Emotionally mature wouldn’t have said, don’t “embarrass me in front of family”, that’s not the reason you walk or don’t walk down the aisle. Emotionally mature would have said let’s pause wedding so we don’t make a life long commitment that you’re not ready for. Neither one of them are mature and ready for marriage. He has been clearly telling her he’s not ready. She was just ignoring it .
@@2013LPN I understand your point. But we're not in agreement. From where I view it, she asked not to be embarrassed in front of her family BEFORE walking down the aisle. I think she was looking to know what to expect. Let's just end it now B4 we walk down the aisle instead of embarrassing me (her) in front of fam. I don't think that was an immature request. But to each his or her own.
She was desperate, period. It baffles me how desperate a lot of women are to get married, not caring if the man they want to marry actually like them. It’s embarrassing! Being married to a man is not a privilege unless he is a unicorn.
Him saying “I’m just afraid to get married”, multiple times would have been a enough for me to stop the wedding. He was clearly communicating it. He just didn’t say “stop the wedding”. But he was!
She said she polishes her nails red to match the red flags 🚩 so I totally expected her to fall for his nonsense. She should’ve known he wasn’t ready for love to be blind and marriage when he went on and on about looks in the pods.
I literally had second hand embarrassment from her! He knew she was desperate and said no. Men know these things! Ladies it’s not a privilege to be married to a man unless he is a unicorn.
I think sometimes as ladies we have to do a better job of owning up to our part. Yes getting left at the altar is unacceptable. However I think trying to look at it from the perspective of what could I have done better to avoid this in the future? What in me is not healed that I attracted a man like this, or allowed myself to ignore the red flags. I am not blaming her but I don’t want her to continue in a cycle of failed relationships because she didn’t do the healing and work on her part because one thing that’s for certain: you cannot run from baggage and unhealed trauma. It will follow you until you deal with it. I did this myself in previous relationships where I would focus on wow that person was horrible and they did me so wrong and I would keep finding myself in bad dating relationships. Instead of being like wow that person did me dirty? Why did I continue to allow that? What father wounds do I have that are not healed, how can I improve my self esteem so that I don’t tolerate bad behavior for a year and half etc. I wish I did that sooner.
This is irrelevant because Clay knew upfront he didn’t want to be married at all and definitely not to AD. withholding sex wouldn’t have made a difference nor did it make AD believe he was actually into her.
@@WayfindinWanderlustIt would have made him move around much sooner and she never would’ve gotten jilted and heartbroken at the Altar. Withholding sex weeds out people with selfish and impure motives.
This girl dodged a bullet. She didn't see the red flag at first cause she was blinded by love. He was emotionally immature. She sees that now and hopefully has learned from this experience. Guys like this will have you stay with them, wasting your years with false dreams of getting married, and then leave you for another woman. Happened to a coworker of mine. The poor girl had 4 kids with the guy, helped put him through nursing school, he took all her pay checks, and bought a house under his name from the money her grandparents left her with false dreams of getting married. Then dude kicked her out of the house, wanted his two sons to stay with him and their two daughters to go with her with no place to go, and moved in the girl he cheated on her with who had kids with someone else. Then proceeds to make it seem like it was her fault the relationship ended. I never knew scum like that really existed. I felt sooo bad for her. All three worked at the nursing home. She did housekeeping, he was a cna, and the homewreaker was a cna as well. He was "training" the homewreaker to take his place as a lead cna since he was going to be graduating from the LPN program.
That’s devastating to your friend! I really hate that happened and she’s left to endure the betrayal and loss of her inheritance. It won’t go or end well for Mister LPN at all
All of the switching up on you was your clue he wasn't ready. He's not the villain. She chose to be blind because she wanted marriage more than the truth in her face.
What you say about AD is true, but that doesn´t mean that Clay is not a villain. He´s a clout-chaser, that uses women for S*x and fame. He even dragged his own mother through numerous talkshows and podcasts to raise his reputation just to cheat on one Cornstar with another afterwards. He´s a liar and a cheater, just like his dad, who still, after abusing his son, is his secret role model. Yikes!
If he made it clear he didn't have to wait until the altar to make it plain. 🙄. He then made it his business to clear his image because perception is Soo important to him. I'm glad she said "she didn't want to be his mom" cuz that's all he could've offered at best
Aww hope you're doing okay, Salem ❤ My husband also had walking pneumonia at some point. Not fun. About Hailey, I was following her for awhile until I realized that she basically makes reels with anyone and everyone that will get her noticed. That makes me feel like she doesn't really stand for anything in particular, except likes.
