty of the actual signature has changed so much as well.
@@graphnatic4648: Looking at these elegant signatures is cause for profound regret that cursive writing is being phased out of school curricula, and that almost no one under 40 has ever seen, much less used, a fountain pen.
Excellent video. Great baseball history captured in a story everyone will appreciate.
Glad you enjoyed it. When I heard the story I needed to help share it.
It shows you how accessible players were in those days, you could write or find out where they were and they had no problem signing an autograph for you. Good luck writing to a player today and getting a response, if you could even find their address.
Although I was a Tiger's fan. In 1967 I was a young boy and loved baseball. I wrote to Carl Yastrzemski after he won the Triple Crown, and asked for batting tips. Not only did he respond by letter, with his tips, he later sent me a signed post card of himself when he came into Detroit during the 1968 season.
@@stevenmiller8986 I liked the tiger's back then too man. I always pulled for al kaline, one of the greatest all round players of ALLTIME
This was just nothing below "WONDERFUL"!!
"When he called his shot, that's when Babe Ruth went from a hero to a legend."
Absolutely stunning to hear and see
Fascinating!
Glad you enjoyed it. I was excited to help share the story.
what a story! loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
Great video.Very interesting.Legends of the game.The best ever.
Time Traveler Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
You can’t even put a price on these. It’s something no one else has in history
The issue I have today is pitchers are throwers. Back then, they were pitchers. Look at Tommy John, 85 mph fast ball yet he was a great.
Awesome story.Made my week, just subscribed. Thanks for posting
Heard tale about Mr. Musial, from Mickey Mantle. He asked Stan, "What happens if you hit the ball wrong with that tiny bat?"
"Gee, Mick... I don't know!"
Thanks for sharing this with us!
What an amazing story. I hope I don't see him on Pawn Stars trying to sell it to Rick.
TRUMP 2020 I think those letters and cover will be in their family forever.
Oh please not that show
“ I’ll give you $500 bucks, not a penny more. Remember , it’s going to sit around for a year, I have to frame it, Matt it, I run all the risks.. Hopefully in a years time when I sell it for $350,000. You’ll be coming back with more valuable items that I can fleece you on” (Rick) Pawn Stars
Imagine how much this signing of 11 Hall Of Famers are worth?
Like no other time in baseball.
April P. Agreed!
Excellent material well done!
Pumpkintown Primitives Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Mr. Mack, wearing his customary suit. He wore one at games while he was managing, as well.
This video is amazing
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. A great story to share.
Wow what an amazing story
This is amazing. Great story. Subbed to you.
Glad you enjoyed. Yeah, it was a pretty amazing story. I was honored to help tell it.
Excellent history.
This is so neat. Way to go Grandpa.
I would love to have that photo of the HOFers!
It is a great image!
Amazing.
Great story
What a nugget! In spite of the current state of “woke” sports, classic baseball still holds a place in my heart. Thank you, Mr. Kennedy (and especially Grandpa Kennedy) for sharing your priceless memories.
Shoeless Joe should have been there
F.Y.I. if someone says they have Joe's autograph they are full of shit. Joe was illiterate and signed his name with an X. Probably, the most rare and hardest autograph to find, I think he may have learned to read and write later in life though.
Right on, pally! I gave you a GREAT, BIG, HUMONGOUS "thumb's up" for saying shat you did about "Shoeless" Joe Jackson in your comment!!!
The commissioner of baseball felt otherwise. !!!!!!!
@@JENDALL714
I think the best Joe could do is trace his signature...which would've been written by Katy (?), his wife.
The first 10 inductees and literally anyone else to fill the roster with Connie mack in his prime as coach could beat any team ever
mikey Sawchyn Very true!
@Charles McCarron on grass
@Charles McCarron no you only need 9. give me the dead ball era players, the pitchers pitched all 9 innings and the hitters knew how to make contact and not strike out all the time.
@Charles McCarron i agree with everything you just said. After being a lifelong fan that watched every game i could, i no longer can watch a MLB game for the reasons you listed.
Modern day players say 1950's through today have had better modes of travel. Better medical care. Better nutrition. Better salaries. Better equipment. Better grounds keepers. Better hotel accommodations. Etc.
Thanks
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Wow .....💥💥💥👍👍
Notice how the greatest all-time pure hitter, Ty Cobb, is missing from the photo. If I remember correctly, he was delayed and en route to the ceremony.
Subed you nice work!
Mysteries of the Superstition Mountains Thanks!
the former acting governor of New Jersey, RICHARD J CODEY, has this picture SIGNED by every one of these Hall of Famers. Must be worth a mint.
How cool
Ty Cobb had the most 1st.place votes.aug2022.
You could have bought all of Iowa if you sold that.
baberuth1000 haha!
4 of those 11 were part of the Philadelphia A's.
This is way cool. Can I kindly have these precious autographs ? Thank you in advance.
Ty Cobb showed up too late to be in the HOF inaugural-inductee picture.
He showed up five minutes after it was taken.
Thank you for sharing this. Just out of curiosity what was Ty Cobb's answer to the question?
Amazing story. Where are these items now?
They are safely secured with the family.
Man… never even heard of Larry
Poor Guy is 11 Immortals but it’s been taken down to 10 without even making that official
Just happened
Strange about the memorabilia....Up until about 1970 you could buy it for next to nothing.....I talked to a guy who in the late 50s walked into a baseball card shop and bought a dozen of those Mickey Mantle rookie cards for $10. I asked where they were today. He just shook his head
Rumors had it that Cobb was late because he didn't want to be near Landis. Looking at that photo of the original HOFers, I bet Ty would take a do-over on that.
What happened to the 11 autographs?
Steven Carlfeldt All the letters and the signed first day cover are still in their family. Pretty awesome piece of history to continue to pass down through the generations.
Don't take it to the Pawn Stars pawn shop because Rick will have to frame the items and take all of the risk.
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Subed you
David Jones Thanks
It's too bad that Christy Mathewson was never the same after WWI, or he could have been a part of this great story, too.
Babe Ruth got cheered in Chicago. Think about that for a moment.
Wonder it's Value? 1 of a kind
i wonder what that all would be worth