So all this talk about AD and Clay sparked me to watch the show. Hadn't seen the show since season 2 I believe. But on the 1st episode...I instantly could pick up that, ummmmm....he may be a bit, let's say "fluid"....which explains their dramatic demise... And listening to her story give me vibes of a man or boy trying to convince himself. ..Kinda like that "Delivert" guy...
It’s crazy how she was attacked for falling for him… out of ALL of the other girls on LIB who were with aholes, and fell for the crap;AD was dragged. It’s disgusting she’s even saying here, she gave him an out plenty of time and he didn’t want it. The camera doesn’t tell the whole story. But also, y’all gotta check your biases. Like she can’t be hurt or shocked. Tf. A lot of it is colorism… actually most of it is. We have definitely seen THIS before, and it was from girls who didn’t get a “Yes” AND they weren’t the nicest people; yet still the attacks weren’t this bad. She’s a sweet girl, beautiful, bad, educated, well spoken. So what is the “she did this to herself, I don’t feel sorry for her, she knew what she was doing!” sentiments about? Jealousy, judgement and prejudice.
Bro……tell me I don’t want to get married AHEAD OF TIME. DONT mislead me with your imbalanced emotions and embarrass me in front of the WORLD. Clay thinks he was responsible for telling her at the alter he’s not ready.
And if the conversation kept coming up, she should have made the decision herself....Where's your woman's intuition? Baby, he was looking for a viral moment and got it. Just like a flaming guy...
I don't like the premise of the show. They encourage strangers to live together, which usually leads to a sexual relationship BEFORE they get married. Good sex causes your common sense to get cloudy most of the time. I would rather be embarrassed, than in a miserable marriage. Ppl like fairy tale endings, but I respect him for being honest, even if it was at the altar. Marriage is a covenant and should not be entered into lightly. This show cares nothing about the sanctity of marriage. They just wanted a good show
I agree with everything except I have no respect for that guy. Guy was being all cute with her when she was walking up the aile and smiling all the way till it was his turn to say "I do". No indication that there was something wrong. He could of went to her room and broke it off before she got ready. Then proceeds to make dumb excuses instead of a heart-felt apology. Then calls her 4 weeks later....like why. The guy has narcissistic behavior, and hopefully she stays away from him. I do agree that this show is a joke. Marriage is sacred and should be treated as such. This show seems to down play that. I don't even watch it 😂but for some reason a clip of him leaving her at the alter made me invested so I had to check out their story which led me to that show.😂
You can’t move forward with mixed signals! Either shit or get off the pot! Stop jeopardizing your emotional well being for people that are unstable and emotionally unavailable
Im glad she's so emotionally mature.
Emotionally mature wouldn’t have said, don’t “embarrass me in front of family”, that’s not the reason you walk or don’t walk down the aisle. Emotionally mature would have said let’s pause wedding so we don’t make a life long commitment that you’re not ready for. Neither one of them are mature and ready for marriage. He has been clearly telling her he’s not ready. She was just ignoring it .
@@2013LPN I understand your point. But we're not in agreement. From where I view it, she asked not to be embarrassed in front of her family BEFORE walking down the aisle. I think she was looking to know what to expect. Let's just end it now B4 we walk down the aisle instead of embarrassing me (her) in front of fam. I don't think that was an immature request. But to each his or her own.
she is a bit delusional by a certain point believing a guy who is so shifty
She was desperate, period. It baffles me how desperate a lot of women are to get married, not caring if the man they want to marry actually like them. It’s embarrassing! Being married to a man is not a privilege unless he is a unicorn.
Not for herself she’s letting herself waste time with a man telling her to wait a little longer and would definitely never do be up with her
Him saying “I’m just afraid to get married”, multiple times would have been a enough for me to stop the wedding. He was clearly communicating it. He just didn’t say “stop the wedding”. But he was!
EXACTLY!
She said she polishes her nails red to match the red flags 🚩 so I totally expected her to fall for his nonsense. She should’ve known he wasn’t ready for love to be blind and marriage when he went on and on about looks in the pods.
Agreed! A man serious about marriage doesn't have to be pressured or persuaded
@@user-gb2vk2ff8xNot at all! That’s the most intentional man a woman would ever come across, one that’s serious about marriage
She was desperate
she’s soo sweet. i wouldn’t have the heart to hurt her.
'if I see red flags, I just paint my nails red to match' that alone shows she was gonna get played like a fiddle lmfao
I adore her so much, she deserves real love
I like her voice i can listedto her voice all day long ❤❤❤
AD got played because she blindly followed Clay and ignored all the red flags.
She literally just said that’s not what happened…you slow or dumb?
Exactly
I literally had second hand embarrassment from her! He knew she was desperate and said no. Men know these things! Ladies it’s not a privilege to be married to a man unless he is a unicorn.
She went on a date with Matt after the show … she cooked
This is my first time seeing and hearing this woman and the one word that comes to mind is…YUM!
I think sometimes as ladies we have to do a better job of owning up to our part. Yes getting left at the altar is unacceptable. However I think trying to look at it from the perspective of what could I have done better to avoid this in the future? What in me is not healed that I attracted a man like this, or allowed myself to ignore the red flags. I am not blaming her but I don’t want her to continue in a cycle of failed relationships because she didn’t do the healing and work on her part because one thing that’s for certain: you cannot run from baggage and unhealed trauma. It will follow you until you deal with it.
I did this myself in previous relationships where I would focus on wow that person was horrible and they did me so wrong and I would keep finding myself in bad dating relationships. Instead of being like wow that person did me dirty? Why did I continue to allow that? What father wounds do I have that are not healed, how can I improve my self esteem so that I don’t tolerate bad behavior for a year and half etc. I wish I did that sooner.
Well said
@@nanretazaria9359 thank you 🙏🏾
This comment is GOLD‼️😮💨
The one thing I think AD could have tried differently was NOT let him park the car in the garage b4 signing the paperwork.
its all she has to offer. 😢The insecurities are REAL
That part
This is irrelevant because Clay knew upfront he didn’t want to be married at all and definitely not to AD. withholding sex wouldn’t have made a difference nor did it make AD believe he was actually into her.
@@WayfindinWanderlustat least you won’t get used
@@WayfindinWanderlustIt would have made him move around much sooner and she never would’ve gotten jilted and heartbroken at the Altar. Withholding sex weeds out people with selfish and impure motives.
that embarrassed me kills me every time I hear it
I think clay just wanted to be on tv. he will probably do temptation island next year. watch
He made it clear and you were still hoping something will change
Exactly.
Not really
This girl dodged a bullet. She didn't see the red flag at first cause she was blinded by love. He was emotionally immature. She sees that now and hopefully has learned from this experience. Guys like this will have you stay with them, wasting your years with false dreams of getting married, and then leave you for another woman. Happened to a coworker of mine. The poor girl had 4 kids with the guy, helped put him through nursing school, he took all her pay checks, and bought a house under his name from the money her grandparents left her with false dreams of getting married. Then dude kicked her out of the house, wanted his two sons to stay with him and their two daughters to go with her with no place to go, and moved in the girl he cheated on her with who had kids with someone else. Then proceeds to make it seem like it was her fault the relationship ended. I never knew scum like that really existed. I felt sooo bad for her. All three worked at the nursing home. She did housekeeping, he was a cna, and the homewreaker was a cna as well. He was "training" the homewreaker to take his place as a lead cna since he was going to be graduating from the LPN program.
That’s devastating to your friend! I really hate that happened and she’s left to endure the betrayal and loss of her inheritance. It won’t go or end well for Mister LPN at all
She didn't know...poor thing. Its okay. Yall let up off her. We dont know unless we were specifically in this situation.
She knew, she just ignored her own instincts
she’s so beautiful, mature and classy woman she deserves way better than that
AD is beautiful. He got exactly what he deserved he is now with the industry 🥜 rag 🫣
She shouldn’t have enabled him. The thing she’s missing is if she had any self esteem the first time he flaked on her would have been the last time.
All of the switching up on you was your clue he wasn't ready. He's not the villain. She chose to be blind because she wanted marriage more than the truth in her face.
Bingo!
when someone is desperate for something , they can see the red flags and ignore them
What you say about AD is true, but that doesn´t mean that Clay is not a villain. He´s a clout-chaser, that uses women for S*x and fame. He even dragged his own mother through numerous talkshows and podcasts to raise his reputation just to cheat on one Cornstar with another afterwards. He´s a liar and a cheater, just like his dad, who still, after abusing his son, is his secret role model. Yikes!
AD deserve better Never forgot women that you are the prize not the other way around🥴
Y’all acting like Clay is innocent lol
He told me he gonna try loving me. I disappeared like a ghost
AD is more feminine than that girl hes with, them tattoos, she exudes Masculine energy, but Clay is okay with that long as she light skin.
Most Def! The woman he’s with is a known 304 & unfortunately that appears to be his type‼️
Yes, he´s a colorist, a cheater and a liar, using women for s*x and fame.
If he made it clear he didn't have to wait until the altar to make it plain. 🙄. He then made it his business to clear his image because perception is Soo important to him. I'm glad she said "she didn't want to be his mom" cuz that's all he could've offered at best
Walk for you not stay for him.
Clay Clay is 🌈 like Shay Shay
I think the executive producers paid him to take a dive.
...and to drag her along to the altar, just for money and fame.
Has she gone on any other pods??
She literally said she would jump off a cliff for him in the show!
Aww hope you're doing okay, Salem ❤
My husband also had walking pneumonia at some point. Not fun.
About Hailey, I was following her for awhile until I realized that she basically makes reels with anyone and everyone that will get her noticed. That makes me feel like she doesn't really stand for anything in particular, except likes.
PourMinds had Clay on trying to gain goodwill with black women. ALL of the podcasts he’s been a part of have black, female target audiences.
So all this talk about AD and Clay sparked me to watch the show. Hadn't seen the show since season 2 I believe. But on the 1st episode...I instantly could pick up that, ummmmm....he may be a bit, let's say "fluid"....which explains their dramatic demise...
And listening to her story give me vibes of a man or boy trying to convince himself. ..Kinda like that "Delivert" guy...
It’s crazy how she was attacked for falling for him… out of ALL of the other girls on LIB who were with aholes, and fell for the crap;AD was dragged. It’s disgusting she’s even saying here, she gave him an out plenty of time and he didn’t want it.
The camera doesn’t tell the whole story. But also, y’all gotta check your biases.
Like she can’t be hurt or shocked. Tf.
A lot of it is colorism… actually most of it is.
We have definitely seen THIS before, and it was from girls who didn’t get a “Yes” AND they weren’t the nicest people; yet still the attacks weren’t this bad.
She’s a sweet girl, beautiful, bad, educated, well spoken. So what is the “she did this to herself, I don’t feel sorry for her, she knew what she was doing!” sentiments about?
Jealousy, judgement and prejudice.
Thank you!!
Thats the orange flags but really red. When he has to keep telling you ill change.....
Not capable
You have to see the inability and walk away cause YOU Deserve better not cause he wants to try.
Domestic violence isn't taken seriously in America, especially if the victim is a black woman.
Bro……tell me I don’t want to get married AHEAD OF TIME. DONT mislead me with your imbalanced emotions and embarrass me in front of the WORLD. Clay thinks he was responsible for telling her at the alter he’s not ready.
They both got the 'fame' they wanted now
And if the conversation kept coming up, she should have made the decision herself....Where's your woman's intuition? Baby, he was looking for a viral moment and got it. Just like a flaming guy...
I don't like the premise of the show. They encourage strangers to live together, which usually leads to a sexual relationship BEFORE they get married. Good sex causes your common sense to get cloudy most of the time. I would rather be embarrassed, than in a miserable marriage. Ppl like fairy tale endings, but I respect him for being honest, even if it was at the altar. Marriage is a covenant and should not be entered into lightly. This show cares nothing about the sanctity of marriage. They just wanted a good show
I agree with everything except I have no respect for that guy. Guy was being all cute with her when she was walking up the aile and smiling all the way till it was his turn to say "I do". No indication that there was something wrong. He could of went to her room and broke it off before she got ready. Then proceeds to make dumb excuses instead of a heart-felt apology. Then calls her 4 weeks later....like why. The guy has narcissistic behavior, and hopefully she stays away from him. I do agree that this show is a joke. Marriage is sacred and should be treated as such. This show seems to down play that. I don't even watch it 😂but for some reason a clip of him leaving her at the alter made me invested so I had to check out their story which led me to that show.😂
Then what did he do after ALL of that ???
Drizzle Drizzle
He is now with a really different type of woman
Girl stop lying on these podcasts🤣
You can’t move forward with mixed signals! Either shit or get off the pot! Stop jeopardizing your emotional well being for people that are unstable and emotionally unavailable
She's right, she's a victim.
But he did exactly what you told him not to do. Men can’t be trusted gurl. Sorry you had to find out like this.
Men or that man.... Or people?